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Speaker: Hello listeners. Welcome back to the Audacity podcast. I am one of your co -hosts, Rachel, and I'm here again today with Heather and Haley. Hello. Two of my closest friends that I love getting to hang out with every week and having like a little therapeutic chat. So ladies, how are things? Was everybody been up too?
Speaker: Just kid grateful, but no, I don't even have to get out of bed. Are you kidding me? There's always one of them that's that they wake me up like way before my alarm. Does one come into bed like every morning being like mom? Yeah, but it's more like mom, I'm hungry. Yeah. You know, why is it dark? Because it's 5 45. This doesn't come up. You know, like, why is it dark? I'd be like, yeah, exactly. Why is it dark? What are you doing? Yeah, go back to bed. Great question. Valid.
Speaker: Hayley, what have you been up to? I've really had a new TaskRabbit experience. She did. What's his name? The actor, Jacob. Oh, Jacob Elordi. We've discovered that we're one connection away from him now. Oh, yeah, we are. Because my TaskRabbit, his sister played Priscilla in the Elvis Presley movie.
Speaker: No way. Yeah. Wow, that's - We had a great time. We spent Christmas Eve, Eve together for about two and a half hours. Well, why? What task did he fulfill? Well - No, no, I meant like -
Speaker: Which tasks did he fulfill? Well, there were actually tasks that I did not know. I'm going to start rumors right now. So we were putting up shelves, glass shelves, and then we like redid a bunch of stuff in my bathroom. We, I pointed, but okay. I realized that I have a serious issue.
Speaker: I was, when I'm scrolling on TaskRabbit to fight to pick who I was going to pick, I caught myself mid halfway down going, he's cute. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like back it up. This is important. Like go back to the five star reviews. Like we aren't mounting glass. This is not okay. Bouncing something. Yeah. Oh, wow.
Speaker: That part, yeah. We're not speaking left and right. We're like five star reviews. I was looking for the guy with the best tool to use for the job. We found him. I also had an idea about that. I was like, it kind of makes sense if you're going to, might as well have a handyman and a boyfriend at the same time. Yeah, because that's one thing my husband is not great at.
Speaker: I've only had one ex that was ever kind of handy. Yeah. No, his intention is there. There's so much. And I think, too, it's different going from home ownership to renting. When you rent, you're like, oh, this broke. I'm going to call my landlord or task grab it.
Speaker: And then like, you just all of a sudden you're both just standing there in the kitchen like, we'll call someone like what do you you know, like water like garbage disposal doesn't work. It's like, there's food everywhere. You're like, okay, cool. So this is why we need a home warranty. So that will do it. I get that. I had like a really well had no I have like a really like macho man dad who's very handy.
Speaker: And I don't know if I was just bored or what happened, but he's taught me so much stuff around the house. So in all of my relationships, I've always been the handy one, the one that can fix things. Even if we're having a barbecue, who's the one that builds the fire?
Speaker: I'm like, step aside, let me handle this. That's a huge flex. My dad's the same way. My dad spent time in college when he was in college and he built houses in the summer. And so he can do everything. Very valuable. So he can literally do everything.
Speaker: Matt and I, not so much, so it's okay. My dad was a carpenter, so you'd think I'd be a little... I could put some furniture together. Okay, but there is one other thing that happened that was very odd, which I actually never thought about. I have owned this vintage red chest that I got in Ocean Beach. It's like this old Japanese, really beautiful chest, but there's one drawer that's like cemented shut.
Speaker: And so I start telling this guy about it. He's like, we're going to open that door. And so meanwhile, like, okay, now my task grab a bill is going higher and higher because now we're just trying to open up this random drawer. At one point he's just like inside trying to open it. I was like, I don't think this is a good idea. Honestly, this is bringing me back to when Post Malone opened that chest and then got cursed.
Speaker: Yeah, I didn't know about this. Did you know about this Heather? No, what? It's like ghost hunters. I guess like, like Post Malone was on what that ghost hunters show and he opened some like box. It was like a chest that they said don't open. Yeah, and then afterwards, like crazy stuff started happening to him. Is this like right after right before he fell off stage and broke all those ribs? Well, I don't think he was in a plane crash. Actually,
Speaker: right on cue with the cursing. Rachel went to us like
Speaker: We went on a little bit of a rampage the other day. I need to hear about this. We did so much. We ended up at a psychic. We spent all day trying to find a psychic, first of all. Could not find one anywhere. We went to multiple establishments. We were knocking on the door. It was like, is the psychic in today? No one's home. And finally, at the end of the night, we finally find one. And she gives me this palm reading.
Speaker: She's saying all this weird stuff, but then she was like, you need to know that there's a short woman with brown hair out there that's really jealous of you and that's put a curse on you. I was just like, uh. Yeah.
Speaker: At the end of it, she was like, do you have any questions? And I was like, is there any good news? You're like, well, actually, if you're just gonna leave. Then she tried to like, upsell me on like a crystal healing. And it's like, no, I don't know. She's like, this one's $2 ,500. I'm like, yeah, it's not really in the budget for today. I don't know. That was a wild situation.
Speaker: So do we think that there really is a short brunette that put a curse on you? Or do we think that this was like a whole marketing scheme because she introduced this? No, because like the other stuff that she was saying was just like straight facts.
Speaker: Some of the other stuff she was saying, she's like, the person that you're supposed to be with is out there, but you guys aren't together because he's more stubborn than you are. I was just like, huh. What could that actually be? I'd like to meet that person. Heather, this is next level though. It brought us completely back to the build a boyfriend where she goes to meet
Speaker: You haven't met your soulmate and then she tells Rachel that she has basically and that they're too stubborn to be together. She's like the only person like more stubborn than you is this man and that's like why you guys aren't together and I was like
Speaker: Oh no. She checks out, unfortunately. Okay. So did she offer any other information about the short brunette woman? Like, do you know her? She didn't give me any more information. I was so shocked by everything at that point that I didn't really like ask any additional questions. I was just like rattled. But she was saying that
Speaker: That girl is like in some way associated with the guy that I'm supposed to be with. And she, cause those things like came back to back. She also told me I was supposed to be very well known, but no one knows my face yet. And I was like, okay. Let me, let me hop on the podcast. We get queued up. You guys. It was so weird. Haley cried. I cried. She got cursed. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, we had a lot of interesting conversations that day. At one point, Hailey was trying to sell one of our Uber drivers on listening to the podcast. And he's like, I'd rather not. And he was like, let me just send it to you. He's like, I'm going to tell you right now, I'm not going to listen to it. And she was like, no, come on. She's like, maybe we just put it on right now while we're in the car. And he's like, no. One more stream. I was also, who else did I? I made somebody rate us. I was taking their phone. I was like five stars.
Speaker: That's so funny. And every Uber, collectively, between the three of us, if we just turn on the most recent episode. Why am I hearing two of your voices right now? At another point, Hailey goes, I'm actually starting to like the sound of my own voice. We've really created some narcissistic behavior. But we knew you were liking your voice, Hailey, after you did the Pilates training.
Speaker: I just felt powerful with that mic. Yeah, I mean, now you're on Spotify. I love that press. I love that. Well, the name of the game today is talking about personal style and fashion choices. I know that Hailey has prepared a little rapid fire to get going. Okay, so ins and outs for 2024. You guys tell me in or out.
Speaker: You can say why if you'd like to. Cargo pants. Out. Fuck. Out. No reason just out? Okay. Utilitarian out. Okay. Tiny sunglasses. What do you think? Me? Yeah. I'm over it. Yeah. Out. Out. Tiny sunglasses. I don't know because sunglasses I feel like are so related to your face shape.
Speaker: But you know there's a trend. You know what really bothers me is when the girls wear their glasses down here and then they just look over them and they're like those little tiny ones. I've done that. I think. I know. It reminds me of Danielle Bernstein. It's like, what are you doing? Don't your eyes hurt? Push them up. You look ridiculous.
Speaker: Unless you're whatever I was gonna say like unless you're having a moment and it's part of the entire ensemble or you're like Doja Cat on the red carpet. Yeah, I would say unless you are really making a statement with them and it's part of like a whole ensemble for a particular event sure do your skinnies but in every day I'm just gonna say out. Okay.
Speaker: Alright, fair enough. Hailey seems like she wants them in. I just have a small face. So do I. That's why I'm saying it's like so dependent, but like the way you wear them. I'm over the tiny. I'm over the tiny. Alright, super ripped baggy jeans, like the super, super distressed. Out. They're kind of an ick for me. They're so out. They're in for me. I'm feeling them again. Yeah. Okay, I would say. And for Dashing just wore a hair that I'm
Speaker: I'm not gonna lie, I'm gonna hunt for them. I would say I like, I'm okay with them, girls wearing them. Men, that's still just gonna be a no for me. Yeah, that's a no for me. It's a neck. Okay, monochromatic. Monochromatic always in. Same. We'll never go out. Designer cross. Still in. Yeah, I'm okay with it. Not for me personally, but I think some like when guys are in, it's kind of cute.
Speaker: My kids will wear them for me. My kids will wear them, so sure. I've seen you wearing your kids' Crocs. You've rolled up wearing your kids' Crocs recently. Absolutely. Yeah, on my way out, if I'm passing the laundry room and I'm like, shit, they choose. Yeah. Not to actually be a functioning human being, but for a quick drop. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. OK, the color red, but as a statement.
Speaker: I personally don't do well in red. It's doesn't, it's not like on my palette. However, I'm okay with it. Like I've seen a lot of women wear it lately, dresses, jackets, even. I've seen a lot of nylons, like red nylons in the winter. I'm okay with it. I think in still, sorry. Yeah. I think in, but I think in a different hue. I think like an orange red is going to have a moment.
Speaker: And we're going into spring. It's like a new, you know, we're slowly transitioning. I like red. The male skirt. Always. In. I have an opinion on this. Do you tell me? Because I've seen a lot of male skirts recently. I think it depends who the person is. But I've also seen the male skirt with the, like the
Speaker: trousers underneath, which I like that look. I think that is really, really cool. Maybe the mini skirts, not as much. I don't know if I've seen many men wearing mini skirts recently. I have. I'm good. Heather.
Speaker: That's different. Personally, I don't see them that often. I think it's probably where I live. Yeah, well, I'm in LA. It's probably where I see it. 100%. I think if you feel comfortable in it and that's your personal style, then who am I to say no? Amen. Capris. No. Male or female. I don't think that they were ever back in. No, but I'm seeing male capris.
Speaker: tight male capris quite a bit. Where? Around LA. In West Hollywood or like in Hollywood where the Eurotrash people come to visit? I'm telling you, I'm seeing it a lot. What blocks are you on specifically? Hailey visits every neighborhood every weekend. She goes for nights for rounds. I know.
Speaker: Okay, I'm having a feeling this is like Eurotrash high season capris on men that you're seeing. I think. Coming to have a cheaper trip to LA instead of not in the summer. I don't know. I think Hailey should give us a trends report per neighborhood. Yeah. Monthly. Oh, you could literally blindfold me, drop me off somewhere and I could open my eyes and know exactly what neighborhood in LA I'm in.
Speaker: Anyways, moving out of you. Good job, honey. Thank you. Okay, thanks. That's another glasses thing. I think it depends on your face. Yeah, that too. We're talking like pixie bangs. I'm going to go ahead and say that's a no for me. Some people, it actually really suits their face and their forehead.
Speaker: It's a no for me, personally. I've had bangs out. I actually want to throw away all the photographs of me. I can imagine that. I remember you having bangs. I had to. It was like my look on the team when I danced. So my director was like, she needs bangs.
Speaker: they forced you to cut bangs. Oh, yeah. So like you sign waivers. Well, like, it's like if you're a backup dancer, like, yeah, it's not as common now. But if there's a look, if there's like a theme, if they need you to be the girl with the blonde hair, if they need you to be the girl with the short hair, if they need you to cut your hair, like it's, it's, it's part of casting. So
Speaker: Yeah. Wild. That's wild. Yep. You're a real champion for that one. What? That would have been like, uh -uh. Clip in bangs. Fine. Right? I know. What was I thinking? It's okay. I would say bangs are going to be out. I don't know. I want to cut bangs right now. We'll do it.
Speaker: Four months ago, I was texting you guys being like, hey, I think I'm gonna cut my hair off and cut bangs and diet red. And you guys were like, maybe do one each of those until you reach that. That was aggressive. I know, but I'm either want like a full hair makeup or makeover or nothing. Like, I'm gonna stay like this. I might still have that text conversation in my phone because I absolutely remember it being like,
Speaker: Oh, okay, we're just gonna pump the brakes. We're gonna go good sound friend advice here and I'm gonna tell her one thing at a time. Yeah. And don't start with bangs. And then also you guys are like, are you okay? And I was like, yeah, I'm fine. I just want like a change. And you're like, okay, maybe like ease into the change. Don't go like full throttle.
Speaker: Which was sound advice, thank you, because I probably wasn't okay. That's probably just what it was. Instead she started a podcast. Let me tell my problems to the world. The old faithful skinny jeans. Look, have I worn skinny jeans in the past month? Yes.
Speaker: But it's because I was wearing like riding boots and like, what am I gonna tuck baggy jeans into that? Exactly. Exactly. Oh, I wore the skinnies. And that's kind of, I think that there's a time and a place for them. But yeah.
Speaker: more times than not know. But I know that a lot of women, especially suburban women, it's like this is a really hard one. It's a huge topic. A lot of discourse about it on the internet, but it's like... I think a lot of it has to do with your body shape, right? I think that has so much to do with it because unfortunately, I know a lot of women just don't feel very confident and don't feel like a wide leg or a flare.
Speaker: fits, suits them, doesn't suit their height, their size, all the things. At the end of the day, I think it's what you feel most confident in. Yeah. I would say skinny jeans, though, at large, are out.
Speaker: just like that whole conversation. Like just objectively, objectively, if I just have to say in or out, I'm not going to say in. So yeah, I feel like I don't ever see you wear a skinny jean really don't and we'll also but here's just to like touch on what Heather is saying. I have
Speaker: a weird proportion of legs to torso. For me, actually, a wider leg makes me look more proportionate. A mid -rise wide leg makes my body look more proportionate than when I'm just in skinny jeans because it draws the weight of the eye down and makes me look longer. We have three left. Short shorts.
Speaker: I think short shorts are iconic and will always be in. Short shorts are always a yes. If you can rock it, maybe even if you can't, you feel comfortable. I'm going to say short shorts are always in. Yeah. I feel like short shorts are timeless. All seasons at that. Like a hot, like a beautiful like short short, even in the winter with like boot. Oh yeah. Absolutely. A bunch of designers are showing short shorts this spring.
Speaker: Short shorts. Cat suits. Oh, boy. That's a tough one. I'm going to go ahead and say, I'm just going to say no. I'm going to say no. I think material matters. I think that body type matters. And for most folks, it's a no.
Speaker: I want to say at large, no matter what your body type is, it's a no, like the cat suit thing is just so overdone by the Kardashians and like that whole camp and people that dress just like that, that I think that, I don't know, it's just oversaturated. I don't think anyone's excited to like put on a cat suit and feel like they're like super in vogue, you know? I was never really a fan. What I will say is like kind of, I didn't mind it on pregnant people though.
Speaker: Oh my gosh, that's so actually on point because you know who just had the most incredible cat suit on when she was pregnant? Was that Carolyn Freeland? Oh yeah. She had like that sequent one on where she's like kissing her husband. I actually have that image ingrained in my head when she was pregnant. It was like right around the holidays and she looked like chef's kiss. No, that's iconic. Okay there, but still at large, no. Yeah.
Speaker: Agreed. Very rare instances. Last one, contouring. I think contouring is going to stay for as long as we want to look snatched. Yeah. Now maybe like over contouring or looking like you have like mud on your face. No, but I definitely think that a lot of women use contouring in lieu of fillers or facial reconstruction. And I think that people just don't understand that
Speaker: Like doing your makeup, if you do it well, it's like artistry. You can literally change your features or the appearance of your features with contouring. And I say, you know, if you want to do that and it makes you feel better and it looks great, then when will that ever be out? Yeah. I see girls on TikTok or whatever who do
Speaker: specific contouring and they'll do like one side of their face be like how I used to do my makeup in this other side like how I do it now the different contouring technique and they look like a different person it's just like more lifted and snatch and I don't think that will ever go out of style I think people are always gonna want to look
Speaker: more angular, like no one wakes up and says, Oh, I want to have a puffier rounder face. Like, no, no one wants to look like that. You know, I need to learn how to contour because I see some to your point, Rachel, some of these TikTok videos are like, like, you'll see them. It really is. It's artistry. Yeah. Whoa, like that is crazy. It's it's amazing. It's it really is like some of these makeup artists, some
Speaker: They absolutely deserve every single dime that they get for that they do because it is just like, it's almost catfishing. It's not, but almost. I don't mind because we're all doing it. I understand. But I just say it. It's like, they're so talented. Yeah. I also think it comes down to the products too. Like using the right products. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, do you guys want to hear a funny story? I don't know why I just thought of this. Always. So over Halloween.
Speaker: There's more partying and drinking. I don't know. Me and Haley don't have kids or boyfriends. So we do, we still get to do whatever we want. Um, and it was Halloween weekend and we went out on Saturday night and then we woke up the next morning and kind of just started like doing like a day party thing that like went into night, but we never redid our makeup. So we were just like in last night's makeup.
Speaker: And at one point we're in West Hollywood with some people and some guy that we know, we're like walking by and he knows Patrick Ta and he like stops to say hi to Patrick Ta on the side of the street. And he was like, oh, she goes to hide. I was like, uh -uh. I'm in a full face of last night's Patrick Ta makeup. He's going to recognize the blush color right now. We're not, no, no, no, no. We like made eye contact and I was like, oh God, run, run.
Speaker: I grabbed her and I was like, we're not going over there. That's so funny. Remember we snatched him before he was like Patrick Ta. I know he did. He did your wedding makeup. He did. He was like semi blowing up and it was not cheap, but it was definitely not like while he had a Sephora beauty line. That's for sure. So yeah, he was great. Yeah, that was lovely. He was. So were his assistants.
Speaker: Overall, 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. So don't show up in last night's makeup though. No, that was embarrassing. I was like, honestly, I thought we looked very serious. I can't do this. It did look good though. I must've slept like this though, because it's still perfect.
Speaker: I know, I looked great. I even had people commenting on my Instagram being like, you look great. I was like, really? Maybe that's like the key is just sleeping in your makeup next day, pop it up. Oh, you're going to get dragged on TikTok by all the girls who are like, do you sleep in your makeup after the club? I say, live a little. Have some fun, relax. Are you really going out?
Speaker: And you're like, about every single time that worried about like, Oh my God, in my drunken stupor, I have to wash my like, God, what an ick. That's an ick for me, man. Yeah.
Speaker: It's like the people, I'm going to get dragged for this too. Shocker. When people go on vacation and they're like, Oh, I got to pack all my workout clothes. Shut up. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, that's, that's ambitious. No, it's like, I understand if you're going somewhere where it's super scenic, right? You're going to Sedona, you're going to Hawaii, like, of course pack workout clothes, you're going to get, it's like part of the where you're going. Totally understand. Yeah, Rachel, you went to Panama, Costa Rica, like I get it. Okay.
Speaker: Don't fucking think that I am going to wake up at six o 'clock and go work out at the hotel gym with you. Like, not once. Man, you can miss me with that. Like, don't. This is so funny because I remember one time, like a few years ago, I was actually with you and you were going on a trip and I think it might've been like couples or whatever, but you had a group chat with the ladies and someone was like, are we bringing workout clothes? And you look at me and you're like, oh God, I hate this.
Speaker: No, I know exactly dude. I know exactly the group of women that I was with. It was my neighbors and we were going to my friend Breanne's house. She has this like beautiful home, one of her beautiful homes in Sedona and we were going and it was like, house sleeps like 14 or something. And so it was our whole neighborhood on this group chat and everyone's like, oh, let's bring workout clothes to work out. And I'm like, man, like if we're going to do like the vortex or whatever it's called, then cool. But like I don't,
Speaker: Stop it. No, vacation is for relaxation, in my opinion. Yeah, I know. I'm going to get dragged for that, but ugh. All right, ladies, should we get to the advice portion of this podcast? Do it. All right. Well, if you are someone that needs advice, you can go to our website, the audacitypod .com and write in for advice or send us a confession for our listener confession episode that is coming up.
Speaker: Send us your confessions. I know so much about all of you. Send us good ones. So, where do you all shop for clothes? I'm caught in the millennial fashion limbo, too old for trends, too young for velcro shoes. Ever feel like you're stuck in a fashion purgatory? You walk into a trendy store and suddenly you feel like you're auditioning for a TikTok music video you never signed up for.
Speaker: wander into a more mature store and it's like, when did I start shopping in my grandma's closet? So where do you all find that perfect balance? Stores or brands that don't make us feel out of place but also don't age us by 20 years? That's a really good question. That's something actually that I've been thinking about a lot. I shop at Zara so much.
Speaker: I was just going to say one word, Zara. I am just such a guilty Zara shopper and I'm trying to break the habit of it, but it's just like no matter where I am, there's a Zara ticket too quickly if I need something or if I'm just perusing around. I feel like quality for the price is actually good. I have many Zara items that I've had for 10 plus years, just like a basic sweater or something that I can throw on.
Speaker: Um, and they're still in good condition. So, but at the same time, I have been trying to stop shopping at Zara. And so I've been shopping more online, but I don't love shopping online. It's not for me. Yeah. I also, I would say Zara is probably one of typically like my go -to just because I feel like a lot of the clothes are the way you style them. You could make them looks like every person who.
Speaker: will compliment like a jacket or jeans or whatever, even like your TikTok famous jeans. It's like it's always Zara and I don't know what it is about how like clean their aesthetic is that it looks designer and it's affordable.
Speaker: Yeah, but like some, I really like Stodd, the brand. Um, and I also have been like really on Isabel Marant lately for like accessories, especially her bags. I love those. I mean, I like Kate. I love Kate discount Haley. Um, yeah, we're going to get dragged for Zara, but the true low, it's totally true. And I feel like a lot of people do resort to Zara because
Speaker: More times than not, it will last you a few years. They are kind of staple pieces. I don't know if it's the economy or what, but I feel like clothing is just getting more expensive. It is not necessarily made better. You're paying three, four, five, $600 for a dress and you get it. And you're like, this is not it. But I'll say that even about certain basics that like, you know, the sweaters pill after two wears or, you know, a t -shirt is so like dingy, like $100 t -shirt shouldn't
Speaker: pulled up a little bit better, but I mean, I've had a lot of good name brand pieces that I'd rather just buy a $10 Zara shirt at that point because... I know. The risk is less. Okay, wait. So to answer this question, where do we shop? I mean, we're not all just wearing Zara. Of course not. I mean, I am currently wearing Zara. I think I currently have like mother jeans on and I think
Speaker: That's Diarte. Yeah, this is Diarte. I love that shirt so much. It's so comfortable. I do love it. I love it, and I love that color too. Yeah, Diarte and Mother. Yeah, Diarte is a Spanish knitwear brand. It's like fast fashion or vintage, honestly. Yeah. I mixed my vintage in with the lower end stuff. All right, should we move on? Mm -hmm. How has your mother's body and or style been passed down to you?
Speaker: This is one, I definitely have my mother's body except for I'm like four inches taller than her. My mom like really liked to experiment and kind of like do her own thing. Like I remember when I was a kid she loved wearing berets and it was just like so embarrassing to me. Like she was like really into like the biker, like she'd wear like biker boots and like a vest and like this beret. She was like, okay.
Speaker: I remember that outfit being so embarrassed. And then she also had these shorts, these biker shorts. She wasn't a biker lady. I don't know why everything's biker that I'm thinking of right now. Maybe you just didn't realize. No, but she would wear these biker length shorts with these pigs on them. And just weird out there, stuff like that, where I'm like, no one else's mom dresses like this. No one's mom is walking around in.
Speaker: pig biker shorts. But you know what? Like princess day and award biker shorts all the time, especially during that time. So get off it. I know, but like with the pigs and like with clogs. She was eclectic. She was very eclectic. I think that in some weird way that got passed down to me, but I'm not sure in what capacity. 100%. Oh my gosh, I remember.
Speaker: It was like this like, I don't even know what, but like a farm girl, Silver Lake, like prairie aesthetic dress thing going on. And Rachel was like, yes. And I was like, listen, in the rest of the country and the world, like we're not doing this. Yeah, I don't know. That was like a weird
Speaker: It was like a pre -pandemic thing going on. Yeah. And then obviously that died during the pandemic because everybody switched to - At leisure. Yeah. Tie -dyed sweats. To sweat. The puffs. I was actually tie -dying the sweats, absolutely. Oh, everyone was. Shout out Rayleigh Vintage because - How about you, Haley? How has your mom influenced your style? My mom was like a hippie.
Speaker: So like, she didn't really influence my style at all. Like, yeah, I feel like your style is very like streets. Yeah, we couldn't be more opposite when it comes to that. I think I influenced her. Yeah, for sure. I would dress my mom but body type. It's so weird. Because like I can pinpoint like features of my
Speaker: parents that I look, like I'm definitely more like my dad's side, but body type, I don't really think I'm, I mean, I guess I'm similar to my mom. She has like really long legs and like, I don't know. Lucky. We're just not that - I know, right? But we're just not that similar when it comes to that, which is why it's kind of funny. Um, okay. So I have found that women,
Speaker: Not all, but many, because it's not always a blanket statement. If they have children, tend to eventually
Speaker: look like their mothers or have their mother's body type. And I think that until they do, maybe they sustain like a certain lifestyle or whatever, but it's like there's like something in your genetics, I don't know, something in the way that you just like carry your pregnancy, something in the way your body does or doesn't bounce back.
Speaker: I just find that a lot of women do indeed tend to, once they have children, if they decide to have children, oftentimes do have very similar shapes as their mothers.
Speaker: Interesting. That doesn't make sense. Whether it being just like metabolism, skin elasticity, like there's so many things that go lifestyle, right? Like there's so many things that contribute to our body types, but like. And just also like where you store fat and like how you start to like curb out like. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. I think that that's very, very much so a thing.
Speaker: Let's get into the next one. I've lost all sense of personal style after having a baby. How do you get it back? I don't know how to dress myself anymore with this different body. I gained a good bit of weight, so most of my pre -pregnancy clothes don't fit anymore. I mostly dress for comfort, but at the same time, I feel like I've, quote, let go of myself. I have this strong desire to revamp my overall style, but I don't even know where to start. What are your suggestions?
Speaker: So I would say, first and foremost, give yourself grace. You've literally brought a soul and a human into
Speaker: this world. So that in and of itself is a miracle. Like I think our bodies are just the most miraculous, incredible. It doesn't matter how many times I've had three children. I've been probably in delivery rooms for six or seven, probably closer to seven children. And every time I'm just like, my head is, it's like almost hard to comprehend. So give yourself grace, I think. And then after that,
Speaker: Don't be afraid to embrace a different size. If you have the room in your budget to go and buy a staple, to go buy a pair of jeans that are going to fit you right for the next six months to a year, do that. Find something that you are comfortable in that is going to allow you to feel good about yourself.
Speaker: Wear comfortable clothing. Go find knit sets. Do things that are going to allow you to function and show up as your best self and accessorize those.
Speaker: man like postpartum is so hard and it's not something that a lot of people talk about. It's kind of like everyone wants to talk about like pregnancy and you're glowing and it's this and this and then all of a sudden you have a child and you're expected to just go back to who you were and look the way you looked and not really, we just don't give women
Speaker: grace for that period to adjust. Give yourself grace, stay comfortable. If you really, really care about looking a certain way, then stick with knit sets and I think accessorize. Yeah, I think you said something really impactful.
Speaker: there in that after you have a baby, you're expected to just go back to who you used to be. Even though you are no longer that person, you're a whole different person. Now you are a mother to another child. Your body has changed. Obviously, naturally, your clothes would change along with that. You are no longer that same person that you were before. Why do we put that expectation on people?
Speaker: to show up as the person that they were before. Like that's wild. I mean, I've never obviously been pregnant, so I don't know what it's like to be postpartum, but I did have that black mold issue in my apartment. Remember over COVID and I gained like 40 pounds. Like I gained so much weight. I didn't know what it was. I thought it was just because like everybody was gaining weight during COVID. No, like as soon as I moved, I went back to like my normal size, which is like the wildest thing ever.
Speaker: But I remember ordering a new pair of pants in a bigger size and they came and they didn't fit and I was like, well, fuck. I was like, I don't want to see what's going on because I haven't changed my eating habits or whatever. That's a whole different level of mindfuck is gaining weight and not knowing what is going on because all your routines are basically still the same.
Speaker: this has to be like a health issue. But all that being said, I do think that no matter your size, like
Speaker: classic styles, like classic chic, like we're just a little bit of tailoring, right? Whether it's like a tailored blazer or a tailored top or tailored pants or whatever, that can always elevate so easily and make you just look chic, even if physically you're not feeling your chicest. I think that when I'm not feeling the best about myself, just putting on something with like clean lines,
Speaker: that hits in all the places that I don't, I'm not feeling bad. Like I think that.
Speaker: that that's something to lean into. And then also just like, if you want to dress like a cliche version of like a mom, then fricking go for it. Yeah. Like, and also if you don't fight it. Yeah. And if you don't, right, which may be like, because I get that too. I remember wanting to be like, Oh, like I just like want to feel like I want to, I want to feel good. Like what if I'm stepping out, you know? Yeah. Um,
Speaker: Yeah, that's good too. And that's okay. And you don't have to be who you were 10 months ago or a year ago or even two. I understand the desire to be like, man, I still want to be desired. I still want my husband to want me. I still want to feel good. I still want to feel that. I feel good about myself. Yeah.
Speaker: And man, like, yeah, I don't know. I don't have all the answers, but you're not wrong in that. And I think that, I don't know, for me it was always just accessorizing, like before. And I still don't ever feel like I fully bounced back, but I always feel great and better with like good accessories and clean lines. And then like kind of fuck what anyone else thinks.
Speaker: Yeah. You also have to be patient. Nobody bounces back that quickly after having a baby. I've had a lot of clients after they'd given birth that get really discouraged because of sizing. It takes a good four months at least to even the
Speaker: like all the swelling to change. So you can't just - Yeah, even for like your uterus to shrink back. So it's like normal size that takes a long time. Yeah. So I think - Well, it actually doesn't take that long. It's quite painful. Oh, really?
Speaker: Oh, it's fast? It just goes. Yeah. No one talks about this actually. When you are done giving birth, for most pregnancies, your uterus actually contracts and the contractions and the cramps are actually really bad for the next few days because it actually contracts back down to size in a fraction of the time it took to get to that watermelon size.
Speaker: but that doesn't mean the rest of your body does, right? Like your stomach and thighs. Like where all your organs are. Like that's one thing that I always think about. Like all your organs are displaced and then they just like somehow go back to where they used to be. And yeah, and just that, like sometimes they don't. I mean, honestly, like postpartum is something that we just culturally, like we just don't talk about. Like everyone wants to talk about labor, the, you know, the pregnancy and then the labor. And then they just expect everything to be like,
Speaker: And it's not and I actually have to give like Chrissy Teigen. She's just been like a huge advocate I feel like for women and just like what that looks like like it's not it doesn't matter how much you know how much money you have how much everyone in one way or another struggles. Yeah. And it it
Speaker: God, like, if you have if you know someone who's who's just had a child, like, my goodness, extend grace in whatever way you can, because it's not easy. Yeah. And there's also all the brands like, I mean, just to go back to like dressing, but like Spanx, like they have a whole line of like pants and all of that that kind of like suck you in and make you you know, like when I'm feeling fat, I'll just wear like, you know, like the leather, like
Speaker: they have the flare ones, they have the leggings, but like always a little nip feels good. So I mean, I, because I feel like when, you know, I also have a lot of clients who have like very savvy, like extra skin afterwards. Oh yeah. And like that kind of structure does help dress like, you know, it will hold you in. Yeah. Yeah. I think everyone, it doesn't matter your body type, like whatever size you are, I yeah, there's so many, and unfortunately now like shapewear is kind of,
Speaker: like penetrated me and she like you have shape, you know, you have your skin, you have all of these other like you can there's a ton of brands on Amazon where it's not. It's like all sizes. Like, I don't know, I just think you're gonna do what's gonna make you feel good. And
Speaker: Yeah. And support you. Yeah. And like fuck what anyone else thinks or says. Yeah. I'm kind of like on that. That's my like 2024 mantra, by the way. Like if you're not good for my mental, if you're not good for my physical, I'm just going to like not even respond. Like you're not worth my time. Amen. You're out. Yeah. Amen to that. Stop projecting. Like your problem is your own.
Speaker: Huh. Sounds familiar. Yeah. I'm going to leave that one there. That's for another day. Yeah. Thank you. OK. I have one more question for you guys, though. Of course. How would you say your personal style reflects who you are, from your personality? I love an unexpected outfit. I love pairing things together that you wouldn't necessarily think to do. So I'm also a very unexpected human being.
Speaker: There you go. I would say my style's pretty messy. The way that I wear things, it's just messy and I think about it for one second. I'm like, looks good enough, and then I move on. And that actually is part of my personality. Messy, not expected. All right, Heather. Yeah, messy, not expected. It's just like, oh, God. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: I don't know. I think I'm all over the place. Some days I'm just like, okay, sweatshirt and jeans. Sometimes I'm super functional and other times I feel like I lean more on the risque side. That's how you got those three kids. Yeah. About that. I don't know.
Speaker: Yeah, it's about how you feel about yourself. That's how you feel about yourself. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like a little risque, a little like, hey. Yep, totally. I don't know. Yeah, I feel like I'm kind of probably all over the place too. I definitely know that there's a time to be classy and put together. And maybe as I get older, I feel like I tend to want to lean more towards a more subtle
Speaker: But I get sometimes I wear knit without a bra, you know? Yeah, we know. Okay, should we get into our top eight for the week? Yep. So number one for our top eight, it's Trish McCoy has ever usable makeup holder. Basically I had a big eyeshadow palette that shattered and the mirror was broken.
Speaker: you basically pop out the tins and they like magnetically stick inside of it. So it's just like a nice reasonable way too. So you don't have these big clunky eyeshadow palettes. Okay. That's kind of cool. So you can just like kind of put them all into one. I didn't realize it was magnetic. Well, the thing is, is I really like it because you know how there's some colors you just never use. Yeah. So you can kind of combine different
Speaker: Oh, yeah. So that's kind of cool. I've like combined two different palettes into just this one little thing that I can kind of like take with me. And they all are magnetically in place. That's cool. Number two on the list this week.
Speaker: is the nixit menstrual disc. Oh yeah. So no one really knows this. I mean, I don't know why they would, but I stopped using tampons like probably almost five years ago.
Speaker: because when I would use them, like inside of me would feel raw by the end of it. I just didn't like it. I feel like I could feel the chemicals like hurting me. Does that make sense? Oh yes, it does. It would just hurt. So I switched to a disc and it was the disposable one from Flex.
Speaker: I kind of liked it, but there was a lot of leakage. I felt like I was in a place where I didn't necessarily want to go back to tampons, so I was just kind of continuing to use the flex even though that it was leaking. Then about a year ago, I was in Whole Foods and I saw a reusable disc. I know that there's menstrual cups, but I just never thought that those would fit inside me correctly.
Speaker: So I liked the idea of this disc. So I bought the reusable disc. I use this one from Nixit. And what I like about it is that the rim of it is double lined. So like once you put it up there, it's like there's no leakage, nothing comes out. When you do eventually take it out in morning and at night, so you only have to switch it twice a day, I just do it in the shower and I like pull it out and it looks like a murder scene.
Speaker: But then you just wash it with soap and you can stick it right back in. And honestly, there's days where I forgot I'm on my period and I had to get back in the shower at the end of the night to take it out because I forgot. Which that's amazing. I love it. I'm never going back to tampons. Tampons are so bad for us. They really are. I didn't get it onto it for the hippie dippy reasons.
Speaker: It is nice to know that pollution is lower. I'm not flushing tampons down weird toilets because there's no way I'm not flushing those things. I'm not putting it in the basket and dealing with it later. I can't handle it. No one is. That's the other thing. People are like, oh yeah, there's just so many reasons. They're a real sign, don't flush tampons. Feminine products. Good luck.
Speaker: Cause this baby's going down. Yeah, I'm not fucking up other people's plumbing anymore. Love that for us. Wait, that was too real, but I mean, yeah, that's going to resonate. Yeah. I mean, let's be real. Yeah. All right.
Speaker: Okay, so I have one. And now that we're, I keep saying we're transitioning seasons, but really not. It's just like we're in January, but it's still warm in Arizona. So my new favorite thing is the Milk Makeup Matte Cream Bronzer Stick.
Speaker: I have kind of moved away from powder and that like cakey look and I feel like you can layer it. You can use it, whether it's winter, spring, summer, and you have like a real, real nice sun kiss, deep glow. It's just been really good for me. And again, I'm just not on board for like a cakey matte look. I like prefer a dewy look. So it's been,
Speaker: We love a Chloe girl. It's been a game changer. Okay. My recent other little obsession is blue bottle coffee. The New Orleans nice coffee. I have been like addicted to this like crack lately. Between that, they have this Belgium waffle and there's one right down the street. I literally can't stop eating it. It's like the reason I wake up in the morning. But the New Orleans coffee is like as, um,
Speaker: It's called like chicory or something. Okay. It's like roasted with chicory. I don't know. It must be a New Orleans thing, but it is. I highly recommend it. There's something so good. It is. It gets you going. Okay. Next on our top eight. I
Speaker: Really like the ordinary glycolic acid toner. Have you guys ever used that? No. Okay. Well, I'm prone to body acne and I started using it every night before bed, like using it. I use it on my face, but then I also use it for like the back of my arms and my back here.
Speaker: And I haven't gotten any weird acne or anything on my back. And actually, it's so smooth. I think it exfoliates is what it does so that it's not getting clogged pores back there. But I do so much hot yoga that something about the sweat, if I don't use it, I'll get body acne back here. OK. I have one. OK.
Speaker: So I live in Arizona and I've never known dry skin like when I moved to Arizona and just like scalp issues, lip issues, just like all the things moving from California. So I was on the hunt for a really good lip moisturizer because I also feel like it doesn't matter how much water I drink, I just cannot keep my lips moisturized. And I finally found one and it is the
Speaker: I think it's like O -G -O -G -E -E. It's called a tinted sculpted lip oil. And it comes obviously tinted, but it's like it's an actual lip oil like a lip pen. And it I know I keep saying this been a game changer, but that's why it's on my suggested products because
Speaker: Yeah, it's not just like a balm and it's not something that you have to put on at night. Yeah. It gives you like a nice little hue. And I swear like I even actually use their like most neutral rose color on my daughters because it helps them with their dry lips and it doesn't look like I'm sending my daughters to school with makeup on. Right? Yeah. I love that. Yeah, it's like honestly, it's like almost like aqua for like, but tinted. Okay, seven.
Speaker: Number seven is going to be so recently, like obviously we just passed through all the holidays and getting dressed up with dresses. I kind of forgot about little undergarments, how important they are. And I've tried so many different brands, but I swear by it. I don't know if you guys use the brand Nippies.
Speaker: Nipple covers? Yeah, the little silicone. Maybe I need to look into those after my boob tape accident. Okay. It ripped off my skin badly. I almost cried. She was afraid to take the other one off. It was so bad. Anyway, sorry I didn't mean to cut you off. No, these are like little silicone. It basically makes your boob look like a boob without a nipple, which obviously if you're going to have sexy time that night, maybe take them off so you don't
Speaker: scare the guy. It's like the cleanest, like it's the best for, especially if you're wearing something sheer. Cause there's like different skin tones.
Speaker: I love that. He should be so lucky. Yeah, I was about to say I hooked up with a guy before wearing just full boob tape and I was like, sorry. Wait, I have an amazing - It wasn't for the first time but I was like, this is what we're working with today and I'm not taking it off. Dude, I have a girlfriend who told me that one time she had the sticky ones and she ripped him off and he was like, wait, and he threw it against the wall. No.
Speaker: Like, who cares? This is a joke. Like, wait, hop on, let me rip him off. Like, really? You're embarrassed by that. And you're freaking like, you know, however many inches in like, get out of here, man. Like, if you can't handle that, you're not for me. Like, I thought it was amazing. No, I love it. Like chicken cutlets. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Speaker: Anyways, okay, number eight, I started using the House Labs Foundation and I was like, this just isn't hitting the Maybelline Fit Me. The Fit Me is so good. My tried and true. I was like, I got to go to the drugstore and so I was on the aisle getting my Fit Me and I saw this lip gloss that I've been using actually and I love it and it feels
Speaker: Expensive, like it feels like a more expensive lip gloss. Um, it's the L 'Oreal and fallible pro gloss eight hour. And I've been wearing the color shell pink, just like an easy, like throw it on in the morning lip gloss, but it stays for a while, apparently eight hours. So top eight. There you go.
Speaker: All right. I think that rounds it out. Yeah. All right. So the audacity of the week, Haley has a really good story. Yeah, this is all allegedly. So at my work, there was a little rumor going around about this girl, but she got fired because she stole a pair of boots and then wore them to work. And I found out later that they were like,
Speaker: clients involved with this and like other people, like somehow, I have no idea how that's even possible there, but the audacity. Like, no, the audacity of like stealing from your job and then wearing them back to your job. Yeah. We're in a store where there's like lots of cameras, allegedly, allegedly. And a lot of hidden cameras at that. Oh, yeah. The audacity of that girl.
Speaker: I feel like a lot of women have been having audacity lately, but those are stories for other times. I love a cliffhanger. I think that's a perfect place to end. Ladies, this was a pleasure. I was excited to learn more about your style insights. Do what feels right. Do what feels good. Don't steal the boots. Don't steal the boots. Don't steal the boots.
Speaker: pay for boots. Preferably full priced. Yeah. There's Klarna now, man. Like, come on, Cory's an installment. That's a great point. All right. On that note, I'll see you guys next week. Thanks for listening. Bye. Bye.
