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Lee Hatfield: Hello everybody, welcome to the latest episode of the Paranormal Prism. Tonight I am delighted to have with me Amanda Quill. Amanda is a paranormal investigator.
Lee Hatfield: And she's got a fantastic brand new project that we're going to be talking about. in a little bit but first amanda Thank you for joining me.
Amanda Quill : Thank you for having me.
Lee Hatfield: You're most welcome. And let's not tell anybody that you've hijacked your partner's laptop. Let's not tell anybody that at all.
Amanda Quill : Mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: let's not let's not mention that. at all.
Amanda Quill : <unk>s Fine, as long as you don't mention Bowser.
Lee Hatfield: But he's now like...
Lee Hatfield: Yeah, and we're not allowed to mention Bowser either.
Amanda Quill : yeah
Lee Hatfield: Okay. Let's go. We've got that clear.
Amanda Quill : then
Lee Hatfield: that That's out of the way now.
Amanda Quill : speaking
Lee Hatfield: so Amanda, yeah yes, you like I say, you've got this new project that we're going to be talking about in a little bit. But you've got a long history of... paranormal and paranormal investigators so can we start at the very beginning to how you first got involved with the paranormal, please, and then we'll...
Lee Hatfield: We'll take it from there.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm Well, It basically, for me, it began with ghost stories. I was absolutely obsessed at a young age. And growing up in Scotland, actually, I...
Amanda Quill : had a little bit more I don't know, more kind of like... What is the word? I ran out of words, sorry. Podcast's over.
Amanda Quill : yeah
Lee Hatfield: Okay, bye. Nice having you.
Amanda Quill : but yeah But I i definitely had had a bit of a history with ghost stories and seeing them everywhere and in that kind of storytelling being open. and Whereas in Canada, it's a little bit more it's scarier. We don't talk about the ghost. In Scotland, it was very open. So every place had a ghost. And one of the things that I was taught was if you want to know about the ghost, if you want to learn about the ghost, you have to learn about the history of the place.
Amanda Quill : so That was kind of ingrained in me really, really young. So I i love ghost stories. so i I just. really, really... got into it, let's say. Then when I was probably around seven or eight years old, I was at the library and I was taking out any book I could about ghost specters, anything, phantoms, and reading them up. And I came across a book and it was all about ghost hunting.
Amanda Quill : and i was re looking and looking and looking for the stories and it was all all this talk about like equipment and frequencies and it's just stuff that was just way over my head at this time and and I'm like Where's the ghost stories? I don't, I don't get this. I don't get this. And I remember like this fascination of like, wait a second. this is real like people go out and do this people are out ghost hunting and i was like i remember like write down all these names and
Amanda Quill : And put them in there for when I grow up. Because I thought that I was too young to ghost hunt at that point. like god I was learning the ghost stories, learning the history.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : That's about it. but So i i I put it away. i put i I put it away into my little vault. and And. I didn't actually go on my first ghost hunt until I was about 12.
Amanda Quill : 12 years old. But that's how I got started with just a fascination with the stories and fascination with. Old places, and I know old places doesn't mean haunted, but just the history and the and the storytelling of that, i just I was so drawn to it.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. is
Lee Hatfield: And it. and its You write what you say because yeah I always tell people that I'm from England where the history comes from. And we get. You... were brought up in Scotland.
Lee Hatfield: We have so much history Like, yeah. My my local town. is in the Doomsday book. It's like, yeah. 12 ,000 years ago or whatever.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: it's a yeah Not 12 ,000. 1 ,200 years. Oh, close.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: I was born when the dinosaurs were there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah so... It's a long time ago, whereas...
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: Something like North America, that's only like... two or three hundred like the london underground the subway is older than canada yeah That puts it into perspective a little bit.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm It does.
Lee Hatfield: But.
Amanda Quill : It also too does.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : like Effective question. Yes, Canada is young, but this land is not young. And we've been here for thousands and thousands of years as well.
Lee Hatfield: Correct.
Amanda Quill : So there is this deep history here that we're just kind of learning about because we're not learning about it. We're just. Revisiting, let's say.
Lee Hatfield: Yes. yeah let's go let's keep it like straight and now were revisiting that sounds like a really good one So...
Amanda Quill : Yes.
Lee Hatfield: With the fact that you've got the Cree background.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: How did that influence your ghost hunting? Or did it influence your vote your ghost hunting?
Amanda Quill : It's interesting because I didn't realize it did until... Quite recently, I would say the last three years, it's really kind of.
Amanda Quill : I'm taking a hold that, wow, this really is part of who I am. i never married the two. I always kind of thought that. Ghosts were my thing. That's my kind of thing. Being part of what's called the 60 scoop here in Canada.
Amanda Quill : I didn't know my background. I didn't know my... My kind of heritage. I didn't know my culture at all. So I didn't get that connection. And then, of course, when I got older, a lot of people would say, well, all native people are psychic. And I was like, what?
Amanda Quill : It's just odd kind of things like that are are just kind of belief systems or anything that's haunted is a native burial ground. So beyond that, I just i just thought that those were kind of...
Amanda Quill : you know, loose. statements a little bit lazy and so i just kind of like separated the two and it wasn't until i reconnected with my culture that i saw that like i actually come from a line of people who dream in spirit we walk with spirit and it's it's fascinating to see that i've actually been with my culture this entire time this entire journey doing what my ancestor did and It's it's
Amanda Quill : way too much to talk about in one hour, but it's so fascinating.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah, for sure.
Amanda Quill : It it really is. it's It's kind of cool.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : So a lot of ways it... it really has nothing to do. with my ghost hunting and the same time it has everything to do.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. Cause it, yeah. Cause obviously, yeah. with your With your culture, you're a very... spiritual. Race so to speak And...
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. you believe in spirits. and yeah and that kind of stuff where From England? we don't have the same kind of upbringing. we kind of...
Lee Hatfield: see what's black and white. and kind of move forward it's sort of like yeah people say that they believe in jesus and god and that kind of thing but we don't have the the spirits and their and the the folklore and the history that Bye.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: indigenous peoples do.
Amanda Quill : Mm hmm.
Lee Hatfield: and Yeah, you could go past an old building in England and people go... oh yeah, it's haunted, it's got ghosts, and you go, oh, okay, and you just move on.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: But you guys get more involved with your heritage and your culture than what? We do. from like from England, for example.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm Definitely. I think that there is there is a sacredness and there is something very special about that and something very special about. the the tie and the connection with with stories and culture and and people and the land. I think it's...
Amanda Quill : it's going through an evolution right now where that is the the belief of a lot of people that we're all connected to this and we all have this. But my upbringing wasn't any different than your upbringing. Like I was raised by a white family in Scotland. So maybe there's a little bit difference. I eat more haggis, but other than that.
Amanda Quill : Other than that like that, that was kind of my upbringing as well.
Lee Hatfield: And they speak funny.
Amanda Quill : And then when we look at people in Canada too, there is some restrictions where people weren't allowed to celebrate their culture. They weren't allowed to talk about their culture or share those stories or traditions down.
Amanda Quill : So now we're at a place where there's a lot of healing going on, a lot of reconnection. and And I think that that's that's the important part is. How beautiful is that? And how beautiful is that to share?
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. and and that explains the jet black hair because people that eat haggis Copycat Jepper.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: That's where it's come from. Just just saying.
Amanda Quill : Woo! Okay. Yeah. nice
Lee Hatfield: So. Let's go on to the paranormal bit. so You said that you went on your first investigation when you when you were 12. can you kind of remember that or is it kind of like i went on it but i can't remember much about it
Amanda Quill : yeah I remember it all. and and mostly because of how ridiculous it was because i i had no clue i had no clue what to do i Basically, it was the Brablock Hotel in Paisley, Scotland. And I...
Amanda Quill : basically hid like in like hutches and buffets in a dining room because i knew that they used to for a while i think there was midwifery there and they they would They would tell us stories, but none of the stories really made sense. They said at 9 p .m. someone rings the doorbell and it's a ghost of people who are trying to make sure all the children in are asleep. and i'm like
Amanda Quill : That doesn't make sense. So I started learning the history of the building. And that's when I learned that there are a lot of women were lost in childbirth and a lot of, there was a lot of loss in that room. So I was like, well, maybe there's a connection there. So first I did want to debunk this 9pm. So what I would do is I would go up to our room and go to bed and go to sleep. And then I would sneak out and then go hide in the bushes outside of where the doorbell would be. And then, of course, my uncle would come up, ring the doorbell at the same time. And, you know, you learn a lot about people hiding in bushes.
Lee Hatfield: Bye -bye. we're weird it We Weird.
Amanda Quill : signing on immediately. Yeah. But then I was like, aha, that's not a ghost. I was like, yay.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : So off I go to find my next ghost. So what do I do? I'm like in this room and I didn't know what to do, but I knew how I found or not found the last ghost. So I just hid inside little cabinets and I would hide in in hutches and and just sit there.
Amanda Quill : And I don't know what I thought, like the ghost would come off through and I'd be like,
Lee Hatfield: os
Amanda Quill : Gotcha. But that's...
Lee Hatfield: All right.
Amanda Quill : how I started my ghost hunting career. i've i've hidden in cabinets like at the bottom of stairs because i heard that there was tales that staircase like people would be walking up and down stairs I mean, that's that's... you know, basic, you know, old school quill ghost hunting, but that's how I got started. But I think we all got started somewhere. So I do remember it. I i remember it very well. But the one thing that I took away that really.
Amanda Quill : caught me and I think really got me on. why i do this is my uncle caught me in that it was a dining room at that point And he did catch me trying to catch the.
Amanda Quill : the Googles. And, he took me down to where there was, uh, kind of like a pub or a tavern in the basement of this hotel. And my cousins work there and they're quite a bit older than me.
Amanda Quill : and so he sees like you want to see ghosts come here we come and then so he's bringing me downstairs and i can hear it's getting louder and all the revelry and my cousin comes out and kind of blocks us and he's like, what are you doing? What is she doing down here? She can't be down here. And then my uncle, he said,
Amanda Quill : Well, she she wants to learn about the ghosts. She wants to see the ghosts. So I'm bringing her to see the ghosts. And, and my cousin, the look in his eyes just changed. Everything about his demeanor changed. He's like, what? She's a child. What are you doing? Like, and just.
Amanda Quill : feel. And it was that. fear I was just like oh and this like I I really I believe his name was Fergus but I really like looked up to him and I just thought he was like you know I mean I still do look up to him you know and he's still a burly Scotsman but I just was like And seeing that.
Amanda Quill : change in his demeanor when talking about the ghosts, when talking about what what it was I was looking for as a child and seeing how it can basically bring a grown man down.
Amanda Quill : that fear. That stuck with me. that stuck with me. And I've seen it a few more times in my life. When you just see someone who you think otherwise would be just the strongest, the most bravest, the kind of like what all the pictures of ghost hunters look like.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah, yeah
Lee Hatfield: yeah
Amanda Quill : I just I find that so interesting and so human.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : so that's that's what got me and like that so yeah I do remember my first girlfriend very well because
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. That's it. And it's... It's just interesting that you just said that because it just reminded me because when I was in the UK, I was in the emergency services. So I spent like 13 years as a paramedic.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: And I remember having a The biggest. Like... Biker. on the planet. This guy was huge and he'd broke his leg. It was covered in tattoos, Liam.
Lee Hatfield: Similar to what your arms are. You've got like sleeves, both sides.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: And I went, I'm just going to stick a needle in your hand. And he went, no, no, no, no, don't like needles. I'm like, dude. You're covered in tattoos. Come on. And it just reminded me so of like yeah how a big person can be.
Amanda Quill : who
Lee Hatfield: but it's interesting like that you mentioned like how the bar was downstairs. so Did you actually ever see anything? in that location.
Amanda Quill : No, I didn't. my My cousin ended up being a ghost blocker in that one. So I got sent back to bed and I never got to see anything. And I always wanted to go back. and and investigate again, but it's no longer there. so it's been, it's been taken down, but every so often I go. on like the air pages and and look because there'll be memories of of buildings that are no longer there.
Lee Hatfield: Because I... I've only been in Canada for 13 years.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: But when I was living in England, we had... most haunted, which was like... Yeah, a film crew going around haunted locations, but All it was was... with was literally a scream fest.
Lee Hatfield: you know you got like a couple of girls like as soon as the lights go out the screaming started and you were getting things happening you go come on yeah this is for entertainment purposes only kind of kind of thing.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Amanda Quill : rate.
Lee Hatfield: And it's like... That kind of put me off a little bit. But it wasn't until I came to Canada that I really got involved with it. so When was your... first legitimate paranormal experience.
Amanda Quill : o I would say That I know of I mean probably closer to 13 or 14 and it was in a house that I lived in in Vancouver.
Amanda Quill : And. It was... I mean, I guess the the jury is still out on what ghosts are, but this was definitely Poltergeist. I just said Poltergeist.
Amanda Quill : It's a new joke.
Lee Hatfield: You did, you did.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: All right. I was going to let that go, but you raised the point, so it's like...
Amanda Quill : know Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: call you Call yourself an expert.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: I don't know.
Amanda Quill : There are no experts.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : I'm an expert on poltergeists. I don't think you know anyone else that has studied them as thoroughly as I have.
Lee Hatfield: Yes. You know?
Amanda Quill : Yeah. Yes.
Lee Hatfield: We just created new spirit.
Amanda Quill : a yeah Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : No. but it's kind of it was it was pretty intense there would be A lot of things flying across rooms. There was books like coming off of bookshelves. Crown molding popping right out of the...
Amanda Quill : the ceiling well the walls at the top there was a lot of kind of just odd things that that that if i hadn't seen with my own eyes there's no way i would have believed it. Things coming out of cabinets. Now this was a house. it was it was I was awarded the court at this point.
Amanda Quill : And it was a home. So there was eight of us. females in between the ages of 13 to 16. And we're all going through some sort of.
Amanda Quill : loss, grief, trauma in our lives at that time. So it was a very intense emotional place to be anyway, but then you add that onto it and it was just.
Amanda Quill : It was brutal, but they it was always when we were upset and it always seemed to act out. in ways that protected us. So if staff were coming towards us,
Amanda Quill : books will come flying at them. So things like that. So it was really. Interesting. We named him George because you always name a ghost George. Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : And then we had a woman come and visit us once. And she came in, went through the whole place. And it was me that gave her the little tour. and She got very emotional and she's... She she had lived there when she was younger.
Amanda Quill : And she was telling me stories that were quite emotional. And then right before she left, she looked at me and she said, Have you met him yet? And I was just like. She's just like, this place is haunted.
Amanda Quill : But he's here to protect you. Don't be scared. And I was like. wow What are you talking about? And right before she left, she turned to me and said, we we used to call him George. And I was just like.
Lee Hatfield: wow
Amanda Quill : oh just
Lee Hatfield: I don't know Wow.
Amanda Quill : Yeah, and it was in that home that I actually met one of my key workers. Kate Sully, great woman. And she actually was involved with paranormal investigation.
Amanda Quill : And the minute I walked in the door, she's like, oh, it's like you. She's like, you can feel them under your your feet. You can feel them in the ground. You can. And I was just like, what are you talking about? And she was this a zany lady from Scotland. and And I didn't have much of an accident at that point because in school they really were working on getting rid of it. because They couldn't understand me over here. But she picked up on it right away and she's like, what part of Scotland are you from? And I was like.
Amanda Quill : it Like, it it she just... Yeah, blew my mind.
Lee Hatfield: Wow.
Amanda Quill : But she got me involved with these other two ladies who were the only two paranormal investigators in Vancouver at the time. This is back in the 90s. and And we just went out there and I got brought along.
Amanda Quill : from the age of 17 on to actual houses and home investigations. But they would bring me along when it was younger people or there was children involved because they thought I was. closer to their age, I could relate more.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : but yeah i was it's amazing so i've been doing it ever since
Lee Hatfield: Yeah, and it's amazing that you mentioned... about They... about George. wanting to protect you because One of the... ideas about poltergeist is that It's because of the emotional energy.
Lee Hatfield: of adolescent teenagers.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: So that would kind of fit right into that box of... This is exhibit A.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: And exactly why it happened.
Amanda Quill : Yes. Yes, it it does. And that's some I really go with that thought. And whenever I'm at homes and... it's actually funny it's on this uh on on the tv show one of the producers i work with now he's He quite often he'll say he'd be like. poltergeist hey and he's like it's moon He's like it's Nothing.
Amanda Quill : It just cracks me up because I i was looking at him like, what do you think? He's just like, it's them. And I'm like, what the fuck?
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : you're learning, you're learning. And it's just, he looks so proud of himself, but I'm like, yeah, like that's, that's some definitely. like you know a school of thought when it comes to that and and i definitely believe in that like i To this day, I can. really affect the things around me with my moods or when i when I'm talking activity and stuff. My partner and I lived in a house in...
Amanda Quill : South Carolina, and it would just. if i got frazzled that was called frazzled and it was like is that you or is that the ghost because it was one of the most haunted places i've ever been but Yeah, there was times where I was like, I don't know if that was me because I was like, and then fi you hear something pinging off the wall. So I think. We do.
Amanda Quill : bring a lot of our own.
Lee Hatfield: so
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: would Would you say that... You've got... mediumistic skills or would you say that it's because of your culture. that this is kind of coming to the forefront.
Amanda Quill : that's an interesting question i i i am a psychic medium i i'm clear cognizant i am Don't...
Amanda Quill : generally use that in my investigation until recently. So it's quite interesting that. when I'm now reconnecting with my culture that I'm seeing that a lot of this is In me, though I've been doing this my whole life, but I always kept them side by side. So when I do group readings or when I do readings with people, I do them.
Amanda Quill : on Like that's that side of me. And then my paranormal investigation, I'm very much more into the evidence and the equipment and being. of logic rather than just, oh, I have a hunch about something.
Amanda Quill : And then I'm realizing now that the two can marry. And it's it's an interesting... It's an interesting journey for me because I've never done that before. as on Unsettled Spirits, you kind of see that journey for me. And now my son, he's on the show as well. And he's starting to open up to me about.
Amanda Quill : his stuff and then And that he's actually, he sees, he's c clear clairvoyant and he's clair... I think he's more claircognizant than he knows. Because I think that's a tough one.
Amanda Quill : You just don't know. that You just think you're a know -it -all. or like you know things for you you're like yeah oh no i'm right you're wrong
Lee Hatfield: All right. i know I know everything.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. i know everything but i don't know it till i know it you know like it's
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. Yeah.
Amanda Quill : okay
Lee Hatfield: Yeah, because... it's Because I... Because I spent... all this time in emergency services. You can only deal with facts.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. If you've got... a car accident for example you can only deal with what you see. And so I like. yeah then you have to deduct what.
Lee Hatfield: what happened to the car before, yeah that kind of stuff. And I kind of put that into my paranormal investigating as well. So a lot of my equipment that you can't see that's kind of off camera here.
Lee Hatfield: I have a lot of the... yeah Bye. I'll have a trifield meter. i won't yeah I won't use a K2. But I've got a tri -fill because they use that in construction.
Lee Hatfield: So it's a recognised piece of equipment that you can use for EMF and such like that. And I have. a black mole detector. Black Malkin. create hallucinations.
Lee Hatfield: I have. carbon monoxide detector. ex exactly yeah and all these kind of things so i rule out everything. of a natural phenomena.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: before I go down the road of... well, maybe this is a spooker and maybe we can speak to somebody from the past kind of thing. You have to walk out the logic before you start.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: thinking about and it seems like that you're exactly the same way you don't use your your mediumistic skills.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: because you want to see the facts before You start. concentrating on Is this a spirit or is it something else?
Amanda Quill : Yes. Absolutely. I mean, I definitely believe However, I don't let that believe cloud what what's going on especially when there's families involved or or or anyone i my my biggest thing is just that comfort for people so if we can figure out what it is i mean that's That's our job. It's our job is not to convince anyone that ghosts are real or.
Amanda Quill : or any of that fun stuff. But yes, I definitely I'm with you on the environmental meters. I'm definitely with you when it comes to kind of.
Amanda Quill : finding those data points and and then being able to kind of look at it. logically and and explain what could be happening. Can we recreate it? and If we can't, let's have some fun and figure out what it is.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. 100 % and And. I was speaking to a guy last week and I actually released the episode. tonight. He doesn't like to call himself an investigator.
Lee Hatfield: Because... we're not really in the job to. prove things. But he calls himself a paranormal. experiencer because he wants to experience the paranormal more than anything else if it
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: Israel, because of course we don't know. there's Nothing out there to say it is.
Amanda Quill : Mm -hmm.
Lee Hatfield: but he wants to experience that for himself. And it doesn't matter if...
Amanda Quill : Mm hmm.
Lee Hatfield: I experienced something. and you're stood next door to me and you don't experience it.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: because as far as i'm concerned it's something personal to me that's happened
Amanda Quill : Right.
Lee Hatfield: And. And if you tell me a story that is so far -fetched... I can't call you a liar just because... I didn't experience it when I was at that location.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: And that's the kind of mentality that that I kind of... focus on.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. Yeah, it's the being able to kind of. What is it? no verify it all verify it rather than just be like yep he said it it happened yep Yep.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : Because some of the things that we hear are like completely and utterly wild. And I love that about it. You know, like I, I am. I love when someone says to me, okay, what I'm about to say is going to sound so crazy.
Amanda Quill : And I'm like. Oh, you have no clue.
Amanda Quill : but And then I almost want to give them like a little bit of a medal or a ribbon if it actually is.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : And I'm like. What? I'm like, is it but that that that does.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : It... it's also like it's a responsibility too when you when you hear those things to to be open -minded and to be to be fair to be fair and reasonable for the people because They're terrified.
Amanda Quill : they're uncomfortable they can't go to their friends or their family or their work they can't go to work and say i didn't sleep last night i'm really having a bad day because blah blah blah happened and they're coming to us complete strangers and saying Help.
Amanda Quill : And I think that, you know, it is a responsibility and we owe it to them to do all those things and to look at all the different things of what it could be. Yeah, but I...
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : I do. I used to always struggle with the scientific and pseudoscience and this and that. And I would get wrapped up in that, like, don't call me this or don't say this or don't don't say that until I realized that that's why we're not moving forward.
Amanda Quill : is because we're not. getting over that like it's not a science that's just the way it is we're trying to do it scientifically but until we actually all agree that
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : Nobody knows what the hell they're doing. I mean, we all do know what we're doing. specifically but like you said my experiences aren't your experiences your experiences aren't mine it's all about perspective and it's all about actually bouncing this stuff off and bringing other people in and you know it's it's really hard to do that when we're just trying to prove ourselves rather than you know believing, believing each other the way that we believe our clients.
Lee Hatfield: That's it. And at the end of the day, if you can prove to somebody Like, yeah. Typical example is... emf if you've got
Amanda Quill : Mm hmm.
Lee Hatfield: faulty wiring in your property. If the EMF is that bad, it can cause hallucinations.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: so Even if you... pinpoint exactly what the problem is, remove that from the scenario and everything stops.
Amanda Quill : Mm hmm.
Lee Hatfield: you've still had You've still helped that person.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: regardless of the fact.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: you You have solved... the problem that was making this person Hallucinate. You've taken away the EMF.
Amanda Quill : Hmm.
Lee Hatfield: Job done. Thank you very much. yeah I'm happy I could help you.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Does it mean? Yeah. Just because we didn't find a ghost or a spirit...
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: yeah Yes, we're we're slightly miffed about it. But we've helped.
Amanda Quill : it's free
Lee Hatfield: we've We've helped that person at the end of the day. and That's that's that's the the be all and end all of it.
Amanda Quill : Mm -hmm.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, and that's and it that's what it should be. I mean, it's it's very fun and it's very exciting when you get that capture. But I mean. really at the end of the day it's it's that that's Not where yet where your intention should be.
Lee Hatfield: No. 100%.
Amanda Quill : It's as odd as that sounds. Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. second
Amanda Quill : yeah
Lee Hatfield: Let's start moving towards modern day.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: so I'm hoping I've got this in the correct order. But you created... cold spotters paranormal investigations and events how did that come about
Amanda Quill : That came about that would have been 2012 And it came about for just basically a need to have something different than what was. happening at that time.
Amanda Quill : now in vancouver I... I left Vancouver. So I actually moved and I traveled. I do that quite often. I've lived in all sorts of places all over. But I was over in Montreal for a while. I said I was like not too far from Ottawa.
Amanda Quill : So I was investigating on that side of things. I lived in Edmonton for a while, investigated up there. So I was all over the place. And I was lone wolfing it, as I say, I just did it on my own. But back then, that's how you did it. We didn't have teams, at least over in Vancouver, we didn't. And now I know that there's claims from some teams that we've been established and we've been together since. And I'm like.
Amanda Quill : Now you work. No you weren't. no you weren't and so i left vancouver for a while and i came back and there's There was teams everywhere. And I was just like.
Amanda Quill : Oh my gosh. So then I just went to my regular places that I would go or got ahold of the people that I knew. And they're like, Oh no, no, no. Like we, you know, ever since ghost hunters was on TV and everything. And I was like.
Amanda Quill : well have they if everyone's so interested in it and it's all jumped up now like but so I went to some of these meetups and these reveals and these events to meet people And all I met were people.
Amanda Quill : wearing the same black hoodie with their arms crossed and and when you ask questions they just hand you a piece of paper and tell you to get ahold of them on there, you know? And I was like, whoa, this isn't.
Amanda Quill : I... you know, and then I approached them. They're like, well, if I said, well, I'm an investigator as well, too. they' be Oh, where do you investigate? And I'm like. I've investigated all over North America. and like like what does it matter like what is it like are we do we have resumes here and and then i I get like oh that's cute oh you go to ghost tours or oh that's cute and I got called cute I got pat on the head once I got called cute And I'm like.
Amanda Quill : How long have you been investigating? And this fellow that did that, he'd been investigating for almost a year and a half.
Lee Hatfield: Ooh! Expat.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. This is 2012. I told you I started in the 1993.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : So anyway, but I was, I was like. excuse me like you don't don't even know like i was like very very like put off by it and and i i I applied to be on some of these teams by filling out their little application form.
Amanda Quill : And then I was like. I have to go for interviews and I have to get out there with all this. And I i was just like, This is ridiculous. I'm like, this is ridiculous. And I didn't even send them in. I was like, this is this is garbage. how are anyone is anyone supposed to learn so it's just like well i
Amanda Quill : Well, maybe figure out that like figure something out. Now, there was a meetup group and there was a fellow who had... they contacted them and put on their forum, hey, is there anyone out there that just wants to get together and go to Honda places? And I was just like...
Amanda Quill : And this was months ago. And it's just like, is this group even active? is Is there any interest in starting a new group? And crickets, crickets. So I finally emailed him and I said, did you ever get a response from anyone?
Amanda Quill : And he's like, no. and his name was Calvin and I said to him I'm like well hi I'm Amanda let's meet up and I think we went and had coffee. That's... sunday you know we went and had lunch and we sat there and we discuss what what he wanted i discussed what i wanted we said like what What do we want to...
Amanda Quill : do for like the community. And he was just like, well, maybe make something where people can come out in. do things. like We don't want to go to the same thing and sit there and watch the boring, dry. this is an evp catcher this is my like that blinks, you know, like it was just that bad. And, so we, we did in the, we started cold spotters right then and there.
Amanda Quill : And what we did is we started it. We didn't ask anyone any questions. If they wanted to join, they wanted to learn. You are a cold sweater. And we blew up like so fast, so quick. We have teams.
Amanda Quill : all over the world still. but And it was just based on that. And what we did was community events. We did luncheons every month. We we did all that kind of stuff. But we we kept it.
Amanda Quill : very core when it came to our little group that actually investigates it goes to homes so that's where we had the standards let's say not standards no oh my god that's horrible but That's where i mean like if you were coming off and you're just being a jerk to people you're not coming out to investigations with us.
Lee Hatfield: No.
Amanda Quill : Let's be honest Yeah, if you're starting fights with people.
Lee Hatfield: 100 % yeah.
Amanda Quill : yeahre you're gone, but everyone has the opportunity to join and everybody has the opportunity to come ask questions and learn with us and do that.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : But if you prove yourself to be. not trustworthy, you weren't going to be with us long.
Lee Hatfield: <unk> and
Amanda Quill : So that's kind of how we did it.
Lee Hatfield: Okay, yeah. and I agree with what you're saying. i I was talking to a friend of mine. And I was telling him that. I was doing paranormal investigation and he started laughing. so what are you laughing for? He went, it doesn't exist. On the way.
Lee Hatfield: So you've written a paper on this, have you?
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: He went, what? Oh, wait, you've got evidence to prove that it doesn't exit. exit Exist. He went, well, no. So I says, well. How do you know it does? How do you know it doesn't? I says,
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: Being an investigator doesn't mean that we go out, oh, that was a ghost, that was a ghost, that was a ghost.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: We investigate. what people experience. And if we can find a natural phenomena, like I said a few minutes ago,
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: Doesn't have to be a ghost, doesn't have to be a spirit. But we've resolved the issue. If we can't explain it... And we both know that this... My God, I've been attacked by a... cryptid.
Amanda Quill : i really really didn't the give This is Goku, everybody.
Lee Hatfield: I'm sorry.
Amanda Quill : but
Lee Hatfield: So like.
Amanda Quill : the
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. So like, hi. Cat's fucking like, really?
Amanda Quill : Yeah. we
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : fifty
Lee Hatfield: But it's fine. Yeah. If you can get some evidence that nobody can explain.
Amanda Quill : Mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: And I've got a pile of evidence that people can't explain what it is. And it's fabulous because Okay, if it doesn't exist... Explain this. And they can't. And that's the that's the great thing about it.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. Someone distracted me.
Lee Hatfield: I know, right? It's sort of like... Big furry thing coming across to the screen.
Amanda Quill : That's not fair. Don't go there.
Lee Hatfield: So... Do you have any outstanding stories from... cold spotters.
Amanda Quill : just the cold sweaters in general i think is yeah I'm so proud of my of my team here and and what we've done and the the teams that we that we have like around America. We don't even have other teams in Canada. We have teams in America and the Netherlands. We have a lot of... like activity going on with that But with sexual investigations,
Amanda Quill : Yeah, we've done some really, really cool ones. and I've been so lucky to work with so many different investigators over the years with cold spotters that. That it's...
Amanda Quill : I don't know. like There's so many stories. We go on a trip every, every year. Usually we go on a road trip. I think the coolest one is that we did is we all went to Waverly Hills down in Kentucky.
Amanda Quill : That was really, really cool just to get that many people together and to investigate such a big building like that was really cool. We've done Savannah, Georgia. We've done.
Amanda Quill : more than just around Vancouver, but in Vancouver, um'm i'm I'm really excited for... for what we what we have coming up on Unsettled Spirits. because Now, with my team, like it' we're cold swatters.
Amanda Quill : We got to investigate. few places in New Westminster that are really cool that we hadn't actually had the chance before so it was kind of nice to see a little bit of that access being offered to us but that's been years and years of seeing us active in the community so i think that that's my I don't know. Cool story. It's just, the growth of cold swatters in general.
Amanda Quill : but Hmm. I know you want ghost stuff.
Lee Hatfield: yeah
Lee Hatfield: Well, let's let's come back to that because obviously...
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: Let's talk start talking about unsettled spirits now. because You've been in a few other TV shows, but that's not why we're here. We're here because of your brand new project. unsettled spirits.
Lee Hatfield: Which... And I've got it written down because you sent me the information today.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: It's going to be, its premiere event is September 2nd.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: on the aptn which is the aboriginal people's television network 9pm. Eastern. 6pm. Pacific. So.
Lee Hatfield: Apparently... You're the lead investigator. Amanda Quill. funnily that that we got talking about that so
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: How did Unsettled Spirits come about? and What can we expect in the show?
Amanda Quill : Mmm. Well, it came about... i was extremely extremely extremely lucky to get a call from two wonderful wonderful women about uh Well, if it's not, good we're talking about pronunciation.
Amanda Quill : and yeah But yeah.
Lee Hatfield: What was that again?
Amanda Quill : what in front of me
Lee Hatfield: What's it called again?
Amanda Quill : Sorry, would you like me to say that again?
Lee Hatfield: Yes please, yes.
Amanda Quill : Wapatanak Media. And it was Shirley and and Tanya got a hold of me and just kind of... We're interested in the. in the investigation world and and in the paranormal world and what that looked for.
Amanda Quill : for indigenous teams and being an indigenous investigator, being a lead investigator for. As long as I have, I was extremely lucky that they reached out to me. And I'm working on this project's been.
Amanda Quill : Absolutely. mind -blowingly crazy and cool and like so much growth with me as an investigator as much as I thought that this might hurt the actual investigation side of things. It hasn't because I've actually been given this opportunity to to do things the way that I do them. and i
Amanda Quill : i'm I'm so grateful for that. I'm so excited for it to actually to come out because this is... a tv show yeah we got ghosts yeah and we're like the who who's that all those things yes
Amanda Quill : But it's actually more of a story. we We're actually telling ghost stories and we're telling from the way that we do it. We look at the land. We look at the actual situations that are going on in people's lives. And we talk about that. But we also talk about what's going on in our lives. I don't think it's fair for me to go in and just tell ghost stories. and and show the people that are affected by these ghost stories without being a human myself. So I always bring that kind of element to my investigations. Like I said, I lone wolf a lot, just kind of go out on my own, set my expectations, my intentions down.
Amanda Quill : And my team is like amazing to being with Nathan and Kayla. Both of them are cold spotters. Nathan's my son, so he's been doing this now for quite a few years as well. Yeah, I'm I'm i'm excited!
Amanda Quill : I'm blabbering now because I'm excited.
Lee Hatfield: i would have I would have never guessed that you was excited. So... So...
Amanda Quill : hmm
Lee Hatfield: There's... 13 episodes coming out.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: Did you have any say? in the locations or was that the production team that picked those locations
Amanda Quill : I definitely did have a little bit of say on. on some of them. I I brought them a few different locations that I was interested in doing.
Amanda Quill : And then it really, it really doesn't work for, for. a tv show is this going to be
Amanda Quill : I don't know good TV. and And that was, that was a literally learning thing for me too. Cause it's like, I mean, I can take you to a haunted graveyard all day, but does that make a TV? So it was really good to be able to give them my suggestions and my thoughts and even actual calls that we were getting, give them that. And then they kind of do their, their stuff in the background and then come back. And a lot of times it may have been a suggestion that I gave them or a call that we got.
Amanda Quill : But it was them that kind of surprised me in the end by actually taking it or putting us onto the cases. And further... further investigations that we've done too like i've said oh this would be uh like a bucket list place and they're like sort So it's kind of.
Amanda Quill : Yeah, it's kind of nice. Like they do take into consideration our. our journeys, in our story, where we are in our lives and as investigators, as as family members, as friends.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : and and community members too so Yeah, it's it's really cool. so a little bit of both
Lee Hatfield: Okay, so... I've spoken to TV mediums before.
Amanda Quill : he's
Lee Hatfield: and some of them like to go to these locations 100 % blind. without knowing any of the history about the land or the building whatever or the paranormal activity.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: Did you ever do that within this series or did you always know where you were going?
Amanda Quill : I knew where I was going. A couple times, but. The majority of the times. My shock and oh my gods are are genuine because I didn't know or.
Amanda Quill : I think something that I terrified them with was I... didn didn't know the stories and I didn't know. I'm like, this is a great place. They got great activity. Let's go. And they're like, well, what's the story here? And I'm like, we're going to find out. Let's go. And I think for.
Amanda Quill : TV. that scary. It's scary for them. It's scary for me too. So... It is genuine. It is authentic. We couldn't do this.
Amanda Quill : this series without. without that. And there were times where I was like, come on give me the give me the give me the notes give me the notes like because you do worry you you do worry that you're just gonna completely and utterly like Go.
Amanda Quill : I don't know, left field and let down your clients and let down the people watching and and just kind of really. you know, mess it up. but We didn't. And that was that was so eye opening for me to be confident in what I do. And it's just like.
Amanda Quill : even like the first episode. That one blew me away. Absolutely blew me away. with everything that happens and I can't talk about it yet but I can talk about that it's an episode now so it's yeah
Lee Hatfield: I... that's what That was going to be my next question. Can you talk about any of the episodes?
Amanda Quill : thinking
Lee Hatfield: No.
Amanda Quill : good me know
Lee Hatfield: Okay, moving on.
Amanda Quill : yeah i can talk a little bit about that so we're going to be going to funky winker beans and One thing that you don't see in the show, and I will share this because it was like.
Amanda Quill : It was like. what for me and my phone might go off as soon as I'm done. No, but is I went there. I'd gone there once before.
Amanda Quill : And I got a chance to kind of look around the building. and I went downstairs into the basement. And I turned the corner and I was walking into the basement and it's freaky down there.
Amanda Quill : And. I don't see things that often. like It's not like I'm a ghost there, ghost there. you know, that's not who I am or my abilities.
Lee Hatfield: Can you do that again, please?
Amanda Quill : Yeah. But, yeah, I... I... I I oh my gosh it was it was wild there was this woman this shorter woman and she was wearing like a white nightie And. And.
Amanda Quill : I looked at her and she looked at me. We both looked a little bit surprised. But when she saw me, she just like. her jaw drops. And she was just like, Oh my gosh. And she came running for me, like help.
Amanda Quill : And I was just like. What do I do?
Lee Hatfield: As you do.
Amanda Quill : So why I did whatever goes 100 odds and I ran. No, I'm kidding. But I was just like. But as she runs towards me, she just vanishes. And I was like. No. And I...
Amanda Quill : scuttle upstairs and I was just like oh my gosh yeah we need to we need to film here this is absolutely like they need help And that was my like, I was like, they need help.
Amanda Quill : And the producer says, what happened? And they're like, get her out of here. No more. No more. Not without a camera. like Save it for the camera. But it was.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : Absolutely. So going into that investigation, I was I was already worried. I was already concerned because i knew what i saw i knew it felt real it was It was intense. And now I'm bringing my son and a newer investigator in there as well.
Amanda Quill : And. I haven't told them a thing. So it it was so challenging for me to do that kind of. balancing we did bring another medium in there and i think in the the preview you can see and she's And like she does have as like evidential mediumship. So she she used to be a courtroom.
Lee Hatfield: Oh, yeah.
Amanda Quill : Artist.
Lee Hatfield: Go ahead.
Amanda Quill : Yes.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : And so she
Lee Hatfield: Yep.
Amanda Quill : she draws portraits and she does like on almost like auto, I do automatic writing and she does automatic drawing and what we come up with together. It's so fascinating. and blew my mind away.
Lee Hatfield: So...
Lee Hatfield: The fact that you've got your son with you. Do you still do the... protective Mother. kind of thing. or do you go You've got your skills.
Lee Hatfield: There's a basement. and then just push him down it? Or how how does that kind of... Play out.
Amanda Quill : i have A little gentle nudge.
Lee Hatfield: that
Amanda Quill : Okay. but that is That is something that I didn't realize. was going to be part of my development as a investigator as a lead not only my son like a lot of the Kind of. Hmm.
Amanda Quill : Yeah, we have a very new new investigator and with us as well. and and here I just want to get in there and go go go I forget that not everyone has done this their entire life not everyone is okay with this and there's there are there are some scenes where that I've actually seen.
Amanda Quill : Then I'm like, oh my god, you're gonna show that because I am a little bit like I don't know, not disassociated from it, but that fear level where I can see them all like, I don't know about this. And I'm like, it's great. Turn off the lights. Get in there. Slamming the door closed like, woohoo, go get them. And then I'm like, oh, wait.
Amanda Quill : Like I'm very. calm and cool in these situations. and I, it really was eye -opening for me to be like, okay, maybe be a little bit less.
Amanda Quill : Like, whatever. Go.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : and be you know cognizant of that and having my son. is Yeah, because you do. I start watching him and I noticed that sometimes like he's doing things and there's me in the box for watching him. And it's like,
Amanda Quill : I'm very protective of both Nathan and Kayla and Lily. She's another one of the investigators that we meet along the way in the in the season. I'm very, very protective of them and very. aware of what they're doing or what's happening and their their levels of fear But at the same time, I don't want to take any of the experience away from them.
Amanda Quill : And I don't want to.
Lee Hatfield: makes sense
Amanda Quill : Yeah, i't I don't want to overwhelm them, but I don't want to. Like. completely and utterly shelter them either.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah, that but that makes... Perfect sense.
Amanda Quill : Mm hmm.
Lee Hatfield: And it's... Sort of like going back to... Tamai. previous career. We're the kind of people that get called in an emergency. so everybody's running that way and we're running towards it.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: And you can kind of bring this into the paranormal world as well. Whereas I always laugh that. Can you please, make if there's anybody here, make a noise.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: They get a noise. And then they run.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: And the ghost is kind of like... Dude. You asked me to make a noise. I made a noise for you. And then you left me. So.
Amanda Quill : yeah
Lee Hatfield: Why? what Why did you bother asking me to make a noise when you're not going to bother hanging around?
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Whereas if I hear a noise, if I hear someone... like i'm inquisitive i i want to know what it is because Yeah. You say that you can see... spirit sometimes and you can feel all that kind of stuff.
Lee Hatfield: I want to experience exactly what you're feeling. i want to I want to see what you see. I want to hear what you hear. And I want to feel what you feel. And that's part of your learning. curve.
Lee Hatfield: If you're going to get involved with this,
Amanda Quill : who
Lee Hatfield: You have to... embrace it with open arms and take everything in. Yes, you could be. in locations where you're scared But nine times out of 10.
Lee Hatfield: these spirits won't hurt you
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: Nine times out of ten.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: It's a bit. It's a... But it's a learning curve as well. So if you want to do this. you are going to there are going to be times when you're you're terrified or you're scared because you don't know what's happening.
Lee Hatfield: and you know and that that's kind of Mother figure to. to a professional emergency service, you can kind of relate to it.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Amanda Quill : Yeah. yeah and I think. like you're absolutely right like we go we go running towards it and I think that that. That was the one thing.
Amanda Quill : That I found was my. Like. Maybe, maybe my boundary, especially with Nathan or with myself too. And Kayla is.
Amanda Quill : is the safety of it you know like I always think about that first like we're I would hate to. My cat just attacked me.
Amanda Quill : He's done with this interview. We're done with it. no but
Lee Hatfield: Fine.
Amanda Quill : Yeah, it was paranormal. but I'm probably a a few scratches on my feet now, but, Yeah, was it it's just that boundary of is this safe? Are people going to watch this and then go running into unsafe situations because of what they've seen or or what they, you know.
Amanda Quill : So... Yeah, what we do can be very scary at times. What? we do we We do it with...
Amanda Quill : keeping each other in mind we do it with that kind of connection to Is this safe? Is this stupid? Is this, you know, is this smart? so I'm confident that when I just throw them into a basement dungeon and lock the door behind me and leave them there, that they're going to be fine.
Amanda Quill : Great.
Lee Hatfield: Hopefully.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. just
Lee Hatfield: Yeah, but...
Amanda Quill : Hmm.
Lee Hatfield: And it's right, yeah. It's it's a dynamic risk assessment.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: you know. Let's go into that basement but first let's make sure that the stairs are safe.
Amanda Quill : move
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: Okay.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: it's it's what It's what a natural human being does. But when you start speaking about...
Amanda Quill : Exactly.
Lee Hatfield: the paranormal it's like slightly different because we technically don't know what we're experiencing
Amanda Quill : mm -hmm
Lee Hatfield: you could You can see spirits of people or you can hear spirits of people. But... a lot of people talk about well there may be dark entities that we are unaware of so If these entities do exist, you still... have to be cautious you can't go into a into a building or whatever Guns blazing.
Lee Hatfield: because you don't know what you're going to come into.
Amanda Quill : Well, in good investigators as well, like we discussed at the beginning, like we are doing the environmental checks. We are checking our environment. We've done perimeter checks. We know what we're getting into. We're not just running in there because we feel something dark. and and and let's be honest if we really thought that there was a demon in that back corner we're not running for it No one is.
Amanda Quill : And so when we start seeing that.
Lee Hatfield: I'm good. I'm going to push you.
Lee Hatfield: I'm going to push you there.
Amanda Quill : Yeah, I'm going to push my child into it and close the door and tell him I have matter because I believe in him.
Lee Hatfield: Come on. What? Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: this
Amanda Quill : We definitely are cognizant of of our... each other too because it's also it's not just just me it's it's him too he's got a
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. it's It's funny, we we had a conversation at one of the locations we head to this season.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : and And he was just like. feeling he was feeling it he was just like I realized like, this is what you do. Like you do this all the time. Like, and now we're doing this. together all the time like he'd come up with me like he's been coming out with me since he's 14 but probably i def wasn't taking him to those big intense investigations and we both kind of realized that on the same night like We're in the deep end now.
Amanda Quill : And he was just like. Ooh! You know, he's just like i don't I don't know.
Lee Hatfield: yep mom
Amanda Quill : if I can do this, like there was there is that moment. and And I could just tell in his face that that was there. and and But he was going to be there for me. he was He was there, you know, as much as he may have had that those doubts. And I just remember saying to him, I wouldn't have you here if I didn't think you were going to be safe. I wouldn't have you here if if I thought you were, you know. You're in over your head. You're not. you're He's one of the... most.
Amanda Quill : thoughtful investigators that I've worked with in a long time. And that is rare. Thoughtful investigating is really rare. Like he's thoughtful of spirit. He's thoughtful of everyone in that room with him. He's like beyond just us as the team, he's thoughtful of the crew. He's thoughtful of the people watching he's. He's he's he's he's the one to watch, but watch me too. No, he is very, very...
Amanda Quill : very kind of, centered and strong that way and Kayla too I mean she's just a sponge and she's just learning all of this and from where we started to where we are now with Kayla it's amazing she's just Yeah.
Amanda Quill : she's She's the one running and throwing us in the rooms now.
Lee Hatfield: So am I. So, yeah. I'm sorry but Amanda got pushed into a dungeon. The door was locked. and we never saw her again.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Thanks, Kayla. yeah
Amanda Quill : Yeah, yeah. New season.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : Kayla's the lead.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah. That's it.
Amanda Quill : and Smart.
Lee Hatfield: See you.
Amanda Quill : She's a smart investigator.
Lee Hatfield: So. Overall... not just for this tv show but overall Have you ever been to a location Where you?
Lee Hatfield: definitely did not want to be. Yeah, and or... yeah Is it sort of like there's something bad in there and I don't want to i don't want to tackle it, I'm leaving?
Amanda Quill : Yes. Yes, yes, yes, definitely. Yes, there's only been one. That I left. though. So there's definitely been a few that were like, oh, my God, this is intense. I have dealt with some. Dark.
Amanda Quill : dark stuff, the the kind of energy that physically pains you. that's just it's not natural it's not nice and that's why I always say with all these shows right now going after the demons like Mm -mm.
Amanda Quill : You're not, you're not, you know. you would know you would know. it's Yeah, it's something else. Now, that being said, I've also been in situations that I i went ghost hunting. and met something else or that I I am.
Amanda Quill : basically kind of careful what you ask for kind of situations where you're like okay show yourself and then it shows itself and you're like o you know, and just absolutely frozen in like.
Lee Hatfield: Yeah, yeah
Amanda Quill : OK, you asked for this. You eat like this is, you know, I've had things communicate to me in ways that I've heard about in movies or on podcasts that I'm like.
Amanda Quill : no and then it happens to you and you're like sitting up in bed for like six nights after like what the hell just happened so yes there there's been situations where I
Lee Hatfield: Yeah.
Amanda Quill : I almost stopped doing what I do And I had to. build back up and in And make a a conscious decision if if if this was something I was going to do. and And I did. And I overcame things. But it took me years. It took me years. And one of the biggest things that I will say.
Amanda Quill : is There's a big hairy monster in the... and the force up here in British Columbia that that That's it. It's something else when you experience it.
Lee Hatfield: That sounds cool. When are we going?
Amanda Quill : Whenever I'm free, like I just got out. Finish this podcast.
Lee Hatfield: Go ahead.
Amanda Quill : and
Lee Hatfield: Okay, yeah, I'll jump in the car.
Amanda Quill : It'll do fine how we go. Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: jump in the car start driving take me a few days to get there but i'll be fine
Amanda Quill : Yeah. yeah
Lee Hatfield: So... amanda we are coming towards the end unfortunately but i could talk to you all night
Amanda Quill : me
Lee Hatfield: And I've got so much more to talk about. so You, girl, you're going to have to come back on after this season and then we can talk about the entire season.
Amanda Quill : Mm hmm.
Lee Hatfield: how does that sound does that sound like a great idea But.
Amanda Quill : Yes. Absolutely.
Lee Hatfield: Great. So just remind people. When? Where I'm... They have to watch otherwise. I'll be after them. Go for it.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. so yeah september 2nd on aptn and 18 p .m plus at 9 00 p .m it's going to be our our first one and then we're going to be And that's what for the rest of the.
Amanda Quill : season. Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Excited. So...
Amanda Quill : I'm so excited. I'm excited for everyone to see and to meet everyone. cause I mean, yes, there there's me and Jesse, but there's also... there's also if we each have a team and so you get to meet kayla nathan aisha and brandon
Lee Hatfield: See. I expect a free selfie when... when we meet right sort of like this one's this one's on the house click
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Sorry.
Amanda Quill : the
Lee Hatfield: So... Apart from being excited because you've got this show coming up that we've not mentioned at all in this podcast.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: what else What else is on the agenda for Amanda?
Amanda Quill : I'm going to have a big long nap. My cat needs some attention.
Lee Hatfield: Yes. It's like, mom, mom, come on.
Amanda Quill : yeah Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: Right, get off.
Amanda Quill : Yeah. Well, I got always got things going on. my it's almost Halloween. So how this is the season I'll be out there doing ghost tours. And yeah.
Amanda Quill : So if you're ever in Vancouver, come. come to New Westminster and come take in the ghost of New Westminster.
Lee Hatfield: I will. I will definitely do that.
Amanda Quill : Mm hmm.
Lee Hatfield: but For now Amanda, it's been an absolute pleasure. I've loved talking to you. I'm glad that I managed to get you on.
Amanda Quill : you
Lee Hatfield: before the premiere of the new TV show. Good luck. I hope there's a season two.
Amanda Quill : plan
Lee Hatfield: But for now... Thank you for your time.
Amanda Quill : Yeah.
Lee Hatfield: It's still quite early in... in Vancouver, so time for a beer or two. but Yeah. but Thank you.
Amanda Quill : if
Lee Hatfield: It's been an absolute pleasure. You take care and have a great rest of the evening.
Amanda Quill : Thank you. Thank you very much.
Lee Hatfield: like Take care. Bye -bye.
Amanda Quill : Bye.
