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300M Losses & $650 Legos: Is the Gaming Industry in a Tailspin?
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Episode Summary
Is the gaming industry entering a "negative flywheel"? This week, we dive into the staggering reports of Black Ops 6 underperforming and what it means for the future of Microsoft Gaming and potential layoffs. We also tackle Jeff Bezos’ controversial take on the death of the PC and why "anti-appliance" gaming is the future—even if latency remains our biggest enemy. Plus, we explore the "Whales of Gaming": why middle-aged millennials just dropped $650 on Pokemon Legos and how nostalgia is driving a new premium tier in the industry.
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Key Takeaways
- The Microsoft Dilemma: If the biggest game of the year reportedly loses $300M, how does the industry pivot to save costs without a "tailspin" of layoffs?
- The Cloud vs. The Box: Why Jeff Bezos thinks your local PC is going away, and the "speed of light" problem holding back cloud gaming for competitive players.
- Nostalgia as a Business Model: How Pokemon and Lego are "teaming up" to capture the high-disposable income of adult collectors while the younger generation sticks to free-to-play.
- Crypto Farmers' Last Laugh: Why the hardware once used for mining is now the most valuable asset in the AI revolution.
Timestamps
- 00:00 – Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 and the $300M Microsoft "Loss"
- 02:55 – Jeff Bezos vs. PC Gamers: Is the hardware era ending?
- 04:40 – The Latency Problem: Why cloud gaming can't beat the speed of light
- 08:20 – The $1,000 Gaming Machine: Why hardware costs are skyrocketing
- 11:30 – Lego Pokemon & The "Whale" Audience: Why we can't let go of childhood
- 18:30 – The Five-Headed Dragon: How Pokemon conquered every medium
- 24:30 – Personal Faves: Our "Mount Rushmore" of Pokemon
Connect with the Show
- Greg Posner: Playerdriven.io
- Colan Neese: SVP of Gaming at Screen Engine ASI. Find him on LinkedIn or subscribe to his newsletter, Patch Notes, on Substack.
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Transcript
Introduction and PlayerDriven Overview
00:00:00
Speaker
you Welcome to PlayerDriven, Greg here. So we're trying something new this week. This week, while we're at Pocket Gamers London, you should check out what's going on at playerdriven.io or if you're not following us on the social channels, we're learning about what's going on LiveOps, AI and gaming, transmedia, so much great stuff. But what we're gonna do this week is we're gonna actually play for you what we talked about on PlayerDriven Live this week, which is what we run on Thursdays. This is a conversation between Colin, Nisa and I. We're breaking down what's going on in the gaming industry.
00:00:30
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ah While it's happening and it's really cool stuff. It's live 1pm on Easterns typically every Thursday. The time might fluctuate but you can find it on YouTube or
Event Planning and Industry News
00:00:39
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LinkedIn. We mess with the channels if you want to listen to that. We're also planning an event for Dyson. I'm really excited about that. I've never planned an event for before but we're doing it. We got people already signed up to go. If you're in the Vegas area, early February, let us know. We'd love to meet up what's going on. And we are in London this week. If you're at Pocket Gamers, holler at us. We want to see We we want to see what's going on. If you haven't followed Player Driven recently, check out playerdriven.io. Make sure you like our content, subscribe, and let us know what are you wanting to hear about from these experiences. I'm not going to keep dragging this on. So we're going to jump into this conversation. We're starting a little
Call of Duty's Future: Challenges and Opportunities
00:01:14
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late. At this point, Colin's breaking down Bobby Kotick, who was the old CEO of Activision, who owned Call of Duty. Call Duty took a big hit this year.
00:01:23
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And Bobby Kotick just came out and said some stuff about it. And Colin's just going to kind of jump in here and start talking about that situation. You have a great rest of your week, and we'll see you soon. so He must be speaking from some point of knowledge. He must know something, but I don't think he's far off in terms of his estimations that call duty this year was so much lower than last year's call duty black ops six, which we talked about in a previous like, uh, live session, but like if call duty black ops six reportedly per Bloomberg lost $300 million dollars for Microsoft. And it was in terms of an attention share, a massive game, um, if not the biggest game, one of the biggest games of 2024, then.
00:02:02
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four then How on earth does a game do 60% or let's say 40 to 60% worse than the previous installment and make a profit? If they lost $300 million, dollars how much did they lose this year? That's ah that's a real question, um, that I now have, and I'm, you'll never get a clear answer, but like, you know, this is the kind of the opposite a positive flywheel to me, this is the beginning of a negative flywheel because, you know, Whether true or not, I saw that Microsoft came out after we talked last week and maybe we brought this up, but they were like refuting the kind of quote unquote rumors of layoffs coming to the gaming department again. But like, you can't have a game underperform that big and have it lose money, presumably is losing more money than the previous installment and not have the flywheel go, well, we got a couple more people to save on costs. And now you're in a or tailspin as opposed to positive flywheel, right? You're in a tailspin where one thing will lead to another thing, lead to another thing. And I hope it doesn't end up like that way. I don't want that to end up that way, but like,
00:03:00
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Numbers are numbers and you're like, oh, gosh, this is bad. And, um you know, unfortunate that it had to come out in weird court proceedings about the Call of Duty numbers. But um again, um and almost like weird that he's like taking it as like a ha ha. I tricked Microsoft into buying an asset. Mike, the only reason the asset was cheap did is because you did what you did or at least you covered up what you did cover up. So um they bought it because it was on discount.
00:03:24
Speaker
Like that's why you sold. um They bought it because was discount. Um, but you know, I digress.
The Future of Technology: Cloud and Gaming
00:03:30
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I won't touch that. The oddest thing coming out of that though, not just comical. is just like his conspiracy theory about the Swedes and embracer group. I'm like shots fired.
00:03:39
Speaker
Doesn't bracer group need to take more arrows. Like, oh my gosh. He's like the conspiracy to try to force me to sell. They were, you know, blah, blah, blah, like man. I just see Charlie Day with yarn with him now, like and the Swedes are over here and it's got like a big string go down. I'm sure Bark is part of it too. He's like it's all just part of the same conspiracy. it Take me out.
00:03:58
Speaker
So just read some as he, as he buys a yacht and he was like off the coast the Malfi coast or whatever, or the, in the Maldives and like a, an insanely large yacht kind of racing Bezos and his, uh, know, all that. So like, mean, complain on your pile of infinite money. Um,
00:04:16
Speaker
Speaking of Bezos, have you heard, did you hear his statement? Oh, oh my gosh. What'd he say? He were upset about this, which is surprising, but he is a believer that ah no one will own PCs soon. We'll all own devices that can connect to the cloud that runs our PCs and people got upset by that.
00:04:35
Speaker
I didn't go deep into those details and i actually don't necessarily think he's wrong. I think there still will be people that own PCs, but I mean, we've had VMware and other virtual desktops for decades. So yeah, my i'm like what's I'm like, what's new there. um I mean, yeah, people's feelings like let's just break down. What do you need a PC for? Right? Like, you know, are you running the web on your local browser? No, that's all run to the cloud. So everything you do on the internet, everyone that's listening to this has run through the cloud right today.
00:05:07
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That's just how as the birth of AWS basically is the internet, the internet lives in the cloud, the cloud has access to a browser, the browser is the only thing locally running. um And but you're not actually running the websites on your browser or your machine, right? So that's like one. And so you go, what else is cloud-based? Well, most enterprise um you know software people use for work are running in the cloud, right? So Microsoft Word and et cetera, cetera. There's ah like a small localized version, but the majority of which is now running to the cloud. So that's like a lot of my files exist in the cloud too, personally, like whether you're enterprise to a company you work for, you run things through cloud, your files, cetera, cetera, like an internet of sorts that's cloud-based or you're running your personal files in the cloud, a lot is cloud-based too. So I don't think it's far off. I mean,
00:05:51
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I think what he's saying, like, so then why do people own big machines? This probably way got the kerfuffle for Bezos. It's like, well, gamers love boxes with LEDs and high GPUs. And like, that's the thing I think he's like, we're so far away from being not having to be the case. And that goes back to what's the biggest hang up on cloud gaming?
00:06:12
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it's multiplayer games and latency. um And I would love your thoughts on this great because I feel you're closer to this like infrastructure stuff. But to me, it's like, yeah, you'd have to build so many servers that are so like, that are so close to everybody who wants a game so they can and you have to have the games be so big where they can locally match make like the problem is not is is basically the speed of light. That's the problem. Light can only move so much so fast. And so in a single player game that doesn't matter because if you see like a hairpin latency on on you selecting a menu item in your jrpg like you'll never notice nor will you care but if you're playing competitively in csgo or call of duty or whatever and you are off by a second versus the other person then they're gonna just win every match and that's not fun for you to play multiplayer games that's what it boils down to multiplayer games by just the technology um kind of
00:07:09
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confines that it finds itself in is is always going to and need to be like run locally until and until we have so many data centers and so many people gaming that you can locally match make to people in the same geographic region with the same data center running the game right then it becomes less of an issue.
00:07:26
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, technology is hurdles wherere we're going to always solve and move forward from.
Demographic Shifts and Market Trends in Gaming
00:07:31
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I think you know the loudest voices on the internet is like 5% of the audience, right? So you hear people complaining about, oh, we want PCs, but those are probably gamers that game hard corner PC. I'm willing to bet 90% of people don't even know what that means or how that works, right? So they don't care what device they're using to access the web. As long as they have something to access the web, I think latency will eventually be solved, right? You'll have your e-sports gamers where, yeah, they're going to have a beefy machine because this is what they do for a living. Then you're going to the me's that like, I'll play Battlefield and I suck at it. So it was a little bit of latency that I noticed or don't notice is going to make the world a difference. Maybe, but I think that will get in better over time. i think, you know, we're at the, don't want to say it's the dawn of the technology because it's been here for a few years, but I mean, technology moves quick. I mean, if you look at it, I think it was like,
00:08:20
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50 years ago is when we first got to the moon or maybe 70 years ago now, right? Like, and now look at what we're doing. Like things just speed up over time. So, so if there's a ah hurdle in the way, I don't doubt that people are smart enough than us out there to go solve that.
00:08:33
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No, I mean, I, I totally agree with that. It's not a matter of if it'll happen. Of course it will. Like, you know, I champion on our continual conversations. I love having that. I, I, I, I hate the box in my living room. If I don't, I don't want a box.
00:08:48
Speaker
to just an appliance to play games i rather i have no appliance and use my shelf space for something else so that would be the ideal world so i'm i'm all about anti-appliance but i just think technology technologically speaking we're we are on our way to that world but we are also far away from that world if that makes sense like we're not close to it but we're closer to it than you know, what's the Bailgate saying where, you know, people want the future to happen now, like 10 years will happen in like a year and then we'll go 10 years without any major shift, like, you know, or something like that. i I'm sorry, I'm like shooting at the hip on this, he has like a really interesting quote that's basically like technological innovation, our expectations are immediate and then, but it happens over a long period of time, but then it'll happen really fast. Like you'll see innovation just happen like boom. Right. And um something like that, I think it would be the destiny of this type of thing. So,
00:09:40
Speaker
I mean, and to be fair this, Valve is hoping that's not true because they want you to buy a thousand dollar machine and to put in your living room to play a PC games. So. i You know, it's ah the streaming future. That's going to be is it going to cost a thousand dollars? They didn't know that's the price yet, right? It's just spec no, that's just a rumor that, you know, given the price of memory and GPUs, that there's no way they cannot charge like a thousand dollars for this machine. And at what point are what are you buying?
00:10:06
Speaker
Well, I mean, like, Got, I mean, the internet piece, come on. Like if you're you're assuming that the machine is going to rise in memory and GPU costs because it it will, right? As everything else will. So will your gaming PC. Like those things don't stay flat. Like my, my your Acer, your Asus, your Alienware, whatever piece of gaming pre-built hardware you're running, or you're just going and buying your GPUs on the market, like, and you're doing a pre-build, like those things don't go down. They'll go up too, right? So yeah, like, you know,
00:10:35
Speaker
Consoles are not living in a vacuum where they go up and everything else thing remains flat. Everything goes up. Right. That's how it works. Oh, it reminds me of the crypto farmer era. We're just going into a worse version of it. Five years ago of it.
00:10:47
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Yeah. Well, yeah, it was five years of crypto farming or five years ago, but that kind of popped. And then we're just back at a more escalated version. And. You actually read interesting about the crypto farmers they actually like everyone like rails and like oh what a funny business you were in and what a failure now they're making so much money on selling those GPUs and those like direct lines into kilowatts into the AI companies that they're actually more valuable now is just by having done the work in the crypto era and they crash but if they stayed around they're making hand over fist money in the AI era so hats off to the script of farmers you know they got the last laugh
00:11:19
Speaker
I'm going to i'm going the Pocket Gamers this next week. So if you're in London, let me know anyone. We'd love to meet up it and videotape what you're doing, and what you're building, just meeting you, saying hi. But the first Pocket gamer is that Gamers I went to it was in Seattle a few years ago. And it was all Web3 and it was all crypto-based. And I remember walking in like...
00:11:39
Speaker
this is the weirdest thing ever like everyone's talking about the nfts you can get and all this stuff and just like i'm not going to use the word cringy by any means but like they were putting so much everything into it they're like this is the future this is what it's going to be and i'm just like how like it's not quick enough it's not i don't know it's uh don't know technology's nuts yeah i'm i uh i'm famously a um i'm I just don't – when people describe the value of um you know crypto, and I will just say I'm packing ownership, you know like digital asset ownership to the person instead of the kind of the whatever, right? It makes sense on its face. But just – no one's explained to me how you build these ecosystems without them turning into a Ponzi scheme almost immediately, right? It's like no – nothing i have seen to date has not ultimately turned into a Ponzi scheme.
00:12:37
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And whether intentional or not, it doesn't really matter. it' just what happens. um And the Ponzi ends up crashing and there' people are speculative chasing a thing. So I don't know. It's ah it's a bit of a gold rush mentality. um And I think ah speaking of gold rush, I want to want to use this as pivot um i I last week railed on Lego for making awful play sets and I'm here to eat crow. Not really. I knew this was happening. So Lego launched their adult line for the pokemon sets ahead of pokemon day um these were announced over a year ago the idea of it and then if you're in the lego community you knew what the sets were going to be basically based on all the leaks and stuff so nothing came out as a surprise you had eevee you have pikachu which is the shockingly the ugliest one in my opinion and then You have the original like starter three pack from the Kanto kind of, um, you know, OG Pokemon games and their full kind of evolutionary form Venus or Charizard and blast toys all kind of on a giant, like kind of trophy as it were. don't know what to call It's just like, oh, it's just a, just an awesome, creative, just amazing looking like the item to put on a shelf, which I will clearly do my office. So I, of course bought the dang thing and was like, yeah. And the Canto badges were the sell through like, oh, gift with purchase. Boom.
00:13:59
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And speaking about speculators, like I know they're back. They kind of found more in stock for the pre-orders, but that set sold out in 24 hours gone. Right. And the Canto badges are going for 200, $300 on eBay now. Like, like basically the, the kind of hybrid mashup of, think ah it's like three things happening. You have the Lego community, which.
00:14:22
Speaker
Pokemon has been an imbittable brick format before. They're part of Mega Bloks, owned by Mattel. Sorry, Mattel, but they're awful. I'm a Lego person. I hate those sets. I hate the design of the bricks. I don't like how they feel. I don't like the design. So um call me a snob, whatever, but no, no go. um So I see these things in Target all the time. i'm like, oh, that's cool. But pass by by Lego, right? It's kind of what i do, right? So They you have the Lego kind of community um behind Pokemon. Oh, who always wanted Pokemon set. So it's like one. Then you have the Pokemon community who's addicted to collecting, right? So like, I think there's like a, like a collector's mentality when comes to Pokemon. Everything they do boils down to collect, got to catch them all. Like whether it be the in the game, whether it be the cards, whether it be the Pokemon Go you're by, you're chasing your AR Pokemon, your shiny Pokemon, like everything kind of distills down to collecting.
00:15:10
Speaker
so you have a hardcore collector mentality with Pokemon right on the other side. And the Lego, and I think you have this like adult, thought like we we're celebrating 30 years of Pokemon, which means, at minimum, those who grew up with Pokemon are 30 years old, if not older. So we are middle-aged dudes. The commercial really just nailed it. like Got a bunch of middle-aged dudes, like myself, living their benign lives. I'm going to say, my life's not benign, but like living their benign lives. I think it was an accountant in the ad. And he sees the ad, and he gets his friends back together to go catch them all, and they're all just like,
00:15:42
Speaker
totally dressed up as kids again. and it's a great ad. One trolling the Lego fan community, which is basically what you're doing with the 18 plus line, they kind of do what they're doing. And so it's like that wrong. It's like, Oh, yeah, it's this nostalgia fest. So I kind of, mean, it's like someone made a comment that really stuck with me and i' let you jump in, Greg. was like, we're entering this era where maybe game companies, like you all almost have two kind of worlds. You have younger audiences that are more discerning in how they spend their disposal income. And then you have this whale audience, the game, the whales of gaming, and the whales of just everything right now are these millennials, maybe younger Gen Xers. And during the prime earning years with a bunch of disposable cash that, you know,
00:16:19
Speaker
instead of buying you know going to football games because i mean i'm one i'd rather watch a football game on tv going to stadium is like it's fine but like football is way better on tv full stop so i'm not buying season tickets to an nfl game but i clearly spend my discretionary income on other things so it's not like that money doesn't leave just goes other things and it's in this like race of living your childhood and not letting go i don't know if that's maybe the the cynical way to put it but or it's just like i like what i like and i never I age up with it and now I have all the money there tailor making experiences and or for things for me to buy that I'm going to Jeep on. So see the Lego adult line, which they keep adding more and more sets every year and see the Pokemon $650 set selling out 24 hours is crazy. I shouldn't have sold out. Like that's an expensive piece of hardware. So a bunch of adults has ran and bought their starter Pokemon from their youth and.
00:17:08
Speaker
off to the races we go living in this adult
Pokemon's Global Impact and Nostalgia
00:17:10
Speaker
deep pocket of money while the younger generation is playing these free-to-play experiences or cheaper games because they don't have the discretion income so maybe i don't know in this early take maybe the gaming industry kind of goes oh we'll make more premium games for that adult audience that nostalgia like see tomb raiders he bond we're going to chase with higher fidelity and a more premium price point that audience and then you know sad they'll just continue making free-to-play or like cheaper games that will reach a younger audience thoughts it's lot threw lot at you i will i will take a little bit of credit i think it was last week i told you i was saying boomer that i was reading that boomers are the next big uh investment in gaming because they have free time they got money but to your point malet older millennials too we we we fall into that category as well right it's
00:17:54
Speaker
I have the boomer comment. My mom plays words with friends. My mom's so you know a boomer and they're not going to all sudden find affinity for Pokemon. This is not happening. Right. I think what, but I do think, and I, so i so I used to tell this story at Twitch, like gamers will age up with gaming and they will not let go of gaming. And then you just, it's proved to be true and a true and true. Like there's a gen younger gen X. I don't want to forget them. I keep saying that. And ah elder and millennial generation that is now just aging up into their prime years and for the Xers are kind of going into this early senior years.
00:18:26
Speaker
They're just not gonna let go of gaming, right? Whether be my brother who's older than me playing Madden, he's an Xer play Madden. He'll play Madden forever, right? Like you will not let go of Madden or me and my own fandoms. Like we're, we're the whales. We are the boomers, right? We will be the boomers and we are the ones that are holding gaming and kind of moving up in the age bracket. And by proxy, the gaming is moving up the economic ladder with us, right? Cause we're not letting go.
00:18:48
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, seeing that Pokemon ad or Lego ad, right. It's just like, yeah, like they know their audience. Right. And it was just fascinating because you know, something I really like to talk about all my podcast stuff is like, who's your audience? Who's your audience? right And you think Pokemon, everyone's minds are gonna go like, oh, it's a kid's game. Like, no, you're wrong. Right. And yeah, kids love it, but there's money there because there's a a lot of older kids.
00:19:14
Speaker
Alex, yeah, like that that play this stuff, right? Like, and they nailed it to your point about the games or the gaming. I mean, I think they've already noticed that, right. To your point, they're bringing back to my dad. You've mentioned it last week that the two thousands is coming back, right. They kind of know how we scratch our itches. Right. ah And that makes me a ball on master chief game, coming PlayStation eyes on that, because if they're going to have what it goes, Xbox a mascot. That's nostalgia bait that could do really well. It's, it's a halo, right?
00:19:42
Speaker
But like when i my ad question of gaming, and this is of where you see Nintendo and Pokemon doing really well um on this one, is like giving your brand extension in more places for people to engage with it and ideally places where they can give more money is kind of the secret here. So Pokemon in my piece I'm writing that'll be out tomorrow, I'm calling them the Tiamat of gaming and branding IP. So what's that? What's a Tiamat? It's a five headed dragon from Dungeons and Dragons. It's a dragon god. um you know It's got the dragon heads. It's oftentimes the end of campaign boss, you know yada yada, or like a more common villain, right? To kind overarching campaigns team up, right? And to that end, it's like each dragon is powerful by themselves, but collectively they're just like a insurmountable super beast, right? And so Pokemon is ins insanely great at making console games.
00:20:29
Speaker
They're insanely good at mobile. They're insanely good at trading card games, so physical trading card games. They're insanely good at, um, at merchandising, like, oh gosh, that's a whole other one. can add on that one. And then they're insanely good at, um, transmedia, like the Pokemon animated series is the top gaming IP on Netflix. And they just 30 years of animated show that does not go away. Ask Ketchum did not hang up his hat until like this decade.
00:20:54
Speaker
He is, he was, he was a Pokemon master chasing guy for like almost 30 years. Like. That's crazy. Right. And multiple generations look to ash and go, oh, he was my guy. Right. Like, and by proxy Pikachu. So when you look at, like I saw a gar graph graph out there, it's like the biggest brands of all time and from a retail IP standpoint and Pokemon's number one at over a hundred billion dollars in retail sales.
00:21:18
Speaker
That is because they are this five headed beast like that. And they, they, they, they surpass Mickey mouse in terms of like the estimated, like things and per this chart, like am like, If that's true, that's crazy, but I actually buy it because he, the Pokemon is everywhere, right? It's not just for the money. It's like almost everywhere. Like know all continents around the world can look at Pikachu and just go Pikachu.
00:21:42
Speaker
I know exactly what that is. Right. Um, so, um, first I want your thoughts and then I'm ask you what your Pokemon is. Everyone has a Pokemon. Everyone has a Pokemon. ah Your point about the five-headed beast, right? Like, that's awesome. And I want to dive more into that, not now, but like, yeah, like they're they're conquering everything. And I know, isn't there like a Pokemon theme park now somewhere in China as well, or Japan? Like, like they could be Disney, right? they got the They got the characters, they got the revenue, they got the people, they got everything, right? Like if they if they build it out, like that they could build
00:22:18
Speaker
I don't know what percentage Nintendo owns of the Pokemon company. That's a real question. I'm like, I thought Nintendo does own Pokemon, but Pokemon company can, like, I don't know how it works. Right. But like, so my Pokemon is a poly whirl or poly wag. I think it is whichever is the cuter. Cause I was never a big Pokemon person when I saw him with a little twirl on his stomach. I'm like, that's my guy. But now that my son is really big into Pokemon, I like the Gyarados of the world and the Charizard. He likes big guys and he does all these puzzles with them. and It's just really fun to be able to watch.
00:22:50
Speaker
Nice. Nice. ah My son's... da So my son is into Charizard, Charmeleon, and and ah gosh, ah Charmander. So Charmander, the little one, right?
00:23:01
Speaker
And so that's his like evolutionary line of Pokemon. Each one has a little stuffy. My daughter is into Eevee. um The fox that dances. Can't go wrong with that one. And then My Pokemon is Gastly. So I am the ghost Pokemon. That's a floating orb with the smoke behind it. Love Gastly. Loved him from the animated show.
00:23:23
Speaker
um Just a Gastly guy. a hard Hard one to find. And then everyone's favorite out of that line is Gengar. Gengar's fine, but Gastly's more cool. So that's my
Closing and Upcoming Events
00:23:32
Speaker
Pokemon. us Close second. It's just very specific to the original animated series. Squirtle with the sunglasses.
00:23:39
Speaker
Thumbs up. Squirtle introductory episode. Awesome. Squirtle is probably second, but like Gastly is my Pokemon. Ghost Pokemon all the way. Let's wrap things up here because I think we lost our viewers that we're viewing, but we're still recording for short. So why don't you let us know what you're up to, Colin, and where we can find you.
00:24:00
Speaker
Yeah, Colin Neese, SVP of Gaming and Screen Engine ASI. i'm Also kind of mind game business development and mouthpiece lead. um You can find me on LinkedIn, Colin Neese. hit me up and or um my newsletter I write every week patch notes and then my new sub stack just go to player driven you'll find my sub stack there so yeah same it's same content as LinkedIn just trying to amplify my reach by just place placing a different platform so yeah let me know what you guys think and looking forward to doing this next week Greg
00:24:32
Speaker
We will not be here next week, Colin. I will be in London at Pocket Gamers. Maybe I'll sit over here something. Actually, I'll be flying home. I think technically I'm home this time next week, but I am not doing anything. But if you're at Pocket Gamers, hit me up, let me know. I'd love to be able to meet. Say hi, see what you're working on, see what you're building. I love that stuff. are We're also going talking about nice Dice next time we talk. Who's going to Dice? what are you doing? Maybe we can meet you there. We can record some stuff.
00:24:59
Speaker
ah Check out PlayerDriven. We're rebuilding everything. We have Colin's stuff there. We have Louis stuff there. We have my own stuff there. We have everything there. Check it out. Join the Discord. You can scan a little QR code at the top of our ah our live stream now, which we'll bring you there. And we're building everything out, so let us know what you think.
00:25:13
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Have a good rest of your week and peace out.