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Behind The Swords Ep. 1 - The Players
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A recap/interview episode with all of our cast and DM recounting our favorite moments of our early campaign.
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Introduction to Hired Swords
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You're listening to the Hired Swords, a free Dungeons and Dragons podcast, though Guacamole is extra.
Behind-the-Scenes Episode Introduction
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Hey, everybody. This is Mike, your DM for the Hired Swords. And we are going to have a very special episode or in between episodes kind of episode, a special bonus feature behind the scenes where I'm talking to our players about the campaign up till the most recent episode that you
Meet the Players
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listen to. And so I'm going to say hello real quick to Blaze. Hi, Blaze.
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Hi, it's me, Blaze. It's me, the Blaze. And Ash. Hello, Ash. Hello. Hello. And Mikey. Mikey's here. Hey, it's me. And last, but certainly not least, but he's further in the past because of his time zone is, what's your name? Derek.
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Hi, I'm, um, what's your name, Derek? I couldn't get Daven out of my head. I just wanted to say Daven. We're synonymous at this point. Yeah, that's true. Uh, all of you a little bit.
D&D Experiences and Campaign Thoughts
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So I just want to ask you guys some questions about our somewhere around 20 to
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21 hours of gameplay thus far. I think we've probably spent more like 40 or 50 hours together doing these sessions. We take a lot of bathroom breaks. No, that's me. That's my fault. I have to drink a lot. I only choose voices that sound like this. I'm drinking water all the time. No, but I just want to unpack our play style, how we play, what we like about Dungeons and Dragons, and then just this adventure as a whole.
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gotten out of it and what we've enjoyed and what we think might be coming in the future. I mean, I know, but what you guys think might be coming that way, if it's better than what I have planned, I can change it. So I want to start by I'm going to ask all of you, but we'll let you guys just fight over who answers first to just kind of share your Dungeons and Dragons experience up up until you started playing the hired swords. Have you done much playing DMing? What do you what do you what's your experience with Dungeons and Dragons?
DMing Insights and Inspirations
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All right, roll initiative. We should have done that. I got a natural 20, not even lying. I got 11. I need a picture in the Discord. All right, so it's me, Mikey, then. Oh, wait, no, I'm lying. Oh, yeah, Ash and Derek. OK, so.
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Dungeons and Dragons for me. Honestly, I've only been playing it for less than half a year. I got into a campaign with Mikey. He DMs for me and another group.
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Um, not to give his story away, but, uh, I just, right, the whole 2020 being butts and being inside and all the other stuff, having the interaction has been fantastic. And it's really easy to do that, uh, with good friends and a fun tabletop RPG. So Dungeons and Dragons. I can't say for some reason today, uh, was my, my outlet. Awesome.
Campaign Variations and Group Dynamics
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So you're saying a Wolver Jack has your tongue.
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Wolver Jack. All right. What's wrong? Wolver Jack got your tongue? This guy. This guy. What a real animal that is. All right. Now, you know, Mikey's turn you got. What's your action? Oh, I definitely drink. No. So, yes. So I think I've had a couple of instances with Blaze or Drucks.
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or Krigs, whatever we want to call them in the time. I've been DMing for a little bit now for Curse of Strahd campaign. Previous to that, I've made a lot of characters that had one to two sessions.
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of doing nothing and then everybody disbanding, which is why I decided that I was just going to DM myself. I know I'm always going to be available, especially during 2020, because as previously said, it's kind of but.
Combat vs Roleplay Preferences
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But other than that, I've just been trying to get my group past trying to murder super random things and setting things on fire.
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Nice. Classic. I believe you were next. Yeah. I've been playing for about five-ish years on and off. The veterans of the group. Yeah.
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Long time player, first time role player. This is the first group that I've joined that actually was really into role playing, and even though it might have been a couple of these guys' first times role playing, it's really fun. My husband does campaigns. Thanks, Bradley, for getting me involved in this. When he did campaigns, I started with Pathfinder. For those out there who have played it, it was really hard for me to learn it at first.
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It's called math finder for a reason. Yeah, exactly. Um, and most of the time I just played rogues cause I thought they were the easiest, but, uh, I started to play more spell caster and, um, it's been fun. My experience was very limited at first. I never, I've heard about D and D
Roleplay's Significance and Podcasting Impact
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and I was like, Oh, it's just nerd stuff. I'm not into nerd things, but here I am today playing D and D and it's the coolest I've ever done.
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Yeah, it's been fun. Derek. I've been playing for a little over three years now, I would say. I first got into it a little bit before that because critical role, as most people have, I just was surfing through YouTube one day and I said, hey, that's Ashley Johnson. I know who that is. And I watched it and I was like, OK, this is kind of cool. So I watched the whole thing and then I backed up and I watched the entire first critical role season and the second one. I was like, I got to do this. And I had a friend at work who was into it when he was younger. He's an older guy now.
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And then he said, I was going to put a group together. So some friends from back on the East Coast, we've been playing online. I've actually never played in person, but for about three years, I've been in that that campaign with them. And then, of course, I've joined this one in between those. I did DM group, another curse of Strahd, just like Mikey here, a very different version of Chris Estrada. His is a lot more fire. Mine was a lot more.
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But it's interesting how one campaign can be completely different from another, even when you're running the same thing. But yeah, I mean, it was something I've been interested in for a long time. And now
Surprising Campaign Expectations
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this is probably the best group I've ever played with. Like you said, the RP in this group makes it so much more fun than just playing just a regular game, you know?
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That's awesome. Yeah, I think you said you said that you can run a campaign, the same campaign with different groups, and it's just so different. And I think that's what makes Dungeons and Dragons so cool is that, you know, every set, every group and every session is just you never know what it's going to be like. And I think we've kind of hit a jackpot here with these guys at least. I've been lucky. I started DMing
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2018 I think so I guess that's two years ago and I did a whole one-year campaign with pretty much the same group of guys and We went all the way to the end and then they wanted to continue and then guys started moving away and stuff and I still play with those guys every other week and Those that can join me we play online. There's guy in California now a guy in Florida ones in New York So we just jump in and play when we can So that's an interesting campaign because it's like, you know, hey
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Who what players are actually going to be in the adventure today, so I have to always mix it up, but anyway
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And I've only ever played,
Character Development Influences
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I played for like three month chunk of playing every week with my Goliath wizard, Norlin. And he was, he's wonderful. I want to play with him again sometime. I moved away and he doesn't want to DM online. So I don't have- We've been trying for three years to put together one where I DM for you. And eventually someday maybe it'll happen. It'll happen. I want to play, I want to play. But I really liked playing a wizard and I'll say I got into it as well because of Critical Role.
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And then I started absorbing every Dungeons and Dragons podcast and video series I could find. It's basically all I care about except for work and family and that sort of stuff. So I don't do anything else, sports or anything. I don't care. So anyway, it's just- I'm gonna take a bonus action here and say I was the odd man out where Critical Role wasn't my shtick. I was a Adventure Zone listener with the Mackleboys.
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Yeah, if you're listening, will you be my friend? I know right. Here's my thing is I never I didn't want to listen to them because I steal so much for my games. And I was like, man, I try really hard not to
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get into stuff that my players are into because I don't want to steal something that is so blatantly obvious what it is to them. But the macaroys are too funny and they're more silly and I'm not a silly DM that much as you could tell.
D&D Introductions and Inspirations
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So I let their players do the silly stuff. On that one, I have to do a reaction to that one.
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I didn't watch Crit-Roll until after I started DMing, so I got into the idea or even learned about it from my brother who told me this. I think it was Palladiums is what he played.
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And, uh, he told me about their HP pools being somewhere in like the 20,000 range. And he told me about this absolutely nonsensical, like he and his, you know, uh, bros were just sitting in, uh, you know, their living room. And then there was a pizza and then they, the pizza, they opened the box and it had this crystal in it. And then Jimmy, or my brother grabbed it and his arms started
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turning into a crystal and he had to run into the sewers after this this pizza dude on a bicycle and was like, I want to play this. This sounds fantastic. It sounds like a bad drug trip to me. I mean, probably. I mean, no, definitely not.
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I remember when my husband Bradley, he was like, do you know what all goes into D&D? And I was like, nope. And he sat myself and a few friends down. He goes, I want you guys to watch this and see what you think. And it was Penny Arcade. I don't know if any of you guys watched them.
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Absolutely. I love, I love their, uh, their stuff. Yeah. I thought they're hilarious. And it was one of the main reasons why I wanted to play like Rogues in a sense, because I liked playing those care care. I can't say it. Crit. Crit heavy charismatic. I was way off. It only took a thousand tries. That's okay. Your inner Gwyn's coming up.
Theater Backgrounds Enhancing Roleplay
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Yes, exactly. Because I wanted to be that person. I wanted to be able to roleplay. And most of our friends, they love D&D, but they love the combat action of it. And I'm always that person, or I used to be like, I want to talk our way out of this and not fight. And everyone's like, oh, great.
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Yeah, but it's because of penny arcade and I like them a lot. And that's one of the reasons why whenever I want to DM, I want to make sure I get the right players because I love the idea of using social interactions to get out of situations because combat is fun. But I think combat is fun in like small amounts. Like this group has been perfect for that. We've had just enough combat to like feed that side while we've got plenty of like the RP to try and figure out everything else.
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Yeah, I'm the same way. I tune out when I'm listening to a podcast and they're in combat, I start to tune out. But I tune right in during the role play and the dramatic conversations. I'm the same way. I'll want to move on to a little more specific about our little campaign, what we've got going on. So before we got started, and we'll stay in the same initiative order for all these questions. When we first got started, I sent you guys
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Like a whole player, new player rundown of what the, what everything's going to be. Like a one sheet kind of thing. I mean, it's going to be a test. Some of the rules. It's not, it's not at all. It's just, I just was, I just sent that and I kind of had a breakdown of the world and where you're going to be. And you started making your characters and
Unexpected Tone Shifts in Campaign
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stuff. And we started talking about that. I just want to know kind of what you.
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sort of expected if you can even really put it like if you can really think about what what did you kind of expect getting started and what was what was different about this campaign than what you expected jumping in from the beginning so man that's a tough one
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I kind of expected, because it's not really fair for me to answer this as much, because you and I, with the preparation, it was kind of our baby putting this together. Right. And you and I go pretty far back. We've known each other quite a while. I'd say so. We're cousins, like basically brothers. So I don't know if that's been ever made clear on the podcast or not. No, no, this is first time. First time, long time.
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I kind of had an idea of what to expect and I didn't really like delve too much into that whenever asking the guys if they wanted to be a part of it.
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But honestly, since getting into it, and my perception of it really changed with the, I believe, third episode whenever we fought the Great Elk. And just like the remorse my character felt, Krigs, and like that remorse of like, okay, this world isn't as happy
Character Evolution and First Impressions
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-go-lucky as I thought it was gonna be.
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Um, and I actually like, I really liked that turning point, even though it was kind of like a sadder moment for him and whatnot. Uh, I definitely like, I like that aspect of it, how it, it, it wasn't what I thought it was going to be in that moment.
00:15:04
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Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, from, from my end, you know, I, I get, you know, a call from, from Blake saying, Hey, I have this idea, my cousin and I, and then we're going to record your voice. And I'm like, that's terrible. You shouldn't do that, but fine. I'll join it.
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And then and then we you know, I started started my character and I wrote him out in this like happy go lucky He's gonna be this like he he's gonna he's gonna make some stupid jokes and be kind of like a nuisance And then it just didn't turn out we started getting into it. I'm like, I don't I don't even know we're just going I
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And then i had i had no idea how you how you dm so and i didn't really know how to how to play it like i am from from that perspective like every time is like okay so we made it two weeks and will probably people dip next week or next no okay we're still going.
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Um, I guess, I guess this is, uh, this is, here we are. Well, you really got tainted from those first. Here we are. Like session eight or nine or something. And this last about week is fine. What's going on? You're like the poor dog whose owners used to beat him. And now you're just afraid of everybody waiting for the fist to drop. I have books from second edition. If that's making that, that makes you feel any, any better, like leather bound books.
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Oh, the first group I played with started in first edition. That makes no sense to me whatsoever. It is such a different game. Yeah. Wait a minute. A long rest gets you one health point. That's ridiculous. I don't have I don't quite have have that heart for first edition, but you know, I wanted to play. Yeah, no, absolutely. Like I I just it's it's interesting how I thought I was going to be.
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And then as as we've, you know, killed and, you know, the great elk and and and and watched a couple of other events unfold, it's just I I've become almost a completely different person than what I like. I thought I was going to. Nice. Wild Hill has changed you. Yeah, exactly. Ash, what about you?
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Um, so my experience, like joining in on the whole podcast thing. So I've talked to Blaze about, I, so Macroy brothers, I love you. I think you guys do great work.
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Um, I would talk to Blaze about it and I saw Blaze post on Facebook about doing a D&D podcast and I immediately messaged him at work the next day and I was like, I want to be in this podcast. Please put me in it. I was very demanding. It felt like, um, cause I was, he's like, well, you guys will try a
Joining the Podcast: Ash's Excitement
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few people. And I was like, okay. And then I did the little questionnaire thing and I was like, he better put me in this podcast. I'm so ready to go. So excited. Um,
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But I am glad I pushed myself to do it because at that time I was very like, quarantine had happened and our D&D sessions here with our friends weren't happening because of scheduling conflicts and I was like, I love D&D and I need to push myself to put myself out there more and
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try new things and luckily the player was like yeah you should join it and I was like oh my god. I was almost broken down tears because I was very excited to finally like create a character with this big lengthy background and how I wanted a player was to be just like me basically like everything you hear about Gwen how scatterbrained she is how like she talks like that's literally me and it's the first time that I felt like I've put myself into a character.
00:18:50
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And it's been great. I didn't know what to expect, DM wise, because to the audience, I didn't know any of these guys besides Blaze. And so I was like, are they going to like me? Are they going to think I'm awkward? Are they going to think I'm too pushy? Yes, yes, and yes. Yes, exactly. All those things.
00:19:10
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But I like it. I feel like I've gained a lot of friends doing this. Yeah. I feel the same way. Yeah. I can agree. I wasn't too sure how, uh, how everybody was going to be. And it was like, well, I'll, uh, I'll get kicked out within a certain amount of time. No, we've all clicked together really well.
00:19:28
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Yes, I was very amazed by it, to be honest.
Friendships and Group Chemistry
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You can hear my laughs in the first couple episodes where I do a little awkward laugh after everything. Part of that's me being awkward, part of that's me being me. I get very excited to do random spells. I've grown to be comfortable around you guys now. It's awesome. It's nice.
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Oh, Derek, what about you, bud? Uh, for me, this is going almost exactly how I thought it was going to go. Wow. Yeah. It's really cool. I've, I've known Michael D and Mike a long time and we've actually went on to like a yearly lunch thing. Every time he would come in town, uh, I live in Las Vegas, he would come out here for CES and we would talk about D and D every single time.
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And we always talk about putting a group together. So I had a pretty good idea of what kind of game he would run just based off of what I knew about him. And I've known you for what now, 15 years, 20 years almost 20. That's crazy. Yeah, I shouldn't be allowed to say 20 years. I'm not old enough to have known someone 20 years. Am I? Yeah. Oh, we are getting old. Yeah. So I kind of I was wasn't surprised really about the type of game. I was kind of surprised at how well we all got along right off the bat because I knew you and I knew Blaze. I didn't know Ash or Mikey.
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So that was like a weird thing to just have us all just jump in and feel like we've known each other for a long time right off the bat and it was cool. I would say if anything about the campaign itself that kind of surprised me about being different was judging by the handout that you gave us in the beginning. I thought it seemed like there was a lot of conflict between the gods that hasn't really come up at all in the game and maybe it will later on but so far that really hasn't been much of a mention.
00:21:03
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Yeah. Cool. Yeah. It's kind of funny because Blaze asked me about you, Derek. And I think I, I'm the first one to mention it to you to do the show. And he's like, what do you think about Derek? And I was like, holy crap. That's a great idea. Cause I, cause like you said, we had talked about it already and I've been like, Oh man, he'd be great for it. So I'm glad you even thought about me. We haven't spoken before this in what, 10 years. I'll never forget you. Yeah.
00:21:30
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So true. Get a broom. So sweet. I did not expect role play to be this good as a DM. My favorite thing is to just set something up and then sit here and shut up for 20 minutes while you guys just go, go, go. And so as we're recording this, the Wolver Jack episode just released and which I think will be forever, at least for us, will be forever known as the Wolver Jack episode.
Audience Resonance with Roleplay Moments
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And that whole moment is a great example of
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me just being like, and this is why, well, okay, I don't want to get too far in the weeds here, but it's a great example of me wanting to have some of these little slow moments in our adventure to give you guys space to create something that, you know, it seems like you guys are just really good at creating, whether it's Gwyn doing something with Dale, or Krigs trying to chop down a tree with a hammer, or Daven trying to, you know, trying to just get to know people and asking good questions and bringing people
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being a sneaky sneak. Or just sneak off and do something weird, or jocks are sneaking off to make his bruise, or you guys talk. I mean, all these things that just happen and come out, and that doesn't happen if I skip travels, per se, or skip camping, or whatever. So I'm thinking, do the listeners want to hear that little stuff? And then I'm like, well, yeah, because that's when the fun, like, memorable stuff happens. Literally, I got a text message from a friend of mine this week that said, wolverjack? Or the big question?
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And I'm like, see that he's a guy listening. He doesn't even know anything about D&D, except for what he's heard from our podcast. And he just loves, you know, he's like, I can't wait till next, you know, next Wednesday, because I want to hear what's next. And I think that's just a cool thing.
Storytelling Approach and Organic Development
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Uh and then a lot of that is because you guys are creating all of this relationship and this story and that I didn't know uh I the the campaigns i've run in the past i've been really lucky because i've had guys who are committed guys who play their characters well and they do a good job i've only had minimal conflict in my groups and but i haven't had a group that
00:23:36
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just free flows and yes ands. If you've spent any time in improv or theater, just goes on the roleplay as long as they can. Sometimes I even have to jump in and go, all right, so you're going to take a rest now, right? Just get the ball rolling as you guys are such. I'm curious, does anybody here actually have any acting or improv experience? I do.
00:24:00
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Um, if you count high school theater, yeah, sure. Yeah. I do. I've never been in theater ever. Yeah. Plays grew up in theater. So did I. Yeah. I did sound tech. I wasn't really acting. Yeah. I was always on the tech side of things. Yeah. So, so from, uh, from high school better than I don't know, was that a double honor thespian or whatever? And then I did some community theater. So nothing like super special from you sing, Mikey.
00:24:28
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I have sang, yes. But there hasn't been a whole lot of musical theater on my resume.
Character and NPC Connections
00:24:38
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Well, make your next character a bard and then it'll work out just fine. I was about to say, can there be a night where Joxer just sings for a good like 12 minutes? Have a Joxer, sea shanty.
00:24:50
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Yeah, just a musical number. I'll try. It'll be a full four one hour session of just the the the jockser story. The musical. Jocks are the musical. Yeah.
00:25:06
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So let's get into a little bit specific about the campaign for the next little bit, just specific things. First off is Wild Hill in itself. This is partly just my dungeon master curiosity. What stands out to you? What or who has stood out to you in Wild Hill or about Wild Hill? Is there anything in particular that
00:25:26
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you've taken as something that's the most interesting thing to your character or to you as a player about Wild Hill Place. You start us again. I love Tomba because I know who it's based after. Come with me, please. Yeah. Literally, a person from our childhood, I know who that character is dedicated after. You knew a gnome?
00:25:52
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Yes, I did actually. No, it's the voice is perfect. Perfect. He was a short little Hispanic guy at a Mexican restaurant in Carlsbad, New Mexico, and he would tap you on the head with a menu. If you're a little kid coming to the restaurant, he'd tap you on the head and say, follow me, please, and take you to your seat. It was amazing. He was the best. That was his exact voice. That's a perfect
00:26:17
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Did you guys talk about this or did you just pick it up and you were I pulled it out and then I asked Blaze the next after that first session if he knew who it was and he was like, yes, I know who that is. I've been hit in the head with a menu a couple of times. So I love Tomba. He's great. Francine, great character, great story. I've fully enjoyed the arc of Francine Einhorn so far. And then I have kind of a kinship with the armor bearer.
Complex Player-NPC Relationships
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as Craig's being, you know, dwarven. They have that little, that bond. It's kind of fun. Uh, and the whole back and forth where so far she's the only one that has any idea potentially anything about me is fantastic. And, uh, obviously Tolliver, I love the whole session where we just get blown apart by Tolliver.
00:27:12
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Fantastic. We'll get into that one. Yep. All right. That was Mikey next, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's been interesting to actually see these characters like unveil themselves and then Mel. I think the whole drinking scene was kind of an amusing moment for me just because
00:27:37
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I felt like you weren't 100% prepared, but you just kind of rose to that occasion. And Mel will be either my new buddy or we will be enemies whenever we get there. And then it's been interesting.
00:27:58
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for Joxer, because he's battling this life where he doesn't want to be a spoiled brat. And so whenever he sees people hurting, he gets really like,
00:28:13
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upset and wants to help. And so whenever we walked in for when VIP was missing, that was just my first instinct for, well, I don't know about anybody else, but I'm here and I will help you.
00:28:30
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Go get yourselves fixed up. Here's some money. Nice. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, you did, didn't you? Like, go get your armor fixed here. I'll pay for it. Yeah. Yeah. I'll do full disclosure on the drinking game. I've done a drinking game a couple of times with my other group, and we kind of found the dice system that worked OK for it. So that's kind of where I was kind of ready in case it ever happened, you know?
00:28:53
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For some reason, D&D always goes into drinking games. Yeah, it's not uncommon. But it worked out really fun,
Emotional NPC Interactions
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though. And I didn't fudge any dice rolls. And I just love how the dice often do that, where things just turn out in the most hilarious or entertaining or just story-driven way, just letting the dice help you tell the story. It's so fun.
00:29:16
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Yeah, I was I was so stressed out that like I was just gonna pass out and vomit on everybody's like Yeah, and you know that could have been just as good and just as funny. Yeah But him and you ending up having to like meeting up with Sariah and then being like hey He's yeah, he may be not ready to go and she's all mad and stormed off. I'm like that was so perfect. That was great Yeah, it was so great
00:29:39
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Awesome Gwyn or Gwyn Ash Gwyn whatever about you as same person uh for me I Think the most like the characters that Gwyn Kind of attached herself to it or at least in her mind was Edie Maris and Vip because Maris and Vip were the first elves that she had seen in a long time like she grew up on the countryside and so
00:30:08
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to her, they were like, kin she never had, basically. And I think that's why she really got mad when Edie and Marys left because, one, also working on Francine's case, who, when also
00:30:25
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me also finds like very interesting. Um, it was just very hard. She's not good at letting go. So like she has her friends like the party. Um, but she was hoping that Marius and Edie would stick around and the fact that they left like really hurt Gwen. Yeah, sure. But, uh, Francine is very, is very good character that Gwen feels very like relatable to in a sense. Cause obviously she's trying to find her dad and
00:30:53
Speaker
Like Gwen's father has passed, or at least that's what she's been told, but she feels like he's still alive, so.
00:31:01
Speaker
Nice. Yeah. Funny thing about VIP and Edie and Mariahs is they were there to help you learn about how things work in Wild Hill.
Mysterious Campaign Elements
00:31:10
Speaker
And that was basically the whole plan from the beginning, full disclosure, DM screen down. And the connection was too good that I was like, okay, we got to keep these guys going. That's how, that's how Dungeon Master does it sometimes, you know, you're just like, okay, there's a good connection here. We got to play, play in this space for a while. Yep. He was just there to give you directions. And next thing you know, he's there in every episode.
00:31:30
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I got story after story from other campaigns of that being the case. It just tends to always happen. Was there any more Ash or was that?
00:31:39
Speaker
No, and I liked Tolliver. I thought that night was a very good night for session recording because that's when things, sorry, something got caught in my throat. That's when things like started to get mysterious. And as a person who likes spooky things, I was very into it. I was very excited.
00:32:01
Speaker
I think we can all agree that there was kind of like a tipping point to a different level. You know, it got brought up to a different level at that point, both with our role playing and with just the story, you know? Exactly. Like it felt like, yeah, we were doing a great job and then Tulliver happened and I was like, all right, this is legit. Like I'm in it to win it. Like this is going to be a good story. Just got real. Yeah.
00:32:23
Speaker
For me a lot of it is just the slow burn that has happened through the entire thing with wild hill it's a. You know it's when we came here it was just a small town where they just go out and they hunt for things and you know the higher people go hunt okay there's nothing to it. But as we go along whether it's just in our imaginations the story that we're making up ourselves or whether it's actually. A thing that we haven't uncovered yet you know it seems like there's a lot more to not only every aspect of it but every npc that we've run into as well.
00:32:48
Speaker
You know it's the widow tall of her there's there's more to her than just being some fortune teller you know there's the the chief we know that there's something there's gotta be something going on with him. Even with the like Sariah who early on. I had a lot of contact with and she seemed like she just goes and does these things well now she's kind of coming off as she knows a little bit more than she was putting on. So that's one thing that I'd like to suspect that the more that we play the more that we're in this town the more that we can discover things that are happening.
Evolving Narratives and Character Backstories
00:33:17
Speaker
Which is interesting and Sarai is especially one of the characters for for Davin because he's had a lot of interactions with her now and they've all been kind of completely different interactions, you know, one where he's trying to get information from her one where he's trying to just like hide his identity from her and it's been kind of an interesting contact so far.
00:33:39
Speaker
Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I've enjoyed the slow burn too and I like the little stories with underlying story continuing to be told as you go and I think that's a you guys are doing a good job of
00:33:53
Speaker
digging into things and then going, you know what though, I think if we just move on and we just go do this thing, we're going to uncover more. We just need to keep moving and that makes for a lot of fun and makes it fun for a DM. I don't know if anybody else has done this, but listening back through the podcast, I feel like there's other things that we've missed that we, if we could have dug a little bit deeper. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes. Oh, listening back through is like, I almost feel like I'm getting clues the second time around from the DM about certain things that I missed the first time.
00:34:22
Speaker
I don't know if you want to admit any of that. Yeah I mean I'm my strategy is to lay breadcrumbs everywhere I mean I'm like dumping buckets of breadcrumbs so. I only found one. Yeah you guys are going to find them and I'm not going to reveal anything till I'm ready you know.
00:34:43
Speaker
Now they'll come a point where you could force my hand probably and that'll be great but there are things going on that your characters are gonna uncover and discover and some of you will care, some of you may not but it'll be whatever but then as you've seen with Widow Tolliver, there's stuff going on with each of you individually that is a whole new, a whole another piece of the story,
Dynamic Storytelling and World Building
00:35:08
Speaker
right?
00:35:08
Speaker
You each got something going on that's going to have to be uncovered and maybe it'll all happen at the same time as this Wild Hill thing. Maybe not. I don't know. We got to keep playing to find out. And that's one of my favorite parts so far about this campaign is in the other ones that I have played, people have created backstories. Some people do, some people don't, but they rarely have much to do with the story. In my perfect scenario, it's a mix between the DM story and the player stories all kind of intertwining. And that seems to be what's going on so far.
00:35:37
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I'm aiming at. I don't want to center it all around your guys' stories, because if we solve what you guys have going on, then game over. And here's behind the DM screen. Again, my whole approach is you guys exist in a world that is alive and living, and things are happening. And when we play, you have a choice to engage in this world in whatever way you want.
00:36:05
Speaker
what you don't engage with is still gonna go on as if it would have if you didn't engage with it. And so things are happening in Wild Hill while you're gone. And I know what those things are, right? So this is all moving and things are happening and some of it has to do with you guys and your characters and their lives and some
Town as a Character in the Story
00:36:26
Speaker
of it doesn't. Some of it will never be discussed, but my brain's never not thinking about what's happening in this little,
00:36:33
Speaker
ant farm sandbox that I've created. So that's kind of my approach is, and that's why there's five, six jobs for you to take, choose one, and the other guys are gonna take their jobs and they're gonna come back from hunts with whatever's going on from their hunts. So anyway, that kind of creates this fun ebb and flow between your stories and then the story of the town. The town, I'll tell you this,
00:37:01
Speaker
One of my favorite movies is Rocky, the first one. The thing I like about that movie is the city of Philadelphia is a character in the movie, to me. That's how I do
00:37:17
Speaker
Dungeons and Dragons. The place you're in is as much a character as you guys are and all the NPCs are. And so it's all moving together. So anyway, I got in the weeds there a little bit. But one more question here that I will ask you. Well, the first thing that happened in our game for me that made me go, oh, crap, this is going to be awesome, is when that elk almost killed Davin in one hit.
Impact of the Elk Encounter
00:37:49
Speaker
I want to know what went through your minds when that happened. First real combat of the game and that happened first round. What were your thoughts?
00:37:59
Speaker
I'm going to use my held action to go first because Phyllis is about me. Yeah, it is. I wasn't too worried about it because I do know that Gwyn does have healing capabilities just as a meta situation. And I know how D&D works where, I mean, it would have dropped me to zero hit points and I have three death saves. I wasn't expecting to necessarily die in that situation.
00:38:19
Speaker
But at the same time, it's always kind of jarring when you get hit one time, especially with a Nat 20 with on your first time getting hit by anything in the game and then almost going down. I think I had four hit points after that. I was like, oh, OK, I am really squishy. Like I know sorcerers don't have a lot of survivability, but I'm going to have to play it real safe in this game because otherwise I'm going to have to come up with a new character really fast.
00:38:48
Speaker
Yeah. Anybody else? I think, oh man, it, it was like, it was our first session and it was still me getting used to, to getting in the head of Craig's, um,
00:39:04
Speaker
But in that moment, I think it was kind of a defining moment for me and how Krigs would feel in that moment is very protective. And it is kind of a paladin trade, I guess. I've not really played protective characters, I guess.
00:39:21
Speaker
Even though I've played like a warlock, he is kind of protective in weird ways. Anyway, it was a defining moment for Krieg's personality because in my backstory and things that have yet to be revealed, he is kind of just a big hearted
00:39:41
Speaker
little man.
Character Development through Conflict
00:39:44
Speaker
So to see Davin, who he barely knows at this point, literally just met him like a day or two prior, but on this adventure that he's currently in, to see someone get so demolished, no offense,
00:40:01
Speaker
That wasn't even the great elk, I don't think. I think that was just one of the regular ones. Just a little boy. That's my thought was, I was ready for that big elk to wreck you guys. And then when that little one did it, I was like, oh no, I made a completely out of balance combat for the first session on a podcast. And then no one could hit it but me, that was hilarious. TPK incoming. And I was like, we're going to have to start all over, but no, it turned out okay.
00:40:27
Speaker
Yeah, it was it was definitely a defining moment for for the character. Just having that that trait of his come out that that sort of need to know you're not going to do this. And that's it's not in his character to want to fight like elk or something that he would consider.
00:40:47
Speaker
like a defenseless creature necessarily or I mean, it's just not that's not him. But to see to see Daven almost die, flipped his switch of like, nope, not today. Yeah, nice.
00:41:03
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know for Joxer. I mean, he didn't go to the ceremony. He didn't really care about any of this. He had his own purpose. But then having like, you know, I'll say a newfound buddy, you know, or, you know, somewhat of a buddy, just get just
00:41:21
Speaker
to repeat demolish next to him. I think that whole battle just destroyed that whole architecture that I had of being that happy-go-lucky, I'm gonna be free, and Joe just kind of shackled him to like, nope, I care about things. You need to not die. All of you need to stop, and I'm just gonna drink and try to punch things.
00:41:50
Speaker
So Joxers had a couple of those moments then of the whole, will you guys please stop dying around me? Yeah. Yeah. Joxers seen that a couple of times. Oh, it's it's it's yeah. I almost went all the way. I was I was just like one one roll away from just chasing after the goblins and leaving you guys behind. Yeah. Yeah. That part was interesting. Go ahead, Gwen. Sorry.
00:42:17
Speaker
Oh, no.
Ethical Dilemmas in Gameplay
00:42:19
Speaker
So when Devon got hit.
00:42:22
Speaker
I was completely blown away. I was like, oh my god, we're all just going to die. This is how, like Joxer said, this is only going to be a week and then we'll be done. Because that happened. And I was like, oh, well, we're all just going to die. But also, being a druid, listening back to those episodes, I talked this over with my husband because he was like, why did you fight this elk? And I was like,
00:42:48
Speaker
Well, it was our first combat, so I was ready to play. And also, Daven had gotten hurt to where he just barely had any health. So it made, like, Gwendolyn want to fight. But she did feel bad afterwards because this was obviously a sacred creature. And being playing a druid is kind of hard sometimes because in real life, Ash is like a meat eater and very much
00:43:14
Speaker
humane towards animals in a sense of when it comes to mass production or whatever. And playing a druid, I feel like you have to be more with nature to a certain extent.
00:43:26
Speaker
I play a druid in my other campaign and it is a weird juxtaposition between trying to play a druid true and trying to actually not die from the beasts that you would normally not kill that are killing you, you know exactly like do it do I kill this animal because it's hurting my friends or do I kill this don't kill this animal because I am a druid and Nature is sacred and we shouldn't harm
00:43:50
Speaker
Yeah, and I think we definitely needed we needed our pattern a pat on our own back with the whole boar situation
00:43:57
Speaker
Definitely why I refuse to attack and also why I, uh, I, I was, I wanted it to be more revealing than I think it actually was, but the whole kind of praying to the woods and asking forgiveness essentially for the, the killing of the elk and wanting to bring the spirit back and like have it be, you know, not just gone was huge for Craig's.
00:44:25
Speaker
Yeah, I appreciated that a lot. And it's another reason why I decided to burn the bones afterwards, because after the fighting happened and I didn't do well, and on top of the elk passing away, I was like, my druid probably wouldn't have fought this animal.
00:44:43
Speaker
after thinking about it, but after going a few hours of introductions and then being like, this is your first combat. I was so excited. I was very excited to jump in and do all my spells that that night. Honestly, I think that the fact that that Daven just got demolished, took away any any like decision making we were going to have. Yeah, that was like that. That moment just stopped us. It was like, oh, never mind. We need to protect our own.
00:45:13
Speaker
And here we are. It became Kill or Be Killed pretty quick there. Yeah, it did. And going off of what Ash said is, in the podcast, this was episode, I believe, three that we ended up fighting the Great Oak. But for us, it was session one because we're doing two or three episodes at a time. So we all just introduced ourselves, basically just made these characters that we don't even really understand that much yet.
00:45:36
Speaker
In the first combat, I almost died, you know. In like seconds. Okay. You see these animals and for up and Davins. And the natural 20. And that stuff came from you guys failing stealth roles, you know. So it was they they were alerted to your presence because they were highly alert. And then it was like, oh, they're just going to charge you because they're protecting the herd. Like that's what these elks were there for. And they were in defense mode. So, you know, my my whole
00:46:05
Speaker
My whole idea was if they see if they sense a threat, the the ones they're protecting will flee and they will rise up to try to, you know, give
Reflecting on Combat Choices
00:46:15
Speaker
them time. And it played off. It played out exactly how expected, except I expected.
00:46:21
Speaker
the great elk to be the thing that scared you guys not just one of the normal ones that's just literally a monster manual great elk like it's it's not you know it was nothing uh i mean that's what a tank does it just takes all the damage while the other ones try and dish it out right right i know it's hard for the dm to expect what the players are going to do but did you think that we would not kill the elk
00:46:43
Speaker
I was a little afraid you would try... Well, no, honestly, I... You're gonna hate this. Are you gunning for us to kill the elk? No, you're gonna hate this. You could have spoken to that elk and learned some things.
00:46:55
Speaker
There was a full non-combat option there Usually I have one of those a non combat option not always but but most of the time Because I want you guys to have just throw them out the door. I've got fireball. You're not gonna need this
00:47:15
Speaker
but there was a non-combat option and I tried to kind of hint at it at the end there with it kind of giving it health to you. Yeah, that whole, that crushed me. Yeah, it was an intelligent creature that could have been communicated with and would have had some sort of, you could have had some sort of encounter, engagement with it.
00:47:41
Speaker
But the sneaking up on it and startling the other elk kind of just made it where, okay, it's go time for them. You can for sure hear it in my voice when you listen back to that episode where that just the, oh no.
00:47:56
Speaker
I knew at that moment this was all a huge mistake, but I had to stay true to Krigs in that moment. He was on this warpath. Once that switch has flipped, he can't really turn it off.
00:48:16
Speaker
Yeah, and Daven at that point was essentially peeing stomach acid. There was no chance he was going to just let this thing run away. Yeah, I felt super bad after all the combat was done and I was just like,
00:48:31
Speaker
Talk to it. It's fine Talk to it. Yeah, you guys hate me Well, and I I did I did kind of pour it on pretty heavy afterwards with all the things that happened with the antlers and the
00:48:47
Speaker
bones making the fire burn different colors and I wanted you guys to realize this wasn't just like an animal, you know? Oh, I felt it. Yeah, I know. I know you did. I got messages. Joxer wants to go back and steal those antlers so he can take some for his... I got hate mail from Blaze after the night. I hate you. You're the worst. I'm disowning you. We are no longer related.
00:49:13
Speaker
You're going to get more now. I would say David probably cared the least about the fact that we killed this magical elk.
Tolliver's Session and Character Backstories
00:49:20
Speaker
It was more for him. I mean, he, he realized it was a bad thing that we did and it seems to upset everyone else more than him. And he, he's not apathetic toward the situation, but for him, it's more about there was more to the story than what this elk represented initially. And that's what kind of makes him curious. He's a very curious man.
00:49:37
Speaker
Yeah. What about? Go ahead. Did I dispel those antlers? I understand if you can't answer the question. Did you dispel them? The dispel magic on them. Right. I know you tried. Right there in the chief's table. You tried. When I was angry and he was looking at me very creepily. I don't want to tell you whether you did or not. He was like a 13 or a 15. I don't know. I don't want to tell you. That'll come up.
00:50:02
Speaker
could be revealed in a future opportunity. I do want to ask you guys, I do want to ask you guys, and I know some of this, we've talked about it at length, but I want to know some of your guys' reaction to the Whittle Tolliver section, several sessions later. Oh my gosh. I'll just say real quick, I was very excited about that, because for me, that was how I was introducing
00:50:28
Speaker
The fact that you each of your stories is going to be a part of what's happening here. So I paired ahead of time. Hey, I'm going to make this to where, you know, each of you have something going on here that I'm excited. I'm really glad Daven ended up doing it because he almost didn't. He really ended up doing it because it was a.
00:50:50
Speaker
a great moment that, again, it was basically this, okay guys, we're introducing a little bit of your story to each of these, for each of these characters here. So anyway, go ahead. I will answer this if you will tell me how much of your pants got pooped when I drew twice.
00:51:11
Speaker
Oh, I mean, I wasn't that worried about it. I'd made up. I literally improved that whole second time. I figured you had to, but it still was like so good. I was like, Oh no, he was ready for me. I was ready for the first one. I wasn't ready for the second one, but I mean.
00:51:28
Speaker
I'm ready in the sense that I can see the future, but I'm not ready in the sense that I had anything. I literally had what your cards looked like and everything prepared ahead of time. For sure. I didn't want to leave it up to real tarot pulls or something to try to make that make sense. I went the narrative option instead. Definitely.
00:51:50
Speaker
I loved every second of that whole scene. I think that was one of my proudest moments in the very beginning, just getting to Tolliver's. And it really felt like kind of a moment where everything came together. I saw the culmination of everything we've been putting together.
00:52:13
Speaker
just finally solidify into something awesome.
Impact of Tolliver's Session on Campaign
00:52:19
Speaker
Um, not to say I hadn't felt great about the show before then, but I was super invested from that point. Like just sold. It was great. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Mikey. Yeah. So, so I, I have a question. How did, how did you feel about like probably the first and only bratty moment that jocks was really had?
00:52:44
Speaker
going into that i mean i don't know i i felt like i wasn't expecting you to act that way necessarily but and i'll be honest and this may sound cheesy but in those types of moments especially a character like tolver i'm think trying to think like she would
00:53:05
Speaker
And she couldn't give two craps how you acted. You know, she was like, she was like, all right, you know, I've been around too much to let you bother me. So sit down and let's do this, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And and like for for Joxer going in there, he he he had a pretty good idea. OK, so this if this fortune teller is going to tell me anything, it's one of two things and it's this thing. And then the moment I hear it, I don't want anybody to see it.
00:53:34
Speaker
But I'm so excited. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I could, I sensed that too. And I thought that was cool. Yeah. Yeah. I loved it. It was, it was a great way to, to pull us all in after, especially after the first, the first battle there. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Gwen Ash.
00:53:56
Speaker
Um, I, so like I said earlier, Tulliver was like a turning point for me. Cause I was very, it made me realize that, Oh man, this podcast story is just, it's going to get so famous. I'm so excited. Cause I, I really liked the mystery of it. Cause in the question that I asked Tulliver at that moment, I had no idea what to ask, but I also thought what would Gwendolyn ask? And obviously she wouldn't ask anything about herself. She would ask.
00:54:24
Speaker
about what's happening here in Wild Hill and the animals and obviously Gwendolyn already knew the answer but the part I liked most that I think is also in that episode was before they went to Tolliver's where basically
00:54:39
Speaker
My mind is shown, um, where I talk about Dale and his backstory, which I, at first, I wasn't going to give Dale backstory at all, but I was like, ah, he needs one. He's my friend. Um, the next day, I'm going to be Dale. I'm going to be a character. I have a question for you then Ash, it was, did you already have a backstory set up or did you come up with that in the moment?
00:55:05
Speaker
Oh, I had a backstory set up. I had told Blaze that I had a backstory because I was like, I because I'd be at work and sometimes there's like walls in the middle of the day. And I would just think about D&D. I thought about it constantly. I still do. And I was like, Dale needs a backstory. And so I gave him one. And then in the moment,
00:55:24
Speaker
was how you actually see me in that moment and how my brain works because I ended up taking Dale's backstory and then mixing it up with when I was talking about my father and
00:55:39
Speaker
It just shows how she tries to connect Dale and her father because she wants her father to like be back in her life and you know, be a friend and Dale is going to find out Dale was her father all along. Yeah, that's what I'm expecting. He's been wild shaped this whole time. But like, um, I don't know.
Daven's Session Revelations and Foreshadowing
00:56:00
Speaker
I,
00:56:00
Speaker
Didn't I didn't know how how much people would take that as oh my god, this lady can't speak like a full sentence But that's that's how my mind works. It's very scattered and That's how I speak and I feel like that's how Gwendolyn would have felt especially being flustered with what's going on in Wild Hill and Very cool. I think going to Tolliver helped clear her mind a little bit sure Got some confirmation what she was already thinking really right? Yeah, exactly
00:56:31
Speaker
All right, Derek. All right, Ash, I'm going to talk about his moment for a minute. Ash is amazing in the fact that she has not listened to that part of the podcast. She didn't want to know the secrets of Davin that they were all left for. She's going to take her headphones off and leave while we finish. We'll send you a text whenever we're done with it. Okay. Bear B.
00:56:55
Speaker
Devin definitely did not want to sit down in that chair because he had a pretty good idea that something was going to come up that he wanted to just completely ignore and leave. Basically, it's just all denial for him. When he did sit down in that chair and what did happen, that face that came up and then spoke to him, he
00:57:15
Speaker
It wasn't necessarily surprised, but also was at the same time. I don't know. He definitely had some mixed feelings about it because it's not something that he didn't expect, but he didn't want it to happen. That was the whole reason why he was denying the whole thing. It's not that he doesn't believe in that kind of stuff. It's that he just wants to pretend like it doesn't exist so that he can continue to be happy without that popping up in his life.
00:57:41
Speaker
I don't wanna put words in Daven's mouth or thoughts in his head, but it felt to me like when you know something is true and you're so scared to admit it, and that would've- That was pretty much it. That would've confirmed something that Daven didn't want confirmed, right? Yeah, because the more you learn about his backstory, the more you're gonna learn that
00:57:59
Speaker
Um, what that has to do with it is something that he kind of almost spurred the moment chose and then not expecting it to really affect his life. And it has really affected his life. And it's so far been all positive. Um, and now it's like, he, he's always kind of had this thing in the back of his mind that, um, something negative is going to come from this. And, and I think that was the moment he knew it was going to happen. And then it was pretty much confirmed that something's going to come back and haunt him. Yeah.
00:58:27
Speaker
Yeah, pretty good. Pretty good stuff. Did you say Candyman a couple of times in the mirror? Yeah, not quite. And then Blaze with the quality production value on that section there. Yeah, it was great. He killed it. He killed it, making my voice sound way cooler than it is. But yeah, I liked the way it went down with Daven because you drew extra cards too, didn't you?
00:58:52
Speaker
Uh, it was, um, how did that work? It was, uh, he, you returned two cards. Yeah. It was the cards didn't read anything for her. So she made him draw two more cards. That's right. And they wouldn't read either. Yeah. And, uh, and that's the whole idea. It was your, yeah, it's, there's something intertwined there. That's not letting her get a reading. And, uh, she was, she was having, having trouble and it wasn't her fault. It was yours. So that was awesome.
Reflecting on Campaign Progress and Enjoyment
00:59:20
Speaker
Only partly Devin's fault.
00:59:22
Speaker
Yeah, true true. No, that was awesome. Cool. Well, I'll tell you what, you know, I've had fun. I look forward to this campaign every every week whenever we're going to do it in our off weeks. I'm I'm, you know, bummed that we're not recording that week. But it's been cool getting this far through this adventure with you guys. And, you know, we're moving into
00:59:49
Speaker
some more interesting stuff. I think the ball is really rolling on some of the story of Wild Hill, and I'm excited to see where you guys end up. Anybody have any other questions for anyone else or any thoughts about anything you want to share before we wrap up this little powwow session? Just a thank you to all of you guys. You guys are awesome. I'm really, really glad this is a thing. Glad we're able to do this. Oh, same.
01:00:15
Speaker
I got to say, if there's an electromagnetic pulse and we couldn't make podcasts anymore, I'd still want to play Dungeons and Dragons with you guys. Yeah, likewise.
01:00:26
Speaker
Um, on, on that note too, I'd like to take a large, huge shout out to, uh, blaze for putting a lot more time than is, uh, than all of us are for this production. For sure. He's committed a lot of his time to this. Yeah, the production and everything is always real good. And, uh, I'm getting better at muting when I have to like cough or sniff or something. That's appreciated.
01:00:55
Speaker
I will say I'm a little bit mad at all of you guys because nobody tuned into my live sandwich eating stream on Christmas.
01:01:03
Speaker
Oh my gosh. I was there. I was just creeping. Did you actually do it? Did you? No, no, no. I had family in town. I literally was going to do it if I didn't have family in town. No way. That's disappointing. Man, if I'd known that was happening. If you did it and I'd have known, I'd have been there. Yeah. You just got to post it, you know, in the Discord. I've watched Gwen a couple of times. I've watched Ash's stream a couple of times.
01:01:30
Speaker
What were you supposed to do for your sandwich? Sorry. Oh, I believe it was a macaroni and cheese sandwich. That's right. Yeah. Well.
01:01:38
Speaker
That was the plan. Well, I was going to do just like craft macaroni and cheese between two slices of bread. And then I was going to make like a gourmet style mac and cheese sandwich, like something actually good and delicious. Um, so maybe I'll plan that in the future. Hey, so listeners, this is a nice little, uh, little clue into when we do a six hour session, this is what four of those hours is like. And the other two is actual stuff you hear in the podcast. And that is why blaze has to work so hard.
01:02:08
Speaker
Yeah, someday we'll have a Patreon where we'll post the rest of that stuff for those crazy. Sure, there you go. Yeah, those people who want to hear us just talk about macaroni and cheese. Yeah, yeah. I like mac and cheese, it was delicious.
Conclusion and Social Media Promotion
01:02:21
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But anyway, yeah, thank you, Blaze. Thank you, Derek and Ash and Mikey for playing Dungeons and Dragons with me.
01:02:28
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so I can be a 37-year-old geek. And thank you for everybody who listens. I'll do this part for you, Blaze. You don't have to do it. You could follow us on Twitter at the Hired Swords, the website's thehiredswords.com. Tell your friends about the podcast and how much you love Wolver Jacks and fortune tellers and all that fun stuff and great mighty elks. And leave a review. If you love us a lot and we're like, you just really enjoy listening and you want other people to find us, leaving a review on
01:02:58
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Apple podcasts or whatever the podcast app of your choice is that will allow reviews, leave that review because it helps other people find us. So thank you so much. And we will get back to the adventure in the next the next, I guess, Wednesday after you hear this. So see you later, everybody. Thanks, guys.