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Matt Has Cancer

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Speaker: Why don't you go get me one of them P's, boy?

Speaker: I want one of them

Speaker: Now go get me one of them S's. What's that spell? POS. It doesn't stand for anything.

Speaker: I got cancer, bro. Fuck. Really? Yeah. It's like this thing on my neck. It's like a topical skin thing.

Speaker: cancer bro

Speaker: it's like this thing on my neck it's like a topical skin thing You know, I'd never go to the fucking doctor and because of your dumb ass, i decided to go the doctor and guess what? Cancer. So thanks, Lance.

Speaker: ah Now, so I went, I've had this thing on my neck for like months and I'm like- thing? i don't know if you can see it, but it's like a I don't know. It looks like a mosquito bite. And so I was just kind of like, what is that? And then I kind of forget about it. And then, um so I went to a dermatologist yesterday or yesterday. And she's just like, she's looked at it was like, yeah, it's cancer.

Speaker: But she was like, you don't need to freak out. This ah this happens all the time. It's not ah it's not like a ah type of cancer that metastasizes and affects your other organs. You could actually just leave it there for years. But then if you wait like 20 years, it'll get complicated. So you just need to get it removed.

Speaker: So ah I'm like, you know. pretty casual with your delivery there, Doc. I got cancer. But ah so it's, it's i it hasn't been biopsied yet, but she's going to remove it mid September and then biopsy it. But I read, I spent all night, if I look tired, reading about it. It's called a basal, like basal cancer something. It's like a topical skin cancer that's basically like a hundred percent survival rate and doesn't really metastasize as long as you don't let it fester for like years and years and years.

Speaker: You're fine. Yeah, I'm not too worried about it. It's just like... The word cancer. The word cancer is fucking... It's pretty crazy. So then I had to tell my kids. i actually told my wife so that she wasn't blindsided if my kids were like, hey, dad's got cancer. We had we actually had a lot of fun with it. I mean, I don't i know that humor is a deflection, but we I was like, all afternoon, anytime they do anything, and be like normal shit, like go clean your go clean your shit out of the car. be like, come on, dude.

Speaker: have cancer. Let's just do it. So... Told my kid he needs to he needs to not go to one of his friend's birthday parties. He should come surfing with me. Because I cancer.

Speaker: So that's my big news. That just happened yesterday. So I didn't i was like, I'll just save it for him. Because I didn't want to text you. I just got diagnosed with cancer. That would be kind of a shitty text. And then it turns out it's just a topical skin cancer that it's easy to remove.

Speaker: Were you rattled? Sounds like you're a little rattled. Well... I don't know. I didn't feel that rattled. And then I was kind of like, should I be? I was like, am I taking this too chill or am I am i lying myself? But I was kind of like, okay. But she was really adamant that it's not much to worry about.

Speaker: You'll be fine. It's just, it's a reminder of of your age. But I mean, I get my skin checked every year and have because I've obviously not as Italian.

Speaker: Yeah, partially. um Yeah, I don't know if that matters. I mean, she's ah just as happens with like prolonged exposure to the sun. I mean, obviously surfing's a little rough. um You know, the thing is too, you think about your face so much.

Speaker: you But your neck, you're just kind of like, whatever. My neck is is ah you know dark after everyone. So I gotta take care of that. and um I mean, it yeah, it sucks, but it's also like, it is it is especially knowing too that if I can survive for like five years, that AI will eradicate illness. I'm like, why now?

Speaker: You know? mean It's a reason to just leave it on there. Don't even waste the money. That's true. Yeah, I got hit with that. ah Yeah, I don't know. It's just like, well, but it's just like the conversations suck because then I'm then ah I got to tell everyone that, well, it's like some cancerous growth and then everyone's like cancer.

Speaker: My sense around my parents, it's like you get to a certain age, people are getting shit removed constantly. Yeah, she did a full body. She like checked my whole body because I have these other moles and shit. And she's like, no, you're fine.

Speaker: She's you have an amazing body. Yeah. Put your shirt on because I'm trying to work. ah She's like, if it weren't for the cancer, I'd be jumping these bones.

Speaker: So, well, that happened. I think I willed that, dude, because I've been thinking about my life over the past few years and i i I just kind of had like subconscious idea like I'm probably gonna get cancer or something like it's probably not over like I don't know it's weird like lately things that I've been like ah just kind of like I mean I've been really focused on like everything's gonna be fine don't freak out stay calm be able to think but like it seems like anything that I think it becomes a reality just kind of weird um

Speaker: i've got I've got an example of that too. But like, dude, the reality is if removal is scheduled for September, we're talking about a pretty common thing and not a big deal. Exactly. And especially last night, I looked into it because I was just like, does this mean you're whatever higher risk for other cancers? And i and for this particular thing, assuming it is what she said it was and what yeah the answer is no.

Speaker: So... We'll see. But yeah, that happened. And then i know i got I know you had a pretty big week, so I don't want to hog the mic. but So what's kind of funny is just thinking about... So yesterday that happened, and then I was picking my my daughter up from her dance class.

Speaker: and She left something there, so I had to go back. And on the way way back, some dude pulled in front of me and got into a car accident, which turned out it was his fault. But I was just like, boy, what a day, huh? i think Are you fucking kidding me? God.

Speaker: I know, it's funny. it's I still feel stupid saying this shit. like it's like i'm not a It's just funny that it's like I got diagnosed with cancer in a car wreck in the same in like eight hours. Sounds silly.

Speaker: the The whole basal cell thing, though... Basal cell. You know what it is, right? Basal cell, yeah, dude. it's It's kind of hard to walk around and be like, I got diagnosed with cancer. All saying is it's so common.

Speaker: And it gets removed pretty pretty easily. It's not like... I don't even know what, like, would you call it cancer? like tech Like, if someone's like, if I say I have a growth, I'm getting, I'm having a growth removed.

Speaker: Or it's like I'm having a tuber. Like, they call it, in the report, they called it a tumor. My kids, because I was like, no, it's no big deal. My kids were kind of like, my my son was rocked, and then he was fine, and we were joking around, and Uh, you know, we were joking around about saying all this stupid shit that people say. And they're like, we're going to get through this together and all this kind of shit. So we're just in the car being smart asses. But then I look at the report to a text message from the doctor and it says your tumor and that set them, you know, set them off again. She's like, it is fucking cancer. She wrote tumor.

Speaker: And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what else to call it. So it's probably just terminology. You know Yeah. No. Right. Right. But hitting somebody with, I got diagnosed with cancer for a very removable skin cancer is kind of funny.

Speaker: Especially your kids. My kids are like, how was your day? i was like, ah. Because their mom was like, well, maybe you shouldn't tell them. You haven't had a biopsy yet. Maybe if you tell them you have cancer, it's too heavy. And I was like, I'm just going to tell them what happened.

Speaker: Yeah. And the accident wasn't my fault. so I felt bad for that that dude, but he was kind of like, why don't we just say we're both at fault and your insurance takes care of yours and you just take care of mine. I'm like, dude, I'm really sorry. I don't need you to get in trouble, but like...

Speaker: it was your like If we take this to court, you're going to lose. And then a traffic cop came and was like, yeah, he's going to lose. It's going to take like eight months, but he he will lose. And all the insurance people... like You should see ah an accident in Costa Rica. It's the most inefficient thing. You can't move your car. And then your insurance people have to arrive. And then a traffic cop. So it takes like hours.

Speaker: And you're like blocking traffic. And he tried to do everything to get my gringo at it. He's like, well, let's just move the cars and then figure it out over there. And I'm like, I'm sorry, dude. Can't do that. And and ah he's nice, but it's just like, he's like, oh, I kind of think we're both at fault. I thought you were going to let me pass. And I'm like, it's like I'm just driving down the street. and He he let pulled out left turn in front of me.

Speaker: And then I hit him. But I'm like, i I can't do it, dude. And then I popped the C-bomb on him and was like, you know what happened today, dude? Got diagnosed with cancer. Wait, that happened like right after?

Speaker: It was, no, I got diagnosed at 1145 in the morning. This happened at eight o'clock at night. So it was roughly eight hours later. Will you quit saying I got diagnosed? I'm just kidding, dude.

Speaker: This is funny. i did not I didn't bring up the cancer to at the accident. I'm kidding. I didn't tell the guy I got diagnosed. Well, i know you didn't. I know you didn't. But it's just just the way you're talking. It's like you have stage four prostate or something.

Speaker: Fuck, I might. i Follow your advice and I go get it checked out. Who knows? And then this morning, my wife was like, we need to we should probably talk and figure out we're going to do.

Speaker: And so I was like, right, let's do it now. She's going to drop that on you right after the C diagnosis? Yeah, I know. I'm like, the I mean, unless unless it moved her and she thought about my my fleeting.

Speaker: I don't know. She wants to get the will together? Maybe. i don't I don't really know. I mean, in a way, she's right. I talked about it with you off air, I think, last week, where there's like some open stuff where you're kind of like, i wonder what's going to happen. at the same time, it's like things are going pretty smooth with the kids and and me paying for a lot of stuff that that's like, we don't necessarily have to do anything, but, um, I don't know. I'll just see what she says and try not to be too, um, resentful and too bitching about money and stuff.

Speaker: Yeah. We'll see how I perform. I think you got the upper hand with the cancer and the car wreck. Yeah. It's like, why don't you just pile it on? So, but I think none of that compares to what maybe you went through this week.

Speaker: Oh, it definitely compares. It's, it's, You've already diminished my cancer, so that doesn't count. i didn't I don't mean to, actually. I think it's a scary thing anytime you're you're confronted with that word. Exactly. And the situation. And then then trying to understand what exactly they're talking about, trying to have trust in what the doctor says.

Speaker: Yeah, and you feel like, should I be go crazy getting opinions and figuring out the right way? And not and I'm like, it sounds like just get it removed. That's it. And you'll have some stenches. Yeah. nothing Nothing much going there. Yeah, get it done. The car wreck is one of the more annoying things in modern society.

Speaker: yeah I'll categorize it as annoying, assuming nobody got hurt, but it's just a it's a reason not to drive, to be honest. I put it like... like there and the ah Another thing going on, and this isn't like a big deal, but like trying to collect some money for it. like We really need to get a table out of our shop and and and move some stuff.

Speaker: And... ah Like, the so we kinda just said, alright, take it, and the person hasn't paid yet. Like, an accident is like, like things that you don't wanna do, which is like, you're like, I don't really wanna fuckin' get this guy who hit me like in trouble, or get him tickets, or fucked up insurance, but it's like, I kinda have to do it. where It's like, the same as asking people for money. Where you're like, I don't wanna sit here and fuckin' demand money from people, but I need it.

Speaker: I put it in the same category of hassles in life that in the modern society just makes us do. Ask for money, shit like that, you know? Mm-hmm. It's all bullshit.

Speaker: So, yeah. Well, I dropped the kid off in college, as you know. Wow, dude. How'd it go, dude? how How's the scene there? It's a smaller school, it' so super welcoming. They've got, like, traditions where they... You know what I'm asking, dude. Don't fucking... Just kidding.

Speaker: Some very robust volleyball players, for sure. Uh, no, they do some ceremonial stuff and the parents all get emotional, but it's a welcoming environment. The, the stupidest thing that happened was two hours after we left him, they go to do some casual runs and he rolls his ankle.

Speaker: So we're like driving back from the hotel to bring some supplies. yeah He'll be fine. It's supposed to be out like a week, but. Like, uh, with the team or like he just out running by himself. Oh, okay. Yeah. Damn. They start quick, huh?

Speaker: Well, they're just, it's not coached. What do you call that? Like non-commit, like OCTs or so optional training or something like that? Yeah, just just just runs. Like, yeah, I don't know. ah Yeah, he does that. So we're like all, you know, just trying to decouple. Just think of the parent's perspective. You're like, okay, sending him off to a positive environment. We're now having drinks out at the restaurant and we're going to drive away feeling calm and collected and then bam,

Speaker: I just rolled my ankle. It's really bad. and So fucking then we're getting getting all these supplies. We're back in as parents. Now you should drive them home and get them a welding job just be like, you fucked up. You ruined it. This doesn't work for you, dude. Yeah, I'm wrapping his ankle and I'm like, I'm just sitting there after reflecting going, God damn, I can't.

Speaker: The send off can't even be. mellow now that of course that can happen and a million worse things could have happened all that's true i was just sort of like keyed up after like huh i thought i was like can i have a smooth sailing departure from that era of parenting yeah but no one one one for the road huh one for the road exactly so otherwise though it was good it was very good and so you you guys got back yesterday We got back yesterday, dude, and everything feels quite different, to be honest.

Speaker: Yeah, that's crazy, man. When does he start school? They officially start Monday, but they're doing all this group freshman orientation BS. i don't know if you want to talk about on air, but is he, his he you mentioned, I think, on air, but he had a girlfriend. him Is he, is he are they staying together? Or they and then he was he like late?

Speaker: It's time but time to go to the dorms. No, they're staying together, I think. I don't, I don't, I won't talk about it. I don't want to speculate. It's it's a sensitive time. I went through it. We broke up.

Speaker: My wife and I. It's a good time. It's a good topic. Not necessarily talk about when your kid's going on, but it's like, if you would give advice, cause I would say no, don't like, I would say in that relationship.

Speaker: But then I see like you guys and a few other people were at work, but maybe you guys did the right thing, which was like, you enjoyed college. And then it was kind of like, if we end up together, we will. That might be a good way to do it for people that are in a serious relationship coming out of high school. But there's no right or wrong way, I guess. Just depends on the the people.

Speaker: Yeah, I don't think there is. It's just it's really hard to know if if you feel like you want to experience the world more and you want to do that through women's bodies, then you maybe don't want to stay together with your high school girlfriend.

Speaker: Right, but you get back together and find out she's been plowed by the whole fucking school. And you're like, wow, you really took those four-year experimental years seriously, huh? Exactly. i don't I don't know though some people, they they they know.

Speaker: and I think I was pretty sure that my wife was gonna be the person I wanted to marry. But i I felt like you had to test it all. It's just such a different time too terms of their ability to keep in touch. Pretty easy to keep in touch now. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker: So I wouldn't give advice to anybody. I'd say, follow your heart, follow your heart. Right. I mean, I'm kind of like, I mean, if I'm giving my kids advice about relations, I'm like, no, don't settle down with anyone ever. But I'm kind of telling them, like, if if someone in your, I'm like, listen, you're going to change a lot over the next four years and the people you think are cool now, you might not.

Speaker: But if this per it happens to be the one is someone you're in school with, then it's going to work out eventually. So fuck them right now and tell them to go to hell. And if they come back in your life later, good. That's what I tell them.

Speaker: I tell them that all the boys and girls in their school are fucking losers and not, not, they're not worthy. Now I do tell them, like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't get too settled down with anyone right now because you guys, you guys want to do a lot. I mean, they both like want to go to college outside the country.

Speaker: They got a lot on their mind. what What makes you think your advice will matter when that time comes? If you're hooked on somebody, there's nothing. I don't. agree with you. I mean, I say that about it anything where I'm like, oh, there was something else. I was like, well, i know you're not going to listen to this, but you're going to, you know, in 20 years, you're back. That was true.

Speaker: But I'll say it anyways. It's like almost anything you say. Yes. I think if you're with somebody and there's some major things off balance, like you've given up something super important to you, if you're a young person, ah that's probably a sign to step back.

Speaker: um But if things feel great and both of you are just like, uh-huh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I know, like, my my one of my daughter's best friends is ah this, like, they her the the girl's parents, that I think they met in third grade or something like that. they Four kids, they're doing great, or at least on the surface.

Speaker: So it happens, you know? But they're aligned. They were aligned. Yeah. Yeah. So who knows how things come together, why things work? Anyway, so it's not that important, but you initial thoughts, you're you're like completely empty nested. Is it actually a thing?

Speaker: Is it like ah you said it's a little weird, but is there actually anything? and some of those days, like you woke up and the sun still came up, so it's not that different. But is there like a bit of melancholy or something? Oh, for sure. i mean, here's what I think will hit people at different times is you if you see your kid walking away or you're saying goodbye to him or you're starting to conceptualize, oh, wait, they're really away from me now. And this is the start of a completely new phase. If you sit back and you get those pictures of them as young kids or, you know, hanging out and doing the things when they were little, when, you know, you had control over their lives and sort of you were kind of the vessel for their fun.

Speaker: and you get those pictures and then you realize that's never coming back. And really the the the environment experience of them being at home and truly being at home, at least in the right way, is never coming back. In a welcomed way. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. And ah that's weird. That is weird. it's It's so hard to picture ah ah the age of my kids are. Like, if you think back a few years, like, I'm like, oh, they're always going to want me to be a part of their life. but But it's so weird that I even have that idea. Because if I think about how little I talk to my parents, how little they're a part of my life.

Speaker: Like, I mean, I don't, I have a good relationship my parents, but ah they're far away and I just don't, it's not like I call them like all the time. And it's like, well, that could happen to me.

Speaker: These two people could be someone I talk to twice a month. Well, in all likelihood, they will if they're healthy. it They'll still be a part of your life. But, I mean, yeah maybe maybe not maybe more frequently they talk to you. But, like, no, they're going to – that's the whole goal is for them. that's That's the weirdness is, like, now he's off building his life and he's doing it. used to do it with us and we were sort of there coaching and now he's doing it all on his own kind of thing. And now you're like, all right, we set him up for success.

Speaker: We hope. Yeah. Yeah. Um, well, congratulations, bro. I mean, yeah, I'm going through a few things, but, uh, you know, i' but I'm, I'm pretty happy for you. It's fucking cool and scary.

Speaker: It's like, I mean, i I'm sure it's all cliche, but it feels like you were sitting where I, I, I am like two seconds ago. Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. I think you'll be a blubbering mess though.

Speaker: i might I mean, it depends the route they take because, you know, most Costa Ricans, if they stay in country, they're they're not really out of the house. you know A lot of people like people live at home. They go to the main university. It's pretty close where we live.

Speaker: If Sophia goes to France, that'll be another ballgame. and As of a few hours ago, Luca's still adamant that he's going to Colorado. like he's like and I'm like, you motherfucker, dude. You're going to France. It's free. You can ski there.

Speaker: but He's like, I don't care what you say. If I gotta go live there and get my residency, I'm going to i'm i'm carrying on the family tradition. I'm going to Boulder. and I'm like, alright, dude. Why don't you go to grad school there? Go to like fucking whatever, University of Chamonix or something. You can snowboard, rock climb for 200 euros a year and travel around Europe.

Speaker: Destroy. Did you take the choice away? Just take it away. Colorado? Yeah, we're not paying for that. He's kind of a prick like you. so he's just like, I'll take care of it. It's all like, oh, fine. I'll go there and I'll work. I'll save up money. I'll get my residency. and Then go for it. I did tell him that he could do that. I'm like, you know, you could go move up to Vail.

Speaker: You can make 25, 30 bucks an hour, which is all true. Get your residency, save up some money, maybe even take a few classes at like Colorado Mountain College or something like that. Bang out some credits. That might be a good way to do it.

Speaker: He's like, all right. I was like, no, no, no, go to France. I mean, I would love it if he went to school in Colorado, but I don't know. For me, you know, what what's close to you seems lame. Like, for you and I, to go to school in Colorado doesn't seem like a big deal. But if anyone from anywhere else in the world, even or East Coast kids or Midwest kids, or, like, to go to school in Boulder is, like, a fucking...

Speaker: Oh, amazing. You know? So for for a lot of people, it's like that is that is a dream come true. And he's he's had he has fun when he goes to Colorado and it's kind of fits the shit that he's into. so Where white guys can still play basketball, Colorado. ah So he's getting back into hoops, by the way. He'll be happy about that.

Speaker: That's good. Good to hear. so what So now what do you do? like you gonna you got I know you're trying to be hands off and let them go, but are you trying to get out to games? I mean, you don't have that's a few months away, but like how do how do you manage the relationship from here? Or is it just like, I'll see you in Christmas?

Speaker: We'll try to go to games, assuming he's getting on the court. It's like anything. You're showing up to a place. you You think you're the only really good kid that was recruited, and then you go, oh, wow, now I've got to compete. so But, yeah, if he gets on the court, we'll go to probably more games. Otherwise, we'll just support the team and watch it online and then go visit him a couple times.

Speaker: So you're talking about how you're you know you hope they're ready to take on the world. How how do you think, I mean, you'll never know, but so he's been the man for, for what, 10 years? if he if he If he's got to ride some pine, sit on the bench, you think he's he's equipped for that or it's going to be rough?

Speaker: Well, he's never been the man except for last year. I don't know. It seemed like he was a man, but... He had always started on his on the club teams that he got because he was always ah undersized, grew late.

Speaker: He was always like ninth man. Always had a bit at least a chip or something. though Well, then he worked his way up to start a lineup. But, yeah, so he's so he's used to that. I don't i dont think he'd be fine.

Speaker: That's good. And and that that like back to what we talking about, you're like probably good for him. In a right, right? A little adversity or something like that. Right. Well, do you want to go to the kind of program where you can walk in and immediately be the man? And then it's like, did you even go to a program worth working hard for? I mean, it's kind of one of those catch-22s.

Speaker: I just wonder, knowing where he came from and the system he was in, that if he might really find himself, even more than he ever expected or knew or you knew, like getting out of that coach and all the stuff that he was dealing with before, like he might be, might really flourish if the system's right for him and the coach is supportive and all that kind of shit.

Speaker: I would guess his upside is pretty significant. And I would say without seeing other players relative to other players. So he just turned 18. A lot of them are coming in. 20. They're coming in at least nine, 10 months older, which actually ends up still being a big deal um with more muscle.

Speaker: So he'll figure all that out. But yeah. I hope I can see him play sometime. I think you will because he'll be ah over over there pretty close. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm going to fucking go crazy.

Speaker: I'm going to Bobby Knight his ass. Especially if you guys aren't there. oh Come on, Chuck. Come on. your head out of your ass. What do the football coaches always say? Get get your your head on a swivel? i like What does that even mean? Like we missed something or or we got blocked hard?

Speaker: I can't remember when when that was yelled at us. Get your goddamn head on a swivel. There's so many stupid things that coaches say that seem so important.

Speaker: then I mean, i I think I did pretty well as far as not really getting into all that crap, but I i wish I could go back and check it down even more. you know like Like what? Just like i even got, I mean, you want to get caught up. It's fun. The emotion of it and all that crap and like, in and how important it seems.

Speaker: But just to know that it's not important at all. It's just like a ah fun thing in your life. I think maybe it'd be funner. Like it seemed like the most important, like high school football seems like something that's so important for everyone.

Speaker: And it's, I mean, it's just not. Well, maybe it is. don't know. I think it probably is age appropriate. It's like probably was one of the most meaningful things you did in high school.

Speaker: yeah I mean, maybe in your life. ah For your development. i mean i I wouldn't put it up there for me in that sense. But I guess winning a championship in high school is pretty exhilarating and a fun thing to look back on.

Speaker: But I get, you know, age appropriate. There's that sport in particular, all sports really, but football, it just just does challenge your psyche a lot challenges your psyche but it also builds uh this a level of team because of like the whole going to war mindset around it it it develops just a sense of team that you don't get in a lot of other sports yeah maybe i take that back it is pretty actually important uh it's just i mean the idea like i think it would have been it felt like the ah like if we would have lost like somewhere in the playoffs it would have been like the the epic life failure and the most worst thing ever it probably wasn't right no of course yeah the results were not that you know didn't really dictate your life if i mean obviously and um

Speaker: the importance that you put on it as a kid obviously didn't compare to actual real life events that I don't know, like having a kid, getting, getting married.

Speaker: It's just funny when it's over and you're like, all right we won state. And then that's where you're like, Oh, nothing happens like didn't it doesn't mean you're getting a scholarship doesn't mean that you're gonna go meet the governor i don't maybe we did did we go to the courthouse i don't know but like you're just like ah there it is it's over oh now we go play hoops or now we get ready for baseball and now we go to track or nothing else happens it's like gotta go to history class on monday m right right but it's just a it's just a fun memory yeah ah do you remember do you remember the day on the field

Speaker: Yeah, I do. I mean, I think I broke down. I mean, I was emotional. Oh, yeah, I did. I think we, you know, it's a lot of work. It was awesome. I mean, I don't know why I'm downplaying. I just think, like, I don't know if at the time, maybe it's like we're not, a mo you can still hear me, right?

Speaker: Yeah. Maybe we're not emotionally mature enough at the time to be like, Oh, you know, I don't need to stress about this. I really should focus on enjoying it. And I don't think maybe I was ready to do that because I'd be like nervous before game. And I bet you a lot of people are like, what are you talking about? You're the one like laughing and talking shit and having fun and ignoring Lance's speeches or whatever the fuck. Like, but just the idea, like being nervous and doing all this shit is like, what am I nervous about? fucking high school football, you know?

Speaker: ah but yeah yeah that That sport, though, think about it, too. The gear up, the nervousness comes from, I think, an honest place because every game, ah something got kind of got hurt, right?

Speaker: huh finger, elbow, knee, leg, like just bruise of some sort. And there' there's that kind of like good football soreness that came after that battle. But it wasn't it truly is structured like a battle where, you know, one guy wins each play.

Speaker: Right. And you have your assignment and you either win it or you don't. And that's nerve wracking to think about. Like, I got to be ready. I got to be ready. Every play, i got to be ready. You're right actually. Like thinking of, because I never, which was probably more important to me. I mean, I went to play in college. Baseball was more important to me, but I never, like it was not a nervous experience or anything.

Speaker: Part of it's too, like baseball, you're playing three games a week. You're playing after, after school on a Tuesday, Saturday. Like there's so much buildup around, around football and, uh,

Speaker: You know, like like, I gotta go into the, ah I gotta go in on Saturday morning, and we got and we have this and that. It's like, dude, sorry, I lost you. There. It's like that like, there's all this hype around football. The way the week flows, and then you got that one opponent that, you know, and there's only 10 games, so like, before before you get to the playoffs, everything seems so important. It's just kind of funny.

Speaker: Knowing who we are now, like, not exactly like, sort of like jocks, football heads. It's just kind of funny that we got pretty wrapped up into it. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think the sport is when I look at it as an adult and I look at kids play it I just seem so stupid.

Speaker: It seems so stupid. You think so? Well, the behaviors and sort of the... Yeah, I think that's what I'm saying. Just the whole behavior behind it is like...

Speaker: The performative toughness, just even the coaches, the way they are where they'll grab a face mask and yell at a kid. It's like about being tough. And like when you really go through life, what being tough is, is absorbing things and that are really hard in life and staying calm and being there for other people. That is actual toughness. That's hard as fuck.

Speaker: But, you know. That would be pretty funny, a coach out there, like, preaching, like, empathy and awareness, mental awareness and stuff. It's like, come on, guys.

Speaker: I don't know. Well, it was good experience. what What do you think, though, to wrap this piece up, what do you think you took from that and actually enhanced your life or was a sustained, I don't know, a belief or a factor in your life?

Speaker: Yeah. I mean, i think, I don't know. It's a good question. I had to think on it little bit. But there's a little bit of like, I think the lessons, it's almost like I'm learning them now. Like like kind of what I'm talking about.

Speaker: Not now, but like throughout life, you're like, oh yeah. That stress, it's like whatever stress I had before a game, once the whistle blew and the and the ever then then it was great. Like the games always fun. I wasn't nervous at all. And it's always been like, oh yeah, how do I capture that feeling that I had once we started playing a game?

Speaker: And and like go into a situation like that where you're just like, I'm confident, I'm enjoying myself, and I'm going to do well. was like the the my mentality like before the whistle and after were completely different. and I was like, I need to capture that. But I also think um just the idea of like, even though i'm saying I wish I had more, kind of the idea of like humor, how humor got got me through like different things like that and being...

Speaker: It's like, well, no wonder I'm a smart ass comedian. Like that was my defense mechanism even there. Like, how do I, how do I become a mem- like a part of the team? It was like through through humor a little bit. So I don't know, like the life lessons wise,

Speaker: um I don't know what I came came away with that. i do i do But I will say, like, oh, there's people in that in that situation that I admired. Like, even our coaches, we'd make of them. But, like, some of the coaches were, like, role models that I could look back and be like, I'd like to be like that person, you know, or stuff like that.

Speaker: I think... It teaches you that game in all sports, but this one in particular teaches you ups and downs and managing that because even you could your team can have a good play and you got fucking annihilated. Some blocker just like destroyed you.

Speaker: You have individual ups and downs and then the team has ups and downs and trying to put into perspective, like how do you how do you do that? How do you stay involved? which I think is a huge thing for kids in youth sports. A lot of them, they can't handle that unless they're top dog or or things are going really their way. They have to self-select out.

Speaker: It's important thing about sports, but I'd say that that was good one. Yeah, that's like sticking around. The thing you learn with the team is everyone, people are going to suck. Things are going to suck. Situation's going to suck.

Speaker: Are you secure enough to like kind of either A, pull people up and be like, all right, you know I'm still with you. Or are you going to quit because people suck? and And I don't know. Yeah, like you learn you learn about whatever you learn being on a team is is something that probably translates to almost any situation you're going to face in your whole life.

Speaker: you know I just didn't know back then the consequence of my behavior and my actions as much. I just didn't have that awareness. So I didn't know my effect on other teammates or on the situation overall. I just didn't have a good good idea about that.

Speaker: Yeah, which is probably an age thing. Like you just, yeah you're rarely going to be that mature enough to like understand how that affects you. Yeah, I think I'm kind of saying the same thing. It's like whether you, how you're affecting other people, how you're being affected, you wish. It's not that I don't, I want to say that was an important part of my life. It's more like, I wish I would have known that.

Speaker: and I don't know how to say it, honestly. It's like, I don't know if i want to say everything's okay or it's it's not it's a big deal, but not a big, which is almost anything in life. It's like, it seems like a huge deal, but it's not because the world just keeps on turning.

Speaker: Shut it down. No, just kidding. Unless it's cancer on your neck, guy. no Episode number one with cancer. Actually, we've probably done a lot of them because this thing's been on my neck for like a year.

Speaker: But legit, I can put in the title, Matt has cancer. Yeah, I bet you that gets, uh, it might, that might, we might go viral with this piece of shit. That's a sad world if we do.

Speaker: Now go get me one of them S's. What's that spell? Toss. It doesn't stand for anything.

Speaker: You feel me, motherfucker? P to the O to the S, you know. P to the O to the S, you know. P to the O to the S, you know. You stupid motherfuckers outta know.

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