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Coaching change season
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Don and Russ discuss coaching changes in the NCAA, recent games and a loom at what's ahead.
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Introduction and NCAA Overview
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All right. Well, thanks again to Devin Tynan for the introduction. And this is the NCAA report with Don and Russ. I am Don Glenn and across from me, a few hundred miles away is Russ Robinson, the man from Missouri with all the sec knowledge that I don't have.
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Hey, Don. Yeah, we're, we got a lot to talk about to tonight, I think. Oh, I'll tell you that. I tell you what, these, sometimes these months, uh, the weeks get a little too, I get too much going and I can't, I get, i you know, i kind of get ah ah a little off on my scheduling, but, uh, yeah, we got a lot to talk about. I thought we'd start with, uh,
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All right.
NCAA Coaching Changes
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So ah since the, since the third week of the season, There have now been 10 coaches fired in the NCAA.
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I'll just kind of go over the list, then we'll talk about the ones that are that really are pertinent. You had Deshaun Foster, Brent Prye or saw from UCLA, Brent Prye from Virginia Tech, Mike Gundy from Oklahoma State. All those guys were fired within the first three weeks.
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Then Sam Pittman lost his job to Arkansas after week five, I think it was. And then just recently you had Trent Bay from Oregon State fired.
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James Franklin from Penn State. Trent Dilfer UAB. b Billy Napier at Florida. Jay Norvell at Colorado State. And Brian Kelly's, the most recent one, fired from LSU.
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We've talked about a couple these earlier and in earlier pods, them being on a hot seat. I mean, especially in Franklin Napier and Kelly's case. um So I want to start with first. I mean.
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I don't know if that's just another case kind of like with what we talked about a couple weeks ago with ah Ryan Walters, where he was probably i was probably not the best idea to throw him into that high level of a job.
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you know uh he's only been there two years well a year and three games five and ten with an only three start when he got fired um i mean i get he was a ul ucla alum uh got some records there had a had a decent following but you know the proof goes to the pudding if you can't if you can't uh you know, kick it into gear and win, especially at a program like UCLA, your job security is not very safe.
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Yeah. but da and you see las not Well, what it was when I was a kid growing up. Oh, no, and it's not anymore. It's been a lot of years since they've been really relevant, too relevant.
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I mean, they've had a few bowl pairings. Yeah, two bowl pairings here and there. And, you know, they're being left behind by, you know, Oregon and Washington and they've been, they're in the big 10. They're not even relevant in the big 10. They weren't much relevant, the old pack 12.
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So ah I don't, I don't see, you know, they say there's issues within UCLA, what you call hierarchy structure in that deployment that they, they haven't dealt with. And so there's going to be a lot of coaches come and go. If I was a,
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young ah upcoming coordinator or coach at a mid-level, I would not probably look at the UCLA as my next job. You know, they'll hire someone. They'll get someone to take it. But I just don't think it's a program that's – until they get whatever those issues are, and you know, and these are – until they get those straightened out, I don't think there's going to much – much Much to change there, you know, so. And I think, like I said, I think what I mentioned about, you know, don't tell the fan, but I think that has a lot to do with it because you have a lot of these programs where the fan base has had success in the past and they think it just ought to continue without any kind of interruption.
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Right. And, you know, that's never the case. even Even Ohio State and Michigan have had their down years. um You know, Alabama's had a down year. So yeah yeah it's never going to be a situation where you're never going to experience hardship.
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But like I say, i think I think Foster just, I just think he was out of his league with this hire ah because he's never really, ah wasn't his on-field coach that long.
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before they gave him the head job so i think it was a uh excuse me next one is sam pitman at arkansas yeah i mean he his overall record was 32 and 34 but i think what actually kind of hurt him was he was 16 and 29 in the sec and
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Yeah, yeah. He never – it's been – you know, Arkansas is kind of like what we're talking about, UCLA, maybe not quite as bad. Yeah. It's been a while since the they've been a – they've been a program of – they've gone through some coaches recently.
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And Sam Pittman was brought in mainly because they couldn't afford to hire anyone better. ah you know, he was in a a long-time offensive line coach, probably a decent recruiter, popular guy, easy guy to like.
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Right. But they just didn't want to spend the money for going to and getting a bidding war for a really good coach. And so I think that might change this time around. But i thought that might be one what will happen this time around with after they fired Pittman, but I got it with all these high profile jobs opening up, Arkansas is going to have to put up some money.
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And I just don't know they can outbid LSU and Penn state schools like that. So there's a lot of, I think when I understand about Arkansas there, they got behind on the NIL issue.
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They didn't have the money up front that some of the other schools were able to raise. They got behind on that. that costs, that costs Pittman some time. And so, and his team,
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whatever happened, his team quit on him. And that Notre Dame game, they just walked over them and they didn't, they were at, they were at Fayetteville. They wouldn't put up much of a fight. So it was just kind of a, Pittman, it was just kind of, it was kind of week week thing for the last two years, almost with him. I'm surprised he lasted this long, you know, honestly. So now these next three guys we've talked about ad infinitum, um,
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And we'll start with the most, with with I won't say the most shocking, but the one that we kind of kept saying at the start of the year that if if there was no...
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um crown at the end of the tunnel he was probably gone and that's james franklin at penn state um i mean it didn't help his cause and i mean they might have waited till the end of the year but when you lose back-to-back games to ah northwestern and uh who was the other one ucla ucla u cla yeah And you're favored by 20 points in both games.
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yeah And especially coming off the loss. That's just you know three losses in a row, two to unranked teams that you should have easily handled. um I think that maybe is why they went ahead and pulled the trigger now on Franklin. i mean And and you know it's not like Franklin has a bad record. I mean, he's 104 and 45 at You know, it's not like the guy's got a bad record over there. No, no.
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He just didn't beat the top 20 teams. He was, he had a bad record in the top ranked teams, a terrible record against top 10 teams. ah struggled against Ohio State, struggled against Michigan, you know, when they were high-ranked.
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So, I mean, he was always the number three guy in the for years, last few years, in the Big Ten, you know. It's like it was Michigan or Ohio State, then came Penn State after that. And I think the the people Penn State just got tired of it.
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And it was just – and the chorus, we were talking earlier, Don, you know, I feel like there was like ah rotting in the foundation of his program because he couldn't do that.
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that When he lost those two games, it just collapsed. You know, you and I both know three or four years ago this wouldn't have happened. you No, no. It's changed. It's changed a lot. And so they're going to go out and try to outbid some programs for a good coach.
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Be interesting to see what Franklin does after this. I don't know. yeah There'll be schools that will want him. Oh, yeah. There's there's i guarantee there's going to be some schools to go at. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to if, you know,
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oh you know, a job like, I don't know if LSU would go after him, but I wouldn't be surprised if Florida knocked on his door. Sure. um You know, or if the some of the next few guys we all that are on the hot seat that do end up being fired, i don't know if he takes. And the other thing is, you know, after so many years and in power four, would he take another power four job?
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Yeah, i don't know. he would, you know, he's going to get a lot of money. Yeah. He's got we're off to get money no matter where he goes. Yeah, he's got money to sit on and he can wait it out a year.
Florida's Coaching Struggles
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He doesn't have to take another job right of away. He can wait it out a year or two or whatever and just kind of see what see what develops.
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I don't know. I would think if he's wanting to get away from the pressure, you know, he could go down to Virginia Tech. In Florida, it's going to be a lot of pressure. Not that he couldn't do it, do a better job, but something like Virginia Tech, I don't think he'd go out to UCLA. I just don't think there's much hope for it. Yeah, don't see him going out that way.
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Yeah, but maybe a Virginia Tech and ACC school. We'll see what opens up. There's going to be some, I'm sure we're going to be talking about some coaches here in a minute that Look like they're on the ropes. They're on the way out, for sure. um um Next one we got is Billy Napier of Florida. Again, this is another guy that you and I have talked about that thought, okay, you know how much longer are they going to hang on the guy?
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I mean, he was 22 and 23 at Florida, three and four so far this year when he got fired. ah Really hasn't put anything together other than a couple of feel-good wins here and there. Right.
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you know And Florida being, you know, trying to get back into the the the spotlight, if you will, you know, that's just not going to get you anywhere. No, and Florida's been... ah kind like you were talking about earlier, Don, you know, they've lived in, they're certainly living in the past, Steve Sperger, Urban Meyer days, and they don't see why they can't return to that.
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My understanding from listening to all the SEC podcasts, bloggers, that Florida has some internal problems in their athletic department that they're got trying to keep too, the the coach is trying to keep too many people happy.
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And, um, Napier just wasn't big enough, uh, name or a big enough personality to do that where guys like Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer could play the politics right.
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So, you know, they're going to be able to afford to go out and hire him a coach. But, yeah, Napier has been on the ropes. It looked like he was on the ropes last year. Then he won a few games, got himself out of trouble, but immediately fell back down. He just wasn't able It just wasn't his – Florida was just a little bit over his head. He did well, I think at Louisiana tech is where he made his name yeah and did well.
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he might very well in lie tech and yeah He might do so well well somewhere else who knows, but Napier, yeah, he's been one of those guys who's on the ropes for a long time, just taking a beating, you know? Oh yeah, no doubt.
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And then like said, the most recent one, uh, Brian Kelly, you and I talked a little bit about that before the show. Um, You know, again, it's not like we didn't see it coming, but, you know, he was five and three this year. he was nine and four last year, 34 and 14 at LSU.
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And, you know, I mean, but I think this is a case a lot like what you're talking about with James Franklin. not able to stay up there with the big boy with the alabamas the georgias um you know wasn't consistently being able to being able to take those guys on and and make any hay out of it yeah he could beat up the smaller guys uh but when it came to you know the big boys he just he just didn't have enough in the tank no he uh you know they hired him to win a national championship yeah and their last three coaches all won national championships uh orgeron
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ah And I forgot who the coach was before Orgeron. He won a national championship. And then, of course, Nick Saban was there before. Yeah, know he won national championship.
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So they expected that and getting them out of Notre Dame. That's what they thought they'd get. And I think when he went down there, he thought he could win one because they're recruiting so much easier in. out of Baton Rouge in the SEC than it is in Notre Dame. I mean, i think he thought that, and he thought he could go down there, and he he assembled talent.
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It wasn't that he just couldn't put it together. yeah And I don't think the fans down there loved him. uh, guy, he just didn't know how to talk to the fans down there. I think his, uh, is someone there was, I was listening to the radio quite a bit over after he got fired. Cause it's one of the most stunning, uh, uh, coaches firings, you know, uh, because he didn't start off in the season on the hot seat necessarily like this. And he, but he played into it. Uh, but he, he didn't, uh,
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his first his introductory press conference when he got to LSU, he tried to put on a Southern accent that he didn't have. yeah And that didn't go over impress anybody. You know, he tried to pretend like he was a Louisiana boy. he and He's a Midwestern guy it why is what he is.
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So that didn't impress people. So anyway, I just think, you know, like you said like we said while ago, two, three years ago, four years, that wouldn't if this wouldn't have happened at all. Yeah, this wouldn't have happened. No doubt, no doubt.
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Uh, so and can that, now that leads us to the guys that are on the hot seat. Um, and there's, I think 10 or 12 of those guys, uh, that was listed in this one report I saw, but we're only going to take care of the the major four.
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Um, Because you've got guys from supposedly from Akron and LaTec and Middle Tennessee. Although, whether here's one other name on here. Bill Belichick is is not considered on the hot seat, but the ah the honeymoon isn't going well in North Carolina. No, no. But the the one, the the big name on the list, that the hang in, this is another one you and I have have gone over time and time again, and mike Mike Norvell over at Florida State.
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Yeah, yeah. You know, quickly in the last couple of years, his is a he his his his lifespan has shortened quite a bit. i mean, it's kind of stunning because he did so well there for a while, and like some of the others.
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But he seemed he seemed like he's fallen in a hole and can't get out. And so it seems like it's just a game-to-game thing to me. I don't – I don't know. I'm not as in tune to the ACC as I am some of the other conferences that you and I follow.
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But that one seems like it's ah it's it could happen any time. I mean, he had that one good year, what, two years ago, three years ago, when they felt they got snubbed in the champion championship.
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um you know but But you look at last year, he was 2-10 overall. This year, he was he's 3-4 right now. His record in the ACC is 20-24, and his overall record is thirty six and thirty one But again, that's due to that one big year he had a couple years ago.
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Right, right. And this year started off with a bang with him. He beat Alabama. Yeah. And so it looked like, okay, he's right at the ship maybe. ah and ah But, you know, it's just something's not right there in in Tallahassee. And, you know, I think it's a game-to-game thing.
00:19:53
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If they open that job opens up, that's more competition – More money is going to be thrown at Florida State.
Struggling Coaches in NCAA
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You know, I feel like they probably got the money to go out after a big coach. but It's going to make it harder for teams like Arkansas and and look in Oregon State and some of the other teams that are looking for coaches. Because you can bet the boosters there in Florida and Tallahassee. they You know, they're looking at the ACC and they're seeing programs like Duke and, you know, Colorado.
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oh yeah Clemson just kind of walk around them in the standing. yeah you know You know they can't be happy over there with that. Next one coming out of the Big Ten, Luke Fickle. um and Again, he's another one. He's been on the hot seat probably for about three years now. I mean, it seems like it anyway.
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um Five and seven last year. He's currently two and six. He's got a conference record of 12 20. one What? ah what? A conference record in the Big Ten of 12 and 20.
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12 and 20. Okay. Okay. Which is – Well, yeah, that's that's a head-scratcher that why he hadn't been able to do well in Wisconsin because he did really well in Cincinnati, wasn't it, where he came from? ah Yeah. Yeah.
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yeah I think it's where he came from with Cincinnati. Let me do a quick search. But, yeah, I mean, he's just – it just doesn't seem like he's got the – I don't know whether he can't put it together.
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um You know? ah Well, I mean, I don't know what the Wisconsin – state of the Wisconsin – Well, I mean, he lost he lost some guy he lost some pretty good guys in the transfer because Illinois picked up three of them.
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Yeah, and, you know, can he can he work the transfer portal? That's another thing. That's the question. yes assistant yeah Cincinnati, he was building with recruits and things like that. and well I'm sorry, I had his i had his record wrong. he was He's in the Big Ten, fifteen and nineteen overall. That's what it is. and was At Wisconsin. at wisconsin At wiscon of Wisconsin, right. Yeah. I mean, has had he had one decent year, 7-6-23, but after that, the program just keeps going downhill. and you know Like I said, maybe he doesn't have a good idea of how to work the transfer portal because at Cincinnati, he was fifty seven and eighteen overall, don't know.
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mean,
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um you know so i don't know i mean um Like I said, he just hasn't seen... and And he took over a program that really wasn't in great shape to begin with.
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Paul Christ had kind of let the program dilapidate a little bit. Um... And, you know, I was surprised that Wisconsin didn't keep the interim coach that they that they put in place for Paul, Chris, Jim Leonard.
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ah You know, what he could have done at the with with the full-time job there. but um So, yeah, he's one that's on the hot seat. um I don't see if looking at their record or at their ah what they've got left on their schedule,
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um I it's not going to it's not going to be fun the rest of the year for those guys for Wisconsin because um right now is at the bottom of the conference. They haven't won a conference game at all.
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um It's not like they're even competitive in a lot of games. um you know, they seem to be falling by the wayside and so in so many. um And a lot of them are lopsided contests that they just don't have seem to have the ability to to come out of.
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um And, you know, they've played some tough teams. Don't get me wrong. i mean, they've they've played a a fairly tough schedule to start. um I mean, they had Alabama early in the season and as a non-conference game.
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But then they lost to Maryland. They've lost to Iowa. ah They played Michigan, Ohio State, and Oregon. Those are three losses. They've got Washington coming up.
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They're off this week. They've got Washington coming up next week. And then they've got illin or Indiana, Illinois, and they finished the season with Minnesota. I mean, looking at this way and watching as we as we just got our hand our butt handed to it by to us by Washington, they might get one more win the rest of the season.
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and that and i'm thinking And I'm thinking that's being somewhat generous, I think. yeah you know um So I don't think he's really that long for um for the the Wisconsin faithful, if you will.
00:24:33
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Yeah. Well, does Wisconsin want enter this year's bidding war for a coach? I mean, for a quality coach. You'll have to see. yeah They may feel like they need to make the move, but, you know.
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it It seems like he's ah it's a week-to-week thing with him, too. Oh, yeah. Well, i think I think he's not – like said, I think they're just going to bide their time and wait and see what happens, who becomes available before the end or by the end of the season, and then I think they'll make their decision on that.
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ah Another guy we talk about all the time, it seems like he's always on our watch list to be the next guy fired. That's our good old buddy Hugh Freeze down there at Auburn. Yeah. Hugh Freeze bought himself some time this past week when he beat Arkansas down at Fayetteville and, uh, uh, and they've lost some really close games. I mean, it so that game in Oklahoma that they lost, it was a bad call that cost them the game.
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Uh, you it could have gone, these games could have gone either way for him. He can't seem to find his quarterback. Uh, and I think he, he changed quarterbacks in the Arkansas game, I believe. And, uh,
00:25:39
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they, you know, they were, you know, they they won that game. So, you know, Freeze is supposed to be a quarterback guru, being able to coach these guys up. And since he's been there, he just hasn't been able to find one that has worked out. So you feel like it's a game-to-game thing. I really get the feeling, Don, that the Auburn would rather not fire him.
00:26:03
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They'd rather stick it out with him, but if he, you know, I don't know what is – he's got to play Alabama still. I don't know who else they've got to play. I've got their schedule. They have Kentucky this week, Vandy, Mercer, and then Bama.
00:26:20
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Well, they can beat Kentucky and they can beat Mercer. I don't know if they can – Bandy is really good. They're not going to – I don't think they can beat Bandy. ah But anyway, so there's two two more wins there ah see. So I don't know.
00:26:35
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I don't know. Of course, if he beats Alabama at the end of the year, that would make all everything right with without Auburn fans. But we'll ah just have to see. Yeah. They're hoping for a replay of the iron bowl from years ago.
00:26:50
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Yeah. Yeah. That last second when they pulled out. Yeah. um Then the last guy I've got on this list is when we just, we just kind of talked about his team and that's Kentucky.
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ah Mark.
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Oh, Stoops. mark it I even read my own writing. Yeah. Mark Stoops. Yeah. I think his biggest, he's, he's only got a 500 record at Kentucky. He's been there a long time, been there 13 years. Um,
00:27:21
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um He's four and eight last season. Right now they're two and five. And he's got a horrible conference record of 36 and 67. But then again, you talk about where he's playing, you know, SEC, when you're playing with all the, yeah you know, the big boys, the Alabamas, the Tennessees, the Georgias, ah you know, and I don't think recruiting wise, they can keep up with those guys.
00:27:45
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No, I don't think so. And he did well for a few years there. He came in, he had to build it up. He got it built up. ah He had a few good years there in the middle and then it just kind of has fallen off. And one thing he, he could, he found is a lot of this is he, he found a quarterbacks, but he hasn't been to find one lately. And so, I mean, yeah, they're, they've kind of changed places. Kentucky and Arkansas have kind of changed places with Vanderbilt as being the homecoming game for everybody. No one wants to play Vanderbilt now, but they, they Kentucky Arkansas has kind of replaced them. So, yeah,
00:28:21
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Yeah, you feel like Stoops is on the is on the ropes, definitely. He's on the ropes. Whether he'll survive, make it, and they'll keep him another year, who knows. Kentucky just cannot go out and outbid.
00:28:33
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you know, with all the open jobs, you you know, Penn State, LSU, you know, and some of those schools that are out there looking, Florida, they they just, they won't be able to outbid those guys at all. Yeah. and Upcoming, upcoming for Kentucky, they've got Auburn, Florida, Tennessee Tech, and then the the final two games of the season are at Vandy and at Louisville.
00:28:58
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Well, it doesn't look too promising for him to to win too many more games. um Right. I just, you know, it's just so I don't know if he'll survive or not, but then Kentucky will have to go in the marketplace and find him a coach. So, I mean, it's going to be tough bidding, but they might, you know, maybe they can find a mid-major guy or or top coordinator to come in there. I don't know.
00:29:22
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Yeah, i you know, it's a good – it's it's it's ah anybody's guess, really. um So we'll get to the rest of what we're talking about today here in just a moment. Right now I want to talk about hydration. It's important for maintaining good health. And the human body consists of 50% to 70% water.
00:29:43
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00:33:14
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Okay. Well, let's see what we got here. Next up on the agenda. Once I clear out all this other stuff. There we go.
00:33:25
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Okay. I was kind of wanting to go over the last couple weeks we've had of of but just some upsets um all over the place.
Notable College Football Upsets
00:33:36
Speaker
I mean, it really was kind of a weird, weird week, if you will, a weird two or three weeks, I guess, really yeah going back to week seven.
00:33:50
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um Now, this wasn't – don't think this was necessarily an upset, but, you know, it was a game that I think sparked a lot of interest SEC-wise, and that was Missouri-Alabama. I think Missouri did – I think Missouri held their own pretty well against Bama.
00:34:03
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ah They weren't outclassed at all, they could have won the game. i mean, they lost by three points, and they were moving the ball there, either going for a field goal touchdown through an interception. But, yeah, they weren't outclassed.
00:34:15
Speaker
It was a good game. um Yeah, it just was one those – in the end it didn't, it didn't break their way. So, yeah. And I think one game that we, we were talking about with, with Norvell, let's put him on a hot seat was losing the pit 34 to 31. Yeah.
00:34:31
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yeah Yeah. that That doesn't help your, that doesn't help your situation at all. No, it does not. No. And then you had, you had the big upset in the big 10, which was Indiana going into a Eugene and knocking off the ducks by 10 points. Yeah.
00:34:46
Speaker
Boy, that Indiana team is something else. I tell you what. I short-changed them. you know I thought last year when they had a soft schedule, they got in the playoffs. But this year, they're just taking care of business as they're going along.
00:34:59
Speaker
yeah I don't know. I mean, I guess Ohio would be interesting to see. I don't know if they'll play Ohio State this year or not, but it'll be interesting to see. each state I don't think they do.
00:35:12
Speaker
But, mean, I don't know if they do or not, to be honest with you. I wish I had a better answer for that. um I think this was the last ranked – Oregon was the last ranked team that they had to deal with.
00:35:28
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Big Ten. Big Ten.
00:35:38
Speaker
You know, if we had a staff around us, we could yeah have all this ready for us, you know. ah But wet we ain't got that kind of money. ah So, india um let's see. Indiana, they they just walked, and they just recently just walked into UCLA ate their lunch.
00:35:57
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oh yeah. yeah You know, which that's not a big surprise by any stretch of the imagination. right, so what they've got left on their schedule, they've got Maryland, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Purdue. and you know, how fired up a Penn state team can get after losing Franklin. I don't know whether that's some, sometimes those like UCLA, they mean, you know, they fired Foster they picked up a couple of wins here and there.
00:36:21
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Yeah. You know, but, but yeah, the the rest of their schedule, they don't play anybody really of any, any major consequence, you know, and I don't think Ohio state does either.
00:36:36
Speaker
They pretty much, I think are, uh,
00:36:41
Speaker
Can cakewalk the rest of the season? They got Penn State coming up. And then they've got after Penn state, they've got Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers and Michigan course ended the year.
00:36:54
Speaker
And the Michigan game could trip them up, but I, I don't, I think you're going have two undefeated teams coming out of the big 10 is what my. It sounds like that's where it's going. on Looking, listening to you, uh, repeat the schedule. It doesn't sound like there's anyone who could, I guess a lot of that depends on it.
00:37:11
Speaker
And I haven't kept up with Penn state since Franklin's been fired. I don't know. I mean, they've, uh,
00:37:20
Speaker
that's been a couple of weeks ago hasn't it let's see when did he get the boot
00:37:33
Speaker
yeah i fany let's see they were were were they when he was fired ah back to my notes here they 3-3 when he was fired Well, they got beat because of three and four now.
00:37:49
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Yeah. So they did get beat. And then they lost to Iowa. Yeah. and Okay. um So, you know, it doesn't feel like they're going to stand in anyone's way. No, because they've got Ohio State and Indiana back-to-back.
00:38:01
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They had Ohio State and Indiana at home. And then the rest of well the schedule is not that bad. So, you know, they'll – they won't end up with a winning record, but, uh, you know, at least they're, they've got a, they've got a chance to end the season with a couple wins with the, if they get, if they, if they don't, if they don't lose too much face, so to speak.
00:38:20
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Um, and then, um, ah Well, one here, it piqued my interest, and I don't know enough about either team, although I think it may it may be a, I won't say a feather, but a way to to keep his job going, and that's Colorado taking down iowa State. Iowa State was ranked like 17th or something like that.
00:38:45
Speaker
Yeah. You know, so that was, yeah you know, something there. Texas? walked in and just flat out took Oklahoma to task.
00:38:58
Speaker
Yeah. 23-6. I mean, ah it felt like Oklahoma was never even in that game. and I know. And Texas just cruised. Yeah, you know, Texas played – looked good. I mean, offensively, they put enough together to win that game.
00:39:12
Speaker
ah I don't know if they're finally – if the offense is finally coming around, if if Arch is – And I watched a little bit of that game. ah If Arch is going to come around, but this week they they play Vanderbilt at home. and That'll be an interesting game.
00:39:27
Speaker
Texas needs to win still because they've got two losses. And Vanderbilt only has one loss. So that'll be interesting to see if Vanderbilt can take it, still keep moving forward. I mean, Texas is ah down there at Austin is a good test. It's, you know, we'll see what happens.
00:39:44
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Vanderbilt is legitimately a very good team. And so, you know, anybody who can beat some does well, I think. Well, yeah, I mean, you you look at the last couple of weeks, they took down LSU,
00:39:56
Speaker
lsu And, know, like you said, they're not – and, you know, the game that they lost, I mean, how do you fault them for losing to Alabama, for crying out loud? Yeah. I mean, it's – You know, I think they're kind of a team, kind like what we're talking about with Indiana. Okay, yeah, they had a good year last year, beat some guys, made some noise. Yeah, okay, have a nice day, go sit down. You know, and a sudden they no, we ain't done yet. Yeah.
00:40:24
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Well, you know –
00:40:27
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Vanderbilt's done something to help Clark Lee out, and that's why they've loosened their their standards, their academic standards for letting players come in and play there, where before they they didn't. And it's helped Clark Lee to work the transfer portal and get good players in there. So, I mean, it's kind of stunning.
00:40:45
Speaker
how quickly he turned this thing around. Last year they went, so I believe, Don, they went seven and six. And that was a good record for them. But this year they're they're on another plane. I mean, they're just they've just gotten better.
00:40:57
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So, you know, that's just – it's a stunning thing. It's kind of like Indiana. You know, you just can't hardly believe what you're seeing there. But they're legitimately a very good team and probably deserve to be in the top ten.
00:41:12
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Yeah. And then, you know, course, a couple other games from the a couple weeks ago, you had Arizona State taking down Texas Tech, which, I mean, kind of a shocker. I mean, Texas Tech was in the top 10.
00:41:23
Speaker
You know, and you didn't expect that kind of game out of Arizona State. um And in Louisville over Miami was another one I thought was, you know, I didn't see that coming.
00:41:37
Speaker
Well, Jeff Braun is a good coach and he gets the most out of what he he's given. He has to work with. And so he pulled that thing off, give him give him credit. But the Braun is a good coach. You know, he, he has won wherever he's gone. He's not one big.
00:41:52
Speaker
He didn't win big at Purdue, but he did win. And that's a tough place to win football games. tonight So, you know, he came down to Louisville and he's you know, he's making his presence known down there. So I, you know, I think they,
00:42:04
Speaker
I think they've you know they've got the right coach there for them. it It does sound like it for sure. um Then you got, let's see, a couple games that you and I both wish we could we wish we could kind of have. Well, well i know Illinois does. i don't know about Missouri because that was a pretty close game against Vandy. But, you know, Illinois going over to Seattle and basically, like I said, getting their lunch handed to them mostly in the second half.
00:42:34
Speaker
But you could tell that game was just – And um a bunch of us on my...
00:42:45
Speaker
Champagne room website we were talking about, or chat room, we were going over that game. It's like, you know, it's it's almost, I won't say that the players gave up in the game. It's just they looked like they really just didn't have a clue in how to stop. And that's the one thing I think that's going to hurt Illinois um going forward right now is the defense. And, you know, going into the season, we thought that was going to be best.
00:43:12
Speaker
big strong points you had uh eight of the 11 guys coming back and including your entire secondary and and it's a secondary i think that's letting everybody down but uh you know and then the missouri game i guess you you guys took had vanderville i mean it wasn't an upset i mean vanderville was 10 you were 15th but um you know obviously you you saw that game and you you know how good is vandy i mean you've you've made it they're they're for real they're for real and missouri's you know, it it's one of those games like the Alabama game. It could have gone the Missouri's way.
00:43:47
Speaker
ah couple of missed field goal and a missed field goal that should have been made and then a fourth and goal at the one that didn't get in ah there They're starting quarterbacks out for the year, you know, so they were, they had a true freshman quarterback playing the pretty much the fourth quarter. So it's a,
00:44:06
Speaker
Yeah, it could have gone either way. It wasn't an embarrassment. it just you know It just was a tough game to lose. That's just the way it is. but yeah so Upcoming this week, what we've got hanging around in the in the annals of the top 25, not a lot of real high-profile games that I think are going to make anybody stand up and take notice. and one I mean, one that could have been ah was ah is Ohio State-Penn State. penn state but like you say, I think Penn State is is really – mean, I don't know where they're at in terms of how that team is is is functioning internally.
00:44:40
Speaker
ah Texas Vanderbilt, I mean. That's going to be an interesting game. That's going Darrell Royal Stadium there in Austin. Right, and Texas ah has to win.
00:44:53
Speaker
i mean, there'd be there'd be three losses. If they don't, they'd be out of the – that's not what they were counting on at all. ah But Vanderbilt, so that's an interesting game. I'm just flipping through here.
00:45:04
Speaker
And you're right. There's not a lot of just fascinating games this
Upcoming College Football Matches
00:45:11
Speaker
this week. I think it's pretty much going to go chalked the way I'm seeing it, other than those couple of games. Oklahoma-Tennessee could be a game to watch. i mean Well, that there will be because in the SEC, maybe nationally, because both those teams have two losses, and the new whoever loses it be out of the college football playoffs. Oh, you've got to be for sure about that.
00:45:32
Speaker
the playing or For the playoff. You know, right. that's king So, uh, so that's important to them. Uh, so, like but like I said, outside of that, there's just not a lot that I see.
00:45:45
Speaker
I mean, uh, one game, big 10 wise that, you know, now that Illinois is pretty much, uh, with three losses there, you might well consider them out of the playoff picture. You've got a couple of teams still trying to make their way in, USC five and two against, uh, at Nebraska six and two,
00:46:02
Speaker
um You know, that's a game where, like you said, it's kind of like the Tennessee Oklahoma. You lose your your seasons. You know, you're you're hoping for a decent bowl after that. You know, you're not yeah' not talk anymore.
00:46:13
Speaker
Right. You're un unlikely to get into the to the college football with three losses. You're very unlikely. So, you know. you know one One team that I don't think is getting enough mention, I kind of look at the standings in the different conferences, and one that really just kind of it it befuddles me, when you look at the um the um ah American Conference, the AAC,
00:46:42
Speaker
You've got Navy at seven. or nine Now, granted, Navy hasn't played a lot of big profile people, but they're seven and oh five and oh in the conference. And Memphis at three and one is ranked ahead of them.
00:46:54
Speaker
Tulane is right there. And, you know, you're going to go down in the middle of the pack to get that one. You go to the ACC. And, you know, Miami is ranked in the top 10, but they are like, let's see, two, fours.
00:47:10
Speaker
They're seventh in their conference. Yeah. And they're ranked in the top 10. Yeah. You know, you got Georgia Tech at eight. and No, you got Virginia at seven and one Pitt, who we talked about a little bit ago, six and two Louisville, six and one, you know, and, and Miami sitting there at six and one, but they've only got two, they're only two and one in conference. I've only played three conference games.
00:47:34
Speaker
Yeah, I think I guess they'll finish strong the rest of the year out. But Georgia Tech is such a surprise. People just people's jaws just dropping that they're number eight in the country and undefeated.
00:47:48
Speaker
And yeah, I mean, so it's it's really a surprise. you know you You thought Miami. You might have thought, I don't know if you thought Louisville, but maybe, you know, Miami for sure.
00:48:00
Speaker
um But yeah, that's just, that's a, that's a weird day. He sees a weird conference and how good are these teams? We just, that's my question. How good are these ACC teams if they stack up?
00:48:12
Speaker
Oh yeah. I mean, i hate to be ah one of those guys that says the SEC and the big 10, you know, are the only two conferences, but just don't know how good they are. And so maybe, maybe so. I'll be,
00:48:23
Speaker
ah tell you, Don, what will be interesting is to see how Notre Dame plays out the season. Yeah. they've got their They've lost their first two games. Now they're on a roll. And I don't know there's anyone left that can stop them or not.
00:48:36
Speaker
you know But they get 10 wins. They will get it into. i was kind of looking at Georgia Tech's schedule. And really, the only – Noted teams, I guess you could say that they've beaten ah Colorado first game of the season they beat Clemson when they were number 12.
00:48:54
Speaker
you know, Duke they've beaten. and what they've got left for the rest of the season is NC state, Boston college pit. And then Georgia at the end of the season, they do get a tough game at the end of the season with Georgia.
00:49:07
Speaker
Yeah. Pit probably won't be a, any kind of a walkover for any kind of a stretch, but yeah. Yeah. And you know, you mentioned Notre Dame and that, uh, um I was looking at the standings and they're ranked number 12 or rankings. They're number 12 right now.
00:49:22
Speaker
So in the theory of the college football playoffs, they would be the first team out to let in a ah unranked conference champion or an unranked power five or a group of five.
00:49:37
Speaker
Right, right, right. Yeah, they will have to climb up some more, but I think they'll get if they went out, I think they'll get there. I think it's hard to do. They've got they've got those two losses at the start of the season. But, you know, you lose to a number 10 Miami at that time and number 16 Texas A&M.
00:49:55
Speaker
ah But the problem is they really, to to me, they haven't beaten anybody. I mean, they played Purdue, Arkansas, Boise, NC State, and USC. Now, USC, you can kind of hang your hat on and say, yeah, those guys are playing good. They're they're in the talk.
00:50:11
Speaker
But then you look at the rest of their season schedule out. Boston College, Navy, Pitt, Syracuse, and Stanford. Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, like you said, they are going to have to win and win impressively and hope like heck nobody else jumps them.
00:50:27
Speaker
Yeah, but those two, the two losses weren't bad loss. No, no. It wasn't like they got blown out there. They, it's not like losing to Northern Illinois. Like they did last year. Not like, yeah. It's not like getting beat by a, by a Mac school. That's for sure. Yeah. Also, Texas A&M is looking better and better all the time. Cause Texas A&M is looking better and better. off Oh yeah. So, so I don't know, you know, Don, I think if they went out, they get in, that's just me. Um, you know, and I, I don't know who would, uh,
00:51:01
Speaker
yeah I'm looking at who's left for them like you did. and ah you know I don't know. yeah I don't know if Navy would count for anything or not. Navy might be able to give them a game just the way just based on the way they're playing. but and Can they beat north Notre Dame? I don't think so. um and you know so Going into that, it kind of brings me into the with looking at the at the rankings, ill go we'll get to those here, we can get back to those here in a second, now I can find them.
Playoff Rankings and Speculations
00:51:34
Speaker
um Now, we don't have the CFP rankings. They don't come out until next week, I think it is, week 10 or week 12, 11 or 12 is when the – no, actually, it should come out this week. should come out this Sunday um is when the when the CFP rankings will come out.
00:51:54
Speaker
um But you right now, the top 12 teams, which if you go by what the CFP is going to do, is Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A&M, Alabama, Georgia, Oregon,
00:52:09
Speaker
Ole Miss, Georgia Tech, Vanderbilt, Miami, BYU, and Notre Dame. Now, if you go by who's supposed to be getting in, um I looked at this earlier,
00:52:23
Speaker
right now there is no representative from the group of five. Uh, the closest group of five representative, it would be Cincinnati or no, is it Cincinnati? I think it's Cincinnati.
00:52:40
Speaker
Um, or no, they're big since he's big 12. Um, Memphis, Memphis. Yeah. Which is right now ranked number 25.
00:52:51
Speaker
um And again, all these are probably going to, it some of these will probably change depending, you know, and it, It's going to be very interesting to me um how the next couple weeks play out.
00:53:07
Speaker
Because like said, you know how that group of five is going to get in. And you know like we were talking about with Notre Dame, I think you can also put Miami and BYU in that same category.
00:53:19
Speaker
um but you know They've got to make some impressive wins. they can't you know it's ah it's hard it's It's hard to say BYU at eight and no can't afford to lose, but they can't. And realistically, they can't afford a loss ah sitting at number 10 right now.
00:53:35
Speaker
Yeah, right, right. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it you know the breaks are going to be given to the SEC in the Big Ten and maybe the yeah and maybe to certain degree the Big 12. But, yeah, you know, so a lot of these teams, are yeah, just can't afford to lose.
00:53:55
Speaker
any games at all you know so well they're talking you know four teams out of the big 10 and you know right now uh you outside of the top three that are sitting there in ohio state indiana oregon the next big 10 team that shows up is michigan at 21 and they're six and two if they lose one more game before they have to play ohio state they're done They're done.
00:54:21
Speaker
They're done. And then you've got USC at 5-2 right now. So USC could end up being your fourth team in if they win out. I try. I try.
00:54:32
Speaker
So, yeah yeah. Once you have two losses, you don't have much wiggle room left. or hardly No, your your wiggle room's gone. i mean And we saw that last year with Alabama you know um and a couple others. you know They ended up with that third loss. They're like, oh, Oh, but we should get in. We're a better team. Well, you you probably are a better team than Arizona State. I'll i'll give you that.
00:54:52
Speaker
But, yeah you know, yeah he somebody's got to leave when you take the conference champions in. That's right. That's right. That's what that's going to happen to. So, ah excuse me. So, I mean – That's about all I've got for tonight. um You got anything else you want to throw out?
00:55:14
Speaker
ye No, I don't. I think we covered a lot tonight, Don. I mean, we had the coaching changes and we had the upsets and the big wins and the schools that are in trouble. So, i mean, the coaching changes are really interesting.
00:55:26
Speaker
The coaches have been terminated. So, and we'll see how this plays out, how many more join their ranks, you know. Oh, yeah. No doubt about that. I mean, yeah you know, like you said, it's going to be very interesting to see – um You know, how, like you said, how all this plays out and, you know, with the teams that we've got and the teams that are, you know, like like like we've talked about the coaches on the hot seat, you know, and, you know, there's teams that that are sitting there that, you know, if they make a decent run, you know, they put their like a USC, you know, they put their name and in in the books.
00:56:06
Speaker
ah You got teams like like we talked about earlier, the the teams with two losses. know they can't afford any kind of hiccup over the next four weeks. And so it's really going to be interesting. but It's going to thin itself out pretty, pretty much.
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00:58:33
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