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130. Resilience: Lessons from Tragedy and Triumph
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In this powerful episode of the Especially for Athletes Podcast, we focus on the core principle of resilience. Shad and Dustin reflect on the inspiring story of Mason Sawyer, a former Utah Mr. Basketball and now high school coach, whose life was changed forever after a tragic accident that claimed the lives of his wife, children, brother, and nephew. In the face of such unimaginable loss, Mason found strength in the life lessons he learned through sports.
Mason shares how the simple advice from his high school coach—“life is 10% what happens to you, 90% how you respond”—became a guiding principle in his recovery. This lesson, often heard in the context of sports, helped Mason to focus on what he could control and rise above the overwhelming pain and grief. He reflected on how sports, through practices like controlling effort, attitude, and focus, prepared him to handle life’s most difficult challenges.
Dustin and Shad discuss the importance of resilience and how it can be built through sports. They emphasize that while we often focus on the outcome of athletic pursuits, the true value lies in how sports help young people develop character, work ethic, and the ability to face adversity. They also touch on the importance of mindfulness—taking a step back to assess situations and choosing how to respond, just like Mason did in his moment of crisis.
Join us for a heartfelt conversation about resilience, the life lessons sports provide, and why youth participation in sports can shape young people into strong, capable adults. Eyes up, do the work, and build resilience—because life will throw challenges your way, but you’ll be ready for them.
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Introduction to Resilience in Sports
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Welcome to the Especially for Athletes podcast, where we explore essential principles that empower athletes to learn life's most valuable lessons through sports.
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How are you, Dustin?
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Good, Chad.
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Good to see you, man.
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You too.
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So this week we're focusing on the principle of resilience, one of our core principles.
Mason Sawyer's Story and the '90-10' Lesson
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And I was thinking back to a conversation we had with Mason Sawyer,
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I think he was Utah Mr. Basketball, like years back, went to Boise State and then started coaching in high school.
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And I'm just gonna read this.
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Here's what we wrote about that.
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On July 25th, 2021, Mason Sawyer's life would change forever because of a sudden dust storm.
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A horrible crash occurred while Mason's family was returning from a family reunion that he was unable to attend.
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In that crash, Mason's wife, Courtney, children, Riggins and Frankie, older brother, Race, and nephew, Ryder, were killed.
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His son, Blue, was injured but survived.
Resilience Lessons from Sports
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And sitting there in the hospital, he reflected on a simple lesson he was taught as a high school basketball player.
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His coach would often bring him in and he would say, it's 90-10.
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90-10, you know, life is 10% what happens to you, 90% how you respond, which is a Lou Holtz quote.
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And he describes, I just want to play a clip from that.
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Could you even imagine that moment, Dustin?
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Like, I just can't imagine it.
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And this is what he said about how sports helped him build resilience, right?
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And it's just, I thought it was powerful.
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Here he is.
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I had a really good high school basketball coach named Scott Briggs.
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And he'd tell us all the time things like focus on what you can control, don't ride the roller coaster type of stuff, moving on to the next play.
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And, you know, it's funny because losing my family is such a big, terrible, sad story.
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But it's the simple little things, like the little life lessons that have helped me the most, honestly.
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And I never realized like how much I actually lean on those simple things I hear every day.
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But like focusing on what I can't control, that might be the biggest thing that's helped me.
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I have so much anger and pain and
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I can't even like misery all the time, but it just doesn't do you any good really.
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Because at the end of the day, you have to focus like, what can I do?
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What can I control?
Relativity of Life's Challenges
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Breaks my heart.
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Just sit there and listen to that.
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But here's the quote from that, that I would love your thoughts on and love to share with our audience here and the young people and parents and coaches who listen to this.
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He said, when this big, massive thing happened,
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It was the simple little lessons he had learned from playing sports that helped him address in a resilient way this big, huge thing that had happened.
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I thought that was so inspiring.
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What are you thinking?
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You know, two things, Shad.
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One is that
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You know, we talk a lot about sports is going to prepare you for life.
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And even when I've said it before to kids, I've always thought, yeah, but like, here's a perfect example of it.
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There's nothing you're going to ever experience at the worst of the worst that's going to prepare you for that.
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Right.
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Like the worst loss in a basketball game or football game or whatever.
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is not going to be even close to some of the things you're going to deal with later in life that are real life, you know, death and illness and, you know, tragedy that's going to happen.
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So, yes, it prepares you, but, you know, I think we need to be honest with the kids that it's going to get a lot worse than this
Mindfulness and Control
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at some point.
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However bad this moment is, you're going to have a time that's much worse than this.
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You are going to what you're going to find, though, is that right now this to you is the worst thing.
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And that's the thing.
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It's all relative, I think, to where you're at in life.
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Right.
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You and I can look back on things that happened to us when we were in high school or college or when our kids were young.
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And at the time, it was the biggest, worst thing to ever happen to us.
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Now we look back at it having had other things and realize that really wasn't anywhere close to as bad as this other thing was.
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Right.
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But it's, it's showing the kids that you can get through this later in life.
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You're going to have something a little bit harder, but you'll be more mature and ready.
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And because of this little moment here, you've kind of put on the Teflon that, that, that you need to absorb the next thing and you'll be okay.
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You'll get through it.
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Right.
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It's going to take time.
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It's going to be hard.
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It's going to hurt, just like this loss or whatever, this mistake you made in a game is.
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But you'll be able to go through it.
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But the truth or the key is to be, I think, you know, are totally truthful with them about the fact that
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it's going to suck.
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Like you may not have what happened to Mason happen, but you're going to have some really, really, really crappy times, but you're going to get through them.
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You know, you are going to get through them, not you can get through them.
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They need to know that they're going to, you know, you're going to do it because you've learned how to do it.
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You've got it in you.
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The other thing is this, this, that phrase, you know,
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Control what you can control.
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I've said it a thousand times.
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You've said it.
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You hear it.
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You read it.
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People talk about it all the time.
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That's one of those phrases I'm starting to think more and more is becoming so cliche that, you know, it's, yes, it's true.
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But how I, how do you can not worry about the things you can't control?
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Like I get it, but like in all actual, in practicality, how do you do it?
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Right?
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Like, I'd be curious your thought, like,
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And maybe we need to dig into this later or talk to a sports psychologist or somebody, but how do you actually not worry about something that you, you know, you had no control over?
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Yeah.
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You know, Dustin, that's a great question.
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I think sometimes we talk a lot philosophically, just I'm talking the world, you know, and say these cliche things, but how to do it.
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I honestly think there's a skill that could be developed here.
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It might be as simple as if it's a big life thing, drawing a line down the middle of a paper.
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Yeah.
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Things I can't control, things I can.
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If it's in a moment, in a game, we've taught those three things that are always within our control.
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Effort, attitude, and focus.
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I can control these things.
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And I think sometimes having...
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a mantra in your mind for those in-game moments, whether that's in life or in a game, right?
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Where you could just come back to, okay, this other team just went on a 10-0 run.
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What is within my control?
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Effort, attitude, focus.
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Let's go.
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Effort, attitude, focus.
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I'm just going to put my mind, focus on the play in front of me, focus on my effort,
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and I'm going to lift my teammate.
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But I think things like drawing a line down the middle of a page and just saying, I'm going through this really hard time right now, a breakup, you know, whatever it might be that these young people are facing or something as extreme as that Mason faced.
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If it's a big thing like that, I feel like that drawing a line down the paper, as cliche as that activity is, it's like, all right, just think of all the things going on in my mind, all the things I'm putting my emotion effort to,
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What of those things are within my control and what are those things are without?
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And I think sometimes just, it's called mindfulness.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Taking a step out of your own mind and observing your mind.
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What are my thought processes?
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Which ones are toward things I can't control?
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Which ones are toward things I can control?
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And then spending that limited emotional energy capital that you have on
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toward those things that matter.
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I think that's, I don't know what you think of that, but.
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No, I love that.
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It reminded me of a book that I got about halfway through.
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And as you were talking, I'm like, I need to get back to that, but it was actually a Buddhist book.
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monk who had written some things and, you know, that's what they, you know, that's that religion believes in this idea of mindfulness and, you know, their, from what I was gathering at this book was just the idea that it's just, it's life.
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Like, it's just, it,
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It just happens.
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Like it's all part of the deal and it, there is no like good or bad, or it's just kind of life.
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It's, it's just what, and so when stuff happens, instead of being like shocked by it or, Oh, I couldn't control that.
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Or I could have controlled that.
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It's look, it happens.
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It's just, it's what it's part of the process tomorrow.
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The sun comes back up again and you know, good and bad is going to happen and you know, it's going to, and just kind of, to me, it's just,
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Maybe there's the fact that we can't control anything.
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Even as hard as we try and stuff's just going to happen and it's going to be part of life.
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And the only thing maybe that we can't control is even attitude is hard when we say it.
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You can control your attitude.
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Okay, you tell me the person that's had something really bad happen to them and was happy.
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20 minutes later because they could control their can you control your emotions right like now effort that one i think we have that one we have 100 there's nothing there's no reason why i can't still try hard yeah right i can i can still wake up and
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leave the house and keep fighting.
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You know, I, even the, even the attitude stuff, if you really dive into it, it's, you know, there were probably a doctor or somebody that would say, I don't know, chemically wise, like if you're in this position, you can't control the way that your focus is.
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Right.
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We'd say that, but,
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Maybe you just anyway, but that's off topic.
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I don't know.
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I just I don't know that we can totally control our emotion or our attitude.
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However, we can take a step back and say, how should I respond?
Building Resilience through Mindfulness
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What's the approach for me?
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That's the mindfulness you're talking about.
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It's the pause button to say, OK, hold on.
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Something's happening.
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The roadblock is here.
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I've hit the roadblock.
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Right.
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Back before we just start trying to pound it down, step back and say, all right, what path am I going to take here?
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Because this is a thing.
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This is a chapter in my book here.
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Right.
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That's going to have life.
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Right.
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You know, so like we have kids making, let's say someone listening to this has a kid that is making choices that you don't love.
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I think what can I control the, the effort?
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Yeah.
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I could make great effort to connect with my kid and things.
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I think the attitude portion of that is I think too many people excuse stuff like flying off the handle.
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Yeah.
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Jerk to their teammates.
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Like, Oh, this is just how I feel right now.
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Yeah.
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It doesn't mean it's right.
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I think mindfulness allows us to take a step back like Mason did here in the hospital room, right?
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Like he's faced with this huge moment, takes a step back and says, okay, how am I going to respond to this?
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I think that's the mindfulness that builds resilience.
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And the ability to do that is really important.
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And there's probably no perfect way to do it.
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However, focusing on the way we respond to a given event is way healthier and builds resilience rather than becoming hyper-focused on the event that has happened.
Event + Response = Outcome Formula
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You shared last month, and Ohio State used to have it up in their gym.
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Urban Meyer wrote it in his book, but E plus R equals O. Event plus response equals outcome.
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And that event is that 10% of the equation.
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The response is the 90% that will get us to where we want to be.
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Yeah.
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I just want to go one other little direction
Prioritizing Sports and Life Lessons
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with this.
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I read something today that it's not like it annoyed me, but kind of you'll get it.
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But it says this, there's a.0296 chance that your child will become a professional athlete.
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There's a.0086 chance that your child will become a famous celebrity.
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There is a 100% chance that your child is going to stand before Jesus.
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What are you focusing on?
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Now, here's the part.
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Someone wrote, I wish I could show this to parents of my young men's group who constantly prioritize sports over church activities.
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Now, you might think, what is Chad doing right now?
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Like, what's he even thinking?
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Why are you going this direction?
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I would just... I am thinking that.
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No, I'm just kidding.
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I would just propose this.
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Yeah.
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As Mason's experience here suggests, I think sometimes we don't give enough credit for what sports does for our children.
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And sometimes I was in a meeting where someone asked a similar question.
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a leader of our church stood up and said, sports are not our enemy.
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The question you should have is how can I support the young person, not how can I help the young person support me in my calling?
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And I thought, wow, that's pretty profound.
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But you know, I wrote this blog post, Dustin.
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I wrote it a long time ago.
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It went viral, was changing everything.
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But I just wanted to read it here to close our podcast.
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I think it's important in light of what Mason said here.
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The other night, someone asked me, why do you pay so much money for your girls to dance?
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Well, I have a confession to make.
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I don't pay for dance.
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So if I'm not paying for dance, what am I paying for?
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I pay for those moments when my daughters become so tired they want to quit, but instead choose to keep going.
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I pay for those days when my daughters come home from school and are too tired to go to dance but go anyway.
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I pay for my daughters to learn to be graceful.
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I pay for my daughters to learn to take care of their bodies.
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I pay for my daughters to learn to work with others and to be good teammates.
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I pay for my daughters to learn to deal with disappointment when they don't get the part that they hope for but still have to work hard at the part that they received.
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I pay for my daughters to learn to make and accomplish goals.
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I pay for my daughters to learn that it takes hours and hours of hard work and practice to create something beautiful and that success does not happen overnight.
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I pay for the opportunity my daughters have had and will have to make lifelong friendships.
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I pay so that my daughters can be on a stage instead of in front of a screen.
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I could go on, but to be sure, I don't pay for dance.
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I pay for the opportunities that dance provides my daughters.
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I pay for them to develop attributes that will serve them well throughout their lives and give them the opportunities to bless the lives of others.
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And from what I've seen so far, I think it's a great investment.
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Now, you know, that was...
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with surprisingly to both of us, that just went like viral, but it's been changed and copied sometimes without attribution by tons of people.
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So if anyone's listening to this right now and thinking, oh, I've heard that, you guys can copy that.
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Yeah, I have proof that's not the case.
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But this goes to this experience with Mason and why I'm so passionate about youth playing sports, whether they're the star or a bench warmer on a team.
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I believe that there are life lessons that our kids learn, including resilience and
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that they learn from sports that they can learn in very few other ways.
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And Mason is just a testimony to that.
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This big, huge event happens.
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It was the simple life lessons that he learned during sports that helped him deal with this huge event.
Role of Sports in Building Resilience
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Any closing thoughts on this, Dustin?
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Uh, then just as parents, we have, if we keep that in mind, as hard as it's going to be, we, I've beat this to death over the years that, uh,
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We have to let our kids experience that so they can have that life lesson.
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It's hard to teach a kid if you worked really hard,
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learned how to work hard at a young age, working on a farm and whatever it is.
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And then you turn that into a work ethic that you built a successful company and you, and you live now in a super, you know, rich area.
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Your son doesn't work on a farm.
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Your daughter doesn't work on a farm now.
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So how do you teach your son and daughter the things that you learned that helped you grow?
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be what you are.
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You know, one of the things that we have that we had 20 years ago and 50 years ago and a hundred years ago is sports.
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That's one thing that they still do.
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They learn how to work hard.
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They learn how to win.
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They learn how to lose.
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They learn how to work with others.
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They learn how to be criticized.
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They learn how to have to answer to somebody and be embarrassed.
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And these are things that if we let them learn those things and we don't step in and
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allow them to enjoy the wins and allow them to enjoy the praise and the compliments.
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But when all the negative stuff happens, we swoop in and under the badge of parent, protect my child,
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don't allow them to have those things that someday later in life, when real life punches them in the face, we want them to be ready for that.
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And so we have to allow them to do that.
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And that's our job as parents.
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It's really hard.
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to step away and say, you know what, maybe back to the mindfulness to step back and say, is this one of those moments, as hard as it might be for a bit, that my son or daughter is going to refer back to in 30 years from now when they're going through something and say, I learned I could get through it.
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And we have to be smart enough and mindful enough to say, yeah, this could be a teaching moment.
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I'm going to back away here as much as I want to get involved because I think I can fix the problem or avoid help them avoid the pain.
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Right.
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To step back and say, no, maybe them feeling some of this and going through the process of figuring this out.
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It's a good thing in 30 years from now.
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That's seeing the big picture and not next week's game.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
00:19:22
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And next week, social media post, you know?
Impact of Sports on Communities
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Yep.
00:19:25
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And that's why maybe that post that I read bothered me a little bit as it's kind of looking myopically at sports.
00:19:32
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That sports is about scholarships and becoming famous and becoming... Playing.
00:19:37
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Right.
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And it's like, no, you miss it.
00:19:40
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Like, if that's the way parents are looking at this...
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they are missing it.
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And if that's the way people from the outside are looking at kids who play sports going, why in the world would you pay for all this?
00:19:50
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And why would you do all that?
00:19:52
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The most essential things are not sports.
00:19:55
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And it's like, yeah, that's true, but you're missing why most parents
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help their kids participate in sports is it's those life lessons, the building of resilience, the building of being a good teammate.
00:20:08
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That's the stuff that we should care most about.
00:20:11
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And I think it's that when people look at those who engage in sports and think, wow, they're just wasting their time.
00:20:17
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I think they're missing the whole point of why so many parents are passionate and communities are passionate and schools are passionate about providing the gift of sport.
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to their kids.
00:20:27
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So don't, but don't you think us as parents too, we have to make sure, cause I can, I could see even myself, I'm checking myself as you said that right there.
00:20:37
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I think it's good for us to look in the mirror and be honest with ourselves.
00:20:41
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Am I really, cause we all say it, right?
00:20:43
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Anyone listening to this is saying, yeah, yeah, that's right, Chad.
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And I'm that way.
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And for me, it's about all those things.
00:20:48
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And yeah, I'm not doing it for these other reasons.
00:20:51
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I'm not doing it for the attention my kid's going to get if he starts.
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I'm not doing it for the scholarship or the award or whatever.
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Really?
Parental Motives in Youth Sports
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Like we need to be honest with ourselves and say, really?
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Like what's the really like peel back, you know, are we peel back the onion here?
00:21:07
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What are we really doing it for?
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And be honest with ourselves, because if that really is the case and we are part of the group that is doing it for all those lessons,
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then we need to step back and maybe not say what we say about the ref or the coach or, you know, the whatever we need to step back and just support and be positive and let it be that be what it is, whatever it becomes, you know, and then deal with it and then count on how you respond.
00:21:38
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Just like Jason taught.
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Exactly.
00:21:40
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Yeah.
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I love it.
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Awesome.
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Eyes up.
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Do the work.
Conclusion and Motivation to Be Resilient
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Everyone be resilient.
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Thank you for joining the Especially for Athletes podcast.
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