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My age is getting serious
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What does it even mean to be in your mid-thirties? That's the question at hand this week as we dive into topics like dating younger men, the effects of mindset, and contentment with our life decisions. We also touch on the physical aspects of aging and speak with Recovering.Elizabeth about her experience with the "guess my age" TikTok trend. Plus -have you heard about Hailey Baldwin's sister's tampon fiasco?
Watch Elizabeth's "guess my age" video
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Transcript
Podcast Intros & Their Charm
00:00:06
Speaker
At least that when I say this intro, I don't say it in my normal voice. I go, hi everybody. Welcome. So I'm trying to like. Welcome to the audacity.
00:00:17
Speaker
I don't think we need to redo it. I feel like this is endearing. Welcome to the podcast, everybody. This is what you're getting. Welcome back to the mess. How's everyone been? Heather, what have you been up to?
Dental Concerns for Kids
00:00:31
Speaker
Just kid stuff per usual, but a lot. There's been a lot. Liv actually had surgery.
00:00:38
Speaker
That was yeah, it's actually oral surgery. She needed to get two teeth pulled their baby teeth while they were doing that they went in and like did a feeling and she's gonna lose a tooth and like she's getting her molars in eventually. So they like wanted to actually
00:00:57
Speaker
put a crown on one. It was just so much. I'm like, this seems so unnecessary for a seven year old whose teeth aren't actually rotting. Like I can understand, you know, if there was a really big issue, but we figured it out. And yeah, it was all as well. I will say as
00:01:15
Speaker
a girl who's had many teeth pulled. Like for some reason, my baby teeth did not want to fall out. So I literally had to have like almost 10 of my baby teeth pulled because I would not fall out. Heather, do you remember in junior high where like my canine teeth, they had those chains that they had to like pull down?
00:01:33
Speaker
Yeah, I do. I have fucked up teeth. Like literally they were mangled. Well, and part of Liv's thing is that on the left side of her mouth, on the bottom left side, her baby teeth came in with no enamel, but like only on the bottom left side. And so that's where they pulled teeth. Oh, that's scary.
00:01:51
Speaker
I've never even heard of that. Are they really sensitive? She's never complained. She didn't even know she had a cavity in one of them. So anyways, it was like a whole thing. And her adult teeth that have come in, she's had one that's on the left side and it does have enamel. So they're hopeful that the rest of them will come in. But if not, then she's going to have a pill battle with crowns and
00:02:16
Speaker
Lord knows what else because without the enamel, I mean, your teeth are just kind of... Yeah, I'm afraid of that. Yeah, I'm a nerd of that. But she's doing well. Kids are doing well. I had baseball today. Most of the kids out here are on spring break. He's not, so he had to miss some school to be able to field the baseball team, but we're doing well.
00:02:37
Speaker
You know? Yeah. You? He's good enough that I would pull him out of school too and be like, get your ass on the field. Okay. He's 10. It's not like there's so much time. I feel like what I try and tell him is listen, without school, there is no baseball.
00:02:53
Speaker
Got to stay out for a game and I'm like, go back, go turn her home again.
NY Trip Misadventures
00:02:59
Speaker
A little bit of a change of pace, Haley and I were in New York stirring up some shit. Oh, boy. I have FOMO with all of your guys' trips.
00:03:11
Speaker
Oh yeah, that one was- This is the first one actually. No, I feel like you guys- Or like in LA. Yeah, in LA. Did you guys do you guys do Miami? You guys are- No, I've never been to Miami. I'm trying to convince both of you guys to pack a bag and go to Miami for my birthday. I know, I know. I'm down. Okay. You know what? I could do it. I could swing it. It's just about being prepared. What I will say about going-
00:03:40
Speaker
like weekends with Rachel, like for two people who spend so much time together, we literally like do not fight like there's no like we're just like, yeah, okay, let's go. Oh, Rachel's so great to travel with. And she like, she's like, this is where we need to go. And this is how we're gonna get there. And I
00:03:58
Speaker
that is just her anyway, she's gonna find a way she's gonna figure it out. But I also feel like she doubles down on that with me because she knows that normally I'm the one who has to be like in my everyday life, like, this is how we're gonna get through today. And so when I know I'm going somewhere with Rachel, I'm just like,
00:04:17
Speaker
Tell me where to be. Let me handle
The 'Cult' Dynamic
00:04:20
Speaker
some things for you ladies. Let me show you. No, but I feel like you could blindfold the two of us and just put us in a random area and we're like, okay, let's go there. No. That's Rachel. I feel like part of her charisma, her charms. My charms? We definitely had. We went to New York with the goal of recording
00:04:45
Speaker
I was like, okay, I had, as you guys were just mentioning, I had it all planned out. I was like, we're going here at this time, whatever. And then, um, as the hours went by, it got less and less productive to the point where I'm looking back at these videos and I'm like, we don't have anything to post.
00:05:04
Speaker
I'm like, I'm going to have to like, there's some that don't have an intro. There's some intros that we never made it to the actual bar that we were supposed to go to. And then there's like one good one at the Chelsea hotel, but we both look like we got run over. It was martini number eight. No. It was like 2 PM on the next day. And we're like, we got to get out of bed. We got to like go do things like we were time traveling. We got a little distracted by boys.
00:05:34
Speaker
Yeah. Shocker. That happened. Actually, you know what?
Restaurant Mishap with a Chair
00:05:38
Speaker
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. That is shocking because I feel like... Right? That is actually not characteristic. That was... Of me. It's not. Yeah, it really isn't actually. It's really not. And so... Yeah, actually I was... Oh my God, you guys.
00:05:53
Speaker
What? Remember when I rode the chair down the stairs? Tell her how this works. I reference this all the time. Whenever I'm like my feet hurt, I don't want to walk downstairs. My church had this. Yeah. It's for if you're disabled. Yeah. So obviously I was handicapped at that moment because I could not walk down the stairs and I saw that chair and I was like,
00:06:16
Speaker
I can put me on that thing. By the way, we are at a restaurant, okay? She's wearing a $2,000 dress. We're at a boozy restaurant on the Upper East Side, and we go up to the bathroom. Okay, and also, we get recommended to this restaurant because one of Hailey's friends is friends with the chef there, right? Okay. Yes, I received many text messages at this.
00:06:44
Speaker
There was a congo line, okay, so we weren't the most unhinged in the entire restaurant because they have a nightly congo line and people keep going back to this restaurant. Again, try to get me to join. I mean, sign me up.
00:06:56
Speaker
Anyways, Hailey went down the handicap thing. She found a man to push the button for the entire time while she went down the stairs. First of all, can I just talk about that? Why can't you just push the button and you go? Why do you have to push the button? What if you're by yourself? Yeah, I'm guessing it's user error. Neither of us can figure it out. And she got into the chair, strapped in. I was like, I want nothing to do with this. I walked down the stairs and I was like, camera ready. I'm like, you figure it out, bitch. And she went as far as she could in this session. Leave it to rage.
00:07:25
Speaker
As soon as she can't touch the button anymore, all of a sudden, an older man comes around the corner, is like, dancing in distress, and like, stands there and pushes the button for her ass. She's like, cheers.
00:07:36
Speaker
I was like, yeah. He actually needed. He's like, oh, go ahead, man. Oh, no, he was walking first. I did start a cult. We started a cult. It turns out it's very easy to get people to join a cult. Especially, oh my gosh, yeah, in today's age.
Age Gaps in Relationships
00:07:56
Speaker
We were just asking random people like, hey, we're in our cult and they're like, no questions asked. Yes. Right? Well, I think looking at you two and then also like, these are tough times. People are like, yeah, fuck it. What else is there? Let's join the cult. No one asked the question. They just don't. No. I think literally only one people were like- Only one person said- One person was like, he goes, what do I have to do? And we're like, it's guess or no.
00:08:20
Speaker
You're there and you're out. Rachel goes, that's not how a cult works. It's yes or no. And he was like, I don't even like, what do I have to do? More like, no. I mean, show up. That's yes. That's yes.
00:08:37
Speaker
Wait, the best part is we text Heather. We're like, we started a cult and she was like, yeah, we're, we're like, we started a cult. We're like, we have 15 members and Heather was like, well, 16 because obviously I'm in and I was like, perfect. I was already like, well, Heather will join. Literally like while we're texting her, she's like Heather will join. I was like, okay.
00:08:57
Speaker
Yeah, she will. I mean, I signed up for this to tell all of my secrets and completely expose myself. So, Colt, that's child's play. Yeah. I did kind of lose respect for the art of Colt making, actually. So, you know how we've talked about I'm attracted to people who could be like the leaders of a Colt? And now seeing that it's so easy, I'm like, oh.
00:09:21
Speaker
On today's episode, we speak about narcissism. Actually. I'm like, wait a second. I didn't realize it's this easy. I'm still exclusively attracted to men who have a vision and direct other people to achieve that vision. Anyways, we absolutely embarrassed ourselves. First night though?
00:09:43
Speaker
this idiot. First of all, we were out again. Like, we should have been jet lagged. Like we're coming from California. We should have been so fucking tired. Oh, another direction though. We gained our Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, we did. We did anyways. So I tried to order Taco Bell to the hotel. She didn't didn't think to change the address. So I ordered it to Beverly Hills got back four days later. Guess what was still inside my door? Hey, that's good. I'm surprised the rats or raccoons didn't get to it. The burrito was in a rock.
00:10:14
Speaker
Oh, it's so gross. Have you guys ever left your food in the sink, just like untouched overnight and then the next day find it and you're like, oh, no wonder why my stomach always hurts. A hundred percent. Just like the world. Yeah, like what it turns into sometimes. Okay. I have a question for you guys. Please. What do you guys feel about Kristen Kowaliri and her child's boyfriend? I think it's new that she's posting the way that she is.
00:10:44
Speaker
because she doesn't really do that. So I feel like we're proving something to someone. I'll just leave that. That's an interesting point. She's using this guy to make a point. Yeah, I feel like we're proving something to someone because I feel like even on her own podcast, she doesn't talk about names. She doesn't do that. So I'm a little confused by that move. I feel like she's never really been that person to do that. So I feel like something clearly happened
00:11:13
Speaker
that she felt a need to post that. That's what I'm gonna say about it. I'm all four. I really don't care about age gaps like that, but- Well, what is it, like 12 years or 13 years? Okay, here's the thing. He's right out of college and I
Controlling Relationship Narratives
00:11:28
Speaker
feel like- He's like 24, right? Here's my thing. And I'm just talking from how I feel. If you have kids and you've been married, you've had this whole life, and now all of a sudden you're going back to a 24-year-old
00:11:43
Speaker
boy because I'm not going to even call that. No, that's not a man. That's not a man. You know what I mean? I feel like you do you, but I'm just confused. Okay.
00:11:54
Speaker
My turn. So where are you done? Heather's talking a bit to hit this one. I'm just confused. So I think part of the reason why she hasn't ever come out with anyone that she was dating or entertaining is because her divorce literally just finalized after two and a half years like last week.
00:12:14
Speaker
So it's just not a good look. I mean, even if she wasn't a public figure, so to speak, or didn't have anyone who was interested in her life and her relationships, it could present a problem. So you add that layer to it. I think that's probably why she really didn't introduce the world to anyone that she was dating or hanging out with. But she's never done that.
00:12:39
Speaker
That's why I think it's- Well, she's been married for a long time. But even before him, she was never public. She's been private about it, right? Yeah. I don't follow her enough, but like- Yeah, me either. I do. My question is- That's why I think it's weird. I think part of it is, to your point then, Hailey, because I didn't-
00:12:56
Speaker
I don't really follow her, and I haven't kept up with her, really, ever. Yeah, exactly. I love her. No, so do I. That's why I think it's weird. That's why I know that it's weird. Well, she has kids now, right? So before she was married, she didn't. And again, I know that her divorce was just finally finalized, officially, in the books.
00:13:18
Speaker
I think that we as a society, my opinion, no one bats an eye when a 37-year-old or a 39-year-old guy dates a 24-year-old woman. And all of a sudden, it's just like complete uproar and we're calling him a child and we're saying all these things when I was planning a wedding at 24. And for me, because this is for me, I understand that
00:13:45
Speaker
it might be jarring to some people, but for me, I'm like, why is it news that she's dating a 24-year-old instead of the headline being Kristen Cavallari like hard launches her relationship? The narrative is, Kristen Cavallari is too old and she's dating a 24-year-old.
00:14:04
Speaker
I don't think that that's it. Well, it is because we just got done saying that it is. You did. You just said that he's a child and that he's just out of college. But I think that men also progress a lot slower than women. I feel like girls at 24 compared to guys at 24 are completely different.
00:14:24
Speaker
I'm just talking about sheer narrative. To my point, I think it's because she doesn't ever post stuff like that. I think that's the bigger story that no one's talking about. Why is she posting like that? The only stories that ever were out were from tabloids.
00:14:40
Speaker
It was never her doing it. I think that's probably exactly why. She's like, I want to take back my narrative. I want to take back control of my story. I want to be in control of how people perceive my relationship and perceive me now, instead of allowing the tabloids of the paparazzi to be like, oh, exclusive footage of Kristin Cavallari, a mom of three with her boyfriend, where she should be home. Fuck that.
00:15:07
Speaker
And I'm not saying she's wrong by any means. Of course not. That's not what I'm saying. I don't think you are either. But I think her incentive, again, my opinion, maybe she's switching it up because she's like... What I will say though is that I do think she took back her control of the narrative by starting that podcast because she's able to tell her story. And so maybe that was kind of like the under
00:15:32
Speaker
like force of being able to be like, yeah, this is my story. So maybe that is it. But for me personally, because I have like, I've loved her for years, like I've always been like a huge fan of her. And like, I've always like, honestly, really related with her. Like I like, like I listen to her podcasts, I like, I respect what she says. But
00:15:51
Speaker
Listening to what she says and the way that she protects names is why I thought it seemed a little out of left field. I think he also is, you know, he's like TikTok famous or whatever. To me, that was the most interesting part. He is definitely on the verge, like the tipping point of getting more notoriety and kind of making a name for himself. Obviously, he's easy on the eyes. Like, girl, go off, like I say. No, he's so hot.
00:16:17
Speaker
I was like, good on you. Okay, girl, I see you. To me, that was the most interesting part. But again, who am I? To say like, oh, he's just doing this for that because Lord knows women do it every day all the time. Of course, yeah. Men are the same way and most of them are just chomping at the bit to be able to do it. Sprinkle, sprinkle. I over the past,
00:16:44
Speaker
five years have pretty much only been with guys younger than me. Really? Yeah. Even a guy that was like four or five years younger than me felt young.
00:16:58
Speaker
Mm hmm. Like there were things that he would say. And I'd be like, I don't know the reference and like vice versa. Like they're within five years between girl and guy. There is an age gap. I'm just going to say there is an age gap. And so my question is, OK, Kristen Cavallari, Godspeed, like I know when you get out of a divorce, things go zero to unhinged very quickly.
Perceptions of Aging
00:17:25
Speaker
And it just so happens that she has a major internet following. So a lot of people are going to follow along for that moment, you know, whatever. Is this her forever man? I doubt it. But like, is this fun for right now? Yes, absolutely. Have fun. Do what you need to do on the internet. Prove people wrong. Whatever it is. My question is, if today you're a single, would you feel like you have enough
00:17:50
Speaker
in common with the 24 year old to be attracted to them physically and emotionally? No, absolutely not. I don't think so either. And that's like my question. I'm like, what was the last time you guys met a 24 year old because it's, whoa. I feel weird. Like I, okay. I don't feel like a predator. I will say this. I do think it depends. Honestly, where in the US you meet that person in LA, absolutely absolutely not. But I think.
00:18:18
Speaker
Maybe if you met that person somewhere else and didn't know their age right away, maybe. Yeah. Okay.
00:18:26
Speaker
They presented older. Yeah. So my brother, now he lives in Scottsdale, and every once in a while, if I happen to be up in the area, I'll meet him out. I'll be like, yeah, let's grab a drink. Okay, what are you doing? Who are you with your friends? So I actually feel like I have kind of been around- No, you know. You know better than the rest of us. Yeah, like 23, 24, 25-year-olds, not because of they're in my social circle or setting or doing the same things that I'm doing, but through my brother.
00:18:54
Speaker
I think that until you know that that's their age, you're kind of just like, okay, well, they're old enough to be here, and who's to really say? Most people when I'm out don't think that I'm 36, and they sure as hell never ... They're shocked. First thing I do, especially after a few drinks, I'm like, look at my kids. They're just like, what? More times than not, their head explodes. They're just like, there's no freaking way you have a 10-year-old.
00:19:20
Speaker
So I think that you're not always going to know if you're in the presence of a 20 something, 23, 24, 25 year old, when we talk about, and when we're talking about maturity, physically, emotionally, intellectually, can you connect and want to be with someone to reference this Kristen situation? For me, probably not emotionally and intellectually, but physically? I don't know.
00:19:49
Speaker
I did ask that. I did ask physically, emotionally. Sometimes to me, I'm like, that still looks like a little boy. Yeah. And again, still looks like a teenager to me where I'm like,
00:20:01
Speaker
It depends. I do think that emotionally and maybe not always intellectually, but definitely emotionally and just the maturity wise, it would probably be pretty hard for me. But again, we're just making blanket statements.
00:20:20
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. I have another question for you guys. Yeah. We're all currently 36 for like approximately like two weeks to 12 more days. We got 12 days until Heather turns 37. Then I'm right behind her. And then Haley is six months after that. So ladies, do you feel 36? No, not at all. Like I still feel like mid twenties and that's actually what people usually guess my age.
00:20:50
Speaker
I get mid twenties all the time. I don't know. Heather, do you, Heather, do you feel 36?
00:20:55
Speaker
I don't feel 36. In the morning, I feel 36 when I wake up. Three working kids and I've had too much wine, yeah, but I don't feel 36. I feel 31, like 32. Yeah, like I feel, there are times where I feel way younger, like certain setting, if I've had a great night's sleep and I'm like, you know, I don't know, doing something that I really enjoy, I definitely feel younger. And then there are days where I'm just like, wow, okay, like,
00:21:25
Speaker
Hmm 40 like this is a new perspective because not for me I try though in those moments of like Oh man, or like if the Botox is wearing off or whatever the case may be the other day I had a real humbling experience with my son I was in the kitchen and he's doing homework at the kitchen island and I'm pretty great I've been great like I've talked about this for a while like I started turning gray when I got married at 25
00:21:50
Speaker
No. So sometimes I just let my hair grow, like go for a few weeks, sometimes like a few months. I'm just kind of like, meh, whatever, like it, I don't really care that much. I haven't had my hair done in a while. And so my hair was up and like you could see like my salt and pepper, if you will, on the side and Barrett looks at me and he's like, mom, he's like, your hair. I was like, yeah, like preoccupied. I'm like, yeah, what's up, buddy? And he's just like,
00:22:14
Speaker
It looks old. And I was like, wait, my hair looks old. Like you mean it looks like dirty or you mean because it's gray. And he's just like, yeah. He's like, it's gray. And I was like, yeah, I'm gray, buddy. And he's just like, oh.
00:22:34
Speaker
He's like, but you're not old. I wouldn't say that I'm on the younger side for kids' age, but I definitely, for whatever reason, I don't know if it's a school or what, but I do think that I'm, I look maybe younger than some of the other parents. And so I think for him, it was kind of just this like, like he'll go to some of his friend's house. My mom and dad are at the same age as my friend's parents. Yeah. You know? And so I just think for him in that moment, he's like, but you're not like,
00:23:07
Speaker
It never occurred to me that I was ever going to be this age. Like, it never occurred to me when I was younger that this could happen. And now I wake up every day and I'm like, okay, I'm 36. Soon I'm going to be 37. Like, what does that even mean?
00:23:23
Speaker
means nothing. You know, it's, it's a great question. Like, what does that even mean? Right? I think when Jay-Z came out and said like, what, 40 is the new 30 or 30 is the new 20. I don't remember what it was. Cause we were like, I wasn't thinking about it at the time. I'm like, yeah, whatever. We're like 22. We're like, have fun being an asshole. Okay. But I do think like there is something to be said about like how you act your age. I have a cousin who she's like the fun cousin.
00:23:51
Speaker
And I always just kind of looked up to her like her spirit like she is so just like fun and like she's like probably 20 years older than me. Like she is just like the life of the party like just fine like and so I don't think of her as old at all. It kind of like messes with your mind because you're like fuck they actually are aging but like you don't feel like they're getting older.
00:24:15
Speaker
Do you think that your mind telling your body that you're a certain age has any effect on it? Absolutely. Could. Yeah. I have some scientific studies for you guys. So in the nineties, there's a woman named Ellen Langer and she did an experiment where she took people who were elderly. So they were in the like seventies or
00:24:40
Speaker
I think I'm really bad at reading as everyone on this podcast has heard. So I don't write down notes. I'm like, I tried memorize and then I'm like, cause I, I will not read. I'm going to save myself the embarrassment of reading. Okay. So I love you and I see by the way, everybody's laughing that you guys agree. All right. I can't read either. And when I read, I read out loud, like worse than Heather's kids. Okay. So, and I'm.
00:25:05
Speaker
middle age. Okay. Anyways, in the nineties, she did this scientific experiment where she took people who were elderly and who were probably in their late sixties to seventies and she took them. No, she designed the experiment. She didn't take them. She took them where? Rachel, where did she take them? No, she didn't steal any of the people. Okay.
00:25:34
Speaker
Let me clarify. She didn't take them anywhere. Maybe I should have read. Maybe there are some times where I should read. All right, someone give Heather the article. Jesus Christ. I'll be the resident reader. Email it over. Jesus. No, OK, but Ellen Langer, a lot less drag. Not, no. All right, I see you, NYU. Perfect.
00:26:04
Speaker
Excellent. Anyway, so there's this woman, Ellen Langer, she designed this experiment with elderly people where she physically put them into a different year. So she basically took them back to the 50s where everything that they did during their day, their surroundings, everything was basically they lived like they were 45, right?
00:26:30
Speaker
And after so many weeks, she went back and looked at everything and there was significant changes in their physiology that basically D age them.
00:26:44
Speaker
like set the clock back where they were starting to match the way that they were living, right? So instead of living like a 75 year old, they went and they're living on their own. And she specifically says that there were no mirrors, so they couldn't physically look at themselves and look in the mirror and say, Okay, that's me. I know how I've looked my entire life. I'm 76 today, like they couldn't
00:27:05
Speaker
physically look at themselves to like look in the mirror and say, I'm old. So removing that element of looking at yourself and taking evaluation, and just living your life as if you were younger, actually have physiological changes on them, where they started to become younger.
00:27:23
Speaker
like the things that changed were their outlook. She's like, I want you to take on this mindset that you're maybe you're 70, but now you're 45. You're pretending to be a different age. The study is purely the effects of your mindset on your body, right? Like it can there be physical changes if you live your life like you aren't
00:27:45
Speaker
Okay, so the reason why I bring it up is because I think that the 30s are really interesting because this is the time where everyone's lives diverge, right? And so what it means to be 36 is truly unique to everyone.
Diverging Life Paths in the 30s
00:28:02
Speaker
During our 20s, we all have these milestones that we hit that are pretty congruent with our peers, right? Right, based on age. Yes, exactly. We go to college, and then we move somewhere new. We get our first job. We start to live on our own maybe for the first time, get our first apartment. And then really beyond that, everyone chooses something different. If you get married, if you have kids, everyone's paths become unique within your 30s.
00:28:32
Speaker
I find that endlessly fascinating. I think that this study that I was just telling you guys about is really interesting because I look around at some of my friends and I'm like, I don't think that they're living like 36. And I think that that might be one of the reasons why other people don't look at us and identify us as 36. Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
00:28:56
Speaker
not feel like something internally is happening, like my liver is the best it's ever been. I still have a 25 year old liver, but I do think that we can think ourselves young though. 100%. I think it's how you feel, you know? Yeah. It's how you feel. I think your environment. How do you think? It is. I don't know if it's how you feel, it's how you think. If you think that you're young, then you are- Or you think you're too old to be doing something, or you're too young to be doing something, right?
00:29:27
Speaker
I've... Personal restraints. You're so right. It's personal restraints. It really is. To your point, Rachel, I think you make a really great point that I've actually never even thought about. Kind of like at 18, up until 18, you're all kind of doing the same thing, right? Like your peers, you're all doing the same thing. And then maybe there's this drop off at 18, and then there's another drop off at around 22. And then I think there's a really big drop off at around like 20, between like 28 and 30.
00:29:50
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I was about to say like 28s when things, people start moving into different categories. Right. Yeah. Because you've had like a time where it's like, whether it's grad school or just establishing yourself in a career or like where you just like in limbo for most of your 20s and now you're like,
00:30:08
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I'm almost 30, now what am I going to do? It's like this. But I think like your 30s is where everything starts to manifest, right? So everything that you post 18 when you graduate high school, every decision that you've ever made, it all starts to manifest and cause results in your 30s, right? And so everyone's life starts to look different. Is anything better or worse? No.
00:30:32
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Everyone makes their own choices. And I do think, though, that some people's choices do land them on the side of the scale where they present as older than they are, which is that's not a bad thing. Like, that's just that's the beauty of the 30s. Yeah, I mean, I'm we both had like crazy life situations, me and Rachel. And like, I think I don't regret where I am now. Like, I'm
00:31:01
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happy where I am and I think like everything was supposed to happen the way that it was and I feel like if we didn't have the mindset we do like about age like we could be really fucking depressed right now. I do think it really comes down to like how you
00:31:18
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view life. I think it has so much to do with how you feel about the decisions that you've made, you know, and how you feel about where you are at in your life. Yeah. Because there's some people who, you know, some people are like, Oh, you're 40 years old, and you're getting a divorce. And it's just like, that's a total failure. And then you have other people who are like, Oh, you're 40 years old, and you've never been married. And like, they think that's a total failure. And, and I think so much of it has to do with
00:31:43
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with what you want for yourself and understanding that there really can be like a silver lining to wherever you are at in life and you dictate how you want to live and the way that you feel about your life. And what brings you happiness? And circling back to what I said though, no one's choices are good or bad. It's because you have full
00:32:05
Speaker
autonomy over your own life and your own choices and whatever makes you happy as you as your own decision. Right. And that's what's gonna live your life for you. No one knows for you. And you're not living anyone else's correct. And that's what's cool about the 30s. Every day we go through lives thinking like, Oh my gosh, I'm in our situation. We're all 36. Like, but I haven't done this or but I'm too old to do this or I shouldn't be doing this or I need
Online Beauty Standards
00:32:34
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to be doing this. And it's like,
00:32:35
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Says fucking who? Yeah. Yeah. No, you're completely right. Yeah. I'm happy. I'm happier at 36. That's the goal. I'm happier at 36, not having met anybody's expectations. 1000%. That's amazing. I'm so happy where I am in my life right now.
00:33:01
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. I want to take it back to the beauty standard stuff. Wasn't it so fun to be 28 and like the most beautiful you're ever going to be in your entire life and just like look at yourself and you're like, y'all look good tonight. I look like that. I looked like that. And then the next day it all starts going downhill.
00:33:21
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I don't even feel like you truly appreciate it. You don't ever appreciate it because I'll look back at pictures when I was like 22, 23. Last year. At that age, the body dysmorphia just being like, oh, I remember thinking like, oh, I need
00:33:41
Speaker
more abs and like I need to be like, you know, whatever and it was also part of like my job, but just like, I'm like, what in the world like this is, what do why do we do this to ourselves? No, and this is so crazy. We are so lucky because we had the opportunity we had the luxury of physically becoming the most beautiful we're ever going to be in our lives.
00:34:02
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before the internet really started to tell all young women you need to do that. Your face is supposed to be like this ambiguous face shape that can be erased and you have to do nose filler and cheek filler and chin filler and Botox and lift your eyebrow.
00:34:19
Speaker
And your face has to be this perfect ratio. We had the luxury of peaking to be our top level of beauty that we'll ever be without those pressures of the internet telling us that actually the most beautiful you're ever going to be is ugly. But if you look at some of the most beautiful movie stars, they have not done that shit to their faces. I mean, they've obviously done work here and there.
00:34:45
Speaker
Look at Angelina Jolie. Look at Buckied Jessica Alba. Look at Cali Berry. Look at the people who actually, they still look like themselves. No, but they started as the most naturally beautiful women in the world. Let's look at someone like Jennifer Lawrence, right? She does not have conventionally beautiful features. I'm pretty sure she just did a lower, like a mid-face neck facelift, and that's why everyone's like, why does she look like the way she does?
00:35:14
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She's obviously had work, right? Yeah. But they're like, of course, Cameron Diaz, who was once literally the most beautiful woman in the world who decided like, I'm just going to let myself age like mass respect to her because Gwyneth Paltrow. Right. Exactly. Like, Hello, Pamela Anderson. I think about that sometimes that women who had like the most epic beauty, like they were the beauty standard. Yeah. And then they say, you know what?
00:35:41
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I had that experience, like I'm good. I don't need to be chasing that for the rest of my life.
00:35:47
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I'm open to experiencing everything that the future holds. Yeah, but then the Kylie Jenner is ruined that entire. To circle back to how we even got onto this, the younger girls, they do not know what it's like to reach your peak of beauty naturally without everyone telling you, oh, you need to fix this. Your lips need to be proportional. You need to do all this. And it's such a fucking shame because I'm on TikTok and I see the shit that they post.
00:36:17
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They're never happy. I see these girls struggling to meet beauty standards and I'm just like, whoa, like.
00:36:27
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I'm starting to feel like the older sister, like the auntie that's like, I wish that I could give you my mindset that I had when I was 24 where I'd never even thought I would hit 30. Like I'd never occurred to me that I could be 30 and it could never occur to me that I was going to age. And you just thought that you were so like good enough, you know?
00:36:51
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oh i thought i was still with your insecurities the coolest cat in the fucking club right and like no one no one online was there to tell you that you didn't have main character energy yeah and that it wasn't you know that like yeah it's such a fucking shame that
00:37:09
Speaker
Like these beautiful young girls who, they already think that they're aging and I'm just like, girl, you haven't even hit your peak beauty yet. And you already are like worried about your wrinkles and your aging. Like that's such a, such a fucking change to me. And I hate that we've built this, this, this, this, wow. I'm like, did I just have an eight?
00:37:32
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I hate, let me run that one back. I hate that we've built this society for these girls where they don't have the freedom to be who they are. They don't have the freedom to just be medium, ugly, to beautiful. I agree. Jesus.
TikTok Age Guessing Game
00:38:04
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Okay, so there is this trend on TikTok right now where women of kind of all age are, they're filming videos and they're asking TikTok, how old do you think I am? And there are some women who are our age, middle age or whatever, who are posting videos and they're getting absolutely annihilated with people saying that they look like they're 50 or 60.
00:38:17
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I'm just kidding.
00:38:28
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So today we will be talking to Elizabeth who is a participant in this challenge. She, I think about two weeks ago, she posted a video of herself saying, okay, tick tock, here we are. How old do you think I am? And she happens to be 38, which she revealed later on, but a lot of people on tick tock were saying that she looks 50 or 60. So we're going to have a conversation with her today. Welcome Elizabeth.
00:38:54
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Yeah, thank you for having me. So as we've been discussing, you did the Guess My Age TikTok challenge. What were your expectations when you first posted that video?
00:39:06
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I only had like 4,000 followers and my videos were only getting like 300 to maybe 800 views. So I didn't expect much. I just thought that most of the people responding would be the people that already follow me. And the video now has 1.2 million views. Wow. Crazy. That's a lot of people. Yeah. And there's like 14,000 comments.
00:39:35
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Obviously the people in the comments did not guess your correct age, which you revealed is 38, correct? Yeah. Yeah. And so when people were guessing your age, when it started to like pick up steam and you were starting to get more comments, what were your initial thoughts and feelings? It got me down for
00:39:55
Speaker
like a day or two, because a lot of the comments were pretty nasty. I got a lot of comments about, you know, when I said that I was 38, it was like, Oh, must have been a rough life. And, you know, show us your ID, where's your birth certificate? Are you using the age filter? Things like I'm not attractive, and that I need to lose weight. I got a lot of comments like that from a lot of women.
00:40:23
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Wow. Yeah. Majority of the comments are women. Do you resonate well with the age 38 or do you feel younger or older? How old do you feel, I guess is what I'm getting at. I feel like I mostly look my age, but as far as the way I feel just in my body, I feel younger.
00:40:49
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Me too. All of us are about to turn 37 and I'm like, internally, I feel like I'm 25. Yeah, same.
00:41:11
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You posted the video and people were being less than kind, but I'm guessing there are some people who were kind. What were the kind comments like?
00:41:23
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Um, the kind ones were, you know, you don't look like you're in your fifties. Um, you're beautiful. Like don't change your appearance. When I did my transformation, I got a lot of comments that were like, you're beautiful now, but you were also beautiful then. And I've gained more followers and, um, I got a lot of like private messages and people just were reaching out wanting to make sure that I was okay.
00:41:52
Speaker
Yeah, that's really nice. Yeah, just based on everything that they saw in the comments, they were a little concerned and wanted to reassure me that I'm doing okay. Yeah, I mean, I had a video go viral at the end of last year about something embarrassing that happened to me. I got stood up on a date and it got
00:42:15
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You know, almost 3 million views and people in the comments, like men in the comments were like, what's wrong with you? Like you're not even attractive. No wonder he didn't show up. People would be like, oh, he walked in the door and saw you and walked out immediately. People can be absolutely brutal on the Internet.
00:42:34
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Yeah, I am for no reason. I know that now. Well, and I just think like when it really boils down to it, like no one's ever gonna be everyone's cup of tea. Like no matter what, like there are 7 billion people in the world. And you're never gonna please all of them. Like no matter what you do, you could be the most perfect person and someone's gonna have something to say. You'll find I mean, someone can be talking about something as mundane as like washing their car or
00:43:05
Speaker
you know, they're cooking potatoes and they use olive oil and all of a sudden the comments just take a completely negative turn like, you should be using avocado oil. Why are you using oil? Why are you? And it's like, what is that pot you're using? And you know, it's you should and it's like,
00:43:22
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I'm cooking potatoes. I'm washing my car. Everyone feels so emboldened on their phones behind their computer screen and it's crazy how negative people can be about the silliest things.
00:43:37
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Yes, but in Elizabeth's case though, she did participate in a trend, asking for critique here. You did open yourself up for critique here. You're saying that you didn't have any followers, so you were not expecting it to get many views and you were not expecting it to pick up steam. Just from what I saw from the comments and
00:44:00
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the comments that you had replied to, it looks like the majority of people were saying that you looked 50. Do you? In my 50s, 60s, even 60s. Wow. Yeah. And so I mean, in my opinion, you do not look 60. But I think that how we look and how we dress is
00:44:22
Speaker
obviously very like regional. Do you think in your community that you look older or that you identify with like an older age? Or do you feel like you just fit in with all the other like 38 year olds that you interact with? So when I go out in public, I definitely get guessed that I'm younger, because my husband is 52. And people don't put the two and two together that he's my husband. Yeah.
00:44:51
Speaker
So I resonate more with people older than me as far as like communication wise, stuff like that. I don't really hang out with a lot of people, but when I do, it is usually, I guess, you know, probably 50 plus. So maybe that's where I get some of my mannerisms or, you know, the way I talk from.
00:45:13
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as you mentioned, or as I've seen on your TikTok, all these comments inspired you to start making changes to your appearance. Yeah. Can you like walk us through that? Like what your thought process was there? Or is this something that you'd thought about previously? And this was the catalyst? Or was this something like you had never considered you were fine with how you looked previously? And now this has kind of changed your mind? Well, I did hate my hair. I had not been able to get my hair done for about six months.
00:45:43
Speaker
So as soon as I got back home, I booked my hair appointment. So I already had the hair appointment scheduled, but I was originally planning on cutting it about this length, but also I was going to do highlights because that's generally what I kind of lean towards.
00:46:01
Speaker
But I did have so many comments that told me to go a little bit darker that I did change my mind. And I thought, you know what? I don't have highlights right now. So this would be a good time to just try it and see if I like it. And I do like it.
00:46:16
Speaker
I think the darker color suits you actually. It looks good. Yeah, it does. Thank you. So beyond hair though, I know that you mentioned you wanted to try Botox or other injectables or cosmetic procedures. Is that something that you had previously thought about or was this kind of putting all that on the map for
Skincare Journey & Future Plans
00:46:33
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you?
00:46:33
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I have had Botox before, but it's been over a year. I am an esthetician, so I've worked with plastic surgeons. I've worked in medical spas and stuff like that. So while being in the industry, I definitely have wanted to get my lips done, but A, I've been afraid and B, it's expensive. Yeah.
00:46:54
Speaker
So I just never pulled the trigger on it. However, because I got so many comments on, you know, oh, it's your lips that age you. I was like, you know what? I've been wanting to do this and I'm going to go ahead and just do it now. So I booked an appointment and I'm getting my lips done on April 12th. Oh, wow. It's not that bad. I've done it. Okay.
00:47:20
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I think I'm the only person in this conversation that has never done it before. I'm too scared. I don't know. It's not that bad. Well, I think my opinion is if it's what is going to make you feel better, then do that or all the things or absolutely nothing. But you got to remember that a lot of these people and a lot of the comments are just don't let it get to your head. I mean, any more than maybe it might
00:47:48
Speaker
have already, you're beautiful. And like we were all saying, how we feel in our age is so much about the inside. And if you feel like you're 38, if you feel like you're 25, then carry that energy into your everyday, not what some random who is operating under a fake handle has to say about someone he doesn't know. Yeah, dude, the anonymous assholes on the internet, are you kidding me?
00:48:15
Speaker
Yeah. Seriously. It's so terrible. It is. I had someone tell me to put a paper bag over my head. I saw one. I did see that. I thought you handled that very well. You did. I would've done the same thing. I put the paper bag on my head. Yeah. I mean, like a boss. Yeah.
00:48:35
Speaker
So do you think that this experience has changed the way you view your age in any way? Or has this been purely like a physical thing for you? It's definitely made me more aware that even though I feel young on the inside, I actually am aging on the outside.
00:48:55
Speaker
And I struggle with a lot of mental health things. So over the last, you know, probably a couple of years, I just have not been taking care of myself very well. And this has definitely, I had so many people suggest skincare, but it's like, I have all the good stuff. I just have not been using it.
00:49:17
Speaker
But since that video went viral, I have been really trying to make it a point to get back into my skincare regimen. I want to go ahead and I have a spa in my house. And so I want to go ahead and start to work on myself more because I have everything. I've got all the tools and equipment. I just let myself go.
00:49:41
Speaker
I don't think you've let yourself go. I mean, obviously I don't know you from the past just met, but I think that it's like people who work at a gym, right? And you talk to someone who works at a gym and is like, I come here every day and I have it worked out in three weeks when we have access or when in your case you work with people's skin. I mean, this is your profession. It can be easy to just make sure that you're taking care of your clients and not really focusing on yourself because you live it every day. Yeah.
00:50:09
Speaker
I think finding inner happiness also radiates throughout the outside. Finding yourself and not necessarily focusing so much on the outside, it does show on the outside. Whenever you're actually happy on the inside, that really does make a huge difference.
00:50:31
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And if doing those things make you happy, then great. And if not, then that's amazing too, you know? Yeah. It's just enough water. I was going to say like, whoo, internal happiness. Maybe y'all get there. Like, I think everyone has their struggles. Uh, so Elizabeth.
00:50:50
Speaker
Do you have anything you want to say to the haters? Yes, yes. Go, girl, go. Can I swear? Oh, absolutely. Yes, yes. Absolutely. Go for it. OK, yeah. Fuck off. Get the fuck off my page. Go somewhere else with your miserable selves.
00:51:14
Speaker
100%, yeah. Standing ovation if I was- Drop the mic, drop the mic. Honestly, I think that a lot of people on the internet, like a lot of the kids, they don't realize.
00:51:30
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This is coming for you. Like your 30s, they sneak up on you like one day you're 27, you don't have a care in the world. And the next day you wake up and you're like, wait a second. Where'd that decade go?
00:51:46
Speaker
The years get away from you very quickly. Aging is a blessing, I think. Just remember that it's so easy for someone to just take to their phone and unfortunately it seems like people want to make negative comments and it's easier for them to make negative comments than it is for them to say something positive.
00:52:03
Speaker
My hope for you is that you start to feel great about yourself and that you don't allow all of those comments to really affect you in real life on a day-to-day basis. If you want to do the Botox, do it. If you want to do the lips, do it.
Top Eight Products & Experiences
00:52:20
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I don't know. Go back to highlights or don't. Just make sure you're doing it because you want to do it.
00:52:25
Speaker
Yeah. Thank you. We got you. At the end of the day, what people see on the outside, the superficial stuff is really, it doesn't mean anything. It really doesn't. I hope that those thousand TikTok followers that you got from this challenge or whatever, those are people who
00:52:49
Speaker
genuinely have your best interests at heart and who are going to be there to support you and follow your journey because people on the internet are assholes. We got to protect ourselves from them sometimes. Absolutely. Well, Elizabeth, thank you so much for joining us. Yes. Thanks for having me. All right. Should we get into the top eight? Let's go.
00:53:11
Speaker
Number one is the book do nothing. A lot of you guys know that I've been trying to read 10 books this year. It's already mid March and I'm having trouble getting through just one. I'm not gonna lie.
00:53:24
Speaker
I am going to put this book onto the top eight, although I don't think it's a good book. I do think that the subject matter that she talks about is important. The whole thing is about sort of workaholic culture in the modern age and how we have a hard time separating ourselves from work and that currently we are trying to become more efficient workers, but really a lot of the stuff that we do to be efficient makes us inefficient.
00:53:54
Speaker
So I do think that nonfiction needs subheadings. I'm just gonna throw that one out there. This book has a lot of longer chapters that has no organization where she's listing a lot of different papers and studies and one paragraph to the next will have contradictory studies back to back. And if she used up subheadings, she would have more space to write liberally about her analysis instead of just
00:54:24
Speaker
regurgitating facts of stuff that other people found. So this is turning more into a ramp than a top eight. Oh, this is kind of like a, uh, a critique part of reading and writing is critique, right? So when I got that random book, my mom goes, well, Rachel's part of that book club. Yeah. So literally knows because the podcast. Correct. Anyway, do you read the book though? It is interesting if this is your sort of thing. Number two. Okay. Well, I'll just be in service level real quick.
00:54:55
Speaker
Okay. Mine, I actually couldn't figure out the charger for this, but I got it back up and running. What? Yes. It's a red light mask. That's great. I love that. Dr. Dennis Gross. You should say it often. Yeah. Every night. You should do a whole episode with it on. Three minutes. You can't, you can't. It'll burn your face off. Red is for like collagen. This one's for, I think like getting rid of like pimples and
00:55:25
Speaker
Whatever. And then this is the hybrid. Oh, okay. Do you know that red light helps your hair grow? In that case. Yeah. I've seen on TikTok a lot of people putting on the top of their head to help make the hair grow. No, but I've read a lot, a lot, a lot of reviews on those different like masks. And this is by far has the best one. Yeah. You can feel it. It's Dr. Dennis Gross. I love that. Don't believe on that one.
00:55:53
Speaker
Oh my gosh, could you imagine that would be awful. So along the same lines of, I guess, aging and preventative measures, mine is actually Glowscreen by
00:56:08
Speaker
It is, it like kind of gives you that like same Hollywood flawless filter, but without the flashback. So if you like to be a Dewey girl, but like not too Dewey and it's 40 SPF and it just, I don't know, I love it. I'm in the sun. I feel like it's like we're now getting into March in Arizona. So it's kind of hard to escape the sun. So if you're going to put anything as a base, like it definitely has to have SPF.
00:56:37
Speaker
I use that too, I love it. Number four, sfseconds.com is a website. Basically, this girl is doing these pop ups where you can go and sell your clothes physically in person, and you get 100% of all the money. It's in San Francisco and in LA. If you have any clothes that you want to sell, you can go and do that. I want to. Yeah, instead of selling it on Depop, you can sell in person. I'm down.
00:57:03
Speaker
SF seconds.com. I'll link it obviously in the show notes, but, um, if you're in San Francisco or LA and you have clothes you want to sell, this seems like an excellent opportunity. Number five, number five, I fell for an Instagram ad and I like actually really wanted to try it. It's called a high smile. It's like purple shampoo for your teeth. Well, cause I have really sensitive teeth and I,
00:57:29
Speaker
can't do the crests, whitening strips, or that really bothers my teeth. I'm not going to lie, it kind of works. You're feeling bright and white. That's great. I definitely notice a difference, but with all of those products, one thing I will say, whatever they say, double it. Okay. Good to know. All right. At number six, it's actually a brand that just showed at Newark Fashion Week. I've heard it
00:57:57
Speaker
pronounced both ways, so bat Shiva, bat Shiva, but they just did their fashion show and used all women over the age of 40. So age inclusive, like along the same lines of just inclusion and not really tapping into, you know, the 16, 17 year olds trying to make them look more mature to sell their products and be more relatable. They do dresses, they do,
00:58:25
Speaker
a ton of different garments, but I just love that they, all of their models who walked in New York, um, a few, I guess a few weeks ago, we're all over the age of 40. And they're one of those few brands that continue to push inclusivity. Um, and they actually have amazing quality. So Bathsheba, Bathsheba, Bathsheba, Bathsheba. I don't know. It'll be linked below. Number seven, Haley and Mike's not working.
00:58:56
Speaker
It was fun. Welcome back. My last one is just a girls trip because I feel like that weekend away, just like going to a different city with your friend and like just exploring like a new area and just kind of like letting loose and just like we just had such a good time. And that was so like liberating. Like I remember like getting on the plane. I was so fucking depressed leaving.
00:59:24
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I was like, that was the best trip ever. Miami, May, everybody, pack your bags, we're going. Round two, girls' trip. Make more time for your friends. That's my number seven.
00:59:38
Speaker
So number eight, it's actually a highlighter, again, on the same thing of products, for me at least, products for mature skin, a mature audience. It's called NuStix Illuminati, like the N-A-U-G-H-T-Y Illuminati. And I just feel like it does increase. It's a really great highlight and it shows up really beautiful in natural light and in photographs.
01:00:07
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Do you guys have a V audacity of the week? Fucking Haley Baldwin's sister throwing the two stamp on at the bartender. Oh, yeah, that's the audacity. Like, how do you even think of that? Like, you know, using her brain because you know that guys are what she was using something. Think about what men are afraid of.
01:00:31
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oh yeah tampons are the number one like menses yeah if i was a man and a woman throws her menses in a tampon it hits me in the face i'm gonna be like
01:00:41
Speaker
You could pull out a bomb and a tampon and they would... A grenade and a tampon. They're from the tampons. No. What the fuck happened? That's so gross. That's bold. It's beyond. I have so many questions. Were you in the bathroom?
01:01:06
Speaker
I thought when I read it, I thought it sounded like she just ripped it out and threw it at him. Like, was she wearing a skirt then? Like, I'm just like, I need answers. And if she ripped it out, it was through it. Like a say to somebody that you have to be like, you know what? Last call. Last call. That's fucking it. You know what? That one was the cake.
01:01:33
Speaker
I'm sorry. That's wild, actually. It's so gross. To be a fly on the wall there, like if I was there, I'd be like, if you saw that! The way that I read the story, it didn't sound like she'd like had it in her bag, like a used tampon. Like it sounded like she ripped it out and flung it at that man. Which is honestly like admirable. No! No!
01:02:02
Speaker
What are we advocating for? This is not admirable. I'm not advocating for it. No, it's not. Okay. Admirable was the wrong word, but it's kind of just like kind of admirable. Like I never, what was he doing to her that she thought she needed to rip out her tampon and throw it at him? If you got to that point, like holy fucking motherfucking shit. Something's wrong. What did you do to her? I want to ask, we have so many questions.
01:02:28
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That's a great one. I think there's so much to be uncovered here. I think a few things. What brought her to that point? Clearly something bad enough. Drugs probably, I'm guessing.
01:02:44
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Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't feel like, in my wildest dreams, I can't, and I've done some things. But like, it had to be a family, it had to be a family thing. Probably. My opinion. I'm sorry, you could say whatever you want about any one of my children. My first response is not to me. You know what? You don't know, you don't know. You might be unhinged in about 10 years. No, I feel like I know, like I've had some interesting encounters.
01:03:14
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in the last month with people who I thought were very close to me. Heather, I can just throw your table. I still never thought to be like... That was crazy. I'm sorry. That is crazy. I even think spitting on someone or in someone's direction is so disgusting. This is a whole new level of... This is not like there's something going on there with her. Yeah. That's some serious audacity.
01:03:43
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Okay. That's crazy. I'm not sure. This is gross to be honest. I was in the line of fire of that. You just got hit by accident. There's like a clot on it. Friendly fire. Friendly fire.
01:03:59
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shrapnel. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's like goop. Like if you meant to hit the bartender and you just hit like an innocent bystander. No, someone's drink. No. No. My eyes. My eyes switching because I'm so stressed.
01:04:38
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That is the fucking that is the audacity
01:04:45
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That's pretty bad. To me, there's nothing that merits that. That's biological warfare. I'm sorry. It's probably, aren't they saying they're going to get her for assault, right? They're like trying. 100%. Didn't she go to jail? She says a mugshot. Yeah, that's not acceptable. I'm sorry. You might have started a movement though. I'm not saying in a good way, but I'm saying that I could see some unhinged Florida people.
01:05:11
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You know what, you're actually not wrong as someone who is a Floridian myself. Yeah, there's you wait. You just wait. That's so gnarly. Can't wait to go back to Florida with you guys. She just, she opened up the fucking door and now we're all going to have to watch it with that. That's be a worry on the back of our minds. Watch the skirts. Watch the fucking skirts.
01:05:32
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Well, anyways, on that note, thanks for joining us this week as we defend the age and tampons and everything in between. Um, we really hope you come back next week. It'll be better. We get better every week sort of, you know, two steps back. Yeah, you know, but it's a, it's progression. We have some juicy stuff coming.
01:05:59
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Yeah, we do stay tuned. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week. Bye.