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Caffeinated Tirades with Key Lee
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This week I welcome Key Lee back to the podcast as we discuss hate in the community. We talk about some of the recent hate we have seen across the sneaker community. How women in sneakers have been received and attacked when it comes to brands giving them flowers. How Key defends her friends and people that are close to her. How everything is connected to mental health and much much more!
Where to find Key Lee:
Socials: @Key2UrSole
Podcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/myfirstkicks
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Music by Gordon Bombay: https://thegordonbombay.bandcamp.com/... something and tell him we sent ya!)
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Transcript
Introduction & Episode Focus
00:00:00
Speaker
Let's get everybody, welcome back to my first kicks. This is, I don't know, I'm sorry, I forgot this episode number, so I'm just gonna introduce Keely. Keely, welcome to the podcast. Hello, welcome back. Welcome back to the podcast. You're right, you're right, you're right. You know, first time you were on, we talked about your journey and now you're back, because I wanted to do, bring you on for a kick talk, but this one's gonna be different, because I feel like we should be talking some shit this week. Yeah, that's crazy.
00:00:30
Speaker
I'm not gonna talk too much. I'm gonna keep it light. Just in general, because I don't get that outlet, right? Every time I bring somebody on, it's more about them. So usually when I bring somebody back, it's always like, yeah, we get the pow wow. We don't need no more.
00:00:45
Speaker
I don't need the introduction to you, you know? So, you know, first time, if you haven't checked out Keely's episode, please check it out.
Women in Sneakers
00:00:53
Speaker
We touch on MJ, we touch on- Yeah, we did. We touched on mental health. We touched on a good amount of things, for sure.
00:01:02
Speaker
And it was a great time. You also, you know, helped me get other women and sneakers on this on the podcast since then. And as I was trying to explain before we jumped in here, this basically I ended up just having women after women after women and sneakers this past week. And you're rounding out the fourth part. And that's why it's just like, yeah, you're rounding out the month. This is my women's month, women's and sneaker month on my first kicks.
00:01:24
Speaker
Listen, listen, but that's the thing. At least you're doing it outside of Women's Month because we shouldn't just want to celebrate women during Women's Month. So, you know.
Challenges in Inviting Women Guests
00:01:35
Speaker
No, yeah, I mean, I tweeted at the beginning of this year that I wanted more women on my podcast because when I look back and I'm like, man, this is a sausage fest, man. I'm like. Yo. Because it's interesting.
00:01:52
Speaker
I mean, we talked a little bit about my approach towards getting guests may be the downfall and why I haven't been able to get a bunch of women on, but at the same time, it's like, I'd rather just be like, hey, are you down? Tell me yes or no in the DMs, or just don't respond to my message. And if it comes through, it comes through. And if we're able to make it work, we're able to make it work.
DM Dynamics
00:02:14
Speaker
But as you've mentioned on your episode, now I just remember you being like, dude, stop being creeps in the DMs.
00:02:19
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, cause you know, it's all about how you approach people. So it's like, if you really want some professional type thing or whatever, like that's the way to approach because it is a lot of, it is a lot of widows in a DM sometimes. And I'm like, I don't got nothing for y'all, like at all. I mean, if people just got to watch your story to understand. I mean, I feel like I, I feel like I make it like,
00:02:48
Speaker
known that I'm just not interested. And, you know... At this point, I'm just
Respect in Sneaker Community
00:02:55
Speaker
like, whatever. I still got people that like flirt with me or whatever the case is, but I...
00:03:01
Speaker
That's all. I mean, I've always wondered, because I didn't get to ask you this on your episode. I don't really try to ask this on women's episode. But when dudes know they're like, or people of the opposite sex that are into you or whatever, it hits you up and be like, yo, you're into sneakers. I'm into sneakers too. What's good? Does that happen a lot?
00:03:25
Speaker
Not really like you're into sneakers, I'm into sneakers just because I feel like they go through my page to see like what I'm really about. But I will say I feel like
00:03:38
Speaker
And in a weirdest way, like I feel like, I mean, you got some men that are creeds, but I feel like a lot of men do respect me in this space. Because I feel like the type of collector I am is like, I don't just have, and no shade, but I just don't have Jordan ones and dunks.
00:03:56
Speaker
I got past 15. I have way older models that no one knows about. So I feel like when they see my collection, it's just like, oh, you wanted them ones. Yeah, I am.
Emotional Aspects of Sneakers
00:04:07
Speaker
I see you going to that story. I'm like, Jesus Christ.
00:04:12
Speaker
I don't know, I've never gotten to that point. I don't know if I'll ever get to that point unless Nike wants to send me 150,000 sneakers, I'm down with that. But it's just like, I always feel like I got, and I think I've messaged, or we talked about this once on Twitter or something like that, where I was like, I feel like when I get to about 160 or something like that, my brain is like, you gotta let some of these go.
00:04:36
Speaker
So when I see people with several thousands of hundreds of things, like I got a Morgan about it on his episode because he's like, because it's like it's just in my head. I'm like.
00:04:47
Speaker
I don't know if it's just my mom being like, oh my God, why you have so many sneakers? Or it's just like, I don't think I could, I feel like I feel bad for sneakers that I don't wear and they're just sitting. Not to feel bad, yo, I'm dead. I mean, but you know, sometimes I wish I had that mindset. Sometimes I'm like, damn, like some people, they have a cap. Yeah.
00:05:08
Speaker
And then here I am just like, oh, and another one. So I recently sold off some pairs in the beginning of September, and then I saw some pairs off last month. And it's just one of those like, I'm slowly but surely not being too invested in certain ones, especially if I know now that I can get them back. Like I sold off some ones where I'm just like, I could get those back because the market is down right now too.
00:05:35
Speaker
So if I feel like I'm not really losing anything and then I could just get it back, I'm just like, all right, I could let it go for now. I mean, I don't know. I feel like once it's gone, it's gone. So that's why I keep the ones, because I have a bunch of old SBs and I mean, you've been following me for a while now.
Managing Sneaker Collections
00:05:55
Speaker
SBs are my shit.
00:05:56
Speaker
I have a couple pairs of just like SBs that are separated and I made videos about it. Like my irons, my ghosts are separating, my ghost is jacked up. My ghost, like the toe is all jacked up. And so it's like, I look at those and I'm like, all right, I gotta get rid of some sneakers. But then it's like, it's the between the like 2003, 2004 sneakers. And then it's like the shit I'd be like, I bought a bunch of Sakai's and I'm just like, all right, now I gotta get, let me get rid of these Sakai's. But then it's also like, nobody wants Sakai's anymore.
00:06:26
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless it's like the, what, the first two pairs? Yeah, the two blazers. Yeah, those blazers, the fire. Yeah, listen, it's crazy, because I actually tried to sell it, and they really told me, like, yeah, like, no one's buying these. And I was like, all right, then I'll keep them. Nobody want them. I want them. No, yeah. That, I mean, it's just like, I feel like I'm going through this phase, because last year I bought, and you're going to be like, that's it? I bought 12 pairs of sneakers last year.
00:06:59
Speaker
And I looked, I was like, I was like, man, I'm running out of room. And then I was just like, I don't wear these, I don't wear these. And then I just don't, I moved them out of my field of vision. So they just sit in there collecting dust.
00:07:13
Speaker
And so I'm just like, nah, he's got to go. But then I'm also like, I got to get at least what I pay for out of him. And then people were like, nah, you're not getting that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a tough spot to be in for sure. Yeah. You know, I wanted to talk about.
00:07:30
Speaker
because this is the topic that came to my head. It's just haters in this space. Right. This is what the whole episode is probably going to be about. I think that I think when it comes to this, when it comes to sneakers, there is a it's
Validation & Influencers
00:07:46
Speaker
like people always feel like they need to validate you. Right. And so.
00:07:50
Speaker
It's like, it's never like you can validate yourself. It's never like on some like, it's always like, oh, who are you? Why you collect the sneakers, you know? Yeah, it's always like that question of, I mean, it's a thin line just because I think we've both seen that as just a lot of culture vultures. So it's like, I'm not mad when someone pops up out of nowhere claiming to be like this profound sneakerhead.
00:08:18
Speaker
and they get all these followers and they get all this brand work and everybody's just like, wait, where did they come from? Who are you? So I'm not mad at that just because I say all the time, sneaker has a soul gullible. You literally can have all the money in the world by a whole collection and say that you're into sneakers and no one's gonna question it. But then you do have the ones that feel like they are
00:08:47
Speaker
in charge of the culture, and it's just like, you're not. Like, I mean, I'm not big on gatekeeping, but as time is going on, I am starting to realize, okay,
Gatekeeping in Sneaker Culture
00:09:03
Speaker
Some things need to be called out, low-key. I'm big on gatekeeping. As you've listened for years. Yeah, I know you are. I know you are. I'm like, some things kind of need to be called out. Look, you know, how do I say this without offending people?
00:09:18
Speaker
Look, if you love something, you want to see it persevere in its best form. And I understand when it comes to something like this, where it's like, oh, everybody can do it, right? Then it's still like, the barrier of entry is literally just have the money and then you can get whatever you want. But when it comes to appreciation, when it comes to being in conversations, you gotta actually be like,
00:09:46
Speaker
All right, I'm for this, I love this, I wanna be part of this. Not like, I'm gonna play hopscotch with this, I'm gonna jump in, show that I like this, and then I'm outta here. Like, yeah. Yeah, it's such a tough space to be in. And for one, I don't consider myself a person that has haters.
Unexpected Features & Skepticism
00:10:04
Speaker
I've never really experienced
00:10:11
Speaker
I feel like you get a lot of people that envy you and it comes across like, like they'd be like, why? But okay. And then it's like, but it's the why part. So, and I guess that's my thing because I,
00:10:26
Speaker
Don't look at other people and acts. Let me, let me, cause I'm trying to use my words like so. You don't have to. I don't, I'm not a hater. Like I'm always going to give people their props. However, I do think in sneakers, we are seeing things that's like, you can see,
00:10:55
Speaker
Sneakers have been so gentrified. I'm gonna use that word. Sneakers have been so gentrified to the point where I feel like I know black creators that have done the same amount of work, same amount of like the quality of the work is amazing. They don't really get to shine, but then because it's gentrified, they get put up on this pedestal.
00:11:22
Speaker
And I'm just like, where are we going wrong? Like, what is happening right now? And then that's a conversation. We could talk about racism and sneakers or whatever.
Brand Recognition
00:11:33
Speaker
And people love to say, oh, it's not. Oh, everybody can't. No, it's clear as day that certain people, they're just going to go with someone that's more clean cut, that's not viewed as problematic.
00:11:46
Speaker
And that's what they're gonna go with. No, yeah. I feel like there's a little bit of loosen in the grip on that. Cause I mean, shout out to the homie Robbie. He was in that sneakers cult classics video. I mean, he's starting to become the face of like the DNA stuff. And I mean, he is himself.
00:12:05
Speaker
He is himself cuz I talked to him a lot so So but you know we're getting that part, but I get you know it's funny Cuz when I had carry on we talked about that like why is it that? the tick-tock kids are getting this like push right and I mean shout out to the homie Seth and and both you know Winona kicks Charlie like they both
00:12:27
Speaker
they get the brand deals, you know, and they get the clicks and they get the views and they have a formula. But if, say, we follow that formula, that formula doesn't work for us. It doesn't. It doesn't. And to sit here and make it seem like it's not a thing, that's what
00:12:42
Speaker
bothers me, but it's like, if you talk about it all of a sudden, it's like, oh, you're a hater. No, I'm not a hater, but at the end of the day, you just know. You just know when it's happening. So, you know, it's one of those things. But- Get pushed in the machine. That's the machine. Yeah. So I got a question for you. Why do you think people envy me?
00:13:02
Speaker
It's because when it comes to sneakers, I think one of the biggest thing when it comes to somebody getting something is instantly being like, why is it them? Oh, I wish I could be them. But it comes off as like, oh, why do you get to get this, right? So when you got, I don't know, I don't know, you can expand on this part. Because when you got the sneakers feature on the app, right? I'm sure people were like, who the hell is this?
00:13:28
Speaker
One thousand percent. One thousand percent. And you know how many times I had to explain that story of how it happened? It was definitely a thing where people were like, she has to know somebody or and I'm just like, I literally wrote something on Twitter. It gained traction. I was coming home from a drunk night out and a box was at my house. That's literally how it happened. And, you know, some people
00:13:55
Speaker
I don't know. And I think I don't like when it comes down to women, like when certain things happen for us, it's always just an automatic like, she must know somebody or she must be cool with some guy that's like. It's always some guy. It's always some, there's no guys.
00:14:14
Speaker
There's no guys. I don't know anybody. So I'm always just like, why can't things just happen just because the brand see me as dope? Right, exactly. I mean, you spend more than enough money with the brand for them to be like, yo,
00:14:32
Speaker
Hello? Hello? What are we talking about? Exactly. And then even after that, nothing has happened for me that was on that level of big. I got a seat about Joe. That was pretty cool. But I'm a regular degla girl. People be thinking I'm joking when I say that. I'm a regular degla girl. My social media presence,
00:14:58
Speaker
I'm a regular Deggo girl. I don't even know how much. So if people do hate on me for whatever reason, I know on Twitter though, there's a lot of people that don't like me. No, yeah. I mean, we could definitely talk about that. But I was just saying, when it came from the sneakers app, of you getting featured on there and then, were you able to get the, did Jordan Brand send you? Were you part of that, the women's Jordan Brand thing? Oh, no, no, no. But I was so happy that they, oh my goodness. Well, I wanted to say, because of Twitter,
00:15:26
Speaker
people were hating so much on that. And it's just like, for what? Just let people feel appreciated. Literally. And that's why I really wanted, when I made that status, I really wanted to point out that I'm
Authenticity in Collaborations
00:15:39
Speaker
glad that the brand did this for women that's not
00:15:42
Speaker
creators in a sense, because at the end of the day, you have women that don't want nothing to do with the creator world. They just love sneakers and they've been supporting a brand for years and years. The women that I saw getting seated, I
00:15:58
Speaker
I was so happy for them. I was so happy for them. So, yeah. It goes to the same thing with like any, like for Joe, like Joe sending out sneakers and you know, people get in pairs and immediately when people are like, oh my God, you know what got me so, cause this is gonna make me, what got me so upset was Squint, I mean, shout out Squint, I do like you. But like, the reason why I say that that way is because he hasn't been on an episode, sorry.
00:16:27
Speaker
Oh my gosh. So Squint made a video about the Joe Fresh goods and being like, if this was a GR, nobody would buy them, right? If a lot of collabs were GRs, no one would buy them. Exactly, it's such a bad take. That doesn't take away, and I like Squint together, right?
00:16:45
Speaker
But that doesn't take away from just the whole story like exactly talking about belly here like this is this is a classic like and the fact that you He had the real Keisha and what are we talking about?
00:17:01
Speaker
Whole rollout was, yeah. Bananas. I mean, Joe's an amazing storyteller. And the fact that he doesn't seed people that he thinks he's gonna get, that he's gonna sell the sneakers, like they're being like, oh, I'm showing this so that I can sell more pairs. He knows the sneakers are gonna sell out. Oh, he knows, 1000%. So he's just hooking up people that he feel tell stories that are authentic to themselves, because he's authentic to himself. And so I always loved that. I've never been a proponent of somebody
00:17:29
Speaker
who, I mean, my first, this is the first, I've got these for free. From the BMO. And, you know, I didn't receive any hate for it, but when somebody, like I don't have enough followers to get hate, that's probably the reason why. But when somebody, when I see somebody get a free pair and then they're like, oh, why do you get them? How come you get them? You got to know somebody and stuff like that. It's just like,
00:17:55
Speaker
Or maybe I'm just dope. It's that simple. It's also just like the idea of like, we spend a lot of money in this. This is a passion. But one thing that evolved in this hobby was posting it and posting it. And I think there's a difference between somebody organically posting it just to be like, yo, this is my fit for the day. I wanted to show it off. This is my social medias. And if it gets traction, it gets traction.
00:18:22
Speaker
What's misconstrued is that, not misconstrued, I feel like in the culture is that there are people that do it just so they can get the clicks, so they can get the free stuff. And it's like super bad intentions, but those people deserve the hate. Like, fuck that shit. But those are, you know, sometimes the people that look up to those people, because from the outside looking in is just like, oh, like, yeah, but you know,
00:18:52
Speaker
we're a space to be in. We're a space to be in for sure. Is there a moment where it's just like unwanted hate?
Online Criticism
00:19:01
Speaker
Like even if you saw from the sidelines that just like comes to mind of just being like, why? Well, not all the time, but it's definitely times on Twitter where I literally have to like,
00:19:15
Speaker
get off Twitter because I really sometimes just be wanting to blow everything up because it's like Especially like when it comes down to the whole mental health thing or whatever like and I kind of just and it's mental health month I kind of just want to put this out there. I don't like that because I have
00:19:37
Speaker
kind of made an audience, like I do kick in through mental health, all of that type of stuff. If I'm going back and forth with somebody, all of a sudden I'm a fake mental health lady. And it's just like, it's a difference between me defending things and me being just an outright bully. There's no one that can say that I am an outright bully. I had one incident when I told the girl that I would be her up.
00:20:05
Speaker
What was that incident? What happened? It was a long story. But long story short, it was just words being exchanged back and forth. We're from New York. It was something along the lines of SMD. That's a trigger for most New Yorkers. You say SMD like. Oh, it's on site. It's on site. So that's how I felt in a moment. But I did feel bad after because I'm just like, nah, I shouldn't be on here doing that. But that's the one thing that
00:20:34
Speaker
that happened where I like really came out of character. But other than that, I'm just like, why can't I have moments like, oh, why can't I defend my friends when I see that it's clear that people want to ging up on him, AKA Kari, like let's call it a buck, right?
Impact of Kari in Discussions
00:20:51
Speaker
Shout out to Kari. The things on Twitter that I be seeing, I'm just like, y'all wouldn't do this if it was anybody else. They wouldn't, but because you know he has a following, it's cool that if he blocks people, y'all can screenshot it. Oh, sneaker fetish block, like y'all know y'all get an engagement from that. What are we talking about? And then when I speak on it, it's like, oh,
00:21:16
Speaker
Oh, basically, like I just always like defend him or whatever. And it's like, I'm just gonna defend anybody that I see that it's clear that y'all feel like y'all can bully. Because no matter what people can say about him, no matter what, what he does bring to Twitter is dialogue and I would die on that hill. Twitter right now, cause God rest his mom's soul, it's cool. But where are these conversations where everyone is coming around and we're really like talking to,
00:21:46
Speaker
things that most people just don't want to talk about. And I'm really big on if you want your page to be just fits, post your sneakers, whatever, that's the type of stuff that you like, great. But do you have another side of Twitter that wants to talk about what's going on at Nike? We want to talk about things that's really happening behind the scenes. And people would be so mad at that.
00:22:12
Speaker
It's crazy to me. It's crazy. I mean, look, I've had my several back and forths with Kari, because that's the dog. But I don't necessarily come at him, which is why I feel like everybody has it. As soon as they feel encroached on something like that, they're just like, they're like, I got to go at him hard. Yeah. And then it'd be the name calling and stuff. It's like, just have an intellectual conversation. They can't. And if you can't, then it's fine. It's just easier just to think that you can bully him. Yeah. That's fine.
00:22:42
Speaker
Look, straight up, I will say he does have some moments where I'll be like, all right, I'm not going to respond to this. But then that's it. But you see how you do that and you don't respond. People can also do that, but they choose not to. And like I said, I think it's because, you know, he has a big social media presence that it's just easier to just he is really most hated on sort of like.
Twitter Dynamics
00:23:04
Speaker
Cause, and I'm gonna, oh, we gonna talk about it today. I'm gonna tell you that when it was a tweet that was made and it was like, Twitter has been like quiet lately. Whatever the case is. Then I saw some comments where it was just like, oh well, it's unfortunate, but we know why. Oh, I didn't see that. Who said that?
00:23:27
Speaker
I didn't even know to do, but it was just like, it's unfortunate, but we know why. Yeah, it's unfortunate that he lost his mom. And now he's not on Twitter or whatever. And now y'all feel like it's peaceful. Y'all could always block him. Y'all don't ever have to see his tweets again. It's unfortunate, but we know why.
00:23:45
Speaker
I'm like, why are you like? And then the boy that originally wrote the tweet, he had to do a QRT like this is not one of those posts where you're going to start doing your little hate train because that's what that's what it was becoming. Yeah. It's shit like that when I'm just like.
00:24:01
Speaker
You're not okay. No, you're not okay. It's I don't I don't I really don't understand it in my head I don't know cuz like I'm pretty hands-off with social and it's probably why this podcast isn't as crazy as should be but I don't know why I just big myself up that hard but but but it's for me it's cuz
Finding Fun in Sneakers
00:24:23
Speaker
My, and I've said this several times to anybody who talks to me and I say it online, I don't think the internet's real. And so because of that, I don't put in the effort, right? I don't put in the like, oh, I gotta, I'm gonna try this new concept of whatever. I'm like, no, I'd rather live my life. Do like, I find sneakers fun. Like to perfect example, we thought we, we, we, I think we had a back and forth. We may have not had a back and forth. I don't think we ever had a back and forth.
00:24:47
Speaker
No, no, I'm talking about, I think I responded or maybe I've, but we talked about Sneakers is Boring now. People are posting Sneakers is Boring now. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I'm like, I made a video. You see that video? I made a video, I said, who cares? I don't care. I'll be dead ass with everybody on here that listen to me. If you don't understand, this is what I'm saying.
00:25:13
Speaker
If I have to give you a reason to like sneakers, there's no reason for you to be in this. Like straight up, right? I don't care if you find it boring, cause I find it fun, right? And I'm going to talk to people who find it fun still, right? So if I'm having fun with it and you need a reason to have fun with it, then what are you doing?
00:25:34
Speaker
And I get it, right? Some people, they have creator's block. Especially if you're in this space and if you're used to getting brand deals and once that stuff starts drying up, then it's like, okay, where do I go from here? But that's why it's kind of good to just ground yourself.
00:25:56
Speaker
And sometimes you could just take a break. I'm big on taking breaks. If you feel like you are just creatively just out of it, take a break, regroup, figure out what's going on. But the whole sneakers is boring and there's nothing to talk about. That's crazy to me. What's up, y'all? So I'm jumping in this week's episode to talk about soul safe. It's a new mobile app that doubles as a hub for the sneaker community.
00:26:23
Speaker
You can do pretty much anything and everything that deals with sneakers from cataloging your collection or tracking the value of your collection or even getting their industry leading sneaker insurance, which protects you from basically anything like storage theft. And of course, you've heard it on here on this podcast, things like flooding and they launched a marketplace.
00:26:52
Speaker
for everyone to buy, sell, and trade. That's mad dope. So what's really dope about that is that there are no fees through the end of June. But what I love most about SoulSafe is that they are building for and with the community. None of that taxing or charging you to join, especially when you're just trying to add kicks to your collection or even do anything. Just join the community, plug in your collection, and tap in with
00:27:21
Speaker
soul safe So if you want to help the pod and please I know that you do because I know that you're listening use my promo code PPOQA5 or tell them my first kicks pod sent you when you sign up there will be a drop down or a click something that will tell you that
00:27:42
Speaker
how did you find or ask you, how did you find about this podcast? And there you go. But I implore you to do that because this is the start of something special and we are on the ground floor. So use my code PPOQA5 and tell them my first kick sent you. Because as we start building your collection or as we start building our collections on the app, we start building
00:28:10
Speaker
our community on the app. So make sure you put in that promo code and support the pod. But now, back to the episode. Right. It's so many things happening. Y'all just don't care. And I get it. If you have a certain audience that you feel like watches certain things, I get it. But if you expand your horizon and start doing other stuff, you can bring in new people. Exactly. That's how I see it. Yeah.
00:28:40
Speaker
A lot of y'all just aren't creative. And that's okay. But you just aren't boring. Yeah, you found your lane and now your lane is boring. And now you're trying to take it out on people. Like, get out of here. I mean, it's true though. And you know, I know when people see this, they gonna be like, oh my God, they're shit talking.
00:28:58
Speaker
I said what I said. But still, I don't shit talk on this podcast. But it's certain things that I feel like when you don't have these type of conversations, that's why the things happen the way they happen. And that's why things go the way they go. And that's why sneakers have been gentrified to the point where black creators, they aren't getting the shine that they deserve because no one spoke up.
Building Diverse Communities
00:29:22
Speaker
It is what it is.
00:29:24
Speaker
So I mean, you've seen and you've been around other black creators and I feel like I always try to make a little network of people like me. And but the thing is, and I've noticed this and I've said it to other people, but I haven't said it on here. But when I make it a room of.
00:29:40
Speaker
people of color, it doesn't work out for some reason. Like for some reason, maybe I'm just putting it around the wrong people, but like it's happened to me a couple of times and not just in sneakers, just like I had my friend, my original friend group, we were all like artists and photographers and stuff and we were all people of color. We got together, we're doing this in college and then eventually people just started being like, nah, I don't fuck with you no more. And I'm like, what the fuck?
00:30:06
Speaker
Like, what happened? So have this ever happened to you? Or have you seen this? Because one thing I really love about like AMP and RDC, like it's like, it's people like us, like, and they're together and they're working together and doing things that they love. And you could see that it becomes successful. But when I do something like that, it don't happen. Is it me?
00:30:32
Speaker
So has that ever happened to me where I was in a group of creatives or just like? Just a creative, I feel like, or even if you're trying to build a pro arrow or a future type of situation.
00:30:48
Speaker
Um, not really cause I'm in general, I'm just really like extroverted. So like I really take like my relationships like serious. Um, so the people I've met through sneakers, it wasn't like a group of
00:31:06
Speaker
Like we were all like creators in our own right, but it wasn't like a collective thing. It was just more of like, I support what you're doing, you support like what I'm doing. So I never really experienced that in that sense.
00:31:21
Speaker
I have been in situations where I was in a friend group and everyone just kind of went their separate ways. But not really like the real deal. Like someone just woke up one day and was like, I don't really like you. Like I've had people that I've been in group chats with that I do not talk to anymore.
00:31:43
Speaker
But, you know, shit happens. And that's a big thing too. I think that us as sneakerheads, we get so happy when we find other people that's just like us. But then sometimes we just got to realize that certain personalities just don't mesh. And the more and more I get to know people and I'm like,
00:32:05
Speaker
trying to like build friendships or whatever. I know exactly what I'm looking for in a friend. And if you can't be that for me, then no beef. But when I say I take my relationships serious, like,
00:32:24
Speaker
because it becomes to the point where it's just like, I wanna be around you. I wanna do more than just go to sneaker events. I'm talking to you about personal things that's going on in my life. I get that deep with people. So I even had to realize, I gotta take a step back because I realized that a lot of these relationships and sneakers are transactional. So it's hard for me sometimes. I mean, that's interesting. I don't know. I guess my logic of,
00:32:53
Speaker
I guess I've been hurt, wow. I'm about to say some next levels. I definitely have had like friendships that just delve into like I get let down. So I have a lot of reservations when I try to make, when I make friends. And so I'll tell you this, I'll tell you, cause you made me, you made me think about this one moment when we dealt with sneakers, dealt with friends.
Friendship & Hobbies
00:33:16
Speaker
I had this friend in high school and I'm not going to say his name cause I never want to give him any props after this. So,
00:33:24
Speaker
He put me on two SBs. I was in the sneakers this entire time. I just couldn't afford it. Graduated high school and I was finally getting, got my first job, right? So cop SBs. I cop my first SB and he was just like, yo, you should check these out. And then he was like, yo, you should get a pair of Melvins and blah, blah, blah. And this entire time I've been friends with him since 10th grade, right? So 10th grade on graduate and he's one grade down for me. So he's about to graduate.
00:33:52
Speaker
He gets it shorty. His shorty was like, oh, they're both in the sneakers, whatever. And then all of a sudden, he graduates. He texts me, yo, I can't be your friend anymore. I'm not in the sneakers. Wait, wait. I'm sorry. It's not funny, but is that why we work? I laugh at it now.
00:34:14
Speaker
Not text, aim. He hit me on aim. He hit me on aim like, yo, I can't be your friend anymore. I'm not into sneakers. That's interesting. So I guess my question to you would be like, was that
00:34:29
Speaker
a relationship where it was just sneaker talk or like all you guys were personal. We went to concerts together. He got me into music. Okay. This was like a friend friend. We were hanging out every day at school, after school, and then he got into sneakers. He put me onto SBs. Like I said, I was already in the Jordans, whatever. I was in the sneakers way before that.
00:34:54
Speaker
I grew up, but I talked about it a bunch of times here. I had to pick between video games and sneakers. And so I always pick video games, because video games last longer. So the video games, I would have one pair here or there or whatever. And people would be like, oh, shit. And then I kill them. And then that's it. So then finally get that job. And then we're friends. And he's like, yo, you should check out these SBs. And then I started saving up. And I got my first pair of Melvins. And then after that, he was just like, yeah, man.
00:35:21
Speaker
He was like, yeah, we can't be friends no more, Aimee. And I was like, what the fuck? And then he was like, yeah, I'm not into sneakers anymore. I was like, what the fuck? And then I just kind of like, I just haven't, I've never spoken to him after that. Like I never got like a full explanation. Cause I felt like that was some half ass shit. Like maybe his girls told him like, you can't have friends no more or some shit. Like, but I don't know. It's interesting. Damn.
00:35:46
Speaker
That sucks. And it's the wording of it. I'm not into sneakers anymore. I thought we were more than sneaker friends. We were going to concerts together and all this stuff. Interesting. I don't know if like...
00:36:04
Speaker
I don't know if that like, cause I don't, I don't want that. Obviously I don't want that to happen to me again, but I don't keep, I don't necessarily think I keep people at like arms distance. I feel like when I know you in, you in, you know, but my circle has become super small. So it's, it's hard.
00:36:20
Speaker
for me to make a new friend through sneakers. See, I have them now. Now this became becoming therapy. But I feel like I was thinking about this recently and I feel like 100 and 100 and some episodes. I think this is probably going to be 175. Right. And I feel like.
00:36:37
Speaker
There should be friendships coming out of this, but I don't think I've cultivated it. I feel like people are being like, oh, it's a show, I jump on, and then I sit. There's no, oh, let's link up or whatever, right? Outside of one or two people.
00:36:55
Speaker
So I don't know if, that's why it's making me think more about like, is it me? Cause like, if these networks I'm trying to build are breaking or you know, people aren't seeing this as like, oh, let's link up and do something beyond this podcast, then is it me?
00:37:12
Speaker
I think honestly, I think a lot of people are kind of feeling what we are feeling. I think that a lot of people, I know a lot of people that have felt like when they first started their pages or whatever, like everything was so community and so this, so that, but then as time went on, they felt like they was just getting burned by people. So it just naturally made them put a guard up.
00:37:40
Speaker
So I wouldn't say that as you, but maybe like the same way how you say that it's hard for you to just like make a friend. When people come on here, it's probably like the same thing for them. So I don't know if it's like.
00:37:53
Speaker
I mean, I guess it's a little bit transactional, but like, I think just in general, some people are just guarded. Yeah. Yeah. Is there, is there a moment, uh, in like your sneaker career where you feel like it was strictly transactional or somebody was just like, Oh, I'm going to be her friend. And then that's a good question. Um,
00:38:20
Speaker
I wanna say strictly transactional, cause for the most part, like all the shows and stuff that I've been on, like I still like talk to those people, whether it's, you know, just commenting on a story or a post or something like that. But I wanna say it's like strictly transactional, but I am very careful about who I, like I said, just get personal. Right, yeah. So yeah, it's,
00:38:50
Speaker
It's weird out here. It's so weird. And I be thinking it's me. I'm like, is it me? It must be me. See, that's what I'm saying. I feel like I have that same idea. Because this is why I wanted to make this the hater episode. Because of what I just said, all of everything that I just said, I was realizing I think I hate myself. I think I hate
00:39:16
Speaker
myself too much in terms of just like, why, like, why am I, why is this not doing better? Why is this not, why am I not putting this much effort? Like I'm, I have so much of this, like, too much of me being like, why am I not doing this? And instead of me being like, yo, you've done this, you've done this, you know, and I, and. Would you consider yourself an overachiever?
00:39:38
Speaker
No, I actually consider myself a perfectionist. And so if I if something goes wrong, so say if this like this episode takes me forever to upload or whatever or like to write me, I'm not going to be in my head because I didn't know which episode number this is. Right. So, yeah, OK. I'm like, yeah, you know.
00:39:56
Speaker
I'm already in my head about this, don't worry about it. Why? I'm just like, damn, certain shit, like, shit, I'm not how I said it, but it is what it is, I said what it is. Nah, you're doing fine. But like, the idea of like, I want this to be successful, right? Yeah. And.
00:40:15
Speaker
everything that I've done in my life, I've always been like, this shit is whack. So this is the only thing that I've ever been like, this is the stakes and this is on me, I need to make this work. And so- Now you're all in. Yeah, yeah. 50. I wouldn't say all in because I didn't leave my job for this yet.
00:40:42
Speaker
Like right now I will spend as much time as I need to to make this work.
00:40:47
Speaker
that means long nights and stuff like that. But once I leave my job, then I'll be like, yeah, I'm all in. I need to make this work. I'm here like, work, work. But I definitely think like I had to, I had to take a step back because several conversations I had, I was in my head a lot. I talked to Kari too about it, kind of, and about like, you know, I just got to be,
00:41:13
Speaker
I gotta be able to appreciate the things I've done. Complex gave me a media pass. I gotta be like, yo, and now, but I'm already like, the soonest I was done with that, I was already like, all right, next year. And I didn't take the time, because I was running around interviewing every single person I could get my hand on. Talking to Funny Marco, talking to- Really dope, by the way. Thanks. I gotta put the whole thing out. But talk to a bunch of people there, and I'm thinking like, yo, this is the moment.
00:41:43
Speaker
In the action of doing it, I was like, yeah, this is about to take off. And then when I started posting it, nothing happened. And so I started being like, man, am I wack? Like, so, yeah.
00:42:02
Speaker
It'd be the things that you think is gonna take off that don't. So I feel like with a lot of things, it's gonna be something that you least expect that's probably gonna blow you up. Because I see that with content all the time. Example, when I went viral, fucking take time for walking to the storage room. That video took me less than 30 minutes to do.
00:42:30
Speaker
And I went viral and I'm just like, yo, this, and I've been doing other stuff. Cause I'm a, I'm a, first of all, I'm a Virgo. So we're just naturally perfectionists.
00:42:40
Speaker
I show you my phone right now, when I do my reels and stuff, videos, videos, making sure the words, it's matching up with the lip sync. It is so bad. And then those videos don't perform as well. And I'm just like, but it'll be the one that you least expect that's gonna pop. And I think that's a good way to keep yourself not, don't be too hard on yourself.
00:43:08
Speaker
I get that. It's just as harder with this, specifically podcasting. Because it's long form in a world where everybody wants that short form stuff. That's why I'm saying, that's why I'm like, I don't take the internet serious, but then I'm like, I still need the internet to make this go. Yeah, I mean, you gotta take it serious.
00:43:31
Speaker
But I'm talking about the people on it. I treat it like everybody's a bot. So. A bot is crazy. For real though. Until we message, I'm like, all right, it's a real person. Yesterday, I'll tell you straight up. Yesterday, I don't know if you saw, I had a back and forth with Chris. He goes by a man among heroes or something like that on Twitter. But he's on TikTok as like the sneakerhead Chris or something like that.
00:44:01
Speaker
Anyway, he talked, he said, Drake should have won the battles with Pusha and Kendrick. And I was like, should've won? Should've won? Yeah. That's crazy. And I was like, bro, you're bugging, whatever, back and forth. And then I'm not saying he's a bot, because I actually know he's not a bot. But then somebody else jumped in and was like, what are you talking about? Drake has spent so much time on top.
00:44:26
Speaker
He obviously has to be a leet leet rapper because of that was like what?
00:44:33
Speaker
So then, because he said that, I responded and be like, yeah, you're right. And like, I was just like, but that's me being like, yeah, you're not real. Like, that's just so weird. Yeah, like, you got it. Like, I'm not about to go back and forth with you. Yeah, exactly. So I do, that's the thing. So like, a lot of, I mean, you know, you have a lot of back and forths on Twitter, where it's like, that's my thing, right? So if it gets beyond like two or three posts or something like that, and I know, like, I feel like I've never had an interaction with you, I'm like,
00:45:01
Speaker
the third tweet I'm already like, am I right? Yeah, I've already checked out. Dang. Now, certain times I got to get my point across because you're not about to think you about to school me or just talk to me any type of
Twitter's Role in Dialogue
00:45:16
Speaker
way. Sometimes I'm big on getting the last word because at the end of the day, I'm just like, yeah, that's what I thought. But Twitter, I tell people all the time, Twitter is
00:45:28
Speaker
I love Twitter. I love the dialogue it brings. I love that. Compared to all the other apps, again, when you think about brand-wise or whatever, they're on Twitter a lot. This is why these things keep happening. Twitter is very valuable, but it gets very dark. It gets very dark some days, and sometimes you just gotta,
00:45:56
Speaker
Sometimes you gotta be like on what you do, like after the third reply, all right, you got it. And then sometimes you gotta be like, nah, you not about to play in my face because I'm not one of them. So, yeah. I mean, it's, cause like, I used to co-host this podcast with my boy Ify and he's big on Twitter. So like, he was telling me in the beginning, like, yeah man, you gotta be like on Twitter, like, you know, making whatever. So I started doing that and I realized like, I mean,
00:46:23
Speaker
Nobody sees my shit. So it's just like now in this realm of like, how am I going to be tweeting like Sakjig, you know, and trying to get the people. And I mean, me and Sakjig go back and forth every fucking day, every time I drop this episode. He's probably going to text me, message me when this drops, but.
00:46:42
Speaker
he, me and him always talk about like, oh, what can I do better? What, you know, and this and that. And, and I'm, I've always explained to him, I'm like, is hard. Cause he's like, I have these numbers and this is how I'm doing now. Right. When his podcast and he, me and him always share data and stuff like that. Like I sound like a freaking.
00:47:01
Speaker
like a stock bro. But me and him always bounce ideas back and forth and stuff. So he was telling me this and I'm gonna explain it to him. I didn't start having a following until this podcast is my little following that I have.
00:47:18
Speaker
And it's only because I had to grow everything at the same time. If I had if I was doing what I should have been doing, which was posting when Instagram dropped my sneakers and stuff like that, then I would have had at least a little
Content Creation Challenges
00:47:32
Speaker
bit of a following. But now I'm growing everything together. It's the heart. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like.
00:47:38
Speaker
I can't, I can't, that's why I'm like, when I had Rainey on, I was telling him, cause he's big on TikTok, Twitter and TikTok actually, but I was telling him, I was just like, I find that part of this boring. I find content creation at that, like making the reels and then like, I find it boring. But you know, sometimes you're gonna have to follow the formula. Yeah, I mean, I have my little, you know, now I do this. I know what you can do to grow on Twitter.
00:48:06
Speaker
What? Talk about Candace Owens? No, no, no. All you have to do is do what a lot of these other pages do. And this is meant to be a joke, by the way. But you come on, you talk stock numbers, and you know, like the Uncle Chrissy's a number. I'm just gonna say that. You gotta do what they do, because it works. It works. It works. Now, I'm joking. Don't do that, because you want to grow organically.
00:48:36
Speaker
Maybe, so you know how like Sogjic, he does the Mr. Brightside, like so maybe like, not do that, but like maybe do something that you have to think of something that's going to be engaging. And kind of just go from there. I think that's how you can grow on Twitter a little bit. I mean, my boy hit me up, was like, yo, you should make, you know, color waves for sneakers. And I was just like, no.
00:49:06
Speaker
What are you, a mock-up person? Like, no, man. I'm not going to do that. See, so I know the vein. I mean, you can tell like a lot of what I do is based around my idea of being a sneakerhead of like, I like the stories. I like telling other people's stories. I like that.
00:49:24
Speaker
And so I always come up, I'm a big idea guy. I had to take like, I'm in like a training class for management or something like that. And they're like, I'm a type four personality where it's like, I'm a big idea person, but I'm like a tornado. So like everything is fucked up, but I will get things done. So I was like, damn, this shit makes sense. Like I don't take any notes. I just go by the seat of my pants.
00:49:50
Speaker
I got yelled at about that for this podcast. So, but the, the idea of like, I just, I want to stay in the vein of like, I want to be able to have conversations, but also tell stories. And it's also just like, I feel like the current state of sneakers is everybody just wants to get a fucking reaction, right? Yeah. It's,
00:50:17
Speaker
Like, perfect example, AEs, right? Oh, you stupid, yeah. Love this pair. Like, I can't wait till I post my pictures today. Like, what are we talking about? What are we talking about? But yeah, I mean, Wale being like, oh, oh, oh, it's because of the AEs, all the sneakers and jeans back, like,
00:50:41
Speaker
Like, who wasn't wearing sneakers with you? Yeah, yeah, nah, nah, nah. The clickbait engagement form is sometimes I'll be like, listen, I get it. Sometimes you gotta feed the machine, right? But it be stuff like that way. I'm just like, what are we talking about right now? See, this is what I'm saying. Like, it's that, it's the sneakers boring. Oh my gosh. I feel like there was another one recently.
00:51:09
Speaker
I was thinking like, was it the- Oh, we keep getting the same, like recurring, like the guy with the knives to him. And it's like, oh, was one sneaker opinion. And listen, I'm always having an opinion on him, but I could see where it's just getting really repetitive. Because people, they trying to get the clicks, they trying-
00:51:31
Speaker
And then when I say sneakers and mental health go hand in hand, then people look at me like I'm crazy because it's to the point where you, and this is no shade, but it's to the point where you feel like you have to just say anything to get a reaction. There's no real depth. A lot of people are one dimensional, like for real, for real.
00:51:54
Speaker
It's a tough space to be in for sure. But I have faith that all the sneakers is boring type of people, all those type of people are going to wean out. And the people that are really creators and you know, you with the podcast or whatever, I feel like
00:52:15
Speaker
Just consistency, I feel like it could, I feel like we can get back to a decent place. I don't think it would ever go back to, but I feel like once people get into hats or, well, I think freaking wrestling is trending now. So wrestling with sneakers, go on to that, go on to something different. Just let the people that genuinely love this space finally thrive because I've had enough.
00:52:40
Speaker
I've had enough. It's it's because now you made me think about like I had it in the top of my fucking tongue. The the idea of just like when those people go like it's it's like the sneaker market. People freaking be like, oh, I'm out now. You know, I'm going to sell off my whole collection. This is what this is what I was thinking about.
00:53:04
Speaker
purposely being bad, like a bad, not a bad person, being the bad guy when it comes to sneakers. What is your thoughts on that? You have to take people at face value. And I feel like if that's who you are in sneakers, that's who you are in real life. I got nothing for you.
00:53:33
Speaker
I got nothing for you. And it's interesting how some people are okay with being a villain. That's fine. I lost my train of thought. Some people are okay with being a villain and that's fine. However, those are just not my type of people that I want to be around. Like I'm just,
00:54:00
Speaker
Like I said, I don't like bullies. I like, I really don't like bullies. I was bullied once as a kid and my sisters embedded in me like, yeah, no, we're not doing, never happened again. So I've actually, I actually became the person that would stick up for other people because I just, I hate it so much. So sometimes when I see like certain things where it just, it's clear that it's bullying, I'm just like, why are you doing this again? But then you have people that would eat it up.
00:54:31
Speaker
I don't understand that, right? You know? They would eat it up. And I'm just like, this is interesting. But when I say something or I'm defending myself, then I'm the bad guy. Right. Yeah, I got it. It's interesting because, I mean,
00:54:49
Speaker
People are probably not gonna understand this, but there's a whole sneaker community on TikTok. And it's like, I feel like it's not the same sneaker community on any other place. Like I'm talking about, I've never seen, like I've never seen- I fell off on TikTok. Like, yeah. You got, I mean, just go back on there. You'd be like, what happened? But it's weird because now that it's getting banned, but a lot of, well, if it is, it does get banned. But a lot of people are like,
00:55:18
Speaker
We're a community. There's no, you can't be having these, you could be in a bully and this and that. And it's like, but where did this come from? Why are people feeling like they should be able to be a bully on camera? That's what's really interesting because it's easier to do it when you're like behind a keyboard with a fake name and an egg on your thing, you know? Or even on like a comment in Instagram, but it's interesting when you can do it on a video.
00:55:49
Speaker
TikTok is notorious for that, I will say that. It's easier to, because when you're replying to people, for the most part, it's essentially through video. That's interesting. That's tough. I don't know what's going on. I feel like we are just in this,
00:56:08
Speaker
matrix or something like, I don't know if things have to just like crash for it to get better. Maybe that's what's happening. I mean, the reason why I made that video where I said nobody cares is and I made it outside on purpose because I think people just need to. Yeah, go outside and touch grass, please.
Balancing Sneaker Communities
00:56:25
Speaker
For sure. I'm literally outside like seven days a week. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that.
00:56:31
Speaker
I'm glad that now we're getting more sneaker events, right? So like, you know, I mean, well, I think the last, I think you went to Jameson drop-in. I did, I went to Street Market too. Oh yeah, I missed you. Cause I went on a Sunday. Oh yeah, yeah, I went that Saturday. So I went there. So I went up to Jameson there, future guest, but, and I talked to JD who put the whole thing together. So also future guest as well. Oh nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. But the,
00:57:00
Speaker
We missed that, everybody felt like 2020 just got us all inside and now we outside. A lot of these people are being like, I don't think I'm into this anymore because of that. Or they just don't wanna come outside because they know that what they do on the internet is a good chance that no one's playing with you. But yeah, I think that's another reason, but yeah. It's interesting, I went to the
00:57:26
Speaker
The one, well, rest in peace with Dallas Penn, but I went to the Air Max event at Woodstock, and actually it's y'all. Woodstock is so far. And that's where I met Dallas Penn. He put me on his Instagram before he passed. That was wild, wild moment, but I got to talk to him for like a half an hour. Getting that chance to talk to somebody legendary like that felt like you're not gonna get that on the internet. So go outside, please, please go outside. Sneakers are meant to be walked in.
00:57:55
Speaker
I mean, yeah, that too. And I just want to touch on, because I feel like sometimes some people feel like community is only outside. I think it's a balance. I think it's a good balance between... I think you need to have a good balance between what's going on on the socials and actually going outside. That's what creates community. Because for the most part,
00:58:18
Speaker
When you're creating communities online, these are the people that you eventually want to link up with because you would never cross paths with them in real life for real for real, especially if you live in other states. A lot of my sneaker friends are down south.
00:58:31
Speaker
I would never known them had it not been for sneakers. So like as much as people like to say, oh, like, you know, outside and, you know, standing in lines and all of that, yeah, that created a community, but being online also creates community. It just needs to be about it. It's both, in my opinion, because obviously at one point the resellers took over those lines and those lines will whack for a good minute. Seeing those blue bags, I was like, I ain't copping shit, I'm going home.
00:59:01
Speaker
And it's funny because obviously you have to have both because there are people that don't get to have lines. There's people that just only are able, they live in the middle of nowhere. They're not able to get anything, but they love sneakers. And so that's what's great about having both. The thing is just like, I feel like people don't know how to talk to each other. And it's like, now everybody needs to go outside so they can learn how to talk to each other again. Yeah, yeah, but you know.
State of Sneaker Culture
00:59:30
Speaker
Like I said, I would just keep bringing it back to just a weird place we are in right now. But I think we are just seeing a lot of crash outs and I'm hoping that the people that really just don't want to do this anymore go. And the people that- Say some names, let's hear some names. Don't be messy.
00:59:50
Speaker
Don't be messy. We're gonna have a scrolling list. It's not too many people, but it's just certain ones where I'm just like, listen, like, y'all know, y'all come here because it's easier to get hot and sneakers. It is what it is. It is what it is, like, but, you know, go. Brian Ware, I'ma say it.
01:00:18
Speaker
He's the only person banned from this podcast. I'm dead.
Critique of Influencer Engagement
01:00:22
Speaker
I don't know if I told this story on here, but we're about to wrap up, but one time during Clubhouse, so Brian Ware was popping at the time. I'm so mad I didn't get to experience Clubhouse, by the way. You ain't miss a lot. Oh, okay.
01:00:40
Speaker
If you listen to my Ace of Moan episode, you could hear- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched it last night. So yeah. But, so, Rachuvinator did like a, like a, hey, you know, we're doing, we're gonna have Brian Ware. I didn't know who Brian Ware was at the time.
01:00:56
Speaker
And then I learned after that, I didn't follow him. I looked at his TikTok and I was just like, all he has is hype shit. And I was just like, this is not like fun, whatever. So his content was not fun to me. But I already had this like little name on Clubhouse. So people were like, oh yeah, he's a sneaker dude. He has a sneaker podcast, blah, blah, blah. So I was pushing this shit hard on there. And so,
01:01:19
Speaker
I get up and then they're like, yo, hosks, jump up, get a badge, whatever, jump up and talk on the stage. You can ask your question, whatever. So I asked Brian Ware, what's your first kiss? What's your first pair of sneezes you absolutely need to have? He gave me some lame-ass answer. And he's like, yeah, I've only been collecting for about two years. I was like two years. And you have almost 5 million people watching you. Wow. And then he was just like, yeah, you know. And my mom gave me the money and that was it. I was like, my mom gave me the money.
01:01:48
Speaker
And I was like, he's on the- I wasn't rich since I was a kid. He was like, cause his first video that he was doing on TikTok was, I'm still mad I remember this, but he was like, he would do Soda Stream videos. So he would get a Soda Stream, like what flavor you want to see? And then he'd put it in the Soda Stream and then he would just make a Soda Stream. And then he would get like a hundred thousand views on that shit, just because of doing that. Then he turned that into sneakers.
01:02:15
Speaker
And then the sneakers, now he's now, I don't know what he's doing now, but he's doing the walking around with the, talking about a sneaker in his hand or some shit like that. It was so lame. So lame. So yeah, banned. And that's the only guy, that's the only guy I really kind of talk shit about. That's it. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. That's something. But, Keely, let everybody know where they can find you.
01:02:40
Speaker
You can find me on all socials, key, the number two, U-R-S-O-L-E, so key to your soul. I'm trying to think, well, this is gonna drop. Like three, four, three weeks. Okay, okay. Because I was gonna do the mental health, plug in the mental health. Plug it!
01:02:59
Speaker
Oh, well I do kick and do mental health every May. So basically all you gotta do is wear green sneakers if you are in support and it's basically to just bring awareness to sneakers and mental health in the community. Because again, people love to say that it doesn't go hand in hand, but it does because y'all wouldn't be crashing out over sneakers the way that y'all do. So, but yeah, this is fun. This is fun. I mean, I still gotta do my plugs.
01:03:24
Speaker
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01:03:55
Speaker
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