Do engineers have empathy? Can they get into other people's heads? How do empathy and the arts relate to engineering education? We talk about this with today's guest, Rachel Fahrig, an educator with experience in high school science and engineering. We also preview our submissions to the SXSW conference, both related to integrating the arts with engineering. This episode was recorded in a market in Austin, TX, so there is some background noise. You can vote for our SXSW proposals on integrated arts and engineering online! "Improv & Art Games for Designers & Engineers" is at: [ http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/vote/61557 ], and "Electronic Quilts: Weaving Art with Engineering" is at: [ http://panelpicker.sxsw.com/vote/60958 ] One engineering abstract related to "Empathic Lead User Analysis" is here: [ http://proceedings.asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/proceeding.aspx?articleid=1604193 ] If you don't know that Lily Tomlin sketch of "Edith Ann", here's one example: [ https://youtu.be/u-Jcny8RiMg?list=PL_lxjlU_5l5k2TWzH1GyLdH-7b6tBU-QF ] Our theme music comes from "School Zone (radio edit)" by The Honorable Sleaze. Our other music today is from "William Henry Harrison High School Fight Song" by Steve Combs. All are used under Creative Commons Attribution Licenses: [ creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ] A transcript for this episode is at: http://www.k12engineering.net/transcripts/ep9.html