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The Most Famous Hand in Sneakers with Arab Lincoln
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This week I am joined by Arab Lincoln, we talk about his journey to becoming one of the best sneaker photographers today. Growing up in South Carolina and how he was ahead of the game in school. His big break during the early days of social media. How much he loves sneaker culture and why he's passionate about it till this day. Plus so much more!
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Podcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/myfirstkicks
Music by The DoppleGangaz: https://thedoppelgangaz.bandcamp.com/
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Transcript
Misconceptions about Sneaker Love
00:00:00
Speaker
Like, why is why do you have so many like shit like, you must be like, you must have like a foot fetish. that That's the only reason, that's the only logical thing that I can think of.
00:00:10
Speaker
You're obsessed with feet. And like, no, like I just, I mean, whatever. Anyway, ah I love sneakers simply because to me, they've always been wearable art and I like art and I love just being able to like look down and be like,
00:00:29
Speaker
damn, this looks insane. you know and like Sometimes it's also just like ah self-expression. yeah and um Some days I'm feeling like super like futuristic. And then other days I'm feeling like you know just kind of plain Jane. and And that's why I love them because like they can kind of just like tell the story of a mood that I might be in without me having to like say much because I really just don't like talking to to people a lot, Haas. No offense. yous yeah Thank you. We're going to talk some more, though. Don't worry.
Introduction to 'My First Kicks' and Guest A-Rab Lincoln
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Speaker
What's good, everyone? Welcome back to My First Kicks. This is episode 211, and this week, I bring to you a special episode with none other than A-Rab Lincoln, man. Welcome the podcast. Thank you, man. Appreciate you having me. Yeah.
00:01:26
Speaker
This is a... Look, I had Jordan on. We talked a little bit about you after that. Also talked about... yeah I'm like, you know, would love to have you on one time. And you followed me, and I was like, I can't believe you followed... Like... I like what you do, man. I've been watching um for a little bit now, like just like on the hush, you know, kind of like stealth mode. But ah yeah, not I think ah what you're doing is really good. It's important and just excited to be here and be able to, you know, kick it. Honestly. No, man.
00:01:58
Speaker
Huge, huge honor. And also thank you because like, it is I mean, and and I know that, you know, with your work as well, it's like, it's really hard to be seen. want to say, right. When you're just like, I'm like, you're, you're, you're just creating and you're also just creating for yourself. Correct. Also want people to find it.
00:02:16
Speaker
yeah know Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, being behind the lens is very interesting because i take it to like such a ah very like interesting train of thought of like thinking about other people and how they perceive it because how i see something is completely different than 99.9999% of the world so ah You know, most people it's like, oh, that's cool. Swipe. And like, for me, trying to have something that is going to just get out there, grab your attention, you're going to go back to it.
00:02:58
Speaker
People are going to share it. Like that's, that's great. I love that. Um, but I'm also trying to figure out how to get from behind because I mean, a lot of people maybe are starting to become a little bit more familiar with my hand. Uh, that, that seems to be, um, yeah. Even with the, the last one would be with the action Bronson post. Yeah. Like the action Bronson new balances and yeah it was like, Oh yeah.
00:03:26
Speaker
That's Tyler's hand right there. going Going diamond with this hand. um But yeah, so I mean, to be able to do things like this and, you know, we were talking off mic just a second
Challenges and Recognition as a Creator
00:03:39
Speaker
ago about me trying to like really push myself out of my comfort zone just because growing up in like such a small lake town in South Carolina,
00:03:48
Speaker
um you know there wasn't a lot of this so it was pretty overwhelming when i moved here over 10 years ago and you know i have my pockets where i get you know into the action and then sometimes i Turned back into like a hermit. Yeah. um And then obviously with COVID, you know, I think that.
00:04:11
Speaker
changes. It changes everything, know. Happy five years to. I can't believe it's been five years. It's crazy. It's crazy that like this is. we're doing this episode on the day that they like announced that everything was like, yeah so hopefully that's not an omen or anything. No, no, no.
00:04:31
Speaker
But I think it's, I mean, we're still, I still feel, um, we're still learning how to be around each other still, in my opinion, like it, the I don't know if it's like if you take into stock how much how much your social battery runs out or like how quick it ah it does. and it's like it's really hard to get that that back. Right. Yeah. um I spent a lot of my younger years just like in my house. like Yeah.
00:04:56
Speaker
So after a certain point, you kind of just got you or you're like, i I can't do this anymore. Like I can't. And, you know, you but it's easy to revert back because I'll have like I'll go weeks of just like not leaving the house. But the and and then, you know, somebody like but that's the thing. It's like if you don't have people that are around you being like, hey, let's go do something and people just leave you alone. It's so easy to just be alone. It's so fascinating how that works, man. Yeah. I mean, I think that.
00:05:25
Speaker
when I think about it in the sense that I grew up in an era where like touching grass, you know, going outside, you know, manhunt, you know, things like that. Man, man, man. Like what an era. and ah you know, you think about the, the Wii game too. all that Oh man. Oh my gosh.
00:05:47
Speaker
um and yeah so like i think about like growing up in that and then it just like slowly becomes more about being online then all of a sudden hard like close everyone stay at home like it's it's been quite the uh the journey yeah um
First Sneaker Obsession: Space Jam 11s
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Speaker
Yeah. so Happy five years. Happy five years. So speaking of the journey, I'm going to hit you with the question that I ask everybody each week. Let's it.
00:06:17
Speaker
And that question is, what's your first kicks with that first pair of singers you absolutely needed to have? So I have a few, but I'm going to start off with the one. like It was like the earliest memory that I can remember. Yeah.
00:06:31
Speaker
The year was, believe, 1996 90... Whenever Space Jam came out, the original Space Jam. I went and saw that with my brother and dad, the theaters. Yeah.
00:06:44
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And... Before I even realized I couldn't even have it, it was the shoe I needed to have, which was the Space Jam 11. Yeah. And i just remember like, what is that? Like, you know, patent leather basketball shoe, you know, like it was, it was ah truly like something I'd never really seen before. And then like on the big screen, you know, like,
00:07:09
Speaker
what a hell of a debut yeah for a Come to find out, I wouldn't even be able to like pretend or like wish or hope to have that shoe until like many years later. And then ah'd be still broke as a little kid with no money and no way to convince my parents. Mm-hmm.
00:07:31
Speaker
um and then i want to say it was 2005 or 6 in high school and i'm like really starting to learn more about sneakers and um was like the like I remember being on Nike Talk and I like scrolled past like and maybe like it was a Jordan 11 thread or something like that in the Jordan form.
00:07:56
Speaker
and I remember like just like learning about all these mythical objects and especially the Space Jam 11. and i was like oh boy like it was like you know like you see somebody like on the train and you're like you know i don't know if you're single or not uh i'm not but okay but let's let's think about a time when we were single and you saw you know someone that just really like you know I guess the kids are saying these days that they gagged you, you know, I've never heard. I haven't heard. Oh, you got cap.
00:08:33
Speaker
Maybe I'm using in the wrong context and this is being a boomer, um but but something along those lines. yeah um Anyway, Let's just say you were smitten. Yeah. Now we go with gag.
00:08:47
Speaker
And then all yeah yeah i could totally be using that in the wrong context again. So fair warning. oh But yeah. So then all of a sudden years later, you run into that that person again. You see him again. And it's like, oh, OK, this is I'm going to learn. I'm going to shoot my shot. I'm going to figure this one out this time.
Sneaker Savings Strategies
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Speaker
Uh, yeah, so I may or may not have started skimming money from the, uh, lunch money my parents were giving me. Oh, thought, you you had me thinking you were pulling stuff off the register for some reason at the start. Imagine.
00:09:23
Speaker
It's the statute limitations, right? Yeah, yeah. You're like, I was working at a deli. Oh, man. And I was just taking dollar here, dollar there. and I was working at Finish Line at that time, but i swear to... No, it was just my lunch money.
00:09:36
Speaker
Sorry, mom and dad. um And i started putting like you know a couple dollars like off to the side every day. and And what's actually...
00:09:46
Speaker
really funny is now that i think about it i was like totally not slick about it because i'd come home and i'd just like start pigging out and yeah because i wasn't you were really using the lunch right so anyway um saved up i think it was like 300 and some change which was like about the going rate um for you know a dead stock pair my size oh yeah you bought them online yeah yeah oh so okay okay Yeah, because at that point, um Space Jams had been like
Retro Release Confusions
00:10:18
Speaker
gone, right? From the market. They were dried up. It was like 2001 or 2000, I think, when they got their first real release. Yeah.
00:10:26
Speaker
um Which is always such a weird like gray area to me because they were still called like a retro 11, but technically they had never actually released. So were they really a retro or were they?
00:10:40
Speaker
It's kind of hard to say. Yeah. um I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure where. Now you got me thinking. Yeah. Well, you know, be that as it may, i still went ahead and I think I might have had PayPal at that point. i don't think.
00:10:58
Speaker
The person that I bought them from, because I want to say I got them on eBay. I still have them. um But yeah, sent the money out digitally. And somehow or another, they ended up, you know, in South Carolina. Yeah.
00:11:14
Speaker
And you're lucky they didn't make you do a money order, man. Oh, man. i Trust me. I've had my fair share and i still don't even know how that's like. Is that real? I don't know, man. I'm like, so I can go to the grocery store. i can go to like this weird section and like pull out a piece of paper. Yeah. now that they get And they get the money. like are Are we sure? Someone's getting duped here, I feel like. i don't know.
00:11:39
Speaker
um But yeah, so that was one of the first ones, like earliest memories. um And then prior to that,
00:11:52
Speaker
Well, I guess technically the 12 came out after. um and I was like, well, I got to have some new Jordan. Like, I know that I need this. Like, it's going to make me really good at basketball. Yeah. and You want to be just like Mike. Yeah. And I just wasn't, but it's okay.
00:12:09
Speaker
So anyway, I got the white and red, the original 12. Uh-huh. And I remember like, oh, yeah, I'm about to fry some people on this court. And i did, but it was myself. I like tripped over myself. Like, the I don't know if it was like the laces were too long or like the court was like too like slippery. I can't remember.
00:12:32
Speaker
But that was pretty embarrassing. And I was like well, you know, it's okay. i still look good. So it's fine. You don't got these. ah So yeah, that was... You were gagged.
00:12:43
Speaker
Yeah, I gagged myself, I guess. We'll say that. Yeah. But then, yeah, that was, like, the first one that actually, like, got instantaneously almost. um And then, man, I'll fast forward. Because, like, this was, like, the one where I was, like, really in, like, the depths of, like, sneakerdom and, like, just, like, Nike talk and...
00:13:07
Speaker
i really was on some other shit where i was like i need to get this particular pair of shoes because i know that when i step into my school like before the first period bell rings and everyone's congregating it's gonna be just complete like turmoil for everyone and people are gonna be running around like oh my like like the record stops yeah it's gonna be all that um so that was the tiffany dunk sb and at that point i had started building up a little bit of like a rapport with my local skate shop and ah walked in one day just like i already knew that they were gonna get them but ah just kept being like so uh
00:13:54
Speaker
we're getting kind of close here.
Pursuing Tiffany Dunk SBs
00:13:56
Speaker
where are they They're like, look, we got you. Don't worry. You know, just, we just asked you to buy like this hat. It was like a Tiffany hat with like the little diamond from diamond supply. It was flying it's like a flex fit hat from Nike. Like, i don't know if you remember those, but no offense. Those were, yeah they those were not my jam. i think it's still like brand new to be honest.
00:14:22
Speaker
Just didn't suit my head. um So anyway, they're like, yeah, just buy that. And like, we'll go ahead and you can have them like right now. i was like, oh, shit. like yeah This is two weeks before ah the like the official release date. Yeah. i was like, are you sure? They're like, yes, it's fine. Like, we know you want them. Like, you've been coming. Like, you're cool.
00:14:43
Speaker
And I was like, well, looks like I'm about to shit on people a little bit earlier than I thought. So anyway, gave them the money. i was even like taking like pictures back then too by the way and i'm sure we'll get to that at some point but i told like the guy i'm like i'm gonna take amazing pictures like i got you like i'm gonna give it to you on like the the arm like it's it's all good like it's like okay like sure because like at that point it's like sneaker picture yeah okay like
00:15:16
Speaker
So anyway, that was probably one of the earliest shoes I ever shot. Pictures were terrible. I don't know where those are. I wish I could find that, but we need that. You got to go in New York. Yeah, got to be somewhere. No cloud, no three and a half a floppy disk or whatever it was like None of that is going to. I think those are gone, but it's OK. Maybe a I can bring it back at some point.
00:15:39
Speaker
um But yeah, so anyway, I got the shoes. yeah Now I'm like, I got to put together the fit. Obviously, i can't. like So I think you know at that point, camo shorts just went with everything. is's like That was just like the staple. like It was either the shorts or their pants. In South Carolina, it's hot. So I obviously with the shorts and i think the shirt was probably just like one of the diamond supply shirts that they had i was like i just needed like low frame like low hanging fruit at that point i'm just gonna grab whatever is yeah this fit is gonna get off real quick prematurely um but anyway i could feel that how hyped you were oh it was great it was so great so anyway it's like the night before it's not even the first day at school by the way so like
00:16:27
Speaker
i i don't know i'm just like thinking to myself like it was like the first day of school like all over again i guess but i had the clothes laid out everything wake up probably a little bit early just to make sure everything was looking you know nice and clean according to plan yeah i'm like mom we need to get to like probably one of the only times it was like early it was like yeah why is he like trying to school so early um you know don't know so anyway you did ah did you like practice phrases in the in the mirror or something think it was more like like poses like you know like you know these hoes clean yeah that that uh angle um so then i got to school and i walked in and like in my head mm-hmm
00:17:19
Speaker
I heard like, you know, like drums and like, you know, confetti
School Reactions to Tiffany Dunks
00:17:25
Speaker
was like going, the cheerleading squad was like doing like seriously, like this is like, I like, I have a very big imagination and like, I don't, yeah I don't say this like to like embellish, like this is literally like my head. Like I really, yeah I got to like learn to sometimes like lower my expectations. Cause let me tell you, that was like,
00:17:46
Speaker
yeah i think one person was like oh cool shoes that was it and i was like are y'all fucking kidding like do you not understand like i was like telling people and educating them at that point like look i i know you don't understand but like this is not your regular dunk it's not like some of the kids i think they probably thought it was just like an air force one right yeah because like kids didn't really know like ah some some but it's definitely a a you if you know you know yeah yeah so anyway I'm like fuck it y'all are a lost cause like I'm just gonna keep marching to my own drum here cause did you at least post them on Nike Talk or something like got these early I think I had like posted just like a real like quick shitty picture cause like I still hadn't late really like fallen like into that lane just yet um
00:18:39
Speaker
But yeah, so that was that was definitely one of like those shoes i needed needed to have. you know i wish I still had them, but um unfortunately, they got thrashed, and then I had to pass them off to somebody else because they were just like disgusting.
00:18:59
Speaker
And I still made some money. i was like shocked. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure you probably make some more money on it now. if you like Yeah. You know, like hindsight. It's one of those shoes that are just all time, like all time love. Yeah. Like everybody talks about it being like one of the best like shoe. I mean, for me, number one is like the flan. Like I'm an SB head. So it's just like.
00:19:20
Speaker
Flams is one. that's who is like Huff. But I'm also like, I love Hives too. and But Tiffany Dunks is definitely a shoe where it's just... I remember first getting into SB and like seeing that color and...
00:19:34
Speaker
um there was so i've i was at i used to go to school i went out to college for print and so there was always this every single time you you you hear about like how tiffany like the tiffany brand like they have to what they do is they own the tiffany pantone colorway and then when everybody and and when anybody uses it They have to pay them. So if they're like, hey, we want to run an ad in them in the newspaper, you still have to pay us to run an ad for that we're paying you to do. So it's like the most insane like yeah circle that is being done with that. um so
00:20:17
Speaker
But like hearing about it, hearing about it, and then you see you know then you hear about the the Tiffany Duncan and not really being the Tiffany color. It's as close as it can get. Yeah, without them. Yeah.
00:20:29
Speaker
Sorry, without them just completely getting, you know, sued. and Yeah. it's It's just crazy. and like yeah For me, my ah my actually, I'm trying to think. I think my first pair of SB Dunks was actually the Reese Forb, the Hunter, the Lowe with like the quilted orange ah liner. And that was just like on some real like I was like kind of trolling like a lot of the kids at my school with that one. And like, that was like my like artistic expression of being like saying fuck you to like some of like, like the redneck kids that were always like, you know, i just, I didn't really bang with them that much, you know, like that was like,
00:21:09
Speaker
some of them had good hearts but man some of them just really missed me like with the logic and like or lack thereof right you know uh like they wore like the real tree like cam oh okay i get what that was like sort of like the tie back to that and like man i used to be such a like a little like fucker honestly like with like the way i was like trolling like the kids and you know maybe they didn't even know but uh you remember like Hollister and like the polos with like the bird yeah so I had my mom
00:21:42
Speaker
ah So I got one because like that was also like a very big like piece like amongst the the preppy slash rednecks, whatever crowd.
Fashion Trolling in High School
00:21:52
Speaker
And I remember i was like, I had this hilarious idea. i was like, hey, Ma, could you like just embroider like a few different like droppings like under the bird? And that was just like me being like shitting on y'all. yeah so late that was like early street wear you were like playing chess 3D chess yeah um and it was just it was man it was like such a good era too cause like you had um
00:22:25
Speaker
digital gravel which was like sort of my entry point for like a lot of the streetwear shirts like especially like the hundreds and um i think there was some other ones i mean you got crooks yep um yeah rocks lamar and dolly that was one of my favorites man like i loved me some lamar and dolly i had this one andre agassi t-shirt it was like red and it had him with like the hair yeah bright yellow oh man that's stars and we i was just talking about lamar and dolly with my friend and think it was like they're trying either i don't know if i'm even allowed to even talk about this but like it's either like you have to cut it if nah it's staying in okay because i'm not sure it could i could be absolutely wrong but they're like talking about um looking at references because i think they're trying to bring it back o so yeah
00:23:20
Speaker
Okay. You heard it here first. Yeah. yeah i could be I could be wrong. And I also could just be, you know exploding at NDA right now. But yeah, we'll see. Hey, ask for forgiveness, not permission. That's what I've learned throughout these years. Yeah. ah I'm definitely curious of like, how did, how does your family, you know, end up in South Carolina, South Carolina,
00:23:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. yeah is The Carolinas, always mess up. Don't worry. So many people do it. At this point, I'm kind of immune to it. um But yeah, South Carolina. And, you know, it's ah it's an interesting thing that I'm still late learning to this day.
00:24:01
Speaker
I know that we kind of started off. ah where you Where's your family from originally? like So my my dad is originally from, and my mom are originally from South Carolina. Mm-hmm. But then they started moving up north at one point. This was before I was born, technically. I think um they moved to Hershey, Pennsylvania. Yeah.
00:24:24
Speaker
Big fans of chocolate. Oh, yeah. It's like I'm genetically predisposed to loving that shit. um And then so i think at one point or another, they were like in Alabama. But i came into the picture when they moved to Chattanooga, Tennessee, home of the moon pies.
00:24:44
Speaker
I don't know if you ever had a moon pie. course. Yeah. Okay. I'm a banana moon pie guy. i got to go. Sorry. I got to leave. No, I'm kidding. I've actually never even had it. I just, I stick with the classic, but um yeah, that's, that's where they're made.
00:25:00
Speaker
Yep. Chattanooga, Tennessee. Chattanooga, Tennessee. Me and home pies. Yeah. Right here. Who's putting on? um But i I think we only like lived there for maybe like a year or something before we ended up moving back to South Carolina. um So yeah. so then But we were in like upstate at that point, Greenville, South Carolina.
00:25:24
Speaker
And then inevitably moved a little bit more south to Goose Creek. and yeah and so and like i think it was all kind of just like based on like all right my dad because my dad he used to work at russell um okay um and he athletics yeah oh wow okay yeah pretty cool um and he uh was i can't remember like what position like he he was like at corporate like or whatever and like had like a pretty cool role there um and he still swears to like
00:25:57
Speaker
their quality like to this day it is good quality yeah i'm like drink the little the company cool there too much dad uh chill out um but yeah so then i think it was more so just like trying to you know follow like the wherever like the career path was taken you know type situation so very i mean that's i mean well first like the the whole I feel like it's like a full circle moment if you're just like you're because you also got to work within yeah you know yeah when uh product yeah Kith ended up doing um did they do it it was a Russell collab I believe it was like a bunch of different I don't think it was champion it was pretty sure it Russell can we get a fact check on that man I I always come always like compare my my um my tenure at Kith as like
00:26:50
Speaker
and i mean this with like the utmost respect but it was the equivalent of being in like a hyperbolic chamber like on dragon ball z yeah you know and like all this it's like kind of like going so it feels like it so much i mean it was a long time but it is it is a russell russell it was right okay cool so like when we ended up doing that collab i was just like this is so funny yeah But yeah, so sometimes my timelines, I do apologize if I ah get stuff mixed up or whatever, like even like the the collab itself. But seems like I still have a pretty good head on my shoulders. You're good.
00:27:28
Speaker
be So like the the journey,
Introducing Sneaker Culture in South Carolina
00:27:32
Speaker
right? Where now we know that like. sneaker culture. you are you are a part You got to experience it even though it's like mainly online. you know But you brought it. that The craziest part is bringing it to South Carolina, your high school. yeah so yeah what i mean You only touched on it a little bit, but like what was that What was that like? Were people just judging you or were you just like... Oh, man.
00:27:58
Speaker
I don't know if it was like the sneakers as much as like some of the clothing that I was wearing. that was I mean, people were definitely like, why is why do you have so many... like shit like you must be like You must have like a foot fetish. that that's the only reason That's the only logical thing that I can think of.
00:28:16
Speaker
You're obsessed with feet. And like, no. like i just... i mean Whatever. Anyway, I love sneakers simply because to me they've always been wearable art.
00:28:29
Speaker
And I like art. And I love just being able to like look down and be like, damn, this looks... insane you know and like sometimes it's also just like uh self-expression you know and um some days i'm feeling like super like futuristic and then other days i'm feeling like you know just kind of plain jane and and that's why i love them because like they can kind of just like tell the story of a mood that i might be in without me having to like say much because
00:29:05
Speaker
I really just don't like talking to to people a lot, Haas. No offense. yous yeah Thank you. We're going to talk some more, though. Don't worry. um Yeah. but And so the one thing I definitely like growing up and being into sneakers also is just like, well, in the city, it's a lot different.
00:29:24
Speaker
But because you get pockets of it like there there's always going to be like people in the jordans like the the the mainstream sneakers i'm mr big underground like you know i'm i defy i'm a very defy different defy or whatever yeah but i still had love for sneakers and so like you see how people interact with it in this in the city level but like when you're in a small rural town yeah and you're getting all this crazy stuff and you're like yeah you don't understand yeah and like not to take yeah i know I mean, not to take away because there were definitely people that... um
00:30:03
Speaker
that appreciated it wasn't like i was like the only single no we had places mostly it was like the mall you know i think i was listening to um want to say was her name melissa melissa chanel yeah yeah and you know i i think she's from south carolina originally and i remember um like we would go to florence south carolina which is i think more towards where she was originally from and there was a foot action there and they had, an LS account, like lifestyle for Jordan.
00:30:36
Speaker
And I remember going there to get the grape, uh, Jordan five, like when it first retro, yeah you know? Um, so, and I, I was with like, you know, a few of my friends and like, there was a line when we got there. So like people got it, you know what I mean? But like the mall was definitely a big, um, you know, outlet for people,
00:30:58
Speaker
for the most part, supplying like footwear. So it was like a lot of like the new Jordans and like, you know, different air force ones once in a while at the finish line that I worked at, we would get, cause we were the big third biggest finish line in the Southeast region. Yeah.
00:31:14
Speaker
Team 301 shout out. shout um and sometimes so like sometimes we would get some pretty cool stuff. Like you remember the SVSM Air Force One, which was made with like coach leather, which is kind of cool when you think about like.
00:31:28
Speaker
Like coach the brand? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Pretty sure. I didn't know that. Yeah. You might want to fact check that one, too. Sometimes I just be throwing out, you know, random things. And he's like, I got to make sure this doesn't sound right.
00:31:40
Speaker
Unless there's like some other. Unless there's like some other coach leather situation thing that I'm not familiar with. Let's see. Man, they were super buttery. I remember just thinking, i'm should be paying way more for this. like Can I pay you a little more? i get I can't find it.
00:31:59
Speaker
So... Well, it was like that forest green. We'll go with it. Yeah. Trust me. It's made with the finest coach leather of all time. The finest coach leather. They pulled it out of their archives. Yeah. Hey, we know the perfect thing for this.
00:32:14
Speaker
um So, yeah, I mean, for me... ah I appreciated that, but I also wanted to find other things that um maybe were a little bit more like rare and like harder to find. And feel like SB, which is probably like a cliche within like our world at this point, but it really was sort of. you think so i think so i mean like when you get to like people like of my age and like that you know about the same age yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna go with that okay so you know i feel like to me like ah you know it really introduced even though nike and like other brands like brands had done collaborations pre sb yeah i feel like that was like when it really started to to like bubble up with like the co collapse i get that but i think what i
00:33:07
Speaker
king i like or what i think they should get credit for was allowing for like bright storytelling yeah you know storytelling uh yeah i mean just like very if people knew like the actual story it probably wouldn't have happened like yeah And like, obviously back. Yeah. You need that back. I think it can get there. I think it can. i don't think we'll be able to get it won't get exactly like that because like, like we're never going to get like a, a Boyos Hermanos dunk low. Like, now you know, like, and we're the ones calling it that, like, we're not going to get, you know, i don't know. I'm trying to even think of Jack Reacher. Well, I did.
00:33:50
Speaker
Yeah. No, I know. Maybe shouldn't get that. Possibly couldn't do without it. um But no, I mean, don't know for sure but is that dot swoosh donkey kong air max one like it's not an official official like the same with tomb raider one yeah so like i think it's kind of like touching into like that space but you know but i think that is like but it's a little too maybe on the nose it is on the nose that's what i was just about to say because it's it's like it's like a it's like a like they're just like nudging you uh-huh it's definitely no peewee herman dunk no right where it's like wait why is the silhouette of this guy in the theater like on the theater chair like what hell is that about even like
00:34:36
Speaker
mork and bendy's where it's like it's literally just a mork suit and yeah yeah and you or even ah which never came out the heaven gates oh man just do it yeah for real man like or even drop the damn shoe give me the um i don't know is it like a air max it's not an air max one it's like ah forgot the name of the model. I literally just looking at it. But the the all they all wore the same sneakers.
00:35:04
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. so is it an air It's not an air stop. No, but I know they're like. I know what you're talking about. It's the famous picture with like the feet up. Yeah. They need to just drop that shoe again.
00:35:14
Speaker
And just not say anything. Yeah. Just like that silhouette. Don't put any like color up or any, just like secretly drop them. Like, at like, I don't know, like pay less or something. Just call it a dick. DSW, throw it on a DSW shelf. That would be so fine.
00:35:33
Speaker
So, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think, ah I think that it's important to evolve as well and not just always, i mean, it's tough because I really do feel like we kind of grew up in like a golden era, yeah but I still see stuff that like excites me to like, to this day. And, you know, it's kind of like what keeps me going, you know, it's sort of the, the battery in my back, so to speak. But yeah, man, I think, I think it's like,
00:36:07
Speaker
It's different and like we're not used to that different, but I think that um I have you know optimism that it's it's going to continue to be good. It's just going to be a different kind of good. and Yeah.
00:36:22
Speaker
you know try i try because like a lot of times I find myself being like, what? wait you know like wait like you know But I think you just got to try to always have like that perspective of where's the silver lining. Right, yeah.
00:36:38
Speaker
it's I think we, and I mean, it's part of the recreation why I created this podcast, but I'm very optimistic. like yeah but ah I'm an optimistic person. I mean, in terms of just like, I'm going to get everything, but I'm going eventually get sneakers that I will enjoy. I'm going to always try.
00:36:56
Speaker
I like a lot of the stuff that comes out just on a on a I guess, just like an appreciation type of basis. Yeah. um I do look forward to getting in that new pair when that new pair is like, yo, I gotta to get like the Nigel's like, I'm like, yeah, I need to have those super buttery, super. Don't rub it in my face. I didn't get them. I feel confident you will somehow find a way, but um yeah, no, I mean, the thing also too is, and I think you had mentioned this in another podcast where you were talking about the,
00:37:33
Speaker
the nature of sort of the beast today is where when you get something, it's almost like, okay, cool. I got it. What's next on to like the next one. And I, I do think that, you know, I'm even, excuse me. I think I'm even guilty of that to like a certain degree where it's like,
00:37:52
Speaker
It's almost like achievement award, achievement award, achievement award. And it's like, I'm not really taking the time to like appreciate them for like the reason I did in the first place, you know? And especially when you start amassing like so a certain, like a level and like amount of, you know, sneakers, it's just, man, it is kind of hard to just like go back and like wear some of them and like really like, yeah.
00:38:17
Speaker
So yeah. i mean and also i mean it's got to be even tough because you're holding such like crazy pairs and taking pictures of them and you're like okay but should i really try for this pair when i have this pair in front of me that was yeah yeah but also i wanted to know how'd you get into that like ah what how did the did you stumble into it for me, it was um this realization that basketball was not going to be, you know, my like my road to success.
Photography Journey Beginnings
00:38:54
Speaker
Yeah. Right.
00:38:55
Speaker
So how many how many points are you putting up a game? You know, I was very good with, ah you know, some of the lockdown defense. Yeah. Like I was like one of those like gritty players where like I was like getting into the trenches. Hart. Yeah, exactly. That kind of caliber. um But yeah. So like for me, I was like, okay, I still really love sneakers. I'm starting to kind of amass like a little bit of a, you know,
00:39:23
Speaker
collection here it's like maybe like 20 pairs or whatever um and at that point i also had been just like scrubbing the internet especially ah like nike talk and you know in style shoes and you know i think even you are ah big proponent of uh the nsp oh yeah uh org yes sir oh so i'm like looking at all this stuff and then simultaneously i get uh sort of just like the the free throw in digital camera that came with uh our family's computer because that was like a thing at that point for some reason i went to pc richard yeah something like that uh our version of it down there good city yeah probably and you know i guess they're like trying to really hook people to buy certain like oh here's a camera and they're like all right um so i got this camera think it was like a kodak easy share one megapixel point and shoot crazy whatever and i'm like oh cool
00:40:32
Speaker
So I'm going to bring this all around. Trust me. But there's also another diversion here where in high school they started at a photography club. And i was like, oh, well, I got a camera and I like taking pictures. So I'm enjoying that. And I think that it's going to look good on the resume. So yeah.
00:40:50
Speaker
you know uh hopefully i'll get into a good college yeah like that yeah he he did photography club it was the first year oh yeah he's a head of it um yeah exactly ah cum laude yeah um so anyway ah i wasn't really that good you know um i think just like what i was taking pictures of at that time just wasn't really striking people was like sunsets and like Mm
00:41:26
Speaker
i remember i submitted a couple of pictures because part of the photography club was we would submit pictures to the ah the county fair I did not even get an honorable mention, that let alone of a ribbon of any sort. i took that very personal. That was like the beginning of the meme right here. Yeah. Insert right there. um So anyway, I was like, well, I still got this camera. I so i like taking the pictures. I just need to find the subject.
00:41:56
Speaker
Then I see Nike talk. like pops up with a thread and I finally see it and it says like post your six sneaker pictures i was like let me see what we got going on here so I start you know perusing and I'm like damn this is this is is exactly sort of how I view sneakers like people are kind of getting and I was like I think I can do this so you know thus began the journey and um ah started like really ah
00:42:28
Speaker
taking my time and you know i already knew a lot about footwear anyway so i knew a lot of and like i would look at my shoes all the time anyway like a like a psychopath you know just studying your subjects yeah you know so i knew that i knew that yeah i knew the angles yeah like you know um man it was it was like a match made in heaven for me and um from there i just i never really looked back you know that was that was a was a good moment yeah and so what like what made you move out and you know pursue this full time So
Support from Sneaker Boutiques and Economic Challenges
00:43:10
Speaker
it wasn't happening. I couldn't find like a lot of people that was like, I need sneaker pictures. what do you got for me? Um, you know, i had a friend who actually, um he owned a store back in the day called sweet soul.
00:43:23
Speaker
And it was like really the first sneaker boutique, uh, ever in that area yeah um and you know bless his heart like gustavo's name um he was giving me work as much as he could but it was like not enough for me to obviously you know make a a good like living off of so You know, I'm trying here and there, and eventually they had to close down because that was, like, unfortunately right around, ah like, the financial collapse of 2008. Yeah. You know?
00:43:59
Speaker
So that was, you know, an unfortunate thing. Yeah. I think fast forward, there was another boutique that opened up and um i was kind of helping out with them. And, you know, this was all just like on the side. Like at this point, I also had a job at like Starbucks. Like, I don't think I'll ever get any kind of partnership with them after everything I've said in previous things, but it's okay. um Talk Starbucks.
00:44:30
Speaker
And so Yeah, I was doing an early shift because I knew that there were some ASICs coming out online. And there were actually some people, like some reps of Huff that come in. was like, geez, guys, it's a little early. I got this like, got a sneaker launch that got to try. I to get these shoes.
00:44:52
Speaker
um and so i kind of was like not like standoffish but you know if you like just looked at me like you could tell that like my mind was elsewhere like i'm like looking in the this the computer screen like yeah uh-huh you know trying to like click and get the shoes um and the shoes were uh ronnie feig's uh ecp dauphin uh asics oh i had i got the knicks Yeah. And you know, what's funny about that is that was the pair that I wanted. I really wanted the Knicks, but I clicked on like some Twitter link and it pulled me up to the Dolphins. And like at that point, it's like, you just got to go. You know, there's there's no like, you know, like choosing here at this point. You just got to grab something.
00:45:35
Speaker
um Shout out team manual. Never had a bot. I can like, I can proudly say I never had a bot. um It's definitely i've done auto refresh, but not. Yeah. i mean, that's a little different. yeah I still consider that. Yeah. No buy here. No ads to carts.
00:45:49
Speaker
um So anyway, ah i get them in the mail and they, damn, ASICs, these are crazy. like The color was so rich, the materials, it was like unlike any um you know ASICs I had personally seen like in my area. So I'm like, oh these are cool. like I'm gonna definitely take pictures.
00:46:11
Speaker
So a friend of mine um had a couple of friends that wanted couples pictures and I was the photographer, you know, even though that was not really my lane, I was like, all right, like it's for you. Like I got you. And you know, the guy paid me like pretty decently. So i was like, cool, i get some money, but I'm also going to bring these shoes along.
00:46:35
Speaker
and I was like, I know the perfect place, guys, where we can take these pictures. um When truth be told, it was really more so I just knew where I wanted to shoot the shoes.
Instagram Breakthrough and New York Opportunity
00:46:46
Speaker
So I kind of just ran through that shoot real quick. And then um after they left, like I was like getting in my car, like even like really selling it like, oh, I'm leaving. Like,
00:46:58
Speaker
Coast was clear. i was like, all right, time to get these Asics out and go shoot. um I must have spent like, I don't know, maybe an hour on them.
00:47:10
Speaker
The shoes I spent probably four hours on. So yeah. So anyway, and I'm glad I did it because I got this one. one picture i was like man this is this is my like mona lisa this is my like sistine chapel like this is this is great i love it so ah went home i was like i'm immediately editing this picture And at this point, Instagram had kind of like started, you know, becoming a thing, except you could only post one picture. Right. Yeah. So you got to make it count. Yeah. So i was like, well, have two other pictures that I don't like, but nah, this is the one.
00:47:52
Speaker
So I edited it. And at that time, i believe it was the Knicks and the Pacers playing in the playoffs. um And this is when. ah I couldn't tell Roy Hibbert went crazy or whatever? to he ah ought To be honest, this was like a surprise, I think, even to the Knicks that they were in the playoffs because it was like the first time in a long time pre like the new Knicks. you know um Way pre that.
00:48:20
Speaker
So anyway, I knew Ronnie was probably at the game. Yeah. and it was kind of like around like halftime so i was like fuck it i'm gonna post it now he's what could he possibly be doing he's he's just chilling it's halftime like whatever so um i put the picture up and this is even pre like you couldn't you couldn't tag anybody you just had to like mention them in the caption right yeah so i just said at ronnie i don't know why i'm typing as if it's a keyboard it's a phone it's At Ronnie Feig, you're going to give them me an opportunity to shoot for you. And I said, publish post out into the universe.
00:49:01
Speaker
And I want to say maybe like five, six minutes later, i got a like from Ronnie Feig. And I was like, oh, shit. Like, he likes it. But dot, dot, dot.
00:49:14
Speaker
Where are we going? on. Refresh, refresh, refresh. Uh-huh. Sure enough, a comment pops up, like, maybe 20 seconds later. i will. And I was like, you would have thought i had just, like, fucking hit like, a game-winning shot in the playoffs myself, the way I jumped up. I was like, Jordan on Craig Elo and the the fours, you know? Like, ah, man, that was, that was, like, such a ah moment that would forever heart would have popped out my chest and ran.
00:49:44
Speaker
I can't believe it I'm out. I had already started packing my suitcase. um Unfortunately, it wasn't such a quick turnaround. I still had to go back to Starbucks a little bit.
00:49:59
Speaker
um events i was i was like... on some other shit when i was like rolling up to like starbucks at that point like you know you hot shit jesus was like fresh off like the you know the press and i'm like blasting it in my car pulling up to the shift like on some like o i can't wait because this is you won't be seeing me very much longer i assure you that I ended up quitting because I just couldn't take it any longer. um i started working actually at Finish Line again. um Sneaky save your life again. It really did. But simultaneously at this point, they were like Kith, Ronnie was sending me product to shoot um back home.
00:50:43
Speaker
And so i was building the relationship that way. And ah yeah, eventually we got to like the ah Volcano Jell-A5 Asics. And that was like, I got away. And that was the first time i got to shoot like sneakers. Like, cause before that it was more like Sabagos and stuff like that.
00:51:05
Speaker
Um, I have those. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was actually my first, brawny collab was a pair of, uh, sabagos he did that had like the little tassel like it was a high boot and had a tassel on the front yeah yeah that was my first uh introduction that was a full circle moment for me there you go um so yeah man ah after that ah volcano gel light five that i just i said man i'm i'm leaving it all out here on the day like i'm gonna go fucking nuts and like i did like two or three shoots and i just like each one was like
00:51:42
Speaker
a version of that miami gel light three like it was like banger after banger like there was like one like uh like it was like a salt like i don't know you know like salt sheds yeah except it wasn't in a shed it was just a mounds of salt or whatever but it looked insane it looked like some kind of like volcano like atmosphere at like ish um and i went crazy on that and yeah i just like i really could not miss it felt like at that point i yeah typed in the cheat code pulled out the game shark you know and just went crazy and then after that we got on a call and i'm like all right man what's going on like i've been doing this now sort of like you know freelance um
00:52:30
Speaker
what's good yeah uh so then at that point he was like yeah come you know come to new york and do this internship and man internship after all of that listen i know i i know i totally resonate with that but i was like you know what i mean yeah it's still that i'm going even harder now you know what it's like at that point New York was just like this mythical land to
First New York Sneaker Release Experience
00:52:55
Speaker
me. Like I, I remember, do you remember that website? i think it was called Threadless.
00:53:01
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So I had bought this shirt that said, i have never been to New York and that I have like never, the have never been was like in the form of a heart. And that was sort of like my motivation. I'd put that on and I'd look in the mirror and like,
00:53:17
Speaker
one day you're going to take this shirt off you know because you're going to be there and yeah so then i i love this competitiveness yeah so i so i came up man i came up to to new york for the flamingo gel light three uh release just because at that point we were kind of in contact and I was like trying to meet up with Ronnie and that didn't happen. So I was like, oh no, what have I done? ah But I loved, I loved it when I came here, man. I was like, man, this, I knew this is what felt like home. Like I remember going back to the airport, just thinking,
00:53:54
Speaker
I'm coming back. like This is not like the last of it. So yeah, man. um That, I mean, taking, taking that like flyer on this, like opportunities super.
00:54:07
Speaker
It's like, um how old are you at that time? twenty 24 24 24 doing that yeah it was it was crazy because like at that point it was like you know my family's like right like so i dropped out at college to like try to help my my pops with like his his business and like that wasn't happening and then starbucks that clearly wasn't fucking happening and then it's like all right well you gotta go back to school if you're not gonna
00:54:40
Speaker
I was like, I can't do it. I just won't. I just, yeah. And I didn't, you know, I, I just never looked back and I was like, I'm going all in on this. And yeah, man, now we're here.
00:54:52
Speaker
I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. I mean, look, you've been on a extremely crazy run ever since then too, because yeah, everybody like, yeah I feel like you are go-to person yeah if you want Your shit represented correctly. Thank you. So it's like.
00:55:11
Speaker
You know the thing is. is like and Maybe this is part of. Just. How I keep going. it's like I never even view myself that way. And like I never.
00:55:22
Speaker
Wake up thinking. Like where's. Where's my opportunity. like what's What's going on. I never like really. um Spend a lot of time. like I'll take a picture.
00:55:34
Speaker
ah that comes out really nice or you know what have you. And I'll be like, good job. But then I keep it moving. And then if anything, I'll go back you know next day, two days later, and I'll start critiquing my own felt like really just like obsessing over it not from the sake like that i think it's amazing like oh look at what i do you know i'm like that's good but this could be much better like the light could do this a little bit better you know the the lace whatever it is it's like i'm always trying to like outdo myself yeah i mean
00:56:14
Speaker
It's a I think that's the key of like because you're not you're not picking yourself apart. You're like, I'm just want to refine the next one is going to be better than the last one. Correct. um I know i recently tweeted something. It was something to to something to that where it's just like.
00:56:31
Speaker
There you should always be your best stuff is your la people will know you from the last thing you put out. for sure And so if you aren't just constant con ah consistently just trying to do better than the last thing you put out, then it's kind of just like you're going to feel stagnant. You're not going to want to keep going. And, you know, on top of that, you still have to love what you're doing. So.
00:56:52
Speaker
if you're you're just constantly bashing yourself like oh this is whack this is whack instead of being like all right cool that's you know i did that all now how do i make it a little bit better yeah you know i think that the perspective perspective perspective is everything yeah and so yeah no i mean that's 100 and You know, it's ah it's not easy. Yeah, I'll tell you that. I mean, like I've been doing this professionally for over like 12 years now. And there's definitely points in time where I'm like, man, like, does anybody like truly care? Like, this is that like, like, listen, I'm there with you.
00:57:31
Speaker
And like i fall into it like once in a blue, but I just know that, you know, why I started to begin with. And that was for like the love of it, you know, and obviously I need to make a living. Like anybody that tells you that like money is not like any part of the equation is god bless yeah like i i respectfully have to disagree i don't think it's everything but you need you need to be able to live you know like like
00:58:08
Speaker
Starving artists. like I don't want to be on some Ramadan shit for the longest time. like i just Let me eat some. you know and like I'm pretty simple. like when a I don't wear jewelry. I don't wear a lot of jewelry. I'm not super flat.
00:58:26
Speaker
But I do like my kicks. right I like some clothes here and there. But you know i as so long as I can like afford that, have a nice place, eat, you know, pretty good. Like I'm chilling, but like, I, I sometimes fear that, you know, the trend of sort of just like doing it for the love and doing it for the gram can sort of plateau the community as a whole. Yeah.
00:58:59
Speaker
And that to me is where, you know, sometimes I feel like maybe I need to to be like a villain or like the anti-hero or something like somebody that will come off as like, oh, what a fucking prick that guy is. But like, you'll understand it later, you know, where it's like, really, I'm.
00:59:22
Speaker
Trying to help in a ah roundabout way and I can't really explain it, but I promise you it's gonna land and you'll thank me later. But yeah, it's tough, man. Like I just get tired sometimes, you know, I'm just like, oh, like I can't really.
00:59:41
Speaker
I don't post nearly as much just because of that same sentiment in a sense where it's like, I don't want to water it down. And I don't. And I know like the algorithm is like, you got to post all the time. Yeah, all the time.
00:59:55
Speaker
where you been yeah you know um but just think that you know we gotta we gotta to take these sort of like mental hiatuses sometimes oh yeah for really like that way one for your own sanity but two for like the art of it because if you're just churning out the same thing over and over you're gonna water it down that's just like that's just the way the world is man like if you keep dropping the same shoe over and over with like a massive amount of pairs each time might start they might start sitting they might go on sale you know they might get our aid you know like you gotta be mindful it's like life is really balanced um yeah so
01:00:44
Speaker
That's where we're at.
Reflections on Growth and Sneaker Culture Impact
01:00:45
Speaker
Yeah. So we're at the towards the end of the podcast and deals with the visualization. All right. One second. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. We forgot to break out. they We got to break up. I got to got to Mr. Rogers. this change but we're This is not a bit by any means. I do want to get this was sort of like a visualization in itself.
01:01:07
Speaker
Uh huh. Sort of. fit that i really wanted to get off today so oh my okay so we're gonna go with the the monopoly whoops I yeah you can't take that off yeah these are the monopoly uh LeBron ACG air zoom generation and don't I don't know if these like these are technically released. I don't think. but No, they didn't. um
01:01:38
Speaker
And I don't know how many pairs they did. Like i think they only did like 100 maybe or so. Yeah, it was like, yeah, it was a small amount. Anyway, ah little. A little friend of mine sent them my way. So I want to just fire. Yeah. i just wanted to throw these on real quick because this was really the this was the idea of the fit. Yeah. Pant bringing back in like sort of like the brown in the shoe.
01:02:01
Speaker
And then you remember the swagger Terminators? Yeah. You remember how one was like one one was one kind of like the turquoise. Yeah, it's like was yeah, I thought it was like red. Is it like run red or burgundy is like a burgundy is like a brownish burgundy somewhere in that. Yeah, browns. ah So anyway, that was sort of like famously. lu a yes mr Mr. Fiasco.
01:02:26
Speaker
yeah Sorry if this takes a little long. ah I want to make sure we're we're looking nice and spiffy here. No, for sure. But I can multitask. Well, I'm actually terrible at it. but legal the yeah let's let me go did that want you to visualize you visualize as a let's Jams them.
01:02:44
Speaker
let's do the concord right so i you think back to to young young tyler yeah and ah he's about to open that box with the with the space jams in them Yes. Right. Yes. You got them. I finally, after taking all the money from lunch money. Yeah. And now and you're you transported back in time. What would you tell your younger self as he opens that box?
01:03:10
Speaker
Man, look, Tyler, you're going to you're going to go through the ringer and it's going to be OK. People are not going to understand what the fuck is going on.
01:03:21
Speaker
Thank you. people are People are not going to really get it. And that's okay because it's it's not for them to get. As long as you are getting it, then you're going to get it. And, um you know, it's it's not going to be like the easiest of rides trying to convince people that the world needs these high-end, elevated sneaker pictures.
01:03:44
Speaker
but You're going to break through, and you're going to be able to change the game. And then once you change the game, you're going to continue to evolve within the game that you have changed and just take it to different levels. And you you're going to meet some great people around the way.
01:04:04
Speaker
You're going to meet your wife because of it. You're going to get... All the sneakers that you have fantasized about that you didn't even know that existed. You're going to end up getting another pair of space jams with the 45 on the back.
01:04:19
Speaker
As long as you just continue to stay true to yourself. that so That's beautiful, man. And... maybe put a little bit of money into Apple or something. yeah Yeah. You got to get in early. You got to get it early.
01:04:33
Speaker
Uh, let everybody didn' know where to find you. Uh, mostly just, uh, Instagram. You can also find me on, I'm not calling it what it's called these days. so I'm going just call it Twitter, but Twitter and Instagram, uh, Arab Lincoln, uh, underscore on the Instagram and between the Arab and the Lincoln and no underscore on Twitter.
01:04:57
Speaker
I can't even remember why I decided to put the underscore on Instagram. Somebody else, some imposter must have got it. Yeah. The sans underscore motherfucker. He's the, he's the one that has the the pictures of the, of the Tiffany, Tiffany dunks on there. Yeah. He's holding it hostage. He's like one day, this is going to pay off this floppy disc. I know it.
01:05:18
Speaker
ah You know where to find me. I am. Who is awesome. All social media. Follow the podcast. And my first kicks pod. you know You're not going to be able to get those. I'm taking this right off after the podcasts are being put back in the box and maybe one day I'll sell them as pads.
01:05:36
Speaker
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01:05:47
Speaker
If you have a My First Kicks story, would love to read it to a guests. Hit me up info at myfirstkicks.com. um New shirts should be up, I think, soon. I think so.
01:05:58
Speaker
ah Those will definitely ship out as you buy them. um And then trying to even think what else. ah Am I missing anything? no make sure you you give my guy a follow yo and uh shout out packer shoes too by the way they've been my latest and greatest as far as like being able to like go and really start elevating other product as well so shout out mike hopefully maybe we could get him i don't know i'm down hell yeah maybe he would come on to the podcast there was i ran into ah quick quick
01:06:30
Speaker
uh just a side note because of packer but i ran into iman shumpert oh shit and literally i stopped him i was just like was like you don't understand how bad i wanted those those packer iman shumpert what did he say he was just he was so high he was just like yeah oh you're talking about oh the spot in jersey my god was like Yeah, man. If you ever want to do my podcast, let me know. just Those moments never really seem to unfold exactly how you want. Just like me. I'm fine with it.
01:07:01
Speaker
It's like my version of the the Tiffany dunk in high school. First day. mean, I'm fine with it, man. And you know what we say each week, man? Wear your kicks. Peace.