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Episode 82: The Biggest Party Of The Summer
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This week the boys are hanging out talking the G1 climax, the biggest party of the summer, a trip to LA for Bar Wrestling, and Garrett spends the last 10 minutes yelling his review of Hobbs & Shaw at you!
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Introduction and G1 Climax Speculations
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a pro wrestling hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender, and with me, as always, a man who has four points in the G1 Climax, Derek Halpin. This is news to me, but I don't think that's gonna do me any good.
00:00:17
Speaker
Like four points, what's that gonna get me? Nothing, no. I mean, it does get you respect from some people for having beaten two people in the G1 Climax. For having any points at all? Okay, let's say you're in the G1 Climax and you have defeated two people. Who are the two people that you think you were able to beat out of the current G1 roster? Well, based on what I've seen recently, I feel like I actually have a shot at Moxley.
00:00:47
Speaker
I'll get into that later. And fuck, man. I don't know. I'm going to go ahead and say you're probably going to go ahead and get a piece of bad luck, Falle or Lance Archer. So you think there's people I could hang with in the G1? Yeah. I mean, maybe I pick two people that I don't love.
Fictional Fun and Sponsorships
00:01:08
Speaker
But I mean, you're not beating Okada. Would you pay money to see me fight Ishii? Oh, man.
00:01:16
Speaker
I mean, I would have to be in your corner and I don't want to be near Ishi. So I think I like you too much like as much as you know, we joke about you that worried. Yeah, I think I would I might be more worried walking through there than you are.
00:01:35
Speaker
That's fair. That's very fair based on past experiences. And let's face it, the guy who walks to the ring with the other guy always gets beat up at some point and I might not have even done anything. That's true. I disagree with the part about you having not done anything because you put me in the tournament apparently.
00:01:55
Speaker
Yeah, but you could have backed out at any point. I'm just not that kind of person, Garrett. We got to the airport. I said, are you sure you want to do this? You said, yeah, I am. We sat there for an hour. Our flight was delayed. We had more time to think about it. You said, let's do this. 14 hour plane ride. I watched a TV out of Aaron Brockovich. You watched Oceans 12. I said, are you sure? You said, yes. Also, I think Abushi would be the funniest person to add to a new Oceans movie.
00:02:25
Speaker
I said, what would he do for the team? And you said, obviously, hard kicks. We landed in Japan, and then you fucking beat Bad Luck Falle on your first try. Are you fucking with me? And this is actually a fan fiction that somebody finally sent in to this show about us, and it's about you managing me in the G1 Climax. We bring meaning to the name.
00:02:52
Speaker
I've just been waiting on somebody who listens to this podcast to write a fan fiction of us. And that seemed like a good one. No, we wanted erotic. And that's what I'm saying. You know, give it have to be erotic.
00:03:05
Speaker
I think we specified erotic- Now yes, we obviously specified erotic. It doesn't have to start with us fucking, but it ends with us fucking. Well maybe, maybe it becomes erotic in the sense that I fight Kota Ibushi in the G1, and without Kenny in his life, Kota's going through a weird time and he's looking for a replacement, and he finds me.
00:03:27
Speaker
You're probably weirded out that I volunteered myself for that. No, I'm more upset that you took, you know, Derek and Garrett's G1 Climax, and you left me for Kota Obushi, and now I'm just
Match Analysis: G1 Climax
00:03:39
Speaker
stuck in Japan. I don't think you would be that upset about being stuck in Japan, because from what it sounds like, you really enjoyed yourself there. It was a wonderland, and I wanna go back. Hit our goddamn music.
00:04:26
Speaker
So, speaking of Japan... Eh?
00:04:30
Speaker
Eh? Eh? Eh? You wanna talk about it? Yeah, we always start talking about the G1 way too late in this show. And I feel like if anyone actually, I'm sorry, my levels spiked there because I'm popping open a White Claw, my new drink that I have while I do this podcast. Do we have a sponsorship with White Claw that you're not telling me about? God, I wish. Honestly, I would do it for a case. One case of 12.
00:04:57
Speaker
And you would you would continuously plug white claw on this podcast just for one free 12 pack, one free 12 pack. My rates are low, but also their gain is low.
00:05:13
Speaker
You get what you pay for a white claw. Yeah, like they, I mean, you can pay Joey Janela if you want, or you can just send me a case and I'll keep telling all of our listeners who I think are probably, who's drinking a white claw right now? Raise your hand. Maybe Queen of the Ring is. I don't know if anyone else that we know drinks white claw on the reg, but
00:05:36
Speaker
Yeah, we're gonna be having a few White Claws come all out weekend. That can be said for sure. Will we be at Starcast? Who the fuck knows? Will I be drinking White Claws certain as fuck? Shit. Knows, but White Claws are going down the hatch. Hey, speaking of paying people, if you wanna pay us a favor, because that's as good as anything, you should hop on over to iTunes, leave us five stars and a nice review,
00:06:03
Speaker
As always, you know what I'm about to say, but I'll say it anyway. If you leave us a nice review, you can suggest something for us to check out as long as it's slightly related to the world of professional wrestling. Could be a movie, could be a television show, could be a lot of things, could be something fun on YouTube. It could be motherfucking Hobbs and Shaw, which I am going to talk up at the end of this episode. Yeah.
00:06:27
Speaker
suggest something and then we will talk about it on this podcast for you. That's our, you know, that's your receipt. You give us the review. Here's your receipt. We talk about it on the pod. And, you know, if you want to send us something in the email, predetermedpodcastatgmail.com, you know, if you need to email me and say, Hey, Garrett, give me your address so I can send you some white claws. I'm up for it. You know, just give me the white claws. Give Garrett some more white claws.
00:06:57
Speaker
Garrett, yeah, you're right. We do usually put the G1 or at least New Japan. We give that the main event spot. A lot of times we save that for the end. We kind of throw it on as we're wrapping up. But we're not doing that today. We're going to talk about that at the top because we're getting towards the end of the G1. We watched a couple matches for this episode. Which one would you like to talk about first, buddy?
00:07:21
Speaker
Well, I think the one that everybody was pretty pumped for that was happening at all was Jon Moxley versus Toro Yano.
00:07:32
Speaker
Is this the first time I have seen what I would dub as a comedy match in New Japan? Is that fair to say? Not ever. I mean, that's kind of Toro Yano's thing. Like, he's the comedy match. No, no, no. I'm not saying that's ever happened. I'm saying the one that I've watched. Oh, yeah. Honestly, I figure you probably have skipped a fair amount of Toro Yano. He's towards the beginning of these shows, usually.
00:07:54
Speaker
Let me just tell you I was absolutely fucking delighted by this match And it was only like about a 10-minute match. Oh, I think it was less than that. I feel like it was maybe three It was a little longer than that because there was some shenanigans on the outside of the ring 506 role Let's just talk about the fact that John Moxley is not undefeated in the G1 anymore and Toru Yanu and his fucking tape Came in handy in this match
00:08:24
Speaker
I like, this was, you know how I have been saying I've been waiting for something to really put Moxley over for me? Is this it? This was it, Derek. I found it. Like him having a, I can't believe this just happened to me moment. Yeah. And him being, did you watch the press conference afterwards?
00:08:43
Speaker
Oh, I absolutely did. Just him needing to go ice his balls and just admitting that to beat Toro Yano you must become Toro Yano and that did not work for him tonight. So for those who didn't watch the match, Toro Yano did not want to fight Jon Moxley. Makes sense. So he tries bribing him with a DVD that he's already on and 10,000 yen.
00:09:10
Speaker
And that didn't work because Jon Moxley worked for WWE. He's got plenty of money. He's set. So he kicked that shit out of his hand and proceeded to try to fight him. He ran away. There was some shit on the outside. He broke out the tape. He tried to tape Moxley to the to the rail.
00:09:27
Speaker
But he got that reversed on him. He almost got counted out because Moxley taped him to the rail and... Which Moxley fucked up on that taping of Toroyano. Toroyano had to sell not very much tape for a lot longer than any of us were comfortable with.
00:09:44
Speaker
I thought it worked.
00:10:07
Speaker
in this fashion and so when he go they go back on the outside and toro yanoo ends up not what he ends up pulling what's his what's the guy who's with moxley right now so do you know the story going on there no i don't so do you remember that first moxley match he had yes and he grabbed the young lion and said this is mine now
00:10:27
Speaker
It just came back to me, yes. Moxley has named him Shooter, so that is Moxley's young lion that he has named Shooter that carries his belt around for him. Well that's perfect. Moxley's better with a thing, that's like his new plant. There's a lot of guys that are good with like an extra.
00:10:51
Speaker
Like sometimes that's just you need something to play off of and that's fine, especially since up to this point he really hasn't been like a comedy character, has he? No, like he's been completely serious and I think that's what I enjoyed about him is when I saw him, because we've seen him do like the stuff with the Janela, we've seen him do the stuff with Ishii, you know, hard-hitting brawler stuff.
00:11:12
Speaker
And then when he reminded me, hey, Garrett, I might do a match with Chuck Taylor here and there, and it's going to be a lot of fun for you. I realized, holy shit, I think I love Jon Moxley now. So do you feel like you got reminded like, yeah, he got plenty of practice doing funny stuff when he was Dean Ambrose in WWE. He can do this.
00:11:32
Speaker
I like knowing that he is going to be funny on occasion. He can be serious when he needs to, but clearly a match against Toroyano doesn't need to be like a 30-minute spectacular.
00:11:44
Speaker
So he's got, he's, he's, what's, what's the word? He's, he's diverse. He's versatile. He's versatile. That's what I'm looking for. He's got that in his back pocket. He pulls out in this match. I gotta say you sent me the post-match comments, which are fucking hilarious on their own. But after he tapes him to shooter, Toriyano tapes Moxley to shooter runs back in the ring the entire time they're taped together. In my mind, as I'm watching it, I'm thinking,
00:12:15
Speaker
Well, God, he's running out of time. I wonder how the hell they're gonna make this spot work.
00:12:19
Speaker
Like I was still up until the very last, up until like 19, I was still waiting on him, pulling him into the ring with him and it didn't happen. So when the count out happened, I kind of popped not for necessarily the result, but for the fact that like, I didn't expect it to end that way. And so Moxley gets his first new Japan loss on a technicality at count out, but it's still a loss. It doesn't make him look weak. It just looks kind of funny. And like he got outsmarted in a moment.
00:12:47
Speaker
You talked about the post-match, whatever, interview. Almost just as good as when he's sitting there getting untaped from Shooter. He's distraught. He's livid. And in the most serious voice you could imagine, he says, this is unacceptable. He does say that to the referee. And you know what? He's not wrong.
00:13:16
Speaker
He's not wrong, that is one that maybe shouldn't have been let go. There was a sporting moment where a man taped his opponent to another man, and the result came in because of that. And Jon Moxley just thought that was unprofessional. He thought that that was, as he said, unacceptable. And then he goes on a rant in the backstage area talking about, they could go beat the shit out of him, but that wouldn't do anything. He wants to learn his ways.
00:13:46
Speaker
See, now maybe later we can get an awesome tag team of Toro Yanou and Jon Moxley that he respects him, and I could see that being a fun tag team. Or maybe they start their own faction. He did whatever it took to win, Garrett, and he got the W. He appreciated that. Moxley respected it. We watched Moxley lose his first match. Did you happen to see the results of or catch any of him versus Jay White?
00:14:15
Speaker
I didn't, I heard people talking about it, but I didn't get to watch that one. So you don't know how it ended? I don't. Jay White beat Jon Moxley, my friend. Oh my god. Yeah. So he's got two losses now. But do you know that Toro Yano has three wins in the G1? Guess, do you know who those three are against now? Who? Naito, Moxley, and Jay White.
00:14:44
Speaker
So like the top guys are jobbin' to Yano. So it's like a running gag in the G1 this year. That Toro Yano has taken out some top guys. Yeah, I'm a fan of that. But Jay White, yeah, that match, this was the, it was actually a pretty good match between Moxley and Jay White, but it got me, like it was the first time that, I think it was because of this comedy match that I was like on board with Moxley, he was beating the shit out of Jay White, which I loved.
00:15:13
Speaker
and uh i was waiting for that it was a good match though it got me thinking though like is j white like i want to see him lose right now so he's doing a good job like this is an actual match where i am truly rooting for one man to win and you said they put on a good match was it a clean victory um
00:15:35
Speaker
Fuck, I'm trying to remember the finish now. I feel like there were some balls punching, but maybe that was in Yano. I know Gato got involved, I don't know, fucking Jay White rolled him up or something.
00:15:50
Speaker
How do you feel about Jay White after this? I don't like him. You still feel the same way? And I heard, I heard, okay, so we'll get to something more with Jay White here in a minute. But later in the night for that, the night of the Moxley Yano match, was that the same night as the Shingo Naito match? Shingo Takagi versus Tetsuya Naito? That would make sense. God damn, I loved that match a whole lot.
00:16:16
Speaker
Yeah, this one started off fun with them kind of being coy. Well, at least Naito trying to be coy and playful with Shingo. And he just wasn't having it. They were trying to do some respect bits. Shingo wasn't having it. So then Naito just started fucking with him. And then they ended up beating the shit out of each other pretty hard for the rest of the match. It really was a match set up by that beginning part. Then they hit each other. Then they did really dangerous shit.
00:16:44
Speaker
then like a little more dangerous shit, and then they just started hitting each other with finishers. And it was just a lot of fun. Because, you know, these apparently these two had never wrestled before. Now they're on the same faction. And it kind of had that thing like, oh, man, if Shingo beats the leader of their team, that's going to create a weird dynamic. God damn it, if Naito didn't, you know, let him know he's still the leader.
G1 Climax Finalists and Other Matches
00:17:11
Speaker
Yeah, this was a good match. Is this a match you would show somebody to sell them on New Japan? I think it was a good New Japan match. I think this was a good example of what I like to see from their guys. A couple guys that are willing to do pretty crazy shit to each other and hit each other very hard. I think this was a good example of a good New Japan match. I would agree with that sentiment.
00:17:35
Speaker
Honestly, probably one of my favorites of the entire G1 so far. I don't know, this one just really, really stuck out to me. You said you, right before we started recording, you said you had watched another match or two before this? Yeah, I did watch a couple more. I watched, this was a weird match up. Zack Sabre Jr. versus Ibushi.
00:17:58
Speaker
What was it weird about this one to you? It's just so weird to me that like, I don't know, like even though Ibushi is a pretty jacked guy, he's not one of the bigger wrestlers physically. So seeing just two guys that are about the same height, one is all muscles and one is just lanky kicking the shit out of each other. There was something really weird just watching their two bodies collide and just thinking.
00:18:23
Speaker
And just thinking, these are two very strange people. Like, if I showed somebody this as their first match, they'd be like, I don't know if I understand wrestling anymore. This is far removed from Hulk Hogan versus Andre the Giant. And at one point, because, you know, Ibushi's got the hurt ankle, so Saber's tying him up and hurting that ankle over and over again.
00:18:44
Speaker
And Ibushi does eventually break free and do a stand-in double knees to Saber. That move looks like it hurts to everyone, but it has never looked more devastating than when it's on a man of that frame. But I like both of these guys, so I'm sure they put on a fun match. Oh no, 100% worth checking out. What did I take a note on here?
00:19:10
Speaker
Oh yeah, fuck. This ended with that, I think that Zack Sabre Jr.'s finisher should be that move where he just stretches their dick out really far and I think that move should just be called ouch my balls and it is the finisher that everyone taps out of 100% of the time.
00:19:27
Speaker
I'm fine with that and it's called ouch my balls. I the name of that move is ouch my balls All right, which I believe is a TV show in that movie idiocracy, but I think that would be a good name for it But say he would think that's a funny name for the finisher like would he approve of you naming this move that if he would look me in the eyes and then punt my head off and
00:19:50
Speaker
Yeah. In the name of the podcast, do it. Zach, though, I like that he always seems like he is trying to win the wrestling match. There's a lot of guys that, you know, they just do the crazy moves and do the finishers, but he like quickly rolls people up and like does roll ups out of nowhere and is clearly just trying to win this match. Do you think there's a smart psychology that you don't see too much of?
00:20:20
Speaker
Gotta have your white claw. I had to let cats out. They figured out a way to open the door. Sorry, lemme...
00:20:30
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people, I mean, especially in New Japan, like you said, with some matches, it feels like, I think, I don't know, I wouldn't say they feel long for the sake of being long, but maybe in like some very spot-fest matches, you're like, well, they definitely could have just tried to win after that, but they just kept doing flips. Zack Sabre Jr. doesn't do that, and I appreciate that, and all of his hits look hard, and everything looks like it makes sense. I feel like Jim Cornette would love Zack Sabre Jr.
00:21:00
Speaker
I'm glad that's a point of reference when you feel like this is an old school wrestling guy. Jim Cornette would totally be into that. He would watch this match and be like, I don't always care for that fucking Abushi, but God damn it, Zack Sabre Jr. always tries to roll him up and get that pin. And that's important. He's a legitimate athlete. He's legitimate. He's trying to win a fucking match. That's what the perps professional wrestling is supposed to be, God damn it. And then he throws some shit, throws some shit and has a sprite.
00:21:30
Speaker
So. And Garrett has a white claw. Garrett's gonna have a second white claw. I got a raspberry down by my feet. Oh my god. I also watched Okada versus Sonata. Tell me about it. There is not a more overdue than Sonata right now. Why is that? What happened? So now I'm starting to hear rumors that WWE has interest in Sonata, even though it's... I don't know if this is just with me.
00:21:57
Speaker
I don't feel, he doesn't connect with me very much, but I appreciate that he is very over over there. Does it make you smile when there's somebody that like, you're not necessarily into them, but you can see the crowd going ape shit and you go, ah, that's wrestling for you. Exactly. Like, it doesn't have to be your personal favorite for you to acknowledge that it's working.
00:22:20
Speaker
And it's a guy that, like, he's done nothing wrong, so I'm not mad that he's over. And it's not like he's... I don't know, it- Honestly, it's just kinda like when Dolph Ziggler's super over in the mi- No, it isn't, cause Ziggler loses. It's not a win.
00:22:34
Speaker
Nevermind, fucking Sonata's the shit. And I guess WWE might be looking to sign him. And what I'm hearing is that New Japan started giving him this push maybe to try and sway him the other way. But would it have been this push that just got him super fucking over? He no joke got more cheers than Okada.
00:22:56
Speaker
really they read shoes was kind of balancing the chance and then eventually he went higher up with Okada or with Sonata's showing like yeah, he's it's probably like 60 40 right now Wow
00:23:12
Speaker
I mean for him for real like that guy is crazy over and I don't know if you were him if I was new Japan I would try and keep that guy there because you clearly have a hometown guy that is I mean if he's getting that kind of cheer over Okada what the fuck and it's been that way all the entire time like when we saw him fight Tanahashi it was still kind of split
00:23:38
Speaker
so we are going to be getting more i guess you know the podcast is going to be dropping tomorrow from when we're recording this so there's going to be more new japan results rolling in as this episode is released so we're getting towards the end of this thing aren't we well so yeah we are right now the uh a block it has come down to two people it is either going to be okada or abushi
00:24:03
Speaker
It's come down to them fighting each other in the last A block matchup or yeah, A block matchup and winner take all. Okada's at 14 points, Ibushi's at 12. So I had to actually had to call John and ask like, what are the rules here? So it turns out if you do end up on a tie, it's whoever defeats
00:24:24
Speaker
the other person. So since they come down to facing each other, even though they would be tied in points since Ibushi would beat Okada, that would take him to the finals. Oh wow. So that's a that's a big fucking deal that's gonna happen I guess technically today. Uh no that's actually so there's still two rounds left in the B block.
00:24:46
Speaker
And tonight is going to wait on that. Yeah. Yeah. So we have one more B block and then we'll have that one. What like this weekend, I believe. New Japan show scheduling ruins my fucking brain. Nothing about it makes sense. So tonight we're getting Ishi versus Shingo, Moxley versus Godo, Jay White versus Juice, Tai Chi versus Toro Yano and Jeff Cobb versus Naito.
00:25:16
Speaker
But is there a clear cut outcome kind of in the B block right now? Well, there kind of is because there is supposedly a bus ad that somebody captured a picture of in Japan that tells the ending. Should we say that? I mean, you know, say it and then we'll just tell people right now, if you don't want to hear it, skip ahead like two minutes.
00:25:43
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say it. So here's your chance. There's going to be a spoiler alert. Skip ahead if you don't want to hear it. So supposedly the bus ad is showing the finals of a bushy versus Jay White. Fucking really? Yeah.
00:26:02
Speaker
What if, what if, now hear me out. Really? What if Jay White wins and we see those two fight again, but this time in the Tokyo Dome and no one gives a shit a second time. They wouldn't do that, right? Really? What am I not getting here? Unless they're going with Koto Obushide for this whole thing.
00:26:27
Speaker
Which you were saying since the beginning, right? Yeah, I'm fine with that. I mean, that's that's what I would prefer to see happen. I think that's the story. But yeah, that is hopefully that's what I'm saying. Well, we'll stop talking about it now because if people fast forward, we don't want to. Well, you get it. And for those just tuning in, wow, it's a real zinger.
00:26:48
Speaker
You're not gonna believe what the spoiler is. Maybe. But yeah, that was the spoiler. I don't know. That's kind of weird. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. You know, I trust them. They'll do something good. Speaking of things getting spoiled.
SummerSlam Anticipations
00:27:04
Speaker
You know, a few weeks back, I thought I got all the Bill Goldberg shit out of my fucking system, but I once again was wrong. This is the most excited I've been for a Bill Goldberg match in years.
00:27:16
Speaker
You are so full of shit. No, I'm not, Derek. Have you ever seen this matchup? This is a hot, fresh matchup. Garrett, don't provoke me. I'm gonna blow up. Look, I get it. I guess the positive spin on this is if you could take the Derek Halpin box of shit he doesn't care about and quarantine it in like one segment, this is it. This is fucking it, man.
00:27:43
Speaker
you've got Dolph Ziggler taking on Bill Goldberg at SummerSlam. And a week ago, you didn't think this was the thing because it was supposed to be the Miz versus Dolph Ziggler, which we've seen a lot. And it's surprise, guess what you're getting instead? Oh, you know how we gave Undertaker a redemption match at Extreme Rules with Undertaker as a tag team so he could look good in a wrestling ring again and make you forget about that Saudi Arabia shit? No.
00:28:09
Speaker
We're gonna give Goldberg another chance too. Why is there so, yeah, pop open that fucking white claw. Why is there so much loyalty to this particular WCW motherfucker? Dude, it's SummerSlam. It's the biggest party of the summer. Everybody's gonna be the- I hate it. I hate it that you're saying that. It's the biggest party of the summer. And so Bill has to be invited, right? That's the way it is. And hey, what if Dolph Ziggler wins?
00:28:38
Speaker
I will be so pissed. I think that's the only thing that would ruin it even more for me. Is if Ziegler, if they finally, because right now it's basically one guy that pisses you off and one guy you don't give a shit about having a fight. I am just excited because I know we're all gonna be on pens and needles waiting to hear your reaction to this match. I may film my reaction to this match.
00:29:05
Speaker
Can we maybe like, I don't know. We could just record your reaction to this match. I could call you up during summer slam and we could just sit here and watch it. That said.
00:29:20
Speaker
I'm actually looking forward to summer slam this weekend. There's a lot. I mean, again, we've talked about this before. It sounds like it's going to be a long fucking pay-per-view. I'm hearing six hours again. Hell yeah, man. It's the big, the biggest, longest party. It's the biggest party of the summer. Yeah. Beat that into the fucking ground. There is stuff on this show that I am excited to watch.
00:29:42
Speaker
hit me with you okay so I'm for obvious reasons I'm kind of excited to see how Bray Wyatt's new character the Fiend plays out in a ring so I'm kind of looking forward to the match with him and Finn Valor obviously I'm looking forward to seeing
00:30:00
Speaker
if the Kevin Owens Magic and Shane McMahon is gonna be a fight, a wrestling match, or a squash. If Shane's gonna get the shit beaten out of him, we'll see. And, uh... I'm calling it. Shane wins, Goldberg loses. That would be a disaster. I'll be meeting back here this time next week to air my grievances. I'm sorry, I'm still thinking about... What do you think Dolph Ziggler's reaction was when he found out he was fighting Goldberg?
00:30:31
Speaker
I bet he was flattered. I bet he was flattered, but they thought he was famous. I'm sorry. Isn't he going around the country doing stand up comedy? Yes. Go do more of that. Please don't tell him to do that. Why? He'd be out of my hair at that. That's what he's doing. Would you go see Goldberg do stand up? Oh, my God. Yes. In a heartbeat.
00:30:57
Speaker
just to see one thing that he sucks at even more than pro wrestling. Shortest set you've ever seen in your life. He came in with three punch lines, but no setups. God damn. I actually am looking forward to the Natalia Becky Lynch match. I think that'll be a fun wrestling match, especially now that it's a submission match. Oh, really?
00:31:25
Speaker
Yeah. Have they actually had a good build to it? I feel like they have. They're also doing, for more nostalgia, it didn't get a good reaction on SmackDown this week, the segment anyway, but they're doing Trish Stratus versus Charlotte Flair.
00:31:41
Speaker
out of fucking nowhere they're doing that and the Goldberg match I feel like those got like two weeks build I actually since they've started bringing back Trish Stratus I feel like I've enjoyed everything she's done so oh so have I to me this is a match this is kind of this is actually a dream match they're providing us
00:32:01
Speaker
It is. It was just weird because that was a segment they opened SmackDown with this week. It seemed like the crowd was either miked improperly or they weren't into it. And it was weird because I agree. Like I was big Trish fan back in the day and I'm glad that she's coming back to do these like fantasy match ups with some of the younger talent and she's getting her whole one more match deal and it's with Charlotte and that seems like a perfect fit.
00:32:26
Speaker
And yeah, I am looking forward to that. I was just weirded out that I feel like some people aren't into it. So what are the main events on this show?
00:32:36
Speaker
I'm hoping it's Kofi Kingston versus Randy Orton. They've done a good job of, at least with the packaged videos that they've had, telling the story because they've got history going back almost a decade. Randy comes out with the microphone and just like, I'm going to come out here and beat your fucking indie guy again. And they're like, this is Kofi this time. He's a WWE guy. And he's like, ah shit, I've been repeating the same thing. Let me, I'm sorry. Let me get back into it.
00:33:06
Speaker
You trying to be funny and take shots at Randy in the middle of this? Is right now the wrong time to take shots at Randy? I'm not saying it's the wrong time. I thought you had warmed up to him recently or something. Yeah, I think I did a while back. I'm just busting balls. I'm going to watch the show and have fun. Of course, we're getting Seth Rollins versus Brock Lesnar. And Seth promised on Raw that he was going to win the Universal title back. Do you give a shit, Garrett? I hope that Lesnar beats him.
00:33:34
Speaker
See, this is where we're at, people. This is the current state of WWE in the summer of 2019. People who, four months ago, wanted Brock Lesnar off the face of the earth, are now hoping that he retains the title over Seth Rollins. See, all I needed was a little break from Brock. I think I got tired of seeing him every week, and now that he had a couple months off and hasn't been around as much, I feel like maybe he's really learned something.
00:34:02
Speaker
It really is his title, Garrett. He's on his third reign as universal champion. And it's, you know, he has had some pretty hardy reigns. Hardy. Hardy. Uh, I guess also on this, hey, hey. Congratulations to Nikki Cross and Alexa Bliss. Women's tag team champions in WWE. So they beat the Iconics? Did the Iconics still have it? Yeah. Had they defended it a bunch?
00:34:32
Speaker
No, not really. WWE has, unfortunately, made those titles an afterthought, made them a symbolic gesture towards the women, and really haven't done as much with them as they could. And that's sad.
00:34:47
Speaker
Bayley and Ember Moon, they get a title match. We get Ricochet versus AJ Styles again. I feel like Ricochet versus AJ Styles, you know, once again. You go for that every time? Cautiously optimistic because it's WWE, but those two at a summer slam, Derek, the biggest party of the summer.
00:35:08
Speaker
Beat it to death, why don't you? Have you checked out WWE on Twitter? Sorry. Yeah, but those two have the potential to do literally anything. Yeah, I'm never gonna say no to a Ricochet AJ Styles match. It just, that seems like two guys that could fight forever and give me a different match every time and it'd just be fun as hell to see. So yeah, tuned into that in a heartbeat.
00:35:37
Speaker
Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. I guess it's hard when you're paying the $9.99 a month for a fucking WWE network. I mean, how much can you complain about whatever they're giving you?
00:35:48
Speaker
Like, what are you going to say? Like, it seems like a good card. This is what's funny for me with my 999. They recently took away my ability to use my Apple TV to watch it because my Apple TV is too old. And, you know, I pretty much watch all of my wrestling on a laptop anyway, but I had it's almost like I have some block in my brain where WWE will now not let me watch it on my television. So I'm like, well, I'm not going to
00:36:17
Speaker
You don't get laptop privileges. All these other people get laptop privileges because they aren't big enough yet for me to watch them on there. You are. Why are you doing this to me? So basically you're punishing WWE because you're like, you guys are supposed to be mainstreaming on my television. On the other day, I really wanted to watch NXT UK and see what Walter's up to because we haven't talked about Walter in a couple of weeks. And I'll be honest with you, I miss him.
00:36:44
Speaker
I thought this recently too when I saw a picture of his. Hello darkness, my old friend. Walter, just hasn't, I don't know. I don't watch NXT UK. I'll occasionally watch NXT, but I think because it's on at a weird time, I don't catch it the way I should.
AEW's Impact on Wrestling
00:37:06
Speaker
Hey, we need to discuss this. So AEW is gonna be on on Wednesday nights now.
00:37:13
Speaker
Yes. What the fuck are we going to do? We're not going to brought this up to you recently, actually. So. Do we move to Friday? We may have to move to Friday because obviously that's going to be in our regular rotation review. We're not going to record the podcast while it's happening. We could record it at night after it's over. We could, in theory.
00:37:38
Speaker
But then I want to go into the details. I will be getting a new form of employment soon. So that may be a possibility. Yay. So I may be able to record a little bit later than I normally do, but that'll also mean that you have to stay up later editing. And that's fine with me because I love our listeners enough that I will put myself through that. You hear that? That's called
00:38:06
Speaker
either love or a guilt trip.
00:38:25
Speaker
Yes. Like I, it's, I don't feel like we talk about enough on here, how excited I am to have a completely different wrestling promotion on a major network in a prime time slot with people I know on it. I had to say all of those things specifically, because I feel like if I left out one of those details, somebody who'd been like, well, you could have watched TNA.
00:38:48
Speaker
You could've watched that or you could've watched it. And here's the deal. I don't like putting in a ton of effort to have to watch pro wrestling. Laptop, occasionally to catch up on some New Japan about as far as I'll go. So AEW being on TNT on Wednesdays,
00:39:07
Speaker
it's gonna feel like I know people are gonna hate this and roll their eyes at it it feels like a spiritual successor to WCW to me even though it's a completely different thing it's the idea that there's another brand in a primetime slot
00:39:23
Speaker
Like, I'm so craving that right now. Like, I'm hungry for it. And we're like, what? We're just a little under two months away? But not just that it's another wrestling show, but it is these guys that we have been talking about since the beginning of this podcast and in our regular lives prior to this podcast. You know, just getting to watch these guys grow and get to the point that they are,
00:40:01
Speaker
When WCW went away, yes, there have been, you know, TNA impact, there has been Ring of Honor, there's been New Japan, there's been, there's been other wrestling for you to watch, but there's something significant to me about the idea of it being evening and your days over with and you're relaxing at home and you have pro wrestling programming on your television as you're enjoying your night.
00:40:16
Speaker
There's a lot invested in this right now.
00:40:27
Speaker
And the idea that there will be a non WWE promotion in that time slot is exciting as hell to me. And just goddamn, I'm excited to see my favorite wrestlers on TV. Yeah.
00:40:45
Speaker
It's just, I don't have a regular TV show that I tune in weekly for. So even just having something that I know, I mean, I'm going to say for at least the first year, regardless of how good it is, I don't see myself not tuning in every week. Oh yeah.
00:41:01
Speaker
Yeah, it's like I said, I can't stress enough how excited I am for AEW to get started. Got all out here in a couple weeks, but we got to talk about something that just happened this past weekend to you, my friend, because you are just racking up frequent flyer miles like a motherfucker.
Bar Wrestling Experience
00:41:22
Speaker
took another trip to LA this past weekend to visit some friends, to watch some Hobbs and Shaw, to see some bar wrestling. You've got stories, we wanna hear them. Lay it on me, brother. I had never gotten to go to a bar wrestling show. They literally had the first one the month that I moved away. So I never got to make it out to Baldwin Park for a single one of Joey Ryan's bar wrestling shows. This was bar wrestling number 41 and Out Come the Wolves.
00:41:53
Speaker
Goddamn, this was a fun promotion. I'd also heard from- I don't know who I had heard this from, but I heard it wasn't in a great neighborhood. It was absolutely fine. I feel like I get told that a lot about neighborhoods. Who's afraid of these neighborhoods? Who's-
00:42:07
Speaker
Do you just have different standards for what a bad neighborhood is than everybody else and they're building up how shitty it is? Maybe. Not just neighborhoods, but I guess towns too. I've definitely been to places that I've been afraid to be, but this wasn't one of them. I felt fine. We're in the parking lot of an American Legion Hall. It's not American Legion Hall post 308 in Reseda, California. I can't tell you what this one is.
00:42:32
Speaker
But goddamn, it was one of the hottest shows I've ever been to, and that includes every single PWG show. Which always sounded like they were pretty fucking hot. And not like as in like the action was so exciting. No, temperature wise. Temperature wise, I had never seen anyone this sweaty in my life. I went with, who was with me? West Coast correspondent, John, Luke, Billy,
00:42:57
Speaker
My friend Kelly and Blair went, which it was both of their first indie wrestling shows. And they both plan on attending the next one. So if you're wondering, is bar wrestling a good way to... Is it a good gateway drug into pro wrestling? Absolutely. It's set up more like Southern Underground Pro is, where it's just a ring in the middle of a room, no seats. But luckily, the ring is elevated enough that you have a better vantage point.
00:43:25
Speaker
Well, tell us about the show. What was the what was the environment like beyond the temperature and the elevated ring? I think Joey Ryan created a pretty good atmosphere of people that just, you know, I think he's described it as he wanted this to feel like a party that had wrestling at it.
00:43:46
Speaker
Is that what it felt like? It was yes. A really, really hot party with wrestling. But he also said something. You said something about the air conditioning that I thought was interesting. What did I what did I say about? Oh, wait, what did I say? Was this where you said that the air conditioning was kicking on?
00:44:09
Speaker
for some short periods? Oh yeah, at the end of a match, the air conditioner would kick on for 60 seconds at a time. And then it would just turn back on. They had air conditioning. And also, I need to say this, I got to see my old pals, Matt, Mike, and Kelly, who Kelly wanted me to point out that when we talked about double or nothing, I said Matt, Mike, and Kelly were all drunk. And she did take a bit of offense to that.
00:44:36
Speaker
because I didn't really specify... Kelly is almost their wrangler. She keeps her wits about her to wrangle those two around. And I do want to put it out there, Kelly was not intoxicated at double or nothing.
00:44:52
Speaker
so she wasn't but the other two were the other two were but yeah and none of them had been drinking this night which caught me off guard I think because one it's on a Thursday night to a lot of heat but while we're watching one of the matches at one point I just hear Matt say
00:45:08
Speaker
What does he just said like? Get my back and I look over and he said I'm going in watch my back He went over and found the thermostat and was trying to turn the air conditioning on for the entire room and it had a lock on it I believe so he but he did try and do a good deed that was probably the best deed I've seen him try and do at a wrestling show
00:45:31
Speaker
wouldn't do that for Meltzer would he? I know Meltzer wasn't there so he's gonna turn that air on for all of us and at one point during this show as well I know we haven't gotten to any matches but Matt points over and he just said hey you got to take a look at something this is an important part of bar wrestling I said okay and he's like see those two it's like holy shit and it was two like Marco stunt-sized people
00:45:53
Speaker
not like technic, you know, just short people, not little people, but like short people. And they were really making out, like making out real good.
00:46:03
Speaker
like real sexy making out. And it was so hot. And you're just standing there in front of a bunch of people. And he said, they do this every single show. These two just make out. And then I looked away for a second. He says, no, no, look back. She's chewing on his tits. And I said, what? And I peek back around and this girl is chewing on this man's tits.
00:46:30
Speaker
And that's just part of the experience. Hey, Derek, it's a party with wrestling at it, man. Clearly. I wasn't there, but I can imagine. Some would even say the party of the summer.
00:46:43
Speaker
but not the biggest party of the summer. Let's be clear. Uh, one thing, one thing Joey does with these shows that I think a lot of people really appreciate is he actually puts local LA talent on the shows. That was never really, like even though PWG is associated with Southern California, there are very few SoCal guys on the PWG roster.
00:47:08
Speaker
Like, they bring people in from all over the world. Exactly. Like, the Young Bucks were so Cal, but them and Brody King were really it. So, Joey Ryan's starting a show where, yeah, he's bringing in a lot of big indie guys, but he is also kind of spotlighting some of the actual Southern California pro wrestling talent, which I really appreciated. And there were a few guys that were over as fuck. There's this guy, Andy Brown, I guess, downtown Andy Brown, downtown Andy Brown. People love saying that.
00:47:40
Speaker
Such an old-school wrestling name. But yeah, the opening match just spotlighted a bunch of local indie guys that were all really good. It was a really good opener, just kind of an eight-man, you know, fun match. The second one, Lucisaurus versus Brandon Cutler.
00:47:58
Speaker
Was Luchasaurus on point? Getting to stand next to Luchasaurus was very exciting. That guy's big. It's fun to stand next to a giant wrestler sometimes. You lean over and whisper like you're definitely going to have an action figure soon.
00:48:20
Speaker
You know who's a toy of those two small people chewing on each other's tits. See now that is the toy. What is that? Like why was that lady nibbling on his nips?
00:48:32
Speaker
Some people are into that, don't judge. And it was so awesome that two people that were like the exact same height found each other and are like passionately in love. And have no problem expressing that in public. On a schedule. A good tit-choo from the second row of bar wrestling is really where it's at.
00:48:50
Speaker
So go back, tell me more about Luchasaurus. Luchasaurus versus Brandon Cutler. Luchasaurus, obviously over as fuck. I think adults and children love him alike. Brandon Cutler, people seem to have a problem with that guy. Like wrestling problems or actual problems? I think the crowd just seems to not like him. And I don't know if it's that they don't feel like he deserved his AEW contract.
00:49:16
Speaker
or what but there is definitely cause he's a baby face like that was a baby face baby face match no one was a heel but Brandon Cutler was getting a fair amount of booze and uh people screaming not nice stuff at him hmm
00:49:32
Speaker
Is there something we don't know? Well, I mean, you know, he's the Young Bucks guy. Like there he did a lot of stuff for them. And I think he's been wrestling longer than we've been seeing him wrestle. But I could see that. I don't know. It really seems like that is where people are like, why is he going to be on my TV? I didn't ask for this. I don't know. That was kind of the vibe I got. What happened next, man? Ty of Valkyrie versus Ethan Page.
00:50:02
Speaker
Did you feel like you got lucky with this one? This was a fun one. Uh, Ethan Page did a lot of, it was very Andy Kaufman-esque, like just, just old school heel heat, like, saying bad stuff about ladies. And at one point, before they started the match, he said, I may be an asshole, but at least I'm not a woman.
00:50:23
Speaker
Oh shit. He got his ass beat. Yeah. That's what happens. The next one, real hot, it was Doomfly, Delilah Doom, and Eli Everfly, which you saw Eli at our first GCW show.
00:50:39
Speaker
Correct. He was in like a six or eight man match with a lot of flips and shit. Him and his lady friend Delilah Doom, they're dressed up in clothes that look like Nickelodeon colors. Very festive. Then we had P.P. What are Nickelodeon colors? Like bright orange? Like bright orange, like look like they have gack on them. You know, the old school Nickelodeon font. That's awesome.
00:50:58
Speaker
there's it's a oh and they come out to fat lip by some 41 all right you can't be mad at that and then they're not this was so they're going up against pp ray which is peter avilon you may know as the librarian and his buddy ray rosa god damn if pp ray is in your town get your ass out there and see pp ray
00:51:21
Speaker
Why? These two are just grinding all over the crowd and if you hold up a dollar you can stuff a dollar bill into either of their mouths.
00:51:32
Speaker
Damn. And that you can put it down their shorts like they're just they're being real sexy about it and I just think the name PP Ray is hilarious. They were super over. Then they were also fighting Los Luchas, which is basically just two generic looking luchadors. Great. Just look very, you know, generic looking.
00:51:56
Speaker
Great great and then yeah, that's yeah, that's my review great I mean, what do you want me to say? They look they looked the same. I didn't know their names They were just generic luchadors and they were also fighting these two dudes that called themselves Reno scum Which since the show is called outcome the wolves named after a rancid album you just as well have a match with two guys in it that look like they're in the band rancid and
00:52:27
Speaker
But this was one where we're constantly having to move out of the way as guys are being thrown into us. Eli Everfly and Delilah Doom went over crazy shit. Honestly, this is a show where Joey Ryan has straight up said, wins and losses do not matter in bar wrestling. His show is that it's supposed to be a fun party.
00:52:52
Speaker
After that, we had not the biggest party, but it was a pretty big party. Then we had Tyler Bateman versus Tommy Dreamer, which Tyler Bateman is good buddies with our West Coast correspondent, John. Actually, Tyler Bateman starred in a short horror film he made. Really? Yeah. And Tyler Bateman let him know beforehand that he was planning on dressing up as Raven and doing the entire match as Raven.
00:53:20
Speaker
And that's what happened? That's what happened. I will say this. Okay, so batch was fun. You know, they hit each other in the head with like cookie sheets and stuff. It was a little more hardcore than the other matches. But after it was over, cause Harley race had just died that day.
00:53:37
Speaker
And so after the match was over, Tommy Dreamer got a microphone to cut a promo about it. And it wouldn't be a wrestling show with Matt if Matt didn't yell something at somebody. And Tommy Dreamer was clearly about to go into a much longer speech than any of us wanted in a room this hot. And Matt just shouts, too hot to talk, move on. Really? He did.
00:54:05
Speaker
What a fucking heel. I don't think Matt would disagree with you that he's a bit of a heel, but I laughed so hard because everybody, everybody just looks like a faucet. We all look like Samoa Joe in Saudi Arabia in that building. That will forever be the hottest you could possibly be. I'm as hot as Samoa Joe in Saudi Arabia.
00:54:30
Speaker
Do you think that's a story that like two years from now, Tommy Dreamo will remember? No, I don't think he will, but I think Samoa Joe will always remember how hot it was in us in Saudi Arabia. You don't think if somebody says, do you remember the day that Harley Race passed and you were going to make a speech at bar wrestling and somebody told you that it was too hot to talk? Too hot to talk. Move on.
00:54:52
Speaker
Did he? No, he finished. Oh, okay. Okay, this is where some issues came. The main event, Brian Cage, Scott Steiner versus Joey Ryan and Orange Cassidy. A dream match, a main event anywhere in the world. You giggle after this. So Cage comes out wearing Scott Steiner's headdress. Steiner comes out wearing the headdress. The other two come out. Steiner starts cutting a promo.
00:55:22
Speaker
And Steiner uses the F-word. Oh, that F-word. The F-word that you don't say. A homophobic slur F-word. And the whole crowd kind of groaned. And he started to put the microphone down and he went and he pulled it back up and he goes, what, is that not PC enough for you? And basically we were all collectively like, no.
00:55:50
Speaker
It wasn't. I think he thought we were all pussies after that. And he's like, oh, so this is going to be one of those liberal pussy rooms. And we're like, there have been three matches where dudes have kissed each other before this. We're all very clearly OK with it. And you're the one being a dick.
00:56:07
Speaker
So I don't know if Joey Ryan is going to invite Scott Steiner back to bar wrestling after that. Probably not. Because part of Joey Ryan's thing is the shows are very inclusive. Very fun spots on this though. Joey and Orange Cassidy, I know Candace can never ever be replaced in my heart. But when Orange Cassidy's there, that is truly the world's cutest tag team.
00:56:32
Speaker
What was so adorable about these two as a team? So Joey goes to, you know, oil up his chest as he does before every match and Orange Cassidy looks at him and like pulls out his pockets. So Joey Ryan oiled up both of Orange Cassidy's pockets before he slid his hands down into them.
00:56:52
Speaker
And then just seeing things like Scott or seeing Orange Cassidy walk up to Scott Steiner and offer up a test of strength. Be the one to initiate the test of strength. And then immediately when Scott Steiner goes for his hands, Orange Cassidy just slides him into the pockets and smirks.
00:57:16
Speaker
Scott? I mean, physically, he looked great. He still looks like Scott Steiner. He wrestled in the NWO shirt. But he went to slam Orange Cassidy and basically dropped him on his head. And then he did the same thing to Joey Ryan a little bit later.
00:57:34
Speaker
So he can't go. It didn't feel like it. Like Orange Cassidy and Joey Ryan aren't the two biggest dudes in pro wrestling. And if you're dropping those two on their heads, I don't know who you need to be wrestling anymore, but he had three. While I was in town, Impact had three fucking shows. And you attended nary a one. Not a one, Derek. I mean, I would have if I had time, but this wasn't a wrestling trip. This was a vacation that I went to go see wrestling on.
00:58:04
Speaker
And none of those were the biggest party of the summer, so why would you even bother? No, the biggest party of the summer. To end this, bar wrestling fucking rules. It is a lot of fun. It costs 25 bucks to get in. They do it a couple times a month at, I believe, the High Hat and at the Baldwin Park Legion Hall.
00:58:23
Speaker
I would go to either of them. Like honest to God, for 25 bucks, the talent that you're seeing, I mean, I would pay 25 bucks to see a show just with Orange Cassidy. So when you're getting this many indie guys that you know and like, the show's only two and a half hours long, it doesn't overstay its welcome, 100% I would return to this show. And if you live in Los Angeles and haven't been to bar wrestling, fucking go do it, man.
Hobbs and Shaw Film Review
00:58:48
Speaker
It's a lot of- Just be fair, there's no air conditioning and you cannot say the F word.
00:58:52
Speaker
At the high hat, there is air conditioning. So if you can make it over to one of those, enjoy the cool air, have a cold beer, go say hi to Matt. And also Kelly, I'm so sorry that I said that you were drunk with them. I need everyone to know you're the good one. Garrett, it's my honor to tell you that the main event of this podcast
00:59:21
Speaker
is gonna be you describing your experience watching the film Hobbs and Shaw. Derek, there are few times in a man's life when he gets to feel pure bliss.
00:59:40
Speaker
Maybe the first time that he has sex, maybe. I mean, my first time was awful, so I don't remember it as fondly as I remember Hobson Shaw. But this was it the greatest movie ever made?
00:59:56
Speaker
It might be. Yeah, it might be. I don't want to bury the lead. This movie fucking ruled Derek. This movie was everything I wanted it to be and more. I loved it, Derek. I loved it. It was everything. It's the rock being the rock. It is Jason Statham being a funny version of the transporter. His jobs in this movie, Derek, driving cars, doing karate, and that kind of karate he does in the transporter where he's like tying people up with stuff as he kicks. Fuck.
01:00:25
Speaker
Yes, all day. I'm pretty sure it's the number one movie in America right now, right? Probably in the world. It made $180 million worldwide this weekend. It needs to make $400 million more to break even. So you guys need to go out there and see it a whole bunch of times. Because I am ready for this to... It completely takes away from the Fast and Furious franchise. The tone of the movie is completely different.
01:00:52
Speaker
They establish early on that any actor could show up in these movies. You have no idea who's gonna be there. There's cameos I didn't know about. The Rock is doing wrestling moves the whole fucking time. Roman Reigns, not a single line, but you better believe that motherfucker hit a spear. And I popped so hard when he speared a dude. Because you remember how awesome it was when he saved the Undertaker from Drew McIntyre with a spear? He does it again, but with The Rock!
01:01:22
Speaker
During the main event. Derek, at one point in this movie, there is a helicopter being held to like a dune buggy thing by a chain. And then the chain breaks. It breaks, Derek. It's in two. So the rock grabs one chain, he grabs one with a helicopter and he grabs one attached to the truck and he fucking holds them together. Cause he's the goddamn rock.
01:01:52
Speaker
I can't, I need to move away from the microphone because I just have to give this review while I yell. This is the first time in the history of this podcast I've heard you yell at the top of your lungs like this this much or at all.
01:02:10
Speaker
No joke, three of my favorite people in the entire world are The Rock, Jason Statham, and Idris Elba. This movie, I love it that they're just like, hey, fuck it, who gives a shit anymore? Idris Elba is part robot. Fuck yeah, fuck yeah, it's a robot with a gun fighting The Rock and Jason Statham. Derek, halfway through the movie, my wife leaned over to me and said, this is the greatest movie I've ever seen in my life.
01:02:41
Speaker
And if I can't convince you to see this, I will send you like, what, $15 in the mail? If you will promise me, you will go see this movie. It is the best movie. That is a hell of a promise to make to our listeners.
01:02:57
Speaker
Yeah, you might, is the movie dumb as shit? Absolutely. Does it in the oat, like first 15 minutes of the movie, the rock jumps off a fucking building to catch a guy who's going down, who never rope on, he just figured he's probably gonna catch up to him. And he did! And remember, hey.
01:03:12
Speaker
Transporter 2. The Rock flips that car off the thing, gets a bomb off the bottom of his car with a hook, and lands it perfectly on the other side of the road. God damn it if he doesn't do it again. Statham. Flippin' cars. Rules don't apply. And guess what? Do you think those two get along, Derek? No. They're working reluctantly, so they're bickering the whole time. And unlike
01:03:32
Speaker
an Expendables movie where you're like, oh, I get all these guys together, but they're not really together. They kind of separate and go on separate journeys. The Rock and Statham are together. So much of this movie. It is perfect. I am no joke fucking drenched in sweat right now because.
01:03:50
Speaker
So basically what we figured out is actually Hobbs and Shaw is the biggest party of the summer. This is the biggest party of the summer. It is so much goddamn fun. It is all of the exposition you need is done in comedy scenes. And then they're just like, hey, why should we show them get into a place? Just boom, they're there now and they're fighting. It is. The movie is like two hours and 15 minutes of action scenes and the Rock and Statham bickering. I'm there for it all day.
01:04:17
Speaker
How does this compare to Crank 2 High Voltage? Nothing will ever beat Crank 2 High Voltage because it is the perfect level of violence, nonsense, and just everything a movie should be. This movie though, as far as like a mainstream action movie goes, this movie is a Saturday morning cartoon come to life. It is what the transfer- or what like the G.I. Joe movie should have been.
01:04:43
Speaker
Did you see that they got the Best Buy Twitter account to interact with us on social media? Oh, I popped so hard when I saw that you were talking to Best Buy on Twitter.
01:04:53
Speaker
Yeah. I was out over the weekend and I caught a Blu-ray copy of the transporter at Best Buy for five bucks and mentioned it on our Twitter account. And of course, Best Buy said something back about how transportation is a very precise business. Oh, guys.
01:05:16
Speaker
Go ahead, Garrett. No, I was gonna say, uh, Luke actually brought up the transporter to me and said that he agreed that the transporter rules. More if you need to go out. If you haven't seen the transporter, take our word for it. This movie rules. Give it a view. And also, go out there and see Hobbs and Shaw. Treat yourself. I watched this movie sober, Derek, and I'm talking this excited about it.
01:05:39
Speaker
Was it everything you wanted it to be? It really was. It's so rare that I get to go to a movie and it just is exactly what I wanted. This movie was that. Derek, I think you would enjoy the shit out of this movie because The Rock is being The Rock in it and you love Statham too. He's doing all the Statham-y things you love. This movie is chef's kiss. I'm gonna go see it again this weekend. We actually tried to-
01:06:04
Speaker
I may go see it just so I can say to people when they ask me, have you seen the Fast and the Furious movies? And I could say, no, but I did see Hobbs and Shaw. Well, you know what you need to know about the Fast and Furious movies to get out of this? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. It's just two buddies saving the world. Garrett, I don't think we can get any higher than that in this episode. Man, I'm sorry. I'm going to have to do a whole lot of editing on that part because I spent the whole time screaming at you guys.
01:06:34
Speaker
That's fair, leave it in
Wrestling Event Plans
01:06:36
Speaker
there. There's a wrestling show coming to Nashville this weekend during SummerSlam. Kevin Nash and Scott Hall are gonna be at it with Jack Swagger. Really? And they're trying to charge me like 30 or 40 bucks for this show. And I'm like, go to hell. But Sunny Kiss is on it and I'd love to see Sunny Kiss live, but also it's $40 and during SummerSlam. Eh, eh. The second biggest party this summer is probably gonna get your attention there.
01:07:08
Speaker
If they told me one time that Capitol Wrestling was the biggest party of the summer, I'd be like, oh really? Well, you know I can watch SummerSlam later.
01:07:21
Speaker
Derek, please, if you find yourself with two hours to spare, please go see Hobbs and Shaw this weekend. I think it would be the best way for you to enter the Fast and Furious world and still get kind of an idea of what kind of action you've been missing out on from volumes five to eight. I may have time on Saturday. We will see. Oh, my God. I will try to work Hobbs and Shaw into my schedule in the near future.
01:07:46
Speaker
If that movie is still out in a theater when I come up there, I would spend a whole day to see that with you. We tried to see it twice while we were in LA, Derek. We got out of a comedy show too late and couldn't see it again.
01:08:01
Speaker
And you were really sad, weren't you? Also, during the comedy show, we went to a UCB show, Ask Cat. It's kind of their big improv show they do there. And the guest monologist that came out to tell a story, his suggestion was trampolines. So naturally, the guy immediately started talking about wrestling, and my wife just looked over at me like, what the fuck, man? Come on.
01:08:26
Speaker
We came here to get away from this shit. Now I have to listen to this guy talk about wrestling and then them do improv about wrestling.
01:08:35
Speaker
Just like my Twitter profile says, wrestling is life, man. Speaking of my Twitter profile, I'm at Halloween Halpin on Twitter. Garrett over here, he's at Gartet. Our Twitter handle for the podcast is at Wrestle Hangout. On Facebook, we're at Wrestle Hangout. And on Instagram, we are at Predetermined Podcast.
01:08:57
Speaker
Also, as we stated earlier, we got an email account. We are Predetermined Podcast at gmail.com. Hit us up on social media. Send us an email. Interact with us. We do fun stuff on social media from time to time, guys. You should check that out. Would you say that this episode was the biggest party of the summer? No. But I do think that you getting obsessively sweaty while talking about Hobbs and Shaw was
01:09:24
Speaker
Pretty fucking entertaining. Just so you know, if anybody needs a picture of what I look like right now, I was sitting here in a New Japan hat and a Carly Rae Jepsen sweatshirt screaming about Hobbs and Shaw to the point that sweat was running down my face. That's a positive review if I've ever heard one. Bar wrestling would approve of that.
01:09:50
Speaker
of you being in that state.