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Streamer Spotlight: TheBlurryShow
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In this episode, Satsunami interviews his friend and fellow streamer TheBlurryShow. From streaming experiences to photography, the duo discuss the highs and lows of their own streaming experiences.
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Transcript
Introduction to Special Episode
00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:17
Speaker
Hello everyone and welcome to a very special episode of Chat Tsunami. I'm Sat Tsunami and today I'm joined by a very good... I'm getting the compliments out of the way first. A very good streamer. A really awesome person. The one and only, of course, Alex Bloody. Alex, thank you so much for coming on Chat Tsunami today. Thank you very much.
00:00:40
Speaker
i really appreciate that you know when you when you were saying that when you're introducing me said you're joined by a very good stream and you stopped like i expect you to go i can't say this i can't just lie straight away i'm joined by a streamer technically a streamer it's like cut cut can we cut that please yeah
00:01:00
Speaker
but it's fantastic to be here thank you very much i've been looking forward to coming on to your uh podcast for for ages for so long yeah it's honestly been long overdue i kept saying to you oh do you want to come on and you kept saying yeah yeah yeah and i was just like dangling the carrot like are you sure you want to come on here are you sure it's like i was like yeah
00:01:19
Speaker
Yeah, I just needed to get my act together.
Introducing Alex Blurry: First Streamer Guest of 2021
00:01:22
Speaker
Because actually I was looking through my backlog of the ones that I've already done with other streamers. So far I've interviewed Blowfish Man TV and Stubborn Zombie. Again, two really lovely people and amazing streamers as well. And yeah, you're the first streamer that I've talked to on Chatsunami for 2021. So yeah, kicking it off strong. Thank you very much.
00:01:46
Speaker
I feel as if I put a little bit of pressure there on you to be like, it's like, yeah, you're the first person. Don't mess this up. Don't. Yeah. My heart is fluttering. My hands are shaking. And my voice is getting crackly. I don't want to be on. I'll do my best to be good. Yeah. No, you're doing fine.
00:02:08
Speaker
you're doing better than me. I was gonna say and I'm the one who's here every week so you're doing better than me.
How Alex and Sat Tsunami Connected on Twitch
00:02:15
Speaker
I was actually just trying to think like how we actually bumped into each other on Twitch because this is something that I think about when like I visit other people's streams or I'm talking to them you know it's like you're talking to people and you've been talking to them for ages and you know getting friendly and then you think wait how did this all start?
00:02:35
Speaker
And I think with us, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm probably going to say like one thing and you'll be like, well, actually, I'm sure it was a raid from Naff. I would imagine so. Yes. It must have been. I can't remember if you were playing, were you playing Pokemon at the time? I would have been.
00:02:54
Speaker
I was trying to do some sort of Pokemon Nuzlocke and Naff had raided me. It was like one of my first few streams, actually. And Naff, at the time, he, like, I didn't know who he was. At the time, he was doing this thing where he was raiding just random small streamers at the end of all of his streams. So he popped into mine and I got a little boost of followers that, like, I stuck around. People that I would just consider friends now.
00:03:23
Speaker
Yeah. Which is really cool and I'd say it came from that because there was like a bit of back and forth then between me and NAF. So yeah, I think if you're linked in with NAF then that makes sense.
00:03:33
Speaker
Yeah because funny enough I feel as if like Pokemon and by extension playing Pokemon games on Twitch is like a kind of unifying like glue to attract like different streamers together because it was my friend Green Shield and I it was a couple of months ago I think it was when I was kind of early on into streaming we were playing a Pokemon Emerald Nuzlocke and I think just by chance like Nuff was kind of like
00:03:59
Speaker
you know bouncing from stream to stream and he came in and then of course I like popped into his stream like I think the next day when he started streaming. It's like this weird rabbit hole that like someone pops into your stream and then you think oh I'll check out their channel and then you check out their channel and then they raid someone else and yeah this is why we're here today.
00:04:19
Speaker
Because I wonder one read too many. Yeah, well, yeah, it's one too many. These are the origin stories. Yeah, I guess that's the thing, especially with all the Pokemon streamers. I wouldn't call myself a Pokemon streamer. I just do whatever, you know, it's just whatever kind of pops into my head at the time. But it is a game that I keep going back to. But the thing with the least certainly our group of Pokemon streamers that we seem to be all connected with, we're all just a little bit weird. And that's quite nice. Yeah, it's
00:04:48
Speaker
But, you know, it's not your typical streamer. It's more of like someone who's, I don't know, just a little bit meme-y, if that makes sense. You know, people who are not taking themselves seriously at all and really able to make like kind of just a joke out of themselves. And it's all a similar sense of humor that seems to be traveling across our little
The Evolution of Alex's Twitch Handle
00:05:07
Speaker
group.
00:05:07
Speaker
it is quite nice when you kind of click with people who have like the same kind of humor like especially with streaming as well it's like that kind of like i mean have you ever felt that way when you're kind of flicking through different streamers and there's like some that you might not click with and then there's like somewhere you're watching them and you think yeah they're getting the full kind of absolutely i think i know almost instantly yeah you just you can just tell you it's usually you just get the the energy from them or something like that
00:05:36
Speaker
it's a good origin story at least to bring up later on to be like yeah no they were playing pokemon or they were playing whatever yeah so it's always good something i was quite curious about because of course your handle on twitch is alexblurry of course it is but i feel kind of like privileged in a way to know like what your handle was before that bloody negative before the accident
00:06:05
Speaker
before the witness protection. Yes. You've just put it out there. I have to change my name again. I do. I mean, it rhymes with, um, sh- sh- sh- sh- negative. It's like, um, oh god, oh god. Like, where's the end stream button?
00:06:25
Speaker
No, yes, you're wondering where that name came from, the original name. Yeah. So Blurry Negative is the name that I use for my YouTube channel. And like a year or two ago, I started a YouTube channel, suppose it's a year or two now, got locked down kind of a whole year has passed and you can't really even count that as a year. So it kind of just feels like it was a year ago. But if we count locked down, yeah, two years ago.
00:06:47
Speaker
So it started a YouTube channel where I was going around just different places in Ireland taking photographs with analogue cameras, so the old film cameras that would use 35mm film, the kind that you have to get developed. It's very, very hipster, but it's like one of my, it's my biggest passion. I just absolutely love that retro photography.
00:07:06
Speaker
I have a good collection of old film cameras that I have. So what I would do is I would pick one of them and I'd make a video about that or kind of just use that to make a video about a certain place I was going to or a new type of film that I was using. So all the cool kids in the analog community have really cool names. So like one guy that I really like, he's the best analog photography YouTuber out there. His name is Grainy Days, which is really good because Grain is a part of film photography.
00:07:35
Speaker
that's what we talk about like you love that grain there's certain types of 35 millimeter film that have like just really fine beautiful grain i don't know if i can describe it well if i say most people know what i'm talking about oh yeah so um yeah there's like people like him um they all have these really cool names it's like i need a cool name i need a
00:07:53
Speaker
and a name other than just my own, that would be good for a YouTube channel. It was like, okay, so what is a photograph called when you get it developed? So those are your negatives. It's like, okay, I like that negative is in it. And I think it kind of contrasts well, because I'm generally a very, very positive person. So I thought that might be a bit funny. And I'm not a very good photographer. So a lot of the photos end up coming out blurry.
00:08:14
Speaker
so I was like oh you know how about I go with blurry negative and I thought that was very clever and all that and not super catchy actually but that's because negative is a massive word it's like it's too long to be typing so that's where that came from and when I started twitch I decided to just go with that name and kind of link
00:08:32
Speaker
the youtube and twitch together even though they're so not related to each other at all my twitch content is couldn't be any further from what i was doing on youtube so um after a while of streaming as blurry negative i was like i i don't like this i don't like that people are calling me blurry negative it doesn't feel
00:08:49
Speaker
good I was like I really want to just put my own name in there and rather than using my own actual surname I was like okay I'll keep the blurry part of it because I think at that point I'd already reached affiliate so it's like okay I've got I've got a few people who are interested in watching me if I keep the blurry part they won't be like who is this person we're following now they'll kind of it's still click with them that oh it's that guy you know when they when they click on it or see in their side view so yeah I just went with Alex Blurry and I like it I don't feel like changing it up too much
00:09:19
Speaker
so far i think it's okay right now um but yeah well i guess that's kind of like one of the reasons i would never get a tattoo is that i change my mind so often so even though i say i like it right now i think in a week or two i could be a different person altogether
00:09:35
Speaker
you're amongst friends here, it's okay. You're talking to one of the most indecisive people like probably in the UK. So, no definitely. Well then I'm your Irish representative of indecisiveness. All we need now is an English and a Welsh streamer indecisive. Man, they've got a good joke going, that's all you got.
00:09:56
Speaker
Yeah, we got a great knock-knock joke going Yeah, an Irish streamer a Welsh streamer and a Scottish streamer walk into
Streaming Challenges and Equipment Mishaps
00:10:05
Speaker
Twitch. Yeah
00:10:06
Speaker
Sato, I am really hoping you'll finish this joke for me because I'm stuck at the moment. So you were saying about... No, I'm kidding. I was like, oh, God. I was like, yo, what? I'm going to write it down. I'm going to put it to the side and it'll be like years later. I'll be like, Alex, I've got it. It's like, what? I've got the punchline. Who are you? What's the twitch? Just me in a rocking chair at age 35.
00:10:36
Speaker
Well, Twitch does aid you, I have to admit. Like, especially when you get those moments when you think you're not, or when you think you're alive and you're not actually, and you look down and you're like, have I just been, like, singing off-key to the world? I'm like, oh, thank God, no.
00:10:52
Speaker
oh my god there's so many times where i've hit like go live and i'll just i'll sort of sit back and i'll do things like this and i apologize to everyone listening i'll be like like a bit too in my throat and stuff like yeah and dig big breaths into the mic and i'm like oh wait is my mic on
00:11:12
Speaker
it's weird because I used to have this like USB mic which it was a really good mic but then I thought I kind of really have to upgrade it and it's weird because it only has like a dial on it to like turn up the kind of input for it and like usually I would just like turn it down and then that would be it muted whereas for the new mic I've got like absolute love it but for this one it's like when you press the mute button it doesn't always respond for the first time. What mic have you got?
00:11:41
Speaker
Um it's a oh god um i'll actually have to look up the name i'll look at i'll just as we're kind of talking because it's like one of these like long gx points or something
00:11:55
Speaker
It's like, I could- Are you using a graphics card by any chance? I could be. Oh no, sorry. It's a trust gaming GTX 256. I mean, that is like a mouthful in itself. What a naming system. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I should have gone for, you know, Blue Yeti, you know, and Elgato. No, no, I had to be fancy and pick it up during Black Friday. Oh, look at me.
00:12:19
Speaker
mean it was, it was a lot cheaper than like shelling out for, not overly like cheaper but like compared to like blue yetis and things and see that's the thing I don't know if you've ever noticed this, see when you're like getting equipment for streaming and you don't know whether, I mean I don't know if it's the same for like photography but it's like you don't know whether the things that they're reviewing is actually bad or it's bad because they're
00:12:45
Speaker
you know like for instance like if someone's getting a microphone for like streaming or something but then you get people who are like really into music and they're saying oh this microphone's terrible because it doesn't pick up like I don't know like their background noise or something like that you're like really kind of picky details and you're like I just want to stream
00:13:10
Speaker
Here's like my little input on the whole microphone thing so I do own a Blue Yeti I got it years ago and I got it years ago for music and it was quite affordable and the Blue Yeti's they actually look quite nice they're a cool looking microphone
00:13:24
Speaker
I don't know 1940s 50s sort of vibe to it but um they aren't fantastic because they do pick up ambient noise they'll pick up like the entire room uh which isn't great you know because you don't want creaky doors and stuff no it doesn't really matter you know it is still it's good sound quality and stuff but then um for the music stuff that i had been doing for years and years
00:13:45
Speaker
I got the SM58, which is just your classic microphone. You will see all the singers just using this microphone. You'll have it in their hand. You know the one. You look it up, you'll see what it is. It's fantastic. The sound quality out of this microphone, in my opinion, I hope it sounds good for everyone else, is pretty good. But the problem is, I have to be right up close to it. So if I was a meter away from the microphone, you wouldn't hear me at all. I'd have to have my gain so high. So that's kind of the trade-off. Really good mic. Gotta have your face right up in that bad boy.
00:14:15
Speaker
But with the other mics you can just kind of chill and stuff to get the sound from the entire room and with that is the pros and cons and stuff. That's my little mic input anyway.
00:14:24
Speaker
I mean, it's better than mine, I just looked at it and looked at the reviews and thought, okay, this looks good. Like, that's fine, that is good, yeah. Because it is, it's like that kind of, it's going back to that indecisiveness, you're looking at it thinking, I'm gonna make a big mistake buying this mic, aren't I? And I'm like, no, no. And then, you know, it's like back and forth all night. And then by the time you realize you could have got it like the next day, but because you waited so long, you're like, I guess I'm gonna have to wait another day to get it. And she's like, oh.
00:14:52
Speaker
the absolute worst thing that a person can do is hold off on streaming or doing something that they want because they're waiting to get that one good bit of equipment. Like, oh, I can't do this because I don't have a good enough camera or I can't do this because I don't have a good enough microwave, a good enough computer or something. And I understand that because I feel that all of the time. But the truth is, just get in there, just do your thing. No one is going to even notice because you are like your harshest critic. You're the one that will pick up on like
00:15:20
Speaker
I didn't quite like the sound quality there. Oh, my video quality could be slightly better. Other people, they don't really care about that sort of thing. I had that for a while. It was just in my head and it was like holding me back. I was like, I can't start streaming because my background looks awful or, you know, that type of thing. Now, you know, much more relaxed with that sort of thing. I can have the most disgusting background and I wouldn't really mind right now. But yeah, did you ever find that yourself? Did you ever have that sort of situation where you held off on something because you were waiting or you felt like your equipment wasn't good enough?
00:15:49
Speaker
Oh, 110%. Like, seeing terms of streaming, I remember my very first streams were, weirdly enough, because I know we were talking about this earlier. So basically I'd got this version of Pokemon Green that was like really poorly translated because it's like Pokemon Green was like one of these ones that was only released in Japan. So someone had like got their hands on this and tried to translate it. It was like a really awful translation and
00:16:15
Speaker
in a way it was like for the kind of comedy factor as well and being like oh this is a game I really want to do so between that like having the game and then saying thinking oh right now I want to stream because one of my friends was like oh you should try it and I had this old so it was this computer that my friend was throwing out and it was like here you can use it it was good for like playing games on but see when it came to streaming
00:16:39
Speaker
it was like a Russian roulette. I was using OBS and it kept crashing like you would never know if I'm honest it's like sometimes you'd be playing it and you'd be playing it for like a good full hour and you would get like a really good scent out of it and then other times it would last for 20 minutes like
00:16:57
Speaker
I do have, I mean technically I do have like the old streams like uploaded onto my YouTube channel kind of just to I don't like go back nostalgically and be like oh I miss those times because I genuinely don't. But it was like it was getting so bad that like because I did I had this perception that you know you've seen like you know the kind of high profile streamers where they've got like cool transitions and they've got the cool overlay and things like that. Oh man I'm so
Transitioning from YouTube to Twitch During Lockdown
00:17:24
Speaker
jealous.
00:17:24
Speaker
like it really got me down because I was like well if I can't stream you know on the computer then what's the point and I learned then that you could stream like directly through you know like your consoles like the PlayStation the Xbox and things like that and
00:17:39
Speaker
in a way I was kind of like oh but I can't have an overlay it won't look fancy and see at the end of the day like see some of the streams that I did through my console they're like some of the best streams I feel personally like I've ever done the only reason I say that is because like when I was starting off and
00:17:58
Speaker
I don't know if you've felt like this before, but it was like, it was only my friends initially who were coming into the stream to support me. And honestly, I could honestly spend a whole lot of our discussion about them. How amazing. They've been like support-wise for streaming. But I've always wondered what it's like to have friends. Keep going.
00:18:17
Speaker
yeah then I took off the VR glasses and then I cried myself. Anyway so it was usually the same people and like I always got quite it sounds like really selfish I don't want it to come across as if I wasn't grateful but like I felt as if I was kind of plateauing you know like I wasn't growing and I thought oh is it because you know it's my overlay is it because of this and you know there was like a time where I was like
00:18:46
Speaker
I was like that close to kind of chucking it just completely. There was one stream I did and it was, I think it was like Sonic Adventure of all things and it was like this guy had came in like so it's another streamer called MTRZ Gaming. He had came in and he just randomly like kind of chilled out in the stream
00:19:09
Speaker
and then like at the end of it he was like, oh by the way I left you a follow and you know I did the whole, oh thank you, you know, much appreciated and so on. Oh no problem, I really enjoyed your stream. It was kind of that moment that, you know, it's like you realize, you kind of think, hold on a minute, it doesn't really matter. Like you know, as you were saying you don't have to have like the fanciest graphics or the best overlay, it's like what
00:19:33
Speaker
you're bringing to it. Exactly. That's the main thing and you know I completely agree with you. I think honestly CE even to begin with like I genuinely wish that I'd like stream more on like the Xbox because now I've got a PC and everything that can run everything which is good but back then I definitely think it would have been like better if I just said screw it let's you know do more streams.
00:19:56
Speaker
Yeah to do that because yeah you're right it's that hesitation. That actually brings me on to like one of the other questions I'm quite curious about. How did you actually get into streaming then? Like what was your kind of like how did you go from and I assume you still like do photography and things but
00:20:13
Speaker
That is the thing. So I was super into the YouTube thing. The goal, like chugging along there to get to the point of actually making money out of YouTube. And it's going quite well, especially with such a niche type of content that I was doing. Like it's analog photography. The people who are into analog photography are usually, you know, they're the older crowd, right?
00:20:36
Speaker
Whereas I was making these videos that had, well, my sense of humor in it, which it's not quite zoomer humor, but it's not boomer humor either. It's the millennial humor. It's there in the middle. I'm the Goldilocks for our age group. And I was making these videos and it was going quite well. And then what happens? Boom. Lockdown happens.
00:20:55
Speaker
And here in Ireland, lockdown has been like super, super severe. We've had three major lockdowns and we're currently still in one of them. So at the moment, I cannot go five kilometres from my home unless it's for an essential reason, such as work or to do like grocery shopping.
00:21:13
Speaker
all of my youtube videos were all based around heading out to the mountains or into forests and stuff like that to do nature photography with the analog photography thing so it really put a halt to that i tried making one or two videos basically in my bedroom just
00:21:29
Speaker
talking about a camera and looking at other videos and stuff and they're kind of doing commentary stuff on other photographers and stuff like that. It didn't work. I even privated some of those videos because I was just not proud of them. Like a few days afterwards, I looked back and I was like, this isn't good enough. It doesn't match up with what I was doing previously. I can't. I can't. I'm not happy with it. So I just like privated those videos. Didn't delete them. I think they're just privated. So it's like I need to do something. I need to do something that
00:21:55
Speaker
gets that kind of creative buzzer or that need for like attention just that kind of little itch of attention seeking that all of the streamers have and like we all do i'm going to say we all have a little bit of that otherwise we would not be doing this type of thing right oh no different so
00:22:16
Speaker
And for years and years, I've been watching, not watching streamers, but I've been watching people do stuff on YouTube for years and years, like playing games and stuff like that. So I would even watch their VODs uploaded on YouTube, like the full things. And I was like, OK, well, let me have a look at Twitch properly. And I watched a couple of streams on Twitch and I was like, I really want to do this. I want to sit down, turn the camera on and just talk nonsense.
00:22:42
Speaker
into a microphone for people who are as weird as me on the internet. And that is just kind of where it started. Like literally, I don't know how long ago that was now. Maybe I've been streaming for maybe six months. So maybe half a year ago, five or six months.
00:22:58
Speaker
And yeah, yeah, I just love it. I love it. If I could stream every day, I would. Would you say that you would like if you got the opportunity that you would do it as like a full time thing? Oh yeah, absolutely. And I even I enjoy this more than I did the YouTube stuff with
00:23:13
Speaker
YouTube, it's completely different. You go out, you plan a day to shoot, you write a script for what you're going to say, what you're going to talk about. You do a lot of research into what you're doing, and then you come home and you offload all of those files. You got to charge up the cameras again. You got to do this, do that, do that. Had to get the photos developed. Then you start into the edit. And for one of my videos, I think I would edit it for a week and a half. I think every video took about a week and a half of editing.
00:23:40
Speaker
sort of piece it together I don't know like a bit of a jigsaw at the start you go okay I'm gonna put this here and it's gonna here and just boop boop boop boop boop and then you go back and look at it and go okay so now I need to tighten this up I need to change the audio here I want to add some text in here and it would be a slow thing and you'd need to take a break from it then look at it again and then with fresh eyes you'd go no I didn't like that first bit delete that and get rid of this and
00:24:03
Speaker
It's quite a hard thing to do because you do feel like every shot that you've taken is a personal little baby to you. And it feels weird to be deleting it. But you're like, I can't make a video that's 20 minutes long. It's going to be boring and cohesive. It needs to be shrunk down and compressed into something more bite size for the eyes. And it's a lot of work, but then on Twitch.
00:24:24
Speaker
you just kind of you just go for it. Now there's still research and stuff that you can put in behind whatever you're doing and you know you need to plan for your streams but it feels a little it's a little more relaxed even though it's live and live is kind of dangerous at all times it does still feel a little bit more relaxed it's almost a behind the scenes type of feeling compared to producing a full video for a site like YouTube.
00:24:49
Speaker
And it is, it's like a lot more natural, I suppose. I know people, there are like streamers out there who kind of build like their own persona, but yeah, it's like being able to just turn on the mic and just kind of being able to share. Because I know exactly what you mean. I'm kind of getting flashbacks to like me during the start of lockdown thinking, oh god, I did something very, well, not like photography. Like I'm not as bad as you know, the kind of people that cut people's heads off in photos.
00:25:17
Speaker
but i'm not that level yet but you know give me a few years i'll probably be that level but remember the start of lockdown because it seems to be like a common theme for a lot of like people i've been talking to a lot of people do kind of start off streaming like because of the lockdown and i remember for myself like i don't know if i've ever told you like i'm like really into languages and things and kind of like learning that
00:25:45
Speaker
I was terrible at French, I'm just going to put that on the record. I did it in school, was terrible, but still, God loves a trier. And so I was really into that. And I remember like 2020 was one of those like, it began like really poorly for me.
00:26:02
Speaker
And it was kind of like, oh god, how could it get any worse? And then boom, pandemic, lockdown, you know, the world's ending, everything's on fire. So initially for the first few weeks, it was kind of, I mean, I still am working from home, but it was kind of like, what could I do with my time other than, you know, watching Netflix and things? And I've always wanted to do content creation. So initially I'd started with the language channel.
00:26:26
Speaker
and like doing like a couple of videos on that. It's weird because it's like what you were saying, it's like you make this video, you write the script, you edit everything together, you try to make it engaging and interesting and I think I made about two or three videos but yeah just after that I was kind of sitting there thinking I mean they're okay.
00:26:48
Speaker
It's like, you know that way when it's like you're finishing off a project, whether it be like for school, uni, whatever, and you're just like, yeah, I just want this finished now. And then when you upload it, you're kind of like, I mean, it's okay. So I was kind of like wondering what I could have done. And then it was one of my friends who was like,
00:27:05
Speaker
why don't you try twitch because he was trying it he was just streaming like directly from his playstation so i was like checking him out and thinking i wonder if i should do this like being really nervous and be like i don't know if i could put myself out there because like i don't know about you but like when i heard about twitch like i was never really into twitch before i got into it i honestly thought it was just like
Community Positivity on Twitch: Overcoming Preconceptions
00:27:28
Speaker
you know when you went into youtube and you got all the compilation videos that kept popping up and it was like
00:27:33
Speaker
top 10 you know twitch people who have made an ass of themselves on camera and things like that or you get like other people shaking their fists saying oh I can't believe people pee you know to watch someone sitting down the chair and all of this. But it was like that perception before like you know getting into twitch where I was like oh I don't know about this but like once I got into it like I fell down the rabbit hole
00:27:57
Speaker
But yeah, honestly, the people I've met on Twitch have just been nothing but really supportive, just really lovely people. Oh, absolutely. I agree with that. Yeah. Like, I mean, what did you think just before you were kind of getting into Twitch? My initial thoughts were I'm going to go live and people are just going to absolutely berate me. I'm going to get the most amount of slagging I'm ever going to get. People are going to pick out every fault that I have. And I was just scared.
00:28:26
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I was just so scared and it's like I can't press this go live button man I can't do it but then I did it and no I have had like nothing overly negative certainly nothing negative directed towards me now I've had problems with people been racist and chat at the very start and had to do like some serious banning and stuff like that but I think everyone gets that I actually think it's surprising that I've not had more of that because I don't know if like twitch certainly hasn't done anything to really combat that too much
00:28:54
Speaker
And so I know I'm just counting my lucky stars and keeping my fingers crossed that that doesn't happen. But in terms of people just been genuinely positive, it's it's crazy. And it does make sense because people click on your stream if they're not interested in what you're doing, they just leave and that's that's fine. And so you do it just in its own way filters out only the people who are going to be nice to you, which is it's a pretty good system, I guess.
00:29:20
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I suppose once you get properly big because you will see it in the massive streamers chats where their chat box is literally just brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
00:29:38
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or being in any sort of media like big people on twitter they're getting serious abuse big people on youtube are getting serious abuse big just celebrities in mainstream media they were the first people to be getting absolutely insane abuse yeah so that was my first thought about going into streaming i was like afraid that i was going to get just have an awful awful time and be like completely disheartened but no it kicked off very very nicely very well so um it's still going that way people are just absolutely amazing like
00:30:07
Speaker
Yeah, you know it yourself. Your chat's amazing. We share a lot of the same people, I think, at this point, and yeah, they're all super nice. Yeah, I'm just like sending them over being like, please go check it out. I get commission. Yeah, I was going to actually bring this up after the chat, but I'm still getting the 10% cut, aren't I? Wait, I pay you to be honest. Wait, then who's paying me? Oh, God.
00:30:34
Speaker
Oh no, right. Okay guys, I'll be back in a second. No, I'm okay. But yeah, I know what you mean though. Like, I haven't had anything overly bad. I've had one or two kind of awkward moments but I kind of either put it down to people who are probably not very well versed in kind of social situations or are just like flat-out children. I remember, I don't know, was it?
00:30:58
Speaker
It was like a couple of months ago, I was doing the Fall Guys stream and this is when I was doing it like directly from a Playstation and this person came in the chat saying, oh my gosh, I love Fall Guys, you know, the usual stuff and it was like, oh, great. And then they turned around and put like a YouTube video link into my chat and I was like, and the person was like, oh, I made this video, can you review it, you know, live on your stream? And I was like, first of all, I couldn't anyway, because I was streaming from a Playstation, but then I was kind of like second of all,
00:31:28
Speaker
not really appropriate to be like just spamming your own videos in people's chats and then being like but I kind of like just and I mean my mod said he was just like amazing with kind of you know kind of mitigating it and being like oh you know don't post it here but we've got a discord you know what to say I mean my mods absolutely fantastic I love them yeah just throwing a bit of healthy like mod love in there
00:31:54
Speaker
And I agree. I know what you're talking about. I had a few cheeky Charlies myself who have they do they do the sly things. They're trying to get to go look at their streams. They're trying to mention as much as they possibly can into your chat. And it's like, I don't know how I feel about that. You know, like good for you, man. But you don't need to bring it up every time you type a message.
00:32:13
Speaker
Like here's a question though, have you ever had, probably if you've been playing like Fall Guys or like one of these kind of games, have you ever had someone who asks you if they can join your stream? Yes. Like unsolicited, I mean. Like if you're playing a game and they're just like, oh can I play with you? Like write that instant.
00:32:30
Speaker
Well, now, funny enough, I did that to you. No, that is true, but there is a difference. I'm going to clarify, there is a difference. That was actually our first kind of, I want to say, collaboration. Yeah. Before this, yeah. That kind of collaboration. Yeah, it was like the prelude before.
00:32:48
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but I mean it's like it's different because funny enough I think it was um it was Blowfish Man TV in his group who were looking for another person in one of my like fall guy streams. I think it was just when I was about to end and he was like oh by the way we're playing you know do you want to join us and I was like oh fine you've twisted my arm.
00:33:07
Speaker
It's like the difference there is it's because I've kind of been talking to you and like him and his community and things for a good while. Yeah. And it's like if I kind of know them on like a kind of basis then that's fine like I honestly don't mind if they're like oh can I play or something it's like yeah sure jump on. Because I'm very paranoid like especially when I'm doing something like Among Us I am very paranoid about who I let on the stream.
00:33:32
Speaker
and who I don't. Like if I haven't interacted with them or don't have a kind of gauge for what kind of person they are, like outside a stream, nine times out of ten I'm not gonna invite them on live because I've heard just so many horror stories where it's just like
00:33:48
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you know, like people yelling racial slurs, you know, just actively trolling. And it's especially the same for a game like Fall Guys, which really confuses me because it's like, there's no like communication in it.
00:34:03
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there's no voice chat. You would have to do a party chat or something. So it's like, why would you want to be part of that for some random person's stream, unless the aim is to kind of grab them and mess up their stream or try and sabotage them. But I guess so. Yeah, it's just it's weird. But I mean, I'm very paranoid when it comes to that, just making sure that whoever I'm talking to or collaborating with, I know who they are.
00:34:32
Speaker
I have wanted to play Among Us for the longest time. I have not played Among Us before and that is the very reason I have not played Among Us. I guess I have this problem now where if I'm playing a game I have to stream it. Do you have that sort of feeling that when you're a content creator you're like how do I make every aspect of my life content? I shouldn't do that.
00:34:52
Speaker
So, you know our fellow friend-in-mode put-backs? Also known as said. Yeah, so basically he has been asking me for the longest time to play Dead by Daylight. Oh, you should. Yeah, I've installed it now.
00:35:08
Speaker
I'm like one step closer. I'm a puke bag sleeper agent and actually this whole podcast the whole point was for me to get in here and bring up DVD. Yeah I was going to say this isn't even that podcast this is just a straight up intervention now it's going to pop up and the call would just be like yeah listen listen you gotta play it you gotta play it right now.
00:35:29
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and it's because I didn't know whether or not like it was like cross play like because what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to move away from like console playing and trying to move on to like just like straight on the PC.
Balancing Personal Gaming and Streaming
00:35:42
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Absolutely, me too. I just need to save for a good PC. Like because I've got the like game pass for the Xbox and that's really good because it's also on the computer as well because Microsoft, Microsoft does as
00:35:57
Speaker
like yourself do be computers it do be like that yeah so it's like there's a lot of games that you can get free with the game pass so that's one of like installed and i kept saying that to him i was like oh i really want to play it but i'm not sure if it would be a good game to stream and honestly like every time i go to play a game now i'm just like
00:36:19
Speaker
I could be streaming this. This could be really good content. Absolutely. Do you ever feel, yeah, like do you feel that way? It's like you're playing it and it's hard to kind of detach your like streaming self. For quite a while now, I've been looking at my Switch and I'm like, I kind of just want to curl up in bed and play the Witcher. I have the Witcher 3 on the Switch, the Switcher 3. The only reason I've not picked it up and hopped into bed to play it is because I'm like, well, what if, you know, what if I think it's something funny to say?
00:36:47
Speaker
if I heard of this would be a good thing to stream and I'm like you know I'll just wait and then I'll just stream it someday so you know the truth is I'll probably never play it unfortunately because yeah I do look at it that way I look at every single game that I might want to play with streamer eyes now I'm like oh I could get I could maybe get some money back off this yeah
00:37:09
Speaker
because I'm the same. I don't know if you saw the episode we did of Chatsanami where we were talking about the game Deadly Premonition, which, I mean, we spent, my friend Adam and I, we spent a good two hours talking about how much we loved this game and everything. And after that I kind of just, I wouldn't say inspired, but probably subliminally.
00:37:31
Speaker
messaged into my brain to be like you should buy the sequel before it gets you know spoiled so like I bought it and for the longest time I was like maybe I should stream it and I was like no I'm gonna play it and like I started it but then there was a time where I just stopped and it was just like that like it's not a bad game by any means but it's just like again I kind of keep thinking about would this be good to stream or
00:37:56
Speaker
or, you know, like as you said, like looking at it through this kind of, you know, like streamer lens, I wanna say, TM. By Yours for Christmas now, you know? It's like, yeah, it's trying to detach yourself. And it is a hard thing, but especially in Dead by Daylight, that's what Puke Banks was saying. He said, oh, you do know you don't have to stream like every game you play. And I'm like, but you don't understand. The fans are expecting it.
00:38:26
Speaker
They're my public, they call. I've actually got a question for you though. I know, shocker. What is your opinion of streaming like a long game versus a short game? So for example, I think it was a couple months ago I decided to stream Red Dead Redemption 2.
00:38:46
Speaker
and at the beginning of that it was a good idea but I was like trying to blaze through the story and it's a great game don't get me wrong but see a game to stream and try and get from the beginning to the end oh it's a slog um there was just some bits where I was constantly kind of like oh god I hope everyone's having a good time
00:39:07
Speaker
as I'm standing with a virtual bowl of stew over the fireplace and I couldn't even skip that bit. It was like all these NPCs were kind of partying. It was just like, I just want to continue the story, please let me continue the story. Why aren't
00:39:23
Speaker
Why aren't you continuing? That kind of wore down on me. I thought I finished the game and then there was like an epilogue and I was like, oh my god, this is a cowboy film. The epilogue is fantastic. Oh yeah. I cried at the end of that game. I'm not even gonna lie. I thought that was amazing.
00:39:44
Speaker
oh it's such a good game but i feel as if i've kind of spoiled it by like streaming it because on the one hand i think like i'm glad i did stream it i don't think i've finished it yet actually i think i got to the beginning of the epilogue and then i think i got to part two of the epilogue and then i kind of just stopped i mean it is a good game but it was that kind of like constant worry of are people still kind of entertained by this i totally i totally get that yeah
00:40:11
Speaker
So when you're talking about streaming a long storied game like that or just streaming something short, that is something I have like a severe problem with. Now in my mind, I would like to start and finish a game and have it run over multiple streams and have everyone sort of
00:40:27
Speaker
collective of people been interested in the story and we all kind of get this sort of I don't know this group feeling together doing it but I just can't I seem to get very bored easy and instead of eating like the entire family sized bar of chocolate I just want the box of celebrations and I just want to have oh I want a little bit of a Mars bar and I want a little bit of a Maltesers and I want a little bit of Pokemon today and I want a little bit of Red Dead maybe that day I want to
00:40:56
Speaker
I just want to try loads of little games and littler little bits of games and not have to have that feeling of commitment that I have to have to go on true and finish it because I don't know why it is but just I guess it's recently I just I get just bored with it I think maybe as kids when we got a game that was it we weren't getting a new game for ages right
00:41:15
Speaker
so you just played that game you played it to it from the start to the finish and then you played it again and then you played it again and you probably played it again and then you get a new game and you would do the same thing over and over again whereas now it's like you load up a game and then oh there's a pop-up there's a steam sail and you're like oh okay i'm going to i'll get this
00:41:33
Speaker
Oh, I'll get one of these. And now we're kind of spoiled for choice. And you have a little bit of disposable cash, maybe, especially when games are just like three quid one day or something like that. You know, it just maybe it's just the amount of gaming content that we have out there sort of stops us or stops me, at least from being able to see something through from start to finish.
00:41:52
Speaker
I mean it's that idea as well though that like see when you're kind of skipping through like Twitch and you see like a streamer doing like a certain game and you're like oh that looks like a lot of fun maybe I should try that and then you go to try it and then you're like then you see another streamer like do something else you're like oh that looks good and you're kind of just jumping from like idea to idea and you're like
00:42:14
Speaker
It's like on the one hand logically it's like yeah stick to the one kind of consistent game but then on the other hand it's like it's like yeah no I'm not gonna do that yeah in your opinion what because I know you know no bias here but I know you're a fellow variety streamer so you do like a bit of kind of everything with different like games what is your opinion like do you think it's better to kind of vary it up
00:42:40
Speaker
Or do you think like it is good for some streamers to like stick to the one game? It's whatever you enjoy. I could not imagine playing just one game. The people who do that, they're amazing at what they do. They're like super focused. And let's say just for example, it was like, I don't know, Rocket League or something. They're like super into Rocket League and they're very good at it. And that is their game. That's their jam.
00:43:04
Speaker
I couldn't. That feels like a nightmare to me to play the exact same thing every day. And what happens when suddenly no one is playing that game anymore? It's got to be very hard for those streamers to transition to another game because they're going to start off not very good at that game and their audience, will they follow them over to a brand new game? It's hard to know because a lot of those streamers, they have viewers that are watching them because they're very good at the game.
00:43:29
Speaker
Whereas for me, certainly, and maybe I can include you in this, I don't know, we're not typically good at games.
Strategies for Successful Streaming
00:43:37
Speaker
Maybe the humour comes from what's been slightly bad at games. So yeah, that was great having you on Alex. We're going to finish it there. Thank you so much.
00:43:49
Speaker
No, I totally see what you mean, sorry. Sorry, go on. I think that was my point, I think that was it. What was the question again? No, that's all right. I don't know what you mean, like, about not being a pro player. Definitely, because I do look at some games, and it is weird, it's like, and again, I make so many terrible references, but you know that scene, like, out of Star Wars, where it's like there's always a bigger fish?
00:44:18
Speaker
yes and it's like you'll play a game think I'm really good at this game and then you'll look up like this five-year-old who's like been playing it since birth it's like he's got he's already got like a hundred war zone like you know victories under his belt what the actual hell what's the point
00:44:37
Speaker
Because that is the thing, I think. I have seen a lot of people, whether it be, usually it kind of is FPS focused, after a minute that's one thing I've noticed. It's usually the FPS streamers that kind of play wars on the lot and there is nothing wrong with that. If that's the game you're into or the game you enjoy playing that is perfectly fine too.
00:45:00
Speaker
like stream it as much as you want but it feels as if and this seems to be like the top streamer tip you know that oh if you want to be a good streamer you know like choose a game that and it is weird because this is something I've seen through a lot of variety streamers that have kind of said to me that it is better to choose a game that's not as you know that's kind of less saturated on Twitch
00:45:24
Speaker
like I mean if you go on and you look it's like the top like games are like valorant warzone overwatch you know and it's funny because I do play overwatch with my mod put bags like off stream I don't think I could ever play it on stream because it gets very competitive right okay like in the sense that he literally plays competitive I played it for he actually informed me he said you played it for eight minutes
00:45:49
Speaker
It's like you never went back to it because the stats came up and I was like yeah because I mean man yelled at me and said what are you doing it's like I'm doing my best.
00:46:03
Speaker
So it was not a good time, so I went back to casual, like the filth of casual I am. But games like that is like... I'm just kinda like quickly pointing out that I do enjoy playing with them. I'm not actually saying that's a bad thing to be a part of the competitive scene.
00:46:22
Speaker
But it's like, I know for a fact, whether it's that or whether it's college, I feel as if I'm a decent college player. I'm by far not one of the 360 quick scope music kind of guys. I'm not that at all. Sometimes I get lucky and I do get a no scope. And throughout the rest of the match, I'm just like, yeah. And then I get angry because I didn't have my capture card on or anything. So I'm like, oh yeah. So I'm just like, shit.
00:46:51
Speaker
I was so close. But yeah, like, I'm happy with kind of being that medium, if you know what I mean, and sometimes I am terrible at games, or sometimes Stage Fright just gets me, or Stream Fright gets me, where it's like, I remember when I was playing Sonic Adventure, and there's this like shortcut I always do at the beginning of one of the levels, where it's just like, you're supposed to spin-dash and then it's like you jump up to the platform,
00:47:16
Speaker
And I think that's the shortcut I've taken since I started playing the game. It's something I could do in my sleep. First time I did it on stream, I instantly died. I was like, the only time that that's ever happened. And I'm like, I can't believe it. Of course. Yeah.
00:47:31
Speaker
but I do agree with you though it's like you have to kind of like bring something different to what you're streaming you know it's like I'm curious to hear what you think about this but one of the things that kind of I don't want to say irks me but you know that I'm cautious that is see when you see all these like duplicate twitch tips videos like some of them are really good like for the bear basics you know it's like it's really good to be like
00:47:57
Speaker
okay this is what you do you interact with the chat you do this and that you know that kind of thing which is great but then he gets some that are just pressuring people to be like people they're not on stream yeah like i mean i've seen people who are like just 110 percent like all the time they're just like
00:48:15
Speaker
yeah let's go gee for a whoot you're like just completely switched up to 10 throughout the whole thing and i don't think like that's something that would like for example that wouldn't suit like my kind of style no i was streaming because i'm very like you might have noticed i'm very like laid back and quite
00:48:32
Speaker
I mean, I do have moments where it's like I lose it or something, but I don't think I could maintain that throughout the entire stream. There's some moments where it is genuinely difficult and you just kind of have to bring yourself back and be like, okay, I'm fine.
00:48:48
Speaker
But it is that kind of worry that people were kind of being told, oh, you have to act this way. Yeah, it's a bit like the stage school. It's like everybody got a smile, you got to wait, you got to look at the camera, OK? It's kind of like that. And yeah, not not everyone is like that. Some days I will feel like that. I'll be full of energy. Other days I'm like a bad teacher walking into class, but like, oh, kids, I'm hungover today. So if you could just be quiet and have a nap, that'd be good. And I think that is OK on stream to just tell people that it's going to be a chilled out one today.
00:49:17
Speaker
I was gonna say like coming into going onto your stream with a Starbucks cup like half an hour late it's like listen listen chat just don't don't talk to me today I'm not feeling it okay just let's get through this game today I'm just gonna open up a window and put on Satsu and we're just gonna watch him don't tell him that I'm just streaming his content yeah I'm just doing exactly the same thing like oh god
00:49:42
Speaker
Just two people hungover. Oh no. What have you done, Blurry? What have you done? This is why they call me Blurry. My vision.
00:49:54
Speaker
That's good. So that kind of brings me on to something again I'm quite curious to hear your opinion on but what would you say is like the most important part of being a streamer on Twitch? Oh god what a question. Well it comes down to just enjoying yourself I think. I think that is really the most important thing in many different ways. If you're enjoying what you're doing
00:50:19
Speaker
then people are going to like you because people like to watch somebody who is, you can physically see that they're enjoying the game they're playing or they're enjoying whatever type of stream it is that they're doing. Because for the majority of things, people might find you because they're searching for someone playing Pokemon or they're searching for someone drawing something, artist or whatever, but they tend to stick around because of you. And at a certain point, it doesn't matter what you're doing, they're there just to see you, which is really fantastic.
00:50:47
Speaker
thing about it. So if you're just enjoying what you're doing, not stressing too much about it, taking a chill and just been happy with the way it's going, that tends to, it's good for you and it's good for your stream at the same time. It's kind of going back to what I was kind of saying earlier that this like, you know, this perception that Twitch streamers are, I don't want to say look down on, but as you know that way where it's like, compared to like YouTubers or things where it's like, you know, YouTubers like put so much time editing, writing, that kind of thing.
00:51:16
Speaker
then people kind of just assume like I've seen this a lot and weirdly enough I did see it on I think it was Reddit or something earlier where someone was moaning because they were like oh I've got a degree and you know I work a 9-5 job and I can't believe that so-and-so is being paid all that money just to sit in front of a camera and play video games yeah but I don't think people actually until you know you get into the scene and everything
00:51:42
Speaker
or see kind of behind the scenes. I don't think people realise how much work goes into a lot of streams. Oh yeah, you need to be like quite tech savvy when it comes to streaming. This streaming software itself like that took me a good while to get my head around and even it was just yesterday that I figured out stuff that I didn't even know about my streaming software like oh that does that. I did not know this this entire time. You know what I just learned today?
00:52:07
Speaker
for the first time, push to talk and push to... I didn't know you could push down a key and when you let go of the key, it reverts back to whatever way it was before. I thought you would just have to tap it and then tap it again. I did not know that was a thing. I feel old. Push to talk. Right. Okay. Anything else? You know, I just want to see what you know, you know. Oh, I see. Yeah.
00:52:34
Speaker
it is actually amazing when you are like feeling about with the like settings and then you're looking you're like you can do that it's like what the hell yeah it's like reaching enlightenment streaming enlightenment i mean it is like going back to what you were saying though it is about enjoying yourself which i think
00:52:52
Speaker
like there is definitely two types of people who view streaming. There's the ones who want to just get rich quick with the minimal effort and there are the ones who think you know like it's kind of it's just a case of like you know turning on the camera and being like because I mean my god there have been some streams where I have gone in and I've tried to be very supportive to them but they'll just kind of do a
00:53:17
Speaker
and then they'll keep playing whatever they're playing and just like not interact at all. And it's not even like they're doing like a challenge run or anything like I don't want to be like oh how dare you like if three hours into your speedrun and you're not talking to me. I was like no no like just like someone kind of like even in like the main menu or something and you're like come on.
00:53:40
Speaker
Whereas, I have to admit, I didn't know what to expect when I started streaming. I didn't by any means think I was instantly going to turn on the camera, or not camera, haha, funny, because I don't use one, you know, like turn on stream labs and be instantly popular or something. But I think that is a dangerous kind of reputation that's been set up for some Twitch streamers. They see other Twitch streamers and they think, oh, it's as easy as that.
Importance of Positivity and Community Interaction
00:54:08
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And then that leads to people getting kind of feeling demoralised that they might not be reaching the kind of same level as like other people. Yeah, like on that subject, I won't mention names or I won't even mention the Discord that I was in, but there was a member of a Discord that I was a member of.
00:54:27
Speaker
And he was, this guy would pop in and he's a streamer. He would never join in on the actual chat of the Discord. He would only ever pop into the Discord to talk about his own stream and to like say, go on live now everybody, come check me out. And he had the worst negative mindset. Like he would come in and he'd be like, no one's watching my stream. And people would be like, oh, sorry, I couldn't watch your stream. I'll do my best to see it next time. We're just kind of busy at the moment, whatever. And he couldn't,
00:54:56
Speaker
quite grasped that like that's an okay thing he felt like everybody had to go and watch him and he was angry that not everybody was and it just became this really weird toxic thing and then when i actually got the chance to like i didn't properly know him i wasn't even follow him or anything he was just a number another member of this discord but i clicked on to watch one of his streams and he was just he was even angry in his stream
00:55:20
Speaker
So for me as like a new viewer just clicking onto it, he was instantly moaning and giving out that the view counter only said two people or something like that. I was like, no, dude, please turn it around. You know, turn that frown upside down. Try just the positivity is going to go a long, long way here.
00:55:38
Speaker
for what you're saying like you know people who are just like moaning about their view count or things there's just so many who kind of think that as soon as that you know stream is turned on because I mean there's like what a hundred thousand like over a hundred thousand people like on twitch at any one time there's so much content going out onto twitch and it's like I mean I have to admit like most of the people that I've like kind of got to know and made friends with was because you know like I started talking to people who then started reading other people
00:56:08
Speaker
And I think that's like an amazing part of it, like being able to both interact with other streamers and, you know, being able to interact and get to know them and then you kind of get to know their community and then you, you know, I don't want to sound like a kind of Saturday morning cartoon where I'm like, oh, we're just like this big bubble of friendship kind of thing.
00:56:32
Speaker
It's like that is one of the really, because I have to admit, I wasn't angry about it like at the very beginning when I started streaming, but I was very like down about it because, I mean don't get me wrong, I was making mistakes and I can see that like looking back, but at
00:56:47
Speaker
the beginning it was I was just kind of looking back thinking oh why am I not getting popular or why is nobody you know checking out my stream even though I was like posting on twitter I was trying to like integrate myself and see when you start off it's really difficult to kind of get a foot in the door
00:57:03
Speaker
if you know what I mean like it is and I don't think people kind of recognize that which I think see if you're like really impatient and you kind of think oh you know I'm just gonna you know oh I'm just like that guy you were talking about like oh how dare you how dare you not watch my stream and be shouted at by me kind of thing like is that kind of sense of I mean I don't want to assume about the person but you know that kind of sense of like self entitlement almost
00:57:32
Speaker
That was certainly yes. Because it is, it's like one of the things that it took me ages right enough to because I know a lot of people who you know they're like looking for tips about how to reach a affiliate and things and I genuinely thought like is he getting the first 50 followers? That was some of the hardest, that was honestly a hard couple of months trying to like build up
00:57:55
Speaker
I don't want to say reputation because I've got silly reputation but you know like to you know like to get your name out there and to be able to talk to people if you know what I mean because yeah I mean not everyone that you're gonna talk to is gonna be like a winner that sounded terrible you know what I mean
00:58:13
Speaker
Like, you know, it's not gonna be like, you're not gonna go into every stream and they're gonna be like, okay there, and you're gonna make like an instant friend. Sometimes you do. And that's just like an amazing feeling when you start like vibing with the streamer and everything. But yeah, when you get the ones that you kind of just have to cut your losses when they're just not interacting in that way. And I think that is an important thing. Like having to, or not having to, but being able to like interact with others and kind of share your experiences.
00:58:41
Speaker
because my god it is like kind of useful or not useful sorry that's the wrong word it's really helpful to have like streamers or other streamers who are like kind of doing this or more thing they can kind of go to for advice and things like that yeah yeah you have that that kind of some people have that feeling of almost like a jealousy of other people they look at another streamer like how come this person has that many viewers and i don't have that many viewers and you're like
00:59:04
Speaker
that's I hate this whatever but like there's no sense there's no point in feeling that it's it's a weird thing to feel because there's like almost an infinite resource of viewers out there and if somebody has 10 viewers that's not them taking 10 viewers from you that's just them having 10 viewers it's no reason to be salty about that type of thing if you get what I mean there no absolutely
00:59:25
Speaker
because I mean that's what I always remember like I was talking to one of my friends who it was the same friend who got me into streaming it was like oh you should try it and it was like on the one hand you can look at it in two ways you can look at it as oh these people are doing something underhanded you know like oh they're only subscribing because I don't know something silly like oh because they're a girl or because you know they're streaming the latest game or because they're doing a giveaway you know like trying to like break it down with that of
00:59:55
Speaker
a really petty reason of oh this is why they're popular but on the other hand you can look at it as right those 10 people or you know those people watching that channel might not you know be into your channel or they just you know because you can't like be in everyone's stream at once that's like you know rule one unless you know like there are some people I have to might have seen who are like
01:00:15
Speaker
you go into one stream and then you go into another and they're like in both streams it's like how the hell are you still here? It's like how are you listening to these two streams? Yeah I've definitely seen that. But I mean it's like on the other hand though it's I have to admit I think it's one of the things that's quite hard for a lot of new streamers realizing that
01:00:34
Speaker
not everyone's gonna vibe with your stream and that's not a bad thing. Like it's not that they're saying you're terrible, it's not saying they don't like your aesthetic or anything, it's nothing like that. Maybe it's just that's not what they're looking for and it's what you were saying earlier where it's like okay maybe you'll get like an
01:00:51
Speaker
arse hat or two you know that are coming through and saying like horrible things but see at the same time though at least that means that you're kind of filtering out the people that aren't gonna truly support you if you know what i mean like the ones you actually want to build a community off of because honestly like i'm sure you feel the same about your community but i'm like a doting dad over mine it's like sometimes i'll go into the discord and see like really wholesome like interactions and i'm just like my god i'm so proud of you oh yeah
01:01:21
Speaker
absolutely yeah it is being able to like find like as you said before where you were kind of joking about saying oh like a weird sense of humor but it's like finding like a like-minded group i suppose to like bounce off of yeah it's this aim that i have to be to become in my own echo chamber when everybody says everything that i want to hear back exactly we have our own views and we stick to them anyone who disagrees come back
01:01:49
Speaker
I think that's the thing as well though it's like I mean as a sustain there's like hundreds of thousands of people even now probably as we are speaking like streaming on Twitch just whether it's like you know whether it's a I know an FPS or whatever it's going to be um or it's just another podcast um still not as good as Chatsanami which you can listen to on Angkor's Spotify and I'm joking
01:02:15
Speaker
i'm not here i lay out those those those plugs please yeah honestly i should have gone into plumbing with the amount of plug sales i'm getting this is a kind of humor that loses me that's what i'm saying but you know what if this is a hell i'm gonna die on this is a hell i'm gonna fall on okay okay
01:02:39
Speaker
but yeah terrible jokes aside or dad jokes aside see that that's what I've said I've said I'm like a dad over my community and then I'm like all the dad jokes are like seeping out but yeah just yeah just because like a group of people aren't checking out your content doesn't mean you know that other people aren't gonna check out your content I mean it's like there's new people coming in all the time like for example you said you started like six months ago and
01:03:08
Speaker
yeah like for one i'm really glad that we bumped into each other on twitch and i'm not just like buttering you up to because you're on the podcast but no because like i mean not only yourself but your community as well i've always been so like supportive and wholesome and things like that yeah
01:03:25
Speaker
It just means that there's just so many people out there that are gonna, you know, come by and maybe they'll enjoy the content and maybe they'll stay. What do you think? Like, do you think a lot of new streamers have this kind of narrow-minded, like, bubble that, you know, they think, oh, because they're not getting these viewers and, like, another streamer's getting viewers? I mean, do you think, like, some streamers think like that?
01:03:46
Speaker
I think so. I think so. I think the same thing happens with like music in real life that if you're in a band or you're a singer or something like that, if somebody else is booking gigs that you know, that's maybe of a similar age and stuff, you have people who are like a little bit salty about that and like, oh, I'm just as good as him.
01:04:05
Speaker
I can play guitar better than him. But the truth is they're not taking anything from you. Those people that are listening to that person are just as likely to listen to you as well. So it's just, I don't know if I'm getting the point across too well, but it feels like some people think that they're competing against other streamers or other people in their field or whatever.
01:04:29
Speaker
And you're really not. You're all there to do your own thing. And just because one person succeeds doesn't mean they're taking that from you. You still have the same opportunity to be able to succeed.
01:04:40
Speaker
Yeah, it is. It's like trying to break out of that mindset of, you know, like they're not doing like a Goldilocks where it's like they're just stealing everything from you. It's like there's plenty of like viewers to go around and there's plenty of support that's going to be there and it's just kind of finding your group and your like
01:05:01
Speaker
you know, your community that are gonna come in and support you. I think as well, I mean, do you think as well it's like a thing of impatience for some streamers? Yeah, yeah, I think some people don't give it enough time and I think it's the fact that it can be very disheartening when you're... I guess the biggest problem that people will have starting out is talking to what essentially feels like nobody.
01:05:25
Speaker
And that's a tough thing to do. It's hard to talk to an audience of no one people will find, because they will be feeling a little bit downtrodden, a little bit depressed over the fact that, well, what do I say? Because if I'm talking, no one's listening, no one's going to sit back. But that's certainly not true, because you'll be surprised about how many people click on the VODs and watch the VODs back at the same time. So you should always feel like you're performing. And that's really what live streaming is. It's a performance.
01:05:53
Speaker
So like one of the things I used to do years ago was I would go busking like maybe twice a week I'd go out busking and busking is a common enough term everyone knows a busking and sometimes you know when he's when he start off you're literally just on the street just like back it down down playing the guitar on your own or whatever
01:06:12
Speaker
and no one's listening to you but you're still playing because someone's gonna walk by and they're gonna hear you and then they're gonna stop and have a listen and that's what streaming is like too it's this performance work when you start off don't expect anyone to be there just do the thing you're there to do start your performance and the passers-by will you know they'll come by and if they like what you're doing they're gonna stop but they're gonna have a little listen
01:06:34
Speaker
I mean, it's like that. What's the film called? Is it Field of Dreams? Where it's like, build it and they will come. Pretty much. Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like, you know, the whole like a room wasn't built in a day thing. That's probably more well known than Field of Dreams. Well, you know, actually, I much preferred Field of Dreams. But then Rome. Yeah, because Rome was just Rome, but Field of Dreams had ghost baseball players. That is true. I mean, you know, Caesar, you can't compete with that.
01:07:02
Speaker
You cannot. You cannot. Yeah, no, I know what you mean though. It's like, it's trying to build that basis.
Balancing Audience Growth with Community Intimacy
01:07:10
Speaker
And I have to admit, that was one of the things I was really fortunate for, that I had all my friends kind of support me through the early days. So you know how you get the, it's like the requirements to become a Twitch affiliate? Yes. And it's like, you know, it's like you have to have, it's like you have to have like 50 followers and an average of three viewers.
01:07:31
Speaker
over the course of a month yeah no i think you're right yeah because i think i managed to get the average like kind of just but at the same time it was like oh that's good that i'm managing to kind of hold on to that whereas the follower thing for me was just really difficult like as i said before so you're getting the first 50 followers it is a slog and it is it's like it kind of leans into the whole people want an instant gratification and then you know you get the whole like follow for follow thing and it's
01:08:01
Speaker
you know, it's like it's trying to promote yourself and build that basis without, I don't want to say without settling your soul, but you know what I mean. I do know what you mean, I do, yeah. Yeah, just without trying to do like underhanded tactics, you know, because this is a kind of worry for me, as you were saying earlier about, you know, bigger streamers with their chats, you know, going up like a bandsaw and you know, if you touch it, you lose a finger. Yeah.
01:08:28
Speaker
like they're going so fast and it's like that is like one of the main worries of God forbid I ever became big on Twitch because you're losing that kind of sense of community yeah if you know what I mean it's like you're losing I don't want to say intimacy but you know what I mean like I kind of like intimate community feel
01:08:47
Speaker
I do know what you mean and I think a lot of people know what you mean. I'm not sure now if PewDiePie himself has even said this but a lot of like big YouTubers have said this that their most enjoyable time on YouTube or even people like on Twitch and stuff was when they had a small enough amount of viewers that they were they were able to have it as a career and still be able to feel like they had this community before they like truly blew up and then the community is like not really there because it's just too many people
01:09:15
Speaker
yeah and like that's that's super interesting because you would look at these people at the top and you're like oh the Pewdiepie is like super successful he must be like super happy with the way things are going but no he's like probably much happier when um he was just in that ground of just growing and been able to have a proper laugh with people who had a similar sense of humor to him rather than essentially the whole world's eyes i mean that is kind of the point i suppose of streaming
01:09:41
Speaker
and content creation that you're trying to entertain people but at the same time you're kind of putting yourself out there as a brand aren't you you know it's like you're because i was thinking that when you brought up pewdiepie it's like nowadays when you think of pewdiepie you don't really think of him i mean you do obviously think of him as a person but when you hear the name pewdiepie you think of it more as like a branding you know oh look it's pewdiepie it's the you know top
01:10:05
Speaker
like YouTuber or whatever, but it's like that's the kind of frame of reference that everyone's kind of seeing them in, which for obvious reasons because he's like gotten so popular. But you can't imagine them doing like, you know, like not him and Patekula, but you know like even the biggest streamers, like you can't imagine them doing, you know, like a kind of smaller stream where they're just kind of talking to people. And not in a bad way, I'm not saying like, oh they're too good for it.
01:10:30
Speaker
for us comic poems. No it's just that I physically can't. Yeah because I mean I've seen like I think I was years ago there was like meet-up videos and things of these big youtubers and streamers and things and I mean my god it's like the riot shields get broken out at half past 11. Oh yeah it's like that crazy stuff Logan Paul does be pulling you know. Oh yeah and it's like why would you... it's just crazy.
01:10:55
Speaker
But yeah, that's like a kind of physical, I suppose, representation of that. I mean, there's just no... This is gonna sound probably like... I don't want to sound gatekeeping or come across that way. But do you ever feel that when it's like there's some streams you can watch and it's like a big YouTube or whatever, or a big streamer and because the chat's kind of going so fast, it's almost like you're watching a YouTube video? Like just with a live chat on the side? Like it doesn't feel as if
01:11:25
Speaker
you're getting any interaction and I suppose that is kind of the trade-off it's like you know like the monkey paw or when they be successful on Twitch but you're gonna have to sacrifice that kind of relationship with your community in a way yeah which I don't know do you worry about that like em about if you or not if but when let's face it why do you get back on Twitch?
01:11:50
Speaker
Well, you know what? If I was ever blessed enough for that to be something that I have to deal with, I'd just have to deal with it then. It's a dream that's too far away for me to even know how I would feel when it comes to facing it. I know that right now I would like to say that I want... I don't know. I don't know. I really just don't have an answer for that.
01:12:15
Speaker
No, this is perfectly fine. I'm honestly in the same boat. The stages of me becoming huge on Twitch, it's just a dream, you know, far off in the distance. And I have to admit, I'm okay with that in a way. I don't want to be at the Oscars where it's like, oh I'm fine becoming a runner-up and then crying behind the stage.
01:12:39
Speaker
Just like, oh god. It's a magazine. Yeah, they put the tiara on the other winner and you're just there. You're smiling but your eyes are just like, oh, dick. Give me Miss Congeniality, oh yeah, fuck's sake.
01:12:55
Speaker
I have seen a couple of streamers who kind of started out the same time as me and they've completely surpassed me because of the way they are doing things in their own way and honestly it's amazing to see them.
Community Building and Raiding on Twitch
01:13:12
Speaker
get bigger, get like a bigger audience and everything and you know like it's good as well for Twitch because and I don't mean that as in like a money you know, well done basis kind of way. I mean just more in the sense of like it's really good that streaming is becoming a lot more mainstream. That people are getting included into the you know like into the conversation of
01:13:38
Speaker
I don't want to be like you know streaming's become an acceptable profession or something but you know it's like it's attracting new fans and at the end of the day like if they start watching because I mean I have to admit I've had like a couple of like people from mutual streamers communities come into my like chat sometimes and then I'm like oh you're so-and-so from I mean even from your community Cabbage has come into my streams a couple of times. Yeah Cabbage is fantastic. Yeah and it is it's like
01:14:05
Speaker
It is really nice just seeing that kind of like people working together. Firstly, I'll go into a stream and I'll see someone like Cabbage viewing them in the chat and I'll be like, you're cheating on me. How dare you watch this person? Yeah, I'm the same for him. He's a great person but one of my modes, S-Banks, he
01:14:26
Speaker
He is like everywhere and nowhere at once. S.Blanks is amazing. I love S.Blanks so much. He is so supportive because it will be. I can't remember what stream it was but I think it might have been one of Blowfish Man's streams or... It was one of these streams where I was sitting there. Oh no it wasn't. It was another streamer called Emsi. So she does like a lot of Warzone streams and things. Really lovely person. And I was in her stream just watching and then two seconds later
01:14:55
Speaker
Ace Bank pops up and he's like, oh hey Satsu, and I'm like, what the hell are you doing here? It's like, go on, get out of here! Like, sure, and I'm out with a broom. It's like, what are you doing here? We're just in the most unlikely of places, but it is kind of nice. It is weird to kind of think of it like that, but it's, you know, like, when you're at the shops and, you know, it's like you bump into, you know, someone you know. It's like, oh, it's you!
01:15:23
Speaker
How you doing? It's nice, it makes you feel like it's more of a community. It does, it really does. It is, it's like community's kind of overlapping with one another and I think that's great. It really is, yeah. It's wholesome. In a way it kind of starts to feel like you're maybe part of a team, like I mean from the streamer's point of view, that you know I'll do my stream and then maybe at the end of the stream you want to look at who you're going to raid or something like that. So
01:15:52
Speaker
That my first thing that I would immediately do is now I'm very bad at remembering to raid But I will look at who is live that I actually know and like so if anyone who I know like yourself is on or whatever Then I'm like, okay. Yeah, that's that's like a member of the team in my brain that that person is getting the raid You know, I'm supporting this person
01:16:13
Speaker
because I do that as well. I'm kind of like right who's what. The annoying thing is like it sounds like such a personal problem saying the annoying thing but it's like when you see someone you're gonna read it's like oh yeah I'm gonna read the shit out of the stream and then two seconds later it's like they go offline and you're like no I know I know yeah I was gonna be wholesome how dare you yeah but the second you read they're like they've just you just see them in the background walking to the bathroom yeah
01:16:39
Speaker
It's like, get back here. I think I did that to someone's stream where I was like, oh, yeah, thank you for the read.
01:16:50
Speaker
Actually, curiosity, has there ever been a time where a raid has gone wrong for you? No, but I do know of somebody who has raided and the person that they raided didn't take it as a nice thing. They, in fact, started giving them tips on how they should stream better or raid better.
01:17:12
Speaker
Wow, that's super arrogant. I can't believe you did something so nice for somebody and they just immediately dissed you for doing that. It was crazy. I didn't even believe it. Why would someone do this? That's horrible, actually. Yeah.
01:17:28
Speaker
The only like, I mean there's two instances for me I have to admit. The first time I was ever raided was when I was playing the PlayStation. It was when I was playing Detroit Become Human and it was the finale and someone raided me but at the time I didn't have like streamlabs set up. Okay so like I was playing and then all of a sudden my like your account went up by like
01:17:50
Speaker
i think five or something and all these people started like spamming emotes into the chat but i didn't realize because i don't know if you've seen it like you and when you're streaming straight from the playstation and like in the chat at the right hand side it doesn't show you the emote it just shows you like the shortcut like instead of the laughing face it's like a lull in caps
01:18:13
Speaker
So someone started, so someone raided me, I can't remember who it was, and they started like spamming you know like a very nice thing for them to do considering like I was at the very start of like streaming at that point. I had no idea raids were a thing so I genuinely thought like oh god the hacker known as 4chan has got my details.
01:18:37
Speaker
like oh god they're here to harass me so it's like I kept it very quiet and then someone was like oh he's so focused in the game he hasn't noticed or read and I was like oh hey guys how are you doing? Because I was really like I genuinely thought I was being trolled like I thought trolling I thought reading was like a bad thing
01:18:57
Speaker
yeah like genuinely i had no idea what it was and i felt so bad afterwards when i looked it up and realized actually reading's a good thing and i'm kind of more comfortable now but i think back then because it was only my friends that were watching my streams really and the odd like one or two people who would occasionally come by but yeah like all these like new people coming in and me not knowing how to react it was just like look
01:19:19
Speaker
Oh did I do? Help! So that was embarrassing. I've never done it since. Like I'm really grateful for all raids and things but yeah it was just so embarrassing at the time. I was just like oh no. And the other one I have to mention, there's been one or two where it's like usually when I'm going to raid someone I'll ask the chat
01:19:42
Speaker
if like they'll recommend someone but there's been one or two cases where I do like the Russian roulette and I'm like right this random person is playing the same game as me I'll just you know I'll read them yeah and it's either they won't like respond to it or you know like because there was one guy that I did read and he just didn't respond but I wouldn't mind as much if it was like a similar thing where it was like oh he didn't know I was reading or he didn't know what a read was but he had like notifications and everything like flashing up on the screen
01:20:12
Speaker
And they were kind of like, oh boy, you're rude. Oh no. But that is honestly the worst it's got. It's not like, as you were saying, getting dissed by someone. I think that's horrible.
01:20:25
Speaker
Hopefully that doesn't happen to me but it's like touch wood. Put a paranoia into your brain there now. Yeah kind of just like a kind of final point. Well first of all what would you say are some of your favourite moments from streaming? Have there been any moments where you've kind of just like you know sat back and been like clipping your own memories almost?
01:20:51
Speaker
It was when I was drawing some of the viewers in Photoshop for the first time based purely on what their username is. So I had a couple of people like Bella and...
01:21:06
Speaker
and puke as well and s banks actually though just based on what their username is so i'll take puke for example that's a good one puke's username is puke bags so that was an easy one i just in like i'm very bad at drawing i think that was that's part of it it's just that i have no artistic talent in that sense at all
01:21:23
Speaker
So I would draw, I drew a bag getting sick, literally puke bags, just based off the username. It was just, it was such a good laugh. That stream was such a good laugh. And one of my nice followers, Antek, for some reason, I imagined a deer for Antek. And I think, I think we discovered it was because Antek kind of sounds like antlers and I have a stupid brain.
01:21:48
Speaker
I think that's where that came from but the funniest thing that we had done with Antec is that I gave him like human feet and human ears and it was just this disgusting looking deer and yeah that actually that broke me like I was I literally got myself into stitches laughing at that because it was just so horrid so yeah I think that's probably the big standout moment that I have that was that I really liked. That's amazing.
01:22:13
Speaker
Because I do remember, I think I came in at the end of that stream. That was a good stream, I must admit. Yeah, I had drawn you as well. I had drawn you as a tsunami of satsumas. Yes, and I'll trade you that, maybe they're forever. Oh no, I remember. It's like, what a reminder. How could I forget? It's hanging up on my wall just now, you know.
01:22:39
Speaker
If you look at my camera, oh wait. No, it was. It was definitely. I do agree. It was. From what I saw over at the end of me, I was kind of like, oh look, it's puke. I'm like, oh god, it's puke.
Advice for New Streamers and Funny Anecdotes
01:22:54
Speaker
Yeah, I suppose kind of like to wrap up and what we're discussing. For all those, you know, hopeful, you know, streamers out there who are wanting to take the plunge, I suppose, and like take up streaming, what would your tips, I suppose, be? Oh, just don't just stop, give up. It's not worth it. Yeah, I'm gonna echo your point and say don't steal our viewers.
01:23:18
Speaker
Just like we there's only a certain amount of viewers we need them. Yeah, there's clearly only 10 viewers on twitch. Okay, and they're all ours You take five at the weekend. I'll take five That sounds like a good shirt. Yeah, it's like where the two parents given it's been up now and Yeah, you can take it you can tell you You can take the discord of the weekend and I'll take them during the week
01:23:48
Speaker
On a serious note, my advice to new people wanting to start off streaming would be just do it, just do it. Don't wait till you have super good equipment, just do it, whatever you have right now. Even if that is just like your Playstation headset, that you think, oh the microphone from the Playstation headset is going to be crap.
01:24:09
Speaker
just do it don't let that get you down don't let any of the quality issues get you down just go for it it's a lot to take in at first there's a lot to learn but just go with it don't look at it like as a mountain just look at it as the first few steps because
01:24:24
Speaker
As you do it, as you stream, you add something a little more each time. You just go, oh, I can do this now. Oh, I can do that. Oh, I'm after learning to do this. You know what? For next stream, I think I want to be able to do this thing. And you just add these things one by one, nice and slowly. There's no race. You're not expected to get off the starting line and just health down the road. You can take your time with it. And that is, it becomes so much less daunting.
01:24:51
Speaker
When you take it step by step and just I hate I hate this term I really hate when people use this but it's your journey, right? But that is what it is it's this journey and he just got it you got to go slow with it You just got a rocket, you know
01:25:07
Speaker
I mean it is, it's like taking it at your own pace as well and just letting yourself grow. Yeah. Because I mean not everyone's gonna, you know, not everyone's gonna like immediately unless like there's like a freak accident or something where immediately out the gate you're gonna be like popular and you know it is, it's like for the majority of people it is just that kind of as you say it's like that journey of just taking it at your own pace and just enjoying yourself.
01:25:34
Speaker
yeah and the thing with like getting super big anywhere be that with photography be that with music be that with youtube or streaming or as an actor anything like that it's luck and it's the luck of who sees you and when they see you that it all just kind of aligns and clicks together that um
01:25:56
Speaker
A lot of these people that we're watching, all these massive YouTubers and massive streamers and stuff, they've worked very, very hard, but they've gotten very, very lucky as well. Someone big has also copped them and gave them a shout out because they felt like, oh, this is going to be a big person or I like them. You never know when that's going to happen. I mean, don't expect it to happen, but that element of luck is a massive, massive thing for a lot of people.
01:26:23
Speaker
Because I mean, it is. It's like even when we are streaming, it's like it's whether you're in the right place at the right time. Like if you hadn't been streaming that day, you know, Naff might not have rated you. And I wouldn't be on this podcast. Exactly. Yeah. And my life would have been so much, so much. What? I was going to say, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Don't worry. I'll be having a word with Naff after the stream. I'll be giving him a good talking to. It's just like, now see here.
01:26:52
Speaker
It is, it's like that idea of you know like that butterfly effect like if you're streaming on a particular day or you know it's just circumstantially a circumstance of weighing them where you know and getting the opportunities and yeah if everyone got you know the opportunity at the same time like it's it would be exciting then.
01:27:16
Speaker
Everyone would just be doing exactly the same thing and there'd just be like so many red pandas out there, oh god. It's a horrifying thought.
01:27:24
Speaker
one thing just to bring up that's that's not stream related at all just to just near the end of this to kind of a little story if you don't mind no absolutely go for it so i don't know if this has ever happened to you or anybody who's listening and i would love to know if this has happened to you so if this type of thing has happened to you before something similar please let me know so i was i was in the supermarket the other day and um it was kind of a smaller one um super value is what it's called i don't think anyone else has this it's very irish chain
01:27:52
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And I'm just walking around, and I'm just taking my time, and I'm like, the music in here is actually decent. Like, you're not used to supermarkets having good music. And I was like, wait, is that... no. They literally have Kanye West playing? I was like, that's strange. And then Kendrick Lamar came on, and I was like, okay, that's something weird is going on. But I'm just walking around, just vibing out of the music that they have on.
01:28:15
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like this is really really good and then it's like Tyler the Creator and then Villagers come on it's a band that I really like I'm like this is crazy it's all these songs that I really really really really like and I'm just walking in I get to the checkout and I'm scanning my items through and there's a girl behind the counter and I say to her the music in here is really good today
01:28:37
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And she's looking at me confused, and she's going, what do you mean the music is really good today? It's just, normally, it's just kind of the usual stuff. But today, it's really quite good. Well, doesn't it turn out that when I unplugged my phone from my headphones, it just kept playing? The little speaker kept playing in my pocket. So I was just walking around listening to my own playlist in my pocket, coming out of my phone the whole time, thinking that it was the store's radio.
01:29:05
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oh that that is my nightmare and there i was just like hey you guys are great your music's fantastic you today and she's just like uh what
01:29:17
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that was honestly like I've got I recently got like some wireless headphones and I keep like taking them out to make sure because sometimes it's like is a really like you're walking by somebody and then they look at you and they're just like looking at you because you're walking by them you know they don't mean anything by it but you've got the earphones and you're like oh my god they can hear this music so it's like I take them out and I'm like all right no it's okay I'm still okay
01:29:44
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I know exactly what that's like That's amazing though
01:29:50
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Well, most of the people around you would have appreciated it and been like, I don't think they would have. It was specifically music tailored for me. Like some, like, granny in the background, just like, oh, some banging tunes today. Some very good tunes. That was amazing. Never got to check my earphones to make sure.
01:30:17
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Just before we wrap up, first of all Alex, thank you so much for coming on today. Thank you very much for having me. No, it's always appreciated and thank you for being the very first streamer to be on for 2021 in Chatsunami. It is an honour. Where can these lovely people who are listening to this podcast find you?
01:30:36
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they can find me on https okay colon forward slash forward slash w w do i hope you're listening carefully dot there's three doggies there g w i t c h dot tv forward slash alex blurrie that's where you can find me
01:30:58
Speaker
got you got you right yeah interesting you can follow me on twitter you can follow me on instagram you can follow me in real life you'll find all those places just follow me on twitch if you follow me on twitch you'll see the links forever now it's all groovy you don't have to though but if you do i'd really appreciate it no no you do have to no if it wasn't into this podcast you're contractually obligated to go for one right now so please go and follow
01:31:25
Speaker
amazing yeah no I know see this this yeah and go follow Alex he's an awesome shimmer awesome person go do it go do it I dare you I double dare you and every everybody follow Satsu please follow me I've got non-existent kids to feed please
01:31:43
Speaker
Please grab my money so I can pretend to feed them. Please give me money so I can try and get the kids back. She took them from me. She took the liens. She took the liens. So yeah, if you want to follow me on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Twitch or indeed TikTok, still don't know how to use it, you can follow me at satsanami42 and all of those. And yeah, once again Alex, thank you so much for dropping on. Thank you.
01:32:11
Speaker
Honestly it was a pleasure. It was great. Thank you very much. No problem. Thank you all so so much for dropping in. As always stay safe, stay awesome and most importantly stay hydrated.