The Program

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Speaker: Welcome to Movie Life Crisis.

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Speaker: Coming September 24th.

Speaker: They've come from different worlds.

Speaker: Football saved my life.

Speaker: To pursue the same dream.

Speaker: This is the story of what it takes.

Speaker: They're talking about how good I am under pressure.

Speaker: We never mention this during recruiting.

Speaker: To fight the pressure.

Speaker: Because all you care about is the program.

Speaker: The damn program!

Speaker: Face the pain.

Speaker: And survive.

Speaker: The program.

Speaker: Rated R.

Speaker: Wait, are we sure that's the trailer for the right movie?

Speaker: Yeah, it didn't say anything about football, did it?

Speaker: Did it say football?

Speaker: It didn't have a single recognizable line or any dialogue from any of the big-name actors.

Speaker: I was like, holy – are they making a new one?

Speaker: I've never – it's the first time I heard that.

Speaker: They come from different worlds.

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Speaker: Well, we just released our first Patreon-requested movie, which is 1994's Fear of a Black Hat, the Spinal Tap-style mockumentary about early 90s hip-hop.

Speaker: So funny.

Speaker: So weird and so dumb and so funny.

Speaker: Don't shoot till you see the whites of their eyes.

Speaker: Whose eyes?

Speaker: Yeah, thanks to Sean for that one.

Speaker: He showed us...

Speaker: Yeah, shout out to Sean.

Speaker: Jesus, that movie is funny.

Speaker: Don't listen to that if you care about swearing because we didn't edit out the F-words and there's about a thousand.

Speaker: A thousand million.

Speaker: Yeah, that was fun to do though.

Speaker: I liked it.

Speaker: But yeah, you get bonus movies if you join our Patreon from different years.

Speaker: Five bucks a month is the base tier.

Speaker: And if you join one of the higher tiers, you can actually recommend the movie for us.

Speaker: But yeah, we did what we do.

Speaker: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, we did...

Speaker: this fear of a black cat did Batman, the original 89, Tim Burton, Batman.

Speaker: I think next up on Patreon is Uncle Buck.

Speaker: So we'll work on that.

Speaker: It's good stuff.

Speaker: And then after Uncle Buck, I think we'll do Field of Dreams.

Speaker: Man, I'm ready.

Speaker: I like those.

Speaker: Yeah, but we're doing 89 movies on Patreon.

Speaker: So we got, we're going in the other direction.

Speaker: Anyway, past the halfway point for 93.

Speaker: Dude, we've got a lot of, still got some really fun movies coming up.

Speaker: Yeah, I was looking at the list.

Speaker: That's pretty awesome.

Speaker: I'm ready for it.

Speaker: Yeah, as I was reading through the rest of our schedules going, ooh, ooh, oh, that's going to be great.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: I'm super excited.

Speaker: Dude, same.

Speaker: Why did we pick this movie?

Speaker: Well, you don't even know if you've ever seen this, but I love this movie.

Speaker: I can remember a lot of people loving this movie.

Speaker: I think it's very specific.

Speaker: Yeah, you had to have been a jock when this movie came out to really have loved it.

Speaker: And I played football in high school and in college.

Speaker: And I thought then and still think now this is the most accurate college football movie that has ever been made.

Speaker: Oh, good, because I had a lot of questions about whether or not you were supposed to spit in each other's mouths before you went out onto the field.

Speaker: I don't know about supposed to, but you definitely are allowed to.

Speaker: The NCAA doesn't care.

Speaker: They faked that, by the way.

Speaker: That was CGI.

Speaker: I hope so.

Speaker: That was disgusting.

Speaker: No, they did.

Speaker: Yeah, no, dude, I went through it.

Speaker: I got Varsity Blues is the best high school football movie.

Speaker: Any Given Sunday is the best pro football movie, and I think the program remains the best college football movie.

Speaker: Better than Rudy?

Speaker: Like, no, Rudy is a better movie, but I'm saying accuracy's sake.

Speaker: I know Rudy is based on a true story, but, like, that's not how college football goes.

Speaker: This, where the guy's injecting clean urine into his bladder so he can go pass a piss test, that's more like what the NCAA is actually like.

Speaker: Yeah, that's...

Speaker: And the alumni are shaking hands and passing off $100 bills.

Speaker: Right, right, right.

Speaker: That's horrible.

Speaker: I think this is still scarily accurate.

Speaker: It missed on a couple of fronts.

Speaker: They only have three coaches.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Omar Epps is wearing Jerbo.

Speaker: There's some stuff that you probably would fix now.

Speaker: So Jerbo's aren't cool.

Speaker: I got to go change something in my closet.

Speaker: I'll be right back.

Speaker: At 93, the do-rag and Jerbo and Timberland's look was absolutely perfect.

Speaker: Not for us.

Speaker: I don't think you want to go out now rocking that.

Speaker: Not for me.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: I had some Jerbo's.

Speaker: Did you have some Jerbo's?

Speaker: I always liked how if I had something in my pocket, I had to reach down to my knee to get it.

Speaker: Get your whole arm in there up to the elbow.

Speaker: Oh, man.

Speaker: Yeah, dude, the only place you could buy Jabot's that I remember were either Dillard's or that place that was over by K&B, by the Kmart that was right in front, whatever that was called.

Speaker: Harper knows what it's called, fashion and something.

Speaker: It's...

Speaker: That's the only place.

Speaker: I wonder, what was the thought process behind like, hey, we got to make jeans where the pockets are big enough you can put a bike pump in there.

Speaker: I like a bike pump in my pocket.

Speaker: Dude, I don't know.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: What was the point of that?

Speaker: Like if you need to get your wallet, you need to help.

Speaker: That's why you had the chain on it so you could pull it back up.

Speaker: That's ridiculous.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Dude, I wasn't – I didn't wear a lot of jabots or Zee Calvaricis, but I did have at least one pair of these.

Speaker: I never had any – didn't Zee Calvaricis have like elastic around the ankles?

Speaker: Some of them did.

Speaker: Normally you just fold it over and tight roll them really tight and that looked really good with the pleats in the front.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: jeans jeans with pleats some of y'all don't know about that probably a lot of y'all actually that's ridiculous agreed but dude I did like a lot of the other outfits that the ladies were wearing

Speaker: A nice pattern vest over a button-down shirt that's a jean shirt buttoned all the way to the top with some high-waisted jeans.

Speaker: That's a good look.

Speaker: She could teach third grade social studies.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, you know when the outfits make 23-year-old Christy Swanson and Holly Berry look not that good, that they're really bad clothing.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Christy Swanson, I can take or leave now that I know about her, but... Well, I'm saying, now that I know 2023, Christy Swanson's political views, I'm not that interested.

Speaker: But I'm saying in the 90s... But Holly Berry I still thought looked all right.

Speaker: Things were very different.

Speaker: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

Speaker: You've got to really have some bad clothes on to think 23-year-old Holly Berry looks all right.

Speaker: Agreed.

Speaker: Touche, honky.

Speaker: That is the truth.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: Give us a synopsis.

Speaker: Oh, do you, by the way, do you want the regular synopsis that I just took from the internet or the AI that I had to type into like five different AIs to get one?

Speaker: It kept going, a program?

Speaker: You want a TV program?

Speaker: And I was like, no, God, is there a program named 1993?

Speaker: I was like, you're getting it wrong.

Speaker: This movie is not built for the internet age because you have to type in to search for the program and you get all of the internet.

Speaker: They just send everything back.

Speaker: Yeah, so I got one.

Speaker: So let's say –

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: The program, released in 1993, is a football drama centered around the competitive world of college football.

Speaker: The film follows players from fictional Eastern State University as they navigate the intense pressures of the game, deal with personal struggles, and confront the moral challenges that come with being in the spotlight.

Speaker: That's pretty good.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That ain't bad.

Speaker: It's not bad.

Speaker: Yeah, it's not bad.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It could have been better.

Speaker: I wanted him to talk about drinking and drugs and studying.

Speaker: Well, the movie talks about that plenty.

Speaker: Yeah, it does.

Speaker: The writer-director David Ward, who also wrote Major League and then wrote Sleepous in Seattle, that came out the same year with Nora Ephron, he said that what he wanted to do was make a movie about college football that wasn't just like –

Speaker: the movie ends when you win the big game.

Speaker: He's like, that's fine if that happens, but we need to talk about steroids.

Speaker: We need to talk about recruiting.

Speaker: We need to talk about if they're going to class and study and like, I want to get into all of that stuff.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So that's what he wanted to do, which actually is one of the things that I really liked about this movie and still like about this movie.

Speaker: Yeah, I agree.

Speaker: By the way, did they make it to a bowl game?

Speaker: They never even showed the bowl game, did they?

Speaker: Yeah, they made it to a bowl game and they didn't even show it.

Speaker: Yeah, okay.

Speaker: Like the movie ends as they win their conference title and become eligible for the bowl.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Because there's no college national championship in 1993, so I guess you win the conference, you go to a bowl game, and the bowl game's like bonus football that no one cares about.

Speaker: Extra bonus football, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, cool.

Speaker: Dude, to be honest, like I think we've talked about this, maybe not on here, but like the – you play like 2K.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I love playing the games when it's afterwards and I got to go sit in the coach's office and answer questions.

Speaker: I'm like, can I just skip past this?

Speaker: I don't want to do this.

Speaker: Oh, you got to go show up at a car wash and take pictures.

Speaker: All you gotta do is click the B button three times.

Speaker: I don't even like skip to the next game.

Speaker: Like I don't even want to.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So the part of me, when I watch these movies like this and it's behind the scenes, I'm like, nah, I don't care.

Speaker: Like I don't,

Speaker: care how the sausage is made.

Speaker: I just want to see the cool stuff.

Speaker: But then like we always talk about something that there's something that you might really enjoy though.

Speaker: Um, I'm going to recommend to you.

Speaker: It's regular football.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Watch that.

Speaker: But this is the thing.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Cause that's all it is.

Speaker: It's just the game.

Speaker: Yeah, I know.

Speaker: And I like that.

Speaker: Um, and I can watch that, uh, fairly often.

Speaker: Um, but when I'm like hanging out with people and they want to talk about like salary caps and like what people are doing outside of the, like, I don't, I don't care about that.

Speaker: I'm the opposite, man.

Speaker: I'm so much more interested in how NBA teams are built and what people contracts are and playing time and rotations.

Speaker: And then when the game comes on, I'm like, this is fine, I guess.

Speaker: But afterwards, I can't wait to talk about whether they're going to change their big man rotation for the next game.

Speaker: I like when if it's just like, hey, you think they're going to change?

Speaker: You think they should play this guy more?

Speaker: I understand going, yeah, yeah, that's cool.

Speaker: But I can fill a 30 minute show with what I need to talk about all the way until the next week.

Speaker: of football.

Speaker: These people are talking like 24 hours, seven days a week, all about football on the NFL channel.

Speaker: And I don't know how they do that.

Speaker: Like, I don't, I think the way they do it is they get paid a seven figures to talk about football all day on the NFL.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I'm sure I would find a way to figure out, to talk about that too.

Speaker: But I'm saying like,

Speaker: You definitely would.

Speaker: I couldn't anymore.

Speaker: Like when Jimmy Graham got signed to the Saints, I had to text some people and go like, is Jimmy Graham still playing football or is this like a practical joke?

Speaker: I didn't.

Speaker: Is this another Jimmy Graham?

Speaker: Jimmy Graham Jr.?

Speaker: Dude, I watched parts of two Saints playoff games in the last like three or four years.

Speaker: It's the only football I've watched at all.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So I have no idea who's doing it.

Speaker: Like, Dad tries to talk to me.

Speaker: He's like, hey, what do you think about the Saints?

Speaker: I'm like, I don't think I can even name a single player.

Speaker: Like, is Drew Brees still there?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: You know Drew Brees isn't there.

Speaker: But I'm saying, like, I like watching the Saints.

Speaker: But, dude, I don't even get any emotional about it anymore.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Yeah, that's the way to do it.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: Budget.

Speaker: This movie had a budget $15 to $20 million, somewhere in that range.

Speaker: I couldn't pin down the exact number.

Speaker: $23 million gross.

Speaker: Number 66 on the year, which sounds pretty bad, but is also more than Life with Mikey and So I Married an Axe Murderer put together.

Speaker: And we might do both of those movies.

Speaker: I like both of those movies better than this.

Speaker: I really like it.

Speaker: I think we said we're not doing Life with Mikey so we can do For Love or Money.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Just because we have multiple $10 million Michael J. Fox movies.

Speaker: Let's just pick one.

Speaker: I love that song.

Speaker: Me too.

Speaker: What were you playing?

Speaker: Oh, man.

Speaker: But yeah, so if you go down to the grossing movies, if you go through the top 100, you can get into the 80s and I can at least still find something and go, ooh, I remember that movie.

Speaker: I would watch that.

Speaker: Dude, you know how I roll.

Speaker: I'm trying to go through Plex and delete some movies that I have, and I'm like, oh, better not delete that.

Speaker: I might want to watch that one day.

Speaker: Oh, it didn't make any money, and it's 3% on Rotten Tomatoes?

Speaker: That's all right.

Speaker: I still kind of like it.

Speaker: you know, and everybody listening probably knows that we like to pick movies for the podcast that we like and not just go straight down and do the 25 highest grossing movies of the year.

Speaker: That's no fun.

Speaker: That's no fun.

Speaker: I think we probably can move pretty quickly through awards and sequels.

Speaker: No awards, no sequels.

Speaker: I didn't see any.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And do you remember when you first saw this movie?

Speaker: About a week ago, week and a half.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Well, I thought you said you'd seen it one time before that.

Speaker: I don't think I have.

Speaker: Now that I'm thinking about it, I think I only saw clips.

Speaker: And like, to be completely honest, there was part of me that was like, oh, I remember there was like some sort of like, uh, like problem with this.

Speaker: Like it was, uh, some kind of issue and they had to fix it because like people were laying down in the street, but I was like, holy shit, let me look that up.

Speaker: So then I look it up and I found the clip and I'm watching the clip and I'm like, that wasn't even in the movie I just watched, uh, because they took it out.

Speaker: And now I know, I guess maybe we should talk about that, huh?

Speaker: there was a scene that came out and when the film first released of the players, like the star players, like Alvin Mack and Joe Kane, like laying in the middle of a divided highway, like on the dividing line, just laying in the middle of the road, supposed to show how like crazy they were with cars.

Speaker: Like, yeah, with cars like whipping past them.

Speaker: And then after the movie released, apparently some kids tried that and got killed.

Speaker: And so Disney pulled the film, recut it and re-released it without that scene in it.

Speaker: And it never, like, it's kind of hard to find.

Speaker: I mean, it's on the internet now because everything is, but it wasn't, it wasn't on the DVD.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Like when it came out streaming, it's not on the streaming, any of the official streaming versions.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: The places that you could only find it is if some people had it recorded off of VHS because it was on a like a television spot.

Speaker: And then the Hong Kong Laserdisc and the Australian DVD release both had it.

Speaker: Yeah, it's like the original theatrical Star Wars movies that Lucas has redone so many times.

Speaker: It's kind of hard to find the original theatrical releases.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: You need to go to... And that's for freaking Star Wars, which is one of the biggest movies ever.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Which this was not.

Speaker: Yeah, this isn't.

Speaker: And I could see how kids would want to...

Speaker: imitate that, I guess.

Speaker: They make it look kind of cool, but like, and scary.

Speaker: And when you're a young kid and you're a jackass, that looks like something that might be fun to imitate.

Speaker: But dude, I can also see why they pulled it.

Speaker: Well, the writer director said, David S. Ward said that

Speaker: After the scene had been cut and the movie was re-released, he's like, it turns out that those kids that had gotten injured or had gotten killed, like, they had been doing that before the movie came out.

Speaker: So he's like – Nice.

Speaker: So we felt better because it turned out it wasn't our fault necessarily.

Speaker: But still, I never pushed for them to put the scene back in because I didn't want to risk anyone else doing something dumb and getting injured.

Speaker: Right, right, right.

Speaker: But yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I think I only saw clips, so I had never watched the whole thing.

Speaker: I don't remember when I first saw this because it was rated R, but I probably saw it in high school because, again, I played football in high school and in college.

Speaker: I know I owned it on DVD because I distinctly remember holding the DVD case.

Speaker: But I think I would have seen it on video, but I don't think I owned it.

Speaker: I think I must have just – maybe they played it on TV or on movie channels or maybe I rented it.

Speaker: But I mean –

Speaker: There are movies that, like, especially if you take bus trips, like in college, you know, you watch movies on the bus.

Speaker: Everybody, let's watch it.

Speaker: There aren't that many football movies, so we watched all of them.

Speaker: You don't want to watch Necessary Roughness on the way to a football game, then you, you know, you don't play as well.

Speaker: Dude, I don't, I can remember people talking about it.

Speaker: I can remember like Thad and Chris talking about it and watching it, but I don't think I've ever seen the whole thing.

Speaker: Clips is all I've seen.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Well, dude, tell us what you rated it since this is your first time ever seeing it, and now you're grown.

Speaker: Now that I'm grown, and I can't give it a seven, right?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: No sevens?

Speaker: Still no sevens.

Speaker: Still no sevens.

Speaker: That's good because I'm giving it a 5.5.

Speaker: Oh, nice.

Speaker: That's better than I would have thought.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Something about it irked me.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: I don't know what it was.

Speaker: And the whole behind the scenes thing, again, I don't really need to see how the sausage is made.

Speaker: I could see the appeal to it for some people.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I just had a lot of questions when I left.

Speaker: I wrote them all down in case you can answer them, but I had a lot of questions.

Speaker: I don't know if I can answer them, but I definitely want to hear some of them.

Speaker: We're going to have to move quickly through the best because I actually have some words here I need to talk about.

Speaker: Oh, boy, me too.

Speaker: Okay, good.

Speaker: Which I think we'll be able to do.

Speaker: What did you rate it?

Speaker: I got a 6.5 out of 10.

Speaker: Oh, geez, that's way lower than I thought.

Speaker: Well, again, no sevens.

Speaker: I do think it's still really good.

Speaker: We talked about this when we did Rookie of the Year.

Speaker: Why is it so easy to make good baseball movies and so hard to make good football movies?

Speaker: This is a good football movie.

Speaker: They're just not that good.

Speaker: But what it is is it's got a surprisingly good cast, like James Caan, Omar Epps, Christy Swanson, Craig Sheffer, the guy from River Runs Through It, Andrew Brynjarski, who is a necessary roughness, Batman Returns, Hudson Hawk, Holly Berry, who just is coming off a boomerang.

Speaker: Joey Lauren Adams is in a little bit of this.

Speaker: She's credited as Joey Adams.

Speaker: She's pretty young.

Speaker: It's got a really good soundtrack, which I didn't remember.

Speaker: And I actually liked that a couple of the main characters, like at least three of them, had legitimate arcs from the beginning of the movie to the end of the movie.

Speaker: And it was the first movie that I had ever seen.

Speaker: It really went deep into the kind of underbelly of big-time college football, which now 30 years later, no one is surprised that college football players are getting $100 handshakes and taking drugs and hiding it from the NCAA.

Speaker: But in 1993, that was not out there as a thing that everyone knew about.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: It was definitely more hidden.

Speaker: Dude, I can remember working with a kid that played on Southeastern's team when they came back.

Speaker: And he was like, yeah, I'd have a good game where I have like a fumble recovery, a forced fumble, a fumble recovery and like six tackles.

Speaker: And they'd have like $500 in an envelope in my locker when I got back in there.

Speaker: I was like, what?

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: He's like, yeah, it happens all the time.

Speaker: And not only does it happen all the time, but maybe I cared about that in 1993, but now I'm going, good.

Speaker: You should get some money.

Speaker: You're making billions of dollars.

Speaker: You should get some of that money.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Agreed.

Speaker: We'll talk about that when we get to the... I couldn't go to eight because it just didn't feel like an eight.

Speaker: But six and a half, I think, is totally legitimate for me.

Speaker: Cool.

Speaker: Then I feel all right about my five and a half.

Speaker: All right, let's do scenes.

Speaker: What's your first scene?

Speaker: My first best scene was when Jefferson fumbles Darnell Jefferson, Omar Epps.

Speaker: He's going to carry the ball around with him all the time, and the other football players have to try to knock it out.

Speaker: It's to teach him to not fumble.

Speaker: And he's in class, and the ball goes rolling down the aisle, and they all jump off.

Speaker: They're all trying to get the ball.

Speaker: All the football players are in the same class, it seems like.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And they're all trying to get the loose ball.

Speaker: Dude, that one's on my list as well.

Speaker: First, real quick, Darnell Jefferson is an amazing running back name.

Speaker: Like if I was going to make a creative player on Madden, I could easily use that.

Speaker: That's such a great name.

Speaker: It sounds pretty racist when you say it like that.

Speaker: I don't know why.

Speaker: Darnell Jefferson is the worst swimming name ever.

Speaker: No, wait, that's racist.

Speaker: You can't say that.

Speaker: Yeah, next time I play Madden Swimming, I'll create Darnell Jefferson and create a player.

Speaker: This is fun.

Speaker: We should do this.

Speaker: We're old white guys.

Speaker: We should talk about if it's racist for me, a white man, to create a black running back on Madden create a player because I truthfully don't know the answer.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: It doesn't – When I go to Taco Bell and they only give me mild sauce, is that racist?

Speaker: Because I don't know the answer to that either.

Speaker: That is not racist.

Speaker: That is accurate.

Speaker: Because it feels – it is accurate, but it feels racist.

Speaker: Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker: No, dude, that seems great.

Speaker: That's on my list.

Speaker: He, during the first practice, he fumbles the ball and the coach is like, Hey, Jefferson, great run.

Speaker: Imagine if we still had the football.

Speaker: He's like, you take this football, you carry it with you everywhere.

Speaker: And he like tells the whole team, he's like, if anyone but Jefferson brings his football back to me, you're going to be in a world of hurt.

Speaker: And so he's just like carrying it around campus, carrying it like a loaf of bread.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And even in the game, he carries it like a loaf of bread.

Speaker: I know, man.

Speaker: I said, carry it like a loaf of bread five times out loud while I watched this movie.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Which won't make sense to anyone until 1999 when any given Sunday comes out.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: No, they get it.

Speaker: Someone knocks it out from under his arm during a class.

Speaker: Also, that's legit.

Speaker: Football players do all take the same classes.

Speaker: Of course they do.

Speaker: Because those are the professors who are giving A's to football players.

Speaker: Of course they do.

Speaker: And like 10 people start diving over desks and trying to run down this football.

Speaker: And the professor's just like, old guy wearing a sleeveless vest.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he has no idea what's going on.

Speaker: And then like there's a huge pile up.

Speaker: The table gets knocked over.

Speaker: Jefferson, Omar Epps, comes up with the football and he just goes like, I dropped my ball.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: No, that was a good scene.

Speaker: That was a good scene.

Speaker: I think about that all the time.

Speaker: Anytime I'm watching football, which as we've established is never, and someone fumbles, I'm thinking like he's going to have to carry that football around everywhere.

Speaker: I think when I think of a football movie that I like and somebody fumbles, I think of Remember the Titans when Denzel's yelling at the kid, why are you dropping my ball, Petey?

Speaker: And he's like pointing at him and I will break my foot off in your John Brown hindquarters.

Speaker: Like he's, I like it.

Speaker: Oh man.

Speaker: Once remember the Titans is it 97 or 98?

Speaker: I'd love that.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: It seems like it's later than that.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I like that movie.

Speaker: That's in my top football movies.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That's a good call.

Speaker: Cause I like the actual football in that movie.

Speaker: Like, you know how we always talk about like, yeah, the people who are, yeah.

Speaker: The people who are trying to play football in these movies are the people that were in the drama club and now they're trying to pretend to be football players.

Speaker: Uh, I don't know why I believed it more when we were doing, when during remember the Titans.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Well, it's funny that you say that because I legitimately think this was the first football movie to do what A League of Their Own did and what – dude, why can I not think of Woody and Wesley playing basketball?

Speaker: White Men Can't Jump.

Speaker: White Men Can't Jump did where they actually cast people who could play the sport in the movie.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because – The football looked good in this.

Speaker: Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker: When they cast this, they actually did like all of the extras were football players, either college or semi-pro football players.

Speaker: And all of the actors had to go through like a training camp before they could get cast.

Speaker: That's awesome.

Speaker: And then the guy who shot it was a football player for USC, the cinematographer.

Speaker: So they made a real effort to make the football look real.

Speaker: And they said like, like the guy who played Alvin Mack, Dwayne Davis was like, I was actually, I had a stunt double, but I was doing almost all of it because I played college football.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He's pretty big.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He's freaking huge.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So like the football and remember the Titans is good, but this is, this is kind of one of the first ones where they, and remember that became a thing in any given Sunday too.

Speaker: It's like Oliver stones figured out all these ways to make the football.

Speaker: Every time you made a football movie, it had to be like the football super realistic.

Speaker: I promise.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Can't be point blank.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: What was the, what was the movie with Keanu throwing the football?

Speaker: Yeah, Point Break.

Speaker: Point Break, that's right.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Dude, I think Craig Sheffer went to the Keanu School of Throwing the Football because they said that he kept asking to do the football scenes and the director kept having to tell him, like, no, you're not good at it.

Speaker: We have a guy who actually was a college football player as your stunt double.

Speaker: He's the one throwing it because he looks like he knows how to throw a football.

Speaker: Yeah, he could be a Heisman candidate.

Speaker: Did I also think about, by the way, when he carries the basketball everywhere, I think about the Pistol Pete movie where he slept with the basketball in his bed.

Speaker: Yeah, Pistol.

Speaker: The one that was filmed in Hammond.

Speaker: The one that was filmed in Hammond.

Speaker: The one that maybe only you and I ever saw because you can't even find it on the internet anymore.

Speaker: But I saw it a bunch.

Speaker: I had it on tape.

Speaker: It's really good.

Speaker: Craig's uncle's in that.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's good stuff.

Speaker: I'm sure we could get him to come and talk about it if we wanted to.

Speaker: I could call him right now if you need to.

Speaker: I think I have his number still.

Speaker: We can go on by his house anytime.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: So yeah, that's, that's also on one of my scenes that carry the football everywhere.

Speaker: So what's your first, not that scene.

Speaker: My first scene before that was the first practice, the first football practice that leads up to that scene.

Speaker: Is it the training montage thing with Welcome to the Jungle in the background?

Speaker: I was trying to remember if Welcome to the Jungle was over the first, but I just remember the first practice, like they're wearing the old practice jerseys that are like mesh.

Speaker: Yeah, you can see the holes.

Speaker: And they're all wearing like high top Adidas.

Speaker: Clearly Adidas like sponsored this movie.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: And they have the huge freaking round neck rolls that look like –

Speaker: Look like something you'd use at a pool.

Speaker: That's what I actually make my guy look like when I make Madden.

Speaker: When I play Madden and I have a guy, it doesn't matter what – he's got the neck roll.

Speaker: He's got – I just do the one bar across the front like a kicker in the 70s.

Speaker: It's great.

Speaker: Dude, I know and you know and probably and Will knows, but I don't know if anyone else knows that when you make a player for a game like that, you spend most of the time changing that player's outfit and not playing the games.

Speaker: I get it exactly like I want.

Speaker: And then I'm like, oh, wait, we still have to play?

Speaker: Yeah, I'm totally with you.

Speaker: I remember playing Borderlands with y'all.

Speaker: Yes, exactly.

Speaker: But dude, that first practice, Darnell Jefferson, Omar Epps, he's the running back.

Speaker: And it's so dumb, but he's talking during all of his runs.

Speaker: He's like doing spin moves and Alvin Mack is talking.

Speaker: They're all talking during the plays.

Speaker: And I don't know why, but I just always remember that.

Speaker: I always, I put that in my worst actually.

Speaker: Like the voiceovers that they do in movies like this, I never really liked it.

Speaker: And I am somebody who used to talk while we would play basketball on Sunday nights, doing my own play-by-play.

Speaker: I've never played college basketball, obviously, or professional basketball, definitely, obviously.

Speaker: But people talk a lot more playing basketball than they do playing football.

Speaker: Because I played a lot of football, and you have a mouthpiece in.

Speaker: You're not able to talk unless you're Tom Brady.

Speaker: And then you're saying stuff like, Blue 72, Blue 72 said hut.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Like, the whole, like...

Speaker: Even the water boys, like – even though he was this kittiest to me recently, I would still have to say Captain Insano.

Speaker: Like people – there's not that much talking on a football field during the play because you have a mouthful of mouthpiece.

Speaker: I totally could see that.

Speaker: I don't – I've never played football.

Speaker: That's not for me.

Speaker: But yeah, no, so I think Welcome to the Jungle was in that scene.

Speaker: Omar Epps is like doing his spin moves and like talking shit.

Speaker: He fumbles the ball.

Speaker: He has to carry the football everywhere.

Speaker: The coach like gets really mad at Latimer because he's trying to tackle too high and he's like – he's like – he's talking to him and Latimer, the guy who plays him is huge.

Speaker: He's like 6'5".

Speaker: So James Caan is like telling him he's like grabbing him by the –

Speaker: He's like, you stop with that highlight bullshit.

Speaker: He's like, I want you to take your helmet.

Speaker: And he punches him in the chest and put it in his chest.

Speaker: And I want to see nothing but snot bubbles.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And then at the end of the game, at the end of the movie, when he hits that guy, there's the snot bubbles coming out.

Speaker: Yeah, I like that.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And then straight after that practice scene is when Joe Kane walks to the locker room and meets Christy Swanson.

Speaker: So I was trying to count those two together because neither of them were good enough on their own.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So you liked when he met Christy Swanson.

Speaker: Yeah, because that part was so, he like walks through the locker room wearing like skinny jeans and cowboy boots and she's in there working out with a knee brace on.

Speaker: And he's trying to talk to her.

Speaker: So he like sits down in his full like I'm going to the bar outfit and starts doing lat pull downs.

Speaker: Like staring right at her.

Speaker: Like, how's it going?

Speaker: You're just trying to tone.

Speaker: Oh, see, I put in there after that as a bonus scene for me was when they went and played tennis.

Speaker: And he was dressed like the older brother from Goonies.

Speaker: And she was playing tennis in high-waisted jean shorts.

Speaker: And I was like, Jesus Christ, I would be...

Speaker: My inner thighs would be ground meat.

Speaker: There's no way I'm running that much in jean shorts.

Speaker: If I tried to play tennis in jean shorts, my crotch would spontaneously combust.

Speaker: It would just catch on fire from friction.

Speaker: And then he loses and he's like, play another sport or go out with me.

Speaker: I'm like, what?

Speaker: Is that how you do that?

Speaker: That's definitely an early nineties thing where it's like, you have to like trick a woman into going out with you.

Speaker: It's like, you beat me in a sport or I'm taking you out of my motorcycle.

Speaker: And she's like, what?

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: I guess I'll see you tonight.

Speaker: I guess I don't have any choice.

Speaker: I guess I'll do that since you are still in college.

Speaker: Uh, and you're obviously 32 years old.

Speaker: Everyone else was pretty close to the right age, but yeah, Craig Sheffer was 33 when this movie came out.

Speaker: I was guessing 32.

Speaker: He looked older.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Well, he'd been on the river with Brad Pitt fishing, so he had a lot of sun.

Speaker: Yeah, what's your next scene?

Speaker: All right, so I had when he fumbles the ball for the first one, and then I had that training montage, and I think we're talking about the same one.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So those are my two.

Speaker: That's the first practice.

Speaker: Right, and then for third, I just had all of the football scenes because, like, again, I thought they were really pretty good.

Speaker: Yeah, the football was great.

Speaker: I think it looked good.

Speaker: It looked good.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: My third scene is Alvin Mack.

Speaker: It's really two scenes, but they cut.

Speaker: They're meant to cut one from the other.

Speaker: First, he's talking to his tutor.

Speaker: He's the star middle linebacker.

Speaker: He's going to be a high NFL draft pick, and the tutor's like –

Speaker: It's just meant to show how much he doesn't give a shit about school because the tutor's like, who fought in the Punic Wars?

Speaker: He's like, I don't know.

Speaker: Detroit and Buffalo?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he's like, Alvin, you're going to be tested on this.

Speaker: And then this immediate cut to the film room and the coach, James Caan, is going, he's like, all right, Alvin, Mississippi State offense, second and two on their own 24.

Speaker: What defense do we call?

Speaker: And he goes, eagle zipper hero unless the back shifts into the eye.

Speaker: And it's like five minutes of him spitting out defensive calls.

Speaker: And it's like, actually, this guy's not dumb.

Speaker: He just doesn't give a shit about school because he's going to play professional football.

Speaker: Is he, though?

Speaker: Is he though?

Speaker: Spoiler alert.

Speaker: He's not.

Speaker: He hurts his knee.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Blows his knee out.

Speaker: But I really liked that.

Speaker: They just do that.

Speaker: Like this guy's like, like, it's not that he doesn't care.

Speaker: It's not that he's dumb.

Speaker: It's like, he doesn't care about school.

Speaker: Cause he doesn't need to.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: But honestly, he knows a lot about football.

Speaker: I mean, I know who fought in the Punic Wars because I teach that.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: But like, do you need to know who fought in the Punic Wars?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: No, you definitely don't need to know that.

Speaker: You also don't need to know what to do against Mississippi State second and two on their own 24.

Speaker: But the point that the movie's trying to make that I really liked is that this guy's not dumb.

Speaker: He just is spending all of his energy thinking about football.

Speaker: Right, right.

Speaker: And that's a good call.

Speaker: Because there's a lot of times where it's like, oh, the athletes are just coasting through school.

Speaker: It's like, yeah, they totally are because they're making the school millions and millions of dollars on the football field.

Speaker: They don't care about school.

Speaker: And I don't care that they don't care about school.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: But I actually think – I think it's good to like not give into the stereotype that this guy actually is dumb as a box of hammers.

Speaker: It's like, no, he actually – he's pretty smart.

Speaker: He's just thinking about football all the time.

Speaker: Who did fight in the Punic Wars?

Speaker: Do you know?

Speaker: I have no idea.

Speaker: It's Rome and Carthage.

Speaker: Cool.

Speaker: Are there any of those in Greece?

Speaker: Hannibal Barca, man.

Speaker: Phoenicians.

Speaker: Yeah, he's awesome.

Speaker: He's my favorite – one of my favorite people in history is Hannibal Barca.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, I'm just going to mark this clip so I can delete it out later.

Speaker: Do you want me to just talk for the rest of the hour on that?

Speaker: Because I got some good stories.

Speaker: War elephants, man.

Speaker: War elephants.

Speaker: I do like war elephants.

Speaker: Now I'm going to have to delete it out because you just yelled about war elephants.

Speaker: Leave it in.

Speaker: All right, cool.

Speaker: Is that the end of your scene?

Speaker: Yeah, I got no other scenes.

Speaker: All right, dude.

Speaker: My first quote, which I still think applies to almost every football game, is, are you injured or are you hurt?

Speaker: Yes, that's what I got.

Speaker: And then he's like, what do you mean?

Speaker: He's like, well, if you're hurt, you can still play, but if you're injured, you can't.

Speaker: So are you hurt or are you injured?

Speaker: He's like, I think I'm just hurt.

Speaker: Yeah, that's Omar Epps, Darnell Jefferson.

Speaker: That's such a genius quote that I have thought about a million times since then.

Speaker: That is literally the only quote that I have.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: I don't have any other ones.

Speaker: I have one more really good one, and then I have one that I don't think is all that great.

Speaker: The other one is Christy Swanson.

Speaker: After Joe goes in his cowboy boots and does some lat pull-downs while talking to her, and he insults her like four times, he's like, hey, go out for a drink with me.

Speaker: And she's like, I don't go out with football players.

Speaker: They're all full of themselves.

Speaker: And I saw you on the cover of Sports Illustrated, so you're probably worse than most.

Speaker: Worse than most.

Speaker: Boy, she was right.

Speaker: I was like, God, that's a great quote.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, I still have more questions.

Speaker: We'll get there.

Speaker: Keep going.

Speaker: What's your last one that's not that good?

Speaker: Yeah, and also, spoiler alert, he was worse than most.

Speaker: Yeah, he was.

Speaker: The other one I had was these are just ties between things they say during the football games that I don't think, like they're dumb, but people say dumb stuff in football huddles, I promise.

Speaker: One of them is Alvin Mack, who always says, kill them all, let the paramedics sort them out.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: And then Joe Kane says, let's put the women and children to bed and go looking for dinner.

Speaker: Yeah, he says that a bunch.

Speaker: That's why they both say that a bunch.

Speaker: Yeah, that's my question, though.

Speaker: So do people say stuff like that in the huddles?

Speaker: I don't remember anyone trying to get a catchphrase out, but people definitely said dumb stuff.

Speaker: But if someone kept saying the same thing over and over again, I'd be like, again with that?

Speaker: I'm not inspired anymore.

Speaker: I'm trying to make it happen.

Speaker: I'm trying to make it happen.

Speaker: My favorite thing that anyone ever said in a huddle is during the first 49ers Super Bowl, they were not yet a dynasty, and they were down.

Speaker: And it was getting into the fourth quarter, and they got into the huddle, and Joe Montana just pointed into the stands.

Speaker: He's like, hey, it's John Candy.

Speaker: And then all the 49ers offense realized he wasn't nervous at all, and they went down and scored, and they won.

Speaker: That's...

Speaker: Awesome.

Speaker: Joe Mantegna was pretty good.

Speaker: Joe Mantegna.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So those are the quotes I got.

Speaker: That's good.

Speaker: Dude, I was having trouble finding quotes that I really liked.

Speaker: I put both of those quotes that you put at the end as just questions.

Speaker: Like, do they really say like, let's put the women and children to bed and go look for dinner?

Speaker: What does that even mean?

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Maybe football on offense is only for grown men and not for women and children.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Put them to bed and then go look for dinner.

Speaker: And that bitch better have cooked it for me.

Speaker: And he should be out on the table.

Speaker: Or else I'm going to throw her off the back of my motorcycle, which is fine because she's wearing a helmet and I'm not.

Speaker: Yeah, good call.

Speaker: Yeah, let's do characters then.

Speaker: There's not a lot of great quotes.

Speaker: There's one amazing quote, and there's a couple of characters.

Speaker: Yeah, that's the one I picked.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Who's your first character?

Speaker: First character, Halle Berry.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because even in 90s clothes, she was still good looking.

Speaker: Bring back the suit, jackets, over the patterned vest.

Speaker: Crocheted, sleeveless vest.

Speaker: I like how you say sleeveless vest like an ATM machine.

Speaker: I think vests don't have sleeves.

Speaker: Isn't that a thing?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: You might be right about that.

Speaker: Maybe that's why they're vests.

Speaker: Probably don't need the sleeveless part in there.

Speaker: The Department of Redundancy Department.

Speaker: What's the right – oh, sweater vest.

Speaker: That's what it's called.

Speaker: Sweater vest, yes.

Speaker: But some of these weren't sweater vests.

Speaker: They were like the silky stuff on the back and the pattern on the front.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: She had like the embroidered vest.

Speaker: With a button-down jean shirt all the way to the top.

Speaker: Tucked in.

Speaker: Speaking of tucked in, man, Latimer liked to tuck his stuff in.

Speaker: All of it.

Speaker: All of it.

Speaker: No, I put Halle Berry because I just liked her.

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: I just liked her.

Speaker: Her character was fine, I guess.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: She was cheating on her man, but he was kind of a jerk.

Speaker: I wasn't real sure what their status was because she caught him with a white girl, and so she kissed Omar Epps, and then he came back around in the fall, and they were kind of together.

Speaker: She had maybe forgiven him, but then she decided she was mad at him, and then I couldn't tell if they – I couldn't really tell the relationship status.

Speaker: Also, Omar Epps just wanting to kiss people after – thanks for giving me that tour.

Speaker: How about some tongue?

Speaker: Like he just like shot a shot right there.

Speaker: Jesus.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I mean, I guess if you're Omar Epps, you can do that.

Speaker: You should go and ask some of the star football players at the high school that you teach, whether or not that's realistic.

Speaker: And I don't, I will not be surprised at the answer.

Speaker: You might be.

Speaker: Maybe I can just ask their babies.

Speaker: I dude, I, I just can't imagine like doing that to somebody.

Speaker: Thanks.

Speaker: Thanks so much for showing me around.

Speaker: This has been a fun two hours that you got paid for.

Speaker: How about now we make out?

Speaker: excuse me, ma'am, do you know where the toilet paper is?

Speaker: It's on aisle seven.

Speaker: All right, come here.

Speaker: And you just mug down on her.

Speaker: Let's seal this with a kiss.

Speaker: Thank you for that service.

Speaker: All right, cool.

Speaker: So you like Holly Berry because Holly Berry is Holly Berry.

Speaker: That's great.

Speaker: That's why I picked her.

Speaker: Autumn Haley.

Speaker: And her last name was Haley.

Speaker: Just spelled different.

Speaker: Yep.

Speaker: My first one is Omar Epps, Darnell Jefferson.

Speaker: The best running back name.

Speaker: He's pretty new, man.

Speaker: It's a great running back name.

Speaker: I don't know if that's racist.

Speaker: Jeff says maybe it is.

Speaker: I don't know why it would be, but I just think Darnell Jefferson is a great name.

Speaker: Dude, it is.

Speaker: It is.

Speaker: He's pretty new to acting.

Speaker: He's 20 in this film.

Speaker: He was in Juice the year before this, and he's a year away still from playing Willie Mays Hayes in Major League Two.

Speaker: Oh, so good.

Speaker: But I just thought he did a really good job, man.

Speaker: He's in a bunch of scenes with Holly Berry.

Speaker: And Holly Berry has a Best Actress Oscar, like not now, but down the road.

Speaker: And he's better than she is in those scenes, like head-to-head with someone we know is going to turn out to be an amazing actress.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Like Omar Epps is good, man.

Speaker: He's doing a good job.

Speaker: I like him in a lot of the things that I've seen him in.

Speaker: There was one that he was in Mod Squad, like the TV show remake movie.

Speaker: It's god awful with Giovanni Ribisi.

Speaker: I loved Omar Epps in that, man.

Speaker: I thought he was so cool.

Speaker: Yeah, man.

Speaker: I like Omar Epps.

Speaker: I like him in the wood, loving basketball, you know, Major League Two.

Speaker: Like, he's just, he's good.

Speaker: Yeah, he is good.

Speaker: I liked him.

Speaker: He was my second pick also, by the way.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: The Wood, 1999.

Speaker: I'm going to set on my calendar, like, let's see if we can get Omar Epps to talk to us about the wood.

Speaker: I'll take any of those guys to talk to.

Speaker: I love that movie.

Speaker: I do too.

Speaker: Ain't nobody cooking you, that's Grits.

Speaker: Where the bathroom at?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, great movie.

Speaker: My second one is Craig Sheffer as Joe Kane.

Speaker: Yeah, I didn't put him.

Speaker: He's – I mean honestly, man, there's a bunch of – I didn't think – everybody was doing a good job.

Speaker: Nobody was like, wow, they really blew me away.

Speaker: He's like – I don't think Craig Sheffer is lighting the world on fire, but he's solid.

Speaker: Like it's – I think it's a really good casting for him because he's like a B-level leading man with limited range and this is a B-level movie where he's not asked to show a lot of range.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: So, but like, it's an important part.

Speaker: Like he's, yeah, he can't throw the football.

Speaker: I mean, he can throw the football, but not as good as the guy who actually played college football, who was his stunt double.

Speaker: Correct.

Speaker: But he's, I mean, he's the lead character of the movie and I thought he was, was fine.

Speaker: Like he was good.

Speaker: There was never a point where I was like, God, I'm so annoyed.

Speaker: I wish they'd put somebody better than this in this part.

Speaker: And we watched Point Break and I wish they'd have put somebody other than Keanu in that part.

Speaker: And everyone loves that movie and Keanu.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Everybody.

Speaker: So I got someone to recognize Craig Sheffer.

Speaker: That's good.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: As we said, he's 33 playing a college junior standard Hollywood nonsense.

Speaker: Welcome to Greece.

Speaker: Dude.

Speaker: Also, he's a Heisman candidate, a star quarterback, and he lives in the dorms.

Speaker: Yeah, of course he does.

Speaker: This is 1993, man.

Speaker: They're not even allowed to have jobs.

Speaker: Well, he had a motorcycle.

Speaker: Yeah, but that's because he stole it from his dad, the drinker.

Speaker: I don't know, dude.

Speaker: I got nothing.

Speaker: All right, who's your next character?

Speaker: The next character is the only person I thought did a really good job acting, and that was Latimer.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I thought he did a fantastic job.

Speaker: He did.

Speaker: Sure.

Speaker: He was a huge, huge, huge dude.

Speaker: And he tucked his shirt in all the time and he wore weird face paint and he was a freaking roid head that went crazy, but he was still likable.

Speaker: And that's what I liked about him.

Speaker: Andrew Banyarski plays Latimer, and he did a great job of portraying, frankly, a kind of awful person who was totally roided up.

Speaker: He was, like, smashing his head through car windows.

Speaker: He tried to rape a girl.

Speaker: Like, he was not... That girl was so... I don't know if he was really big or she was really tiny or both.

Speaker: That chick looked...

Speaker: He's for sure really big.

Speaker: He's six foot five.

Speaker: So like I might look like that standing next to him in this movie because he's enormous.

Speaker: He was like picking her up and throwing her.

Speaker: And I was like, oh, my God, that is like a little child.

Speaker: Yeah, I don't think I could throw my toddler who weighs 30 pounds the way he was throwing that full grown woman around.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: That's what I'm saying.

Speaker: It's crazy.

Speaker: It's crazy.

Speaker: But I really liked what he did.

Speaker: He was really good.

Speaker: I think it's good to recognize someone who does a really good job of portraying an awful human.

Speaker: And he did.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And dude, like when he was supposedly supposed to quit, but then went back to it and then went crazy and hit the guy and the snot bubbles and he comes on the side and James Conn's looking at him, doesn't even need to say anything.

Speaker: And you could see him, he's looking at him with his crazy frigging roid eyes.

Speaker: And then he just looks down at the ground because he knew like he let James Caan down and then went and cried on the bench like, quote, tears of joy.

Speaker: Like I – that's what the announcer said.

Speaker: Dude, I thought he did a great job.

Speaker: I was like he made me believe all of the things that he just did.

Speaker: Yeah, he totally did.

Speaker: Also, I thought that was a real—I had to go back and rewatch that because I was trying to figure out he's sitting on the bench after the game where they win the conference championship.

Speaker: The announcers think he's crying tears of joy, but really he's very upset.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: And I had to go—I'm like, did James Caan kick him off the team and I missed it?

Speaker: It's like, no, he just looked at him and he was disappointed because he knew that he was back using again.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: And he's just like sitting there trying to like deal with that.

Speaker: I was like, dude, that was actually a pretty, that was a pretty well done moment because they could have been a lot more heavy handed about that.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And dude, I, um, you know, I am a huge sissy.

Speaker: So like my dad would be like, I'm very disappointed in you.

Speaker: I'd start crying right then.

Speaker: My sister, she's like, you're going to be really mad when you see the other stuff that I did.

Speaker: Like, yeah.

Speaker: Same thing with my kids.

Speaker: Jake, he'll cry the drop of a hat if he knows we're upset with him or he disappointed us.

Speaker: But like Cece, she's a serial killer.

Speaker: She's got the crazy roid eyes.

Speaker: She's not going to.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: She's painting her face like it's Halloween, smashing her head through car windows.

Speaker: Oh, wait, I recognize you.

Speaker: Start a defense, a place at the table.

Speaker: Yeah, by the way, the announcers were using the exact same microphones that you and I used to record our podcast.

Speaker: I did see that.

Speaker: And you know what else I noticed?

Speaker: There was one point where it was fourth down in the movie, and the guy said first down, but it was dubbed over for fourth down.

Speaker: Good catch.

Speaker: I did not see that.

Speaker: Because I guess they just didn't want to film that again.

Speaker: Yeah, well, yeah, you only got so much time.

Speaker: They spent $15 million on this thing.

Speaker: A lot of it was on face paint.

Speaker: My third character, I almost went Latimer, but I wanted to do Dwayne Davis.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He's Alvin Mack.

Speaker: He's the middle linebacker.

Speaker: I don't think it's the most important role, but he was just so good.

Speaker: Yeah, he was.

Speaker: He's huge.

Speaker: He's super intense.

Speaker: He has a couple of serious moments.

Speaker: He gets hurt, and so he's not going to go pro, and he's sitting back, and I guess his mom's like –

Speaker: Kind of like clapboard house.

Speaker: Yeah, dude.

Speaker: So wait, if you get hurt, you don't get to go on the sidelines anymore?

Speaker: I'm sure he could have.

Speaker: I mean, the game was at home, but I guess maybe he wasn't healthy enough to stand up.

Speaker: But actually, I kind of like that.

Speaker: In real life, yes, he could have been there.

Speaker: But I like that normally what happens in the sports movie is someone gets hurt, and then they come and encourage the team before the last game, and they're on the sidelines, and they're helping the coaching staff, and they're shouting out people, and they're an important part of the victory.

Speaker: I liked what this movie did, which is this guy got hurt, and no one even visited him.

Speaker: He just went home and was listening to the games on the radio.

Speaker: That's crazy to me.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So like, I'm sure that, I mean, you know, I played football with guys who got hurt and I still hung out with them, but I wasn't like going to be an NFL draft pick.

Speaker: So I don't know.

Speaker: Obviously the football we played is more like backyard, backyard football than like LSU football because it was tiny school.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But I liked that they did that and he was really good.

Speaker: Also like I found that Dwayne Davis, who, by the way, I think he's, is he our first three time actor?

Speaker: Because he's an under siege.

Speaker: Oh, he's an under siege.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Don't throw it to Stonehands.

Speaker: And he's a necessary reference.

Speaker: Don't throw it to Stonehands.

Speaker: Yeah, under siege and that's something like, dude, is he our first three-time actor?

Speaker: I'm not sure.

Speaker: That's great.

Speaker: Christy Swanson.

Speaker: We got a bunch of two-time.

Speaker: Sheffer, Christy Swanson.

Speaker: We've seen a lot.

Speaker: Joey Lauren Adams was in –

Speaker: days and confused yeah very briefly but anyway also duane davis uh said he based alvin mack on derrick brooks which is fantastic nice because derrick brooks was an absolute maniac yeah he's a bad man and i wanted to say that al duane davis his dad was a hall of fame defensive end willie davis duane played college football for missouri until he broke his leg and then his son is in the nfl right now he's uh wyatt davis

Speaker: Dang, that's pretty nice.

Speaker: I had no idea.

Speaker: That's pretty awesome.

Speaker: This dude's like a legit football player.

Speaker: And he was talking about how he's 250 pounds.

Speaker: I was like, wait a second.

Speaker: He's playing defense.

Speaker: That doesn't sound like that's big enough.

Speaker: But then I looked it up.

Speaker: Most linebackers, like.

Speaker: Oh, yeah, dude.

Speaker: Derek Brooks was in 200.

Speaker: They're like 220 pounds.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: There are some like huge, massive.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Like.

Speaker: Vaughn Johnson.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Like 220, 230.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I try to think of who my pick would be for best linebacker ever, and I pick Lawrence Taylor.

Speaker: So then you look him up, even in his peak, he was like 6'2", 6'3", probably 240 maybe.

Speaker: So that's probably right on par.

Speaker: I was just thinking 250 was too small to play defense, but...

Speaker: Well, Alvin Mack was a middle linebacker.

Speaker: Lawrence Taylor was a kind of really defensive end, outside backer kind of combo.

Speaker: So you maybe be bigger, but you're still talking about like Ray Lewis, like Dick Budkiss.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: You know, like those guys were not huge.

Speaker: I mean, there are some huge middle linebackers.

Speaker: But yeah, I think that like Ray Lewis was an undersized middle linebacker.

Speaker: He was like 220 pounds, something like that.

Speaker: Yeah, he laid the wood though.

Speaker: Point is that you and I are both way too big to play that position.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Yeah, that's what I was trying to get to to see if I can still maybe make it happen.

Speaker: Oh, man.

Speaker: I would be – even if I was an amazing kicker, that would be too much work for me.

Speaker: I would tear a groin trying to warm up.

Speaker: Oh, that's great.

Speaker: A kicker.

Speaker: The Lonesome Kicker.

Speaker: James Caan, as Coach Winters, was really good.

Speaker: He didn't make it into the... He didn't make it for me.

Speaker: I didn't like his voice.

Speaker: I don't know why he did his voice like that, or if that's what he always talks like.

Speaker: He seemed like he was doing a lot of exasperated Nick Nolte.

Speaker: God damn it, Chewbacca.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Like he was exasperated a lot.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Oh man.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I just didn't like it.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: And he has this thing with his right ring finger where it goes down towards his palm when he talks.

Speaker: And I didn't like that.

Speaker: Also, I felt bad for the people that took the time to mix the Gatorade, put it in the little cups and have it on the table.

Speaker: And they came in at halftime and he lost his mind and flipped the whole table over.

Speaker: But he made the backup quarterback clean it up.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He's like, Collins, get him up.

Speaker: Bobby Collins.

Speaker: I love Bobby Collins.

Speaker: He's one of my favorite comedians.

Speaker: My dog.

Speaker: I love my dog.

Speaker: My dog.

Speaker: Salsa sauce.

Speaker: Also, that floor was carpet.

Speaker: You can't be mopping up the carpet.

Speaker: Not with a towel like he threw to Bobby Collins.

Speaker: Speaking of which, wait, wait, real fast.

Speaker: Before I forget this, because I just thought of it.

Speaker: Bobby Collins.

Speaker: cheated on his, on his test by having his girlfriend who was James Kahn's daughter, the coach's daughter, take the test.

Speaker: And she was going to show up and try to pretend her name was Bobby.

Speaker: I'm like, that would have, I was like, that never would have worked.

Speaker: That's not, that's a boy's name.

Speaker: But then I realized who's playing that.

Speaker: And, and her name is Joey.

Speaker: So I guess that could have worked.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: The funny thing about that is that I have this in my bonus stuff.

Speaker: All of the crazy football stories from this movie actually really happened.

Speaker: So like the backup quarterback hooking up with the coach's daughter, that actually happened at University of Colorado.

Speaker: Latimer is based on a player from South Carolina.

Speaker: Sports Illustrated wrote about this guy, like the headbutting the car window and everything.

Speaker: That all actually happened.

Speaker: That's crazy.

Speaker: Like the backup quarterback.

Speaker: getting kicked out of school because the coach's daughter's cheating on the test for him.

Speaker: Like that really happened.

Speaker: Kane going, the quarterback going to rehab and the backup being reinstated.

Speaker: That happened at Penn State.

Speaker: Like all of this stuff really happened.

Speaker: I mean, not all at one school, obviously, but like in college football around this time.

Speaker: So when I'm reading about the other writer, the Aaron Latham guy, he was a contributor for like, you know, Rolling Stone and New York Times and stuff like that.

Speaker: He wrote an article and that's what inspired the movie Urban Cowboy.

Speaker: And it says another article inspired this.

Speaker: So is that one of the articles?

Speaker: Like he probably wrote one of those articles.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That talked about.

Speaker: Probably so.

Speaker: Like had all the like wild stories that David S. Ward then took and put into this movie.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That's awesome.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Which is perfect because we're at the writer, director, actor stuff.

Speaker: David S. Ward, writer, director, we already talked about.

Speaker: Wrote Sleepless in Seattle, did Major League, directs Major League 2.

Speaker: Wrote this movie with Aaron Latham, who was a journalist.

Speaker: Um, and then some of his articles got turned into movies, which he had some part in writing and I don't know how much.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Well, he wrote people work together on stuff.

Speaker: I don't know how that works.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I never know how that works either.

Speaker: Um, by the way, you also, you mentioned that he directed major league two.

Speaker: He wasn't involved in major league three, uh, but he is on board for four, which.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But four has been in development for like 11 years.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I don't think that's happening.

Speaker: Oh, come on though, man.

Speaker: Bring back wild thing.

Speaker: But it would be hard to ensure Charlie Sheen for a movie, I think, anymore.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, so – and that's really all the writers and directors is that one guy.

Speaker: But like I said, almost all the characters and storylines are based on real stuff that happened at real college programs.

Speaker: Like around this time in the early 90s, late 80s.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: They had a hard time finding the school to shoot the movie at because it had a reputation like it was going to make college football not look good.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Which I guess when it's realistic and that makes it not look good, that means that it really doesn't look good.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: That means it's not good.

Speaker: But like they ended up filming it at South Carolina, University of South Carolina.

Speaker: And then there's – dude, there's some funny stuff like Michigan wouldn't let them use Michigan as an opponent in the movie unless Michigan won the game in the movie.

Speaker: Oh, man.

Speaker: That's ridiculous.

Speaker: There's some schools like Georgia Tech and Mississippi State that didn't care, but Michigan – like you can't use Michigan in the movie unless Michigan wins.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: God, this is why people don't like people that like schools.

Speaker: Speaking of Mississippi State, when he's riding the motorbike and she's on the back, that was actually them riding it.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Like, you know how sometimes it'll be like a lower shot where you can't see they're on a truck.

Speaker: They were actually riding that.

Speaker: You're talking about early on when they're on the road or going slow.

Speaker: And then they start to go like, not the stunt riding parts.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And not to sound like Jonas, but they did change the bike tires halfway through.

Speaker: Cause they were all novelty dude.

Speaker: But it was also really them riding the bike when he got, when she got on the bike, like in the college quad and he rode down the sidewalk.

Speaker: I saw that.

Speaker: That's what I'm saying.

Speaker: Like that, that's weird to me that they would let a 33 year old junior that's been redshirted that many times drive her around.

Speaker: That's not good.

Speaker: Second thing is they played If You Don't Know Me By Now, Teddy Pendergrass singing with Harold Melvin and the Blue Nuts.

Speaker: That's what I'm saying.

Speaker: Good soundtrack.

Speaker: It was a good soundtrack.

Speaker: I'm glad Simply Red redid it, though, because it's a way better version.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: I like the Simply Red version better, too.

Speaker: Just wanted to mention that.

Speaker: My first worst is right back to the motorcycle.

Speaker: He tricks Christy Swanson into going on a date with him, which I guess is how he did it in the 90s.

Speaker: You gotta.

Speaker: And then she gets on the motorcycle after making it clear that she didn't want to get on the motorcycle, and she promised her dad she wouldn't get on a motorcycle.

Speaker: And he gets on.

Speaker: He gilts her into it.

Speaker: And then he's like, no crazy stuff.

Speaker: Don't go fast.

Speaker: And then he starts driving like a freaking maniac.

Speaker: And he's like, goes into the quarry and he's like wheeling around and he's shooting gravel out the side and he's like jumping off the hill.

Speaker: Jumping off stuff.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That's a super shitty thing to do.

Speaker: And she should have never talked to him again.

Speaker: Yeah, but I mean, you saw his hair.

Speaker: You gotta.

Speaker: He has good hair.

Speaker: He has great hair.

Speaker: He still has good hair.

Speaker: Look at him on Wikipedia.

Speaker: He's still got good hair.

Speaker: But yeah, that's a super shitty thing to do to a date to frigging.

Speaker: She doesn't want to get on the motorcycle.

Speaker: You trick her into it and then you start driving like a jackass.

Speaker: Yeah, I agree.

Speaker: I didn't like that.

Speaker: One of the worst that I had that I haven't talked about yet is the last play took 76 seconds from the whistle to the snap.

Speaker: And then he like did a tuck rule thing like and fumbled it, but then picked it up and ran with it.

Speaker: Yeah, but you're talking about like 10 years before there's a tuck rule.

Speaker: Right, right, right.

Speaker: I'm saying like he wouldn't get it now.

Speaker: If he was getting hit now while that happened, they would definitely call it a pass.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But yeah, I just, the fact that it took 76 seconds, that's, again, we talked about it when we said baseball's okay and not football.

Speaker: Like, you got more time between pitches if you need it.

Speaker: Yeah, well, a lot of it's in slow motion.

Speaker: But yes, it's not like that took 76 seconds of full speed real time.

Speaker: It was like slow-mo, multiple camera angles, repeating stuff.

Speaker: No, no, no.

Speaker: I'm talking about they blow the whistle and then they're walking back to the huddle and James Kahn's grabbing a guy and then sending him out there with the play.

Speaker: And then they walk out there and they're putting the women and children to bed and they're taking them and they're going to look for dinner and letting paramedics sort them out.

Speaker: And they're walking out and they're looking and they're audible and they're showing people in the crowd.

Speaker: And I'm like, what the hell?

Speaker: Let's go snap the ball.

Speaker: Like, did the guy not do the thing where he swings his arm and starts the clock?

Speaker: What's the deal?

Speaker: Oh, man.

Speaker: So it took 76 seconds.

Speaker: That's fantastic.

Speaker: The stunt double quarterback that did that throw, because they actually did that during the halftime of, I think, South Carolina and Tennessee game.

Speaker: Oh, nice.

Speaker: They came out.

Speaker: They filmed that.

Speaker: They had to do it during the halftime of the game, so they only had so many chances to do it.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: And they took 76 seconds to get all that.

Speaker: No, I'm just joking.

Speaker: Well, that part was important, obviously.

Speaker: But, yeah, no, the guy rolled out, and then when he drops the football, like he –

Speaker: he actually dropped it.

Speaker: It wasn't, he wasn't supposed to drop it.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: So like the slow motion of him running to get the football as it bounces and it bounces back into his hands and he throws it.

Speaker: That was not scripted.

Speaker: That was just like a happy accident.

Speaker: That's pretty cool.

Speaker: And then he throws it to fricking, uh, Omar Epps and Omar Epps actually did.

Speaker: It wasn't him.

Speaker: It wasn't a stuntman.

Speaker: It was him.

Speaker: He jumps up and catches it like drama school, Omar Epps, but just happened to hit him right in the belly.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: And it's like all that stuff happened live, unscripted, and that was the one we used.

Speaker: That's awesome.

Speaker: That's awesome.

Speaker: That's awesome.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: I don't have any other really worst, unless we want to go to worst effects.

Speaker: I have a couple of those.

Speaker: Well, we talked about the attempted rape and the sexual assault by the road raging Latimer.

Speaker: I'm going to hit that again.

Speaker: I had that down, yeah.

Speaker: And worst, obviously, because that guy should not only not be allowed to play football anymore, but he should be in prison.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I already talked about the Heisman finalist lives in the dorm.

Speaker: That was weird to me.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Wait, I do want to talk about that for a second too.

Speaker: When he was talking on the phone, which was an old, old phone that he had, he had a candle in a bottle like it was on an Italian restaurant sitting on his nightstand.

Speaker: And I don't understand that.

Speaker: Like why?

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Also, Latimer, can you just flush anything that fits down the toilet?

Speaker: No, I put that down too, down here at the bottom.

Speaker: When he gave up his steroids, like he didn't, and I know you like dump your drugs down the toilet.

Speaker: That's the thing people do in movies, but usually it's like pills.

Speaker: He puts syringes in everything.

Speaker: He put full-on syringes.

Speaker: He put glass bottles and just whoosh.

Speaker: Away it all goes.

Speaker: Drugs gone forever.

Speaker: We fixed that problem.

Speaker: It's like, dude, don't you h ave a trash can?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, but then you could find it in the trash can.

Speaker: If it's in the toilet, they'll never find it until it stops it up.

Speaker: Yeah, until it's stopped up right at the bottom of the toilet where you shit, I'm sure, 11 times a day because I was as big as a rhinoceros.

Speaker: How long before you don't test positive for steroids, do you know?

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Do you know?

Speaker: Yeah, I do.

Speaker: Urine test, 14 days, if you take it by mouth.

Speaker: If you inject it, it can be detected up for a month.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: So that dumping it down the toilet, it's not going to get him ready for the next game.

Speaker: Not going to get ready.

Speaker: But you know what?

Speaker: If you put the bladder full of clean urine, that also doesn't work.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: People still do that, by the way.

Speaker: Of course they do, because you'll still have some like regular urine in there.

Speaker: Yeah, your bladder never all the way empties out.

Speaker: So it's your urine in there too.

Speaker: The other one that I had was we talked about it briefly, but can you run a high-level college program with three coaches, head coach, offense, and defensive coordinators?

Speaker: That's all you need.

Speaker: I was curious about this, so I went and looked it up.

Speaker: LSU in 1993, it was five and six.

Speaker: You guess how many coaches they had on their coaching staff?

Speaker: 20.

Speaker: 10.

Speaker: Jesus.

Speaker: Do you know who was the head coach in 1993?

Speaker: Don't tell me.

Speaker: Gennardo.

Speaker: No, what's his name?

Speaker: No, before Gennardo.

Speaker: Curly Holman.

Speaker: Curly Holman.

Speaker: Who was the quarterback?

Speaker: Tommy Hodson?

Speaker: Dude, I don't know any of these people.

Speaker: Jamie Howard.

Speaker: Guess who's the wide receiver on this 93 team?

Speaker: Eric Martin.

Speaker: You're going to be so mad you didn't get this.

Speaker: Eddie Kinison.

Speaker: Eddie Kinison.

Speaker: I remember him.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: And guess who the tight end is?

Speaker: John Tice.

Speaker: David LaFleur.

Speaker: Who?

Speaker: Who?

Speaker: David LaFleur.

Speaker: No, I don't remember him.

Speaker: You don't remember him?

Speaker: He played for the Cowboys.

Speaker: The Cowboys?

Speaker: And Kevin Mowai was the center who played in the pros for like 16 years.

Speaker: I got nothing.

Speaker: Only thing I looked up is because he was going to win the Heisman.

Speaker: I wanted to see who actually won the Heisman in 93.

Speaker: Do you know who won?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: He didn't get drafted.

Speaker: He was one of the only guys to not.

Speaker: Oh, Charlie Ward.

Speaker: Charlie Ward.

Speaker: Florida State.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Ended up playing for the Knicks.

Speaker: Played for the Knicks.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, dude.

Speaker: LSU is five and six and has 10 coaches.

Speaker: And this bowl eligible team, Simulon, only has three coaches.

Speaker: That's pretty awesome.

Speaker: I want to take you on a quick stroll down memory lane through the Curly Hallman era LSU teams.

Speaker: Dude, I don't remember Curly Hallman.

Speaker: Did you ever get Charlie Ward confused with Andre Ware?

Speaker: Do you remember Andre Ware?

Speaker: Played for Houston and had like a thousand million yards a game?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He won the Heisman also.

Speaker: I used to get those confused.

Speaker: I just didn't know if you did also.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: You got FX or?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Two things.

Speaker: The voiceover smack talk that we talked about.

Speaker: I hate it.

Speaker: Like I hated it.

Speaker: It was so not good.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: That was bad.

Speaker: I didn't like it.

Speaker: Also the ESU bus that pulls up and drops off Omar Epps needs breaks bad.

Speaker: I don't know if they were trying to make it sound like a bus breaking, but every time it happened, it was bad.

Speaker: And the amount of penalties that,

Speaker: frigging Stonehands got hurt on a crackback block.

Speaker: Was that not a thing back then?

Speaker: Could you crack back?

Speaker: Because like they even said like on the long like punt return that Omar Epps had, he was like, oh, beautiful crackback block at the 30 yard line.

Speaker: Then I started thinking, like, I thought those were illegal.

Speaker: Or is that only illegal now?

Speaker: Well, I don't – it is illegal now, but I think even now between the tackles, it's legal.

Speaker: I think it's only outside in the open field that it's illegal.

Speaker: I got you.

Speaker: Yeah, I'm pretty sure he got hurt on a legal play.

Speaker: The weird thing to me is that I guess maybe in 93, like, he broke his leg or something, but, like, that wouldn't be a career-ending injury now.

Speaker: Maybe it would have been 30 years ago.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: That shit was pointing the wrong way when he was laying on the field, though.

Speaker: Yeah, dude, it totally was.

Speaker: But who's the Miami running back that got his shit like totally destroyed?

Speaker: And then Willis McGahee?

Speaker: Yeah, that sounds right.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He played for the Bills.

Speaker: Well, yeah, but I'm saying in college.

Speaker: Oh, Miami Hurricanes.

Speaker: Like his shit got absolutely destroyed.

Speaker: And then he played, yeah, for like 10 years in the NFL.

Speaker: But anyway.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Medicine's better than it was in 93.

Speaker: Yeah, we know more about knees.

Speaker: So five questions.

Speaker: Is it OK for kids?

Speaker: Definitely not.

Speaker: No, no, it's not.

Speaker: It's R-rated.

Speaker: It's all right.

Speaker: I didn't, I didn't.

Speaker: Oh, dude, I put it at the bottom and I didn't even see it.

Speaker: They gave him Omar Epps $50 per game.

Speaker: And then Stonehenge said, you can't live off no $500 a month scholarship.

Speaker: And then he said, they get 3 million just for going to a bowl game.

Speaker: So I decided to look up the Duke's Mayo Bowl.

Speaker: How much do you think the teams get for that?

Speaker: You mean now?

Speaker: Yeah, now.

Speaker: I don't know, like $15 million?

Speaker: Jesus Christ, no.

Speaker: 4.7.

Speaker: 4.7.

Speaker: Dude, I don't know.

Speaker: Yeah, 4.7.

Speaker: I don't even know if the Duke's Mayo Bowl game is like a big bowl game or a shitty... What's the...

Speaker: The one that I always use as an example.

Speaker: Yeah, the Pop-Tarts Bowl or like the Weed Whacker Bowl.

Speaker: Yeah, there is definitely a Weed Whacker Bowl.

Speaker: Yeah, I just – I didn't realize that $3 million, if they get $3 million for a bowl game back then, that was actually not that different from now.

Speaker: But I wonder if back then they used to keep – because right now I think if you go to a bowl game, the money split between the entire conference.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: But I wonder if back then the school actually got to keep it all.

Speaker: Well, no, actually, so each conference gets $300,000 –

Speaker: for each school that meets the academic performance and is bowl eligible.

Speaker: So then the power five conferences, they split the 74 million between all of the schools.

Speaker: And then they get like, you know, 2.7 million just for travel expenses.

Speaker: If they have to travel or, uh, they get an additional 4 million.

Speaker: If they, uh, are part of a, a different conference.

Speaker: It's, it's ridiculous.

Speaker: There's so much money.

Speaker: I just, I can't, I can't imagine that travel, uh,

Speaker: Like, yeah, $3 million for travel.

Speaker: It's like, where are we going?

Speaker: Are we taking a space shuttle?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Or like when the LSU plays at the Sugar Bowl and they're like, we got to drive all the way to New Orleans.

Speaker: We need $2.75 million.

Speaker: Give it to me right now.

Speaker: That's crazy.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I feel like I could make my whole house float for less than that.

Speaker: In water?

Speaker: No, just hover above the air with big giant fans underneath it.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: Yeah, no kids for me.

Speaker: No, you can't let the kids watch it.

Speaker: Too dirty.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Would this movie get made if it were pitched now?

Speaker: Yeah, sure.

Speaker: Why not?

Speaker: Because I think the whole thing about them dealing with the fame is still a problem, but the money parts changed.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Well, and like Friday Night Lights is not that different from this, the TV show, not the movie.

Speaker: And that ran not that long ago.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But it was like, there was, they were freaking murdering people in that show.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I could see both TV and movie actually.

Speaker: Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker: Uh, did you do any recasting?

Speaker: Uh, yeah.

Speaker: So the James Conn, uh, the person who is the same age as him, cause that's how I do it.

Speaker: Omar Epps.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: So he should be the coach.

Speaker: 52.

Speaker: Halle Berry should be Zendaya.

Speaker: Omar Epps should be played by Hudson Yang from Fresh Off the Boat.

Speaker: Joe Kane should be Ice Cube's son O'Shea Jackson Jr. And Christy Swanson should be Meg Donnelly from the Zombies movies that my daughter loves.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker: I like that.

Speaker: It's a little diversification for you.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Well, this movie was actually pretty diverse.

Speaker: Yeah, it was.

Speaker: I think because they actually wanted people who could look like they played sports.

Speaker: So we actually got a whole bunch of people and not just like, here's seven drama kids.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: And the ages were pretty close too.

Speaker: Like Joe Kane was way off.

Speaker: He's 33.

Speaker: But everyone else I looked at was like 20, 22, 23.

Speaker: They're in the right range.

Speaker: They fit.

Speaker: They fit.

Speaker: Can you still watch and enjoy this movie in 2023?

Speaker: I like it.

Speaker: I actually think it's pretty tight and it's enjoyable.

Speaker: I'm not going to watch it a whole bunch of times after this, but I enjoy it.

Speaker: Yeah, that's how I try to rate it.

Speaker: Like, will I watch it?

Speaker: I will delete it off of Plex because if I want to be able to watch it, I can.

Speaker: But, you know, you know how I roll.

Speaker: I'll probably never watch this one again unless somebody asks me.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's all right.

Speaker: It's okay.

Speaker: It's not streaming anywhere.

Speaker: You got to pay for it on Amazon Prime like I did.

Speaker: Or you can watch the entire thing on YouTube that someone clearly like ripped from a DVD.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And if you do watch it on YouTube, you should check out the comments where people are arguing about when the tuck rule started.

Speaker: Because the first seven comments were like, here's all the things that suck about this movie.

Speaker: And I was like, is this Jonas?

Speaker: I got to check the screen name.

Speaker: But it wasn't.

Speaker: Ah, nice.

Speaker: Anyway, check out Patreon if you want bonus content.

Speaker: If you want to support the arts, five bucks a month gets you all the bonus movies.

Speaker: Next Patreon movie will be Uncle Buck.

Speaker: Next regular feed.

Speaker: Yeah, you saw what it was?

Speaker: Dude, just in time for National Cowboy Day.

Speaker: Just in time for National Cowboy Day.

Speaker: I love Tombstone.

Speaker: I can't wait.

Speaker: Dude, it's been a while since I've seen it.

Speaker: I can't wait to watch it.

Speaker: Oh, man.

Speaker: I loved it.

Speaker: And Val Kilmer is so good.

Speaker: And I'm very excited.

Speaker: It's going to be good.

Speaker: Can't wait to watch it.

Speaker: All of you.

Speaker: And Uncle Boy.

Speaker: He's cooking our garbage.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: Anything else?

Speaker: Thanks for listening.

Speaker: Bye, Candias.

Speaker: Let's put the women and children to bed and go looking for dinner.

Speaker: Yes, let's do that.

Speaker: Bye, Candias.

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