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season 2 episode 13 delta god of war
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the boys fight technical difficulties to talk sons of Sparta and if hunt could have legs at a tabletop game
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Intro
Introduction to 'Waiting for Other Players' and Olympic Theme
00:00:37
johncat
Two reeks in a row once again. This is Waiting for Other Players, a Hunt Showdown podcast.
00:00:45
Clutch Commander
you
00:00:46
johncat
Coming at you live from the Cat House, this is John Cat. And this is Olympic season, goddammit. So we're going to bring in our gold medal. I'm not even going say
Gold Medal Host Introduction and Olympic Theme Extension
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johncat
co-host. The guy's goddamned near the host. Our gold medal host.
00:01:00
johncat
We're just going to have him wait in the wings for minute while we play the national anthem.
00:01:04
johncat
Play the national anthem. Why come you never play the at national anthem?
00:01:17
johncat
your goddamn hand over your heart. Take your hat off.
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johncat
You. There. Take your goddamn hat off.
Weather Challenges and Technical Difficulties
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johncat
The Quachimando himself, the Duke of Five Stars, the yeah One Man Kung Fu SWAT team, Hebrew with Attitude, ah Harrison. Harrison, how are you doing on this blustery evening?
00:01:46
Clutch Commander
I'm doing good. Doing good. It's finally a little warm.
00:01:48
johncat
Okay, good to hear. I know. ah The weather does not know what the fuck it wants to do.
00:01:56
Clutch Commander
now and it's really fucking my sinuses.
00:02:00
johncat
Yeah, my ah my allergies are definitely going for a spin. I was out there this morning. ah i put the final touch. Well, some of the final touches on the cart. I just have to put few odds and ends on, but by the end of the week, it'll be good to go.
00:02:15
johncat
And ah every time I'd start to fuck with it, it would look like it was getting ready to start raining. And then I'd stop, and then the sun would come out, and then I'd start fucking with it and it would look like it was going to start raining.
00:02:26
Clutch Commander
It's crazy.
00:02:27
johncat
It was the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
Gaming Discussions: Gundam Tournament & God of War
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johncat
But yeah, in honor of Olympic season, we're just going to launch right into segment one. USA! USA! Harrison, have been getting into this week?
00:02:46
Clutch Commander
This week, doing some local regional tournament, I guess, for Gundam, and um debating about whether or not I want to buy this new Sparta game.
00:02:59
johncat
The God of War game?
00:03:01
Clutch Commander
Yeah, that one.
00:03:04
johncat
Yeah, it does look... I hear people bashing it, but they're all bashing it for like canonical reasons. When realistically, I'm looking at it I'm like, fucking gameplay-wise, it looks pretty fun.
00:03:15
Clutch Commander
Yeah, at this point, it's kind of its own thing, and Yeah.
00:03:24
johncat
No, i think that I think the gameplay looks great. I like that they've gone... 2D but it still kind of has that kinetic flowing combat that the regular that like these past couple God of Wars have had and um I like that they got back the original Kratos actor to do the voiceover in this one since it's supposed to be him telling a story to Calliope ah that would make more sense than to have new Kratos talking to his daughter because I'm like it's two different it's two different eras of Kratos like you need the old the old ah the old school guy
00:03:37
Clutch Commander
yeah
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Clutch Commander
Yeah.
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Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:04:02
johncat
But yeah, no, it yeah i I second that. It does look good as shit.
00:04:07
Clutch Commander
Yeah. I'm thinking about it. haven't, not pulling the trigger yet, but definitely thinking about it.
God of War Storyline and Classic Narratives
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johncat
Yeah, I think that'll be a weekend decision for me as well. um I'm still on the fence about whether or not I want to pre-order Resident Evil.
00:04:23
Clutch Commander
Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:24
johncat
I really want to, at the same time, I'm kind of like... I'm kind of watching my money at the same time. I am kind of just kind of going buck wild at the moment. But I, yeah, yeah no, god God of War, Sons of Sparta does look surprisingly good.
00:04:42
Clutch Commander
yeah and i and i saw people giving it shit and i was like the game looks good i don't know i didn't realize they were giving it shit because the story doesn't make sense and i'm like
00:04:52
johncat
It's not that it doesn't make sense. It's just that like. It would be like if we got a new hope and then so that an Empire Strikes Back was just exactly like a retread of a new hope.
00:05:04
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:05:05
johncat
Like, we've already heard the story of Kratos and his brother.
00:05:10
Clutch Commander
yeah
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johncat
Like, that was... like It's like an older... It's like an old thing. I doubt they're going to touch on the tattoo because that's where Kratos gets his tattoo. His brother... His brother had a birthmark that was in the same spot.
00:05:22
johncat
And then, at one point, Ares and... somebody else comes along because there's a prophecy of a man with a red mark like that will be the one to bring down Zeus they take Kratos' his brother by mistake because he has the mark on him not thinking into the future that Kratos is going to get that mark tattooed on him and Kratos will be the man with the red mark um so like we kind of we know these things
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Clutch Commander
Yeah. Yeah.
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Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:05:53
johncat
But, I mean, you're going to give me a story of Kratos and his brother as a child. Like, awful. all Like, it doesn't seem like it's as dark as a god of war. Like, it it goes back to last week. This seems like a Night of the Seven Kingdoms.
00:06:09
johncat
It's not as dark as the rest of the franchise. But it seems fucking bubbly and fun enough that it could still, like, maintain your attention And still treat the source material like good.
00:06:24
Clutch Commander
yeah
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johncat
Like I think if they made it, um I don't know, like chibi looking, it would, I don't know. I think what we got, yeah.
00:06:33
Clutch Commander
If it had a different art style, it wouldn't fit, but they're not they're not going to give it a and they're not going to give the wrong art style. They at least know that.
00:06:42
johncat
No. no And the combat, which is 90% of the God of War franchise, looks on point for a 2D game.
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Clutch Commander
Yeah, it looks very Castlevania Metroid-ish.
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johncat
Yeah. Yeah. And you have the spear, but then I've also seen in the trailer, you get other weapons, so that's very God of War.
00:07:02
johncat
I've also heard that like they've done this and they're re they're they're giving a 4K remaster to ah Legacy of Kane Defiance, which was like the last game in the franchise where they split the narrative between Raziel and Kane.
4K Remaster of Legacy of Kain Defiance
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Clutch Commander
OK. OK.
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johncat
ah They have a 4K remaster coming out of that sometime over the summer. They're basically doing the same thing with that. They're taking a 2D version like a 2d game will come with it. It's called like, um, acceptance or some shit. I don't know if you, if you look it up on any marketplace, it says that defiance will come with this other game. And the other game is basically a 2d version where you split the, you split the narrative between either Kane or Razio. It's just 2d combat and you're picking up weapons as you go.
00:07:53
johncat
yeah they If this is the way we're going to be going for the next year and we get some games that are like this, I'll fuck it. I'll be all in. i love a good 2D beat-em-up.
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Clutch Commander
Yeah, it seems like I'd say ever since Hades, 2D's coming back.
00:08:08
johncat
Yeah.
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Clutch Commander
hello You know, between Hades and a lot of the indie games are really showing that 2D wasn't at its peak yet.
00:08:20
johncat
Or it wasn't done. Like, I feel like the two, like we jumped to 3d sometime, like towards the end of super Nintendo and the PlayStation, which is fine.
00:08:22
Clutch Commander
Yeah. Mm
00:08:32
johncat
It's progressive. That's way shit goes. But like every once while you would get ah like a good 2d game. And you're like, why have you guys abandoned this like style?
00:08:43
johncat
So I think now developers are like older people that grew up playing those 2d games that are just going back.
00:08:51
johncat
and just, you picking up where they left off.
00:08:51
Clutch Commander
yeah
00:08:53
johncat
Like, there's still meat on that bone.
00:08:56
Clutch Commander
and well it's like everything else you know whatever you know that's like why all this like kind of future star trek stuff is coming out because all the nerds who watch star trek were like i want to make that happen and now they can make it happen so they're they're doing it
00:09:14
johncat
yeah Yeah, but then you get that ah you get that other side of the coin where you get the Elon Musks where you're like, oh no, he's got enough money to actually pull this off.
00:09:26
johncat
Like this this fucking dingus is populating his own...
00:09:28
Clutch Commander
you're You're breaking up on me, man.
00:09:31
johncat
I'm breaking up. Can you hear me now?
00:09:35
johncat
I'm still coming through on the WAV file, so it might be something on your end.
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johncat
and baby now
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Clutch Commander
Are you back?
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Clutch Commander
Are you back from half speed?
00:09:45
johncat
Yeah, it bumped me off. Let me reconnect and try again.
Hunt Showdown Gameplay & Technical Issues
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johncat
Can you hear me now?
00:09:52
johncat
Am I still lagging? Okay, well, I think it just started us from the beginning. So, yeah. ah This is Waiting for Other Players, a Hunt Showdown podcast. We've got to rush through everything we just said record all over again.
00:10:06
johncat
This is John Keck coming at you live from the Cat House. ah We're going to bring in our gold medalist, our partner in crime, Harrison.
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johncat
Harrison, how are doing this afternoon?
00:10:18
Clutch Commander
I'm good. How are you?
00:10:21
johncat
ah Flustered now. I was relaxing in his leather chair. We got about 15 minutes into this podcast and the fucking thing erased it and then bumped me off.
00:10:29
Clutch Commander
Nice.
00:10:32
johncat
um
00:10:32
Clutch Commander
So it has it has your time starting back at zero.
00:10:35
johncat
Yeah.
00:10:36
Clutch Commander
Oh, it has me 11 minutes in. So this will be an interesting episode.
00:10:38
johncat
Well, we're just gonna we're go to let it fly because when we end the call... It will it'll still do both. So we'll see what happens.
00:10:50
johncat
um
00:10:50
Clutch Commander
Okay.
00:10:51
johncat
if this If this syncs up nicely, it syncs up nicely.
00:10:56
Clutch Commander
Alrighty. Yeah.
00:10:57
johncat
We're going to wait and see what happens. But ah let's get out of segment one. We'll get into segment two. keep the change, you I don't know about you, but I've been playing a lot of Hunt this week.
00:11:10
Clutch Commander
yeah Yeah, we picked it up again.
00:11:13
johncat
I'm breaking up again.
00:11:14
Clutch Commander
No, we picked it up again.
00:11:16
johncat
Oh God, don't fucking do that to me. I can't start a third, a third go around and rush through the opening. Uh, we picked it up again, but also today, ah my wife woke me up early because she's out there fucking stomping around and I got up, made a cup of coffee. And before I started to work on the hot dog cart, I played a bunch of, ah solo games.
00:11:42
Clutch Commander
Okay.
00:11:42
johncat
So I've been playing Bounty Clash like a motherfucker.
00:11:47
Clutch Commander
Okay. How's that going for you?
00:11:49
johncat
Pretty good.
00:11:51
Clutch Commander
Oh, as solo too.
00:11:53
johncat
As a solo, Bounty Clash a solo, pretty good. But my game's glitched at the moment.
00:11:56
Clutch Commander
Okay.
00:12:00
johncat
I need Mosin damage.
00:12:00
Clutch Commander
Okay.
00:12:03
johncat
And I'm stalled out at 956 out of It will not go any further.
00:12:09
Clutch Commander
okay
00:12:10
johncat
So now I've started to work on compact ammo damage.
00:12:14
Clutch Commander
OK.
00:12:15
johncat
And I also need the Ranger, so I've kind of been like doing both. Fucking... One of the last games i I played before we got on here... We're in Lower DeSalle with the Saloon.
00:12:31
johncat
And I'm coming in from... ah From the side, I spawn in. I hear people coming in from the rest of the rest of the points on the compass.
00:12:43
johncat
And I'm headed towards the boss lair, and I can hear a guy to my right. And I'm coming up the part next to the saloon where the ladder goes up, and you can get on the rooftops next to the boss lair.
00:12:56
johncat
So before I can get to the ladder, I'm taking lead from the right. So I cut around to the left to that storefront where there's no front to the store.
00:13:04
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:13:05
johncat
Then I'm taking lead from the left because there's a guy in the storefront. So then I cut back around.
00:13:09
Clutch Commander
Of course there is.
00:13:11
johncat
Yeah. So then I cut back around because I'm like, the guy on the right is clearly like in the woods. Maybe I can cut away. Now, now he's pushing me a little bit. So now I'm catching more lead from the right. And then I go up the ladder and I'm catching lead from the left. So I dropped down the ladder and I start going like, well, I'm a push the guy to the left because he's fucking hit me with the veterinary and I'm getting tired of it.
00:13:32
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
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johncat
I hang left, and before I know it, I'm getting dunked on by the guy in the goddamn... in the saloon. So it was... it was a real fucking comedy of errors, but... ah it was... i I think
Tabletop Gaming Experiences and Anecdotes
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johncat
I've played... i don't want to say I've played a lot today. Like, a lot of games, because, you know, sometimes you play for a while, but, like, waiting to spawn in eats up a chunk of your time. But, like, I played enough today to where...
00:14:02
johncat
think I think I had a pretty decent time with Bounty Clash. The maps were all full.
00:14:09
johncat
But ah that thing with the Mosin just fucking sucked the wind right out of my fucking sails.
00:14:15
johncat
I mean, at the moment, I have two weeks worth a shit to do And now I can't because this thing will not ah progress.
00:14:26
johncat
So, yeah, we got to wait and see what happens. um I mean, we lost them all, but did you at least have ah a little a little bit of a good time the other day when we fucking stumbled back in?
00:14:37
Clutch Commander
To hunt? Yeah. i always have fun on hunt.
00:14:41
johncat
Yeah, well, we've our schedules have been conflicting lately, so we kind of haven't getting into it, but I was making sure it was still ah living up to the memory.
00:14:42
Clutch Commander
aru
00:14:47
Clutch Commander
yeah
00:14:53
Clutch Commander
yeah no i i always have fun playing hunt
00:15:02
johncat
On that, let's go straight into segment three before I get fucking bumped off again. Okay, regional fucking Gundam tournament.
00:15:22
johncat
How pumped are you to win? How many people do you think are actually going to be there? And how quiet is this ride going to be if somebody else in the car wins instead of you?
00:15:36
Clutch Commander
it can be up to 32 people. The first one we went to had 29.
00:15:45
Clutch Commander
And I came in fourth from last.
00:15:49
Clutch Commander
the The deck I had just wasn't... Wasn't matching up with what needed to happen... In order to win.
00:15:57
johncat
Yeah, but you've been training like fucking Van Damme and Kickboxer lately. You've been going to other gyms. You've been me you've been mixing it up with locals.
00:16:06
Clutch Commander
have been. But after the way that one went... I'm changing decks... To a different different style. And I'm hoping...
00:16:18
Clutch Commander
Because I've been playing online with it and I've been doing really good. I'm hoping.
00:16:25
Clutch Commander
That. um I can do significantly better.
00:16:30
Clutch Commander
So.
00:16:31
johncat
I mean, yeah. that me but everybody i mean, right we we played Batman tabletop for a long time, and I lost every tournament.
00:16:35
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:16:40
johncat
we were out there was one There's two things for sure in life. Three things. There's God, taxes, and I will end up last in every fucking Batman tournament we ever play.
00:16:50
Clutch Commander
Yeah, but you pushed Gordon off the roof.
00:16:53
johncat
Uh, well, yes. But to say, like but like I'm saying, like, I lose. But like, I always go in with the hope that I'm like, I'm going to do just a scotch better.
00:17:03
Clutch Commander
Yeah, that's really... At the end of the day, that's what I'm hoping. That I will do better.
00:17:09
johncat
Yeah.
00:17:10
Clutch Commander
I would like...
00:17:10
johncat
Pushing Commissioner Gordon off that roof is still the highlight of my life. It was the highlight of that trip.
00:17:16
Clutch Commander
Oh, yeah, because they're over there, Power... power playing shit and being assholes and then you're just like I do this and he's you're like he's like I get a reaction and the guy's like no the fuck you don't
00:17:21
johncat
Yeah. hu
00:17:26
johncat
Yeah. yeah You don't have a Bat Cape?
00:17:30
Clutch Commander
yep
00:17:30
johncat
the ah We played the Batman miniature game by Night Models for a while. and ah it was The version we played was very bare bones. You got a card. You got a squad of guys. You can only have ah a base amount of points to allocate to your to your squad. So like your size depended on your points.
00:17:48
johncat
I took... ah For this tournament, I took my Lex Luthor, and it's Lex, in the mech suit, with four other mechs, and I had just enough money for like three Goombas, three like Italian mob-looking guys, and i gave... think Lex could fly. I gave him all miscellaneous shit, but I was playing this dickhead that was a local, and he was running um Commissioner Gordon and all of the SWAT team guys, and
00:18:19
johncat
You get points every round if you down an opponent, arrest an opponent, get an opponent off the board. But there's also smaller objectives like Gordon can take the bat signal. And for every round the bat signal stays on, he gets points.
00:18:36
johncat
So Commissioner Gordon goes up on a roof, clicks on the bat signal. Lex Luthor flies up to the roof. It descends into 1992 Royal Rumble territory.
00:18:49
johncat
And Lex Luthor just straight up shoves this motherfucker off a roof. To which I get to watch this local guy stutter and stammer and sweat as he's like, so I don't get to do anything.
00:19:00
johncat
They're like, no, he's like, I don't get a reaction at all. He just pushed me off the roof. They're like, yeah, that's what happens when you stand next to the edge of the roof. And it we ended up getting humiliated that whole tournament. I don't think any of us won.
00:19:15
Clutch Commander
I don't, we did not do good that tournament.
00:19:17
johncat
No, but it was definitely something to stand there and see the local guys like, oh,
00:19:25
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:19:25
johncat
shit. ah But yeah, no, still came in last place, but I did a scotch better than I did the time of before.
00:19:34
Clutch Commander
Yep.
00:19:35
johncat
And I think if you could do that in your Gundam tournament, I have faith that you're going to surprise people at this thing.
00:19:42
Clutch Commander
I'm hoping.
00:19:44
johncat
ah That being said, if anybody in the car other than you wins and starts to run their mouth, they really need to just like, you need to make them Uber home. Like, don't let them in the car. sure
00:19:56
Clutch Commander
No, i doubt it'll be like that.
00:20:00
johncat
Dumber things have happened.
00:20:02
Clutch Commander
True.
00:20:04
johncat
Um... Do you think this game has longevity or do you think this is just a flash in the pit? Like a lot of these games we fall in love with. um I mean, even hunt to some extent, but like hunt Batman miniatures, like some card games, they usually have like kind of like a limited shelf life.
00:20:22
johncat
ah Do you think this Gundam card game is going to have a smaller shelf life or do you think it has legs to go for a year or two?
00:20:30
Clutch Commander
Well, we're approaching year two. It's a Bandai game, so that means...
00:20:36
johncat
it's got cash behind it
00:20:37
Clutch Commander
Yeah, and it's selling out well enough currently. So I would assume, but i you know it's like anything else in this world. You never know what the fuck's going to happen. You never know who's going to... Corporate Bandai, who's going to take charge of it and go...
00:20:57
Clutch Commander
Well, this idea is dumb and you're stupid for liking it. You know what I mean?
00:21:01
johncat
yeah this idea sucks and you probably should have put your money elsewhere
00:21:08
johncat
Um, I don't, I mean, a lot of these games, Bloodborne, Dark Souls, a lot of games wind up with like a card version. I wonder if they could do something like that for Hunt, or if it's like too resource restricted that a card game wouldn't, it wouldn't translate to any kind of card or table.
Concept of 'Hunt Showdown' as a Tabletop Game
00:21:25
johncat
Tabletop game, I think would be hard. Like if you try to do a D&D kind of campaign,
00:21:30
Clutch Commander
I think a tabletop would be easier than say like a card game.
00:21:34
johncat
I don't know, because it's it's three you know three to four monsters. ah It's relatively like limited in scope to these little towns.
00:21:48
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:21:50
johncat
So like unless you start playing other hunters as NPCs, i don't I just feel like as far as a tabletop thing goes, I don't think it has legs. But maybe like if you did do card game and your resources became the cards, ammo became cards, like you had a card frame. Like, I think you might be able to swing it as some kind of a card game.
00:22:17
Clutch Commander
I think a card game is probably the easiest thing to swing it to.
00:22:22
johncat
Like, i I don't think a D&D campaign, um or like I say D&D, like an old person would call video games Nintendo.
00:22:31
Clutch Commander
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:32
johncat
I think an RPG setting could work. It's a very interesting ah setting. That being said, a lot of people don't give a shit about the lore. like It's unfortunate because it's great. The lore is fantastic, but a lot of people have never even like dabbled.
00:22:50
johncat
But at the same time, a lot of people just want to get in there and do PvP. PvP or they want to fight the boss.
00:22:55
Clutch Commander
Hey.
00:22:57
johncat
So I don't think an RPG would really lend itself to that because you'd be itching the whole time to run into other people. I don't think you could get away with a miniature. Like a skirmish game.
00:23:12
johncat
See even that sounds like. That's doable.
00:23:16
johncat
like ah like a war Like how they do the Warhammer skirmish. Or like old school Batman. Miniatures.
00:23:22
johncat
You pick three hunters. They pick three hunters. They each have their different loadouts. And prospects. You set it in one town. You get five rounds.
00:23:33
johncat
Like, i I think even that could be doable. It would be very small scale. I mean, we're talking, we're talking fucking stripped down.
00:23:38
Clutch Commander
yeah.
00:23:43
johncat
But I think it's, I think a fucking skirmish game could come out of Hunt.
00:23:48
Clutch Commander
You could have a skirmish team come out of Hunt. You could also have... um Like... Not a werewolf.
00:23:58
Clutch Commander
What's the... um The betrayal on
00:24:02
johncat
God, I really thought you were going to say fucking secret Hitler and I was going to end the call right now.
00:24:08
Clutch Commander
Betrayal at Hill House. You could do something like that.
00:24:11
johncat
Yeah. Anything that's confined and um low numbers.
00:24:19
Clutch Commander
Yes.
00:24:21
johncat
like those are the You can't have it be like...
00:24:26
johncat
I mean, we keep saying it because's just because it's the only comp I have. Like, Batman... or Or even the Marvel ah the marvel Crisis game. If you play your points right, you could easily just overwhelm the board with with models, cheap models.
00:24:44
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:24:46
johncat
you shouldn't if If this was a thing, you shouldn't be able to do that. It should be a cap of ah teams of three. That's it. You pick three hunters every hunt. Like it would have to be literally like the video game. You have three hunters. Each hunter has the same health pool.
00:25:03
johncat
ah You have a random you have a random maybe card deck of ah perks. And then like depending on some other series of roles and math that I don't know, you get to draw three cards from the deck.
00:25:20
johncat
And those are your fucking traits
00:25:23
johncat
So then you can allocat you can allocate them to whoever you want. You can allocate like fanning fanning to the the redneck. Redneck's daughter would get levering.
00:25:34
johncat
Grandpappy would get like resilience.
00:25:37
johncat
And then you just go round by round.
00:25:40
Clutch Commander
Yeah, you could definitely do something like that.
00:25:43
johncat
right. Trademark, trademark, trademark. Don't nobody take it. Crytek, give me a call. I'm going to put you under the cat's dog's umbrella just for legal purposes, but um you can get in touch with us.
00:25:56
johncat
ah We're willing to talk talk business. Harrison, we split everything 50-50, and I get 20, Harrison gets 30, because we've got to get him out of that apartment. but um
00:26:08
Clutch Commander
What you like my apartment.
00:26:10
johncat
Fine. Harrison gets 30 just because got to pay off that new car.
00:26:14
johncat
Yeah, I had never thought of it before, but I i think you really could. Man, my mind is blown. It's a good thing the cat's right behind me. Otherwise, my mind would be blown out the back of my head.
00:26:27
johncat
oh man. Are you threatening me? Oh, Jesus Christ.
Branded Content in Games: Originality vs Merchandising
00:26:32
johncat
um We're going to be closing down here in a minute. We're getting kind of long in the tooth.
00:26:37
johncat
Um... Is there any... a lot of people bitch... and ah Again, this is people bitching and moaning... About... Like the Scream franchise slipping into Hunt last year.
00:26:51
johncat
Post Malone slipping into Hunt. They don't want any kind of like branded materials in their Hunt content. Because they want Hunt to stay a Hunt product.
00:26:56
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:26:59
johncat
Not to become a Fortnite light. Um... I know we've done this before, but do you think there there could be a place where we get some some branded skins now that we've we've kind of blown the back out of this Post Malone problem? we have three three fucking skins with this guy?
00:27:19
johncat
like i don't know. I was watching Next Gen, and I'd love a Worf skin.
00:27:25
Clutch Commander
yeah So there's skin where we yeah there's some skins where I would be like, no, I'm okay with this.
00:27:26
johncat
I'd love i had love a Bomb Lance that looks like a Batleth. That's all I'm saying.
00:27:35
Clutch Commander
And there's some where it's like, this is a bit much. Bomblands Bat'leth, I would love.
00:27:39
johncat
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:41
Clutch Commander
So I will say this about the Star Trek Academy. They have this big Klingon episode where he's given the weapon of a warrior.
00:27:50
johncat
Yeah.
00:27:52
Clutch Commander
And I was like, Bat'leth time. Nope, it's a crossbow. Or it's a bow and arrow. And I was like, that's gay. i was like, this was Batleth time.
00:28:04
johncat
Yeah, or like they even have like they have like the bat lift. Then they even have like the weird sword that's got like the ah it's got like the thing on the hilt where you're like, what is this? Like every everything is a blade, but then it's got several other blades like it was designed by a child.
00:28:21
Clutch Commander
Yes.
00:28:22
johncat
Like, ah ah i don't know. I'm kind of bothered by that, thinking that Klingons would even have bows and arrows.
00:28:31
Clutch Commander
mean, they're hunters. I could see them having it, but...
00:28:34
johncat
No, they're warriors.
00:28:38
johncat
I would imagine them to be axes and swords, and then if they have to shoot anything from a distance, they would just phaser your ass.
00:28:46
Clutch Commander
I could see that. But I'm also not against them having bow and arrow.
00:28:51
johncat
yeah
00:28:52
Clutch Commander
Okay.
00:28:53
johncat
I think the most Klingon thing I've seen ever was Predator Badlands. Like the first 15 minutes of predator Badlands is the most Klingon ass shit I've ever seen in my life.
00:29:07
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:29:09
johncat
like i still I leaned over to my wife when we saw that thing in theaters, and for those that haven't seen Predator Badlands, the opening sequence of the movie is our our predator our hero Predator training, and at one point he pulls this sword out, and it's like a collapsible fucking lightsaber, and I remember turning to my wife, and I said, first off...
00:29:32
johncat
This is some Klingon shit where it's brother versus brother in a blood match. And secondly, if he pulled that thing out of his back pocket and it fucking turned into a switchblade Batleth, I would come right here in the movie theater.
00:29:46
johncat
Like it's everything I've ever wanted in a Star Trek movie is to be like, why can't I get a Star Trek movie that takes place on Klingon? Or fucking I can get a Star Trek movie that takes place on the side of the Romulans?
00:30:01
Clutch Commander
That'd be cool.
00:30:03
johncat
we've We've only ever seen the Federation, which is fine because they don't really play the Federation as like good guys. They they often show that the rest of the galaxy is like, no, you guys are shitbags.
00:30:17
Clutch Commander
I mean, they are, though.
00:30:18
johncat
But I. Yeah, yeah. and And they don't they don't hide it. But I'd also really like to see at one point like Klingons on their planet happy.
00:30:31
johncat
And then just a Federation ship comes kicking up and they're like, well, we were fighting each other, but maybe we should go beat these white faces up for a minute and then have it, to have it proceed from there of being like, who are these encroaching foreigners that are so kicking up shit, telling us that we're doing wrong when we were fine without them.
00:30:54
Clutch Commander
That would be cool as shit.
00:30:56
johncat
yeah, I mean, the bird of prey is already the coolest ship ever designed. So, i mean, give me that, that, that, don't know. We'll save that for our star Trek podcast.
00:31:09
johncat
Being them up softly.
00:31:12
johncat
Um, we're closing it down here. It's 22 minutes in. It's almost time for dinner. ah Harrison, heading out the door, we've kind of been scattershot this whole episode, but I like that we've discovered that ah Hunt Showdown could become a pretty sweet little skirmish game.
00:31:33
johncat
I'm
00:31:34
johncat
trying to think of a final question for you here. ah Besides Ghost of Sparta, is there anything else kicking around that you've seen that you're interested in?
Upcoming Games and Gaming Nostalgia
00:31:46
Clutch Commander
There's a couple extraction-like games that are coming out that I'm interested to see um how they play, but Nothing where I'm like, oh man, let's get this or, you know, anything like that.
00:32:03
johncat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah not Nothing's really fucking moving moving the needle.
00:32:09
johncat
Yeah, I think at the moment the only thing's really fucking pull pulling on my crank is um I Resident Evil 8 because I'm a Resident Evil guy or 9.
00:32:21
johncat
This is 9. 9 because Village was 8.
00:32:23
Clutch Commander
I think nine. Nine.
00:32:28
johncat
9, 9. I don't have that on the soundboard.
00:32:35
johncat
But, yeah, it's that. And for some reason, that Star Wars Racer looks really fucking good.
00:32:43
Clutch Commander
Yeah, well, I'm excited to see if they actually remake um Old Republic.
00:32:49
johncat
don't know. Well, I mean, maybe they'll remake it, but this looks like it's a whole new. Like this would be the third game in that franchise.
00:32:58
Clutch Commander
and Yeah, well, there were talks of them doing it and then not and then again talks.
00:33:04
johncat
Yeah.
00:33:04
Clutch Commander
So I don't.
00:33:06
johncat
If they're smart, they come out with this new one, and then right before this new one, they dump a 4K remaster of the original.
00:33:15
johncat
Because the original was just like... The second one was whatever. i I'm not one of these guys that wants to see just armies of Sith. I like the idea that they're such cocksuckers that only two of them can ever survive at a time.
00:33:30
Clutch Commander
Well, that's um after this. This is no armies.
00:33:33
johncat
It's after... Yeah, but I... Like, the the armies of... Like, Inquisitors are one thing. Because they're not full-fledged Jedi. They're kind of trained, like, piecemeal. They're only they're only taught enough...
00:33:48
johncat
But like to have just that there's just armies of these evil, seething fucking people that are all bleeding their kyber crystals and fucking slowly just marching across the galaxy. And I'm like, dude, they would be they would be killing each other so much faster they would be killing Jedi because they're such they're just shut shitheads.
00:34:11
johncat
They can't deal with the fact that they have take orders from somebody. because each one wants to be more powerful than the next one. So it would just descend into, it would literally be Star Wars with the plot Highlander.
00:34:22
johncat
Well,
00:34:23
Clutch Commander
Um, do you want me to tell you a little secret?
00:34:26
johncat
I mean, that's, that's kind of where it ends up.
00:34:29
Clutch Commander
Very much where it ends up.
00:34:31
johncat
Yeah. I just, it the, the, that that, that kind of threw me out when the second one came up, came out, the um, I think it's called like the age of the Sith or whatever.
00:34:41
johncat
The second Knights of the Old Republic when like the whole every combat in that game was like you versus nine people with lightsabers, red lightsabers.
00:34:52
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:34:53
johncat
And i was like, come you're taking the majesty out of this, fellas.
00:34:56
Clutch Commander
And I liked in the first one where you didn't get a lightsaber until like near the end.
00:35:01
johncat
Yeah, you had the vibe. You had the vibr blades. If you even felt like fucking using it. like You didn't have to use the vibroblade.
00:35:12
johncat
You could totally get away with just being like, no, I'm a blaster guy.
00:35:17
Clutch Commander
No, I really liked, really liked
00:35:18
johncat
hoki Hokey religion is no good you know when you've got a good blaster on your hip.
00:35:24
Clutch Commander
I was
00:35:27
Clutch Commander
very happy with it, and it was one of the few games that I 100%ed. um That, and there was the, was it Jade Empire or something, where it was the Kung Fu one?
00:35:40
johncat
Yeah, does but it it was the same thing. It was the same company, but it was like Feudal Japan.
00:35:42
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:35:46
Clutch Commander
Those were the two games that I 100% because I was like, these games are amazing. I love them.
00:35:51
johncat
yeah Yeah. Jade Empire even had a cool even had like a cooler um like combat mechanic to it. like It wasn't exactly turn-based. It had some fucking bopping and weaving going on in there.
00:36:08
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:36:12
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:36:12
johncat
But,
Episode Conclusion and Farewell
00:36:13
johncat
yeah. ah Let me thank our legendary hunters, since I didn't do it last week.
00:36:21
johncat
Let me pull up the list. Um...
00:36:26
johncat
Gonna start off with the Tick Hunt. Ponytail Palm, Alex Olsen, Michael Douglas Jones, Mitchell Gertz, Rat329. All the guys over at HuntBanishExtract. You guys are killing me with HuntBanishExtract after hours or whatever the fuck you guys are gonna call it.
00:36:45
johncat
ah Rexnoir, Rakta, C.D.Low, that cutest goddamn baby I've ever seen. Malcolm Glenn, a son of a bitch post Malone, Richards Figures, ah Nitro Nate, Taco Man Manor, Von Velt, OG Gamer, all the people over there at Hunt Showdown Memes, huntdown shit Hunt Showdown Clips, and Hunt Showdown the game page itself.
00:37:13
johncat
I want to thank everybody for coming and hanging out with us on our Instagram page, ah getting in touch with us, Harrison's already said goodnight. Harrison, let you say goodnight one more time.
00:37:27
Clutch Commander
Night, everybody.
00:37:29
johncat
I'm anxious to see how this episode turns out since it booted me off. And ah you may be living a three-star life, but I hope you have a six-star week.
00:37:42
johncat
Ladies and gentlemen, I'll see you next time.