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Podcasting and KDramas: A Conversation with Bring Your Own Popcorn!
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In this episode, Satsunami is joined by the fantastic host of the Bring Your Own Popcorn podcast Aubrey! From podcasting to kdramas, join us as we deep dive into our discussion of these topics.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:17
Speaker
Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of Chatanami.
Challenges in Podcasting
00:00:22
Speaker
My name's Satanami, and joining me today is none other than the fantastic host of the Bring Your Own Popcorn podcast. It is Mixtape, also known as Obry. Obry, welcome to Chatanami.
00:00:35
Speaker
Yay. Hello. Thank you so much for having me on. How are you doing today? Yeah. Overall, I'm doing pretty good. I'm having some carpal tunnel issues with my hand, which is making editing very hard, but luckily my voice is untouched so I can still ramble. Okay. It's always the worst day when you're midway through it and then you get a flow and then you're like, oh no, no I can't. Yes. I know hashtag podcaster problems doesn't do it.
00:01:00
Speaker
For real, yeah. I need my editing hand. How do you get known with your writers in any way? Well, it's normally going well. It's not going well now that I'm having carpal tunnel because I can only edit like one minute at a time and then I have to like take a break and do stretches. But other than that, it usually goes pretty well.
00:01:16
Speaker
Oh, I know. And it's always the long-form episodes, isn't it? Yes.
Origins of Bring Your Own Popcorn
00:01:20
Speaker
So by your name, or rather by your podcast name, Bring Your Own Popcorn, you of course discuss a lot of film-based topics and things which I have to say, first of all, you do an absolutely fantastic job of, can I just say? Oh, thank you. Thanks so much. But I've just got to ask, what was the inspiration behind the name, Bring Your Own Popcorn?
00:01:41
Speaker
I am not, I think it literally just came to me, which is usually how my brain operates when I think of titles, things just pop into my head. Although I will say when I started the podcast, I was working at a movie theater and I've always been quite obsessed with popcorn. Like it's one of my favorite snacks. Although ironically, I can't, I haven't been able to eat popcorn for a year because I also have jaw issues. But
00:02:04
Speaker
I absolutely love popcorn and I was working at a movie theatre and was trying to think of a title for a podcast and literally just came to my head like, oh, bring your own popcorn. That's it. Yeah. No, it is a good name to be fair. Thank you. But out of curiosity, when you were saying that you started the podcast, am I right in saying you started it as far back as 2013? Yes, I started it in 2013, 10 years ago, which is wild. Wow. Yeah.
00:02:32
Speaker
it, yeah. No, it's because I was looking at your feed and everything, and usually when I'm talking to other podcasters and other content creators, streamers and such, a lot of them have come from the 2020s mindset of, because of the lockdowns and everything, they said, oh, we're going to start streaming, we're going to start podcasting, and then usually these shows, myself included, my jokes, started
00:02:56
Speaker
in the 2020s, and that's why. So I was quite surprised
Revival and Evolution During the Pandemic
00:02:59
Speaker
when I was scrolling through just to double check. I was like, 2013? Wow, I can't believe. Yeah, I sort of underwent the quarantine phenomenon in that I boosted my podcast and I started doing more episodes again, because I was kind of on a really weird schedule for a long time. For the first couple of years, I was pretty regular about having a couple episodes a month, and then it went down to one episode a year for many years.
00:03:23
Speaker
And then in 2020, before we knew the pandemic had started, I had decided independently like, Oh, you know what? I think I'm going to start doing my podcast again. That'd be fun. And then of course the pandemic hit, but I realized, Oh, we can still like record remotely. And so I figured out how to do that. And so I've had a comeback of the podcast basically since 2020 and have been doing more regular episodes. Going back to the beginning of the podcast though, what was your inspiration behind starting the podcast?
00:03:51
Speaker
My inspiration in the very beginning was literally just like arrogantly thinking that me and my friends talking about movies was interesting. I remember having a conversation with a friend about a movie and it was just so fun talking with them about the movie like getting into
00:04:07
Speaker
how specific moments made us feel and how we had different experiences of it like he felt one way about one scene and I felt another way and then talking about like why the filmmakers might have decided to do that and other ways they could have done it and all of that was just like so fun for me to talk about and I literally was just like you know what someone else should gear us talking right now because I think this is interesting and I don't know how true that is I mean I do get you know some plays so it seems to be relatively true at least
00:04:35
Speaker
Would you say, though, there's like a difference between the...
The Changing Podcast Landscape
00:04:39
Speaker
and apologies if I'm getting a bit too deep so early on in the episode, but would you say there was a difference between when you started versus podcasting now in terms of the podcast and landscape? Because I have to admit, around 2013, I think I was still in university and everything, and I chaired a podcast and things, but I never really
00:05:00
Speaker
immersed myself in them back then. So I'm just wondering, did you feel as if they were as popular back then as they almost seem just now? No, they weren't. They weren't as popular and people still saw them as this sort of mysterious and difficult thing because people were always shocked to find out that I had a podcast back then. They were like, whoa, like how? Where do you get the money? Like who's producing it? It's like, dude, you can literally just like anyone can do it.
00:05:24
Speaker
Literally anyone can do it. And the reason that I knew that was because one of my best friends and my roommate had a podcast. And so I could see him doing it. And that's what made it easy for me to just be like, Hey, I can do that too. Like you just have to reserve a posting site and pay albeit a significant amount of money I would say per year. And then yeah, that has definitely changed now because a lot of people have realized that. And so I'm very happy that a lot of people are podcasting now because it makes the scene so much more diverse.
00:05:51
Speaker
I would say there's still a lot of, podcasting is still predominantly like a white male field, but it's so much more diverse than when I started because that was I think one of the reasons why people were like, wait, you have a podcast? You? So yeah, there's been a big shift both in people's perceptions of podcasts and who is podcasting.
00:06:11
Speaker
It's definitely interesting to see that as a field of content creation that has certainly evolved over the years, I remember maybe 2013 the big thing was, and don't get me wrong, I know YouTube is still a thing just in case anyone's listening, be like,
00:06:26
Speaker
YouTube's still around, you know, but YouTube used to be the kind of big thing. And then, of course, Twitch slowly grew behind that. And then, as you say, podcasts were still around. And it is amazing to see so many people from different backgrounds being able to have the confidence to just come on and being able to talk. Because would you say it is daunting for a lot of people to see other podcasters and think, oh, my goodness, all of these high profile podcasters, oh, I don't know if I should do that.
00:06:56
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. It is intimidating, or at least I understand how it's intimidating, but it honestly has never felt intimidating to me. I think that's just because I've always been recording stuff. Like I did a fake radio show for no one as a kid, I would just record with my friends into a talk boy or talk man. What were those things called?
00:07:15
Speaker
It was like a handheld recorder where you would record on a cassette tape. And I would do these fake radio shows and even record songs from the radio to make it sound like I was actually DJing. And it wasn't for anyone to listen to. And so I sort of approached podcasting the same way. It's just like, I'm just going to record this. And it so happens that other people can hear it. But I'm not thinking of that a whole lot beyond being conscious of not being offensive.
00:07:39
Speaker
beyond that, I'm still trying to approach it from that same way of just like, we're just doing this for fun and for our own benefit, even if it doesn't need to get famous or big or anything like that, basically.
Misconceptions and Realities of Podcasting
00:07:50
Speaker
Because I think that is the worry, or not worry, sorry, that's the wrong word, but it's this kind of preconception that when you go into content creation nowadays, a lot of people are thinking, oh, it's a get rich quick kind of thing that, oh, you just have to sit down, say something,
00:08:06
Speaker
especially in the world of, because I know you as well, you do Twitch streaming, and I know we'll definitely come on to that because I'm very curious to hear your thoughts about it. But I remember that was how I got my start in 2020. I decided, oh, I'm going to start Twitch streaming because one of my other friends did it. And I thought, oh, I don't know if I'm that confident in doing it. And then it evolved from doing Twitch streaming and then moving on to the podcast because I was very self-conscious about the way I spoke and everything, the way
00:08:34
Speaker
my voice sounded and then this sounds like an advert for podcasting be like, thanks to podcasting, I got the self-confidence I needed. No, it's so true. It's so true, though. Yeah, podcasting gave me a lot of a lot more confidence, too. I agree. It's a really good self-reflection tool. As long as you're not so insecure that when you hear yourself, you want to die. Like if you're that insecure, you got some work to do.
00:08:57
Speaker
But if you're at the in-between point where you listen to yourself and you'd be like, I messed up there, I could have said that better, and instead using that to be like, then I will, next time I will do better. And then that builds confidence from that, at least for me. ALICE Because I feel as if it's a kind of Stockholm Syndrome thing, if you do your own editing and you are just trapped with your own voice for about an hour or so, and you're like, oh my god, I'm just going to have to get through it. Now, I genuinely don't mind my voice, but when I started editing vlogs and then
00:09:26
Speaker
eventually editing the actual podcast. I was like, get through Satsu, get through it, come on, we're going to get through it. And then eventually I did. And that was fine. Exposure therapy. Oh, exactly. It really is, isn't it? Yeah. It's definitely good for self-confidence.
00:09:42
Speaker
I do agree with you. I do think that even if you're doing it for yourself and then moving on, because I know there's quite a few people who use it for their own experiences or they use it as a kind of outlet, which I feel as if is quite a positive thing. Well, yeah, I think so. Can you give me an example of what you mean?
00:10:02
Speaker
So another podcast that I know from Egypt who runs a podcast called Eligible Scribbles, they do this podcast in Arabic where they talk about day-to-day life and basically their own personal experience, not just like in the frame of, for example, if you and I are talking about films, it's not like just our opinion, it's almost like a diary of sorts putting themselves out there, almost like a mini vlog or not a vlog, sorry. I don't know what you would call that. Yeah, an audio diary.
00:10:31
Speaker
I know technical like podcasts would cover it but I don't know if there's like a specific term for that kind of voice diary. Audio diary I think is a term and I'd say most podcasts aren't audio diaries but what you're describing is actually the friend that I mentioned who inspired me to start a podcast
00:10:47
Speaker
That's what his podcast was too. It was just him and one of his good friends would just meet like once a month and recap everything that had happened since the last time they talked to each other and they kept doing it for like 10 years. So it ended up being this like really cool time capsule of where they were in their early twenties and then versus their early thirties.
00:11:06
Speaker
That does sound pretty cool, to be honest. This might sound like a silly question, but do you feel as if there's more pressure when you do a podcast that feels more personal versus if you're projecting your own opinion on something?
00:11:21
Speaker
So, for example, with your friend and my friend's podcast talking about their own feelings, experiences versus, for example, you and I, if we are talking about a particular film and projecting our opinions onto that, do you feel as if there's more stress, if you try to make it more personal?
00:11:37
Speaker
Oh, it's the opposite for me. There's less stress for personal topics and more stress for more nerdy and formal topics, because especially with stuff like movies or anything that has a fandom, there is that awareness of like, okay, yes, people are going to be hearing this and they're going to want me to pronounce the actor's names right. They're going to want me to get the director right. And I'm terrible with names and memory, stuff like that. And I,
00:12:03
Speaker
want to come off as at least somewhat knowledgeable. And if not knowledgeable, at least I want to come across as if I care and not sound like I'm just fucking around and shooting the shit about that. I can sound more casual when it's personal topics, but if I'm talking about something that has a fandom, then I feel more pressure to be more careful and conscientious.
00:12:23
Speaker
I mean, I felt exactly the same way when my friend Adam and I did an episode on the Kdrama Squid Game. Because I learned many languages on the side as a hobby, but Korean is not one of them, which is surprising because I know you and I have a shared interest in Kdramas.
00:12:45
Speaker
I absolutely love them, but I remember rehearsing the name beforehand thinking, I think it's Gi-hun or something, and again, I probably mess that up there, but I'd say it over and over again, and then I would say it in the episode, and I'm listening back to it, and I'm like, that doesn't sound right. And I don't want to give that impression that, oh, I'm just saying it half
00:13:04
Speaker
asked or anything but you know I totally see where you're coming from there is that pressure although we haven't had any backlash yet fortunately you know fingers crossed touch wood yeah there was an episode that my other friend Andrew and I did where we talked about an anime called Sword Art Online and that is quite a relatively controversial anime because it's a starter anime for a lot of people so they have like a deep rooted nostalgia
00:13:32
Speaker
At the same time, there's a lot of very problematic elements to it, which I won't go into in this episode, but the reason it was actually inspired was because Andrew had actually gone on and given his opinion about a certain element of the show and there was a lot of fans that attacked him. I thought that was very surprising because I was like my friend and obviously not just because he's my friend, if you're listening to Andrew.
00:13:57
Speaker
But he's not one of these people that goes out of his way to incite conflict or be like, oh, I think this, and sits back and waits for the hate to come through. It was a genuinely thoughtful response that he gave, and he had all these people attacking him being like, you don't know what you're talking about, this and that. So far we haven't had any hate for that.
00:14:17
Speaker
Yeah, fandoms don't care. Fandoms don't care how polite or mild your comment is. If it disagrees with what they think, yeah, they will go hog wild. After Matt, we haven't experienced it fortunately yet, which is always
Navigating Negativity Online
00:14:32
Speaker
nice. In the end, you see in a podcast, and it's always nice when you have like a very civil discussion, but have you ever had that with your own episodes?
00:14:40
Speaker
I haven't and I think it's probably because my reach isn't huge and just hasn't gotten to the people that would be pissed off by it because it certainly there's many aspects of my podcast that would piss off a certain demographic. Thank God have not seemed to discover me yet.
00:14:56
Speaker
So I haven't gotten any at least public feedback or negative comments like that, but I'm also pretty cautious both in what I say or what I post online under the bring your own popcorn name. I try to be pretty cautious and avoid posting anything that could incite that kind of drama. I also am pretty good about monitoring comments and stuff like that. So I am very generous with the block button.
00:15:20
Speaker
If I see people being really aggressive and attacking other people, then I'll block them. So they don't even get a chance to attack me because they're already blocked. Yeah. It's something that I have to admit, although the industry of podcasting is a very positive community I've found, for the most part, the majority of other podcasters, they're very supportive. They'll try and build you up. They'll retweet and everything. They'll listen to episodes. I think it's fantastic.
00:15:48
Speaker
but like any other fandom or community, there's always the one or two that slip through the cracks. And it is interesting what you were saying there when you were saying you were quite careful about what you post and everything and who you interact with because obviously I'm not naming names or anything, but there have been a few for legal reasons. I'm looking at my Red Panda lawyer in the corner and he's giving me the thumbs up here. But there have been a few over the past
00:16:15
Speaker
year or so that I've seen. I remember I saw them everywhere, all over Twitter and everything. They had a very prominent stance and then because of the way they interacted with others or the way they presented themselves on Twitter, they have just drawn completely negative attention to the podcast and essentially they've just sunk themselves
00:16:35
Speaker
Yeah, it just seems like an issue that obviously I think the majority of podcasts know to conduct themselves in a very civil way, especially if they are representing a quote unquote brand as it were, but it's surprising to see the amount that aren't
00:16:50
Speaker
I mean, I think that comes from what we were saying earlier is that anyone can podcast. You do need money, but yeah, anyone who's got $160 for like a year or maybe some sites are even cheaper. I think some are even free. I think Anchor might be free. So yeah, that's what happens when the doors are open to everyone is there's going to be eventually some people who are like that. I still think it's not a reason to close the doors or make it less accessible, but it's something to be mindful about of like, yeah, anyone can do this. And so inevitably there's going to be some jerks and we just have to
00:17:20
Speaker
as a community, hold hands and work together against the jerks. ALICE No, you're absolutely right, though, because it is such an easy platform for people to get onto. Especially you see celebrities now who are just realizing, oh, podcasts are really easy to get into because all they have to do. They are obviously not in the same level. They've got people who hate it for them and everything, which that's just my dream. I go to sleep at night thinking,
00:17:47
Speaker
Oh, there's an editor waiting for me and then I wake up and I cry, but that's beside the point. They've got teams and everything, and it's exactly what you said, the fight, the podcasting.
Impact of Celebrities and Community Dynamics
00:17:59
Speaker
I believe this as well, that podcasting is for the most part for everyone, but that doesn't give you a free pass, as you said, for being hateful or just
00:18:09
Speaker
a all around horrible person because I have seen a lot of those types of podcasts where they say, oh, I'm unfiltered or, oh, I don't, x, y, z, I'm not this, I'm not that, I'm real, seems to be about the buzzword that they throw around. Yeah, real or raw or like, I say it like it is and what they really mean is like, I say shitty things. Exactly. And you look through their tweets or their podcasts and you're like, oh no,
00:18:35
Speaker
I actually got invited on to one of those podcasts. It was just a random one. Again, I won't name names, but I always remember someone said, oh, hi, we would love to have you on the show and everything. And I was like, oh, wow, that's really cool. And then I went into the profile. I was like, huh. And it was one of these very American-centric, see how it is things. And as a mild man, I just got, I was just like, nah.
00:19:00
Speaker
What about your account? Because your account is a very nice account. Chatsunami has such a sweet community presence on Instagram and Twitter and Discord where you're very kind and like are always reaching out to people and just like spreading positive energy. What about your Twitter made them think, yeah, this person totally fits our vibe.
00:19:20
Speaker
Oh yeah, as I said before, the Red Panda lawyer would have a field day being like, for legal reasons, he did not mean that. He did not mean that. It's a weird one because personally for me, and I know you as well, you're quite positive with your community because what you do with yours is absolutely fantastic.
00:19:38
Speaker
But what I've always tried to do is try to foster a positive community, but I don't want to also foster a community that is like, you know those posters, the famous British keep calm and carry on kind of posters, where it's like,
00:19:55
Speaker
oh things might be bad but you have to keep persevering you know because on the one hand i want it to be a positive environment i don't want people to come to my podcast thinking oh the world's burning and everything and they've had negative podcasts and things like that where i've said oh i don't like this or i don't like
00:20:11
Speaker
that you know in terms of pop culture or things like that but I also don't want people to think that it's like that episode of The Simpsons where Homer has like these clothes bringing these lips up to make him smile all the time and it's like I don't want people to think that's how I'm walking around every day like oh what a beautiful day. There's that danger of toxic positivity as well which I have seen not so much with podcasters but a lot of other content creators like have you ever seen that
00:20:39
Speaker
Yes, absolutely. Toxic positivity is a huge issue and a huge thing that I'm very against because I think that when you push positivity that far, it's not positivity anymore. It's just negativity and exclusion and inaccessibility.
00:20:54
Speaker
because it comes from this place of like, there's some things you can't say, if something's bad, or something feels bad, you can't talk about it. And that's not positive. That's not a warm, welcoming environment. That's an oppressive environment. And I think what you were saying before is like, you like to foster a positive community. And that does include setting boundaries. So like, fostering a positive community doesn't mean like, oh, I'm just always saying nice things to nice people. It means
00:21:20
Speaker
setting boundaries with mean people, whether that means not engaging with them, not talking to them, or blocking them, or whatever. Just making a choice to engage with certain people and not others, as opposed to just indiscriminately working with and supporting everyone publicly.
00:21:36
Speaker
Because as you want to be a positive role model to people who are listening, and you want them to think that, oh, this is a nice podcast, it's safe, and you feel comfortable in this community. But at the same time, as you said, you don't want to be like, you better smile at this or else. Ain't I think? I swear to God, if I see one more frown from you, you're getting booted out of this community. Yeah, good vibes only is oppression, actually. Sometimes my vibes aren't good.
00:22:01
Speaker
The amount of people I have seen non-ironically use good vibes only, and they just continue to be like, oh, it's so happy. Oh no, you're bringing down my vibe. Get rid of like some kind of Alice in Wonderland character. You're like, what is going on here? Yeah. It makes me think of The Giver. Did you ever read that book?
00:22:19
Speaker
No, I don't think so. Oh, it's about this dystopia. It's like a science fiction novel. It's about this dystopia. But the dystopia is presented as a utopia. So like you think it's like this perfect world and everything's happy and everyone's happy. And then slowly throughout the book, you find out like no, no one's really happy. They're just like forced to smile and they're forced. They can never say bad things about the government. They can never criticize the way things are. But actually, like the government has outlawed color.
00:22:44
Speaker
like they somehow made it so when people can't see in color they can only see in black and white and there's like no weather there's no snow there's no rain and stuff like that so it all becomes very sterile and just bland and forced
00:22:57
Speaker
Kinda in summary to that, you wanna be positive, but you do wanna be realistic about it all. Going on to something, another hobby that you have as well, you said you were into Twitch
Twitch Series and Community Differences
00:23:08
Speaker
streaming. Yeah, I started a Twitch series earlier this year, and I have streamed in the past, but in the past I would just stream games, and usually directly from a PlayStation, so I had like no overlay or anything like that, and it was just me on mic. But the stream that I started at the beginning of this year is called Riff Raff Reads,
00:23:26
Speaker
And it is basically a sister show to Bring Your Own Popcorn because Bring Your Own Popcorn is all about movies and Riff Raff Reads, as you might guess from the title having read in it, is about books and reading, but not just books, but also scientific articles. And the concept for that show is
00:23:42
Speaker
Together we read things that you want to know but won't read alone. So I'm talking about stuff like when you see an interesting sounding scientific article and then you open it and start to read it and you're like what do these words mean and you're like exhausted two sentences in? Well I want to read those articles for you together and figure out what the heck they mean because I'll like stop and like google like okay what did that word mean and what are they referring to in the sentence? So there's articles and then also a book. So we're currently reading through a book
00:24:11
Speaker
called Overthrow by Stephen Kinzer, which is about America's century of regime change from Hawaii to Iraq. It covers from the period of the early 1800s up until the mid 2000s of all the times that the American government has either directly or indirectly overthrown other governments. So books like that where it's like, well, that sounds interesting, but I don't know if I'm ever going to read that on my own, including me, which is why I decided to read it on a stream.
00:24:38
Speaker
because if I'm reading it together with other people then I'm more likely to finish it and we can also talk together in the chat about what we're reading and kind of process together. So that's the concept of Riff Raff Reads. To be fair it is a pretty darn good show. I've only popped into I think a handful of them but I have to say the ones I have popped into I was like this is actually really comfy.
00:25:01
Speaker
Thank you. Oh yes, so I did get like a fancy overlay and stuff for it, which are by my friend Milk Surface, who's Milk Myth on Twitter. They are an amazing artist and they made this like really cosy little overlay and background for the show. Out of curiosity though, when we were talking earlier about the podcasting community, have you found any differences between the podcast community versus the community that you've tracked on Twitch?
00:25:26
Speaker
I have not found community in Twitch so far. I would say that the random Twitch folks who stopped by my stream have been very nice, but I haven't done as much promoting for my Twitch stream as I do for my podcast. And it also has only been around for six months at this point. So I don't feel embedded in the Twitch community yet, so I can't really compare it to podcasting.
00:25:49
Speaker
It's a strange and wonderful place to watch, I have to say. When I started, I was very similar. I did the gaming side of it. The only reason I decided, oh, I want to do a podcast was because I enjoyed the talking side of it. So whenever I was talking about how, oh, I'd like this for a little more, oh, I think this about this game. And I was like, what's the point of me playing this game?
00:26:15
Speaker
because, you know, like I was dying in the background and everything. I wasn't really concentrating. And I thought, you know, why don't we just start a podcast? And after that, again, it was the same friend who got me into streaming, who started his own podcast. And I feel like such a copycat. He started one and I was listening to what he was saying. And I was like, you know what? That sounds like a lot of fun. Now I'm here. I'm still here three years old.
00:26:38
Speaker
Yeah, is your friend still doing it too? Unfortunately not. So my friend who's known in the channel as Craigie C, he does still like pop into this podcast in particular, but I think he stopped a couple of years ago. He did a podcast called Bear and Chill. If anyone out there hasn't listened to it, please feel free to check it out. But that was very much similar to this podcast. It was more a variety podcast where him and his friend Jan would talk about things like
00:27:08
Speaker
their favourite films, their favourite games, general things like that and then you know what it's like. Life got in the way and just ran out of time to do it and they were going to come back and then, you know, maybe they'll come back in the future to do it. I really hope so because it is a very entertaining podcast but yeah, that is kind of the worry for old podcasters, isn't it? You never know if one day you're like, oh I don't have time for this episode and then time rolls away
Balancing Podcasting with Life and Representation
00:27:33
Speaker
from you.
00:27:33
Speaker
Yeah, that's the hard thing about the fact that for 99% of podcasters, it is not a profit making thing. There's a very small percentage of podcasters who started out famous or became famous who make a significant profit on podcasting, but most people cannot make a living on podcasting, which means you inevitably have a full time job probably in addition to podcasting or have other life stuff going on. Whereas for the people who can make a living on it, I think it's a lot easier to stay committed to podcasting when it's a main thing that you're doing.
00:28:03
Speaker
No, that is true. I know when I started getting into Twitch streaming and I knew there was this discourse behind people saying, oh, it's like, as I said before, a get rich quick thing that you just sit in front of a camera and all you have to do is speak into the mic or oh, you just have to play a video game and that is not what it's like.
00:28:24
Speaker
I've been streaming, I mean technically I've taken an unofficial hiatus or probably the last year or two, but the fact was when I was putting everything into Twitch I was still getting following and I don't regret meeting those people or meeting the community that I did and everything, they're amazing, but at the same time it wasn't the way that
00:28:43
Speaker
these newspapers and things say, oh look at Jimmy, he was in his room playing Call of Duty and now he's a multi-millionaire because he's really good at calling to the society of it. All you have to do is that. But do you feel as if it is the same with podcasting that people do have this preconception that you're going to be a millionaire, it's like the golden ticket.
00:29:03
Speaker
I don't think so. At least I haven't encountered people who think that, but I know some people do get into it with a goal of wanting to be big. Even if they're not thinking about money, they want to be like famous and successful and, you know, get thousands of plays per episode, you know, as soon as it releases and stuff like that. And that's just a small percentage of podcasts out of all the podcasts that there are, which is many. How many podcasts do you think there are? Do you think it's millions, billions?
00:29:30
Speaker
Oh, absolutely. This is a depressing thing. There will be hundreds of thousands minimum of inactive podcasts that are just floating and limbo and they're just thinking, they'll come back and record another episode. Just you wait and you're like, oh my God, those poor podcasts.
00:29:47
Speaker
But oh no, there has to be, surely. Because as she said, everybody has a voice and everyone is, depending on the content obviously, but for the most part, everyone is entitled to put their voice out there. But whether negative or positive, there are so many people wanting to be heard.
00:30:05
Speaker
Yes, definitely. Would you say though that podcasting is a positive outlet for people? It can be. It's not for everybody because there's podcasts that I've turned on and the first five minutes was just everyone shitting on other people, whether they were saying, oh, this movie sucks and this actor sucks and my wife sucks. Just very bad vibes.
00:30:26
Speaker
type of thing, but I think it has a lot of potential to be a positive outlet for people if they choose to have it be that way. This sounds terrible to be like, oh, celebrities or actors or things, oh, they're just like us, you know, because obviously they are. But the amount of, as she said, podcasts that do go into this, and I have to admit, there's only a few rare
00:30:47
Speaker
instances i think where i have fully gone in and been like i don't like this this is terrible this person's terrible and everything but for the most part i am always whether they're big whether they're small i'm always self-conscious about what i say about a particular
00:31:02
Speaker
game or actor or developer or things, because at the end of the day there is still a human behind that. I don't know if a lot of podcasts, and I know they're just being comical when that's perfectly fine if it's for comedic purposes, but when it gets spirited and they say, oh, this actor's terrible, they should quit forever and everything, it's like, whoa, whoa, hold on a second. And I feel like an old man saying that being like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:31:27
Speaker
It's one thing to express that opinion throughout the course of the podcast, but it's another if your whole podcast is that. I think that's where it really gets me. It doesn't bother me if someone's got a podcast about an overall topic and then throughout it, they happen to mention like, oh, they hate this particular actor. They think this singer is really bad. That's fine. But if they're really harping on it, or if their whole podcast is just insulting everyone they talk about, that's where it's just like, I don't know why you're doing this. Why?
00:31:53
Speaker
It seems less like a podcast and more like a therapy session. Yeah, they're just like venting. The I Hate Nick Cage podcast. I don't think that really took off probably. Wait, is that a real? No, no, I don't know.
00:32:07
Speaker
It might be. If you look it up, probably. I don't know. By the way, for legal reasons, I don't hate that cage. I don't know why it was the first one that came to mind because I could have been scrolling Twitter before when someone was talking about that rain field for them. I've still got him in my head.
00:32:24
Speaker
Yeah, no, I know what you mean. There is that line that even though if you're a small indie podcast, you really have to hold yourself accountable to a degree. It's all fair and good critiquing something, but you don't have to be mean-spirited about it. Yeah, and it's just about what kind of energy are you wanting to sit in and spread? When you're sitting there bringing up all these negative feelings in yourself,
00:32:46
Speaker
That doesn't really feel good for you if it's, you know, extended and repeated versus a moment that comes up. And then does it really feel good for other people to hear either? Like, I'm curious for anyone who's like, yeah, I love listening to someone just talk about how much everything sucks. That's probably not a happy person there. And so they're kind of just taking unhappiness and exponential-ing it. I know that's not a word, but multiplying it.
00:33:10
Speaker
because I have to say the early 2010s on the internet was especially infamous for that. You had high profile creators like Angry Video Game there and those kind of people who yelled at the camera and said, oh, this is terrible, this is awful. And you still get them nowadays. But you get these people who, because they're saying that type of persona become popular, they're saying, oh, I have to mimic that.
00:33:34
Speaker
you know, I can't just say I didn't like that film, it wasn't great. You have to say you're not a very hyperbolic type opinion. You don't get a middle ground, you always get a, oh, this is the worst thing ever. And I mean, that's why whenever I do an episode on a particular show or game or anything, I always have to clarify that if you like said game or said property, then, you know, that's perfectly fine. Because I say it's rubbish, or because I say I didn't
00:34:03
Speaker
enjoy it. I don't want to gatekeep what other people enjoy. I'm just a random person that Scott would give him my opinion. I would hate the idea that someone's taking my word and saying, oh, that person's right, because he hates bardemic. Why should we like bardemic? I'm like, no, no, no. If there's any bardemic fans, which I highly do, but that's beside
00:34:22
Speaker
that there's any of our David fans out there, you know, enjoy. Life is short. Enjoy it. Yeah, just having a consciousness of when you're speaking that you are saying your own opinion. And I think that's fine. Being like, Oh man, I hated this movie and this is why I hated it is very different than saying this is a terrible movie for everyone. Nobody should like this movie. And anyone who likes this movie sucks type of thing. And there is a difference between those two energies.
00:34:46
Speaker
there's so many people like that or not so many but there have been a fair few that have cropped up recently and it just seems unpleasant doesn't it? Yeah and same thing in reverse when people really love a movie and then like want to insist that everyone has to and if all you do
00:35:03
Speaker
didn't love this movie, then you're a terrible person. And that's the one I come up against a lot is that there's movies that everybody loves that I do not. And I realize as we're saying this that I do, I'm talking about like, Oh, the takedown negative episodes are bad. I do have a takedown negative episode about a movie that I hated and
00:35:22
Speaker
everybody loved I think it won an Oscar but I think I don't want to like toot my own horn but I think I did a pretty good job of keeping it fairly balanced and not just being this is terrible movie and you are terrible but more being like this is what I didn't like about this movie this is what upset me about it and also I got quotes from other people to see what they thought about it because I was just trying to understand what is the appeal of this movie so I think that's the difference between
00:35:49
Speaker
talking about something you hate in a sort of examinatory, curious way, as opposed to just talking about it in a way that basically feels superior and be like, it's terrible and I'm better because I don't like it type of thing. I have to admit, being on Twitter and the indie podcast community, I do see a lot of that where there are a few people who will pop up. There's one that definitely springs to mind, and that is the near nostalgic podcast.
00:36:15
Speaker
who he does an absolutely fantastic, so that's Luke from the Nerds Loudrook podcast, and he does an amazing and kind of positive review of things. But I have to admit, there's some things where you'll say, that was fantastic, that was amazing. And here's me sitting up bitter again with the kids to get off my lawn, and then I turn round and read this, and I'm like, right!
00:36:35
Speaker
you like it? Not in that bad way to be like, oh you like this, because I think I wonder why you like to listen to the episode or I'll read what he has to say. And I think that is fantastic to have a discourse and kind of have someone to bounce back and forth with because whenever I do an episode on my own or a recording episode, I think that it's quite difficult giving my own opinion because at the end of the day it's just me alone and I'm talking into the mic
00:37:04
Speaker
versus having someone either by my side or at the other end of Zinkaster saying to me, oh, I think this instead, because there's a lot of back and forths I've had with Michael's, Adam, Andrew, David Craig, you see, but they've said, well, actually, it's because of this and that. They'll go, oh, OK, I'll take a step back. But turning it on you, do you feel that way as well that there are struggles with solo episodes versus ones that you do with other people?
00:37:30
Speaker
Yeah, there is, which is why with that episode, which was a solo episode, I took quotes from people. So like I posted on social media and asked for quotes, what people thought of that movie. And so it wasn't just me talking about my own opinion. I shared other people's opinions. And other than that, I don't really do solo episodes anymore, except for bonus content on my Patreon is the only place that you'll find solo episodes.
00:37:54
Speaker
after I've pretty much done the same as well. Again, that makes me sound as if I'm tooting my own horn as well, be like, oh, if you want the unfiltered, real side of that tsunami, you have to go to Patreon. But yeah, it's always good to be able to talk to people and
00:38:11
Speaker
be able to get ideas in what you said there about getting opinions off of Twitter as well or from your own community. It is just such a great way to have people involved because I have to say recently, and I don't know if it's just because of the good weather or people aren't listening to podcasts as much, but have you ever felt as if that's a struggle sometimes that it's hard to foster engagement sometimes with your listeners?
Listener Engagement and Content Goals
00:38:38
Speaker
Yes, I think so because I don't really have a lot of engagement with my listeners. The most that I ever get is occasionally DMs or texts from folks who have listened and saying that they liked a particular episode. But yeah, my podcast, like I was saying earlier, is a lot like the radio show that I was doing as a kid.
00:38:59
Speaker
in that it just kind of goes out there and can be heard by people, but engagement is not a thing that I'm super pursuing and I can't really say why other than it just doesn't motivate me at this point. On the one hand, it is one of those things that can vary at times, but I have to say, even if the number goes up by one for me, I'm just like,
00:39:20
Speaker
I call one. But I know what you mean. That is that sense of different goals, I suppose, for podcasters, whether that be for, as you said, for engagement or just having it there for people to listen, to be able to find you, not automatically, that's the wrong word, organically, I suppose, which makes me sound like a podcast bot. I apologise for using that terrible word. I just have to bleep out and post.
00:39:47
Speaker
I would love to have more engagement. I'm just not sure how to get it. And I feel like I don't have the time to do the kind of marketing that is required, but it would be really nice to actually hear directly from people how episodes are affecting them. At this point, I'm really just trying to put out the best product that I can and assume like, okay, I think this would make some people feel this way. And I hope that's true. And I'm just going to imagine that there's people out there having these feelings and thoughts in their head based
00:40:15
Speaker
on my episode, but it would be really nice to actually see them written out. But yeah, I don't really know how to get more engagement besides quitting my job and having time to do marketing and promotion. No, I know exactly what you mean. I remember when I started trying to stream and do the podcast and I was about this close and I'm putting my finger in the arm together as if you could see it, but I was like that close to just getting a boombox and just holding it over my head, being like,
00:40:42
Speaker
Yep, listen to the podcast, I'm sure this will backfire again the soapbox and be like, it's one of the hidden, I don't want to say downsides to be negative, but it's one of the hidden difficulties, I would say, with podcasting that a lot of people don't
00:40:57
Speaker
really think. But then again you can look at it on the other side I suppose that it's not really a downside because not everyone's going to be looking for that, you know, world class engagement, they're not going to be looking for a thousand, you know, listeners per episode, they're going to be looking more for just having a good time really.
00:41:15
Speaker
Yeah, and when I think about the podcasts that I'm a fan of and listen to, I don't engage with them at all. Like all I do is hit play. I don't even follow them. Like I follow podcasts in the podcast community, but in terms of ones that I regularly listen to, I'm not commenting on their content that much or anything. So I don't know. Yeah, I don't really know what engagement measures. I guess engagement measures community probably.
00:41:39
Speaker
because it is a very subjective thing, isn't it? Obviously, the objective part of it is numbers and everything, but then it's like, well, what is more important? Is it listeners? Is it people who like your tweets? Because I have to admit, I've seen a lot of Twitter accounts that have hardly any followers, but when you look at the podcasts and things or their Patreon or things like that, they're very successful, or even their YouTube. And don't get me wrong, I think that's fantastic, but I do think that shows that numbers don't really mean everything.
00:42:08
Speaker
Absolutely. That's why my goal is to create something that even if one person listens, if there's one person out there who listens to it and feels good or has a better day or feels entertained, or maybe even feels seen, because we do touch on topics of mental health and childhood trauma and stuff like that through the lens of movies. So if anyone feels like seen or
00:42:31
Speaker
validated or relatable from listening to my podcast, even if it's just one person, that's worth it. That's my goal as opposed to like numbers. Now I can agree more with that, to be honest. It honestly does make it worthwhile when, even if you don't know, to be honest, because I'm saying like, even if you know that someone out there is listening, but even the thought that if someone is listening to listen, you know, they think, oh, you know, as she said,
00:42:58
Speaker
or hurt or they just feel comfortable with listening to it. That is, at the end of the day, all we can really ask for, isn't it? Yeah, just getting our voices out there and hoping that it resonates with other voices. I feel as if that is the perfect place to end, but before we end, because it is,
00:43:16
Speaker
It's like a lovely book at the end. But before we do, I've got to ask two questions. The first one, of course, is something that we alluded to earlier when we're talking about K-dramas, which is something that we have talked about off air, of course. So I've got to ask before, because in good conscience, I couldn't end the episode without asking, what are the current shows that you're watching just now?
00:43:40
Speaker
Oh, so okay. So I just started watching Dr. John, but I literally only watched the first episode. And then I am rewatching two dramas because I'm watching them with friends. So I'm rewatching Hometown Cha Cha Cha with a friend who I just introduced to Kdramas. And then I'm starting a group party watch on Discord of Secret Garden from 2010.
00:44:02
Speaker
I have to say, I have really been lacking on my k-drama game right now. What was the last one you watched? Well, my girlfriend actually got me into this one called Wonder Woman. I don't know if you've seen that one. Never heard of it, no. So it's on Netflix and it's one of these, I don't want to say parent drama, but you know, it's like these identical women who one of them's like a socialite that gets bullied by her very rich family and then she gets mixed up with
00:44:31
Speaker
the complete opposite of this meek woman who won't fight back and then they think she just bumped her head. So that's why she's acting completely different. You know, shenanigans ensue and everything, but I think the last one before that must have been, I think it was like a re-watch of My Love From The Star.
00:44:51
Speaker
which I absolutely is one of my favourites just purely because it was the very first one I watched not only with my girlfriend but also as a key drama as a whole because I remember she had said like early on in her relationship she said oh you should probably watch this key drama and I was like okay I'll try it never tried a key drama before and it literally starts with this alien coming down
00:45:13
Speaker
this one who went throwing this noble woman nearly off a cliff and he stops time and I was like, this is absolutely crazy. I need more of this. Yes, that's such a good one to start with. It has so many fun elements. But as I said, I need to get back into watching them again because they are just such a lot of fun aren't they?
00:45:32
Speaker
Yes, super fun. Yeah, K-dramas changed my life. They give me something to look forward to all the time. And the fact that they're like mini-movies as well is a commitment, isn't it? Yeah, you mean like getting around to seeing everything that there is to see? Yeah, just in terms of the fact that K-dramas are usually about an hour or just under an hour or just over an hour. So you've got at minimum six hours worth of content for some series.
00:45:58
Speaker
Yeah, I try to tell people when I'm trying to push K-dramas on other people, I let them know that it's basically like a 16-hour movie or a 20-hour movie depending on how many episodes it has. And each episode is like cinematic. It's such a different vibe from most Western television. Oh no, it absolutely is. Because see if you zone out for one minute and then you come back and you're like, who the heck is that guy trying to tell her? Why is he taking over these father's company?
00:46:23
Speaker
you're like, oh, it's him. But he go through the motions and you're like, oh, okay. It is just such a, it's a great commitment though, right enough. Because after that, and I always feel like such a hipster when I bring it up, but I remember I had a friend who was like, oh, we should watch some K-dramas together. And we watched this one, oh, I can't
00:46:45
Speaker
him in the name of it. I think it's A Move from Heaven or Heaven Moved. It was about a autistic boy who works with his dad and he works in this company that remove the belongings of a dead person, like if someone passes away in their flat and they clean it up and then he ends up, he has to live with his uncle, with his uncles, obviously not very, you know, as open-minded. He's quite harsh towards his nephew and everything and he's only got his friend to rely on. It's really well done and it's
00:47:15
Speaker
really good one, but we watched that together. There was another one we watched, a small indie one you might have heard of called Squid Game. I actually watched it a week before, or maybe not a week, but definitely a couple of days before it got famous. I always remember I was sitting there and I watched the whole thing, absolutely loved it, and I was like, I cannot wait to tell people about
00:47:42
Speaker
I can't wait to talk about it. It's such a good show. And then of course I didn't need to because a week later everyone was like, oh, it's the best thing ever, you know? So I was like, oh God. Yeah. So I have a confession. I have not seen Squid Game.
00:47:57
Speaker
really I watched the first episode and a half and I don't know if I'll ever finish it but basically it's just not the genre that it's not what I come to kdramas for but I can see and respect why it has appeal because I mean with kdramas as such a next
00:48:15
Speaker
bag. For the most part, I usually, and this shows how sappy I am, but I usually stick to the kind of ones that have the most tropes in them, you know, the kind of romance ones and things, and sometimes you do roll your eyes, because I really can't handle a lot of the, not because, you know, I'm against all violence in shows, but there's a lot of key dramas that are just very uncomfortable to watch, you know, especially the crime ones.
00:48:40
Speaker
Yeah, see, I haven't even watched any of those. I think Dr. John and Kill It are the closest that I've gotten to the darker topics, so I've pretty much only watched the light topic K-dramas. Because I mean, it's like forward asleep listening to your favorite podcast, and then you wake up in your own random true crime one, and it's like, oh yeah, they've gutted the body. And I'm like, I'm sorry, what? Excuse me. Because I mean, I put it on, and then you get very uncomfortable sitting there just like,
00:49:09
Speaker
Yeah, I'm there with you too. And that's actually been an interesting thing that's changed for me over time. I used to have a pretty high tolerance for gore and violence and I enjoyed not true crime because true crime wasn't as much of a thing when I was younger, but I enjoyed that kind of genre. It didn't bother me in a conscious way, but looking back on it, I do know that I had
00:49:31
Speaker
and an uncomfortable feeling in my body that I wasn't in touch with. And as I've grown and matured and gotten more in touch with my feelings and like my physiological reactions, I'm now so in touch with it that I can't watch violence anymore, which is wild. Cause like I was a horror fan and I watched most of the Saw movies. I didn't like them, but I watched them. Whereas now I can barely handle, I'll look away from violent scenes cause I just feel it. I can feel the, I can feel the violence.
00:49:59
Speaker
Oh no, I totally know what you mean. Because there's certain things that I have to admit, I've watched, for example, the raid films or a lot of action-oriented films that are very violent. And don't get me wrong, I think cinematically, you know, oh, they're fantastic. But there's certain things that just completely set me off. For example, if there's bone breaking or things like that and I'm just like, no.
00:50:23
Speaker
And again, I'm saying this as if I am an old man, I'm really not, you know. It is a joke, but, you know, there's a lot of things that I've seen where, you know, somebody falls the wrong way, or the back breaks. It actually reminds me of, I've got a friend who's really into wrestling, and we ended up visiting another friend in Stockholm, and we went to see this WWE wrestling match. And I'd never seen wrestling live before. I'd seen it on TV and everything, or if you saw it on
00:50:51
Speaker
I thought, well, you know the way it looks completely fake and you roll your eyes and you go, oh, right, OK. And then I remember going to see it for the first time and hearing like these grown men and women just smack hard against the floor and all these children going, yeah, go, punch them.
00:51:08
Speaker
And I was just in horror. I was like, what the hell? That looks sore. And you know, it makes me feel old because I'm like, he is going to be sore. He's going to need a heat pack. You know what I mean? And that is how I feel about these films. I'm like, oh, that looks sore. Oh, you cringe. And you're like, oh, that is not great.
00:51:27
Speaker
I think that brings up a significant point about that kind of thing too because these are people who are hurting themselves for our entertainment and that they choose to do that and they're adults so they can choose to do that but then there is the environment of production around them where the people who are supposed to be taking care of them don't always take care of them. I don't know a lot about wrestling culture but I'm sure that they sometimes push themselves
00:51:48
Speaker
past the limits that they should because of producing. And then definitely with film and TV shows, 13 Reasons Why or whatever it was called is something that comes to mind where they really did not support these actors who were hurting themselves for the show. So I think that comes into it too. And I'm like, yeah, I get that you're choosing to partake in this visual that is actually harmful to your body and that's your choice and you're an adult, but also I worry, I worry about you.
00:52:15
Speaker
I mean that's a fantastic point though is like these actors and actresses who do throw themselves into roles and especially and maybe again I know I keep bringing up apologies I'm a broken record but maybe it's just I'm getting older and I'm looking at these actors who seem to be getting just younger and younger and
00:52:32
Speaker
especially on Netflix and Amazon Prime insert any streaming website here, but you see these actors and actresses that go into these roles and some of the scenes that they have to do are just so harrowing. I mean, especially as you said, the 30 reasons why. Obviously, you know, there'll be different levels. Some people will take care of the actors and actresses some people won't and it is just quite interesting to see from more of an adult perspective because even when you're younger and you look at these
00:52:59
Speaker
characters quote-unquote. You see them more as characters when you're younger but as you grow up you see them more as the people behind the character and you're just like this is quite uncomfortable and obviously not always but there are just some instances of that you think wow.
00:53:14
Speaker
Rather than thinking of it as like being old, I think of it as maturity and growth, but also breaking out of a pattern, like breaking out of a habitual pattern or breaking out of a robotic pattern or conditioning. Because if you grew up with movies and TV, it's just part of your life and you're not questioning it and thinking about the people behind it as much. That's just a habit because you've been watching movies and TV before you could walk, probably most people. And then I think as you get older, it is a natural thing to kind of start to question and grow beyond that.
00:53:44
Speaker
as opposed to like, I don't think it means you're old per se or like out of touch. I think it's more like being more in touch with your own humanity as opposed to being out of touch.
00:54:01
Speaker
could be wrong in that. It's like, as the name implies, it's a series. I think it's about three seasons, or technically four, but the first three were uploaded to Netflix and each story is about a particular mask
00:54:17
Speaker
figure that goes around killing people and things. I'm not a big fan of Hodder or anything like that, but I've seen my fair share of, for example, Saw or the Scream films, I've seen really horrible scenes, and I'm like, okay, I can handle this, it's just going to be a slasher, it's going to be a thriller, no problem. And then you see some of the violent scenes in this, and I was just like, oh my God, I was not prepared for that.
00:54:44
Speaker
kind of glad that I still have that reaction to some things rather than being desensitised to them because I feel as if I watched that and I felt nothing, I would have been like, yeah, probably time to cancel that Netflix subscription. Just, yeah, maybe time to talk to someone.
00:55:02
Speaker
Oh, no, absolutely. But seeing that, Noble Aubrey, thank you so much for coming on Chatsanami today to talk about yourself, talk about podcasts, and yeah, talk about all things gay drama. Yeah, thank you so much for having me on your show. And I just want to give a shout out to your excellent show. And as I mentioned earlier, your social media presence is very appreciated and a really great part of the online podcast community. And I was really happy to be able to be a part of it.
00:55:30
Speaker
Thank you. Honestly, it was such a pleasure talking to you and I know we planned this a while ago and I remember texting you being like, yeah, did we say today? I was like, oh, thank goodness. Honestly, thank you. But before we finish up, where can these lovely listeners at home find your content?
00:55:50
Speaker
Oh yeah, so please do check out my new Twitch stream, Twitch TV slash mixed eight majesties, where you'll find roof ref reads on Sunday afternoons Pacific standard time or Sunday evening. Sorry, I changed the time Pacific standard time. And then for my podcast, you can follow bring your own popcorn on pretty much any podcast platform. It's bring your own popcorn on Instagram and it's bring popcorn pod on Twitter.
00:56:12
Speaker
And yeah, I just want to mirror that as well. Just please go check out that podcast and check out the Twitch stream. Both are absolutely fantastic shows. And yeah, I honestly couldn't recommend you enough. So. Thank you so much. Right back at you. So if you're sitting here wondering, wow, this is the most recent episode of Chatsanami. I have nothing more to listen to. Go over to bring your own popcorn. What are you doing here? Go. Yeah. Do it.
00:56:38
Speaker
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00:57:08
Speaker
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Stay safe, stay awesome and most importantly, stay hydrated. Welcome to Chatanami, a variety podcast that discusses topics from gaming and films to anime in general interest. Previously on Chatanami, we've analysed what makes a good horror game, conducted a retrospective on Pierce Brosnan's runs James Bond, and listened to us take deep dives into both the Sonic and Halo franchises.
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Also, if you're an anime fan, then don't forget to check us out on our sub-series, Chatsunani, where we dive into the world of anime. So far, we've reviewed things like Death Note, Princess Mononoke, and the hit Beyblade series. If that sounds like your cup of tea, then you can check us out on Spotify, iTunes, and all good podcast apps. As always, stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, stay hydrated.
00:58:26
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Movies and Feelings. Pop, pop. Bring Your Own Popcorn is a podcast that dives into people and the movies who love them. Let us preach to your choir or stoke your ire as we spiral down memory lane with cult classics, jurastics, and other genres that rhyme with traffic. What we lack in education we make up for with comedy, compassion, and camaraderie. I'm your host, Mixtape Majesty, inviting you to join me and an assortment of wonderful guests on fine podcast apps everywhere.
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Bring your own popcorn.
00:59:09
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This episode is sponsored by Zencaster. If you're a podcaster that records remotely like me, then you'll know how challenging it can be to create the podcast you've always wanted. That's where Zencaster comes in. Before I met Zencaster, I was put a naive podcaster, recording on low quality, one-track audio waves.
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I want you to have the same easy experience I do for all my podcasting and content needs. It's time to share your story.