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Spoon Benders
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The up and coming Portland-based garage-psych punk band, Spoon Benders released their debut album ‘Dura Mater’ in May 2020. Inspired by bands such as Goggs, the Pleasure Seekers, Black Sabbath, Thee Oh Sees, and the Stooges, they have managed to create a diverse and highly dynamic sound that promises to hold your undivided attention.
https://www.wweek.com/music/2020/07/08/spoon-benders-music-is-inspired-by-iggy-pop-and-neuroscience/
https://www.spoonbendersband.com/
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
You are listening to something rather than nothing. Creator and host Ken Vellante. Editor and producer Peter Bauer.
Band Introduction: Spoonbenders
00:00:17
Speaker
This is Ken Vellante with the Something Rather Than Nothing podcast. And for this episode, really excited to have a band, Spoonbenders, out of the Portland scene. And we actually have the whole band, AJ Herold. Hey, AJ, just wanted to welcome you to the Something Rather Than Nothing podcast. Hi, Ken. Thank you. It's good to be here.
00:00:42
Speaker
Absolutely. Katie Black, guitar, vocals. Katie, nice to welcome you. How's it going? Good to be here. Good, good. Buffy Pastor, guitars. Very nice to meet you. Welcome to the show. Thank you, Ken. Thanks for having us. And Velvet on bass and filling out the band Spoonbenders. Thank you so much for coming out to the program. Yeah, thank you so much. Excited to be here.
00:01:12
Speaker
Yeah, it's great to connect to your music.
Formation of Spoonbenders
00:01:17
Speaker
I love your sound. I've enjoyed your newer video for Nation. But before I start stumbling over myself and talking about your music, why don't you, the members of Spoonbenders, tell us how you came about, what your musical style, what you're looking to do, and what
00:01:41
Speaker
Where is Portland music going to be when things open up here? So who are Spoonbenders? Oh my gosh, really good questions right off the bat. So Spoonbenders started with Katie and myself. So Katie and AJ a couple of years ago in Portland. I had just moved here in 2017 from Southern California, like a lot of
00:02:05
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uh you know transports through and uh i was looking to find some like-minded people to play music and pretty much anybody i met that said i play an instrument i asked if they wanted to play music with me and katie was one of those people and um we got off to a pretty slow start because we both had a very busy schedule katie was just finishing school at portland state university at that time yeah but when we did get together i feel like
00:02:35
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this idea of what we wanted to do and this sort of road and path was really aligned between what I was interested in and what Katie was interested in and things came together so quickly for us. And then Katie, do you want to tell about meeting Bari?
00:02:57
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was. Yeah. So AJ and I had at that point had been jamming in like her garage and really like into the early stages of writing and jamming, getting to know each other. And I went up to Olympia
00:03:19
Speaker
to see a house show with a band that I was friends with and Buffy was actually throwing the show and I had never seen her band before. And I kind of just saw her and kind of like how it went down with meeting AJ and meeting Buffy and Velvet. It was kind of just like
00:03:43
Speaker
Right off the bat, I knew that we were pretty compatible. I got really excited about them and really inspired and really just like, you're the shit. I really want to have you in my life. I approached Buffy and asked her,
00:04:01
Speaker
if she wanted to be in a band at any point with me or like if she was trying to join a project and I knew she was in Olympia and she was like, yeah, actually, I'm moving to Portland like next week, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Throw it in the show as a going away show. So I was moving out of Olympia and heading to Portland and just serendipitally just came up to me of all the people at the show. Yeah. I was moving there. And then a few weeks later,
00:04:30
Speaker
Uh, we connected and she was like, yeah, do you want to join the band? Like you have a show tonight. And I was like, sure. Cause my intention of moving to Portland was just to like, uh, seek bigger territory of like, uh, serious musicians. Um, then what I had found in Olympia and spin vendors was like the ticket into that. Yeah. It happened really naturally. And.
00:04:57
Speaker
Um, yeah. Yeah. I think it was kind of just like a, I don't know. I think it was because it's my first, uh,
00:05:07
Speaker
first experience being in a band slash like having a band where I was just stoked to even play in a practice space and stoked to just be making noise for the first time and writing songs for the first time that I think I just was like going with whatever gut feeling I had. And I am just super stoked about how it worked out because it was just, I was super insanely lucky, I feel like.
00:05:36
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to meet everybody so naturally. And I appreciate that background in hearing how the band came together. One of the things
Impact of Pandemic on the Band
00:05:49
Speaker
I was wondering as far as when you talk about the band coming together and obviously what's been going on like politically and the pandemic over the last year. I've been wondering about any sort of musical collaborations and making art and doing this podcast. For the band, and this is for you as a whole, you know, as a whole, any of you could answer it. Did you find
00:06:15
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Did you feel like there was some sort of momentum that you felt you had going prior to the pandemic? Did you feel like any point you're like, I don't know what we're supposed to do with this project, should we be making music? It's really a general question about what's the role of the art and music you've been trying to do in the pandemic? What's been going on?
00:06:39
Speaker
Kind of to go back to one of your questions inside that statement of where were you guys before the pandemic hit and everyone shut down here in the States, we were on a rocket-like trajectory. We were moving so fast. We were playing shows every week, sometimes anywhere between one to four shows a week. It was so crazy and so much fun.
00:07:04
Speaker
we did play four shows that week oh i forgot about that month oh my god that was actually yeah we would play like six to eight shows a month oh my god i totally forgot about that we were making all of the art for our shows and making all of our merchandise and just the whole like fun diy project um
00:07:23
Speaker
And we planned our first West Coast tour, basing around a festival in Joshua Tree that was going to happen last year, March 28th. And then just about this time last year, we started to get the news that other countries were starting to shut down and
00:07:44
Speaker
And the questions for kind of coming into our head like, are we going to have to cancel this tour? This is everything we've been working for, is to get out and to start playing on the road and build a wider audience and obviously have the traveling experience under our belt as well.
00:08:01
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um so it was you know devastating isn't really the the most proper or um you know emotionally fit word to describe what we felt when the shutdown happened but we were truly devastated we felt like the rug just got pulled out from under our feet and
00:08:19
Speaker
Well, I think the band kind of went into a bit of a depression at that point. We all needed to take a pause. Obviously, we're all working really hard in our day jobs and, you know, at night playing at the bars and got this news that everything's shutting down. We don't know for how long.
00:08:36
Speaker
And now here we are almost one year later, completely recreating and reimagining how to be a band and how to play music in this climate.
00:08:51
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Um, which has been fascinating and slow, slow moving process for us, but still we've been able to pick up projects. Like you mentioned before, we just released a video. We've been able to safely go into our, you know, quote unquote studio, which is Belvis garage and record some tracks with our, you know, pod mate engineer. Um, and.
00:09:12
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still been able to fashion art even though it's so different than before. You know, it's really, we had to change what our focus was and rearrange and put our energy into different projects, basically.
00:09:28
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And on the flip side of that, kind of as a light, at least for me, I really realized how much I appreciate music through this pandemic and how it definitely has given me something to really focus on and be excited about when it seems like there's not a whole lot going on. So it's super hard just because we want to do so much, but it's also really
00:09:50
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It's giving us something to look forward to and to work hard for, which I wouldn't have anything else if I didn't have the spans. It's so true. Mondays and Wednesdays are the days that we go into the studio to play together, and those are just our saving grace days of like, oh, thank god I get to come in here two days a week and play music with you guys. It's like the closest days that I feel like before the pandemic is going into practice. Yeah. Just before, except
00:10:16
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Well, it's glad I'm glad to hear. I mean, I, it sounds for me as far as, you know, to practice and your ability to come together and some like aspects are just like.
00:10:26
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together and community, like I need the routine, right? That's been part of it. Like I need the routine and know this is going to happen, right? Yeah, absolutely. And then being able to find other ways to communicate with community like podcasts, you know, like if this is the way that it needs to be done safely, then I can get into that because this, you know, is something that fills my soul as an artist to be able to reach out. And I think that, um,
00:10:54
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The ability to communicate, connect, coordinate, and share something is such a huge element to producing art. It doesn't have to be that way, but it feels really good for me when it is that way.
Inspiration Behind 'Nation'
00:11:10
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Yeah, yeah, one of the one of the things I want to do and I have to say like just to to to mention here um I was going to cut over to one of your tracks Nation that I mentioned that you put the video out for so um as I start to talk about music on the podcast with listeners and stuff I always like us
00:11:32
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uh take a little bit of break in this in let's listen to the sound so um we'll we'll do that in the in in in a tiny bit um but i really appreciate your comments as far as um uh with what was happening prior to pandemic and the trajectory and i saw some things uh you know with with your band uh i wasn't listening to material back then but just looking back and just wondering on that question and um
00:12:00
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I think it's kind of like an intimate and great thing to hear how you've kept things together, that you went through the process of being like, oh shit, what do we do now? And it kept things going. I'm going to play, if you don't mind, Nation. We'll get to listen to it. Listeners will get to listen to it. Is there anything you, anybody in Spoonbenders want to mention prior to Cotton to the track?
00:12:30
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want to mention what oh just about the track here okay like anything in anything in the anything in the universe your first your first attempt at why there's something rather than nothing uh no no anything about
00:12:48
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First of all, I love the track. I love the video. I heard it saw video movement that looked like art of noise. I heard some of that doom sound. I heard some dead candy. I love the track, but that's me. What were you trying to do with Nation? Why don't you tell the listeners about it?
00:13:09
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Yeah, I really love Nation. It's most of my songs that so far like I am I think like as far lyrically like I kind of think of my songs lyrically because I write the lyrics first most of the time. But Nation was
00:13:29
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kind of the first song that didn't have like background significance to like an experience, personal experience necessarily. It was kind of like a general song seeking about how divided we are as like a nation and like how insanely like stunted conversations can be as far as like
00:14:00
Speaker
being able to connect with others and like kind of like share your views and change people's minds and how I think there's a lot of separation going on in especially like Westernized cultures right now. And Nation was kind of just like a really cool song that I decided to write.
00:14:25
Speaker
lyrically based on that, but then just like the music kind of came forward because I wanted, I just like kind of wanted to write a spy song. If I'm going to be really honest, it was like, I want to write a song that's just like the background to a spy movie and I want it to be fun and I want to like
00:14:42
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kind of just have something that is high energy that'll be really fun to play live. And it's kind of just like one of the less like heavy weighted significant songs to me, which makes it a little bit more fun and lightweight to play, if that makes any sense. Hopefully that rings true to the track. But yeah, I really I'm this song was a special one to me. I think it's really it was definitely written collaboratively as well.
00:15:12
Speaker
Wonderful we're gonna chat some more about nation spoonbenders gonna play that right now nation
00:16:28
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you
Music and Connection During Pandemic
00:18:54
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Excitation Do you want to take me down to the station?
00:20:12
Speaker
I love that song so much. Thank you for playing our music. Rock and roll. On playing the music bit, one of the things that the podcast is doing, I'm not sure if you all know, is trying to create some space on the podcast. In a few episodes, we're going to have a live version, alternate take. My producer, Peter Bauer,
00:20:40
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Who edits and produces the show is also gonna do a couple remixes for bands, but we got some good music including well, of course spoonbenders, but Buell Thomas from the Bronx who's Well brought well bred Mongrels. He's doing a cover of the cars in the cover of New Order Gina Gleason guitarist for Baroness is gonna submit some material ghost frog from Portland and
00:21:10
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Dirty Princess, Portland, Death Parade, Portland, Alicia Angel from New York City, but love the music. We're bringing it all together on that show. And I'm so excited to connect with you Spoonbenders and that incredible track. It's great to hear and be playing new music, right?
00:21:33
Speaker
Oh, absolutely. Yes, indeed. Yeah, for real. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I mean, it's we haven't played those songs live in a really long time, but we still play our old set while we're working on our new stuff. And it's just like I think especially with everybody else's music, like all the other amazing bands that have been putting stuff out right now. It's just like it's I think there's just going to be
Punk Music and Politics
00:22:00
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so much of a bigger appreciation for shows live music uh recorded music artists in general i think there's going to be a renaissance resurgence of appreciation from that's like in that realm um i'm just really hopeful for the future of music to be honest um yeah yeah i i am too i appreciate your comments i wanted to ask all of all of you um
00:22:27
Speaker
And I it's a challenging question, but I'd really be interested to hear your thoughts on this. And this is kind of like my personal take on music coming out of this. And I want to talk about punk. Like for me, punk feels being around punk. It feels like it feels like connected to the street. Right. And the culture and like what's going on as people interact with each other and
00:22:54
Speaker
In a period of isolation, like there isn't as much as the club scene or not seeing live music, I've been wondering in my head, what does punk sound like when
00:23:07
Speaker
It's going its own way. It goes into a pandemic and then it comes back out. What the hell is punk gonna sound like? You know, I think punk is such like an attitude more than you can put it to like a certain sound and it's like a system of beliefs and more like
00:23:24
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a way of expression it rather it be like emotional or political or anything like that and i believe because this is like such a charge time for politics i couldn't really say like what the sound is gonna be but i think there's gonna be a pretty big resurgence in punk music because people are i mean they're angry and it's a way to express your anger but do it artfully and um in a way that you know is
00:23:50
Speaker
helpful rather than harmful. So not really saying much to the music, but I think the attitude is gonna is going to be huge. Yeah. In the attitude. Yeah. And I'm just trying to hear how how it sounds. I know with with the attitude around it. I mean, I've talked to folks who are in the punk scene and punk is always feels political to me. Like in I think it cuts both ways because punk has been taken on by
00:24:20
Speaker
kind of like neo-Nazi and right, but there's also a strong liberationist movement that's around punk. But it tends to pop up in the political discussion, which goes back to comments before we went to the track about, in a nation, trying to have conversations, trying to have a common space to be able to discuss difference. Do you think music is going to have to take that role?
00:24:50
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There aren't many places for us Americans to meet out our differences, right? Do you think music has any role of kind of letting out some of that energy or provoking discussion or punk?
00:25:02
Speaker
Yeah, I think that art as a collective has kind of been something that can bring people together always. I think it's just kind of proven that over the years that people from insanely polarized backgrounds can appreciate the same piece of art, even if the artist has completely opposing views from theirs.
00:25:27
Speaker
And it has somewhat objectivity to it because people absorb art in such a personal way. And I think it's for everyone whether or not you want it to be for everyone. I don't know if it's going to bring people together to have constructive conversations. I can only kind of speak for myself and how I
00:25:53
Speaker
how I kind of ingest art and how I create art. It's 100% the way that I process and the way that I heal from things and blow off steam or ask questions.
00:26:10
Speaker
And I think that hopefully that'll kind of like ring true for everybody absorbing my art, but I don't know how they usually they usually take it wrong, but in a way that I appreciate in a way that makes me learn from my own art and see different dynamics from the things that I create.
00:26:30
Speaker
I also just think that with Nation specifically, when I was writing, it came from the word Nation, which is a word that I see all the time. It's a word that comes up in the media a lot or in books that I read. But nationalism is a really weird concept to me, having a Nation and having something that you feel
00:26:53
Speaker
Like there is you and then other based on where you are geographically. Um, is that, that's why that song was created because I was having a moment of just like, what the why? Like that's such a weird concept. Like, you know, just going into like how bizarre humans are and how much harm goes from these bizarre concepts that we can, it's a created concept. So yeah.
00:27:18
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I do struggle with that one myself as a concept. So I definitely hear that and share that with it, just to struggle with identity.
Art as Emotional Experience
00:27:31
Speaker
And I think part of the problem is that nation ends up being so militarized or weaponized as a statement that whenever sometimes somebody brings up nation, it seems.
00:27:41
Speaker
like a battering ram. But hey, a big philosophical question. And I got one for each of you. It's the same question. So AJ, Katie, Buffy, and Velvet. All right, you're all artists. I like your work. I like your music. And I know some of you do other forms of art. What is art? Let's start with AJ. Sure.
00:28:09
Speaker
Um, so I have kind of a cheap and quick answer for that, but it's something that I've kind of been mulling over for the past decade or so. And I can't remember where I heard it, but it's stuck with me. So for me, I always have.
00:28:28
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define that art is something that will evoke an emotion so that obviously gives you a wide range of anything you know because you see all sorts of weird funky stuff like for me like a weird funky thing that I would see in a museum maybe is like a toilet
00:28:46
Speaker
Is now a piece of art. Okay, well does that evoke an emotion for me when I see that like yeah it makes me angry that there's a sculpture of a toilet in a museum. Maybe, you know, like a Frida Kahlo could be there instead but then that also goes to
00:29:02
Speaker
the one of my favorite books um zen in the art of motorcycle maintenance for the authors oh yeah quality right and he's like what is quality is it subjective is it objective and we just created what quality is i think quality is as real as as gravity or time like it's a it's a concept you know so for me i kind of like to just take a few steps back and say okay art is something that is is
00:29:26
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bringing up an emotional experience for me. And so yes, it can be the sunset. Yes, it can be the toilet. Yes, it could be something that really upsets me or makes me feel like my stomach is turning. I think that there's a lot of power in that.
00:29:46
Speaker
And I like that we as a band, you know, I try to implement that when we are writing songs is like, especially with dynamics and, and with different textures, like, okay, I don't, you know, I don't want to be manipulative here, but we can manipulate the emotional feeling in the room by how we play our songs. And so let's think about that and try to implement those settings into how we write.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yeah, that wasn't a quick and like, that was fantastic. That wasn't off the cuff. No, I love the emotional content of art. And I think that your example certainly evoked the emotion. What about others? You're looking at each other now. I can feel it back behind the microphone, but who's next? What is art? Members of Spoonbenders.
00:30:38
Speaker
I think art to me is definitely something that evokes emotion, but it's definitely more of a processing of emotions for me, processing of thoughts and events and experiences.
00:30:57
Speaker
in a way that it actually just like lets me feel less on a daily basis, if that makes any sense. Like I walk out of a practice or I walk out of a show a little bit lighter every single time. And it's a way of communication. I think for me, I really, I'm kind of not the most social person and I definitely have like
00:31:22
Speaker
I was brought up kind of like as a loner kid. And it is such a way of like, I'm so used to communicating through writing. I'm so used to communicating through reading books. And it's a comfortable and natural way vessel kind of like way of me to be able to communicate something that I'm feeling.
00:31:45
Speaker
without needing to articulate it as specifically as verbalizing or writing things down, it is a lot more immersive and it's a lot easier for me. And so I think that's what it is to me. And to the world, I do think it's definitely what AJ said. But to me, I see it as a form of communicating more than anything else.
00:32:14
Speaker
I think. Yeah. Thank you. And I apologize to all other podcast guests who have not been in a band because spoon benders get four cracks at this. Who's next? What is art?
00:32:32
Speaker
Yeah, so I went to art school for a while so I've done a lot of like thinking over on this question You know just like what is art versus like what is craft and that kind of stuff? And I haven't really come up with a really like concise answer yet because a lot of times I just want to be like well It's a way of expression or way of getting my emotions out but sometimes I just write like a sick lick and I do it because I love the action and of it and I don't really have any like Emotion that I'm putting into it more as it's just something that I love to do
00:33:02
Speaker
And also I think that there's a certain level, at least in modern day art and music, a certain level of narcissism where we do it because, at least for me in a way, because I like to be able to show people what I can do and what I can put out there. Whereas I do have my very emotional art.
00:33:20
Speaker
It's also just something that I love to share with others and I love to show So for me, I would kind of boil it down to saying like it is a way to connect to people and it is really emotional But I don't think you can put one certain label on it because everyone does it for a certain reason Yeah, that's kind of my really little answer to a really huge question
00:33:46
Speaker
I've been thinking about it for a while. Who did we miss? Did we miss Buffy? Buffy? So art for me is like, so being someone with ADHD, it's like the perfect form from let my imagination run wild. Even just like seeing a piece of art. It's having something in physical form just like puts my mind at ease.
00:34:13
Speaker
and art is like art is kind of like a destructive thing too it's like destruction of just the dullness of society's barriers put onto this canvas of colors or sound and I think the reason why I do it is just so I can like
00:34:34
Speaker
get all these ideas out onto paper or onto recording and decide whether I want to show people what I made or not. I don't have really any ulterior motive of making art. I just happen to be in a band and have my art be shared with other people. Yeah, it's just that connection with it. The question
00:35:04
Speaker
Just to share with you, when I went to school at the University of Rhode Island, I had a very influential philosophy professor who did a philosophy of art class.
00:35:15
Speaker
I was not in art school and not practice art as I understood it. But the question was asked quite a long time when I did that work. And I've actually had a couple of guests who are artists from that college class come onto the show with the same question we were dealing with.
00:35:36
Speaker
in the class. As a matter of fact, one of the individuals that I mentioned was from the Bronx, Buell Thomas. He was in that class and today he sent me a couple of the covers to get some music into the episode that I mentioned. And I'm talking, this is like 25 years ago.
00:35:57
Speaker
It's it's such a nice connection on the show and and also to hear your answers around, you know Each artist is going to say, you know, why is it that i'm doing this, you know, particularly that's happened during um the the pandemic um One of the the the name of the of the show, uh something rather than nothing and I do have the big question why is there something rather than nothing and
Existence and Purpose Discussion
00:36:26
Speaker
Who wants to take a crack at that one? I think nothing is something of its own. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, definitely. And then I think there's kind of the.
00:36:44
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a basic and like rudimentary understanding of, you know, we're human beings and we have, you know, a prefrontal cortex and we're, you know, such smart creatures and we categorize things and just, you know, socially that helps us understand one thing or another.
00:37:03
Speaker
I just had such a basic like that's why there are some things in this room whether it's a you know bed or a desk or whatever it helps to be able to linguistically discuss what's going on but I don't know does it does any of that mean anything
00:37:21
Speaker
to me. Not really, like I truly believe in impermanence. And so for a lot of the things like the bed in this desk in front of me, they're not going to be here forever. Does that mean that it still holds value in certain aspects? You know, like, for me, like, they're just it's just a bunch of atoms, basically, just like you and me are. It's like a duality thing. It's like yin and yang, just something and then nothing.
00:37:47
Speaker
I think humans have such a natural desire to have a purpose, too, that so much of our lives for a lot of people is searching for that purpose, which could even be just creating so that they can leave a mark. And so I think we see that throughout history, especially in art, that people are leaving something so that they have this purpose and so that they won't be forgotten.
00:38:13
Speaker
Yeah, I think on that last point, that's a lot of what we see with artists struggle with right is like a certain sense of like a struggle against non existence or nothingness by saying, you know, I made this song, like here's this book, it's still on a shelf somewhere. It's just that way of
00:38:31
Speaker
kind of trying to show show that you did something almost. And that could be a glorious thing. It's not trying to make it sound trite. But I mean, it's just it feels kind of glorious and being able to do that. Spoonbenders, I want to be able to I was wondering if you could talk, you know, as a whole a little bit more to connect the listeners to
Connecting with Spoonbenders
00:38:54
Speaker
you know like your band camp or whether some it's your individual you know pages or like how to you know download the music what to look for as the world you know opens up a little bit more for music so how do folks connect with you as individual artists or spoonbenders as a whole
00:39:14
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think the first thing that you should do if you want to is listen to our album, Der Mater. It came out last year. Yeah, that's kind of how I want people to connect with us. I want people to listen to what we
00:39:32
Speaker
make and how we create. And if you want to know when we're creating more, when we're doing more things, you can go up on our Instagram account and kind of see when we're releasing. We just recorded three new tracks that we're going to be releasing
00:39:52
Speaker
individually once we're done mixing and mastering and you'll know when that goes out if you go on our band camp and you can follow us on band camp we love band camp and yeah and we're to be honest like I'm kind of looking for different ways to connect with people beyond
00:40:10
Speaker
Instagram and beyond like summing up these like super holistic people into you know photos and stuff like that so I'm gonna try to think of maybe more like a podcast maybe like maybe more ways to let us kind of connect with viewers in a in a really authentic way hopefully in the future but yeah for right now that's what that's what I got for y'all sorry
00:40:39
Speaker
No, that's great. I want to obviously enjoy your work and I enjoy, you know, it just being more recently introduced to you, your work as individual artists, AJ Harold, Katie Black, Buffy Pastor and Velvet on Spoonbenders. Really love your music and I love you considered discussion around
00:41:04
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philosophical topics and thinking about what artists are doing. But importantly and excited with, like I said, building in the performance components of these something rather than nothing episodes.
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For a music performance I'm really excited to that will, you know, be able to get over the next few weeks some of your material out and kind of like a little bit of a variety of format for folks to listen to with other artists. So I'm excited to have this kind of continuing thread and
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Thank you all so much for spending time on the show. I really appreciate it. I hope you had a nice time. Yeah, thank you so much. Thank you, Ken, for sure. Yeah. Spoonbenders have been great to encounter your material in your art.
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And I'm sure we're going to talk again soon. Thank you so much for your time and everybody check out Spoonbenders some great, great music. Let's get back into music. Let's get back into making things and talking about our humanness. Right. Thanks, everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Bye now. Have a great night. This is something rather than nothing.