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Speaker: When I use an outhouse, I get nervous to see what's inside. Sometimes it's a real mess, but I always force myself to stare at the contents of the bowl. I never turn away. world is changing. can say anything want.
Speaker: You can't stop me. You can't cancel me.
Speaker: I blame it on my mental health. It's just comedy.
Speaker: I think the new thing is to is to do the pre-show on air. Like you're just fresh and fun. Yeah, I don't mind it. I worry about what you'll say because I'm always worried about what you'll say.
Speaker: ah Why don't we why't you pick it up, where you what you were just saying? You said protein and fucking plastic and bullshit. That's what we're going talk about. Yeah, we'll talk about a little rage bait, a little click bait bullshit, little plastic maybe, little protein. The the protein thing is funny, and and this idea came to me from ah our boy Tyler, who sent me a picture of... ah Fucking Raisin Bran.
Speaker: Coming out with, you know how in the grocery store they sort of have special displays? Well, they've got a special display at whatever grocery store he was at for protein Raisin Bran. Fuck yeah, dude.
Speaker: Injected with more protein. That has to be peak protein right there. You know who makes Raisin Bran? Your dad's old company? Yeah, that mansion you talk about.
Speaker: Provided by Kellogg's, yeah. Wow. I don't know. Who do you blame on that? They're just like, yeah, fuck. Guys like you, probably. I blame mostly.
Speaker: Well, I'm just saying they're like those people, you know, in the those corporations are actually kind of behind the trend. Usually like they didn't like Kellogg's or General Mills or any of those fuckers aren't going to they're not going to lead a trend. I'm like, oh, let's let's do a keto cereal or let's do a protein cereal or let's do creatine's big. Like they're behind the trend usually. I'm like, like maybe you blame them for being like fucking sheep.
Speaker: But they're not like the protein craze is like, Kellogg's didn't create it. Yeah. They're just like, ah, our cereal and processed foods getting hammered everywhere we look. So we need to like, we need to get involved.
Speaker: Yeah, they're going to capture the dumb middle for sure. And those folks will be like, yeah, protein. I wonder if, I mean, if you're going to blame it, if you took the other side of it, if you're going to blame them, you'd be like, why, why don't you fucking put nutrients in your cereal or your processed food for for the last hundred years? Or at some point they stopped. They probably, it probably was like normal food for a while.
Speaker: and and so the other thing would be like oh why did it take this trend of people to be like hey humans need protein i will say dude i this whole the whole like i i get caught up in it too i mean ah but uh the whole idea like old people like everything now is like heavy weights they should be lifting heavy weights and that's that's longevity and you think any of these old like my fucking grandma lived to 100 you think she was doing power squats her like you think she's ever seen a weight room in her whole life Or these Japanese women that lived there like 115 Costa Rica. There's a Costa Rican guy is the oldest guy in the world. He lives like out in the peninsula where you and I are going to build our compound.
Speaker: aha And you think the dude's fucking like, got to get my butterflies in today. Got to get my CrossFit in. So I don't know if it's Huberman or one of these fucks. Somehow they took over.
Speaker: Um, The definition of health, because it used to be exactly what you're talking about. The people that lived in these zones where they could eat basically a balanced out ah diet and and have some exercise here and there.
Speaker: But I think this protein craze and and all this weightlifting bullshit has come because of a real like. dichotomy to use your favorite word of sitting on your ass and staring at a screen versus like panicking and feeling like you better do something to compensate for that behavior and and that's probably what's happening i think a lot of it's good i don't i'm not quite as anti like even huberman as you are i think it's good because we've fucked up mankind like we're just not maybe we're evolving but uh
Speaker: We're not, we're not, we're probably not meant to like, we haven't evolved that much. Like you're talking about what we've been in the, the, current the way we live right now sedentary lifestyles is what we're 50, 60, 70 years into it So I think we fuck like humans, their bodies really, we're not, our bodies aren't meant for the way we're using them right now.
Speaker: So these people are like, well, with the, with the, the, the modern lifestyle, something's got to change. ah Conceptually that makes sense. But when it comes to bear with top heavy middle-aged men with fucking giant arms, I don't see that as being a productive.
Speaker: Yeah, like a Jim Meathead. Yes. Right. Yeah, I agree with that. And I don't see putting protein in Pop-Tarts, which is happening. They're putting protein in Pop-Tarts, protein in lollipops. I'm not sure I see that as productive.
Speaker: I don't think, if you like Huberman, la or some of those people are... They would be like, you should never eat a fucking Pop-Tart. Like adding protein to it or like it's never, it's never going to be good because this is a pile of shit. you leave a Pop-Tart out on the counter, like if I would have left it out on my childhood and I was getting for free, it probably would be fine. It'd still be on the counter from 1985. Looked the exact same, you know.
Speaker: I think that, I mean, i don't know, I do agree, that the trend of just like, eat eat real food, I follow that and i I kind of agree with it. But I think it's way simpler than like these kind of active, eat normal shit that that that looks like normal food, and that's probably fine.
Speaker: Yeah, of course. Of course. I just think our society embellishes. And get 12 grams of protein for every, every, but every, just kidding. I don't know who said we needed more protein in America. I'm not sure.
Speaker: i doubt that we do. I doubt that we do. I mean, look at our eating habits in general. I think mass quantities of meat. I'm i'm not sure who's missing protein. A lot of fortified stuff.
Speaker: It's dumb. I'm just going to say it's dumb. yeah i i mean also i don't know i mean like people probably think oh you say this because you're not ripped someone who's like extremely ripped guy or girl just bulked up to me looks terrible i don't want to say terrible but it's a look that i'm just like what are you doing you know and uh like maybe maybe that guy needs more protein to maintain that or that girl yeah but he definitely does he definitely does But putting it in this like you're being healthier and longevity and a better life, that seems like a but a load of shit.
Speaker: I saw a dude jogging the other day, and and he's once in a lifetime sort of body. In the old era, he's once in a lifetime body. I'm i'm saying he was chiseled.
Speaker: To the degree of a superhero in one of those superhero movies, freakish abs just ripped corner to corner on his body. Is that guy from?
Speaker: Common sight. Yeah, that's a common sight now. So these these fucking people are doing something interesting. They're not eating Raisin Bran, that's for sure, but they're definitely going all in.
Speaker: I don't know if they're going to get any pussy with that. Or as you say, trim. I think they are. think they are because that that image is like... Is that the thing? but If asked my ex-wife, or she's still my wife, but if I asked my ex, like we talked about it, and some dude was like remotely buff, she would be like, God, that's that's so disgusting.
Speaker: Maybe she's just being nice to me. But but ah but she but i don't i don't I think that you know people have different types, different tastes. so But I haven't met too many women... that are like, oh I love a guy with ripped, crazy abs and huge, like, I mean, I just don't, haven't met many people that are like, yeah, that's amazing. Maybe like decent abs, like fit.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's a compatibility issue at some point. So those guys are often with equally ripped and absurd looking women. And that's great. There just don't seem to be enough of those people to pair now. And I don't know many women or many men for that matter that want to pair with somebody extremely different than them from a body perspective. Yeah. which is why I'm no longer attracted to a 24-year-old chick with the perfect young body.
Speaker: Yes, I could envision myself hitting and waxing and tapping, but I know that I couldn't sustain that attraction. And part of it's just realizing what's reality. So I don't know if normal women want to really pair up with superhero jacked, chiseled MF.
Speaker: Maybe like ah it's a protection. You like feel like you feel kind of protected. You're like, I got this big ass guy. I mean, like, what about a guy that's just big, like an NFL lineman?
Speaker: Different, like totally different. Yeah, they're actually natural. They just came out of the womb big as fuck. I think people like that. But I mean, it's more about like what behavior is behind this look?
Speaker: What am I going to have to deal with as a partner to somebody like that? I think that's probably the biggest barrier. Not that the person is attractive. It's just more of like, what is that MF doing to look like that? And how could I ever have a place in their life?
Speaker: I mean, that for that guy, creatine is more important than fact yeah sex There you go. You said it. Yeah, I think it's like a it's it's a self and it's like you they're all there're I don't know. I mean, um I could go either way. but It's like a guy with a nice car where you're like, oh, that guy fucking... But maybe the guy just likes cars. Maybe the guy just likes being big. But it seems like maybe an in insecurity thing that they're like overcoming. And it's more about like them overcoming than being like, oh, all these women like this or something. There's something else going on there. But I'm sure there's a few of them that's like, no, I just like working out i like being big. and
Speaker: Sure. I'm talking about the just extreme chiseled dudes that like that existence, it doesn't fit with the society we live in at all. Like there's no chance that you can be normal and maintain that body to type. There's no chance because you're pretty ripped for a 50 year old.
Speaker: You think people like like like overweight middle-aged men, they're like, what about you? Not Colorado, probably, but yeah, I mean, I like ride my bike and I work out a little bit every day, but there's nothing like if I took off my shirt, I've got some rolls going on my stomach like a normal human being. And then I'm partaking in the beers and I'm i'm going to the restaurants. And then like this this person this type of person, you go out with them. If they were to indulge, then they got to go punish themselves at home or in their workout the next day. I'm just saying that would be hard to live with.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. I think, well, I don't know if people have to worry about that anymore. Like they're not pairing up. So they're just by themselves, managing themselves. True that. He's just working on different butt stuff now. Yeah.
Speaker: I think it's almost like that guy's probably been around. Meathead ripped guy. I don't know. It's almost like you're not even describing meathead. To me, meathead's little bulkier. You're talking about excessively ripped, almost like to the a female worry of of what do you call Vanity or like what we might might have criticized a woman who's like so focused on their looks and getting work done and shit. Now that's there's men like that as well. Well, man the the bot is extreme chiseled.
Speaker: like extreme chisel bodybuilder level level chiseled. And I see it way more now is what I'm saying. So something's going on. yeah i i think there's I was just going to say, like there's ah not on that like beauty scale, like women have always been addicted to beauty.
Speaker: and ah But well like men are now there's like women that are super jacked and ripped and like where you're like, what is going on, dude? Huge shoulders, abs.
Speaker: Huge fucking weird ass. Like that seems to be a trend where women are like, I got to, I got to get my 40 hours a weekend and 900 grams of protein. and Really shredded arms, like really shredded. And I don't know how you approach a woman like that, especially downstairs. Like, what do you expect?
Speaker: Chafing? Like there's got to be some chafing down there because of all the hard work. i wish we I wish a listener would who who's into that would let us was weigh in, you know? What's it like? does How does that affect your your female anatomy?
Speaker: ah I mean, i'm i'm not i don't know if I'm vain. i am I feel fat. If I'm slightly overweight, I feel fat, and it bothers me. So I don't know if I can point fingers that much. Like I couldn't get ripped. Like I wonder if I actually could get ripped. I don't have the body type. If it would become addictive. You could, but you're not neurotic and fucked up. Why do you think I could?
Speaker: I mean, there are people that are more ripped than others and I'm not one them. too fucking normal to even know the extent that these people are going to. You you are too normal. You're not, you know, stalking chicken breasts. You're not waking up in the morning eating three chicken breasts.
Speaker: going out and doing 14 sets of squats and then followed by like 150 box jumps just for one body part. You know, you're not doing crazy shit.
Speaker: i'm I'm happy though you think I can get there with some work. I think all of us could probably get there with some work, but that's not the point. It's just, there's more of it going on, particularly the big upper body for middle-aged men is really happening. So there it's the testosterone perhaps, or the the protein and creatine and all this shit. uh i just it's it's just it's concerning i think i do i do listen to human labs there's a lot of a lot of interesting stuff on there and i don't think he'd be an advocate for this sort of rip uh he is that that's what he does no not for not to get bulked up so like he's too strong well just healthy like what he considers like a healthy lifestyle have you seen this motherfucker dude do you actually looked him up
Speaker: Kuberman Labs? I listen to it. I mean, but I've i've heard him have people on there talking about, like, mental health, sleep, all this stuff. But he does talk. i i heard him talk to this woman about... Have you seen his picture, bud?
Speaker: He's not that big. He's not, but he's one of these... He's chiseled as fuck, dude. Just go look at him. Look at his shoulders. He looks like he he's he shrugged. I don't know this morning. He shrugged dumbbell 100 pound dumbbells seven sets of 60. I'm gonna get on it, dude.
Speaker: What's his first name? Andrew See you're taking advice from this dude and you don't even know what he's trying to sculpt you into He's trying to make you look huge and then he's bad to women too, by the way.
Speaker: He's terrible to women. Now there's a lot stories about him, man I've seen the clickbait I mean, this guy, I'm not, I don't think this guy falls into what you're talking about, though. Oh, he does, He's he's our age. It looks like he's exactly 50.
Speaker: He does fall into it. but Wait, you're like, is that a real picture? The one where he's like got a beard and he's carrying a rock around? He's completely jacked? Is it a real, what do you mean? Is it like AI?
Speaker: It's a real picture. Sure. mean, he's all about all that shit. He's all about, uh, rucking rucksacking or whatever you call it and bouldering and deadlifts and squats. He's, you know, squatting 700 kind of guy.
Speaker: Rucking. Yeah. Rucking's fine. Rucking. Yeah. Right. He's, he's a big dude, yeah but ah it says, I mean, the, the thing I would, I don't know if i criticize, but about most of these guys, And if and you if you ever go online, like yeah on social media, it at the end of the at the end of the road is always an advertisement for ah for a supplement.
Speaker: And so I think it's a pretty amazing marketing thing. Like they become these gurus of health and then through that, they just sell the fuck out of supplements with their name on it. yeah And that is crazy.
Speaker: That's good, right? That's a good thing. I'm just saying, it it's like, It clouds the, it clouds the, uh, their image. Yeah. They try to walk on that. There's another, there's another guy that, uh, something, Paul, somebody, and they try to, they'll, they'll put content out there that'll, that'll lead you to believe that they're just, everything is possible. It's not just a supplement.
Speaker: So it'll be like, Oh yeah, you should get nine hours of sleep or something. And then, but at the end of it, there's a supplement that's like, Oh yeah, they got me. yeah data again Yeah, it's bad. Yeah, let's shift gears.
Speaker: Let's go to rage bait, click bait. ah Yahoo Finance is is fucking me. i don't Can you tell me what that is first? It's the... Rage bait, click bait. It's the type of article. It's the type of headline. It's the type of content.
Speaker: that taps into our threat response. A lot of people a lot of people bring up, i don't know if you agree with this, but they're constantly bringing up, you know, in our our ancestors, when we were in the wild, we were on a heavy threat response and we we were constantly looking for things that would kill us.
Speaker: And we're still living with that biology, but the world has changed. And so we need to figure that out. That's kind of the thing that people always bring up. They must be right because I'm always on Yahoo Finance and the darkest headline possible I go to every time.
Speaker: It's like Michael Burry, you know, Michael Burry is i predicted the... Yeah. Great recession in the housing crisis anyway. And he's a Michael Burry says we are at the top of this complacent market. And I'm like, click, read. And then it's just some dipshit rambling on with a small quote of what Michael Burry said yesterday.
Speaker: ah in his sub stack and i'm like yeah it's always like kind of not it'll be like heat yeah water might be a thing something that's like what they capture and you're like oh okay michael burry says water is that was at the end of the big short where he's like he's now trading water but but like his thing will just be like it'll be like hey what's the palantine or one of those ai companies that he'll be like michael burry says he's they're gonna bury And, but it'll just be like, yeah, they're, they had a good quarter or something. That's his quote. You're like, great. Right. Yeah.
Speaker: It's yeah. i know what you're talking about. So, but is that rage bait or is that just, again, call what you want, but is that just like modern, modern marketing? it's all in the same category.
Speaker: It fucking works. works on me. Like the list. Oh, yeah. Top five stocks for, yeah. It really works. one One podcast that has gone viral, and I've mentioned it before, it's called I've Had It.
Speaker: And they have a news segment. And I just want to give you So these are the headlines. Trump slammed by Obama. An insider's leaked secret between Stephen and Trump in private.
Speaker: The last one was Trump scrambling like crazy after devastating night where he, whatever, had to switch planes. I mean, everything is... an absurd headline oh yeah that's but overly enticing.
Speaker: It's like telling somebody, dude, last night your mom was bent over at McDonald's and it's like very sensational and very absurd. And and we're we're constantly clicking on stuff like that.
Speaker: That's one version of it. Dude, your mom your mom showed her tits to me and my friends last night. You would listen to that, wouldn't you? Would you click on that article? Well, I think that it would be like, you're not going to believe what happened to your mom at McDonald's. Okay, whatever whatever the right title is. But it's everywhere, and it's hard to avoid. On the finance side in particular for me, I continue to do it. And now, just like you said, with the protein hawkers and the body-shaping hawkers, now in in every article –
Speaker: like a link to like whether it's gold or some custom sector ETF that they're selling is hidden in there. ah Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker: I mean, there's some good info everywhere. That's that's part of the problem I have. Like there's even with with, you know, finance stuff, there's good info in there. Health health concerns is good info in there. i just have and the hard thing is there's such so yeah if you get over that because that's not gonna go like that's just the way people market stuff online i mean that's like an extension of advertising too or like the news they'll be like weather coming up in five minutes could it rain tomorrow and then they'll go to the and then they'll go to the uh like that that's not necessarily new it's just more annoying now could matt's mom show her tits at mcdonald's she might maybe she already has
Speaker: Back on nine noons at five. Bent over at McDonald's. Yeah, but ah are you're not trying to defend this shit, I hope. I mean, it's just, it's not a great way to build a sane society.
Speaker: No, i but i it's sort of a progression of ah of what's been happening for a while. it's just way more worse and way more obnoxious. And i think it's it's potentially dangerous. Like the the health craze, you know, and the supplement craze. and Like even people talking about red meat is way better for you and butter is way better for you. than And then it's like, I don't know if they're right or not, but it's it's potentially dangerous. Like one side has got to be potentially dangerous.
Speaker: Versus what, though, is the question. Like when when we come up with these bombastic claims, I mean, you know, it's always... What you mean versus what? It's just hard to decipher. I mean, I don't want to get into it, but like butter is good for you. In comparison to what?
Speaker: In comparison to quinoa? No. I'll listen to them because no, not quinoa. No, but like, uh, okay. Crisco or, or, or margarine or something like that But we already knew that I thought like, yeah, but so we've spent third from our childhood up.
Speaker: I like, I remember like my grandparents with heart problems and they'd be like, Oh, the doctor said no more butter. Look at this. We have, they have like something thing called like, talk I don't remember what called. One of those imitation butters.
Speaker: ah You're like, that's what's been told us that's a better way to go. And I'm like, probably not. It's like the marketing was also shitty for a while. i don't But I don't know if that was negligent or just like people thought, oh, well, butter's bad. We're going create something that's not. Or like sweet and low or some of these things that were were built in some fucked up laboratory and people like, no, natural honey is better for you than eating that imitation shit. So there's a lot of that shit out there. yeah okay but then that bleeds into like well meat is healthier for you than uh i you know all sorts of shit and you're a like well maybe it's right because i don't i don't really trust the other shit that was like made you know i don't know just hard to decipher what what react what's actually good for you but when i come back to what you ripped on me about is like just your own personal feeling like how do you feel if you're on this diet or that diet or working out or not
Speaker: Yeah, the diet's one thing. I mean, I just think, I just look at, if this continues, where will we be? As we've said before, the online world is this insane world where nothing but horror and terror persists, and we're navigating it and falling into like these...
Speaker: hellish rabbit holes and finding ourselves like exploding and and anxious and having pathologies and shit like that. But like, if you are to believe what's on there, you're going to be a mess. And so what I don't like is now, if the crazier you are, the more batshit stuff you say, the Nazis were actually the good guys or whatever. Now you're platformed on major shows and you're actually getting airtime in major media shows because they need to play this game as well.
Speaker: And it could be any number of extreme viewpoints. And and even with the Republican side, this this whole concept of vice signaling, I'm gonna tell you that I've done some really bad things in my life. Used to be that you wanted to be pretty clean as a candidate.
Speaker: And now you want to show that you at least, you know, had an attempted rape or some really horrible thing so that people will be like, okay, he's he's normal. Yeah, he's a guy get behind. He's normal. Everything is getting skewed in an odd way.
Speaker: Is that like how he cleaned up his act ah good for him? Like... Or is it just like, ah he's one of us? I just think it's a weird trend. Maybe ah it flies in the face of traditional liberal politics where you know you want to be careful about what you say and you want to be inclusive and thoughtful.
Speaker: i don't know. I don't know. But it's just an example of... Everything that's out there, and you and I haven't scratched the surface on the sick, twisted things that are happening on the internet. We don't get exposed to that. Everything from what little girls and little boys are doing on the internet to their bodies, anti-aging shit for little girls that are 12 years old are buying anti-aging products and cream. you know Boys are cracking their jaws and doing stuff. I don't know how many people are doing that, but the fact that that's out there and people are ingesting it as... as ah
Speaker: possible behavior. It goes in a much more extreme way. It's right in line with this protein thing. On all of these trends, like the anti-vaxxing, I throw in that bucket as well. A lot of panic behavior, panic behavior.
Speaker: And I fall into it on the finance side. I'll just be be blunt. if and If somebody says the stock market's going to crash, I'm clicking on that shit. yeah i i think it's fun mean i fall into it a little bit just because the health thing for you i don't know like weird like weird natural remedies i'm a sucker someone's like ginger and lemon and fucking i'm like okay good i'd rather do that than anything else you do that in in lieu or in like in place of a statin or something like yeah
Speaker: Are you like if if you said you you're pretty you you don't really have a history of heart disease in your family or you don't have it, but would you rather just take a statin or like a lipid, I think, or would you rather try to find another solution?
Speaker: If I need a statin, i'm going I'm going to have to take it. But like if if it's like, a hey, you have a risk factor, I'm probably looking for lifestyle changes and other things to to sort of protect me. But if the doctor's like, look, man, yeah, this is something you need. I'm not going to ignore him.
Speaker: Yeah, and I think most doctors are probably like ah a um like a ah a doctor practicing. is not necessary i would hope the doctor's not like, well, fuck it. Like trying to get as much medicine as possible.
Speaker: Like you would hope the doctor be like, You can do this statin because you're at at a high risk, but what you really need to do is change your lifestyle, you know, and or or something like that. But they might be like, you can change your life. For some people might be like, you can change your lifestyle and eat all the garlic, lemon, lemon juice, ah yeah ginger you want. your Your family history is this.
Speaker: And I would be like, ah, that sucks. i'm I'm a slave to this fucking pill for the rest of my life. That would suck. But I think sometimes you'll, you and and many others in the world will look at doctors as if they have some hidden agenda or something. thing Yeah. I'll tear your motive to like, just flood you with medicine and intervention. And like having worked with a lot of physicians and a lot of care providers, it just, it's not what they're about.
Speaker: It's not what they're about. It's not like, Oh, let me take the easy way out and provide this guy a high risk, controlled substance or a statin or whatever, let me let me take the easy way out and shove this down their throat.
Speaker: when When doctors and the medical community recommends a vaccine, it's not because they're like, yeah, yeah, we wanna dupe this country. it's to truly protect protect them from what was a devastating illness well i think that someone would go well they're they're at the whatever they are they're tied to the pharmaceutical company yeah someone named matt yeah i get it no no and i don't i got vaccinated like i Like, I know Fossey, is it Fossey? Fauci. Fauci's under attack by that crazy fuck from ah Kentucky.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. Josh Hawley? No, no. Fuck, the guy with the fucking weird name. McConnell? No, I don't know. No, no, no. You know I'm talking about? he He's like a libertarian, I think. He's not even- Oh, Rand Paul. Rand Paul, yeah. Isn't he like having having a Senate hearing?
Speaker: or Or some shit with saying like fosse Fosse facilitated COVID by like donating money to wilhand the Wuhan facility or something like that. Really? I know a lot about it for not listening, huh? That's like as deep as the the headline that I got.
Speaker: But i worry i want I worry more about... like Either way, like let's just say a vaccine was good or bad. Let's just say they came out and like they found out a vaccine really is bad. And now you would never know because it's been politicized. Like if the measles vaccine, they said, ah, it actually causes cancer. You would never know what's real or not. Or if it really is good for measles. Now you have doubt in your head because there's people out there being like vaccines are from the devil and and these people are trying to make money. Like it's hard to it's hard to take a side now if you listen to anything.
Speaker: Yeah, get it. yeah It's not hard for you. You're just like, no, all those other fucking people are nuts and they're just creating, i don't know what, but right? Well, in large part, yes, because i don't physicians aren't phoning it in, right? Most large organizations that a lot of them are all under an umbrella company now, and they all have a physician director of quality who uses evidence-based approaches to determine what is clinically viable and there's efficacy for Lots of thought goes into making these choices for people. It's not this willy nilly thing. Yeah, we'll just pump them with the mumps vaccine. no it's it's It's logical and thoughtful. ah That's all I would say.
Speaker: Have physicians, had did Fauci you know make a claim early on that turns out he got new evidence and had to change? Yes, that's part of science. ah Yes, they have they made mistakes? Are there medical errors?
Speaker: Is the system fucked up? Yes. but i just um But the intentions in my mind are not to dupe society and make you unhealthy. I also like it's scary, like whatever the guy did, Fauci, like if if you remember back when we were in the in the pandemic and if they're held accountable, like where they're going to be blamed at fault at the end, what you're really creating a situation where it's like, why would anyone make any decisions? Right. Because you're like, yeah. Why would i give any medical advice?
Speaker: Yeah, you're like, oh, so i'm i'm gonna if I do anything during this pandemic, I'm going to have this fucking Rand Paul try to throw me in jail. Right, right. And like I'm to the point where like if you don't believe in that stuff and you're one of these Maha, MAGA people, you just might have to suffer the consequences of those choices.
Speaker: And I said before, there are people that I know almost died from COVID by not getting the vaccine. We can play counterfactual, which is my new favorite word, all day long and say, well, even if he had even if somebody got the vaccine, they might have still died. um Or maybe the vaccine would have caused them to have long COVID or whatever.
Speaker: We can do that. If you want to play this game, it's likely that some area in Idleapica State, Arkansas, they're going to have a huge problem with measles or or some disease that we eradicated or some other issues medically.
Speaker: People have a ah weird memory because it's like the side flip. You think about there were there was all like Trump and his Operation Warp Speed or whatever. Get the vaccine out. And then when did it change? Like who? And then it it just literally became just a political thing. it was like, okay, Biden's in office. Fuck vaccine. yeah i don't know and it's like what both sides just flipped so that's where i'm like oh that's kind of scary like what the vaccine could have been fucked up or it could have been the only thing that saved humanity and it still was just politicized to the point where you don't really know what what to think like that's that's fucking crazy
Speaker: Yeah, and and these motherfuckers will, you know, put 20, 30 Zen pouches in their mouth a day and huff on a weed vape pen, but a vaccine is scary.
Speaker: I'm more worried about, I mean, I hear what you're saying. I'm more worried about if there is a fucked up vaccine, I would like it to be in the playing field to be like, well, somebody is is allowed to admit that and people are allowed to hear it. And so what what they've done is is made it so like you're really like, ah, like you can't really listen to anyone honestly that's what scares me yeah back to the clickbait then now i can tap your fear and confusion and i can get you to read this thing and to maybe buy said supplement that goes along with it or i can get you to buy gold lance because you're afraid of disinflation or you're afraid of the government printing money i can get you to buy crypto now by talking to you about all the bad things that can happen so it's cool it's fun i think it's great
Speaker: Dude, I've spent so much time in the last couple weeks, like, my my kids are probably like, shut the f- Actually, my son said it like, dude, I'm 12. I don't want to fucking- want to be able to sleep at night. Stop showing us this shit.
Speaker: And i'm like, yeah, because I've been, I've been, every time they get in the car and be like, we go surf, I'm playing a podcast about how AI is taking over or the, or like how, how the youth that's completely fucked, they can't think because they're addiction to phones and shit like that. it's great. It's like, fuck you. They're like, dude, every day we've been with you. We went fucking, we played basketball. We went surfing. It like, what else do want from us? Like, we're not, I can't watch a movie because I'm fucking drunk. But I, but I keep playing this shit for them because I'm like,
Speaker: I'm like, well, I just want you guys to know the world you're living in and what what's at risk here. And, you know, you can make your own decisions. I think everything will be fine. But, like, it's just so funny. I'm just i'm just more worried about, like, it's going to, everything's going to change. All of what you're saying is just going to complete. It's like nothing ever stops. It's going to keep getting worse. It feels great. The clickbait, the yeah the politicized thing. the And they got to deal with it. But maybe for them, it'll be fine. Because that's just the reality.
Speaker: It's like a normal thing. I don't know that it'll be fine if if you believe in our biology. I don't know that it'll be fine. Like my friends of ours- It's a change for us. For them, it's their their whole life has been this way. Okay, yeah. But then then what develops in their nervous system and in their lives because of it, that I don't know. But like they're weird things though. Like a friend of ours, their kid went up to college.
Speaker: The roommate doesn't go to class. just sits and trades on Kalshi prediction market stuff all day. Doesn't go to class at all. And does well.
Speaker: I know it's not your point, but like there's no way they do well, right? I have no idea. Maybe they go to class occasionally. it's I'm sure part of it's exaggerated, but I just think that that- How's that sustainable?
Speaker: That's a weird development. And maybe well go somebody will be like, well, back in our day, you know they just sat around and listened to Black Sabbath and smoked pot or something. I don't know. I have zero doubt.
Speaker: It's kind of like, I remember this in steroids, like steroids in baseball. few older players, like Mickey, I don't want to quote them, but Mickey Mantle someone- when people are criticizing the new players for for uh steroids that some of the older players were at least like you know they admitted like well of course i would have done it too like we're all trying to get an edge and to say that all these new guys are doing something that everyone is like so i have a feeling if calci or whatever it's called was available and we're in college it would have just taken over pretty quickly
Speaker: i We would have maybe effed with it a little, but I don't know. Would you be sitting at your desk? You like throw me against the wall? No, Matt, let's go play frisbee golf. No more. It's time to hack, bro. We need to hacky sack.
Speaker: ah Yeah, just things have changed, but i want to I want to spend some time shifting again to plastic. So I'm reading this book, Plastic Ink. I know you're really afraid of plastic. Like you have a deep fear of plastic.
Speaker: This book, buddy, Because it's all bullshit? No, we're fucked. Fuck, I was hoping you'd go the other way on me. No, we... Petroleum industry has... Drill fucked us? Well, they're reorienting themselves for the future of people burning less fossil fuel, but but they're maximizing chemical and plastic production.
Speaker: You love that, dude. From a business person econ perspective, you love that shift, that pivot. Pivoting, shifting... ah new verticals, new lines of biz. But no, I mean, people were worried about it back in the 50s and 60s. In fact, we got bottles of everything, Coca-Cola, of milk, all that stuff. Oh, yeah. Gatorade. Remember that was Gatorade bottles? And you return it to a bottler and the bottler would clean it and then the corporation would reuse the bottles.
Speaker: Still happens in Costa Rica, by the way. Oh, does it? Sweet. Yeah. So now it's fucking changing, but go ahead. Everything has changed. It changed a throwaway. And then people started to freak out in the seventies about plastic and the buildup of plastic. Okay. Where we're at relative to the the seventies is just, it's minuscule in comparison to where we're at right now in terms of how much plastic is produced. How much we produce. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, and the whole recycling movement was a total lie from a plastic perspective. They figured some of it out now, but most of what we threw in our recycling bins just couldn't do anything with it. So this industry is so big.
Speaker: You know, plastic is just going to be running through our bloodstream. My dad told me that once because at one but some big guy high up the ladder at whatever the waste company is in in ah Colorado worked in our neighborhood. He told my dad, a Republican, like, you're wasting your time separating shit. We all just throw it in the same place or or something like that. And then my dad was like, fuck recycling. That's all bull that's left wing bullshit. It's like it's not left wing bullshit. It's just because no one's doing it. But ah but I do agree with him, though. It was just there to make a couple of people feel good about themselves.
Speaker: and then nothing changed right probably even a charge they probably charge like a recycling fee or something like well to be clear aluminum glass and cardboard are definitely be recycled yeah recycled and they are they it's maybe not to the extent that we think but plastic is hard really hard because it's like mixed and there all these different like designations and levels of plastic and types it's difficult but the the industry the petroleum industry Just like they duped us or tried to deny climate change.
Speaker: They promoted plastic from the beginning as something that we could, you could recycle and reuse. Not true, bitch. Yeah. And there's like, uh, what, I don't know. There's like clean coal or they'll put like these terms on coal. Yeah, exactly. Clean coal. Yeah. Right.
Speaker: There's people that have like, I don't Those people were like, they have solutions. I think you're right about the power these people have now because there's people like, no, we have solutions. Like, so stuff that's like acts, looks, performs like plastic, but completely biodegradable. Yeah. That stuff is out there. Yeah. Yeah. It's out there. just, it's, it's not gonna,
Speaker: See the light of day. It's going to be tough to crack through these these industries. And that's why I invest in oil. I mean, and when people ask me, like, what do you invest in? I have a lot of oil companies because I know they're going to dominate.
Speaker: They'll find a way. That's what i ah I believe. And that's why i put my money, folks. You invest in tenacity. Yeah. Absolutely. Real destructive tenacity. ah But yeah, it's just one more thing to be like, wow, we're fucked. So is the is the book a feel good or feel bad in the end?
Speaker: I haven't gotten to the very end. I'm sure there's some like solutions and it'll probably come to the same conclusion as that AI movie I watched that you told me to watch of like, just talk to your congressman. Tell him this isn't okay. Okay.
Speaker: Did you watch that? I did watch that shit. There is something about, and I think the plastic is the same way. There's this running advertisement on the CNN here in Costa Rica. It's like international CNN. And it's just some lady from some European country who's just showing piles of ah plastic rolling up on the ocean all this shit. And she's talking about, you're talking about the billions and trillions of tons. And and and she just looks so defeated.
Speaker: And like, that's how the AI, some of the AI people are like, yeah, we're fucked. And you look at him, they're like, oh my God, this guy's actually like clinically depressed and has given up. Like it's it's worse than anything you've ever thought of. People are like that about plastic.
Speaker: That is, this book will make that, you'll drive that home. it will drive right through your brain that we are fucked. You know, when I first came to Costa Rica, I remember I would like laugh and I'd ask my wife, like, what's with what are all these striped bags? and And like, so you'd always see people walking around these striped plastic bags. Well, people would just keep their plastic bag and like go to the store with it.
Speaker: They'd have like one bag, just reuse it and reuse it and reuse it. these Of course, like poor people. I was even for me. I'm like, I can't. How? Who does that? You know, just like so foreign to us where you just like throw shit away. I think the problem in the US, though, is the is the argument is like we have so much space.
Speaker: Who cares? Right. Well, that's what people would say. You mean in terms of the landfills? Yeah, landfills and just space in general. Like, I don't know if we're guilty. Are we, are we maybe the book speaks of it. Like, are we guilty of just dumping plastic out into the ocean?
Speaker: I'm sure. I'm sure we are. I think it's more, it's not only the production process that pollutes like crazy. The off gases for people living around it, it's sort of like, it's just not a... It's not a healthy operation altogether. And then the end product itself, itself if you're talking about single-use plastic, which is really what is most profitable and what these organizations really want in terms of increasing profits is for you to throw shit away and buy a new one.
Speaker: And it's what the world lives on. It's what the world lives on. And so that buildup, if if we continue down this path, and and obviously these are things that I don't know what the half-life is of plastic. I don't know when, if ever, if I can...
Speaker: decomposes. it It's so, what do you do with all that? Yeah, even that, if you go out and get it, what do you do with it? Like you get out of the ocean, what, you put on a rocket ship or something? or ah I don't know. And then the incineration process is like highly polluting and and terrible for the climate and the ozone. So all of it's kind of fucked. It's like the, at the end of the day, these oil-based petroleum products and any sort of burning of fossil fuels is just not going to be healthy.
Speaker: Dude, just remind something. Go ahead. Yeah. No, that's it, man. I'm just like, and the sad thing in one of the book, this book points out is again, poor people getting fucked. Like there's suburbs in Houston, right by these petrochemical plants where they they actually rewrit rewrote the law, I believe to like allow these companies to pollute more, you know, redefined what's healthy. And most other States have this like extreme, like, Nope, this is the low, very, very low level that we'll allow. And it's it's that kind of sad corporate gamesmanship, like whatever we can do to make more profits. That's what we're up against. That's what we'll be up against with respect to AI and robots and all that stuff is some maniacal fuck in charge who's just trying to maximize profits because the circle that that person is in, get they get validated by making more money for other rich people. Sorry. Sorry, poor's.
Speaker: I think you never have to see it in the US part of the problem. Even me as a business owner, like like no your plastic gets taken away and it never affects me. We did ship billions, I think billions of tons to China for a long time. I think they cut us off in 2018. And I don't know where we're shipping it now, somewhere, somewhere to like, yeah they'll sift through it, try to reuse stuff.
Speaker: Well, I'm just saying, like, if it's not floating down your street, like, on a rainstorm, like maybe that's what it would take to get people to be like, fuck this, what's going on? Like, like people in the U.S., the the white white suburban housewives and shit, will they'll freak if, like, there's pollution. They'll, like, organize cleanup events and stuff. But yeah that's the only time you get, like, normally single-use, tied fucking laundry thing. you put it You put it in the trash or wherever your recycling's gone, you never see it again in your life. it It has no effect on you. So you don't really have, like, a reason to care.
Speaker: Yeah, have you seen those Keurig coffee things? so Those are terrible, right? Yeah, one individual plastic thing that's used for three minutes, and it's just just hunk of plastic you just ditch. It's like, wow. And my mom used to use that. I just look at her like, you bitch, how dare you? You're not my mom. And they have the reusable one that you fill because they at least want alternative. But those are everywhere.
Speaker: One of my coworkers, I mean, I don't, I think he just liked the coffee, but he was trying to get those for office. And I was like, fuck that. But I was more like, were we're a company bringing in Costa Rican stuff. We should have a bad-ass coffee here, you know, not, not some fucking Couric thing. But, uh,
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. But I think a lot of people are just think it's nonsense. Like it's kind of funny. They think the plastic problem is nonsense. Yeah. It's not. It's. I know, but I'm sure, you know, people like that, right? Of course. All the, anything anti-business or anything where we, uh, expose the problems that actually really need to be fixed. That's like, Oh, you fucking woke pussy. Yeah.
Speaker: Don't you understand how business operates? What do you want them to do? You want them to shut down their doors just because you're worried about a little plastic coming on the shores of California? I want those companies, like if they're packaging companies, and I i did want them to make all the fucking money in the world, just be part of the...
Speaker: Like invest your money into a solution that does the same thing that's that's environmentally friendly and fucking good for you. like it Like they can do it.
Speaker: They have money. there are There are things that are way better than like just straight up single use plastic. It's like why don't you guys go ahead and do it. You know? you Yeah, there's just not enough people.
Speaker: Is that too pie in the sky? Well, no, because there's not enough people. where It's all about cost and it's all about consumer preferences. And I would say if, look at this keyboard, I'll show it to you. This is a keyboard. It's almost 100% plastic.
Speaker: Yeah, but at least it's least you're going to use it for a while. Logitech, it was probably 16 bucks or something like that. If there's some version of this made of like, I don't know, plant-based...
Speaker: whatever i'm not i have no idea that's like seven thousand dollars yeah it costs like 40 bucks not many consumers would choose that and i'm grappling with that i think that's changing though no i don't it the look at the packaging at your costco and as price pressure comes more on lower income people they're never going to choose an option that's better for the environment They're never gonna choose it because they don't have the money to choose it. So so me and Sarah, we're gonna go to Sprouts and maybe consider like bringing our own jars and getting bulk nuts and stuff that we we might do to to prevent all the packaging that comes in. But that that seems crazy.
Speaker: yeah That seems crazy to to a lot of people. Absolutely. People in the apartment complex that we're gonna pass on our way to Sprouts, ah they're not going there with jars, dude.
Speaker: Well, yeah I'm not saying it's 100%, but I think there are more products. What I worry about actually is more like there's it's being marketed now at least that people are changing, but it's like, are they changing? But I do think, I mean, I did yesterday. There couple cleaning products that that had some sort of like,
Speaker: a look of, they they talk about how they're pretty green, and I'm like, they're more expensive, but I just bought them. Now, that's the end of my research. They might, they're, but they're still, like, in plastic bottles and shit. Like, ah it's funny, too, back, a little bit of the conversation that's part of both, both sides, what we're talking about. All these fucking wellness health people that are anti- Processed foods and plastics and shit they're packaging all their fucking all their stuff is in pat is in plastic So you're getting like their their grass-fed liver jerky or some shit. That's like and if it's in a plastic bag, it's like you're just you're just marketing shit, you know yeah, ah so
Speaker: I don't know but I do think it's better. I mean, there's more options than when we were kids and there is like a growing, a growing population of people like you guys that are educated about it and do it. I know to your point, you're probably like, but for every to you and Sarah's, there's 20 people that don't give a fuck or at least just don't have the time or energy to or at least think they don't to to make a change.
Speaker: And that's what what your're what bothers you. Well, the industry would have to lead. Yeah. So people are competing in all different ways. And and like we're not competing to be the most environmentally friendly or the most sustainable. That's not the main driver. I think cost is will continue cost convenience will continue to be the main drivers. So we're fucked is my point. We're fucked with plastic. We're fucked with clickbait. And we're fucked with protein, man.
Speaker: Protein's going to come get us too. Big, big protein. Oh boy. The world is changing.
Speaker: I can say anything I want. You can't stop me. You can't cancel me. I'll blame it on my mental health.
Speaker: It's just comedy.
