A conversational interview hosted by Dustin Smith, alongside Justin Miller, with former NFL quarterback Ty Detmer. The coaches discuss the evolving landscape of youth sports, contrasting the mindset and environments of modern student-athletes with past generations. They dive deep into the impacts of social media, the complexities of the modern college recruiting system, and the timeless importance of football IQ, baseline fundamentals, and mental preparation.

00:32:17 - The Impact of the Smartphone Era on Young Athletes
00:40:01 - The Evolution of Coaching Delivery
00:43:09 - Ty's Recruiting Experience and Navigating the Recruiting Process Today
00:49:59 - Preparation and Taking Advantage of Opportunities
00:55:25 - Embracing Where Your Feet Are in High School
00:58:50 - Developing Your Attributes
01:01:57 - How Offensive Football Continues to Change
01:07:22 - Modern QB Coaching
01:13:57 - Ty's Mentors Throughout His Career
01:18:59 - A Message to Incoming High Schoolers and Parents

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Credits: Hosted by Dustin Smith
Produced by E4A and IMAGINATE STUDIO

167. Anchored Where Your Feet Are with Ty Detmer

In this episode of the Sportlight Podcast, Shad Martin and Dustin Smith revisit a powerful lesson from Paralympian and former BYU football player Jeff Griffin. After a tragic accident ended Jeff’s dream of playing football, he learned that resilience is not always about refusing to quit—it is sometimes about having the courage to redirect your energy and dream a new dream. This episode is especially meaningful for athletes facing graduation, transition, disappointment, or the closing of a chapter.

Key Takeaways

 1. Resilience sometimes means redirecting, not quitting.
    When one door closes, the challenge is to take the lessons, discipline, and strength you gained and put them toward something new.
 2. Some dreams have a shelf life.
    Athletic careers, seasons, and chapters eventually end, but the growth from them can last forever.
 3. The lessons of sports are not reserved for stars.
    Every athlete can learn discipline, sacrifice, teamwork, toughness, and how to pursue a worthy goal.
 4. Don’t stop dreaming just because one dream ends.
    A closed door may be the beginning of a better chapter.
 5. Where your focus goes, your energy flows.
    Part of maturity is deciding where your energy belongs next.

Chapter Timestamps

00:32:17 — Introduction to the Episode  

Shad and Dustin introduce the format and the focus on powerful clips from past guests.

00:32:55 — Jeff Griffin’s Story  

Shad introduces Jeff Griffin, a former BYU football player and Paralympian whose life changed after a 40-foot fall.

00:34:22 — When a Dream Ends  

The discussion turns to athletes graduating or facing the end of their playing careers.

00:38:53 — Dreaming a New Dream  

Shad introduces the central idea: resilience includes knowing when to dream a new dream.

00:39:35 — Is Redirecting the Same as Quitting?  

Dustin reflects on the difference between quitting and moving on with purpose.

00:42:04 — Redirecting Energy  

Shad explains that redirecting energy is different from giving up.

00:46:46 — Dreams Have a Shelf Life  

Dustin shares that some goals are lifelong, while others are meant for a season.

00:49:22 — Lessons from Sports Continue After Sports End  

Shad emphasizes that sports prepare athletes for future goals, even after their playing days are over.

00:51:12 — Living a Dream You Didn’t Know You Had  

Shad shares Ammon Montenegro’s example of redirecting from football to cheer.

00:53:29 — Closed Doors Can Open Better Doors  

Shad reflects on how Jeff Griffin may have done even greater things because of the door that closed.

00:55:24 — Asking, “What’s My New Dream?”  

Shad shares a personal reflection about becoming an empty nester and redirecting energy in life.

00:56:09 — Final Thoughts  

Dustin reminds listeners that yesterday’s dreams can prepare us for tomorrow’s greater purpose.

00:58:03 — Closing Message  

Athletes are encouraged to get after it during the summer and, when needed, dream a new dream.

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Credits: Hosted by Shad Martin & Dustin Smith

Produced by E4A and IMAGINATE STUDIO

166. Dream a New Dream

In this episode of the Especially for Athletes podcast, Dustin Smith and Shad Martin revisit a powerful insight shared by former NFL All-Pro Eric Weddle about the “fine line between average and great.” What follows is a deep discussion on consistency, sacrifice, self-motivation, preparation, humility, and the daily habits that separate people who merely dream from people who actually develop greatness.

The conversation explores why we often romanticize greatness instead of recognizing the discipline behind it, why consistency matters more than motivation, and how small daily choices eventually become extraordinary outcomes. The episode also dives into practical ways athletes, parents, coaches, and young people can create routines of excellence and build resilient habits that last.

This episode is a reminder that greatness usually isn’t dramatic—it’s accumulated.

Key Takeaways

 * Greatness is usually accumulated, not inherited.
 * Consistency matters more than temporary motivation.
 * Small daily choices create long-term success.
 * Most people romanticize greatness because it removes responsibility from themselves.
 * Preparation allows people to capitalize on opportunity.
 * Humility is essential if you want to improve.
 * Motivation fades quickly; disciplined routines endure.
 * Sacrifice is often the difference between average and great.
 * Winning the battle with yourself is the most important competition.
 * Developing skill requires patience and repetition long before anyone notices.

Main Topics & Timestamps

15:23 — Why revisit old podcast moments?

Dustin and Shad explain the new podcast format and why certain past conversations deserve deeper attention.

19:29 — Why do we romanticize greatness?

Discussion on why people often attribute success to talent instead of discipline and sacrifice.

24:04 — Capitalizing on opportunity

The role of preparation, timing, and work ethic in becoming successful.

26:52 — Greatness is accumulated

Why consistency matters more than flashes of motivation.

28:38 — “You’ll never go broke taking a profit”

A football analogy about small victories and daily progress.

32:03 — Motivation vs. consistency

Why self-motivation matters more than external inspiration.

35:39 — Tactical plans create progress

How routines and daily habits help athletes avoid procrastination.

38:33 — Humility and seeking mentorship

Why improvement requires asking successful people for help.

43:09 — Routine creates greatness

Building systems and habits instead of waiting to “feel motivated.”

46:11 — Talent vs. skill

Why talent alone is never enough without disciplined development.



Full Episode with Erik Weddle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWnB-UzhfdY&list=PLjow7UW4zcvU3CC2U5jUnrGEIbhbwhm0b&index=115

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Credits: Hosted by Dustin Smith & Shad Martin

Produced by E4A and IMAGINATE STUDIO

165. The Fine Line Between Average and Good

What separates athletes who reach their potential from those who fall short?

In this episode of the Especially for Athletes podcast, Dustin Smith sits down with Brandon Doman (former San Francisco 49er and BYU QB & Coach) and Justin Miller (former Southern Utah University QB) for a powerful conversation about preparation, self-belief, opportunity, grit, patience, and leadership.

With more than 30 years of combined coaching and playing experience, Coach Doman and Coach Smith share lessons learned from working with elite athletes at the high school, collegiate, and professional levels. Together, they discuss what young athletes, parents, and coaches often overlook in the pursuit of success and why character, consistency, and belief matter just as much as talent.

One message stands out throughout the conversation:

“If your heart believes it, you can achieve it.”

This episode is packed with practical wisdom for athletes chasing big goals and for the parents and coaches trying to guide them the right way.

In this episode, we discuss:

 * Why grit and patience matter more than instant success
 * How preparation creates confidence and opportunity
 * The overlooked qualities of effective leadership
 * What separates athletes who last from athletes who fade
 * Lessons learned from coaching elite competitors
 * How belief impacts performance and long-term growth

This is a must-listen for athletes, coaches, and parents who want to better understand the mindset required to compete and lead at a high level.

Please listen, share, and leave a review if you are enjoying the show.

Message from E4A Founder Dustin Smith:

As we wrap up the 2025–2026 school year, the Especially for Athletes program is stronger than ever. We owe a huge thank you to all of you for your continued support.

We are now heading into our 15th year. The “Eyes Up, Do the Work” message has reached tens of thousands of people in person and over a million more through social media, our podcast, and various media outlets.

This summer, we are focused on improving our program and making it even more accessible. We will be fundraising and seeking sponsors to keep costs low—or free—for teams, schools, and clubs. We remain diligent in our search for leaders committed to improving culture and community for our young people.

If you have ideas or stories of “Eyes Up, Do the Work” that you would like us to share, please reach out.

Thank you for believing in our mission.

Learn more at E4A.org



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Credits: Hosted by Dustin Smith 

Produced by E4A and IMAGINATE STUDIO

164. Grit, Preparation & Leadership with Brandon Doman & Justin Miller

In this week’s Especially for Athletes podcast, professional golfer and former BYU standout Keanu Akina shares what it really means to “Win the Hour”—and why smart work beats just working harder. From grinding alone across Europe to learning how sleep, nutrition, and balance actually fuel performance, Keanu opens up about the unseen challenges of chasing a dream at the highest level. He also shares powerful insights on resilience, letting go of mistakes, and discovering your true purpose beyond your sport. If you’ve ever felt pressure to do more, struggled to bounce back, or wondered how to balance ambition with sustainability, this episode will challenge how you think about growth and success.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:
Smart work > more work
Winning the hour isn’t just grinding longer—it’s doing the right things at the right time, even if that means resting, eating, or recovering.

You can’t outwork poor balance
Keanu learned the hard way that skipping meals, sleep, and strength training led to injury and burnout—taking care of your body is part of the work.

Let it go and play the next shot
Whether in golf or life, you can’t change the last mistake. Growth comes from focusing forward, not replaying what already happened.

Resilience is built in the hard moments
From lonely travel in Europe to tough tournament rounds, resilience comes from choosing to keep going—even when it’s uncomfortable or uncertain.

Your purpose is bigger than your sport
Golf isn’t who Keanu is—it’s a platform. True fulfillment comes from using your talents to bless others and bring good into the world.

You are where you are—now move forward
Like golf, life doesn’t offer many mulligans. Accept your current position and focus on the next right step.

CHAPTERS/TIMESTAMPS:

 * 0:16 – Introduction & Keanu Akina’s Background
 * 1:56 – Life After BYU: Marriage & Turning Pro
 * 4:31 – Playing Professional Golf Around the World (Europe Experience)
 * 6:46 – The Loneliness of Individual Sports
 * 8:46 – Team Sports vs Individual Mindset (Basketball vs Golf)
 * 11:46 – Win the Hour: Managing Time & Energy as a Pro
 * 13:36 – “Smart Work” vs Just Grinding More
 * 14:46 – Injuries, Nutrition & Learning to Take Care of Your Body
 * 16:16 – Balance as a Performance Advantage (Sleep, Recovery, Health)
 * 17:16 – Letting Go of Mistakes (Play the Next Shot)
 * 19:16 – Mental Game: Proactive vs Reactive Thinking
 * 22:16 – Learning from Past Comebacks Without Adding Pressure
 * 23:31 – Golf & Life Parallel: Play Where You Lie
 * 27:31 – Resilience in Golf & Life
 * 30:16 – Marriage, Growth & Becoming Less Selfish
 * 33:16 – Faith, Mission Experience & Finding Purpose
 * 46:16 – Your Sport Is Not Your Identity (The Sportlight Principle)
 * 49:46 – Rapid Fire Questions (Fun Segment)
 * 1:00:16 – Final Thoughts & Closing Message

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 * Website: https://e4a.org  
 * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EspeciallyForAthletes/  
 * X: https://x.com/E4Afamily  
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 * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmbWc7diAvstLMfjBL-bMMQ

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Credits: Hosted by Dustin Smith & Shad Martin
Produced by Shad Martin and IMAGINATE STUDIO

163. Professional Golfer & BYU Standout Keanu Akina

In this week’s Especially for Athletes podcast, former University of Utah tight end Cole Fotheringham shares how a simple shift in mindset—seeing your opponent as your “dance partner”—can unlock your best performance and change the way you compete. He opens up about overcoming fear-based thinking from coaches, parents, and within himself, and how learning to play free instead of fearful transformed both his game and his growth. If you’ve ever overthought failure, struggled with pressure, or wanted to compete with more confidence and purpose, this episode will challenge and inspire you to see the game—and your life—differently.  

Key Takeaways:  

Your opponent is your partner in growth.  

 * Your opponent is your "dance partner"- When you stop seeing opponents as enemies and start seeing them as the reason you improve, competition becomes a tool—not a threat.
 * Fear is a terrible fuel source- Whether it comes from coaches, parents, or within, fear leads to overthinking and tight play—confidence and freedom lead to your best performance.
 * Focus on what you can control—yourself. Comparison, stats, and outcomes pull you out of the moment; your effort, mindset, and preparation keep you grounded and effective.
 * Adversity is not something to escape—it’s something to use. Growth comes from staying, adjusting, and pushing through hard situations—not always taking the easier path. 
 * You play your best when you’re present, not in your head. The more you let go of past mistakes and future worries, the more you can perform freely and fully in the moment.

Podcast Timestamps: 

0:16 – Introduction & Cole Fotheringham’s Background   
3:41 – Current Situation, Injuries & Staying Ready   
4:15 – Compete Without Contempt (Phil Jackson “Dance Partner” Quote)   
7:16 – The Sportlight: Pressure, Recognition & Social Media   
10:01 – Mental Health & Pressure in Sports   13:16 – Adversity, Transfers & Choosing the Hard Path   
16:16 – Resilience Through Injuries & Mental Growth   
18:36 – Playing Free vs Playing in Fear   23:16 – Overthinking, Comparison & Being Present   
27:46 – How to Get Out of Your Head (Flow State)   
30:16 – Fear-Based Coaching vs Love-Based Coaching   
33:46 – Creating a Healthy Team Culture   
37:46 – Parenting & Coaching Without Fear   
40:06 – Don’t Let Fear Be Your Fuel   
42:06 – Overthinking Worst Case vs Best Case   
43:01 – Final Thoughts & Closing Message

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• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EspeciallyForAthletes/
• X: https://x.com/E4Afamily
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/especiallyforathletes/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmbWc7diAvstLMfjBL-bMMQ

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Credits: Hosted by Dustin Smith & Shad Martin
Produced by Shad Martin and IMAGINATE STUDIO

162. Former Utah Tight End Cole Fotheringham

We sat down with former Southern Utah University QB, and long-time E4A member Justin Miller. He reflected on how the principles of E4A have shaped him and helped him as he has navigated his athletic career. We also talked about the difference of being present and being engaged.

Key Takeaways from the Podcast

 * Being present is not enough—be engaged. True influence comes when we give our full attention to the people around us rather than simply being in the same room. 
 * Resilience matters more than a perfect path. Justin’s journey to college football included injuries and unexpected turns, but persistence and “stick-to-it-iveness” helped him stay the course. 
 * Influence multiplies across generations. Living good principles today can create a ripple effect that blesses people for years to come.
 * Athletes have a powerful opportunity to serve. The spotlight that comes with sports can be used to bless others rather than simply seek recognition.
 * Real impact requires action. Simply being around people is not enough—service, effort, and stepping out of our comfort zones are what truly make a difference

0:16 Meet College QB Justin Miller
0:33 Growing Up in California & Moving to Utah
2:36 Snow College, Romania, and a Broken Throwing Wrist
5:25 Walking On at Southern Utah
7:39 Turning Around the Southern Utah Football Program
10:52 How Justin Discovered Especially for Athletes
15:16 Life Lessons Sports Teach You
20:16 The Power of Resilience & “Stick-to-It-iveness”
32:16 Lessons Learned Outside of Football
42:16 Taking Risks Instead of Playing It Safe
57:16 Seek to Bless, Not Impress
1:04:46 Final Lessons from Justin’s Journey

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 * Website: https://e4a.org  
 * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EspeciallyForAthletes/  
 * X: https://x.com/E4Afamily  
 * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/especiallyforathletes/  
 * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmbWc7diAvstLMfjBL-bMMQ

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Credits: Hosted by Dustin Smith & Shad Martin
Produced by Shad Martin and IMAGINATE STUDIO

161. Record Setting College QB Justin Miller

In this episode, Tim LaComb takes us behind the scenes of one of the most memorable eras in BYU basketball — and reminds us that the real legacy of sports isn’t found in banners, but in becoming the kind of person others trust, love, and respect.

Listen to the full episode now and discover how integrity and goodness create greatness that outlives the game.

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Credits:
Hosted by Dustin Smith & Shad Martin
Produced by Shad Martin and IMAGINATE STUDIO

160. Former Brigham Young University Basketball Coach Tim LaComb

In this powerful and thoughtful episode of the Especially for Athletes podcast, hosts Dustin Smith and Shad Martin sit down with Cody Hagen, standout wide receiver at Brigham Young University, to discuss far more than football.

From elite performance and resilience to mental health, social media pressures, and competing without contempt, Cody offers a rare, honest look into the life of a Division I athlete navigating the sportlight with humility, faith, and purpose.

🔑 Episode Highlights

 * From High School Stardom to Division I Football
   Cody reflects on his journey from Corner Canyon High School to BYU, including his experience returning from a two-year mission and rebuilding his body for elite competition.
 * Training with Intentionality
   Practical advice for athletes preparing for high-level sports—especially those returning from time away—highlighting sprint work, explosive lifts, and discipline in small daily habits.
 * “Eyes Up, Do the Work” in Real Life
   Cody shares how this core Especially for Athletes principle has evolved for him—from noticing others in school hallways to being fully present in meetings, workouts, and relationships at the college level.
 * Winning the Hour
   A deep discussion on focus, distraction, and being where your feet are in a world full of noise—drawing parallels between E4A principles and the culture at BYU football.
 * Mental Health & Social Media
   Cody speaks candidly about why he stepped away from Instagram, the emotional toll of online criticism (including hostile DMs from adults), and why even “mentally strong” athletes are affected.
 * Competing Without Contempt
   Powerful insights into fan behavior, sportsmanship, and why tearing athletes down—especially after mistakes—misses the heart of competition.
 * Brotherhood & Team Culture
   Cody describes the culture under Coach Kalani Sitake: fierce competition balanced with love, accountability, and care for teammates—on and off the field.
 * Resilience After Disappointment
   Lessons learned from falling short of playoff goals and responding with composure, hunger, and renewed commitment during the bowl game and offseason.
 * Using the Sportlight to Bless Others
   From visiting elementary schools to mentoring younger athletes, Cody embraces the opportunity—and responsibility—to lift others through his platform.

💬 Memorable Takeaways

 * “No one wants to succeed more than the players on the field.”
 * “Even strong people are affected by what they read online.”
 * “If you want to perform better than most, you have to win each hour.”
 * “Everyone you see is fighting something.”

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Credits: Hosted by Dustin Smith & Shad Martin  Produced by Shad Martin and IMAGINATE STUDIO

159. A Conversation with BYU Wide Receiver Cody Hagen

In this captivating episode of "Especially for Athletes Podcast," we have the privilege of sitting down with All-Pro NFL Safety and New England Patriot, Brenden Schooler. Join us as we dive deep into Brenden's remarkable journey, exploring the core values of work ethic, resilience, and the invaluable lessons learned both on and off the field.  Brenden shares insights into his experiences playing under the legendary Bill Belichick, offering a glimpse into the mindset required to thrive in one of the most competitive environments in professional sports. From the relentless pursuit of excellence to the unwavering commitment to teamwork, Brenden's reflections on his time with the Patriots provide invaluable wisdom for athletes, parents, and coaches alike.  Throughout the episode, we uncover the defining moments that have shaped Brenden's career, from overcoming setbacks to seizing opportunities with unwavering determination. His story serves as a testament to the power of perseverance and the unwavering belief in one's abilities, inspiring listeners to embrace the challenges they face with courage and resilience. Whether you're a seasoned athlete, a dedicated coach, or a supportive parent, this episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to unlock their full potential and achieve greatness both on and off the field. Join us as we embark on a journey of self-discovery and empowerment with Brenden Schooler, a true champion in every sense of the word.  Key Discussion Points:  • The importance of work ethic in achieving success in sports and life.  • Insights into playing under the guidance of coaching legend Bill Belichick.  • Overcoming adversity and bouncing back stronger than ever.  • Lessons learned from triumphs and setbacks on the field.  • Advice for athletes, parents, and coaches on cultivating resilience and determination.  Tune in now to gain invaluable insights from one of the NFL's brightest stars

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Credits: Hosted by Dustin Smith & Shad Martin  Produced by Shad Martin and IMAGINATE STUDIO

158. All-Pro NFL Safety and New England Patriot, Brenden Schooler (Repost)

Especially for Athletes (“E4A”) is a movement designed to inspire athletes, and those with whom they associate, to maximize their athletic potential and to use their talents, social influence, and their "Sportlight" to assist and lift others. E4A is seeking to build a culture of athletes focused on changing lives through better use of the attention and influence that accompanies their position. E4A provides education, training and motivational tools to inspire athletes to focus on doing more, and becoming more than just a great athlete.Schools, teams, youth organizations, and individual athletes are encouraged to become E4A certified and join the growing group of athletes of all ages and skill levels including college and professional athletes in committing to the E4A promise and wearing proudly their Eyes Up-Do the Work wrist band.

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