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Approaching me 4 Years Later?! A Conversation with Ollie de Vega!
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In our final episode before Christmas, Satsunami is joined by his long time friend and VA extraordinaire Ollie de Vega aka BlowfishmanTV! In 2020, we were lucky to have him on as the first guest for our Streamer Spotlight series. But what has changed 4 years on? Will the duo ever stop making JoJo's Bizarre Adventure references?! And what is new for Ollie in the world of voice acting? Without any further ado, let's find out!
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Transcript
Introduction and Setup
00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:17
Speaker
Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of Chatsunami. My name's Chatsunami and joining me today, a couple of days before Christmas, four years on, I cannot believe I'm saying that this year has gone way too fast.
Guest Introduction: Ollie de Vega
00:00:31
Speaker
It is none other than the one and only absolutely fantastic voice actor, streamer extraordinaire, Ollie de Vega, AKA Blowfish Man TV. Blowfish, welcome back.
00:00:43
Speaker
Thank you. Thank you. I remember the longest time you and I were like, yeah, we need to do a podcast episode. And you know, we put it off for God knows how long, like what, three years now at this point. And then I'm finally glad to finally be able to do this with you. You
Reminiscing Past Episodes
00:00:54
Speaker
know, this is great. Do you want to guess what year was our last episode together? Are we going to count like the Jojo stuff or no? Oh yeah. No, the Jojo stuff. Yeah. I'm going to say 2020 or 2021 latest. Am I right? Yep. You're right. Oh, she's twenty one okay.
00:01:10
Speaker
Yep, it was September 4th 2021 but you actually did and you were probably the second and ironically enough the last person to record a Chatsu Shorts episode where you talked about your voice acting journey and that was November 12th 2021.
00:01:29
Speaker
Crazy. I do remember recording that for you. That was fun. And like, I need to listen back to that just to see how much better I've gotten when it comes to just speaking and voice acting in general. Cause I'm curious about myself. I was like, how much have I improved?
00:01:42
Speaker
and oh honestly see listening back to the old episodes. I was actually saying that to one of my friends the other day. He listened back to it and you're like, oh my God, I sound so stiff and robotic. And then you listen to your newer stuff and you kind of think, you know what? We're getting better. but No, it's for real. It's just so funny that you mentioned that, Satsu, because when I was streaming on Monday, an OG fan of mine came through who's also one of my
Show Progress and Quality
00:02:05
Speaker
IRL friends, funny enough. And she's gotten like super busy with life. I used to play D and&D with her then, you know, sadly she couldn't play anymore because she's going to school out of town from Toronto, sadly. miss her but she came through and I'm like oh my god how are you doing right and like she's like whoa you know this place has changed a lot yeah I was here like two years ago and seems a lot more put together and produced a lot better and the quality is good I was like well thanks right cuz I think last time she was with me I didn't really have much of like an overlay going on it was just kind of me and my camera and no green screen either which is hilarious
00:02:33
Speaker
I get what you mean, it's like, yeah, we're getting better. It is honestly amazing to see the progress because I'm a very good trained Martin McAllister who many of the listeners at home, you'll know who I'm talking about. Big shout out to Martin because he'll probably be listening to this as he's packing his presents, weightlifting them, etc. He's a wrestler, by the way. He doesn't just lift presents out of nowhere. That's awesome. Yeah.
Deleting Old Episodes: To Keep or Not?
00:02:54
Speaker
ah So, I was talking to him about the older episodes, about how I kind of struggle with listening to Season 1. Not because they're bad episodes by any means, but purely because my editing was a lot different at that time. And he turned around to me, I remember, and he said, well, why don't you just delete those old episodes? And I'm like, well, I don't really want to because it just shows the progress that the show's gone through. I mean, if you look at things like, and this is something we'll probably touch on later, but you know like with Dungeons and Dragons and Critical Role and things, I remember listening to some of their earlier stuff during Covid. Right. Honestly it's not the best quality compared to obviously what it is now, it's like this big huge budget and while Chatsunami maybe doesn't have the same budget as that.
Podcast Beginnings
00:03:42
Speaker
We're still getting there, we've upgraded our mics, we've upgraded our techs so you know what is getting there and honestly I cannot believe it has been four years roughly on the day that our episode actually came out together where at the time I decided You know, I'm going to create a podcast around October time. I streamed the first episode towards the end of October, and then while I was kind of finding my feet, I thought, right, OK, I'm going to get some of my streamer friends that I met during Covid. You, of course, being a developer.
00:04:15
Speaker
ah And yeah, I was like, I really would love to interview you guys to see what you thought about streaming during the 2020s and things, because that's actually in the description. I've got it pulled up here every day. The description is, in this episode, Satsanami interviews his friend and fellow streamer Blowfish Man TV. From streaming experiences to anime, the duo discusses how it feels to start streaming on Twitch in the year 2020.
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Influence
00:04:44
Speaker
feels like a lifetime ago though, it doesn't it? That's what I'm saying. I was like, that felt, it does feel like a lifetime ago, but at the same time, I also felt like it kind of felt like yesterday, you know? Oh yeah. I know because what I was also laughing at and that's something you alluded to before we started recording was that you and I, of course, are big fans of a lot of things from anime, streaming, and especially one JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Is that right? Yeah.
00:05:12
Speaker
but Man, we used to quote that shit so much. We still kind of do. You thought this was an interview, but it's me, Satsu. Oh, you're going to interview me?
00:05:24
Speaker
So, for anyone who, if you were around listening to the podcast during Season 1, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about, but we used to do a show or rather a sub-series. Ironically enough, I actually think this is technically the first unofficial sub-series of Chatsunami, if you think about it. True, true. We are, Blowfish and I, we decided to review all of the parts of the Jojo anime. Now the reason I'm laughing is because at the time, I think parts one to five were out and part six had been announced that it was going to come out and everything. We were so excited because we did part one all the way through to five. We also did a general retrospective of it. We did that live actually, I think on your stream in mind. That was terrible. I do believe. Yeah. I remember. Oh yeah, guys. I got to hop off because I'm actually going to be in a podcast over here. And I literally hopped off 30 minutes before my stream, just so I could get you help you out with setup and whatnot. Oh, that was great. And I was like, it's too bad. I can't read you right after that would be quite the introduction. You know, cause you also turned off all your alerts during podcast time. I do remember that. I was like, Oh, it would have been quite the introduction. Be like, and our guests. Oh, there he is. You know? Yeah.
00:06:38
Speaker
Well, see you say that, but I'm hopefully planning on getting back into live streaming and Twitch with the podcast.
Future Streaming Plans
00:06:45
Speaker
Nice, nice. Don't know when, but hopefully soon after the Christmas period's over, after I've got a turkey hangover, you know. Oh, turkey hangover. The best kind of hey the best kind of hangover, seriously speaking. True, true. But of course, as I was saying, the last episode that we did together was released in September 4th, 2021, which not only is absolutely crazy and you no pun intended, absolutely bizarre. I actually remember saying to you constantly, oh, I can't wait. We should do part six. We should do part six, which we should technically finish off at some point. but We should. Seriously. But I remember saying that to you, oh, we should do it. And then Netflix pulled quite possibly one of the most controversial decisions, didn't they? Which one are we talking about? I was like, there's quite a few from what I know. The one where they said, you know what? We're not going to advertise part six coming out. We're just going to slip under the radar. Then we're going to
00:07:44
Speaker
Yeah, then we're going to release it at Christmas and then in the summer and then they just ghost drop the final part and then they complained about it not getting the views and it was just a mess. That was just horrible marketing at that point. Like, guys, Jojo is a pretty big series. Like, I don't think you should just shadow drop that kind of thing, you know? Like, come on here. Come on now. Shadow dropping only works for like so many things. I don't think it would have worked for Jojo. Something as big as that. Hell no. Because the thing is, Jojo is massive, but I feel as if it's only massive too. I wouldn't say hardcore anime fans, but I'd say people who are quite and invested in anime. If I was introducing someone to anime, Jojo's is not something I would introduce
00:08:25
Speaker
um no Here's the thing about Jojo, right? Even if you're an anime fan and even if an anime fan doesn't like Jojo because they don't like it in general, you're not going to you know please everybody with the content you put out. They don't like the art style. I've heard many reasons why people can get into Jojo and I'm like, they're all pretty valid reasons. You know what I mean? I mean, even if those people who don't like Jojo, but love anime in general, they know about it through the memes. Whenever I would drop like a, oh, you're approaching me kind of reference, the anime fans laugh because they're like, oh, we don't watch Jojo. It's just that that meme is everywhere. Or just that it was me, Dio. And everybody else joins in and laughs. You know what I mean? Jojo has that effect in a sense of like, hey, we might not please everybody, but hey, everybody knows us. So, you know,
00:09:05
Speaker
Yeah, because I had a friend who kept hounding me about it, and they kept saying, go on, watch Jojo, watch Jojo. I thought, OK, I'll watch it. I'll watch it. And long-term listeners and yourself included, you'll know that I am absolutely terrible. See, when it comes to catching up on things that people have recommended to me. Oh, same. Trust me me. The backlog of my life is very, very real. It's scary, and it's in the corner. But if I don't look at it, it can't overwhelm me. Hey, valid, valid. I should probably take a page out of your book.
00:09:36
Speaker
But, yeah, I remember he kept saying, oh, watch it. It's a great anime. I was like, yeah, sure. And then it wasn't until, of course, the 2020 lockdowns when, of course, you and I met online and he was like, are you going to finally watch it? And I was like, I don't know, maybe. And then eventually I watched it on Netflix. And, yeah, the rest of the history. I absolutely loved it. I fell in love with it. A lot of my streams at the time were very Jojo-ed. Oh, God, yeah.
00:10:05
Speaker
It was crazy, because I think the first ever stream that I did in Twitch was, it was like a Pokémon Nuzlocke run. You are a madman for doing Nuzlocke's, I couldn't. Like seriously speaking, I really couldn't. See, I feel like it's a Stockholm Syndrome kind of thing, bitcoin god because Jane, you're my biggest. It's like, now that I've done so many of them, I cannot play Pokémon the same. Oh no!
00:10:30
Speaker
ah I've brought this up to people before, but it's like, you know, you'll have a gym battle when one of your Pokémon fades, and I have this lurching raid in my stomach like, oh my god, I've lost my starter, or oh my god, I've lost this and that. And then I realise, you know, Satsu, you're not playing that long, you're just playing casually. And it's like, I can't turn it off because I'm so used to playing like that, that whenever I play it normally, I feel like I'm cheating. And then fair. you know it valid It's like if you're used to one way of life for so long and you're like, wait, why is this so much easier? Why do I feel like I'm not doing this right? You know, I got that. Okay. I understand what you mean by Stockholm syndrome. It's caught me in the grass, but that's also like gaslighting you low key. You know, yeah I'm not saying that's why Pokemon haven't sponsored me yet, but that's why Pokemon haven't sponsored me yet.
00:11:20
Speaker
I think they should. Hey, Pokemon, you you really need to sponsor this guy. I mean, you know, like, I'm sure that everybody, you know, has their gripes with Scarlett and Violet. I might not be a Pokemon fan, but I've seen some of the stuff y'all go through with Scarlett and Violet. I'm like, hold on. So you're saying that the Switch can't handle this game at some points? that's wild ah switch honestly is just such a bizarre con so ah is it's weird man every time me and otau my stream team get together and play switch games sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't because you know all the server issues they can really crap out we're like oh come on what the hell you know i
00:11:53
Speaker
absolutely bizarre because I'll confess here, I have not actually played Scarlet and Violet yet. It's the only one I didn't really pick up and play and the reason of course being the very infamous glitches and things like that. Attack on Titan characters.
00:12:10
Speaker
ah Wait, Attack on Titan characters? What do you mean? Have you not seen that? Where it's like at the very beginning when the game was just released before the day one patch and everything. It's like people would go on their bikes and the model would just stretch out. So they'd be massive. Oh, that is so funny. I just picked your sister. That's genuinely what it felt like. Oh my god. Like a wall match up just falling right in the background. You're like, oh my god. oh We need to cut it at the nape.
00:12:41
Speaker
Go, Scyther, you know. I mean, right? He would be the perfect Pokemon in that world. Oh my god. Just to cut stuff up. He would be the Levi of Pokemon. Oh, he would be. Fanfiction writers out there. Yes. Do it. Do it. You know, have a fight between, you know, a dream fight between Levi and Scyther. You know, that should be a death battle. Oh, yeah. Hey, death battle. You hearing this? Get it, getting. Pokemon, if you don't want to sponsor us, death battle, we're here for you. Hey, if you need voice actors, I could do a pretty good Levi. Just saying, death battle.
Ollie's Voice Acting Journey
00:13:11
Speaker
That is true. And that actually brings me on to a very good point there. Thank you for that segue. That but oh that was an intentional bit. Go on. You, of course, started streaming in 2020. That's how we, of course, met and fell in the same circle. That and the rough of Jojo. Hell yeah.
00:13:28
Speaker
But of course, one thing that you always told me, and you always told your audience as well, was that you were aspiring to be a voice actor. So before we go into the absolute heights of, let's say stardom that you've had now. I don't know about stardom, but thank you. I'm very humbled by that. I was like, I mean, kind of. There's momentum there, I will say.
00:13:49
Speaker
Oh, no, absolutely. Before we get into that, just for a bit of context for the listeners at home, what was it that inspired you to actually go into the world of voice acting? Oh, dude, I remember one of the biggest things for me was if we're going to be super non-serious about when I started, it was roughly grade eight, grade nine, actually. The biggest reason was because I was the lone anime kid in my class. You know, I always looked at funny and looked at weird for liking that kind of stuff. You know, anime wasn't really big. like in the 2009s, and you're considered a nerd and a loser for it. But anyway, that's besides the point. And you know, I was a huge fan of Naruto. I still love Naruto to this day. I was a manga kid way back when. Nowadays it's like, well, I'd rather wait for the anime just to see, you know, what it looks like animated. Cause sometimes with mangas, as nice as it is to stay ahead, it's tough to sort of write and draw the parts that really require a lot more animation for like fights, for example, right? Basically I was staying ahead of the Naruto manga and what I would actually do to, well, I never knew it was practice. I just got super into it. where at one point I started reading the manga out loud and like try to put emotion into it. It probably wasn't very good, let's be honest here, you know? It got to a point where, you know, my family was looking at me like I was crazy because I was yelling like shadow clone jutsu at the top of my lungs to really like practice, you know, that delivery, right? Really immerse myself in that world is probably what I was trying to go And then eventually I kind of stopped with that when I graduated high school. And then in university, I low key started to get back into it due to the fact that a lot of my friends at the time thought it was hilarious. Like my Arnold Schwarzenegger impersonation was very good. And they would make me say a lot of dumb things with the Arnold voice. Right. And then that led me back to going back to that whole thing where I would look at my favorite media, whether they're video games or they're anime cartoons even. And I would just low key try to recreate those scenes. just by myself, just, you know, voicing them in either through imitating each delivery or what I would think was like, hey, maybe it should be said this way. Let's see how we feel. And then afterwards, after I graduated from university, sid little known fact, by the way, I don't think I've ever told you this Satsu. So funny thing about the b Blowfish Man TV, just content creation channel in general, it actually started out as a YouTube channel and it actually started off as a lot of voice acting impersonation videos. oh So I would say like hey, you know a voice actor impersonates characters from X video game X anime You know those classic videos right those classic voice acting videos where they'd have the PNG of the character They're imitating and they'd say a line the next clip next character that kind of that's what I was going for right at one point I did the first 150 Pokemon. It was great. I deleted all those old videos just cuz I'm like man These just seem so robotic and stiff and you know, there wasn't really any soul to them You know what? I mean, there wasn't really my own spin on it It was just I was doing impersonations and I consider that voice acting at the time. Little did I know that's kind of somewhat frowned upon in the industry. It also just depends on who you run into. I'm sure the Team Four Star guys, those are the biggest examples of Team Four Star guys. They were having fun with it, obviously, with Dragon Ball abridged and whatever, insert anime name here abridged. They were having fun with it. Toei Animation does not like those guys at all.
00:16:42
Speaker
because, you know, they're like, hey, they're profiting off of our own animation. dada They can't do that. And what have you. It's really just tow animation that doesn't like them. But most of the voice actors, I want to say, they're like, hey, I think they're pretty funny. This is great. My friend who actually taught me what I should really say my best friend who actually taught me all I know about voice acting. He actually showed me a deleted scene for Dragon Ball Kai. And it was basically the gang was watching Hercule's movie of how he defeated Cell. Oh, yeah. No, the scene. Yeah. And they got all the team four star guys to voice everybody in that scene. But Toei decided, no, we're not going to include them in DBZ Kai and scrapped it. I'm like, oh. that sucks right And you know, Christopher Sabat was like directing that whole scene and he was really good about it and really nice about it. He's like, Oh, I think these guys are hilarious. The voice of Vegeta is like really cool about it, right? But then when he had to break the news saying like, Hey, Toei is not cool with it. If it were up to me, it would be in DBZ Kai, but you know, there's only so much I could do. I'm sorry guys. Right. After hearing that, I'm like, okay, I got to kind of be careful with this. Right. So then I actually stopped after in 2017 and I just decided, Hey, voice acting is hard. Loki, I was like a bit discouraged by my family to do it because you know, it's not an easy kind of career. But, you know, it was hard. So I lived a normal life for about two, three years. I had a job I was freaking miserable at. Eventually COVID rolled around. 2020 happened and, you know, everybody was stuck in their homes. And, you know, I ended up losing that same job just because, you know, COVID. I thought to myself, I'm like, hey, listen, maybe we need to bring back the Blowfish Man TV channel. Give this one more honest and great try. And you know, if it's not working out the way we want it to within a month, two months, then we're going to stop in general and just go back, go back to like a normal life. This is going to sound a little messed up, Satsu, but to me, that was the second chance I've been low key wanting to get, to
Career Challenges and Diversification
00:18:24
Speaker
try again. You know, I decided to do it. I invested in better equipment, as you can see, maybe not as good as the ones I have now, but I decided, hey, originally I was streaming for the music group I was in called T-Child Records, just so you know, promote our music and promote us in general as a music group. And then eventually it wasn't. four months down the line, maybe I did start to get an audience. It was mainly a lot of my IRL friends coming through saying, what's up? But I also started to get more and more newcomers coming through. And this especially happened when, you know, I was playing Eyes of Heaven, the Jojo game, right? So and that was also a time when I was super into Jojo. And that's how we ended up meeting. Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe I met you through Naff Gaines' raid. But at the time he was known as Naff O, I believe. Yeah, I think you're right. I believe, yeah, he was known as nath own and then ended up being NAF gains by the end of it. He retired. He was a really funny streamer because what I would do on stream is just play a lot of ridiculous dating sim games and just they didn't have a lot of voice audio. So I decided to come up with voices for these characters and people loved it. That was me giving myself the second chance and be like, okay, maybe we can do this. this, right? And then eventually, I think a year into streaming, I decided to start pursuing it more seriously just due to personal issues that weren't really working out the way I wanted it to, because I think part of it was due to the fact that the person I was dating at the time, they couldn't keep up with me anymore. So they decided to, you know, just And our relationship, honestly speaking, it did suck. It was like a almost three year relationship, but it is what it is at the end of the day, right? It didn't affect me too bad. As bad as that might sound, but that's a whole different story for another day. Afterwards, that was the point where I'm like, okay, we're doing great on streaming. So we kind of have a marketing tool in our sleeve. Maybe we can for real try this out now, really try to go for it. Not just streaming as great as that is. We need to do more. And the very first person I went to was my DM slash my best friend slash the guy who taught me everything about voice acting. So I went to him and was like, Hey, let's talk shop. Let's be real here. And he's like, what do you mean? I was like, I want to try and to get into voice acting and I need your help. And so he's just like, okay, first things first, before we really get into shop, I need you to invest in a homemade studio. And what that consists of. And he told me the bare minimum of what we needed to sound pretty decent on the microphone. Right. And I did that within a month and he was just so shocked. He's just like, wait, you actually went out and got all of that stuff within a month. And I'm like, yeah, dude, why? I would show him progress pictures of, hey, the studio is coming along really nicely with all the soundproof foam and what have you. Right. And he was really impressed. He's like, OK. A few months ago, he's like, that's how I knew you were serious because so many people come up to me asking, hey, how do I get into voice acting? But they never put in the work or invest even a little bit of money in order to, you know, get a proper sounding studio for audition.
00:20:50
Speaker
And he's like, that's how I knew you were serious because literally after a what, a month, six weeks, you showed me that you were building a studio. And I'm like, okay, he's proving me wrong. Cause he's like, I was a little skeptical because of everyone coming to me and then realizing how much money it is to make a studio. Ever since then, he's like, okay. He started to basically teach me secrets of the trade. And he's like, one of the number one things that I think you currently lack right now is you need some lessons and go to workshops to learn more about voice acting. And I did a few of those already and I still aim to do more. Ever since then, I've just been getting better, even still practicing on stream as you can see. any sort of practice helps. And yeah, eventually we're here. And ah now I got into a Genshin Impact audio book and a frigging Fortnite animation, which I never thought I would be a part of, which was like, what? Last month, roughly, that's it's crazy. My goodness. But yeah, now we're here. And basically how it all started was just me trying to imitate my favorite anime video game characters in my own way. All those voice actors I looked up to, which I still do, trying to you know get to their level and hopefully meet them down the line and maybe learn from them. Hell, maybe one of them might even direct me for a project. Who knows, right? so Just picking up on something you said there about your friends, realizing that you were serious. It's quite interesting because I feel as if there's an overlap between, I think, podcasters and really just anybody who works in a mainly audio medium. The amount of people who say, I'm going to be a voice actor because I like to do silly voices and then they kind of realize how hard it is. Oh, it's friggin tough, dude. Trust me, I still have a hard time, but you got to keep going. Otherwise, how are you going to really try to make any sort of dream happen with it, right? Oh, absolutely. And and did you feel like that see the early stages of your voice acting career? Did you feel quite nervous about going into it and knowing that you had to kind of overcome this hurdle before you started to kind of get into it? Yeah, dude, all the time. I remember at some point, even before I started picking up some good steam that I am now, I was putting out audition after audition for these projects and I wasn't getting anything. And yeah, I would be lying if I didn't mention the whole idea of either not hearing back or saying like, Hey, you're good, but not what you're looking for. I'd be lying if I didn't say it affected me a little bit. You know what I mean? It's just like, Hey, do I really want to keep this going? Is it really worth all my energy and the know, mental strain to put out an audition and see what happens. Right. But at the end of the day, I kept it going with some encouragement from, you know, my best friend, he's like, Hey, I'll be honest. That's literally how it's going to be. And, you know, no shame if you want to back out, he encouraged me to keep going. He's like, there's something there. I think you just need to keep going. Give yourself at most another year, see how you feel. And, you know, I took his word for it and then I just kept it going. And for some reason, Satsu, now, every time I put out an audition, either I don't hear back or they say, no, I'm very cool with it now. I don't know what happened, but first I thought I was in denial. I was like, hey, am I in denial saying like, ah, it's fine. I actually thought long and hard. I had to do some introspection. I was like, no, I'm actually content with how this is going. I think it was more the realization. I was like, Hey, this is how it's going to be if you want to make it in animation. You know what I mean? You're sadly not going to get every single role that you audition for. That would be fantastic. Oh, that'd be awesome. And another thing is I ran into another lovely human being on Twitch who is also a fellow voice actress, funny enough. I don't know if Stepp's watching this, not, not Stepp, Twitch.db, not, not Stepp. She streams once in a blue moon, but her and I collabed on the Phoenix Wright stuff. I think you've probably seen those videos, right, Satsu? Oh, yeah. She was the one playing all the girl roles, pretty much. She was the only girl in the room, but I even hit her up for advice. And she's all like, Hey, one of the number one things is it's great that you're putting out these auditions for animation. And I understand you want to make it. And then she sat me down and was like, but it's tough. You're going to get probably a role once a year, twice a year, three times a year. If you're lucky, it's hard. Yes, go to classes to like she told me the same thing my best friend did and that but another thing that stood out from what she was telling me was like, look, if you want to try to make this a bit sustainable, don't pigeonhole yourself into one genre of voice acting. And I'm like, what do you mean by that? She's like, don't just do animation. Don't just try to get into anime dubbing, all that kind of stuff.
00:24:38
Speaker
That's great that you want to do that. And I'm not trying to discourage you. But if you want to make a living off of this, you need to do it all. You can't just stick to one genre, you know, like do some commercials, do some narration, help do some Fiverr projects. If you need some extra money in your pockets, she encouraged me to really like push myself out there into the other other genres. Right. And, you know, I took her advice and actually it's been working out a lot better because come 2023, I ended up hitting up actually a ah startup company.
00:25:04
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And, you know, their whole thing was, oh, you know, we do narrations for a lot of YouTube videos and we get clients talking about the hottest trends or like what's good in the world right now. That's mainly what we do. You know, so I thought I decided to keep an open mind and go for it. I'm like, Hey, I want to get into the world of anti narration. I want to give this a shot. Here is, you know, my sample of what my reads sound like.
00:25:22
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Cause one of the number one things that a lot of my voice acting teachers told me was, like Hey, you have a really good natural read. And I think that'll be your money maker. That's what's going to keep you going and sustained. Basically have some financial sustenance. Cause at the end of the day, dude, yeah, it's great that you're doing what you love, but at the same time, you're also only human. You need to keep a roof over your head. You need to keep yourself fed if you want to keep doing this. So I do believe with me age kind of came with that mindset in the sense of like, I can't just do animation anymore. I need to do it all. Right. So I decided to take steps advice a bit more seriously now. But yeah, no, I got in. Needless to say, it was a startup company. You're always going to have your hiccups and what have you. So a bit of a shaky start. But now as we do it more, we're a lot more professional and getting a lot better. We're getting a lot more clients, hence getting me more work. You know what I mean? Which is great. And now that has become my main source of income for voice acting. Not enough to the point where I can quit my job currently, because that's one of my goals. But yeah, that's what I'm working towards. So I can eventually just not have to worry about paying bills and just live my best life on my own terms. You know, that was one of my things too. But yeah. No, now I mainly make money off of narrations while also still auditioning for stuff I want to be in like animation because I feel like a part of it is that, hey, I might not be doing what I truly want to do with voice acting, but I'm still voice acting. You're still a voice actor at the end of the day or voice over artist if you want to go with a professional feel.
00:26:36
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yeah I'm still doing it. And that was mainly what I wanted to to do is like, you're still doing it. You're making money. You're fed. You have a place over your head and you're actually like good with bills. I think now that I've gotten older, things have changed when it comes to priorities. I also decided, Oh, I don't know if I told you this, but I'm going to be recording my first ever commercial demo and I'm going to try to go for an agent in 2025. I'm going to send out that demo to agencies just to see if they're hiring anyone. right? If you're good with commercials, you will make a lot of money. And I'm like, okay, we need to get the financial stability to not only just invest in myself and the bills, but invest in this too. Cause I want to take more classes, right? And maybe invest in marketing. If I can, that would be cool too, right? Cause that's currently my plan right now, but yeah. Now we're here and then it's all full circle because one of my biggest voice acting dreams, which is one of my more wholesome dreams, which my best friend and step found really cute was ever since I did that Phoenix, right? Colab would step and I'll just say Ryan, when they were both with me on Twitch and we're just doing all the silly voices for all the ridiculous characters that Phoenix, right? Have to offer. One of my biggest dreams was, I want to be in a project with these two. We don't have to be the protagonist trio. We we just have to be in the same sort of world and media. That came true a lot faster than I thought because that Fortnite thing that I voiced, they're both in it too. Steppe is actually voicing one of the main characters in that whole game mode. And then Ryan is actually voicing basically the guy that gives you upgrades and what have you. So I'm like, oh, well, that dream came true a lot faster than I thought. You know what I mean?
00:27:57
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And yeah, it all just came full circle at the end, which is still really funny to me. And I told them that they're like, Oh, you wholesome bastard. Come here. You gave me a virtual hug and what have you, you know? But yeah, now we're here, dude, just making my money mainly off of narration. And now I'm doing this fantastic podcast with one of my longtime friends and I'm, you know, I could be happier right now. Oh, thank you. And your PayPal donation is in transit just now. Oh, yes. i havent Yeah. Yeah. I hope it's all there. I mean, I take it in installments to just saying So, sorry, just to double check, is your email, what is it, best voice actor in Canada at? At Canada.ca, yes. At Canada.ca. Exactly. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. You know, you have to make it VO capital because there's a small VO and he's not as big as me. Of course.
00:28:44
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And for legal reasons, that was indeed a joke. The Red Panda lawyer is waving me down. Yes. So is my Blowfish lawyer. They're looking at this, you know. um Don't worry, guys. We're good. Oh my God. It's like a Phoenix Wright situation with the Red Fandas. Yeah, Red Fandas and a Blowfish in like a suit and what have you. Objection. yeah but Oh, Lord. You see, you joke about that, but I've actually and I have no idea why I commissioned it, but I love it. It's just a really angry looking red panda and a waistcoat and a jacket. I edited it as ah into the Phoenix Wright courtroom just with the text that says, for legal reasons, this is a joke. That's amazing. I need to see that. I really need to yeah send that to me after this or if you can show it now, if that's possible. Oh, yeah, I can say. Hell yeah. I'd love to see that. That sounds so funny. see the artists that I get to do our work, they must just kind of look at me and go, what do you want? They're like, what is this guy smoking? OK, pretty much, right? So at this stage, I think they're just being polite. Oh, 100%. They're like, I'm making money. It's fine. I'll do this. You know? ah It's fine. It's good money. And he's a podcaster. I understand, you know? Yeah, there it is there. Let's see here. Let me see this. For the rest of the hours, I've just sent it through. Oh, that's amazing.
00:30:01
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That's great, dude. I genuinely can't remember when that joke actually started, to be honest. But I just remember thinking, I've said it so many times throughout the years, I have to get them commissioned. I have to get them immortalised and chat tsunami lore, as it were.
00:30:17
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I feel like I need to hit up the same artist and be like, could you do the same except with this Blowfish instead? They'd be like, what the fuck? Well, actually, I could probably hit up. And for anyone who is curious about Blowfish and I's JoJo Bizarre Adventure Reviews, I actually got those redone, would you believe? Because I remember it was a purple background and it was just the text that said Chatsunami. And then it was whatever part it was, like Diamond as Unbreakable or Golden One, part four was so good. Oh, it really, that was so good. Anyway, but then I ended up asking my very good friend Rose Carlo, who amazing chibi artist, honestly, if you haven't heard of him by now, he's on Twitter and he's on Blue Sky, cut him up. But I came to him and I was like, I've got this idea that I've had in my head for a good couple of years now. Would you be able to draw the red panda avatar as Jotaro and the low fish as Star Platinum? That was amazing. I think I know what you're talking about. It sounds familiar. Yeah, he understood the assignment, definitely. It looks amazing, but I'm so glad that we managed to get it done.
Creative Ventures and Art Commissions
00:31:25
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Right. See, to be fair, the lovely guy, I think he's just used to me asking now.
00:31:29
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he He's just like, okay, what's he thinking of this time? Okay, I could do that pretty much. Yeah, pretty much. He keeps contacting me being like, oh, so what is it this time? And I'm like, right. Yeah. For example, a couple months ago, my friends, Martin, Andrew and I, we did a Dragon Ball month.
00:31:46
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And it took me ages to come up with, oh, what do I want? I want one person to Goku, one is Vegeta. Oh, but then there's a third one, and there wasn't really a good trio in Dragon Ball. So I thought, what could I have where all three of us are included? Anyway, long story short, that's why the cover art for that month is us doing the Ginyu force poses. Yeah, I saw that. That was amazing. I was like, let's go. Yeah, honestly, the art that comes from those three months is just absolutely incredible. You as Captain Ginyu is just, it's amazing.
00:32:17
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It's amazing and horrifying. Again, I think he does an amazing job every time, but there's always that slight trepidation of saying, do you know what I mean when I say this? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine. I hope he knows what I mean. And then he shows it and you're like, this is amazing.
00:32:34
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Oh, it always is, because I remember the first time I came to him and I was like, can I get you to draw a red panda playing with a controller? And he was like, yeah, yeah, sure. And it was more of a semi-realistic panda. And I was like, oh, great. And I mean, you'll probably remember this because it was my profile picture for the longest time. And then he started moving away to more cartoony concepts. Now I feel as if it's just like second nature. honestly, if you want something to this and you want to use them on your art CV, please for the love of God do. Yeah, do it that way. You also get like the exposure and be like, Hey, what what is this podcast? You know, you never know when it comes to podcasting. The community is pretty large, dude. There's so many people out there that want to listen to podcasts.
00:33:18
Speaker
see, it's a lot bigger than I genuinely thought it was. Shripping there's a dime a dozen of us. I mean, whenever you go into Twitch for every, I don't know, one person playing, I don't know, like Ace Attorney or something like that. There's thousands of others behind. And don't get me wrong, you get the same in podcasting, but I feel as if in podcasting, although you get your bad apples here and there, I do think for the most part, they are a very supportive community to one another. For example, I started a group last year called the Podpack Collective and that group of podcasters, honestly, they keep me going. good and They're just absolutely fantastic people. I mean, it's the same with yourself as well when it came to streaming. And I was like, I don't know if I'm going to keep going with this, but then I met people like yourself. And then I thought, you know what, it's actually not that bad. I kept going at it. And although we've technically diverged from streaming. Both of us have. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I only do it twice a week now because I want to focus on this more. And like the community was very understanding they like, yeah, dude, go for it. I'm happy that, you know, there's steam there now. Now you're trying to capitalize on is like pretty much. And again, you're probably hear the motivational music in the background here when they say this, but I had the tiger baby. Yeah.
00:34:31
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It's like, when you go for your passion projects, you have to take chances at it. You really do, seriously. It's something that I think a lot of people heavily underestimate. I mean, my myself included. When I started the podcast, I did it as a spin-off to streaming because I didn't really know if I wanted you to keep going as a streamer or was I gonna do this, do that? The more the years went on, the more I enjoyed podcasting. If it wasn't for podcasting, then there's a lot of opportunities I wouldn't have got otherwise and I wouldn't have been this close to a lot of people without that. But, I mean, it must be the same with you in, of course, voice acting, where it's something that you begin with because you enjoy it and you think, all right, I mean, you don't necessarily think it's going to be easy easy, but you think, oh, how hard could it be final last word? Trust me, yeah. When I was first starting, I was like, Oh, I got this. I got talent. I'm like, no, but there's also like so many other people that also have talent. Jesus Christ. You know, but do you get that a lot from, let's just say the more negative side of the internet where they kind of put down voice acting this, Oh, it's just silly voices. Oh, it's easy. I could do that. Trust me. There's so many people out there that are like, I can't be that hard. There's a lot of people I've ran into that are like, oh, I have a good Elmo impersonation. Great. Anything else? You know what I mean? It's like, it's going to take more than just your Elmo and Kermit impersonation to get yourself out there. And not only that, there's going to be rarely anybody in like a studio or someone trying to make something, generally try to make a passion project happen. And you know, this idiot walks in with a Elmo or like Kermit impersonation. She's like, this is not what we're looking for. What are you doing? You know what I mean? There's a lot of people like that. Unfortunately, like you said, there's bad apples in every community. I've also ran into a lot of people in the voice acting community that are also incredibly supportive. The guy running the startup company that I'm in for the narrations, he became an accountability buddy of mine and he's a really good dude and he's gonna be directing me for my commercial demo because I'm like, hey, do you do directing? Because I think you know what my voice sounds like and like what I'm good at and you're also very good at capturing my niches with my voice. So I think I'm gonna need your help making this commercial demo happen.
00:36:35
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And he was very cool with it. He's like, yeah, dude, you know, I'll also get my buddy who also mixed my demos too. And his demos sound really good. And I'm like, Oh, who is this guy? He's just like, Oh yeah, no, thankfully he doesn't charge that much compared to like how many other people charge out there for recording a whole demo. So it was affordable. if He had to ask me a few questions like, okay, be honest here. How much training have you actually had? And I told him where and with who and he's like, okay, cool, cool, cool. Right. And I think based off of that, they were determining a price. And, ah you know, thankfully it was something very affordable that something pretty affordable. So having accountability buddies definitely will help. And I'm sure you feel the same way with your podcast collective group. Yeah. Oh, no, absolutely. Because they definitely keep me in check is the wrong word, because I always joke. We've got a lovely member of the group who runs a podcast called the two girls one reusable cup podcast.
00:37:20
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That sounds so funny. Oh, no, it is. It's hilarious. We did an amazing interview episode together and she's been on since talking about especially Mass Effect. Let's just say Mass Effect was a big one. At the start of next year, we will have an amazing episode coming out on Stuntford, which is going to be so fun. But we always joke that she is the one that if the group's not in check, she'll start throwing sustainable bricks at us to keep going. Hey, you need someone like that. That's the thing. So Oh yeah, absolutely. It's amazing what you can get out of it because, and this is something that's like the kind of sentimental hours here, but it's amazing what you can get out of a creative endeavor like that. And you get, not always, but you usually get what you put into it. Right. I don't mean if you put in all of your effort, you're going to get all of it back again right away because that's unfortunately just not how it works. That's sadly not how it works. basically you won't get your fruits of your labor as quickly as you might think and you know that's not for everyone and that's not faulting anyone out there there's just some people who just can't do it because they want faster results and that's fine you know because I remember and you probably remember as well the amount of just negativity and the streamer community when it was just so many people saying oh I don't know why I'm not famous you know these people are rubbish and the thing is it's like you're allowed to be discouraged if you're not getting as fast result as you think. But at the same time, you have to put in some kind of positive energy in there to get it back again, because I do remember this, especially with podcasting recently, where there's a few podcasters that I've met that have complained about, oh, I don't get the listens, I don't get the retention, or this and that, and you're trying to be supportive to be like, okay, what can you do here to say, oh, let's, I don't know, network more, or let's do this or that, but it's always the more and more they complain about it, it's more apparent they don't really want to fix anything or change the way that they do things. And it's one thing being stubborn and setting your ways, because I know Chatsanami especially, we are still at that stage where we can experiment with episodes, do just wacky different types of episodes, whereas there's a lot of people out there who, whether it's streamers, whether it's YouTubers, podcasters, they'll do the same thing day in, day out, but they're not very engaging with it, if you know what I mean. This isn't shouting out anybody in particular, but it's doing that kind of thing and then being Pikachu shocked face. Building on to your point, one of the number one things my buddy Ryan, the guy who taught me everything told me was if you get kicked off of a project because something happens, budget constraints, or they found a better fit, obviously you're allowed to be mad about it. One of the things is like, hey, keep any sort of personal feelings off the internet. You could rant about it to me all you want. Just don't post it on Twitter because producers will see that and they'll notice he's being salty about it. Maybe we shouldn't hire this person. One of the biggest examples he gave me was, I believe it was hell of a boss. Do you know hell of a boss? Oh yeah.
00:40:27
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I believe it was hell of a boss. I could be wrong. But originally it was a YouTube series. Right. And then Amazon Prime picked it up, which is fantastic. And then what ended up happening was they basically took out the original cast and replaced it with other people, basically more well-known voice actors and what have you. Right. Some of those voice actors in the original YouTube cast, they didn't like that. And, you know, they were going off on Twitter and social media saying, like Oh, what the hell? And what have you? Basically your typical negative stuff. Some of them didn't do that. Some of them were pretty cool about it. They're like, Hey, you know, that sucks, but it is what it is. Right. And guess who got brought back as extras for hell of a boss in the Amazon prime version, the people who didn't make a huge fuss about it. Whereas the people who did and went on Twitter and be negative about it, they didn't bring them back. That is the biggest example of game. He's like, yeah, be like the latter group of people. Don't be like the former group of people. You could rant about it to me all you want. And I'm glad to do that for you because you're my best friend, but yeah, just keep it off the internet. I was like, Oh yeah, no, trust me. I know that from streaming because. I see some you know streamers out there that just like to spout negativity because they're not growing as fast, right? And again, not calling out anyone here either. I see a lot of that happen, which is why when it comes to Twitter for me, I only stay there five minutes a day just looking for voice acting work from indie creators that'd be like, hey, I really want to make my video game or animation happen. Auditions for the lines are right here. Auditions are due X-State, right? That's all I do on Twitter now. And maybe like the homies posts, if you know they appear on my feed, I'll be like, oh, Satsu's killing it on a podcast? Like, oh, Mirage is killing it for streaming? Like Mike is killing it on stream? That's all I really do on Twitter. Just keep it positive and business-like, but stay away from the negative. It affects you at the end of the day, even though it doesn't have to do with you, right? And you're not involved. I don't know if that's just me. No, I'm completely with you there, because there's only maybe the odd one or two things that I'll see that really irks me. And again, I don't mean that in the sense of, oh, um I'm angry at you know the state of podcast and da, da, da. But if there's something that is worth
00:42:18
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talking about or bringing attention to, it then sure, maybe I'll talk about it if it's a personal thing that affects me or the channel. But I'm completely with you there because the amount of people I see who complain about, is there any point? Oh, I can't be bothered. I think what people fail to realize, no matter what type of creator you are, is there is a fine line between being human, being very open and transparent with your emotions. That is perfectly fine. But if you go from one side to the other, whether you're overly positive or overly negative, overly negative, yeah the fact is that you have to remember, we can certainly talk for hours about how certain content creators don't realise this, that if you're putting yourself out there, you're putting yourself out there to represent your own branding.
Online Representation and Persona
00:43:10
Speaker
as it were, whether it's for your streaming channel, whether it's for yourself, what you do on the internet reflects on you as a person. That's what I'm saying, right? For a lot of people, they don't seem to really understand that, so you get a lot of people with very, let's face it, feral audiences that come after people. And I mean, compared to our sizes versus God knows, you know, I'm not going to name names, but insert any huge content grading here, but there's that kind of accountability that I know of course you have and I have in realising that if we want to succeed in our respective fields, we can't just stomp our feet because the amount of times, and granted it's only a small amount, but the amount of times that I've reached out to people to say, hey, do you want to do an episode? And they've either said no, they've maybe ghosted me, or they've said, I don't know. That is perfectly fine. It is fine. Because A, they're obviously entitled to say no. They don't have to say, oh, I want to be part of Chatsunami. But B as well, there would be absolutely zero benefits of me stomping my feet saying, oh, how dare they not.
00:44:20
Speaker
come on the podcast and talk and blah, blah, blah. Because it doesn't benefit me not just in terms of image, but also as a person because that is just such a toxic mindset to have to say that people, oh, they should be honored and everything. And there's a time and a place for, sorry, I had decided that, oh, you should be honored. I'm like, oh, I know so many people like that. hate it. Oh, is it that bad? No, I'm just like, Oh, I've heard so many people say like, Oh, they rejected me. Oh, they should be honored that they got invited. I'm like, no, they're entitled to their time, who they give their time to. And if they want to come on with their people at the end of the day, I feel as if there is a time and a place for that kind of attitude. If you're trying to, you know, pick yourself up and say, okay, I'm the best. I'm going to be able to do this. You want to tell yourself that you don't want to go insane. I guess I'm going to be the next podcast viewer. No, no, you don't. You don't want to go out like you are from Winnie the Pooh or anything, but at the same time, you want to give confidence. You don't want to give off arrogance. I do think that is something that a lot of creators at the very beginning, especially the formula, and especially if they get a modicum of success where they kind of think, oh, I'm too famous therefore, I'm not going to give my time. So people, that's the thing. Yeah. There's always the polar ends of each spectrum. I'm like, there's either the people who think they're just that good. And then the other side that, Oh, I'm not going to waste my time on you. You're nothing to me. And I'm like, Oh God, there's no one in the middle. That's lame. But yeah, no, I completely get what you mean. I'm like, a lot of people think like, Oh, whatever I put out on the internet, whatever persona I have out there, no one's going to take it seriously. And I'm like, well, Here's the thing, you know, sure, you're putting a part of yourself out there on the Internet, whether you're a streamer, content creator, anything, right? But the thing is, there's also a bit of truth to those personas that people like to put out there. They're a small part of you, but they're magnified times 100. But what a lot of people do, I even catch myself doing it is whatever energy they give off while they stream. This mainly like applies to stream is basically what I like to try to do is what kind of energy do I want to give off to my community? And, you know, I try to picture myself
00:46:23
Speaker
in the viewer's shoes to see like what I would want to see, what would make me happy, what would make me entertained whenever I would give my time to someone who is live streaming. You know, I try to be like, okay, we'll go up chill, positive energy, you know, try to, you know, lift people up. That's what I want to do. That's a part of me. It might not be all of Alita Vega. That might be Blowfish Man TV, if you understand what I mean by that. that, but those personas that people like to put out there, they're probably parts of themselves that they didn't know they had. And it's just magnified times a hundred. And I like to say you're looking at yourself through a stained glass. It's like a part of you, but it's also not. Basically, if you're a viewer and you're watching yourself, you're looking at an aspect of you through like, I guess a kaleidoscope or ah not the most clear glass, but times like a hundred, or I could really put it like that part of you is kind of like a tiny ant and you're looking at it through a magnifying glass times like a hundred. So that's how I like to see, you know, these stream personas. And I'm like, yeah, put yourself in the audience's shoes for once. What do you want to see? And that kind of comes off as like, Oh, he's only making content for himself. I mean, not really, but at the same time, I can see why people would think that because I'm like, he's only really doing it because he wants to make content for him. And I was like, well, I feel like there has to be a tiny bit of greed when making content. Cause at the end of the day, if you're making content for something that you're not super passionate about, or you're not really aligned with.
00:47:36
Speaker
people on the internet, they're not stupid. They're going to see it. Even if you try to fake it, I'm like, hmm, there might be a lot of trolls and idiots out there, but they can see things. That's the thing. I don't know if you feel the same way Satsu, but this is the thing that, and again, there's a severe irony of me saying this because I used to be too, but still.
00:47:54
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ah v But I feel as if the major problem that all stems from is there's a lot of content creators out there that don't want to be themselves. yeah They want to be the next whatever, you know? right I mean, it's like, for example, if you went around saying, oh, I want to be the next Chris Sabat or Sean Chemo, you know? I will say I wish I was at their levels.
00:48:20
Speaker
If someone were to genuinely call me that and believe in like, hey, thank you for the compliment, but I am nowhere near their level. Thank you. I will take that though. But that's the thing though. It's like there's definitely a difference between setting your goals to that and saying, I want to be on their level. I want to be just as talented as them. I mean, it's the same with podcasting. When I hear a lot of people saying, oh, I want to be the next, whether it's Critical Role for doing the podcast, or, oh, I want to be the next Joe Rogan for whatever godforsaken reason, they want to be somebody else, you know? And especially when it comes to reach-a-bing, that opened my eyes. And I think because there's a lot of anime fans, of course, in the fandom, and they see a lot of these models of like life who's and husband does. I know what you mean. Pretty much scantily clad. Scantily clad. Some husbandos. You know, we could do both. Some they-thems as well, you know? Yeah. Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion, but... Oh no, absolutely. But you know, you get them with the over-exaggerated features and the widely complicated lore. They're like a demon that's been trapped for a thousand years. And then for some weird reason, they woke up and decided to go and twitch. It's like, okay. And people really get into it. It's super interesting. I was like, dang, this is literally like running a cult at that point. I mean, don't get me wrong, there's been so many success stories through it. There was that Iron Mouse who broke that sub record recently. She's crazy. Iron Mouse is absolutely insane. Oh no, she is absolutely fantastic. But you've also got that. I can't I can't remember her name, is it guru or something? I don't know a lot too many Vtubers, honestly speaking. I'm friends with a few and they're really funny people off stream. That's the thing. Oh yeah, same. I feel like I should include you in that list. I was like, you are technically a Vtuber. So I'm like, you know that meme where it's a guy at the party in the corner and he's like, nobody knows I was a Vtuber.
00:50:17
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ah Is that you? Yeah, that's me. It's like nobody knows. Shh, pretty much. See, whenever I go out to either walk my dog or I go to the shops and I wear my Chatsunami hoodie, and I mean this, even at Comic Con, nobody has stopped me and gone, hey, are you a Chatsunami from Chatsunami? I was like, why does your voice sound familiar? Are you a red panda by chance?
00:50:39
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I mean, I've actually gotten compliments for the logo and everything being like, oh, that's a cool logo and things, and that's really cool. But yes, going back to YouTube, the reason that I brought up that Shark Hero person is because I saw a video recently of like a baseball game and they were singing, I think it was Take Me Out to the Ball Game or something like that, on a big screen. You see nowadays the popularity that has boomed from this industry, so You get a lot of, and in particular younger streamers as well, they want to replicate that success. They want to be the next demon, or the next king, or something like that, you know? Or the next quote-unquote ludtubers and whatnot. Yeah, I got that. There's some that I think
00:51:21
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probably take it at the other end. I mean, again, it's not just the WeTubers, it's usually people who they want to emulate their favourite creators, like they want to be the next in this headless in an episode before where I was like, oh, they want to be the next Pokémon or PewDiePie. And I'm like, those two probably haven't been as relevant as compared to, you know, the new ones. Like, there's a lot of up and comers that have just taken off somehow, you know? Oh, yeah. I mean, I think the recent ones is that it's a Kai Senate. Yeah, I've heard of him. I only started knowing these new up and comers. Funny enough, Satsu was due to my narration work, because sometimes I even do narrations about these new up and comers, whether they're really horrible people or really good people. You know what I mean? So yeah, you find out very, very fast. Right.
00:52:08
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And this day and age, you definitely find out fast. But that's the thing though, people want to be like these people. And don't get me wrong, it's great to aspire to that. And I have to say, in podcasting, there's not really... I mean, don't get me wrong, the people that I do look up to in the podcasting sphere is my fellow indie podcasters, especially in the podcast collective. We've got the 2001 usable cut podcast, we've got casting reviews, Seismic Cinema, the Game Club Pod, and they're nostalgic. And there's honestly just so, so many other podcasters that I've met during my time there. I look up to them, I would say, more than probably bigger podcasters.
Community and Indie Podcasting Lessons
00:52:48
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You know, like, I mean, industry standard podcasters. There are good podcasters out there. I'm not diminishing their success, but The thing is, I feel as if I learn a lot more from them and it's nice being with them in that level to be like, right, okay, how can I make my show better, but also try to bring these guys along as well. right Whereas I think a lot of people think, all right, I want to be the best content creator that no one ever was. Yeah, exactly. To beat them it's a real test and now they're in jail, but that's another story. It's just as crazy to think the amount of people who don't want to be themselves. I find that quite sad to be honest. It is very sad. There's a commentary in there about the fact that Twitter slash X has been overrun with bots now. Oh God, yeah.
00:53:35
Speaker
ah especially about people not wanting to be themselves because they all are just the same computer code. But it's just it's really sad to see because people are either too afraid just to. And again, i'm I'm not expecting them to come out with hot takes or controversial things. But it's like, you know, when you were younger and you like something and then someone's like, oh, you like that? And then you had to pretend almost that, oh, no, I don't like to fit in with the rest of the kids. And now that almost feels a lot more maturely. I mean, now I don't care. I just talk about Sonic and Red Pandas all day, every day. Because I mean, after a minute, I suppose my Red Panda is to your blowfish in a way. Pretty much, right? Yeah. It's something that you brought up earlier, and I think that is such a perfect point was how there's a lot of people out there that they don't realize that a part of them becomes their persona. Right. You know, it's like you could spend hours and hours crafting, again, Demon Lord King toaster or something toasters, refrigerator, I don't know yeah know. They could craft this and you know they could be over the top and, oh, I'm a shout to kind of streamer. But then at the end of the day, they still have a part of them that's attached to that. while When I started, I had absolutely zero intention. I don't get me wrong, you know, a big stuff up and things like that. But I never try to be somebody that I'm not, whether it's on the podcast, whether it's streaming or anything like that, because at the end of the day, as silly as it sounds, and I wonder if you feel the same about yours, but you know, it's like it's my podcast and my work. So right I mean, do you feel the same way as well with your voice acting, your streaming and so on? Oh dude, a hundred percent. So, you know, going back to the whole thing of people don't want to be themselves or really your point of like, Hey, they're trying to be, if we're going to talk about voice acting, the next Chris Abbott or Sean Chammell, right? I remember one of the biggest mistakes I made early on was trying to do their reads, trying to do their style of reads, right? But the thing is my best friend really like snapped me out of that and encouraged me to be like, Hey, don't try to be those guys. Cause they're them and they're you, you know, you need to try to be like, you need to try to be like Ollie de Vega. How would Ollie de Vega read this? pretend that for some reason Chris Abbott, Sean Chemo don't exist or whoever like he was talking about at the time. You need to picture it in a sense of like, Hey, say you got the role of X character. How would you read these lines? Forget your inspirations for a minute. We want to see you. Right. So ever since then, my reads have become a lot better and a lot more natural. And I'm very happy about that. Cause if I tried to imitate one of my inspirations, I think people would see that be like, this guy's not really being himself. He's not really selling it. He's just imitating it. One of the biggest things that my best friend said to me was like, Hey, Hey, if they wanted name voice actor here for the role, they could have hit them up, but they want you. They don't want them. They're probably aware of how famous they are and how good they are. They want you. They don't matter. You do at this moment, right? That's like one of the biggest advices he gives me, right? So, you know, ever since like I just act, but also not act, if that makes sense. yeah
00:56:29
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My reads sound way better and a lot more genuine. But yeah, no, I do completely agree that people are too scared to really be themselves and put themselves out there, you know what I mean? And it is a little sad to see that with a lot of VTubers, I'm not saying it's all of them, you know, they have the benefit of just hiding behind this model they've made 90% of the time, which is a made up number, you know, they're super self conscious, like, are people gonna like me? This is an assumption really, but I feel like if I were to do that, it would get to a point for me where I'm like, hey, listen, I would have some introspection, be like, does the community only like me because of who I portray, which is some crazy demon Lord VTuber? I don't know. b Blowfish VTuber will go with that. Imagine. Or will they like me for me if I were just to stream myself?
00:57:13
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I feel like for me as an artist, they would get to that point for me and be like, do they only really like me for who I put on screen or who I am? And, you know, that would kind of mess with me quite a bit. That's why I couldn't do VTubing. As fun as it sounds, I'm like, I couldn't do it. I don't know, because I think I would, knowing the actor side of me, I would really get into that persona and then just, yeah.
00:57:30
Speaker
I don't know. And then people are going to just really like that side of me and just not all of me. And I don't know, that doesn't sit well with me, man. You have a great point though, because a lot of people when this has gone into the very deep topic of parasocial relationships, where a lot of communities, they have attached themselves onto this idealized image of a particular person yeah or creator, and especially when it comes to YouTube. And you know, because whether they like it or not, they've got the good art, they've got the bad art, they've got the communities that grow underneath them. You're completely right. You have to step back as a creator and say to yourself, are they a liking me for me or are they just liking it because of how I present this particular character that's somewhat OC?
Red Panda Mascot Significance
00:58:15
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Right, right. Going back to the Sonic days there, flashback. When I put the red panda there, I'm kind of stuck with it now in a good way, but every time there's like a red panda that pops up on Twitter or Blue Sky or anything, I keep getting tagged in it as if, oh, is that you, Satsui? that's funny and it's just a red panda eating an apple or something like yeah ah yeah that's me or a joke and say oh no that's my pr manager or something it's my cousin or something like that yeah it's just as great to do something like that and kind of joke around but yeah i can imagine for the more because mine's essentially like a joke-ish
00:58:53
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but model, but for some people it's their somewhat more identity online. Again, that sounds like really silly to say, but when I started streaming Vtubing, I was a nervous wreck at the end of every stream. I was like, oh god, I don't know if I did well, I don't know if people are liking me. Honestly, like I'm a nervous wreck in real life. Let's face it. Oh no, I've got better. I'm asking better. That's good. That's good. But at the end of the day, I was like, oh, I don't know if people like my content or they're like me, bla bla blah, blah, blah. And then it's like exposure therapy is blunt. Exactly. But yeah, you do it day in, day out, you try different things. And then, of course, when the Red Panda came along, it almost felt like, ah and again, that's considered like the weirdest superhero ever, like an alter ego. as it were. You normal people when they say, oh, they've got like a will for a dragon and inside them, something like that. Yeah, exactly. I get that. Yeah, apparently mine's is a red panda. But you know, it's like now whenever I see the red panda, I obviously can't separate it from the fact that I associate it with the podcast, with the e-communist. to the extent I'm calling the listeners and followers, Pandalorians and things. It's built up over the years, but it's also almost given me the confidence to go out there, to put my persona out there. It's something that I don't think a lot of people
01:00:15
Speaker
probably would really expect. you know I think when people go into it, they think, right, okay, let's slap her. And again, no shade to anyone who does use this, but they use the GFX logo and they're like, oh, look, it's me, but animated. right and there There's so much more to that that you're putting yourself into this. And it sounds as if I'm admitting to living the Hannah Montana lifestyle, but with like a right hander. Yeah, right. I know that feeling just like, is this my
Convention Experiences and Aspirations
01:00:42
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Hannah Montana? You know what I mean? yeah My Blowfish Man TV. Say no seriousness, do you go out to places or comic cons and things and you look around and think, nobody here knows that I'm a famous voice actor? Oh dude, yeah. I wouldn't say famous voice actor, but oh god. You know what the biggest example of that is actually Satsu? I don't know if I told you this dude. So one, I do have a girlfriend, but she's all the way in Connecticut. Every year I go there to go to the local Connecticut convention for everything. There's anime stuff there, video game stuff there. Voice actors go there too. Some of my favorite ones like actually attend. And I ended up meeting three of my favorite ones. All the ones I met were all three of my favorite lady voice actors. One of them being, I don't know how deep you are into Digimon fandom, but I met Rika's voice actress, which is Renamon's partner. right? And she was an absolute sweetheart, Melissa Phan, great human being. And you know, I've also known her for other work as well. And what was so cool about it was her booth was literally beside the main cowboy bebop cast booth. So she was beside Jets booth as well as phase booth. Sadly, you know, Stephen Blum couldn't make it because he spike because he's doing Stephen Blum things and he's really popular. And I do want to attend his classes one day. But you know, I was telling like, yeah, it'd be so nice if you know, Steve could make it. I was like, yeah, I know I miss him, but I think after this, we're all gonna go meet up with him since Connecticut's not too far from Jersey. So yeah, it's it's still gonna be, you know, a cowboy bebop reunion, right? Absolute sweetheart. And in my head, I'm like, she doesn't know I'm one of her. And I'm like, well, you have a good day, Melissa, you know what I mean? And I literally felt the exact same way for Raiden Shogan's voice actress from Genshin Impact, who's also cool as fuck. I don't know if you know Chainsaw Man, but Makima's voice actress I met, and she's absolute sweetheart too. That was like literally me as I was conversing with three of my senpais. And I'm like, they don't know that I'm one of them. who knows? Maybe one day I get some role in an anime and they're part of it. And they see me, they'd be like, wait a second. That would be crazy. Wouldn't it? Yeah. It's like, you know, the Spider-Man pointing. yeah pretty much just like wait yeah Oh dude. So one of the biggest things was only my girlfriend can tell cause she knows me very well was the very first time I went over to kinetic on, I met, are you familiar with Yu Yu Hakusho by chance? yeah I met Yusuke's voice actor. I went to one of his panels and he's a really cool dude. You know, if we're going to talk Dragon Ball Z, he's rad. It's in it as well as super boo. That's who he plays in the Dragon Ball Z universe. you know He was such a cool dude, man. It was the biggest Senpai notice me moment, but I hit it so well after he was done talking about his career and what got him into voice acting.
01:02:58
Speaker
And he's like, yeah, man, so does, uh, anybody have any questions? And I raised my hand up first, right? So I was like, yeah, I have a question. And he's like, yeah, you in the back over there. And I asked him, I was like, Hey, when recording for use case lines, he screamed spirit guns so much. How many times were you close to losing your voice or did you ever lose your voice during any of those recording sessions? And he laughed. He's like, ah that's actually a really good question. Cause when we're doing Yu Yu Hakusho, it was just what me, Chris, Laura Bailey, and like a few others. There's like five of us.
01:03:25
Speaker
And we had to record our lines by ourselves as well, dub them and like kind of edit them. So like, here's how every session went. I would watch the scene to make sure I'm screaming spirit gun correctly. Cause I only had one monitor at the time. So here's how it'd go. You know, I watched the scene, I get it down in my head, then I press record, run into the studio, run back out, turn off the record button and see if it aligned. So that's how you would do it, right? So and after that, I was like, yeah, that was a really good and funny question. What's your name, man? And I'm like, my name's Ollie. Oh, Ollie, lovely to meet you. Yeah. Awesome question, man. My girlfriend could tell I was just like, yeah, for my name in my head I was like so quiet and I'm like you know and you know my girlfriend knows she's like by the way you're the only one he asked that question to you're the only one he asked what's your name and I'm like oh my god he picked me in my head
01:04:09
Speaker
Yeah, such a cool dude, though. Honestly, I really like Justin Cook. Justin, if you're listening to this episode, you're looking at the future. I don't know. you super so like If you end up recording me for some gig, hell yeah. Because it's more on the directing side nowadays, right? So that's the thing. Yeah, that was a very big Senpai notice me moment. Have you ever had any know ah moments like that for the podcasting side of things,
Recognition in Podcasting and Memorable Interactions
01:04:31
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Satsu?
01:04:31
Speaker
Yes and no, but it's mainly been through Twitter interactions. I remember my friends Adam and I weeded an episode on the game Deadly Premonition which is probably the worst game that I love. oh no it's as silly as it sounds. It's like a homage to Twin Peaks, as it were, but the graphics are terrible. The whole story is just absolutely back. You know what I'm saying? But I love it because my friend and I played it together pretty COVID. We played it together. We visited one another. Honestly, it's one that's very near India to my heart. So we did an episode for a
01:05:10
Speaker
remember what number it was, but we did it for season one, and after we did it, we put it out. The creator, Sweaty65, I think his name is. Sweaty65, he actually liked the tweet and everything. I don't even listen to the episode, to be quite honest, but still, it was that moment, I was like, oh my god, I noticed. Oh god, that's cute. I know that feeling so well. I mean, there have been a couple of instances where it's been, you know, celebrities that have liked a particular tweet, And I'm like, Oh my God, I'm famous though. I've made it guys. That's it. I'm retiring pretty much. I mean, I can't remember what other ones there were. I mean, there'll be a couple. I remember but Mark Hamill like to tweet out of your Mark. Oh yeah. Yeah. I remember that. You're going off. Yeah. I just remember like, Oh, it's like Skywalker.
01:05:55
Speaker
He likes me, he knows me! Did he follow me after that or like any other tweets? Nope. Neither is obviously forced to do so. No pun intended. it But yeah, no, it was still cool. Still cool getting noticed. I mean, there's been one or two people In fact, one that I was actually really happy at was when my friend Andrew and I did an episode on Anime A Bridge series, we were talking about just a variety of them. and The main ones, of course, were Little Caribou and Nuyu A Bridge, Team Four Star with Dragonball A Bridge, and Something Litty from the Sword Art Online A Bridge series. and I remember tagging them, and the only person that actually liked it and commented underneath it was Something Litty Entertainment. which I thought was so cool. And I can't remember what it was I said in the tweet, but they got back to me and said something like, jokingly, they said, oh, you're just like asking this voice actress because she's Scottish. And I'm sitting there going, she's one of you. She's not Scottish, is she? says And then I looked it up and I'm like, oh my God. so i couldn't but believe up to amazing dude that is amazing i remember you telling me that was like what
01:07:05
Speaker
after met there's been some amazing moments i mean the only other one i can think of and it's not as grand scale but i remember there was like youtuber and i don't enjoy enough the day of recording this episode my episode with this youtuber just had
Guest Booking Challenges and Successes
01:07:20
Speaker
it. was an interview with someone called mayor kaki who's a uk based streamer and she does some absolutely and incredible video essays on games, TV series, that kind of thing. And I remember seeing her follow count and everything and as stupid it as it sounds because she's a lovely person, but I kept thinking, oh, this person is way too big to want to deal with a podcast my size and everything. I mean, I just shot my shot with a lot of them and most of the time, a lot of them, as I was saying before, they don't get back to you or they just say, ah, no, I'm not interested. And that is 100% perfectly fine, no problem at all. But when she came back and she was like, oh, yeah, sure, I love podcasts. I'd love to come on.
Advice for Creatives
01:08:04
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I was like, wait, what? Oh, I prepare this far. I didn't think I'd get this far.
01:08:13
Speaker
like guess but would see you you know i'm ready do to type up the thanks for yourre tiny email and i' like oh okay honestly it's just it's tasks even when you get a response like that and as it like great episodes but yeah no i always love that when you get recognition from the people that you critiquing things that they've either created things they've acted and they have voiced them and so on and so forth there may be one or two people that i'm trying to get on and i'm like I'm ready to the thanks for your time email. line before I can confirm it, but it would be absolutely awesome if they came on. The big one I remember for Mass Effect Month, my friends kept saying, oh, do you know who you should ask? You should ask that Mark Meard and Jennifer Hale would, because they're the main voices, of course, for male and female Shepard. And I'm like,
01:09:03
Speaker
I am not at that level. I mean, again, this goes back to the whole thing you were talking about of you have to put yourself out there. And this is something that, and again, Martin, if you've stuck around for this long, invisible my friend, Martin McAllister, who is an amazing Scottish wrestler, and that is always his advice. He always says, you know, that you have to put yourself out there, you have to take those chances, because I mean, the worst thing they can say is no, or they don't say anything to you. And I'm like, OK,
01:09:30
Speaker
And that's the thing though, if they say no, you just move on, rather than certain people who just say, ooh, why don't you say yes or no? Why don't they say yes or no? And then do something about it on the internet, I don't know. Yeah, exactly. And that's the thing, you just have to keep going with it. And it's
Guest's Progress and Exciting Projects
01:09:44
Speaker
what you gotta do. Exactly. You don't know where it's gonna land, really. And yeah. Honestly, it's going to be fantastic, especially for yourself, though, because I mean, I've seen your... And again, I mean this in the least creepy way possible. I don't mean to be like a Sith Lord in the background with the cloak, being like, I'll watch your progress with great curiosity. Are you Palpatine? Blowfish, I've watched your progress with great curiosity. Something like that. Good. You ever heard the tragedy of Darth Satsu the One? Now we need to make that a fan art, just like the red panda talking to the blowfish.
01:10:18
Speaker
the wolfish is just like martin heavily That needs to happen. That has to be the fan art for this now. That's the one. From a certain point of view, I am the Senate. So anyway, if you want to listen to our full dub of Revenge of the Sith, you can check this out. I mean, that would be cool, but like whenever I get to the point where I have to do Darth Vader, I'm just going to pitch my voice so low and make it sound super robotic.
01:10:48
Speaker
Rest in peace, James Earl Jones, by the way. Such a good voice actor. But I mean, in all seriousness, and I feel as if this is the perfect note to end the episode on, but honestly, I've seen you start out as a Twitch streamer. You began with the various visual novels, as you were saying, double with them. Fantastic work. And then it was clear from the offset, obviously, that you were just so passionate about this particular field that you wanted to be a voice actor and you've only just gotten better. Thanks, man But I'm not just saying that because your PayPal donations just cleared. yeah Oh, fantastic. Okay, that explains the phone notification, got it. But in all seriousness, you know, you've gotten better over the years. Not that you were bad to begin with, but you have become more comfortable with it. And every time I drop into your streams, you know, you're having so much fun with that as well. It's just, it's honestly such a delight to see. And when you message about your Fortnite cameo and everything, and, you know, oh, you were doing stuff for Genshin and whatnot, I was like,
01:11:44
Speaker
my God, you are absolutely killing that. You are so, I genuinely, I cannot wait to see what you're doing. Thanks, dude. Seriously. I just got to keep going up from here, man. I just got to build that momentum. And it was just so funny getting into that Genshin audio book, just cause my girlfriend was over at the time and I got an email for them and I'm like thinking, ah, it's probably them saying, Hey, you were good, but sorry. And it said, Hey, we'd like to offer you position in this audio book. And I'm like, I beg your pardon. I was like, Hey, and I got my girlfriend to read it. And I'm like, is this real sweetie? And she's like, it is. It's real! And I got so hyped, you know what I mean? Because we're in our fans of Genshin. That's the thing, right?
Reflecting on Podcasting Connection
01:12:18
Speaker
But anyway, thank you again, dude, for having me on. I'm so glad we finally got to do this. Honestly, it's been such a pleasure having you on. And again, on the yearly I mean, give a day or two the fourth anniversary since the very first Dreamer Spotlight that I ever did, and it was of course with your amazing self. So first of all, thank you for coming on for that especially. And if you are morbidly curious at home and you want to hear the difference between that interview and this interview, please feel free to compare and contrast because you probably listened to me going, my god, he was bad. I really want to see that. I was like, now I really want to do this now.
01:12:58
Speaker
I mean, that might be a good stream idea, to be honest. Yeah, it would be a fun little collab, be like, if you got him in, it's like, yo, Sotzi, let's listen to us and be like, oh, God. We could listen to the JoJo episodes, like, oh, dear God, we were just all over the place, you know? After season one, definite with the podcast, got a lot more structured. I knew what I was doing. I think it was only 50 episodes, but still. 50 episodes later. there Yeah, it's actually amazing how it went on for so long. And then, of course, the only reason we do 50 episodes a season is because my friends couldn't commit to doing the live shows. And they was like, oh, well, we could either do it off stream or we're going to have to move the days around. So I was like, you know what, this is probably like a very natural stopping point for the podcast, at least for season one. And then we can come back next year, better, stronger or not next year. I think it was like a couple of days later. like
01:13:53
Speaker
I always record for that. But no, it's been an absolutely amazing experience and yeah, honestly, it's been amazing getting to know you over the years as well. Dude, likewise, you as well, man. Because without podcasting, without streaming, I definitely never would have made amazing people
Where to Find the Guest
01:14:08
Speaker
such as yourself. So once again, Blowfish, thank you so, so much for coming on tonight and yeah, talking about all things VA work, streaming and yeah, general content creation. Of course, man. And like, yeah, if you ever want me on again, I will make time for you, like seriously speaking. No, you're always welcome. Thank you. I don't even know what to call it. And I don't actually have physical cards. But whatever for the podcast equivalent is of, you're like a gold card, whereas like any time you want to come on an episode, do you have an idea. Sounds like a get out of jail free card, but for this podcast.
01:14:40
Speaker
like more suddenest start like Oh, if you ever want to do an episode, then yeah, you're more than welcome to come back. Gotcha. You've got the loyalty card. That's what I mean. there ah Loyalty card. Oh, okay. All right. I mean, I think I need to pay you through PayPal as well for that. Give me one second.
01:15:00
Speaker
ah So before we wrap up and I check the payments gone through, where can these ah lovely listeners at home find your content? Awesome. Yeah, you guys could find me on twitch dot.tv slash b blowfishman.tv. All one word, by the way, no underscores or numbers or dashes. We're mainly sticking to a streaming schedule of Mondays and Fridays at around, for all the European folks, 7 PM your time. I usually go up until about 10 PM your time. Or sometimes if I'm close to finishing a game or if I'm really enjoying it, I'll go out for another hour, maybe 11 PM. Sometimes I do stream on Wednesdays. I decided to make Wednesdays a bit more of a flexibility day, just because I'm more focused on voice acting stuff and putting more additions out there. So if I feel like jumping on, I'll jump on. I think that's the equivalent of what, 2 a.m. your guys' time, which is crazy. But yeah, for all those American listeners or anyone in the North American time zones, EST mainly, it's 2 p.m. for both Mondays and Fridays and Wednesdays 9 p.m.
01:15:49
Speaker
And, of course, I have a YouTube, Twitter, what have you, all under the same name, Bloofishmentvi, TikTok, Instagram, if you want to get to know me personally. I just mainly send very cute reels to my girlfriend over there, if I'll be honest, and post about stuff on my story once in a while. but yeah You'll mainly find me on Twitch.
Episode Conclusion and Holiday Wishes
01:16:03
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if you want to catch more episodes from our ourselves as well as as we were saying the jojo subsidies which again was such a good so pseudo first subsidedies that i started and yeah we really do need to rewaartch park six and get that completed for
01:16:20
Speaker
the film say but Yeah, if you want to catch more episodes from ourselves, as well as our old interview, then you can indeed catch us on the website, chattsunami.com, as well as all the podcasts and apps. I also want to thank my very amazing Pandalorian patrons, Robotic BattleToaster, Sonya and Ghosty. Thank you so, so much for supporting the show. But yeah, if you would like early access, exclusive content, blowfishes, impressions of Emperor Palpatine behind a paywall. Good.
01:16:49
Speaker
Good. For legal reasons that's a joke, I just want to specify for the last part. Of course then that you can indeed catch us on the Patreon page patreon dot.com over slash chat tsunami. This podcast of course is a proud member of the Podpack Collective for more information. Please check us out our twitter slash x handle Podpack Collect. Until next time thank you all so so much for listening and as I said before we are a couple of days away from Christmas, so if we don't see you before then stay safe, stay awesome and most importantly have a very Merry Christmas. Bye! Welcome to Chatsunami, a variety podcast that discusses topics from gaming and films to anime in general interest. Previously on Chatsunami, we've analysed what makes a good horror game, conducted a retrospective on Pierce Brosnan's runs James Bond and listened to us take deep dives into both the Sonic and Halo franchises. Also, if you're an anime fan, then don't forget to check us out on our sub-series, Chatsunani, where we dive into the world of anime. So far, we've reviewed things like Death Note, Princess Mononoke, and the hit Beyblade series. If that sounds like your cup of tea, then you can check us out on Spotify, iTunes, and all big podcast apps. As always, stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated.