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Upgrade with Ranvir Shorey over all things theatre, filmmaking & cinema.
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Working behind the camera and starting out as a VJ, he has upgraded his career to commendable heights. Ranvir Shorey, you have seen him playing breakthrough roles in films like Khosla ka Ghosla!, Mithya, Traffic Signal, Titli, Sonchiriya, and Bheja Fry. He is most recently seen in the Netflix Original series “A suitable boy” based on the magnificent novel of the same name by Vikram Seth.
In this episode, Ranvir reveals intriguing facts & insights about theatre, filmmaking, the growing demand for OTT platforms, and of course, cinema. Find the fine actor talking about his days in the lockdown, his viewpoints on Bollywood and its workings, his love for Yoga, and upcoming passion projects!
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Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello guys, welcome to upgrade with Naakon. The point of the show is, we meet interesting people, they give us their productivity hacks, the technologies they use.
00:00:29
Speaker
Hi guys, welcome to a very special episode of Upgrade with Naqul and I have a person with me who needs no introduction. He is one of my favourite actors in Hindi film industry. He was part of Khoslaka Gosla and welcome Ranveer Shori.
00:00:50
Speaker
I'm a 90s kid and remember you from being a VJ on channel VJ. Oh my god, you're old. Yeah, so my memories are very vivid of you and you know, I'm a big fan of some of your movies and my favorite one is obviously Khosla Ga Khosla. Thank you.
00:01:06
Speaker
Thank you. Goslaga Gosla is the gift that keeps on giving. Yes, and I just told my very close friends that I am with this podcast for you and they went crazy. It's that movie which is like I know every dialogue. Okay, let's hear one then. Which is your favorite dialogue? Of course, yours is my favorite.
Ranveer Shori's Acting Journey
00:01:29
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But I want to know how did the journey start for you? Were you very sure when you were growing up that you wanted to be an actor? Not at all. Actually, I was sure I wanted to be in films. By the time I was 21, I was sure I wanted to be around movies because for me, this was the place where everything converged. I was very fond of music, playing music and making music also, listening to music also. Music is a big part of the movies.
00:01:56
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And then I was always fond of, you know, the fine arts painting, drawing and that was also part of the book. I was very fond of dramatic. That was also part of the movie. So I always felt, I mean, at a young age, my whole idea was to start work in a field where even if I don't make money, at least I'll have fun working. So that's why I took up the movies. Of course, my father himself was a small Hindi film producer. So it was always around me. But
00:02:25
Speaker
It was a very love-hate relationship from the very beginning because it was my father's profession too. But finally at 21, I decided that this is where I'll be happy working even if I don't make money. Because this has all my interests involved here. And that's how I started. And acting happened much later. Acting happened, I think, when I was 27 or something. 26, 27. I started... By then, I was already VJing. By the time I was 25, I was VJing.
00:02:52
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And when I was 27, 28, I started Theta. You can see it restarted because actually in school I was already doing a lot of Theta, Dramatics and Debates, Relification. I was quite good at it in school. No, I'll just cut you there but I won't. How did you get it doing at that time? Because at that time that...
00:03:08
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concept was very ill. Yeah, I was already working for Channel
Transition from VJ to Films
00:03:12
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V. I was working behind the camera. My career started behind the camera. I had been assisting in various capacities and doing post-production and production in television. And then I got a job at Channel V to produce and direct non-fiction shows. So I used to produce and direct shows with Luke Kenney, with Javed Jafri, Sophia Haak. These are people I have directed in Channel V shows.
00:03:36
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and then my that time boss Shashank Ghosh who's still a friend and you know he's a filmmaker now he was the creative director of channel B at the time and he felt that I'm very entertaining behind the scenes so I might be I'll make a good present or make a good bj on the channel so he pushed me kind of in front of the camera and that's how the bjing thing started
00:04:00
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and from DJing it went on to theatre and then from theatre it went on to film and then since then it's been all three. It's been TV, film and theatre all three at the same time. And do you enjoy one thing particularly more than the other?
00:04:15
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I think I'm more comfortable and I find it more fun around a camera than a live audience. A live audience, you know, it makes me a bit nervous and the pressure is very high. So those things kind of I feel don't get the best out of me.
00:04:31
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but around the camera I am far more comfortable and I can be innovative and I can improvise so I think my best comes out around the camera so I think film and television is more than theatre although theatre has its own charm so I don't get the charm of theatre because you are going to do the same things again but that you do around the camera also you don't think that everything we shoot is done only once but you are trying to perfect the take here
00:04:55
Speaker
every day you come in yeah but it's like imagine it's like imagine you're trying to perfect the whole piece in one instead of just a part of it so that's the art yeah in theater is theater is great for your skill because like i said like the primary reason why i do theater is to own my skill because uh you know as an actor it's far more challenging to run a whole piece and improve a whole piece every time instead of just
Theater vs Film: A Creative Discussion
00:05:17
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in bits and pieces
00:05:18
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And besides that, of course, there's the joy of the immediate reaction from the audience. You don't have to wait for it to be edited and then post-production and then it'll be shown to the audience. So the wait time is not there. You immediately get to know how you're doing, all the laughs and the crying and everything is right there in front of you. So it's a different high.
00:05:38
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Interesting. One of my recent debates with a lot of people is, will movie or movie hauls exist as it is right now? Like Tada Sky and movie hauls or everything will move to a Netflix or an MX player kind of situation. What are your views on it? Because I see you doing a lot of content now for the web genre.
00:05:59
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See, this thing has been going around since the advent of television. When television first came, people thought, oh, now theaters are going to be finished because now there's TV. Then cable television exploded. Then again they said, oh, theaters are going to go.
00:06:15
Speaker
and then you know the internet streaming platforms have come then again now people have started. So I don't think that anything like that is going to happen. I think all of them I will have their play and write up until pre-COVID times you know, traders were doing booming business at the same time streaming platforms were doing very well. So I think it's just it's the audience has more choices now that's all and for a consumer I think I don't think there is any such thing as too much too much too
Future of Movie Theaters vs Streaming
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much choice.
00:06:43
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You know, even when we go, for example, to a supermarket, you have you have so many choices, right? I don't think anybody complains about that. And still all those brands, they survive in the same way. These platforms, I think all of them will survive in their own way. But do you think that maybe so? My one thought is that maybe the likes of cable TV vanish because everything's remade and instead of it's always beyond demand.
00:07:09
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I don't think, like I said, I don't think anything is going to vanish. I think all of them will have their place. Cable TV has its own place because, you know, it's the joy of not having to choose. It's just there, you know, whatever is playing is what you get to watch. You don't get to like, you know, select what while streaming platforms you have, you get the right to choose. So in that sense, there are different platforms, different mediums. And I think both have their place.
00:07:32
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I think both will survive. I mean all three will survive. Cinema Hall and cable television and streaming platforms. I think all of them will be working together in Punjab. And so one of my thoughts had been that you know you've been doing all kind of movies. So you've done serious movies, you've done comic movies. Is there something which you enjoy more than the other? Not really.
00:07:56
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I enjoy merit. When a script has good merit, whether it's dramatic or comedic, that's not the point. But if the screenplay and the script have merit, if they are good scripts and good parts and good screenplays, that's what attracts me to them. Not exactly the genre, whether it's comedy or drama. It's good craftsmanship. When we see a movie,
00:08:26
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Yeah, I think you get some kind of a feeling but that feeling is not always right. Many times it's happened that you know you get the feeling that this is working and then suddenly it doesn't work.
00:08:35
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And many times you get the feeling, hey, what the hell, this is not working and it really works. But definitely you do get an inkling of feeling, some feelings do you get. Whether they are right or no, I don't know. But some feelings you definitely get. And have you gone through a script sometime and said, what is this? This will never work. Even from a script level. Yeah, of course I have. And those are the films which I end
Tech in Indian Cinema
00:08:57
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up not doing.
00:08:57
Speaker
Yeah fair and so how has movie making and you've been in the industry for so long How has movie being evolved for in the early early 20 till now? Has it become more professional? So I was talking to a baby pain, you know him and he was telling me about how Camera technology has evolved over the would love to know more about because you think of this Has has it become more technologically advanced? What are the new thing being? Oh for sure things have gotten weird
00:09:24
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advanced. I started at a time when offline editing had just come. So I was actually working, I have seen online machines, I started when they were high band around, even before beta cam came and beta cam came and now people are just shooting stuff on their phone.
00:09:39
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And offline edits can happen on your phone and you can basically make a film on your phone right now. Not only make a film, you can even distribute and market a film from your phone. So it's amazing how far technology has come. And yes, of course, in film, in the filmmaking also, technology has changed a lot and advanced a lot.
00:09:59
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But as far as, I mean, there are other things more importantly, what you do with the technology, because the technology is just tools, you know. What we need and where I find a great conflict takes place, especially in Indian cinema, especially in Hindi film cinema.
00:10:14
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maybe not so much in regional and all, is being able to tell freely new kind of stories, new kind of narratives. The theatrical system had become something which was not really encouraging that.
00:10:29
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It was encouraging more of the same because the theatrical system wants to just make money. So it was becoming making more of the same again and again. If something is successful, just start making that more of that because that is successful and that gets the money in. So I feel like technology is one thing but what the streaming platforms are doing
00:10:50
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The biggest thing, the best thing that the streaming platforms right now are doing is giving an opportunity to filmmakers, storytellers, actors, technicians to tell different kinds of stories. And I think that is a great and that's where I think coupled with technology, that's where we'll see the real excellence and real innovation. Yeah, I think it was the first time this time I saw on Netflix, there's a movie called Cargo, which was a science fiction
00:11:16
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Yes, I met her. I met the filmmaker at an award function and I was like, how can you not call
Indian Sci-Fi Films
00:11:25
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me for science fiction? I'm such a huge science fiction buff and there's a science fiction film being made in India and you have not called me. So I gave a brief about that. I was like, you have to call me because I love science fiction and it's an absolute shame that India doesn't have a flourishing science fiction film industry. I mean, it should definitely have more science
00:11:44
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Yeah, and it's such a big, you know, in Hollywood, it's so big, including your studio or your zombie or end of day, end of life kind of thing, then don't see sathis in it. And I really miss it. That's what I was telling you earlier on that, you know, that that thing has not been encouraged by the theatrical system in Hindi film, because I told you they want to keep making more of the same because they are only interested. That's what I was talking about.
00:12:09
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But hopefully now the streaming platforms are in and you know, that's why we'll see some more innovation. So the thought is that people that the theater people think that the people will not walk into such.
Industry Innovation Challenges
00:12:19
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Yeah. And they are not willing to take enough risks. You know, the theaters are just interested. Like it's a money making machine, I told you. Right. That's what it is. So.
00:12:27
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They would not want to take risks. Until you take risks, there is no growth. Should I say that's true for the actors as well? Of course. Absolutely. It's not just one person. It's a mindset. So you said you are a science fiction buff.
Life during COVID-19
00:12:40
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What are you watching? Right. I'm not watching anything. I'm just too busy working, man. I am the kind of science fiction buff you can say who's one of those rare combinations who are Trekkies and Star Wars fans. I love both. Such a big science fiction buff.
00:12:57
Speaker
And where were you in Covid? Were you in Mumbai? Yeah, I got in just before the lockdown started, luckily. Made it just in time. And then I was home from March to right up till September. And what did you do? It must be really frustrating. Since my son was born, you know, I've become... I'm not that social anymore. I just like to hang home. I like to spend time with my kids and I like to cook.
00:13:23
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So it wasn't too bad for me. Of course, it was a little bit bad because you can't normally go out, you couldn't do that. But otherwise, I didn't feel too punished. I managed quite well, watching movies, reading books, playing music, hanging with my kids, cooking. So it was not too bad.
00:13:43
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We are lucky that the most important thing is you had money to live for six months. Think about the people who didn't have money for that. We are all lucky because we had the resources to just stay put and that's not something everybody managed.
00:14:02
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I'm like man you have it you have thank your stars that you can afford to just stay home and do nothing there are people out there who can't do that so I have a five year old kid and I think this was the most serious time I spent with her five is a great age five is a great age amazing time my son is nine my son is nine now so yeah I mean pre-teens approaching alarm bells are going off
Camaraderie with Vinay Pathak
00:14:25
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So, I always wanted to know, how do you and Vinay, are you guys friends? Oh yeah, we are thick friends and he lives in the same building as me, he is one floor away from me. Wow, because it reflects in your movie that you have
00:14:42
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broke code going on? I wouldn't say broke code. I would call it camaraderie, brotherhood. Broke code has very negative connotations because there's no broke code as such. But yeah, because he's also a man of great integrity. And I think I am too. At least I try to be. And so I don't think we believe in a broke code as such. But yeah, definitely bros. So my favorite two both are together.
00:15:11
Speaker
Yeah, you mean Khosla Ga Khosla and Beja Fry. For example, was such a unique movie and such an unusual script that nobody has made such a movie ever. Well, they made Beja Fry too. I wasn't in it, but they made it. But it was not that good. That's why I was not in it.
00:15:29
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Yeah, but Beja was so unique. Yeah, it was. And it was just a very special and lucky film, you know, because it did a huge, huge impact on considering it was such a small film, it had a huge impact. And did it make money? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it made a lot of money for the producer. For the producer,
Bollywood's Democratic Future
00:15:47
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it made a lot of money. So what changes do you want to see in Bollywood now? Now Covid has gone.
00:15:52
Speaker
to be more democratic man you know not to have this whole you know freaking club going on where only you know just your friends and your fucking nephews and their friends nephews and those people and merit merit it should be a proper you know democratic meritocracy meritocracy you know that's what that's what i want but who's stopping it i mean it's geared for control it's what people who you know who make money off it just want to continue making money the way they are making money it's not it's not very democratic which is
00:16:20
Speaker
needs to be a more democratic and open environment. How can you make it democratic? Well, I don't know. I think our audience needs to, the biggest thing is that the audience needs to support and you know, I don't know, man, how to do it is not beyond me because the theatres are now, you know, I don't know.
00:16:38
Speaker
Theaters have to, systems have to be worked out about how, you know, smaller films can also get theatrical release without problems. That will be the first step, you know, that smaller films should not be elbowed out by bigger films constantly. And then you can have more open and, you know, democratic system will thrive. But do you think, you know, during the late 2020, we also saw a lot of corporatization of the production houses. That didn't help.
00:17:05
Speaker
No, they started to toe the line of whatever these old film houses do, they just toe the line
Distribution Challenges for Small Films
00:17:12
Speaker
of that. See, this is a very complex situation and a very wide conversation to have. Theatres are work, like how the retail business in India's family
00:17:26
Speaker
controlled the same way the theatrical system in India is family controlled. It's not corporate controlled and that works on particular networks and those networks are family run networks. So there's only few families that have preference to get preference on these networks. It's a very, you know, it's a fucking can of worms, which I don't want to get it. So you're saying whoever own distribution, which is the principle of business is going to win?
00:17:50
Speaker
See distribution depends on supply right? On the supply of the big star movies and that is controlled by a few production houses. So basically if you are star studded then you will get repeat chances.
00:18:06
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And when I say star started, it doesn't only start, it also means big production house. That's another supply and demand game. So see, distributors work like retailers who have shelf space. And let's say that I am not able to get my product through an MNC to get to be on a retailer shelf.
00:18:27
Speaker
And I say, okay, I'll start my own gourmet thing. And I approach the retailer that, listen, I'm a small time gourmet business product I have and I need shelf space. So let's say that retailer says, okay, I'm going to give you one shelf and let's see how it goes. And you put in your thing and then either the retailer says, listen, this shelf, your thing is not making enough money for the shelf space. So you get out. That's one thing.
00:18:51
Speaker
But the second thing that happens is, if you are doing well, the MNC will come to the retailer and say, listen, you get this guy's product out. Otherwise, we are going to stop giving you product. Oh, that's negative much. So now you tell me, what will the retailer do? Retailer will say, this is my main business. The main money comes from the MNC products. So he'll say, listen, Mr. Gurme, I appreciate your great work, but you go to another store because here,
00:19:15
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I need to, you know, I need to put the MNC's products up. So that's how it works. Thanks for a great explanation by
Gadgets and VR Technology
00:19:21
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the way. I understood it now. So what interests you in technology? What is the latest gadget you want to own now? Like they say in Hindi movies, you know, so I'm actually very, I'm very happy with what all I have. So I have my I have all the toys that I love. So I'm a lucky man that way. I have my I have a iPhone that I love.
00:19:45
Speaker
I have a MacBook Pro that I love. Which is your favorite tech toy? Do you play games? Yeah, I do. I play only one game actually because I'm kind of like hooked to this for the longest time, for decades now. And that's the CSGO Counter-Strike Global Offensive. And I don't get enough time but whenever I do, I log in and I play fun. And you have your own? No, man. I just go online and play it randomly.
00:20:07
Speaker
random people. You should try PUBG. No, I tried PUBG. It's not my scene. I tried PUBG. For me CSGO is the ultimate thing because it doesn't waste my time and gives me a constant adrenaline rush. So, you know, the other games waste your time a lot by getting to the action. This is, you know, straight three minute rounds of action. No waiting time. But you don't box RTS. No, no, I had all of them. I tried all of them. But now in my youth, I did all that. But now I'm like, I'm going to be clean in two years.
00:20:37
Speaker
so now I don't have time for trial and error so I just have to joy things which I know I enjoy and I enjoy CSGO well I'm looking forward to I mean the thing is I don't I mean you know my MacBook Pro is quite old it's a late 2013 model but as soon as this starts giving me trouble and I have to upgrade I'm definitely going to go for one of those virtual reality headsets
00:21:01
Speaker
the oculus one yeah i don't know whether oculus or there's another one i heard which was more compatible with the mac is uh i forgot what it's called so i don't know but i definitely want to try those out and i wonder and i wonder when we'll have when we'll be able to have like you know where when csgo will kind of uh adapt to vr because that's when the for real fun will begin have you played any game in vr yet i've tried i've tried i've done like demos i just saw a video of a of a whole game day where
00:21:28
Speaker
with the virtual reality, they have a runner on the base and you jump with it as the player. So if you have CSGO, you can do the running. So it's a treadmill plus a VR. Yeah. So that's like a dream situation. I look forward to that. Like this last Spielberg film, what was it called?
00:21:46
Speaker
Yeah, ready player one, ready player one. So that kind of, that will be for me like the ultimate gaming experience. Well, that's going to be very true in two, three years. Waiting, tick tock, please hurry up. No, I'm actually very keen on Oculus. And I have read a lot of things on how Facebook is working on creating a state of the art game for the worthy. And for them, they have invested more than billion dollars. So I'm super excited. Me too.
00:22:12
Speaker
me too. I'm quite interested in VRX. That's going to be my next big purchase you can say as and when it happens. And have you tried the Peloton? What is Peloton? So it's this fad in US where there's the bike and the bike is attached and then all the spinning glasses in home but with the group.
00:22:32
Speaker
No, why would I want to do that? I hate spinning classes. I hate exercising with people. Yeah, but you're doing it at home. So while you get the... No, no, no, no. I am a yoga guy, man. I like complete solitude when I exercise. It's my quality alone time. You need the quiet.
00:22:49
Speaker
Yeah, I am not into group exercises and all. My favourite, my ultimate exercising experience is going for a nice 30-40 minute swim and then coming out and doing a 30-40 minute session of yoga. That is my ultimate exercise routine. But of course, now with COVID, I can't go to the pool and all. So, I am left only with yoga. So, at least I drive. So, I do calisthenics now.
00:23:14
Speaker
That's the one thing I started in the lockdown is I changed my entire workout from swim to calisthenics. So I do calisthenics and yoga now at home. There's another interesting thing which could substitute swimming for you. Swimming treadmill. Oh yeah, the one which you have water in it and you have to run in water.
00:23:32
Speaker
No, no, no. You just have to hold a bar. The water is flowing like in a wave. It's an 8-byte kind of platform. And you just hold on to your life. And the water will keep flowing. And Nagul pray, where might I find this? I will do a link. Okay. In Mumbai. I'll find it in Mumbai. Of course not. But I'm sure there would be rich Indian importers who would import it for you. Yeah. But then you have to be rich to buy it. So, sorry. Wrong number.
00:23:58
Speaker
Okay, so what's next with you? What are your passion projects? What's happening?
Satisfaction in Creative Work
00:24:04
Speaker
What are you looking forward to in future? I'm working on a passion project right now. I'm shooting in the US for this series that I'm part of called Metro Park. And it's really one of my favorite projects to be part of. It's a great team. It's a great series. And so after I finish this, I'll go back home.
00:24:23
Speaker
maybe quarantine for a bit, get over jet lag and then hopefully there'll be more work waiting in Bombay and that's it. I mean right now I think everything that I shot for in 2018 and 2019 has coincidentally all come out during this lockdown. That's why you know I've had like six, seven months of the lockdown. I have had like a release every month.
00:24:47
Speaker
That was just a coincidence. But anyway, it's a welcome change. For a change, people could go nowhere without watching me.
00:24:59
Speaker
So now I need to basically get shooting again, get working again so that most stuff comes out because I don't think there's anything left or anything. Or maybe there's one film which Rajat has made which I am proud of. That hasn't come out yet. So hopefully that will be out soon. And I basically need to get back into shooting again because seven, six, seven months of no shooting means there's no more stuff that I am part of which will come out. But it's true for everybody.
00:25:25
Speaker
Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Don't you feel like going back to the behind the camera? Do you want to make a movie of your own day? Yes, someday, maybe. Yes. But I have the thing is I don't want to like I don't want to take that decision just for the sake of it, you know, out of like, oh, OK, now I'm just going to go on director. I don't want to do that. When I feel like I have an overwhelming desire to tell a story, you know, then I might do that. But till then, I'm very happy helping other people tell stories.
00:25:50
Speaker
I realize my skill set is more about innovating, realizing other's vision. This is my skill set, I guess. I'm not too much of a generator of material. And till I have that urge, I don't think I'll get into the right direction.
00:26:10
Speaker
And when you're making movies and the scripting part, do you guys also make your own script? Is that part of the process? You're doing a dialogue and say, hey, this won't work. Let me do it this way. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Of course. Of course. Some directors don't let you do that. But most of the directors I work with, they give me enough. They give me enough space to improvise and to change things around a little.
00:26:31
Speaker
And I think I kind of bloom more in such an environment than an environment where you can't even change a single word kind of thing. And although I work with such directors also, and that's also a legit way of working and has some great results, but I feel more at ease and more
00:26:50
Speaker
more productive in an environment where I can improvise. Okay. You told me you have an iPhone and a Mac. Is there any reason you have not shifted to an Android? Why an
Tech Preferences: iPhone vs Android
00:27:00
Speaker
iPhone? I had an Android in between but Android don't work as well as I do. Really? And how so? There are two things I can tell you. One is that every now and then they hang.
00:27:09
Speaker
androids while iphones don't for years which android i had a one plus okay i'm not on a bad mouse one plus i'm sure it's a it's a great phone and all but now you've used the one who's started this comparison so i'm telling you honestly no no so i i am a pro android guy i know i know in your face
00:27:26
Speaker
So one is they hang. Second point where the OS platform scores heavily on the Android platform is the ecosystem. Machines working with one another. The Apple experience is far better and seamless as compared to the Android environment. Because again, the machines getting them to work with each other is a huge problem with the Android platform. You have to keep like, oh man, it's not connected. And again, try and connect again. And what's going on? I restarted. Now let's try again.
00:27:54
Speaker
So this is more headache in that than the OS platform. I think you've been using the wrong. No, my friend, you are using the wrong. So I change my phone every three months just because I can I work in a second hand phone company. Oh, maybe that's why.
00:28:12
Speaker
and I have gone through Apple Cycles, I have gone through Android Cycles and just more versatile. You can do much more. No, but do much more. What do I need to do? You need to understand. What is it? I am not a developer, no?
00:28:25
Speaker
I'm not an app developer. I'm an actor. There are a fixed number of things that I need to do and I need those to work well. And for that, I think the Apple environment is the best. I'm very happy with it. Of course, it's not as reliable as even Apple, I think, maybe just a coincidence, but I think that since Steve Jobs has passed away, I think Apple is not as reliable as it used to be, but they're still more reliable than the
00:28:52
Speaker
Android ecosystem. Yeah and my business works well for like for with people like you because then you sell your old iPhone and buy this. No no dude I don't I mean what are you talking about I don't I don't change my machine for yours you are telling me every three months you use a new phone I haven't changed my phone in I don't know how long I mean
00:29:11
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I bought this, the last phone I had before this was the 6S. I didn't buy the 7, I didn't buy the 8, 9 to 9, there was no 9, so stay 10. And I didn't buy the 10, I bought the 10S. Yes, and now you'll buy the 12. I don't think so, because things are working fine for me, right? See, I don't, I don't, see, I went through this whole phase where I, from, you know, from like, for example, from the first iPhone to 6, I bought all of them, each and every one I upgraded. But I, this phase, like I told you, I'm not young anymore.
00:29:40
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I don't make Yootka mistakes which you are making. I am older and wiser so I know that there is no need to change now. iPhone 12 is not going anywhere. Three years later also it will be there only. Yes, or there will be an iPhone 14. Yeah, so that time you'll see. Right now I'm very happy with my XS and with my MacBook Pro 2013 and yeah.
Vision for India as Tech Hub
00:30:01
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So, how do you see India evolving in another 5 years in terms of technology? Hyperloop coming in, those kind of things coming in or are we going to be stuck in bureaucracy? Why is your...
00:30:12
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I think with this change in government that has happened you know the change in the political power center of the country can actually has the potential to change a lot of things but I hope it happens so I think India has had a cusp of where it can both technologically, economically, socially you know do a lot of things but the thing is I just I don't I mean I just hope it happens because what the biggest thing this country needs is discipline discipline and hard work and
00:30:42
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to move away from that culture of jugaad and if they manage that somehow this government can manage that you know to inculcate discipline and have a have such a large population turn into a large workforce in in the in the technology and it sector i think
00:31:01
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I think we can do great things in the next, whatever, 50, 100 years. But it's too long. It's too long to think about saying next five years, 10 years, what are the new things you're looking forward to, which you think will be available in India and want them to be there from a point of technology. Well, I would definitely like to see iPhones being manufactured in India. If you are asking for specifics.
00:31:23
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I would love to see India become an Apple manufacturing hub. I would love to see other technologies being produced in India. See, the only reason China is where it is is because it did this. It became the manufacturing hub for these European and American companies.
00:31:41
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and basically got those technologies from them and obviously they stole technologies but I'm saying even if we manage to just become manufacturing house and not steal people's technologies then also we can do really well. We can develop our own technologies once we have the infrastructure in place. So thanks a lot Anrit for spending this time with me. My pleasure. Nice talking to you.
00:32:14
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