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Episode 35 - Pumpkin Beers (feat. Clark Fetridge)
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On this episode we make up for last years snafu and drink some pumpkin beers with fan favorite Clark Fetridge. We discuss the highs and lows of these beers while Clark goes back in time to reveal what we thought about some of these via our Untappd check-ins.
Theme music provided by Myke Kelli (@mykekelli)
Outro provided by Fluid Minds (@fluidminds)
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Introduction to 'The Malting Hour'
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It's the haps on the hops, got yeast and speech It's the molten hour where we talk about our drink And tell you what we think, every other week And if we get drunk, well we might slur our speech Got the gift of hab, the friends who wish you had Join us for a drink, join us for a laugh Time is never wasted, wait you're getting wasted The molten hour here, people, people taking places
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Welcome back to The Malting Hour. I am your host, Brandon Weninger, joined always with Clark Fetridge. And our special guest tonight is Tony Golan. Hey, you killed it that time. Oh boy. Welcome to The Malting Hour, where we talk about beer, home brewing. If you don't know that by now, now you know. And if this is your first time listening, thank you. And if you have been listening, thank you. So double thanks out
Pumpkin Beer Plans and Past Failures
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there.
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We got a special show this this week. We are Revisiting something we tried to do last year, which is why we have our good friend Clark back with us fan favorite number one everything We're gonna do pumpkin beers last year We we struck out did not have pumpkin beers because we waited too long and this year we were able to get it So we thought let's do it in September because maybe you the listener will have a chance to go and get some pumpkin beers yourself Let's just get right into it. Do it. Well
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I need to know your history of the pumpkin bear. What history of the pumpkin bear? As Clark Petridge? As Clark Petridge, yeah. Now I'm Tony. You're back to Tony. You're Clark. And the other guy's Brandon. You bet. Well. What? Who wanted to be Clark? Geez. This is getting real confusing. I was not told about this before. Sorry.
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Well, I'll just go on anyway. Yeah, pumpkin beers.
Clark's Pumpkin Beer Journey
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Many, many moons ago, I guess I'd say at least 10 years ago, I started drinking them, specifically the Blue Moon version. Pumpkin harvest. Harvest pumpkin pumpkin. Something like that. Which I think I still like. I haven't had one in a couple years unless we had one on the show last year. I'm starting to remember. I don't remember. But I drank that a lot back in the day. And then when I started home brewing, I did harvest pumpkin, by the way.
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I brewed a number of years in a row, my famous Mr. Rumkin pumpkin ale. It is famous. Which I will say is probably one of my better home brews. It's very good. I use real pumpkin in there, canned pumpkin. Roast that, some nice spices and all that good stuff.
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But over the years I started getting a little sick of it. I had too much pumpkin and by the time October 1st came around. I was pumpkined out. So last year I kind of took the year off from pumpkin beer. I'm back into it this year baby.
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Great, great. That's, you know what, I am too. I'm ready to go all out this year. Brandon, what about you?
Brandon's Craft Beer Beginnings
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I feel like you and I, like you said, when we tried to record this a little while ago, we've already talked about it. What's your history?
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Yeah, I think my kind of foray into the pumpkin world, I didn't get into it until I got into craft beer. And I think Southern tier pumpkin was probably one of the first ones I had. That's the one that I remember distinctly. But then I also remember having an O'Fallons.
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Oh, aren't they out of Missouri, I believe. Their pumpkin beer was phenomenal. And those were the two like that I've always kind of looked for or tried to get. I haven't actually had pumpkin in a while. So that's been something that I've been looking forward to having.
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And actually, this year, I haven't had any pumpkin beer. And last year, again, because we were kind of waiting for the episode, I kind of wasn't like searching them out actively. Yeah, I didn't find any. And, you know, we kind of struck out on the show. So this year we made up for it immensely. I feel like we've got a handful, especially you, you did a mixed six pack. Right. Yes. Excellent. Excellent. Have you had any of those yet? I have not. Oh, good. I have been tempted to have what was beeping outside of my window. Knock it off. Sorry.
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Is that you with your very alarm? Check your pockets. Yeah, I really wanted to. I held off. And also, real quick, my experience with pumpkin beer, it's kind of the same as yours, Brandon. It's been basically Southern Tears Pumpkin was the Imperial pumpkin ale. It's the first one that I had. And then I brewed, I had warlock. And then I brewed a pumpkin stout and I brewed my own pumpkin ale. Any questions, pumpkin ale, one of my favorites.
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We also did an Imperial Stout, Brandon, you and I, the pumpkin slayer, which was very good. And Clark, you and I before have also shared a rum barrel aged pumpkin from Avery, is that rum? Oh, rumkin? Rumkin, yeah. That one's good, done salad. While eating huge cheeseburgers and like cheese fries. Yeah, it was like the best day at work ever.
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Anyways, so yeah, that's our history with pumpkin beers. We were smart this year. We grabbed some and anybody, if you're interested in getting pumpkin beers, I recommend getting them now because it is getting to the time where they will not be available. So get them, hold on to them. You don't have to drink them now. If you're here in Chicago, it's cooler out.
Tasting Cryptkeeper's Imperial Pumpkin Porter
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So anyway, you can start drinking them.
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So what do you guys say? You want to jump into these? Let's do it. Sure. Anyone's got a preference, because we have a couple that we're going to drink tonight. The three, for sure, that we're drinking together, and then maybe one at the end. So Brandon, what's your dealer's choice? Why don't you be the dealer, and you can choose.
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Um, actually, so I forgot to bring any beer over here. So give me one second. I'm gonna grab one as a surprise. Editors, no, we're gonna wait. Actually, no, we're not gonna wait. We're not gonna wait. We're gonna talk. Me and Clark and I are gonna talk about pumpkin beer. I don't know which one I'm more excited about. I'm not gonna spoil the surprises. I'm excited about all of them. You and I actually, this past weekend, ooh, I lied. We did try a pumpkin beer. That's true. Shit.
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That's kind of the one I, well, it's the one I've definitely had. Yeah, which I've had before. All right, ladies and gentlemen. Here we go, here we go. First up to bat, we have, drum roll, please. Reda-tat-tat. Reda-tat-tat. Rum-pum-pum-pum-pum-pum-pum-pum. We have Cryptkeeper's Imperial Pumpkin Porter. Hey! Oh, it's a porter? That's what, it's a, I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, I didn't even read that. Hell's Ruin. Where's Capone? Jeez, where is it from? I'm sorry, Brandon.
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Scorched earth brewing. Yeah, we're scorched earth out of. It is. Maybe Algonquin. Algonquin. That's in Illinois. Berwin. We need one out
Review of Southern Tier's Cold Brew Pumpkin
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of Berwin. I was gonna give that to you, Clark. Yeah, we're.
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I don't remember if I, when we first tried recording this, I had mentioned that we were two of us, two thirds were remote, or two thirds together, one third remote. Doesn't really matter now. Ooh, man, smells good. But we all have the same beers. Yeah, we do have the same beers, except for maybe the last one, we'll find out. Smells very pumpkin-y. Ooh. Mm.
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Yes. Dark and multi. Yes. Yeah. This is what I want. Man, so Imperial Porters, I don't even know, like, what does that mean? What does Imperial Porter mean? It's just a stout, right? Right. I mean, I'm not I'm not trying to knock scorched earth here, but it's it's a stout. They're not the only ones that do Imperial. Yeah. No, I know. I know. No, no, no, I know.
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But because we're having to be talking about an Imperial Porter, I don't make it seem like I'm just ragging on Scorched Earth. I feel like I've had something from Scorched Earth before and I don't know what it is. But anyway, what do you guys take on this? I think it's awesome. Yeah, each ship is a little different. Very dark, very malty. Tiny.
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Tiny hints of all those spices you get on the back. Yeah. I'm trying to, I mean, I'm sure. Tiny bubbles. Tiny bubbles. Makes them feel happy. Makes them smile. Yeah. It's, um, if you wanted to look at it or anything. Yeah. It's, it's not overwhelming as far as the pumpkin spice goes. You've got, um,
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I don't know, cinnamon, nutmeg, assuming maybe a little oil spice? So on the side of the can, it says, what's in the can? And it answers it for us. Oh, thank you. Beer. Yeah, beer stuff. Oh, chocolate malt. There you go. Pumpkin and butternut squash. Oh, hey-oh. Pumpkin pie, spice, and vanilla. So now that I see that it says vanilla, I'm getting that tiny hint of it.
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I am enjoying this. Yeah, Brandon, what are you taking away from this one? So I do feel like I'm getting more vanilla than anything off this. Well, I'm getting chocolate and vanilla. And then I think Clark mentioned it too, like the kind of like the back end is when you start getting that pumpkin pie spice. I don't know if I can discern like the pumpkin or the butternut squash in there.
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because the pumpkin spice takes over a little bit. But I'm assuming that the pumpkin and the butternut squash probably give a little bit to the body on this. Sure. Because porters are not normally this thick. No. And I'm not saying this is super thick, but it's got a lot more habitat. There's a good body to it, yeah. Yeah.
Expectations for Pumpkin Flavor
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But yeah, if somebody told me this was a pumpkin beer,
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I, you know, without knowing, I would say yes. If somebody gave this to me and told me it was like a Christmas beer, I could probably be like, OK, I could see that. Interesting.
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Well, we're gonna save a can and put it to the test this Christmas. We should, yeah. That's a good idea. Not a bad idea. That's the trailer for it. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I was just so excited for a pumpkin beer that I didn't even really, really think about what I was drinking. I just kinda cracked it open, took a sip, and I was like, yeah, there it is. Tastes like fall. So I'm being a terrible, terrible taster. But it smells roasty.
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kind of smells like chocolate. I definitely get that pumpkin spice and I think you're right when it comes to the pumpkin and the butternut squash being in there. I mean maybe that is what is attributing all this body. I mean it is an imperial porter. I would think if you're doing an imperial porter you're gonna want a lot of body because you don't have all that
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I mean, I don't know. Stouts, imperial stouts have better body. Yeah, but I don't know if I've had many imperial porters before in my life, if more than three or four. And if someone told me this was a stout, it was a nice, nice, not too heavy stout, but it's got a heft in it. If someone told me it was a stout, I would be like, oh, it's kind of a lighter bodied stout. Maybe that's the line you'd show. It goes porter, and then there is no imperial porter. It's just a stout. True. Oh, scorcher, you tricky SOBs.
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But again not knocking the spear in any negative way based off this like this is a phenomenal beer Yeah, I
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I've never heard of this one before. In fact, I feel like I saw more unknown, to me at least, pumpkin beers than I've ever seen. And I'm currently looking on a beer advocate. And apparently this used to be in like 20 ounce bottles, like bombers, or nope, those are 12 ounce bottles. They used to be in bottles before. And overall, it's got an 86 according to the beer advocate nerds. It's very good with an 86.
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If they say so. Yeah, if they say so, I guess. This is bottled fall 2016, drank 10 2016. I don't care where you drank this, sir. Cinnamon milk chocolate, mild pumpkin notes in the nose. Yeah, a medium thick mouthfeel. I wouldn't say thick. I'd just say a very medium full mouthfeel. Full is a good way to put it.
00:12:33
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Personally, I really like it. I think it's very good. And it's 8.3%, by the way. We didn't say anything about that. So the roasted, my favorite, we're gonna get to it, but my favorite style of pumpkin beer is the stout version. And that became my favorite beer to make for Halloween around that time. And it's funny because not many people
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like stouts and not making like pumpkin spice things. But that was one of the beers that I brewed that a lot of people actually ended up liking. But I didn't have having like, you know, a quarter of a keg left that carried me into Christmas. Yeah. Yeah, that was really good. That was that. I believe that was the what was it? Pumpkin slurry? Jacko stout. Brandon, actually, that was the one I brought it to your birthday bus. Oh, yeah. That one was awesome.
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We drink the Jack-O-Stops, which by the way, happy birthday as it is. Well, when this is out, your birthday has already passed, but happy birthday, buddy. Oh, happy birthday. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Sorry we're not spending it together going somewhere fun or Great Lakes Brewfest, but I'm sure you're going to have a great time with your family and stuff like that. Looking forward to it. Cool. Yeah, so overall, Braden, we tried doing this before, and we're going to try and bring it back again. We tried doing ratings of a beer when we tried it. I don't remember how we had it set up.
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But let's, I'm gonna give it out of 10. I'm giving this one right out the gate. I might be a little biased because I was excited to have a pumpkin beer. I'm giving this guy a seven.
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correct it's a seven welcome to the game interesting so if I were rating it as a pumpkin beer I'd bring it down a notch just because I wish there was a tiny bit more pumpkin okay let's let's let's clarify that yeah yeah we are I'm I'm specifically saying we're rating this as a pumpkin beer because that's what this episode is and I'm right about with you as a seven
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If this was just an Imperial Porter, I would have probably notched it up a little bit. Ooh, interesting. Okay, okay. Brandon? I think I'm gonna go six on this one. Ooh, you know, if you throw two more sixes after there, it's the sign of the devil. Oh, let's see how the rest of these beers pan out. All right, I'm keeping score here, and we'll see who ends up winning the most votes.
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Anyway, so moving on, most votes, most points. Cares. I have a question for both of you actually. With my pumpkin beers, I want the pumpkin, I don't want it hitting you in the face, but I want to know that I'm drinking a pumpkin beer. I don't know about you. Sorry, I just did the last sip of what was in my glass, and that was like full head.
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We still have a quarter of a can, but I felt like that was a big punch of like nutmeg in my mouth. Interesting. Sorry. But as far as, I like my pumpkin beers very pumpkin-y or with a lot of spices in them. How do you go about your pumpkin? Because if I'm going to drink one, I want it to taste different than the stuff I've been drinking all year. Sure. For me personally, I kind of like it in your face. I want you to know that you're drinking a pumpkin spice
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beer. Like that's I'm one of the few people who I know who I enjoy all the pumpkin spice crap. And I think it's hilarious when I see everyone complaining about pumpkin spice stuff online. Because guess what? Your original crap is still there. No one is making you drink a pumpkin spice latte. Okay. Sorry. That's my one rant for tonight. But yeah, I like I like to have it as as pumpkiny as as possible. Not like overkill, but I like it. I like to know that it's there. Brandon, what about you?
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I think I'm kind of the same way. I do like the way the spice is. The spice is pretty good, but I feel like I'm missing more of that pumpkin flavor. You know, because when I think of, you know, beers that say it's like, oh, it's a pumpkin pie beer, pumpkin, you know, whatever, like, I guess I kind of miss that.
00:16:42
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you know, the actual taste of the pumpkin you get, like, you know, and I imagine myself eating a pumpkin pie. There's very few beers that I've had that like have that. And that's what I look for. That's like if I if I get that, I'm like, that's a pumpkin beer. This I'm like, this is a pumpkin spice beer, like a little bit different, but still good, but different.
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Yeah, I'm with you on
Speculations on Pumpkin Beer Market Changes
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that. As you were talking, Clark and I poured the rest of our can into the glass and now looking at it, it's kind of hazy, like a light brown head on it. It was much darker when we were drinking it in the beginning and now it's kind of like,
00:17:27
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I feel like there's a lot of sediment in there, and I'm getting a lot more. As I said, I tasted that little punch of nutmeg. I feel like there's a lot of stuff just sitting at the bottom that I'm now getting. A little bit of bittersweet chocolate mist. Yeah. Like cloven nutmeg, too. Interesting. Kind of like what we were experiencing, but just a bit more. So I don't know if there's sediment in there or what, but yeah.
00:17:56
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Not bad. I would go to figure if this is unfiltered. There's probably some sediment in there that would hit the bottom. But yeah, that's the one thing. So I just poured the rest and I kind of shook the glass a little bit. And the first thing I noticed was clove.
00:18:16
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that is more prominent now. So and then I felt a little grit in my mouth. So I know my glass wasn't dirty, but it felt like I had like a spice in my mind, you know, something like crossover my tongue. And I was like, Oh, yeah, I'm close. It'd be nice to
00:18:33
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have this beer and pour it straight into a glass, you know, kind of like mix it up to see how it would have been. But again, I'm still standing by my seven. I'm pretty happy with it. Clark, would you like to choose the next beer? Let's move on from Scorched Earth. Sure. Cryptkeeper. Thank you.
00:18:52
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Uh, let's keep things a little heavy. Ooh. Oh boy. That's what she said. Do you get, uh, well, yeah, it's this. Yeah, that's, that's for the, that's for later. The, how about the coffee one? Oh yeah. Going with Southern tears. Oh, that's not heavy. No, it's okay. We can switch up cold brew pumpkin. Braden, you picked this one. I'm excited about it. But, uh, you want split.
00:19:19
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Start with the split. Split sees. Split sees, baby. Sorry, Brandon. You're on your own with not being able to split. I've got, yeah, there you go. Use your water glass. I'm like, I need to get another glass. Yeah. This whole remote, well, this is good. I mean, this is like, you know, a 12 ounce and not a 16 ounce. That's a brand new house, buddy. I gotcha. Wait a second. Thank you. No problem. Cool. This is clean. Not used. Didn't touch it. Perfect. Not more than five times. Ooh.
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Holy macaroni. I think. Creamy coffee. Yeah. Brandon's going to get a glass. We just poured the Southern, the Limited. When I was talking about Limited, this is it. But this is the Limited Southern Tier Brewing Company. Cold brew coffee pumpkin.
00:20:08
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Now, I'm sure most people, most of you, our friends and listeners are familiar with Southern Tears Pumpkin, which is pretty much, I would say the pinnacle pumpkin beer. Like that. I know other brands have their own pumpkin beer. You got, was it Pumpkin from Dogfish Head? There was Pump Kick from, shit, who did that? Oh, Pump Kick was New Belgium until they replaced it with
00:20:37
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like atomic pumpkin, which was like their habanero pumpkin beer. I miss pumpkin because that was cranberry and that was really good. But this is the first time I think all of us are having this on the show. The Southern Tier, cold brew, coffee, pumpkin, imperial pumpkin ale with natural pumpkin and coffee flavors. I will make a note real quick. So Clark was worried that we were going lighter. This one is actually 8.6. The other one was 8.3.
00:21:05
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That's right, the next one's 8.62. I don't know my beers. First impression, aroma, anybody? It's coffee and pumpkin. Yeah. I got a lot of like latte coffee. Yes. It was more like a latte to me than it was just coffee. And not like pumpkin latte, but like actual just straight up latte.
00:21:30
Speaker
Yeah, kind of like that vanilla essence, not so much straight vanilla, but the creaminess of a latte, that's kind of what I'm getting. Yeah. That kind of scent. Has anyone taken a sip yet? I did. Going in. I'm going in again. I mean, the mouthfeel almost feels like you're drinking one of those. Yeah. Latte. Yeah. As far as the flavor goes,
00:21:59
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Me personally, this tastes like a latte blonde or amber. I am right there with you. And that's, if that's what it was supposed to be. Yeah. I don't think it was. Well, it doesn't say anything about pumpkin spices. It just says pumpkin and cold brew coffee. I'm not getting a lot of pumpkin.
00:22:24
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So let me read what Untapped says about this. Perfect. It says, settle in with a smooth, roasty, cold, brewed coffee. Combined with pumpkin pie spice. The suspense is killing me. Each sip provides sense. What is happening? What is going on over there? Of comfort, like a morning's first brewed batch of perfectly roasted coffee. Can you read that again? I was distracted by what was going on.
00:22:52
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Settle in with a smooth, roasty, cold brew coffee combined with pumpkin pie spice. Each sip provides a sense of comfort like a morning's first brewed batch of perfectly roasted coffee. Oh, thank you. And just so you know, Brandon and listeners, there was nothing else happening. It's just Clark trying to read it.
00:23:10
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on the screen something with the headphones i'll explain oh excellent great there must be some uh i'm a couple seconds behind oh perfect we're fine so you can't read anything got way to read yeah i can't read nailed it on that second you did definitely way to burn through it man um i don't agree with that description
00:23:33
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me personally um i i don't get pumpkin spice um i get i do get like a coffee i don't know coffee blonde there's also like this
00:23:45
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cookie type, like wafer cookie, smell that I get when I smell it. Wafer cookie, that's a great pull. That is good. Yeah. You know those wafer cookies I'm talking about, they got all the cream in the middle? That real thin cream. Yeah, yeah. Oh, they'll make those cookies. Haven't had those in a long time. Well, let me ask you about this before. Let's make a beer with wafer cookies. Done it. There it is. Now there's two that already done it. How ideas are born.
00:24:10
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Seth H. Now, I don't know if you two agree with this. He says it has a forward taste of the smell of a racquetball court. How do you react to that? No need a lot of racquetball court. I feel that's a little harsh. Oh, he finishes with I will not be grabbing this beer ever again. But he did give it
00:24:34
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Three-quarter stars. Three-quarter. Oh, three-quarters. Wow, I went for the negative rating. Wow. Clark Vernon, I need you as a producer to just pull up random facts like that from now on. I'll just sit here all day. Welcome to the team. Brandon, what's your take on this, man? So I do not agree with the racquetball comments. Seth H. I thought you were my boy. Seth H.
00:25:02
Speaker
No, but it's it's crazy that you said that wafer wafer cookie, because I totally get that. I am missing what it what it kind of tastes to me. And like even the mouthfeel is like a watered, you know, if I had a cold brew latte, like a cold latte and the ice melts and it gets a little thinner.
00:25:27
Speaker
Like that's the mouthfeel that I get, you know, so it's not as full body, you know, it's not as creamy as it could be. And I'm not getting much pumpkin. I'm getting like subtle hints of pumpkin spice, but not even enough to like.
00:25:43
Speaker
where I could discern that this is a pumpkin beer. If somebody told me this was a vanilla latte beer, I would probably believe that a little bit more than a pumpkin. It's kind of the instant coffee. Not that I drink a ton of instant coffee, but this is- We're not judging. We're not judging. Okay.
00:26:01
Speaker
Hey man, I drank that shit when I was on my honeymoon. That stuff was awesome.
Review of New Holland's Ichabod
00:26:04
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There you go. But I'm getting that instant coffee smell slash flavor. Yeah, I can't get over the wafer. That's where I'm at.
00:26:17
Speaker
vanilla wafer not even coffee um and so southern tier for me personally i enjoy two beers from them the most which is straight up pumpkin and warlock which is their pumpkin stout now i'm not talking shit about southern tier but i've had a couple of their beers where
00:26:41
Speaker
And I love vanilla, but their creme brulee is intense. It's very sweet. I remember buying it one time and being like, oh, I can't wait to have this. And this is someone who enjoys pastry stouts now, but this was way back then.
00:26:55
Speaker
back then being like six years and I just, I couldn't get into it. I tried doing it again. I got their hot chocolate one and I thought the same thing. It was just very sweet. They're very heavy handed with some of these flavors and vanilla being one of those. Now I'm not saying that this is a bad beer. If this was like a wafer cookie, well, let's see.
00:27:18
Speaker
a wafer cookie amber. I would, and I tried it, I'd be like, holy shit. They nailed it right on. I just don't get a lot of, I get more vanilla than coffee, and I get that wafer cookie over pumpkin. So I just feel like I'm not, I don't dislike this beer. I would buy it again, but not while I was looking for a pumpkin beer.
00:27:49
Speaker
With that being said, I'm giving it a pumpkin beer rating of a three. Ooh, wow. I'm not being a jerk, but we're rating it on pumpkin. Fair enough. Fair enough. And I gave it that score only because I like the beer, but it's not a pumpkin beer to me. Very fair. I was thinking five, but you're right. We should be judging these based on the category of pumpkin beer. That's the idea. So I'm bringing it down to a four. Ooh.
00:28:19
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Clark, sink into my level of being nasty.
00:28:24
Speaker
Brandon, are you with us? Are you against us? Because there's no wrong answer. It's our own damn show. Until Tony says so. I'm not being a jerk. I'm just gonna be one. And this beer, hold on, let me take another sip. This pumpkin beer. Let's emphasize that we're talking pumpkin here, baby. Out of 10, right? Out of 10. Pumpkin beers out of 10. I feel like I have to go back to the last one just to get like
00:28:50
Speaker
You know what? Actually, I have. Oh, hey, we got a little I got a little poor here. I'm going to do something real quick. Oh, a splash. That was just mixed. Yeah, see. Yeah, this is a four for me. I was right. Do you want to do it? I don't know. COVID. I split. I put a splash of. You want a little COVID? You want a little COVID? That's that joke. That's that joke. I put a we did. I put a little splash of the Crypt Keeper in.
00:29:19
Speaker
the, the, the, the cold brew pumpkin. And I'm going to take a sip right now. Smells like wafer cookie still. The wafer cookie has wrecked my palate. Uh, cheers to Southern Tier for doing that to me again with a beer like this, just like your creme brulee. Oh boy. I think that's the issue though. It's just like whatever
00:29:43
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Maybe they're using vanilla or whatever they're using to get some vanilla flavor in there. It's too much. Yeah. And taking a sip of that mixed beer, I had a little tingle on my throat. I think it's from whatever sediment is from that last beer. I would like to try this, though, if there was a hefty helping of pumpkin pie spice to see how that would make a difference. Yes. But there's not. So that's our request for next year. Southern Tier, hear us out.
00:30:12
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Oh, man, if I get a check to see if I have some, I'd be good to do like press. Oh, that's a good idea. I, one random question. Have either of you ever done a bourbon County French press with either pumpkin or pumpkin pie spice or something? No, but I think we should maybe time. What are you guys doing this weekend?
00:30:35
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I'm not here. Neither are you. That's right. Crap. Sometime in the near future, whenever we decide to do the Bourbon County French press episode, that'll be one of them. Well, that's two down. And I think it's time for a break. And let's do it. Let's take a break, right, guys? Do you guys want a break? Yeah, let's do it. Breaking.
00:31:19
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to town Spreading wisdom and cash around
00:31:55
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We'll keep us on our knees The red will be the pumpkin The red will be the pumpkin
00:32:56
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We must follow
Reflecting on Personal Preferences
00:33:55
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Who would give us all our needs? A rainbow beat of pumpkin A rainbow beat of pumpkin A rainbow beat of pumpkin A rainbow beat of pumpkin A rainbow beat of pumpkin
00:34:35
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And we're back. Yeah, baby. Second half. Shenanigans already underway. Yeah, what were we just talking about, Poker Break? What was that? Well, we were talking about how great that Break song was. The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead. That's right. The Crash Test Dummies cover of it. Haven't seen that live for
00:35:00
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just under a year. We're not going to see him live this year. Anyways, welcome back, everybody. I'm Tony, joined with Always. Clark. Hey, Brandon Winniger. Whoa. Oh, shit. Clark's trying to sneak in and take the sides. What the hell? It's hard. I'll be dead soon.
00:35:20
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I enjoy that Crypt Keeper he poisoned. We're drinking pumpkin beers here. We went through two already. We did Scorch Earth's Crypt Keeper, which we all decided, hey, that's a seven when it comes to the pumpkin beer, as far as our rating scale. Then we did Southern Tears Cold Brew Coffee Pumpkin Ale, where that's a wafer cookie and a glass. Three, four, and four were the ratings on that.
00:35:50
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Well, it seems like a mix. Oh, what was that? Is there a train going through your house right now, Brandon? It's the new beer bell. Beer bell! Time for a new beer!
00:36:05
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and actually it's the one that i chose and i'm pretty happy uh... that uh... you know and i mean how convenient how convenient we're going with another limited beer from the southern tier this one is warlock the imperial pumpkins style style
00:36:22
Speaker
You had a great opportunity to rhyme those three phrases that you missed. What should I have said? It's a pumpkin deer from Southern Tier. This one will get you in the rear. No? Well, you guys try different lyrics and phrases and advertisements on the show. That's a joke. Not that kind of podcast. No, we did. We did it on the last episode for Nombru. Southern Tier, Warlock Beer. Let's have a glass of cheer. Southern Tier.
00:36:57
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I don't think Southern Tier would be on board with that. Clark, you're the producer. Go ahead and send them an email. Maybe in your ear instead of in your ear. Because we're here in the podcast, though. There you go. Southern Tier in your ear. Fuck. Southern Tier in your ear. Warlock Pumpkin is your beer. Southern Tier. Good one. Good one. All right. I'm going to smell this.
00:37:24
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Oh yeah, baby. You know what? I feel like this was the same. Even though I rinsed my glass, I'm pretty sure this is the same glass I had the cold brew coffee pumpkin in. Nope, nope. Switch it around. Here we go. Add to Warlock. Mmm. Can I be a dick? Yeah, go be a dick. I want more pumpkin. Yeah, me too.
00:37:50
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I feel like Crip Keeper fucked this up for us. More pumpkin. I don't know if it's just our pallets are changing as we get wiser. I've had peanuts. I've had water. I have gone in between. I said peanuts. I've had peanuts. I have water in between those last two beers from the beginning till now. I'm not tasting a lot of pumpkin. I want more pumpkin. I mean, I changed my yoga pants. I want more pumpkin. Thank you.
00:38:20
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With that being said, I still think if this was just an Imperial Stout that was available all the time, heck yeah. So here's the thing about this. So this is an Imperial Pumpkin Stout.
00:38:35
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The body and the color on this is not far off from that imperial porter. You're right. Son of a bitch. It's almost. No, it's actually lighter than the fucking... You know what? We're never doing another pumpkin beer episode again. All right, let's tone it down. Sorry. I started off by saying, can I be a dick? I didn't mean to say that. Sorry. And I said I wasn't going to go on another rant. I apologize. So should I read what it says about the beer? Please, please, please.
00:39:00
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headphones off. The unbeatable pumpkin recipe was adapted for the stout beer style in 2011. Dark and mysterious, reignite your senses with warlock's huge roasted malt character, butter and carbonation, and a spiced pumpkin aroma. Interesting. Spiced pumpkin aroma. Let me go back to this.
00:39:26
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the snort this ship the snort that ship
00:39:49
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I need more pumpkin, and I thought I was gonna get it. Do you guys think it is because pallets are wrecked from the first one? I mean, that was a lot of pumpkin, but shit, I don't feel like it was like, oh, now my mouth is- It wasn't overwhelming. No, it wasn't a grip we felt passing over our tongues. New England IPA is for two hours. You dumb sons of bitches. Whoops. A pumpkin New England IPA come up next. Ooh, finally. Nice and fruity.
00:40:20
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jeez i'm kind of at a loss because this is my favorite pumpkin beer of all time yeah so that's why i'm wondering what it is is it us is it the breweries toning it down so it's a bit more i don't know you would think though like run of the mill but with how extreme everything is when it comes to
00:40:44
Speaker
New England IPAs, milkshake IPAs, pastry stouts, all these fucking obnoxious additions and adjuncts that are added to beers, you would think that a pumpkin beer would be right up there. You know, like, hey, this is our time to be like, hey, we were the originators of going obnoxious. We created a pumpkin beer and everyone was like, oh, why would you want to drink that? That sucks. Pumpkin beers belong, I love seeing those posts too.
00:41:13
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Brand number two, brand number two, sorry, brand number two, Brandon. Loves you in those posts. One good place for a pumpkin beer is down the drain. No thanks, assholes. Go ahead, Brandon, sorry. Can I point out that the best by date on this beer is 7 10 2022? Wow, really? Yeah. Well, yes, they want to. Well, yeah. So like my, my, my overall thought is like, what sheet preservatives are in here that
00:41:44
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Yeah, but that's also 14% alcohol. That's almost double the alcohol in here. Yeah, that's crazy. It's such an exact date, too. So I'm wondering, was this bottled July 10th, 2020?
00:42:02
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And maybe there's some age on this already. I don't know. I mean, September, it's not too far. For two and a half months for this to fall off like that would be because even a standard beer, unless it's like a super hoppy beer, like standard beer, your shelf life is roughly six months if it hasn't been like chilled and then warmed up and chilled again. Like sure. You can probably get six months and get like
00:42:27
Speaker
close to what the brewer expected. But like, I've had warlock in the past, too. And I've felt more of a punch in the face of pumpkin. And I am not getting that off this. I'm wondering if they're I wonder if they did pull back. Maybe maybe these breweries, some of them like Clark and I had the dogfish had pumpkin on Sunday. And we both felt it was also kind of just like, huh, don't really remember it being like that.
00:42:57
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It was kind of, yeah, exactly. Makes you recorded maybe and after the final pour. Was it a dogfish head or a pumpkin man? A dogfish head. I see where you're going with that because they're the same company now. It just wasn't that, not a lot of pumpkin. So I don't know what's going on. So I'm going to read another, I found another, what's the word? Review? Review. Is it by Seth H. again?
00:43:27
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I don't have breakfast ball on this one, where did that go? You guys keep talking and I'll let you know. Nope, editors note, we're gonna wait. No, you know what? So just to that point though, like we talked about brewers pulling back on the pumpkin. We also talk about that there's this whole audience of people that just aren't into the pumpkin beers. How likely is it that the brewers are pulling back on the pumpkin to attract a larger audience? Okay, so here we go.
00:43:56
Speaker
That's a good point though. I mean, yeah. I disagree with the point, but I'm not saying disagree with you. I feel like it's, I don't like it. Brandon and I said, but as you said, there's so many pastry stouts that are punchy in the face with every last ingredient. So I don't know. Okay. So untapped review your reactions, gentlemen. Jeff S says this year's offering sports bitter and overly roasted malt. Sorry. I'll pass on the next one. Ooh.
00:44:26
Speaker
It tastes just like a stout to me. It's a good stout. Honestly, it's a solid Imperial Stout. I really like it as a stout itself. Oops, sorry. As far as a pumpkin beer though, geez. I'm not feeling it, man. And you know what else? A shell of what it used to be. You know what I'll do? I will hold on to one of these, give it a week or two, the Warlock. I will crack it open.
00:44:56
Speaker
Throw it on the floor. I pour it on the floor, roll around it, and be like, this is all it was good for. Cleaning the floor. Get a towel. Get a towel. Soak it up. Pour it back to my glass. Drink it. No, I'll crack it open and film my reaction. And if it tastes like pumpkin, I will post a video. If it does not, then I'm just not going to. I'll just drink it as a stop and call it a day. But I mean, I find it hard for our palates to be that fatigued.
00:45:26
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from this small amount of beer. We're not drinking, you know, like you said, we're not drinking New England IPAs. We're not drinking pastry stouts. We're not drinking barrel aged stouts. This is, we should be able to still taste cinnamon, nutmeg, allspice, pumpkin. I'm really bummed that this warlock does not taste like pumpkin. I want all the spice.
00:45:50
Speaker
It's called all spice. Um, if I'm going to rate this, I know I'm going to rate this and this is going to hurt my heart on the old pumpkin beer rating system. I'm giving it a two. I'm giving it two because it's
00:46:14
Speaker
I feel like there was more of an idea of pumpkin in the last beer with the latte. You know what I mean? Like at least there was the latte in mine. This is just, this is a pumpkin stout and man, I just, Southern tier, you broke my heart. All right, now Tony, I've got something for you. Okay. Going back into the old archive machine. Oh boy. Is this something I said? You didn't say anything, unfortunately. I was looking for a comment. But on September,
00:46:44
Speaker
18th of 2014. Holy shit, that's six years ago. September 18th, 2014. You gave it three and a half. Three and a half. Oh nice, three and a half and a two. And now I'm giving it two out of 10. Ooh. Yeah, I gave it a three and a half out of five, which is as close as you can get to. That's a little over half. I mean, that's over half. And now I'm giving it two. So I didn't say anything about it at all. You didn't have any comments. I kind of like how
00:47:14
Speaker
you can pull up untapped stuff like that and make me feel terrible about, you know, what, what, what are you hoping? You are usually pretty good at explaining yourself. Sure. Sure. Sure. There, there's a couple of quick just, you know, check-ins. Um, yeah, so I'm, I'm giving it a two. Unfortunately, I'll tell you this though, it's a solid stout. I think it's a good stout as a regular stout. I would drink the shit out of this. Yeah. No pumpkin. It's a two.
00:47:41
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Two for me, Brandon. I'm going with a one. Whoa, he did it, baby. That's my guy.
00:47:49
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The one and done. I will say, so I haven't checked into a beer and untapped in a while. So I just checked into this one. I gave it 0.5 and untapped. That's the lowest reading I think I've ever given to a beer. And I gave it specifically because there was no, I rated it as a pumpkin beer, not what it, you know, could. So actually here's a good question. Do we know, is there a base beer that Southerner does for this?
00:48:16
Speaker
I don't know. All I know of Southern Tears beers is that they're kind of kooky and over the top. I don't really know of straight up, I take that back, back the truck up because I did buy a mixed pack from Southern Tears. So I do take that back. Southern Tears IPA mixed pack, which was like
00:48:41
Speaker
They have their 2X IPA, which is tasty. And they did a whole IPA, I said this already, mixed pack variety pack. Fuck, what is the name of it? I think it was like 15 cans and it was totally, oh, overpacked. There you go, overpacked, apostrophe D, very good. This year's was very, very good. They're overpacked IPA. So, you know what, I'm not gonna shit all over them.
00:49:08
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So there. So I just looked at their website real quick just to see what their pumpkin line of is. There's standard pumpkin, which now having the cold brew one, I would be interested to try. There's an item pumpkin. Yes, yeah. So that's what I was gonna say the nature. There's a nitro one on there. I'm like, that would be cool to try to imagine a vanilla wafer on nitro. Ooh.
00:49:32
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but it's not nitro coffee it's just oh i thought it was oh i thought it's coffee no it's it's just pumpkin nitro imperial pumpkin ale nice well gentlemen i gotta be honest originally i wasn't going to say let's do one more i have to i i gotta get something else in my mouth that tastes like pumpkin i'm with you brandon do you have something available you can grab
00:49:55
Speaker
I do have something I available and can grab. You get you caught me off guard because that's going to be like just tell Clark not to use the pumpkin flavored condoms. That's just bad. Peanuts in your mouth. That's right. So pumpkin spice. Grab one of the pumpkin ones that I have and see what we can do. See if we can have some redemption.
00:50:21
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No. Hey, folks. Oh, go ahead. No, please. If we had a pumpkin with us, I would have told you that on August, these dates, August 19, 2015, Brandon said, held up well. Four and a half. Oh. Tony, give it a two and a half. What? Good night, great. Fall is sooner than yo think. When was that? The same check-in?
00:50:50
Speaker
No, no, the first one was Brandon. I know, but I was saying it was like the same date? 2014, August. August 15th, you're drinking a pumpkin beer. See, that's what I'm saying. And it says, hell, though, great, too. No, he says, hell, that's great. But you thought fall was sooner than you think. It's like a real asshole on untapped. You know what? When I say everybody to follow me on untapped, don't do it. Oh, don't you want to correct your social media? Yeah, I'm sorry. What was it?
00:51:18
Speaker
Yes, if I recall from the last episode I was on, you were giving out your social media names or tags. Why don't you tell everybody what it was? Well, you said it was like Asa Phelps something. I thought it was Tony Love's Beer 69. Tony Love's Beer 69. That is how you can find me on Untapped and read all of my pumpkin check-ins. In fact, I think from now on, I think from now on, Tony Love's Beer 69 will be only for pumpkin beers. It'll be my pumpkin beer Untapped account.
00:51:48
Speaker
Brandon, you gave this, what was it, Clark? Four and a half. You gave regular pumpkin. Regular pumpkin. Four and a half. How many years ago? Five. Five? And six years ago or five years ago, I said, I gave it a very low score. Two and a half. Good, not great. Fall is sooner than you'll think. Yeah, than you'll think. What a real dick. When was that one? Sorry, was it here again? How many times did I ask that? What was that year? 2014?
00:52:16
Speaker
14, 2014. You know what? That would be, that would, man, no, I was just saying, oh, that's probably the one I started, you know, really getting the craft beer. No, that wasn't, I was, I was in the craft beer for a while. That was in the heyday, man. Yeah, man. That's when you were, Brandon, that's when you were getting me into, uh, those 12 ounce bottles of Bremer County convincing Laura, when you saw our fishermen say, buy Tony this, he'll like it. And she was like, okay.
00:52:44
Speaker
what you did. All right, let's get into one more pumpkin beer. This is the beer redemption. This is the redemption beer. And we are going with two different separate beers. You need the water. You're looking for water. It looked like you were looking for water. You're looking for water? You got water? Are you okay? I bring my own water. Thank you. Are you parched? Are you parched? Very parched. You parched from all the pumpkin? Parched from the pumpkin. Parched from the pumpkin. Oh, I thought you were going to jump into it.
00:53:13
Speaker
Yeah. How's that? Because it's the pumpkin wrap. OK, Braden, what did what did you grab? I grabbed New Holland's Ichabod. Oh, also a fantastic, fantastic beer. And before you know, did you already pour yours? Nope. All right. Well,
00:53:39
Speaker
What is interesting, I now have almost a full glass full of all of the three previous beers. Oh, a couvet of pumpkin. We've got Griffin Claw Brewing Company's screaming hyphen pumpkin ale, an ale brewed with pumpkin and spices. And this is 5% alcohol and it was canned on August 6th, 1920.
00:54:08
Speaker
So this mirror is about 100 years old. And it was canned by a bunch of people at Hogwarts. Clark, can I have your glass, please? I'm feeling pretty good. Brandon, I got to say this. I'm already excited for your pour there because I'm excited to read some of your reviews. Ooh, boy. Clark, I think you might have to become the untapped producer. Kind of fun to do. Kind of keep us in the check.
00:54:39
Speaker
You're fired. Anyways, look at the bottom of the can. That was fast! So just kind of going back, the Ichabata is 4.5% alcohol. This one was canned on 7-24-2020. Why is it so early? Dude, these started coming out in August.
00:55:02
Speaker
That's true. That's why we decided to do this episode as early as we did. We would have done it in August originally, I think. Shout out to New Holland. I mean, New Holland, I do enjoy a lot of New Holland beers. So I'm looking forward to milk. Yeah. Brandon and Jerry, take a sip. I have not. So I'm going to read something real quick from New Holland.
00:55:25
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Ichabod was one of the first beers we ever brewed, said Brett Vanderkamp, founder of New Holland Brewing Company. It's been an absolute favorite for us at the brewery and our fans in Michigan and beyond ever since. And it looks like it's a 4.5% ABV pumpkin ale made with real pumpkin, cinnamon, and nutmeg spices, baby.
00:55:46
Speaker
It ends in baby, actually. They do have that in there. You just accentuated it? Baby. No, there's a whole bunch of whys at the end. Well, Brandon, I know you've had Ichabod before. Dig in and let us know what you think before Clark reveals your true thoughts. I don't know if I've ever reviewed this. I probably did.
00:56:18
Speaker
As we're reviewing those beers, I'm going in and changing my eyes. You're about to say it weird. I'm seeing it change on the screen. It's like Ferris Bueller's Day. Wait, don't don't say I'm going to I'm going to talk first, Clark. No, actually, so I do like I know I've had this before. I'm pretty sure I checked it. I know I've had this at Fishman's, especially I think we did a New Holland event during
00:56:45
Speaker
The fall, we did like Ichabod, and I think we had Dragon's Milk and other stuff on tap. This is a solid beer for me, man. Comparing this to Warlock, it's definitely a lighter beer. But man, there is more pumpkin in this than there was in that Warlock. And it's more like pumpkin, not pumpkin spice.
00:57:08
Speaker
is what I'm getting. The pumpkin spice is there, but I feel like it's more subtle than anything else. As far as pumpkin beers go, I think this is probably gonna be my favorite of the day. Ooh. Closer to what you want in a pumpkin beer. Correct. Now I would say I would like a little more pumpkin. Like pumpkin or pumpkin spice? No, pumpkin. And the difference is like,
00:57:36
Speaker
This one is just so much more easy drinking than the other ones, you know at the four and a half percent It's you know, roughly Like the other ones are just heavy and they sit they sit a little heavier Like I feel like this one I could have at least two or three like sitting by a fire or something and enjoy it Even if it's in its current state, but I would say it would probably benefit from a little more pumpkin. I remember going to a Halloween party at vetoes and whether it was
00:58:03
Speaker
Mike who bought a case or I had bought a whole bunch. I want to say Mike bought a case. Mike, you have to help me remember that I remember this. But there was a whole bunch of Ichabod at that party. And that's all I drank at the Halloween party. And man, this is making me sad. There probably won't be any Halloween parties this year because it's so tasty having these pumpkin beers. And I say that
00:58:28
Speaker
because I'm drinking this beer, but before I get to that, Clark, what did we say about Ichabod? Ichabod. Brandon, last year, October 29th, gave it a four. That's not when we were recorded, was it? Oh shit, it was. Ichabod last year. Welcome back, Ichabod. We did.
00:58:53
Speaker
Interesting. I'm like, that's where I had it. It was the one pumpkin beer we had left. Let's bring it back to 2014, September 22nd. Jesus, why was I being an asshole? Tony is drinking an Ichabod by New Holland Brewing. Meh. Ooh. Really? In 2014? Now, let's go see mine. I finally found one of mine. October 2014 as well. Three stars. Fine.
00:59:24
Speaker
They're like real snobs back then. Seriously. Yeah, nothing's changed. Whoops. Ichabod. It's okay. Fine. Fine. Four stars! Gatecrasher. 100 stars! Definitely. That's funny. That's funny how taste changed. Apparently, in 2014, I was not peeling pumpkin beers. I was definitely, sorry, my mouth is full of peanuts.
00:59:59
Speaker
There we go. Peanuts out. Actually, out and down. It's funny to see how palette has changed when it comes to these types of beers. I'm sure 2014 was all IPAs, baby. All IPAs and anything barrel age. Not much has changed, but at least I can appreciate other styles. I'd offer an argument that it was much our palates, our assortment of beers were
01:00:25
Speaker
larger back then, at least for me. It's just I'm writing a paper. Oh, okay. Great. I can't wait to read that paper. You guys are writing a paper together? Yes. Oh, it's scholarly. And it's about you. So is it a positive paper? Positive for us.
01:00:49
Speaker
Anyways, we got, oh my God. Well, while we spent 20 minutes on Ichabod, let's talk about the Griffin Claw Screamin' Pumpkin Ale. Straight from the mire in Stevensville, Michigan. Oh, hey, finally. One that's from Michigan. I don't know why I say finally because New Holland is in Michigan. Well, the brewery's not Michigan, I call it. Yeah.
01:01:15
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fucking tony come on man sorry i thought i thought that that's where it was the brewery was sorry i wasn't really big i did read earlier where it was griffin claw is in it's in michigan it's in birmingham okay so it's a mission okay so i was i was right god you know just stick to looking at untapped and let the host host the show sorry thank you yeah so this pumpkin uh screaming pumpkin ale
01:01:41
Speaker
is a, read it again, an ale brewed with pumpkin and spices, and it is 5% alcohol, 25 IBUs, and again, August 6, 2020, not 1920, as well as can. First impressions, it's not overwhelming as far as aroma goes, but
01:02:02
Speaker
this is more of a well-balanced pumpkin beer not pumpkin spice beer but a pumpkin beer with some pumpkin spice and you actually taste that in it and i have to say
01:02:16
Speaker
This is pretty tasty. So the aroma definitely is more of what I'm looking for. I don't want to say mouthfeel because it's sort of just an amber. Sure. Round of the mill. But you do get that spice in there. You do get actual pumpkin taste a little bit. But I will say there's this weird
01:02:38
Speaker
something or other at the back end that it's like tinny or something. Like a watery, dirty, watery, talent thing. Yeah. I know what you're saying, and I think that comes from... And that's at the end. The first three quarters of my drinking this beer, I like it. And then that last quarter's go, ooh. It's like right in the middle of your tongue, right? Something's not right. The middle of the back of your tongue. I feel like that has to do with the spices and the actual pumpkin.
01:03:04
Speaker
You know, it's an amber. I feel like I get that from amber. Reading it, it does say roasted pumpkin, so that could be part of the roasting that's coming through at the end there. What was my check-in on this one when I first heard it? No check-ins for any of us. How about any other untapped check-ins? Brandon, I think you would enjoy this one.
01:03:24
Speaker
probably much like Ichabod. It's a solid beer. You know, if I saw this on the shelf again, I wouldn't get it. I would not steer away from it. Nuded. Wait, Brandon, so we're keeping scores here. I want to put Ichabod. What'd you give Ichabod? Let me go back in again. Yeah, as I put more peanuts in my mouth.
01:03:54
Speaker
I think I'd give this one a seven. Huh, interesting. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Just for what it's supposed to be, a seven seems pretty solid. Yeah, fair. Yeah, I would like to have it again. Maybe I'll look for it when I go up to...
01:04:15
Speaker
Well, I see, and that's kind of the thing too, is when I first had pumpkin beers, I wasn't like a huge fan of pumpkin beers. It was different and I was just like, yeah, it was good, but I was just like, eh. Although the one thing I was gonna mention, which drives, when I crack up every time when I look at like untapped, they're classified as the pumpkin slash yam beer. I'm gonna do a sweet potato beer next year. You know, something Brandon just said, kind of put a dingle in my ear.
01:04:47
Speaker
A dingle in my berry. You know what I'm saying? A light bulb went off. He said, I wasn't looking for something. I think part of the problem is us three gentlemen very scholarly in the beer industry. We're very learned, Ben. Exactly. Maybe we're looking for too much in all these pumpkin beers. And that's why we're not enjoying them. Back in the day, we're just going, taking a sip and going, that's nice. Or fine. Fine. I don't know. That might be hard.
01:05:16
Speaker
So you're saying that- I can agree with that. We're deconstructing this a bit too much. Maybe that's what, it's just a hypothesis. I mean, with this being our second attempt at trying to do a pumpkin bear episode, and now you're saying that maybe we're doing it wrong, I guess that only means one thing. No, I think it means, what he's saying, it sounded like he was saying is, maybe also we, back then, were not looking for certain things, you know?
01:05:47
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you're having a beer and you're just like, man, whatever, it's a beer. Like we weren't, oh, it's a pumpkin beer. You weren't necessarily focusing on how much pumpkin flavor you were getting because you didn't know that's what you wanted in the beer. And for me, I can think that's more true than it was back then because if I have a pumpkin beer, like I'm specifically looking for the pumpkin flavor now. Back then, I didn't really give a shit.
01:06:13
Speaker
You know, I looked at like, what's the ABV and like, what style is it? Like, you know, I would, I would choose like a style. I would choose warlock over like an Ichabod back then because, you know, I liked stouts and that was my preferred thing. And I was like, ah, it's got pumpkin in there. Yeah. I'll try it. Okay. It's good. There's a little bit of pumpkin. There's a little bit of spice. Sure. Cool. Exactly. True.
01:06:35
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You know, and like, I don't know if I'm as, you know, as fangirl about it as Tony, but I do like I like pumpkin spice stuff. It's not like I don't hate it. Like, you know, the reason I don't get it, like I don't go to Starbucks and get that crap because I'm watching my waistline. I save my calories for beer. So, you know, in relation to that, like I enjoy the pumpkin spice flavor, but I also enjoy like the actual taste of pumpkin. So, yes, sir.
01:07:05
Speaker
So more now than I did, then I can actually say. Yeah, no, I think I think you're right. But what I was was trying to drive that was and I agree with everything that you said. I am a total fan girl, by the way, of all the pumpkin spice stuff. In fact, I've got well, Clark is here in my basement. I do have a like pumpkin spice thing. That's not pumpkin spice. It's like a fall apple cider thing. Candle burning down here. What I was trying to get to was that
01:07:35
Speaker
Oh, Clark, so you're saying that our second time trying to do pumpkin beers, it didn't really work out. Maybe it's what we wanted. So maybe we need to do it again next year.
01:07:50
Speaker
three times as a charm, as they say, or third time. I'm just trying to leave that until I guess I have to make this a thing, guys. Well, I'll make this promise. If we do this again for the third year in a row, I will brew Mr. Rumpkin's Pumpkin Ale. And I will brew Pumpkin Slayer.
01:08:10
Speaker
And I will drink your beer. Perfect, that's good enough for me, baby. Real quick, not real quick, but Clark, what did you give the screaming pumpkin ale from Griffin Claw? I give it, after that new enlightenment, a seven. Nice. I would have given it a six before Brandon said something about I was looking for. I'm gonna say this.
01:08:37
Speaker
Oh, I gave that my score. Your score is a seven. I will say this. I am gonna give this one a six. And why I'm giving it a six is that I think it's very good, but my favorite was Cryptkeeper for the evening. And if going back, I would have given Cryptkeeper an eight and given this beer a seven.
01:09:04
Speaker
Fair enough. That makes any sense. So the highest rating beers was the first beer and our last beers, guys. And unfortunately, in the middle, maybe we should have gotten the actual pumpkin.
01:09:18
Speaker
We went for the variants, hoping for the best. And we ended up with, unfortunately, according to our ratings. Yeah, we can make a whole Southern tier pumpkin episode with all that. What was it? Yeah. What I was going to say too is like we can, the rating could actually be a sliding scale. So we can rate things from one to 10, but you have the ability to knock things off. So like if your rating was like,
01:09:48
Speaker
you know, a seven for one beer and you want another one to be seven because you had that beer. Now you're like, okay, this one's actually a seven. The other one's in six. You can knock it down. You can go back, change the rating. Just a thought. No, I like it. I like it, man. I like this a lot. This was, uh, I will say this though. Last year we did have some good beers. Obviously I can buy was had, and we also had Ilman salted Brown Carmel, which I remember enjoying as well. Yes.
01:10:16
Speaker
And I'm sure there was some other sweet beer that we had. I feel like there was some Yeti thing that I brought. Was the Yeti? Yeah. You remember that? I do. It was not good at all. Yeah, we do. After the final pour. Oh, that's right. That landed in an after the final. I wish we were doing the seasons back then, because then we can go back and just figure out what beer was it now.
01:10:43
Speaker
You know, geez. All right, I'm going back. I'm going back. Sorry, I had to clean my throat. I apologize. Oh, look, there's the beer episode we did. Oh, here we go. Oh man. All right. So it looks like, oh yeah. Pumpkin Smasher. We did that. Blue Moon Harvest Pumpkin. Hailman. Oh boy. We did more pumpkin than we thought. Yeah.
01:11:07
Speaker
When you said at the beginning of the show that we didn't get any pumpkin beers, that was a lie. Well, we were digging deep on that. Let's see. We also tried the Almond Joy Beer. I remember too. There's a rogue beer we tried. What's the rogue beer that we tried? Pumpkin Smasher was from your? Rogue was some type of barrel age thing that you brought.
01:11:36
Speaker
I thought I brought the pumpkins. Or no, was that... Pumpkin Smasher. Pumpkin Smasher was Brandon's. Blue Moon. Yes, Pumpkin Smasher wasn't mine. Yeah, but there was a rogue, like, weird, not good, puke-inducing... Do you have any pictures from that evening? The only problem is that that's the one bottle that doesn't show up in the picture. And I got a new phone shortly after this. Well, anyways, before...
01:12:05
Speaker
Hold on to that thought. We're going to wrap up the show. Brandon. Toni. I love you, man. It's a lot of fun. We were able to do an official pumpkin episode. Sorry, everybody. I still have peanuts in my mouth. I can't stop. Won't stop. Can't tell what to do. I love snacking. This is a lot of fun. Clark, thank you for joining us again. Thank you for having me, gentlemen. Wow, gentlemen. Thanks for coming in. Ooh. Yeah, this is good. We're scholarly.
01:12:34
Speaker
We are. And I think from now on, when you come on, you're going to come on as the guy who kind of looks apart. You can participate still, but the untapped part was fun. That was fun. Not every show. Not every show now. It's not real crazy. It's nice having a note taker. Yeah, no, we need someone to do that. Just do it. Do it. I'll do it. Christ. And I'm sure you'll be back before the year's over. Probably, maybe. I don't know.
01:13:01
Speaker
We'll see i guess okay big downer everybody thanks for listening and thanks for listening for the every other weeks after the final four it's been a fun season so far we. Burn through two revolution beers and was the last year that we did the french beer the first hour with the first regents i guess what next week's beer is it's another revolution beer baby.
01:13:29
Speaker
No, there's not. So Rev, what's
Audience Appreciation and Social Media Plugs
01:13:31
Speaker
up? We love you guys. You're basically the feature of After the Final Four. Let's talk. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. Brandon, where can people find you on the social medias? It can be found on the Instagrams. All of them. Instagram, it's BMW 81. Twitter, it's BMW 81.
01:13:58
Speaker
Clark, where can people, do you want people to find you anywhere at all? They can find me if they'd like. I'm at Clarkowski. Ooh, he's doing it, baby. Clarkowski. Clark, Clark. Oh, WSKI. And I'm ASFL. Chicago?
01:14:16
Speaker
I still don't know my own fucking, not this show. Tony loves beer, 69. Tony loves beer, 69, untapped, and just look up, you know, just go to the malting hour. Go to the malting hour and you'll find me out there. It tastes of help, something. Thanks, everybody. See you next time.