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It's More Than Just Rubber & Leather with Premium Pete
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This week I am joined by the legendary Premium Pete, we talk about his journey with kicks. His impact on the sneaker community and sneaker culture. Also his friendships with some of the most legendary sneakerheads. We touch on how much Dallas Penn contributed to the sneaker and fashion game. We also talk about where he has seen the sneaker community has gone and grown. Plus so much more! Where to find Premium Pete:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/@premiumpete
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/@premiumpete
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ThePremiumPeteShow
Podcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/myfirstkicks
Music by The DoppleGangaz: https://thedoppelgangaz.bandcamp.com/
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Transcript
Introduction and Longevity in Success
00:00:00
Speaker
If I'm gonna sit here today, I'm gonna preach to anybody about longevity. Just being around, you know, not for a short time, but a long time. You know, to get to Jordan 1, I want to say this, it took a community. yeah And that's what made me want to build communities and give back to communities. I'll never forget. People made fun of these sneakers all the time. And and I can't believe I'm going to do this, but this is, this is the style of it where people used to be like, yo, rejects, of course, a dollar 99 rejects and make your feet feel fine and make your mother save a dime. And I'm like, yo, like my, these sneakers are no good.
Premium Pete's Insights on Consistency and Relationships
00:00:43
Speaker
What's good, everyone? Welcome back to My First Kicks. This is episode 205, and this week, I am joined by none other than the legendary Premium Pete. Thank you. Thank you for having me, man. Welcome to the podcast, man. First off, I want to give you um credit. And what I mean by that is is is I look back, and you actually reached out to me almost three years ago. I sure did. And, you know,
00:01:11
Speaker
yeah Some people take this shit personal and they don't know what their people are going through or situations or maybe you know just people are busy. or you know and i I've always had you on my mind and's because you followed up and you followed up again. I know what it takes and I know how kind of like You know, and it's even tougher now, but like years ago, I was asking people, who they really weren't on a pod, so all the time. So they were like, kind of like, all right, I don't know. I always tell this story on the Combat Jack Show. I remember I used to eat when we told him to come out. He was like, I don't even know where the pod got out. I'll come and sit with y'all though.
00:01:47
Speaker
and And, you know, it made me understand early on. So following up is everything, man. um Not taking it personal. You know, like sometimes I've met people, and I think I was on the run or whatever, and I may have been like, yo, yo, email me. And they took it, like, I could tell. And they were like, oh, we want to talk to you. We want to talk to you. And I gave them my email, and they took it like like, you know, I was going through changing my phones but that at that time. But did I have to explain all that? No. It's like, if you really wanted to,
00:02:15
Speaker
contact to shoot me email. But what I'm trying to tell you is one of the most powerful things to do is consistency and following up. you know and And you've done that. And and I said to myself, um you don't have to make myself available to come. And then wealthy, you know, it's funny because I break chops of wealthy, but he's a young old soul, yeah which I consider even somewhat you to be. um And I was like, you know what? I'm going to make wealthy look good. And I'm going to say, I'm coming on here because I'm that wealthy. I was going to say shout out wealthy man because I'm not your followup follow-up file and file and I salute you for that man for not looking down and thinking you're less ah thinking somebody's ignoring you and it's not just about me it's just in general and that's what I helped make you make it man so so man I appreciate that I didn't expect to get flowers yeah like
00:03:06
Speaker
I am I never I never take when when I ask somebody I never take a person I always make it seem like it's like i'm I'm shooting from the like from deep I'm like I'm always just gonna be like you know hey if it's possible let me know um and I don't i I find it weird when people are like that where it's like i do I do get it if it's like a job, being like, oh we're not good. we're sent You sent your resumes, you do did 20 resumes, and and nobody hit you back. And you'd be like, now I'm frustrated. I get that. But when it comes to talking to people, you have to create a relationship. And if you don't figure out a way a way to create that relationship, it does become a dead end.
00:03:45
Speaker
sure and I think the problem is like some people think they they can be the biggest name, they could be the best interviewer or whatever, but it's like, do you create that relationship? and sure you know And how do you cultivate that? Yeah, not and that's why I said it's important, it's and a big part of podcasts, it's a big part of building and being a creative.
Sneaker Culture and Its Personal Impact
00:04:02
Speaker
you know, no matter what you're in, sneak is, ah you know, entrepreneurship, small business, you know, just being someone who follows up and, you know, like, I think about even myself, like, i I went through times where I had to say to myself, is this guy ignoring me years ago, asking certain people and then people are busy. Yeah. And people are like, yo, as long as you stay true to it. And I think like, you know, that's why I said, you know, when I look back, 2022, some people, man, fuck premium people. Man, well, let me tell you something, man.
00:04:30
Speaker
Sometimes if you kind of keep the door open, people come through. yeah I'm in the building, man. My first kicks. Yeah, yeah. And also we got Dee in the building. Yes, sir. nice you nice Nice to meet you too. You know, it's funny you start mentioning, I think when you get to a point where you start mentioning good people, it's always like ah it's always like ah ah like an open door.
00:04:53
Speaker
Like for me, I always feel like ah it's almost like friend of mine, friend of ours, you know, not to celebrate like a mob kind of slang culture, but yeah it's like there's a big difference. Like when you're like, oh, I'm with some good people that are friend of ours. Yeah.
00:05:07
Speaker
You know, and some people are friend of mine. Yeah. So I love that. I love that. I wanted to say, you know, definitely shout out to Welty. We ran into each other at a static selectors. Is that Fab Buddha? physical it Yeah, it's a hidden tiger. rigan tiger Sorry. I was like, I i get it. I get it confused. Fab Buddha is another place that had really fire wings. I think. of Absolutely. You know, Hidden Tiger is with Static and his partner Kim Chi and I think some other people, but they're doing some dope stuff to, you know, and, you know, have a dope menu and hip hop. Well, if you could listen to hip hop on a Wednesday, if you could, if you could have a hip hop on a Tuesday and and just really vibe out and, you know, and Fat Buddha had a lot of great things. So I think they're just continuing the legacy of their own. Yeah. ah But you're here to answer the question. Yeah. And that question is, what's your first kicks with that first pair of sneakers? You absolutely need it. to Man, that's it. Well, I tell us that, and and then the episode is over. but ah Well, you know, it's it's it's funny when you say, like, because I think about it. And when you say, what's there to think about? You know, I had so many terrible kicks before I had my first kicks. First kicks that I liked. yeah You know, I would say, you know, having is a Jordan one, but that wasn't what I was fascinated over. um And it took a community to get that.
00:06:24
Speaker
But I had so many, like my mother, like I think about it, like we I had like kangaroos yeah you know with a zipper on the side where I used to put, I used to stash five dollars in there, three dollars, two dollars. But I wasn't really understanding that. And then, you know my um it's funny because there's this thing called Rejects, and you know my mother bought me these things called Olympians.
00:06:47
Speaker
and i Never forget people made fun of these sneakers all the time and and I can't believe I'm gonna do this But this is this is the style of it where people used to buy your rejects across a dollar 99 Rejects and make your feet feel fine and Make your mother save a dime And I'm like yo, it's like my these sneakers are no good What are you talking about? They're great, you know, you just and and I'm like nah, so, you know, um ah To get to get like something at that time was very hard. You know, I grew up um My father worked three jobs, you know, I come from a family, you know, we grew up in Coney Island where it gave me a lot of diversity um You know, my grandfather was involved in a lot of different things um like small businesses and different gold carts and it sounds like crazy, but it was a very tough business because it's seasonal right yeah and and You know, I was able to see so many things
00:07:45
Speaker
yeah we're yeah yeah yeah yeah I grew up in Coney Island and and and you know that's he worked right you know there and he owned the go-karts and a couple of different things.
Cultural and Community Reflections from Coney Island
00:07:55
Speaker
Coney Island really gave me, um I was always tell people how to make my bones in Coney Island, but it gave me a lot of flavor and culture and a chance to be a chameleon um because I saw more.
00:08:09
Speaker
ah And then going into like Bensonhurst Brooklyn type of, you know, uh bath beach Brooklyn had a teenage year back in like 88. Yeah 90 is a rough time. You know and think about you think about sneakers people get robbed sneakers people get killed for starter jackets people getting killed for Jordans.
00:08:28
Speaker
You know, just like, you know, that's why that whole thing, like when someone says, what size are you? It's like your size. yeah You know, it's like, and and it's real, you know, seeing people, you know, kind of like, that's one thing about the culture, but I don't want to go in front of Tanger. Let's go back to.
00:08:43
Speaker
to you to me. So, you know, I wore a lot of sneakers like that, you know, growing up that my parents just got me, um you know, until I was able to really be fascinated. Jordan one was fascinating to me, but not as much as the Jordan three. And and I think that's when I really reconnected.
00:09:02
Speaker
You know, to get to Jordan 1, I want to say this, it took a community. Yeah. And that's what made me want to build communities and give back to communities and and do them. Because, you know, I tell people like, you know, even 65 hours, even a hundred hours later on, years later, you know,
00:09:18
Speaker
Like I had I had a paper route like like I used thirty four dollars from that my aunt gave me ten dollars my mother gave me ten dollars my grandmother gave me five you know just little things like that to get one pan and now I look at it like yo if you get one pan now it's like yo people like yo like Jordan call me when you're gonna stop wearing those like You know what I mean? like like You gotta mix them up and have some flavor.
00:09:45
Speaker
It's weird, and that's why you see people find passion in your first kicks. Even in retail, I was able to see people who couldn't afford it now work in places, now they go buy it. Even some people, they work in jobs they can't even wear sneakers. They got crazy collections because they couldn't get it when they were younger. Yeah. I always call it like you're just playing catch up because it's like you spend so long being deprived of that thing and you're like, oh, I got to get these. I got to get these when these brands are being like, oh, let's put these out now when these people can get it. And so when that happens, you're just like, all right, let me know. The reason is coming out again. Let me get it all.
The Emotional Connection to Sneakers
00:10:23
Speaker
Well, Jordan Brand, I think at that time, you know, I mean,
00:10:27
Speaker
Michael Jordan was everything and still is but what I'm saying to me like meaning just be like Mike the shoes to to Everything but I think about you know, I came across so many different shoes ah Throughout my life. I even AV is like AV is 720s. Yeah, you know why via whatever you want To call how um but but eight to me AV is 720s, I love them 830s are cool but you know and I had even even grown 30s of sky high, right and No, 830s are 720s, I think are a little lower lower. But that still had the strap over it, right? Yeah, it was a bigger one. Didn't even like suede felis. Like before I came across like pinnacle sneakers. yeah And I think anybody could understand this. I'll give you an example. like My parents even too, like when I'm saying, I want to get the new um new Mike Jordans and new ass. My mother was like, we don't have that type of money. You know, it's almost like a Mercedes, like you're already trying to drive like ah a car that you can't really get. right And my parents were like, kind of like, yo, we put you in these spot belts, put you in these Sauconies, put you in these, ah you know, Olympians, you know, and these kangaroos. So I was able to get around with that and make it, I'll never forget one thing that was dope. When I was in public school, PS 212,
00:11:41
Speaker
um Puma was big, a basket. like basket at the time. In that school like where we were, basket was big. um The great thing about it was there's a spot up that they used to sell fat laces. So I used to have a pool of basket and I got like $20, I get four laces, sometimes got to throw an extra one in there.
00:12:02
Speaker
And now I was able to take the shoe and like turn it into like white and black with the pan, the mix style, then do like a red, like kind of like, and I was we were able to make flavors with it. And you were shining yeah, because there was like, not like, you know, a lot of people.
00:12:18
Speaker
That's one thing and even people like quark people like Dallas pen people like and I could keep on going but people who and all people from your neighborhood and or or or area that know how to put a fit together together yeah that really and and and and sometimes hear me when I say this without much before there was much. Yeah.
00:12:37
Speaker
You know, like like sometimes even I'll see like a local guy, you'll see a guy put the red hat, the red pants, the red cane. You know, I stop even though it may not be like all designer stuff and he's not like a real say sneaker, right? I'll stop by, yo, my man, you killing it. yeah Because just the ability to put something together in your mind and then put that fit off and it be fire is a beautiful thing. But we're taking a long time to get there. No, we're good.
00:13:05
Speaker
I would say my first sneakers are all those sneakers that got me there, but sneaker that I wanted that was kind of like, you know, the Jordan one took me a while to get it. But the community of family and friends and like, you know, kind of like getting five from here, 10 from here was able to get it.
00:13:21
Speaker
When I really fell in love with sneakers, is the Jordan 3. And even though the Jordan 2 is probably the best leather, and it was made by a tying guy actually. yeah it was um that That shoe doesn't get enough. It's crazy because the Jordan 2 is made with so much beautiful quality and people are like, yeah.
00:13:42
Speaker
you know I mean, yeah, cuz like I had a couple of people on shout out to my boy ad sneaks and he loves Like the way like ah Sean Collard, I don't know if you follow Sean Collard He's like a huge Jordan historian. Yeah, like he's a big Jordan two-person too and that's the thing like the construction of the shoe where it's like It's just everything about his is supreme leather. Yeah. Yeah this um just quality I'm even like n9,000 Deodoro. I feel like they like i feel in my mind I feel like you know, that's a well-crafted shoe. Yeah, you know and I think taking time to use those materials I mean wearing a day in age eight where it's like, you know, you'll see like
00:14:23
Speaker
jordan's with glue on them still or kind of made fast or made you know these are all these businesses that are kind of fulfilling these orders right yeah they don't have the same kind of you know that's what's weird too because you don't know if they have the same brand canis that people who who pushing the brand do right yeah you know and the quality control is tough You know, I see that on a lot. so you know ah But Jordan 3, I would say the first time, i and i've I've said this before, but the first time I saw a Jordan 3, man, I fell in love. yeah I was like in in junior high, and um my science teacher came out. I'll never forget this kid came in with these on, and we were like, yo, we were looking around.
00:15:03
Speaker
I mean, elephant print, the Jumpman logo on the tongue, the visible air unit bubble, which we popped because we didn't believe there was fucking air in there. You know, and then the Nike air in the back. I i remember I was like, yo, I was like, it was a fucking fire. Right. Yeah.
00:15:21
Speaker
you know, and, and, and, you know, it was like, it's funny because it's like, I had to take like so long of convincing to try to get these things with my, the help of like a family. It's like, by the time I got them, the next one was coming out. oh yeah the fours But I was able to wear them. I have pictures still. I mean, I have, it's crazy cause I lost a lot of disposable cameras, but I, mean I mean, I have so many, you know, ah of of like, you know, me as like a young kid and like on a dirt bike on on with fours, you know, you know, threes on, you know, and like when they came out. Yeah. when the So like, I mean, I usually ask the question of like, so how does sneaker culture find you? But you are part of the creation of sneaker culture. so Well, actually, you know, it's funny.
Sneaker Culture's Evolution and Mainstream Growth
00:16:07
Speaker
It's funny you say that because
00:16:10
Speaker
I used to go on sneaker shows and and even having my own, me and Dallas had one of course, Sneaker Fiends Unite. um you know I would always tell people, like because people would be like, go how did you get into the sneaker culture? And I'd be like, yo there's no application like I signed you know to be of it, to to to want to push it and love it. like I was telling this about podcasting earlier.
00:16:31
Speaker
you know i was Involved in podcasts early at a point where? um People even sneakers. I remember like people like wait you have a hundred pairs of sneakers I'm like why that's a lot and this is like so long ago even think about it even like Shasta Chris right now Like he was on the Tyra bank show people were like what like like they were confused But why he's passionate about something, that you know It is a tons of passionate whether you're a woman that love handbags or whether you know You're a man who loves you know golf in this
00:17:02
Speaker
you know, passion before it became a culture. And I look at it like, you know, um that's how you push something forward by believing in it. I was even telling someone, years early on with combat, we were at this lunch and people were going around, hey, what are you doing? Oh, I'm a CFO, I'm a director, I'm a disincomer. I was like, oh, we're podcasters. And I was like, oh, I thought he was going to say he was a lawyer because he's prestigious and people like to do that. And he believed in the the craft even when it was early. And I feel like, um,
00:17:30
Speaker
You know, sneak is sneaker culture is weird because sneaker culture to me is like, it's not, it's not what, like now I think like people see it as like a perk thing, like it's like cool, it's like you get cool points and sometimes like It's easily, you know, you could, like, easily you could put somebody here named Deadstock Tom, and and you could be like, yo, Pete, this is Deadstock Tom, you know, he's he's from Indiana, he's got over 2,000 pairs of sneakers, like, you know, you just don't like to be in front of the camera now, he's coming out. What's up, Tom? Nice to meet you. yeah He made Bordeaux sneakers from Flyclub in the past month. right exactly and now he's because he got money like that right now he so so you know it's very weird because i feel like it's it's it's when it's just sneaker coaches just like hip-hop it's not a music it's a way of life it's the way we walk it's the way we talk so how we represent and everybody has their own style you know it's like You know, I look at it like that and sneaker culture to me, a sneaker community is just about like even just building and being creative. and And it really turned into a lifestyle for me. Like meaning I was able to instill to this day, not only travel the world, but
00:18:42
Speaker
you know, make great friendships and brotherhoods and and help people achieve their dreams and people help me achieve my dreams, you know? I mean, you you definitely, that's what I was saying. Like, it's hard to, the reason why I said it that way is because you are part of the fabric of this. Like, there is no sneer culture in in the idea of how people saw it without you and without, you know, just a piece of the puzzle. I would just say, just a piece of the puzzle. you got you got but you were We're here to give you the flowers. No, I appreciate it. But I also feel like it's just, you know, there's so much of, and I agree with you, like.
00:19:20
Speaker
but when it comes to me is just like, yes, there's many sub-genres and many, many different ways you can appreciate sneakers. And it's like, but yeah, you still have to have this appreciation where it's like, it's something that you just think about constantly or it's something that you just do. and And it's like second natures to you. Um, like when somebody gives me a reference and I'm just like, yeah, I remember when, you know, LeBron wore the galaxy, you know, it's a perfect example.
00:19:41
Speaker
like I remember, you know, I talk to people all the time that remember the Jordan going to a prom and they're like a Jordan 4 or a Jordan 11 on the high school prom yeah or people remember their first kiss in a Jordan 6 or the time, you know, anything. People have memories and moments with these pieces of, you know, I've always looked at, I think as you get older, um you start to really value um things more. yeah And what I mean by that is like,
00:20:10
Speaker
You know, certain sneakers are timepieces of my life.
Sneakers as Symbolic Timepieces in Culture
00:20:14
Speaker
It's almost like music is soundtrack, certain songs are the soundtrack of your life. And, and you know, i I really think people don't understand like the passion of sneakers.
00:20:26
Speaker
um is more than just rubber and leather. right you know um it's it's It's really telling a story and people who fascinated over that piece of product and what it means and the story of it. right And I think that's the fascinating thing, the stories that have been able to have been you know been told. Even I think back in the S.B. days, it's like,
00:20:46
Speaker
some of them were told without even being real, like meaning and meaning these weren't like signed off and official collabs, but the internet favorite my the internet's go and make something and name something, they're going to do that. And I miss, you know, and I really appreciate over the years, um you know, all of um everybody who contributed to making it a real sneaker culture, whether you know me or not, like, you know, um anybody who's watching or listening, you know, I've been able to contribute and I've been able to um help push it forward, you know, and ah and and it's something I'm passionate about, you know, like, I think about
00:21:24
Speaker
sneaker culture, even in the sense of like, you know, I would tell like in retail, my retail days, I would tell moms like, you know, when they were shopping with their sons, I would see them looking at like, what was it called? What's that the guitar SB one, the Fender? The Fender or the Gibson? Yeah, the Gibson. And I remember like the kid looking and his mother saying,
00:21:51
Speaker
Ah, it's too much fire in it. Ah, it's too much yellow. Ah, it's too much red. Too much speckle. And I would just be like, excuse me, i'm like god I'm not trying to, you could buy something here or you don't have to buy anything. yeah But if I could drop this on you real quick, I might go, how old is your son? And she's like, I like 13. I might go, decision making is one of the hardest things for these kids growing up. Let them pick what they like, let them express their feelings, how they feel, how they wanna vibe, how they wanna put something together, and they might do something. And you know, she trusted to me and she would come back over the years like I was some kind of like,
00:22:25
Speaker
coach of a you know like cool coach. yeah um But it means something. I'm saying that to anybody listening. Let your kids pick ah what they want to wear. I don't give a fuck if it's all pink, this, that. like you know like Let them express themselves um and see what they like and see what they don't like. yeah you know And I think like that's the thing like you know that I try to do. There's no book of the manual.
00:22:49
Speaker
and to sneak a coach of being a parent or a life or anything like that. Even I got people who tell me like, you know, I got people like, yo, premium P, I'm from St. Louis, no disrespect, but we got the best pizza. And I just say, hey, your palate is a rookie. You know, like your palate is, you know.
00:23:04
Speaker
A ridiculous rookie. You know what I mean? And there's nothing wrong with that. I can't even talk crazy. St. Louis, I love y'all. I love y'all. It's not only about St. Louis. It's just about if a kid grows up somewhere in Kansas or whatever, and that's what he likes. He's like, yo, I just ate this New York. It ain't that good. And I'm like, OK. But I just think it's always down to the materials. That's what I was saying, even in sneakers.
00:23:30
Speaker
That's one thing I always appreciated about being a nerd for sneakers. Yeah. Like, you know, even I remember like Talib, he came on um Combat Jack show years ago and he was talking about how all different hip hop artists are nerds, whether it be a comic book nerd or this nerd. And we looking at nerds the wrong way, like nerd don't mean you like you a square, you know, you just you nerd out on things. Yeah. And which sneakers I like I remember even like you know long-lived Alice Penn of how much he appreciated like the interior and the exterior you know like a car you know what I'm saying like how's it look inside like you know what I mean like what's the comfortability what's on the outside you know even that's why even people like Clark Kent you think about it and I draw on Black Friday's but here's a guy who's like yo how am I gonna put together
00:24:18
Speaker
like some of the dopest materials, but not, like, hurt a pocket of somebody. And in this industry, in this time, it's hard to do that. Hard to do that. Because they're like, yo, it's almost like, kind of like, yeah, we'll give you a check, but, you know, it's not a benefit for everybody else. Right, yeah, we'll give you the check. It's like, it's $500 a pair. Yeah, and you gotta make us make money. Yeah, and you gotta promote that. And not to saying that there's something wrong,
00:24:46
Speaker
with 500 a pair, but I'm just saying anybody who's trying to make it affordable and have you have dope stuff yeah and and really just you know give you more bang for your buck, I think that's special. and As a creative, think about it. Forget about Clark being a producer. Forget about him being a legend and and everything he was, just to be able to As a Brooklyn kid, to be able to create a sneaker, to be able to have a sneaker in your like in your own name, to to to obsess over something.
Inclusivity and Connection within Sneaker Culture
00:25:15
Speaker
and and you know One thing that's fascinating is how much time you had to spread love. You don't realize that people are gone. yeah Even somebody like Dallas, I mean to spread love to other people. It's interesting because I met both Clark. I met Clark, ah shout out Antonio, um because I met Antonio last year um and we came pretty cool. But I met Clark the year before at ComplexCon and got to speak to him for a little bit. um But he I first met him at like Basketball City SneakerCon. He pulled up one time, talked to him for a little bit, just before I even thought about
00:25:49
Speaker
getting really heavy into like you know writing sneakers, writing about sneakers, if I wanted to, or talking about sneakers. like I was just collecting, that was it. I would just go home. But um started this, and I really always wanted to have Clark on. And I wanted to talk to him a little bit, but never really got the chance. But that one time at Basketball City, we left a blasting impression of like, oh, if I want to be in this, I need to push this forward. And that's like that's all I've been ever been trying to do, is like,
00:26:17
Speaker
Because before that moment, before I met Clark, I always thought this was like, this is for me, me, me. Right. I was like, I got to know where the hot shit is. I got to know where to go. like i can't I'm keeping this. I'm gatekeeping everybody away from this so that I'm the the one that's got it all. Yeah. Met him, spoke to him a little bit. And like after that, like.
00:26:36
Speaker
because him and Russ are doing a quick strike, got me really heavy into sneaker culture. And so I was just like, damn, I'm looking at this all wrong. I should be trying to get everybody into this. And that's what I felt from him. And I've always, ever since that moment, I've always just been like, sneakers is for everybody. Sneakers is for everybody. You know, you're gonna love it, how you love it. And we all should like, you know, there's no real right way type of thing. Sure, sure. I mean, it's also, it's a piece of, ah You know, sneakers are are, you know, a conversation starter. You know, I look at people's sneakers, you know, even like, that's what I was saying before. It's more like a uniform now. um But, you know, back, like, even like, I remember like, and I still to this guy, they, you know, maybe I may be, I'm just giving example on a cruise. and You see some like old guy wearing like, you know, like Ferris Bueller's. I'm like, yo, my man. like
00:27:28
Speaker
Salud I see you, you know, and I think that's always special. Yeah, I miss I'm not saying that's not out there still but I miss the it's rare I i miss it being authentic like that, you know, I miss I miss um like I'll give you an example yeah because I was in I was in Vegas and I always peruse the the sneaker shop so I'd go in there and I'm like I'm looking at a pair of 90s 95s and This guy, this older guy comes up to me and he's just like, I'm holding him. And he goes, best shoe model ever made. And I looked at him and was just like, 95s. He's like, best shoe model. This is the first time I ever put on, like I had the felt with the Air Max bubble really felt like. And I was just like.
00:28:09
Speaker
That's a moment. Like, to me, in my head, I forever, forever in my head, just like, I always fall back to that. Well, if you think about it, this is a 30 year anniversary this year. It is. You know, MX95, it's crazy. I actually have, it's a big part of my collection for many years.
00:28:26
Speaker
It used to be one of my almost favorite shoes. I used to run an Amex and I was really, I remember Amex ID and 255. I made so many. I got so many, even now, I got so many pull boxes of all different materials as I started to, no, no, the IDs I'm talking about. Oh, the IDs? Yeah, of course. I'm gonna say OG with the Dave's quality meats on the tongue? Yeah, I mean, listen, I've always,
00:28:54
Speaker
Shout out to Dave. I mean I think his his creativeness um and I've said this before plenty of times and um't I don't I think we know of each other we don't know you know kind of but What an amazing creative I mean for even just DQM Not only for the blazes and the bacons um and his passion, but more more importantly just his creativeness ah many years ago um you know, for being like a butcher shop, a style of, you know, even places like Bodega for, you know, being a Bodega before you go into a sneakers store are so creative, honestly, like, you know, and and people, you know, they've been around for so long. People think this is new. A lot of these guys are creative. You know, you think about sneaker shops all over the world and having a boutique, you know, it's not a, it's not an easy job and people want to come and hang out. Everybody wants a discount and a hookup.
00:29:45
Speaker
Um, but I give, I give credit, you know, people like corporate Matt, one of the nicest guys in the business. Um, you know, and been around a long time and and that's what it's about. Like, I feel like.
00:29:57
Speaker
If I'm a sit here today, I'm a preach to anybody about longevity, just being around, you know, not for a short time, but a long time. time yeah And I think it's, um you know, it's important to, you know, for that. And both cheeks are tough, man. I really, you know, I really, I feel bad for a lot of both cheeks because, same you know, it's, it's a, like I give example, even me, when I was in retail, I used to have people who are calling like, Hey yo, you're going to get that a holiday Jordan 11, like the the two pack.
00:30:27
Speaker
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna get there anyway. Okay, how much? I'm like, uh, I got to see when they come in. If we get them early, I don't know. It depends. And he goes, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to give you a sound. I'm trying to look out for you. And I'm like, yo, these holiday Jordans will walk off the, I'm like, yo, now walk off the shelf.
Building Genuine Relationships in Business and Community
00:30:45
Speaker
But, yeah how, and I told this to people, if you fuck with sneakers and you got a local boutique shop, not that you don't know this, if you if if you if you're hearing this and you already know, but if you don't, you know, buy the other things from them. right yeah you know And even if they give you discounts, support them, they'll hold you down. Building a relationship, you know, I guess I'm going to go here, but building a relationship is the real flex in life. yeah I grew up in Brooklyn at a time where materialistic, glitter gold was everything. You know what I'm saying? I know guys that they look great, they were terrible in the inside. I didn't know that. They were in confession every week, but they look great. And I think that what people don't understand is building a relationship will get you more sneakers. Building a relationship will get you more opportunities.
00:31:37
Speaker
you know i You know, it's important like that, you know, and to even know, like, that people don't realize that in your phone, it's it's all there, but it depends of how you're kind of handling it and and approaching it. But Botiques, supporting them in all aspects, I think makes them turn around and support you. Yeah. And make sure you're good. And I think for a little bit of like, you know, if you're buying this and buying that, it kind of weighs out for you. So you don't have to deal with the headache. Right. You know, because I remember a time where people couldn't get sneakers at all. At all. At all. Yeah. Okay. And and and you know, it was very hard.
00:32:15
Speaker
You know, but I, I, you know, I think that exclusivity is, is, is not, is not what um people want today. And emotionally they can't deal with it. They can't deal with it at all. Like, you know, this whole thing with the bread ones is, has been, I think I told you, I've been getting hit up like crazy. And the crazy things I haven't, I've been so busy with some others. I haven't even paid attention. to it. And it's like, it's just like they wouldn't last in the 2000s at all. It's like, i i'm I'm too much backdoor. Yeah. Yeah. Way too much. ball for um i I grew up in the era of just being like, I i became a size 13. I tweeted this out recently. I'm just like, I became a size 13. I realized I'm never getting all the shoes that I wanted immediately because there's only one or two pairs that you'd get in a purse store. So I was just like, how many 12 and a half do you see?
00:33:03
Speaker
and even less. And I'm like, I'm a true 12 and a half, but I'm a 13. It's crazy to hear the 13s and the 12s and a half talk that way when I'm a nine, nine and a half. Yeah, but you get like, nines get like six and a half. But F's everybody's size though at the same time. So it's like, not if you're in the front of the line, I'm in the front of the line and not getting my bear. But everybody's copping the flavors very quickly. And it's also Matt, the retail on me is nuts.
00:33:29
Speaker
Well, nine nine is, I mean, I'm a nine. And to be honest with you, I feel like I was a nine at a point where I thought it was like a braggadocious time, yeah meaning because it was sample size. Now, to be honest with you, I mean, samples could be in any size. yeah and and I just learned that recently. you know yeah But but you know at the time I was like, oh, I'm a nine. And I did. and I have been blessed with different you know early sneakers for being a size nine. But my experience, I can actually kind of tell you things by certain sizes. like as as weird that's how That's how long I've been around sneakers. First of all, 13, years ago when people order, 13, they wouldn't order a lot of 13s because they were afraid of getting stuck with them. 13 has become more and more and more and more and more normal. 13 is just normal as a 9 now. 10 and a half for some reason is just an amazing number. I don't know why, I guess maybe people just never got even.
00:34:23
Speaker
and and No, I'm just being honest, but 10 and a half has always been a humongous, but nine, that you know, and then seven, it's like, you're like, you don't want to pay the the, you know, the men price for seven and a half. And you know, but sneakers, you know, you think about sneakers on so many, I'm going to give it back to you yeah in a second, but I want to say the sneakers on so many levels are beautiful, crazy, and weird. You know, I remember even being in retail and, you know, different, like, kids would come and, you know, brand new pair of Air Forces, buy a brand new pair of Jordans, Aqua Eights, take, go outside and take that Air Force and throw it in the car. Yo, my man! He's, I'm like, what are you doing? Why don't you just, like, yo, give that to somebody, man. You know, that's, like, that's a brand new pair of Air Forces. Like, I mean, we wore them, like, once or twice.
00:35:14
Speaker
And he's like, fuck that, I don't give a man, nobody give a fuck about anybody else. I'm like, now this is the years ago and I get it. And there are people right now that may feel that way. because there are yeah Because there are people that don't give a fuck about them. And they hate on them and try to block them. And they just get and fly. So here's what I tell you, get more fly.
00:35:34
Speaker
get more, get more wavy with it. But at the end of the day, you know, like, you know, it's like kind of like learning how to like, do that. It's, it's, it's the cold, you know, sneaker culture, it's like kind of like, another thing too, is I'm just being honest. I hear people be like, yo, he got OG Jordan fours and OG Jordan sixes. He's a legend.
00:35:58
Speaker
No, I go by OG joining sixes right now on StockX, OG joining four, and then you guys sit here and call me a legend? Because I have them in possession. I didn't fucking make them. Put my stanky feet in them, I'm a legend. So, no, no, no, I'm saying, so it's not only about sneakers. yeah let's keep Let's call people legends but when they earn it. And don't ever call yourself a motherfucking legend. Never, never. Let the people call you that shit.
00:36:24
Speaker
Earn that shit and you know, I do feel like the word is thrown around loosely but but I think that's just like the watered-downness of everything like everybody's quick to water and down like Like for example, and I mean when I was on the forums heavy during the day, thank you talk NSB dot org a lot, but I assess I was very good friends with Jeremy. Oh, I was on nsp.org.
00:36:49
Speaker
It's funny. um You know, it's so funny someone sent me a video of like me Dallas Jeremy and like Chris Vidal I think like 17 years ago Dallas had this video like putting a light on Internet yeah and um But yeah, I remember and a speed out dog. We used to have ah the store um advertised on that became friends with him I don't even know what, you know it's like sometimes sneakers you don't even know what happens like people just but I was definitely with friends for a while and if wherever he is salute to Jeremy created a community and we had some fun. We hung out we became cool. I mean it wasn't from New York, you know, it was I forgot where it was from the I met like ah we had like a little group that we always meet up and stuff the but um
00:37:31
Speaker
I was trying to say, but the, but like, that's where I like learned about community and like, but the biggest thing was everybody called people legends for having gigantic collections. Sure. Sure. Right. Or PE's. Yeah. It takes a lot of work. It takes a lot of work to, but I say this, it, it, it.
00:37:49
Speaker
It takes, i I compare that if somebody acts, okay, I would say I compare that to like even starting a podcast these days. Like, okay. Like even having a film these days, okay. I see so many people even having your own strain these days.
00:38:06
Speaker
Like in wheat, okay. yeah But you gotta sell it. yeah right yeah So what I'm saying is is, there's a lot of people who have films that can't sell it. There's a lot of people who have podcasts that may not make any money from it.
00:38:20
Speaker
I'm gonna explain what I mean by that, meaning it takes time to build something. And a lot of people, if you're looking for something to build like that, you gotta be unique. And that's where I'm saying being unique with something, like we could just talk about kicks, that's cool. Anybody could talk about kicks. yeah But being unique with it and having different people come on and share their story, I also believe, to be honest with you,
00:38:45
Speaker
having a good guest is somebody that's going to give the audience, your audience, something. Because that's the value. You're the value of providing the platform. They're the value of coming on here and letting the people listening, right? Like, and giving them some gems yeah about life or sneakers or anything. Because most people, you know, I'm thinking about it, like, kind of like, I had this one on, but okay. Like you may say, oh man, I have premium pinot. And people are like,
00:39:09
Speaker
Well, it's like they may enjoy the episode more than they know of me. i Meaning like, oh, I actually didn't know of him that, but wow, what an episode. And that's what it's about. It's not about like kind of like... um just using the his using the name or feeling like, yeah but who is this? Or I know this, it's like kind of like, what did he say?
Tribute to Influential Figures in Sneaker Culture
00:39:27
Speaker
right You know what I'm saying? and And what did he leave me with? And I think anybody who loves sneakers and compassion, we talk about him, you know, and it is beautiful. and And I say this now, I try, you know, I'm very humble guy, but
00:39:40
Speaker
through rubber and leather, I've been able to travel my voice around the world and travel around the world and see different people do amazing things. I've said this before on different episodes, but man, it's been inspiring to see, you know, like, you know, I was, I mean, you know, I definitely wanted to touch on, you know, your your friendship with with Dallas. but Yeah. Yeah. the So because we talked about how I met Clark, but so I met Dallas last year.
00:40:10
Speaker
the beginning of last year. I always wanted to have him on as a guest. So I talked to him at Air Max Day um and he took a picture of me and and my boy Marcus and I'm on his his Instagram.
00:40:24
Speaker
ah And I talked, them I told you about this, sorry, I'm like kind of breaking up. But like, it's just definitely, I've always was a big fan of Dallas for so many years, right? But like, to me, it was always just like this, I just want to talk to him because he's such a, such a just like a wordsmith and a visual, like you can paint the pictures that he've been oh he would always write about and give you like this, like,
00:40:53
Speaker
world that you just live in whenever you'd read his writings and also, you know, stuff his stuff on combat Jack and all the skits and stuff that, you know, you got to be part of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, you know, I wanted to know more about. Yeah. Well, well first of all, you know, um you know, rest in peace to Dallas Penn, you know, just a really, really unique guy. You know, I, um you know,
00:41:18
Speaker
Sometimes you look for monetary things and and and and you know things that'll help you kind of succeed in life, but you don't even realize that friendships or... you know i'm i I met Dallas later on in my life. I became better friends with him than I... Been friends I grew up with and you know, even though I was telling somebody other day I was able to share like a like a break-in night type of relationship with Dallas like, you know, like and I even like it, you know shouts to ah Susan his wife Chuck snowflake I remember I used to call early in the morning. It's like Pete we're sleeping and i'll be like all alrightll call you back you know because he He would go with no phone like he was like ah one of those guys that like he was so
00:42:01
Speaker
you know, unique, um, his style, like he was meant for everything he did. Yeah. That was Penn was meant, uh, to do everything he did and more, um, you know, his influence, his, his style. I mean, even what guy goes on crutches and puts the same, like he was wearing Jordan 14s and then put the Jordan baby, Jordan 14s on Yeah, I remember that. Because he had his leg issue with the diabetes. You know what I mean? I'm going through these situations, but I'm still going to say, stay fly as a motherfucker. And he was such a believer and such a wordsmith and really just a guy who gave more to this wife than he took. And somebody that I love and cherish.
00:42:50
Speaker
you know i I was telling you too, because over the years, whether you know people know my journey or not, but I was a lot of people who were special to me. I mean, even over this, you think about just having combat in Dallas and Clark Kent, Sean Price and and Fat Man Scoop, and and I could keep on going, but people that you know I've been able to have comfortable, real, caring, never switch up, never funny style,
00:43:20
Speaker
door opening for you, solid three in the morning, three in the afternoon, fucking friends. yeah you know um And that's something that I cherish daily. i I cherish that. I've been able to build those relationships to sneakers. you know like you know and and It started with sneakers, you know, and then it went into all the stuff. But, you know, just being, that's that that's how special it is. Somebody like Dallas, I think, um you know, although he didn't always get the credit he deserved, he influenced a lot of people. A lot. A lot of people. And I think whether, you know, whether he was brash or whether he was just the trickster he is, you know, his heart was always in the right place. Yeah.
00:44:04
Speaker
And, you know, I feel I feel it an honor that I was able to to share so many moments with him, a brotherhood. I mean, I've had so many people since he passed. I just reach out to me and and tell me, like, yo, I know like I know how much.
00:44:19
Speaker
Like, he fucked with you, or I know how much he appreciates you, or I know how much you loved him, or I know... and And to be honest with you, for the people to say that alone, like, for you to know that. Like, even when I was at his ah first memorial, when when we did, some guy came up to me, he was like, oh, well, he loved you, because I got to shake your... I want to shake your hand. I know he loved you. And and it meant the world to me, yeah you know? And I'll be honest with you, man, you know, and I said this... ah before but when you grow up you know you don't go to like a grief school or um you know and and you don't know I mean you know people are gonna pass and even like when you deal with your own family that you may know has certain time to live and then like when they go it's like oh my god it's like what you didn't know but nobody's prepared nobody's prepared and
00:45:12
Speaker
I think it's just building those types of relationships. I don't want to spend the whole time only you know kind of talking about this, but building relationships like with Dallas or one of my most special... I mean, hey, actually I'll give you this. And I don't know, if you do you go straight? Do you cut things or what do you do? No, we go straight. Okay. So that's great. All right. yeah So I want to give you this. so And then you take it wherever you want to go. yeah okay Don't be afraid. Because remember, I'm like somebody who's like, ah yeah i've've I've done podcasts on the front, done and in the back. Pause. So I want you to take this show wherever you want to take it. But I want to say this.
00:45:54
Speaker
we're taking We're taking it where it's supposed to go. After retail, um i open ah I wanted to do something. It's crazy to me, but I wanted to i love i always wanted to continue to be passionate about sneakers. So I started this thing called SneakerTube in and and When I think about it, it was only 15 years ago. I read it for four years and then we kind of put it to a halt. It was a lot of money just for video storage. right yeah okay Even to build a website, to be able to like like, I was like, can I give them messages? Can they message people? That's 4,000 to create that code. All right, we'll create it. I want them to change their screensaver. I want them this. like Even to build that. And it was never to compete with YouTube. And I never made it, you know,
00:46:43
Speaker
yeah I never made it to like kind of like, um you know, be a competitor. I made it to be a platform for people who want YouTube to feel special. Like meaning like you got like sneak at you. Like if you look a black cat, you would see all black cats. But I want you to see the black cat Jordan 4. Right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying or the black cat Jordan threes and I want to be specific So channels were like Reebok or Nike SB and people are on their featured video Yeah, and I would I would make it my business to like feature people who weren't really featuring then I would get like a little contest I would do called rap your sneaker who would get like $500 to your school and all these people would put in these
00:47:24
Speaker
You know, I should have. I'm like, that's one thing. I'm not a guy. I've done a lot, but I don't know if I put it in one spot well enough where people know, but then I'm also no man i not. no I'm just being honest because I'm not what you're saying. You know what I mean? like I did this. I did this. I don't have to. It's but I want to say this. And I want anybody listening to this or watching this to feel this. But I'm about to tell you.
00:47:48
Speaker
I didn't know what to do in my life in 2010. I come in out of retail. I'm trying to figure it out, but I had so much passion to start a site. I mean, I literally fucking wrote like 500 envelopes with postcards in there, how to upload your videos with a personal letter from me to every single fucking sneaker store all over the world.
00:48:08
Speaker
Like, you know, everybody and I, you know, and and I was able to get different people to be involved, you know, meaning to promote your main put on sneaking news, Matt from Nice Kicks, shouts to G Rock for the shoe game. um um Everybody just really, you know, kind of put it out there for me. um And I remember the first day we got like a thousand, yeah you know, people sign up, then we had a couple of thousand, then we had 10,000. And the point I'm trying to make is this.
00:48:35
Speaker
For four years, I did it, and then I kind of put it down. 2010, I launched it.
Entrepreneurial Ventures and Community Building
00:48:41
Speaker
Dallas Penn calls me and says, hey Pete, come up to the Combat Jack Show and push that sneaker tube. And I was like, really? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, push it. And I was like, all right. So I came up there.
00:48:51
Speaker
And for anyone who don't know or do know, I never left. Never left. And I was able to help kind of add my value and kind of find my voice and kind of, you know, look, the premium piecho was through there, the bridge of... So what I'm saying to you is maybe Sneaker 2 didn't turn out to be this $10 million dollar company that I acquired by fucking YouTube. Yeah. But it was a bridge for me.
00:49:20
Speaker
to, you probably would have never known me. I mean, maybe in sneakers, but you wouldn't know me from the Combat Jack show. I wouldn't probably never really elevated with Dallas so much. We were able, imagine you're passionate and then you're able to like be with your friends because you're passionate about it and get paid for it. Meaning doing podcasts, doing sneakers, doing that type of stuff. And it was at a time where people really didn't believe in it. That's one of the toughest things that I faced, that I try to help younger kids not face, like your parents, and like my mother, like Nike, even this is a fucking blessing. People are sending you shoes and sending you sneakers. And I remember Bun, you know, it's funny, I've said this before, but even like how Bun put it, he was like, yo, Pimp would say, he said, Pimp told him, yo, if Jordan Brand is sending you sneakers, man, we made it, you know? yeah but
00:50:09
Speaker
My mother, every time I would send it to her house, because I felt like she was in a safe area, so it's like the box would be okay. So I would send it, and I would come there, you know, come in, and I'm opening it, and I'm like, why is that? I was like, ah, sneakers, what size? My size. Why don't they send you some money? And I was like, yeah. But what I'm saying, just to be seated, even now, like some, I'll meet like these young, like I go to my barber, like the younger barber, I was like in my trunk getting things and showing him, and I'm looking at a box and he's like, they sent you this? And I'm like, yeah. He's like, why? Like why would they send you this? And I'm like, oh my God, maybe I got to sit here and explain. But at the end of the day, it is a great question.
00:50:57
Speaker
Because people are only thinking about influence, not about influence. It's about relationships. It's about relationships. It's about how you treat people. You know how many people I know that say, oh, Nike don't fuck with me? Who the fuck is Nike? Who? I mean, no. No, I'm saying, you know, Joe Schmoe that works at Nike? That's who the fuck it is. I mean, I was just going to say, go make that relationship. Go build on that. And don't only ask for sneakers. That's true. You know, and you know, it's like, you know, it's just another way of building, man. But again, I'll give it back to you. I don't want to take it. I mean, we're towards the end of the podcast anyway. So I'm going to ask you one more question. And that question deals with a little visualization. Let's go with those Jordan 3s. So I want you to think back to younger premium Pete. I don't know what you call it. Just Pete? Just Pete at this point? Yeah, premium premium is always, first of all, anything in front of a sneaker that I said premium back in the day. I'm thinking when there was like a tier zero accounts and all these things, premium, you know,
00:51:54
Speaker
It's special to you think about anybody that has like a name. Mm-hmm. I was even in my throughout reading in like a rap name, you know well even rap names no just it's like i've i've I've been able to sit down with people from all walks of life had some legendary people so Yeah, and like oh, what was your name before this? Yeah exactly and Or what was this or how you get your nickname? You know, I was telling someone to the other day like even somebody like Dallas Penway He would call me premium or premium so much like premium ice like, you know, like yeah If you said Pete Pete, I'm like like almost to a point where you know, I was even saying sometimes you The culture have someone you'll know them by their nickname. You won't even know they never you'll be friends with them 10 15 years You're like, oh shit. I didn't even know your name was Jeremy My best friend in the whole world we call him Trey Trey. That's true. Yeah So funny, you I learned Trey named so my my best friend the whole group around the corner my god
00:52:49
Speaker
I found out Trey name was not Trey in 2021. When we went, I'm in a punk band and we went on tour and we had to like put stuff, everybody's real names on like the passport stuff and all this other stuff. And I was like, who the hell is Andrew? And it was like.
00:53:06
Speaker
It's Trey. But but it goes it goes to show you, you know, it goes to show you of how the community is never about like, you know, you're accepted because of your love and your passion. Yeah. You know what I mean? And and and I think that's the most important thing. Like there's a passion, there's a passion for, you know, just just like, you know, even when you think about footwear, they're like pieces of moments in our life that we spoke about, you know? Yeah.
00:53:30
Speaker
The time capsule. Speaking of which, so this question deals with a little visualization. So young premium Pete, he's about to open that box of the Jordan threes. What would you tell your younger premium? What would you tell your younger self as he opens that box? Man, what do you mean? At this time, I mean, if you go back in time, you go back in time, you're right behind him. That's a great question. You know, you know, I would probably tell them to buy more pairs of these. Now what are you playing now, you know, it's that's you know, I think that
00:54:07
Speaker
The best advice I would ever give to anybody, even myself, is to never ever give up. It's to never stop believing in in in in your dreams. You know, honestly, so many people I've seen come and go, man. And a lot of it is ah their own, like, can't get out of their own way or, you know, people believe in people who believe in themselves.
00:54:32
Speaker
and you gotta believe in yourself even on the toughest days because it's it's it's it's important and there'll be tough days that that that you may even say, man, fuck this podcast shit or fuck that or where you may meet somebody who will act like you didn't do 205 episodes. um But that doesn't, I shouldn't make you forget about your vision and where you're going. um And there'll be people who won't,
00:55:01
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won't fuck with your shit. yeah and and And won't get what you're doing and where you're going. But I promise you, everyone gets where you're going once you get there. yeah But you gotta to get there. And you know I wish I would tell them to stop worrying about other people or and and and also our learning You know, more importantly, that as much as you want, you know, you can't take everybody with you. And that's one of the toughest things that I've had to deal with in my life. You know, I was always a kid, like, growing up, if I had $5 and my friend didn't have it, like, we're going to an arcade, like, yo, we split this in half. You know, and, you know, it's like,
00:55:48
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I've never been a kid about myself and I think I've been able to show that later on in life yeah you know with with all my different relationships. You know, like with Dallas and combat and bond and really show that like, you know, the careness. And I think um I would just say to You know, to anybody, I'm not going to say it to myself, but just never ever stop believing in yourself. be Stay focused, but also don't be so hard on yourself yeah and and and and learn to forgive yourself. And I will say this, if you wait to be perfect, you'll never do anything.
00:56:22
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A lot of people I know, they they they they wait until like they have it perfect and nobody ever hears from them. I never see them. They say, listen, let me tell you something. How you do it is go go do it and then figure it the fuck out. Put one foot in front of the other. and and And I only say that as somebody who when I think about the culture of sneakers and what it's gonna be, even think about what coaches think is gonna be in 20, 30 years. And there may be some people listening who may not even know who I am. But and want I wanna say this, if you're passionate about something, you can make it a way of life. yeah you know And I think that like what has been created in the community of culture is so special. you know I really, I try to focus on, I mean, there's a lot of craziness,
00:57:10
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And we lost a lot of people in life through silliness yeah ah lines and stuff like that. you know And and then we got to figure ways to not give up your life for a pair of kicks, but you know just the ability ah to you know make friends and create content you know contacts and make love. you know might great community, you know my yeah like make it important and make it like something you love with friends is is is yeah is one of the most powerful things I'm telling you. that's that That's what makes me love it, but let everybody know where to where to find you. Well, listen, ah Premium Pete, um you know if you want to check out anything I do, just you know find it. the you know I've done so many, you know it's funny because it's like, I don't even know. you know i'm Now i'm I've done a couple of films now. Yeah, no, yeah, you're an actor. No, I know, it's fucking weird, right? No, no, I'm saying it's like it's so so it's like coming up to the table I you know, I never I look at it this way if you enjoyed any gym Then get you know, there's definitely more out there to learn from you know, I did Throughout the years of doing premium peach show I did um You know also I did this life gems and I was able to I wanted to give people like tools and So when they're on the go, you know, when I was coming up, you know, there wasn't a lot of people who, you know, wanted to mentor and, you know, it's like kind of why you get coffee like 100 times. Well, when am I gonna have to not get coffee anymore? And I think like, you know, when I grew up, it was a lot like that. Yeah. And I don't want to do that to, I never strive to do that to people who, you know,
00:58:51
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we seeing You want to see you win. And yo, what I don't make you shit and what you eat don't make me shit. So, you know, let let's see people win, man. Yeah, exactly. You know, and if you could do that through the the the thought of sneakers, sneakers is just one component. Yeah, I always think about it like, I mean, as the the quote is, ah rising tides lift all ships. So I try to try to make sure that the people that are around me are always going to be, you know, as uplifted or lifted.
00:59:19
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Yeah. I mean, I want to take you to church on Sunday, but feel free. You know, it's it's like I said, it's any episode that dead I would end speaking to myself or telling a kid or telling anybody, you know, my youngest self or anything.
00:59:34
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we would would you know i'm I'm proud of the way a lot of things have like you know transpired, and i was able to you know I'm not a selfish guy, so I'm glad I was able to create so many moments with people, but off of sneakers. yeah like i want ah You know what I mean? That's what I'm trying to do with this, too. so Well, first of all, you already did it, because you know I want to say this. A lot of people look for things to go further and further and further, and it will.
00:59:59
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That's why I said you never stop believing in you, because if you're silly enough to think you could take this further, then you will. But you have to be so that silly you know to to to be want to take it. I think that if you continue to be informational um and you know could give people an inside look at different walks of life and how people move, you already did a job. you know make like like Like I give an example, and as we and you don't have to keep this. You can keep this to yourself. but You know, say say you get four ads and for the whole month and and and on four episodes and and you make a nice amount of money and you say, wow, I can get used to this and that's cool and that becomes a way of life, but then what next? Right, yeah. Then what do you do with this? If fact did you if you get Jay-Z on his podcast tomorrow and it's like kind of like it's all over the blogs to take and he said, thing what happens next?
01:00:51
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How do we know I'm saying who do you have on next? Oh, I mean I would keep getting Oz next I know But not that but what I'm saying is is I mean, yeah, I mean I would I still would have the hunger to want more Yes, but what I'm saying is that is when you keep going you show people that Jay-Z's not the only episode special and people will find you cuz of Jay-Z but then they will find this episode that you did with XYZ and if I go this was powerful and You know what I'm saying? yeah And I think that's what's special. Continue to do that, because doing a podcast, most people are like, yo, you know my podcast? It's all about them. They'll have this guy on my podcast, that this guy on my podcast. But at the end of the day, when they listen to this episode, they got something for it. That's a double whammy. You're not like, yo, thank you. I want somebody to take this, always looks forward to the next stories that we're telling each week and with each guest as we round out to the end of the episode.
01:01:43
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ah This actually has been episode 206, and I've been wrong the entire time. You've got to do that intro. I'm not doing the intro again. I'll just splice in myself saying 206. But you know where to find me. Who is Hasa? All social media is following the podcast on my first kicks pod. Sorry Dee, I'm not going to let you say it. Do I follow Dee? D-E-E-E? God?
01:02:08
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No, D-E-E-M-I, G-O-D, Andre three stacks, demigod. That's what it is. Go listen to some oxy, go listen to oxy more. You gotta make your your at name a little bit more easier ah when you meet people for the first time. Like, I met this kid one time, he's like, yo, he wanted me to like, ah he's like gave me his name, but yeah I'm trying to remember this thing. It's like pretty thug, 34, 74, underscore.
01:02:37
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daasan I'm like what? I'm like fuck all that shit. That's not a follow right there. That's a lot. He's like yo you make shit on my heart. um ah Follow the podcast My First Kicks Pod and if you have a story info at myfirstkicks.com. Cop a shirt. ah We got a new merch coming. Hats coming.
01:02:54
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ah Thank you for jumping on the podcast. course man that's Like I said, you followed up um and you're doing something that is, ah you know, kind of like giving people history of not only people from all walks of life, but also of how much they you know love kicks and and how special that is. And for everybody out there, you know, what we say each week, wear your kicks. Peace.