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The Natty, coaching and much more!
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Don and Russ talk about the Natty, Dabo Sweeney on the Portal, the coaching carousel, and basketball!
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Meet the Hosts: Don Glenn & Russ Robinson
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the moment you've all been waiting for. Here they are, your favorite hosts, Don Glenn and Russ Robinson. All right. Well, it's that time again, folks. It's time for the NCAA report with Don and Russ. Thanks again to Devin Tynan for his wonderful introduction. And I just want to remind everybody that the NCAA report with Don and Russ is a proud part of Gateway Sports. At Gateway Sports, you can find podcasts and articles on anything.
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We are including even some high school stuff now. So high school to the pros. Check it out. Gatewaysports.net. All right. This is the NCAA Report with Don and Russ. I am Don Glenn, your host. And with me, as always, a man from Missouri who knows more about the SEC than Paul Feinbrock.
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ha I doubt that, Don, but good good evening. How you doing? How are you Russ Robinson, my friend from Missouri. So, yeah, I'm an Othoros. Had a had stress test yesterday. how you did?
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yeah i've been having a I've had a little issue with some what it's upper body chest pain, and they just they thought it was a good idea to give me a stress test. and Sure.
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I don't know. The that the nurses that applied said it looked pretty good, so who knows? like Yeah. It is what it is. Was that? Well, hopefully so. I know I've never had a stress test, but I know both my parents, I took few them to have stress tests and, you know, you something they had they need to do to find out. That's the second time I've had a stress test. Had one a number of years ago when I did have an incident at work and they did think it was cardiac related. And um I passed that stress test that time.
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doing it in a pair of steel toed work boots. Yeah. Because, well, I went, they, you know, they took me straight to the hospital and then the doctor said, well we're going to keep you overnight. And then we're going to do a stress test in the morning.
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and And when my wife came back in the morning, she forgot to bring my tennis shoes. So I had to do it in a pair of work boots. And the doctor, he goes, he goes, well, you did fine. And he said, I'll tell you this. He's the first one ever seen anybody do a stress test in steel toed boots.
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so There is that go yeah What? After our last conversation, we both thought that Indiana would win the national championship fairly handily or at least cover the eight and a half point spread.
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um And while they did win, it was not an eight and a half point spread.
Indiana vs. Miami Game Analysis
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um It was only six points. They won 27 to 21 beating the Miami hurricanes. And they started out, you know, started out with a 10, they were 10 to 10, nothing and a half.
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And if you go and look at the the box score yards in, in terms of yards gained, I mean, ah Miami gained 342 yards, Indiana 317. Indiana had more rushing yards. Miami had more passing yards.
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um um You know, but to me, and this is just on the outside looking, i mean, that you talk about the flow of the game and you know, Indiana, like I said, they they they came out in the first half and they got a field goal in the first quarter, touchdown in the second quarter.
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And, know, Then it was just kind of matching whatever Miami did. Miami just didn't have enough ah enough plays to match them is ah is what it amounted to. I mean, they scored twenty they scored all their points in the second half, 21, and Indiana countered with 17. I mean, it's it was it was kind of a tale of two games, really. who Yeah.
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Yeah, well, you know, I guess maybe we didn't give enough credit to Mario Cristobal for preparing his team. when we watched Indiana roll over so many people. um Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, teams we thought were at least as good as, as, as Indiana and, and, you know, they didn't seem to, they seem to brush them aside, but give a, Cristobal and his team, they were prepared for that game and they they didn't give up. So it was it was a it was a good game to watch. It was nice that the national championship game was competitive. you know so ah And you would expect that, but just that we hadn't seen really ah too many people challenge Indiana.
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um And that's the thing. I mean, you think about it and the way Indiana rolled over people and, uh, you know, uh, and it wasn't just the, the regular season. You look at the what they did in the post season, what they did to Oregon and, and Alabama. It's like, you know, you thought this team was just going to just, that was role was going to continue and didn't now on the the other side of it.
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You know, I think we also, like you said, i don't think we gave, um the Hurricanes enough credit, um you know, for what they were able to pull off and then tail into the season to get keep themselves in the in the mix, if you will, to get that shot out of the ACC.
Miami's Finals Spot: Debate with SEC Fans
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um And, you know, I have to, I'm not trying to make a dig at the SEC here, but, you know, you had so many people, and and especially coming out of the SEC, you know,
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fans and whatnot on all the social media posts and whatever, know, saying, you know, that Miami didn't deserve to be in it. They should have, you know, there should have been um somebody, a Tennessee or, or, or somebody else in in their place that, you know the ACC was a, was just as bad as the two group of five. school I mean, all this stuff you keep hearing, know,
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or you kept hearing, and, you know, like I said, when it came down, pushed to shove, um was was was there an SEC team in the Final Four?
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Ole Miss. yes yeah That was the two miami d that's right that's only SEC team in the Final Four. You didn't see Alabama. You didn't see Georgia. It was Ole Miss.
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Right. um You know, and and and all the talk about, um you know, I'll kind of kind of, a I don't want to say say bad things about the Big 12, but you look at the Big 12, you know, Texas Tech was right there almost all season, and, you know, they didn't make it past the first round.
Impact of Transfer Portal on College Sports
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No. You know, and it's just, you just have to wonder, I mean, um like like we've talked about before, and we'll get to it a little bit later, too, you know, the way the transfer portal in NIL has taken taken hold, know,
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um you know it's it's not It's not two conferences against the world anymore. I think its just about anybody's got a shot. Mm-hmm.
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Mm-hmm. ah You know, I think the transfer portal obviously has evened things out a little bit. um Recruiting all the four- and five-star athletes at the SEC schools were used to doing since those guys. And, you know, now it seems like it's how you do in the portal.
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You get the proven athletes, the proven players. That seems to, right now, seems to be the way to go unless they ever change that transfer portal. They should ever change that. but that's And the Indiana has shown that's how you do it. um I think that's one of the reasons Georgia, I saw something today well, it was Paul Feinbaum's show.
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ah um And they were talking to a, it might been one the It was one of the national sports writers, and he was saying how um Georgia is staying with trying to focus still on primarily recruiting in in good players. And, you know, they have ah and they believe, still believe, that that's the way that's the way forward to it.
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your recruiting class and building on that and supplement with the transfer portal. So we'll see if that, if that works. Um, they next year have a lot of three year players and they've stuck with their system. have a lot three year players in their system. So next year might be a good way to tell if this transfer portal system that Indiana has excelled at is going to continue, can continue. Or if, um, or if, uh,
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Or if if guys like Georgia, and my my goodness, i heard his name has s slipped my mind, but... ah Kirby Smart.
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Kirby Smart, thank you. Kirby Smart's system, who he's he's dedicated to, is is's going to step forward again, or if if not. So we'll see. It'll be interesting to see what Indiana does from
Indiana's Future as a Top Contender
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here on out.
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You know, they're losing their... ah They're losing their Heisman Trophy winning quarterback. they Just see if they can continue. And I think they will be able to continue ah being one of the top tens in the Big Ten. We'll see if they can continue being a national championship contender. You know, since Kirby Smart, you know, is dedicated to the to recruiting, that seems to be Dabo Sweeney's. we We may talk about him later, I think, Don. Double Sweeney's what he's he's still doing. He's still focusing on the recruiting, building a culture instead of trying to utilize the transfer portal like some of the other coaches do.
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and And, you know, and and I think the different teams, it's not so much using the transfer portal. It's what they get in that transfer portal because you look at a team like Purdue.
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you know They pretty much, their entire team almost came out of the transfer portal. I think they had to get like something like 40 or 45 players to all out of the transfer portal.
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And you saw where their record was at. It was on the toilet. right um I think it's just a matter of which guys you get. And I think there are some guys like Sweeney and like and even, to a certain extent, Brett Bielman, Illinois, and a couple others who...
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they still want to get those high school kids, the four, the three, four, five-star kids, because those are the kids you develop that are, may not become the stars, but they're your backups.
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They're the guys that are better there to, in case you don't get something out of portal, you've got these guys that have been there that know the system, that know what they're doing. I know in Illinois' case, you know, they they their entire defensive backfield, for the most part,
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were kids that came through that system. i think there were maybe one or two transfers, um you know, and the same with that and their entire back running backs, the the field of three running backs. All of them came out of the high school ranks and and I think all three of came out of Illinois um or at least two of them did anyway. ah But it's it's so I think I think there is some validity to making sure that you still get that good mix because just trying to go out of the transfer portal i don't i don't think and this is just me talking i don't think that's sustainable uh because at some point in time um you know you're gonna end up you're gonna end up being produced where you're bringing in 40 and 50 players that have no idea what your system is well no idea do what your system is now so a lot of that would depend on donald their how much they can, the NILs, how much their program, how much they can pay and what kind of players they can bring in through the portal.
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So I have no idea what- I'm sorry. Yeah, I have no idea what Purdue's NIL program is, if it's competitive or not. And we know some of the schools have a,
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really competitive NIL programs really know how to, how to pay their players and things like that. So I don't know. it could be, I'm kind of with you on that. It's not sustainable.
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um You know, when you're bringing players in and out year after year, well you know, you know, you got 30 players transferring out, bring in 30 players coming in, you know, so it's, I don't see. And I think most the coaches don't like it either. So it's, it's,
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Well, I think that's where your group of five schools are starting to starting to make the headway is, you know, some of these kids that are being displaced or displaced because of the transfer portal, you know, they're going to the Louisvilles, the Cincinnati's, the, you know, um James Madison places.
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Places like that. you know and And I think you're also seeing it. They're going to ah ah teams out of the out of the ACC, out of the Big 12. I think for the most part, what you're seeing is, and this may bode very well for the rebirth of the Pac-12, if you stop and think about it.
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um You know, if that conference gets going like it's supposed to next year and they can add a couple more teams and they can start getting transfers in that that are upset with their playing time at the big boys or trying to move that next level up because you've got both cases going with that transfer portal, you know, that could put them back into a, I don't, it'll it'll take time. I don't think it'll happen right away, but it could put, could put them back into a, um, um, Oh, what we call the, the, the,
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no, I hate when my mind draws blank like this. It doesn't make it for good airtime. Um, uh, power five. It could, could rebirth them back into a power five situation.
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um But I don't know. i mean, I'm like you. is it But we got to give hats off to Indiana. um You know, they showed up, they played the game, and they and they did what they had to do.
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So like we've been talking about it. Let's go ahead and get to the transfer portal. We've already got into it
Structured Transfer Rules Proposal by Sweeney
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somewhat. Interesting comment from Dabo Sweeney.
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And I sent it to you earlier ah where he said, And I'm trying to find a quote here. Well, actually, people think before that, but I didn't realize. um
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in his In his comment, he said, we have athletic directors that are firing coaches in the middle of the season because they feel pressed to get ahead of this calendar.
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And he's referring to the transfer portal calendar. Yeah. And he said the one but one way that he thought of, and i i say like said yeah I think you and I both agree with this, ah but he's about the calendar that's forcing people into decisions that aren't the best for players.
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He said 30 teams made changes at the helm this season alone. And so that, you know, you've got 30 different coaches leaving. so now you've got 30 programs where kids are gonna you know they're gonna transfer you know there's our kids are gonna transfer out of those programs because that their coach is gone you know and now some of them you know pre pre-dated the coach leaving but um but the transfer portal itself with all these kids getting immediate and this is the one thing i think he's in his little comment um that uh
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and he let me please say he's gonna pride the The thought is he's actually going to be dabbing his toes a little more into the transfer portal as it is. right But he said that basically his idea to fix the transfer portal is kind of basically in three parts.
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And the first part is that you get one transfer. That's it. One free transfer where you can play right away.
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Kids who have coaches leaving get a free transfer. They can play right away. And those kids who have graduated after four years get a free transfer if they want to play that fifth season.
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And then he said, everybody else has to wait a year if they want to transfer. Mm-hmm. So you get your transfer once. If you want to transfer again, you've got to sit out a year after. So basically, going to be at that school two years.
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i mean we call You know, you've got to sit out year, then you can play. And to me, I think that's a fantastic idea because we know the NIL system is not going to get fixed anytime soon. And i mean, there they still, it's still the Wild West out there, even though now they've they've tried to take the um outside influences away it's still the wild west because you still have boosters that are throwing money at the school now the boosters aren't paying the and and you still got agents that are you and that's one thing Sweeney talked about too is that it's also going to cut down on agents coming back every year and saying I want more money for my kid or he's going to transfer right and it also cuts down on like what could have happened to Illinois this year what happened with with uh Georgia and Carson Beck is going out. I mean, good Illinois, when when well the season finished last year, there were teams that actively contacted, even though they shouldn't have, they actively contacted
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um Luke Altmaier to see if he was going transfer. m yeah and And actually, Tennessee was one of them. that's That's been documented. And, you know, Sweeney calls this basically cheating, which, you know, or he didn't say cheating, um um meddling or stampering. That's what you already used.
00:21:47
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Do you think if they if we do something like that, would that, I mean, I think it would definitely limit, make kids think, number one, that you only get the one free transfer.
00:21:59
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So make sure you use it right. And then the second part of that is, If you know that kid's already used his transfer up and you're going have to wait a year to get him, you're not going to go after him.
00:22:12
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Yeah, if you need help right away. That's right. If you need help right away. Yeah. yeah What do you think? Yeah. Sweeney's, ah you know, idea kind of goes back the way it was before.
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the transfer portals came into existence and the way they are now and before NILs. But he did add a couple of caveats to it where everyone gets one free transfer.
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Then after that, you you go to one. You have to sit out a year. So I mean, he has adjusted a little bit. But I think he's saying why a lot of coaches are thinking and why a lot of coaches would like to see happen. Because I can tell you,
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um you know just following Mizzou. ah
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Drinkwitz, he had to replace his whole defense this year. ah know Some people graduated, ran out of eligibility and things like that, but lot but a lot of them transferred out, probably got better deals or something like that. So he had to go back and raid, and so he's going to have a whole new defense. I mean, about every position is going to be new this year. I forgot. And I think they – team-wise is like 28 players they're bringing in. So, and I know he doesn't like it.
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He
Coaches' Concerns on Transfer Portal Impact
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doesn't like it. He has expressed his concern about it and he has said we got to get control So Sweeney may be the hero for all the coaches right now in the NCAA. The thing is, I just don't know, Don, if you know it's court tested, what the courts would say. Someone will take it to court. mean Someone will try to challenge it and stuff like that. So especially the players and maybe they their agents or the people who are whispering in their ears, whatever, might challenge something like that. itll be and It would be nice to see them do that and and and even if it worked out. But we'll just have to see, i guess.
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I mean, like I said, i don't I don't think they're going to mess with this anytime soon, although I'd love to see it. I mean, they they've they've actually done a lot by cutting football down to just one window.
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Because before you had the two windows. You had after the regular season ended until the first bowl game.
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and then you had after January 1st, the portal opened up again. I mean, the first was like 15 day portal and the second was like 45 day portal. And they said, okay, yeah, no, we're going to do it. And, you know, I think i some people have had the idea on the NIL that if you get a contract, that these contracts should be two to four years, depending.
00:25:08
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And that if a so student or an athlete, I should say, student athlete, if he leaves before his contract is up, he forfeits the contract.
00:25:19
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Because what you what the Nebraska coach rule. Yeah, Matt rule. Matt rule. he He was making the point, he says, Nebraska plays pays its players from June to June.
00:25:38
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And he said, if a kid transfers out in January, leave school. He's still being paid by Nebraska to go to school somewhere else. Yeah.
00:25:48
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yeah Right. don't know how many other schools are doing it that way. um You know, but, and that might be why you're seeing a lot of these transfers. Kids are, du you know, kids are doubled up and their agents are saying no. and And I'll tell you what, I don't think it's so much the kids that and I think is the agents that are pushing all these, you know, cause they're, they're going to make their money.
00:26:11
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I mean, you're going to get there 15, 20, 25, whatever the percentage is that they make on the kid. um You know, and it i didn said it's it's kind of opened up college football into a free agent market rather than college athletics like we know it.
00:26:30
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Right. Exactly. Exactly. you know and And I saw somebody, and when I can't remember when I saw this, the other day it was the other the other day one day I saw this, um that somebody said that. They made the comment that um the transfer portal, or the NIL, and the transfer portal itself has um basically, it's no longer college it's no longer college sports.
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It's now um
00:27:06
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an extra level of the minor leagues for like the and NBA. And the NBA has already got two different. They got the D League and the G League. um You know, I don't know why they need, you know college athletics to be another another league for them.
00:27:26
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uh, development, mean, uh, and then you've got football now football. I'll so i'll say football does not have much in the way of minor leagues. They don't know. Yeah. No, I mean, you know I mean, I guess technically you could say the XFL or the USA or whatever the, whatever the done non but denomination is now, you know, that that's that the spring league that that can be considered a, um, um,
00:27:53
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a minor league if you will although don't tell the players that i'll tell you that some of those guys have you guys gotta hurt you uh but uh but yeah i mean
00:28:06
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don't people i've heard i heard just many years ago that people said this was going to be the natural progression of college athletics that eventually it was going to just to become another um minor league of the pros in all sports and i i hate to say it but it i if something doesn't change that's where we're headed oh yeah yeah yeah i mean because i i just i just i think the other thing too on um on nil money and transfer portal
00:28:46
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I think another thing might help is if they actually started enforcing educational standards on both of them. In other words, you have to pass and not basket weaving. You actually actually actually have to pass a certain percentage of classes that are, i don't know, you want to call them core, you want to call them essential, whatever.
00:29:11
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to be able to transfer out. If you don't pass those classes, you don't transfer out. If you don't pass those classes, you don't get your money. Right. I think that would cur curb a lot of this myself.
00:29:24
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I mean, yeah. I don't even know what the academics are on this anymore, Don. I mean, these guys transferred around like it is. I know that so many classes that athletes take now are online. And, you know, I'm not of the generation that relates to online classes. i you know My classes were all in person. So, uh, but they apparently, they, you know, the online classes is what, what is some of the, ah I've heard, I don't know, but that some of these guys never step on campus now. So I, you know, well, and and they've all got, I mean, they've always had for, for many, many years that as I, as long as I've known following college sports, they, you know, that every team's got tutors, you know, that help out with certain subjects and certain players and stuff like that. So, you know, that's always been ah something there, but, You know, you just have to, i don't know.
00:30:19
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i'd look It's kind of like it's kind of like with the olymp with having pro players in the Olympics. It's just kind of taking the fun out of the Olympics. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but then again, all the other countries are doing it, we might as well join the join the fun, you know. Exactly.
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you So we are back, and we're going to talk the coaching carousel in football. And I just looked this up, and this is a crazy number.
00:35:06
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In the last three coaching cycles in the NCAA football, there have been 93 head coaches change jobs.
00:35:18
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o That's an average of about 31 jobs a year. Coaches change. Now there's only 136 teams in So, wow. that i didn't i I didn't expect that number. That's that's a crazy number to me.
00:35:37
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Yeah. Some of the ones we've got, of course, we've talked about some of these already. you know Lane Kiffin leaving Ole Miss. Pete Golden taking over there. um Deshaun Foster is now gone at UCLA. Bob Chesney has taken over that um program coming from James Madison.
00:36:00
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Of course, we talked about James Franklin at Virginia Tech.
00:36:06
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Yeah. Here's one um thing we've we've we've we've touched on, it but don't think we've talked a lot about it. And that's
00:36:15
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yeah Eric Morris taking over for Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State. easy He's coming from North Texas.
00:36:26
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um And he's a former Mike Leach protege. So he's a quarterback coach. Right.
00:36:38
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Now, and and it' something he's had some over the last few years. They've noticed they note Cam Ward, John Matier, and Drew Mestemaker as, you know, I guess students of his when he was a quarterback coach.
00:36:56
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So what do you think about it? You think that's enough to revive the ah the Oklahoma State program over there? Well, I don't know. You know, these guys moving around from a from a from a smaller program or a mid-major, I guess North Texas would be considered that up into the Big 12. I mean, who knows? I mean, he appears to have the credentials. If he's a Mike Leach protege and if he's an offensive-minded coach, that's – He appears to have had the credentials there. It's hard to predict on that because I don't know a lot about Eric Morris.
00:37:34
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Oklahoma State has fairly high standards, so he's going to have to – they're not just wanting to go 6-6 or 7-5. They're going to want to be one of the powers in the Big 12. You know, they're going to – Maybe a minimum of nine wins a year. They'll hopefully get 10. So there's going to lot on that guy that when he moves moves to that program. CBSSports.com rates it as an A- minus higher. Okay. so I want to go back to the UCLA thing because I just realized this.
00:38:08
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Bob Chesney is the coach that took over James Madison after Kurt Cinginetti left for Indiana. ah um And in the two years he had that program, he went 20 and four.
00:38:21
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the Now we've already seen Sinjinetti come from um the group of five and make it big and in the, in the, in the power four.
00:38:33
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um You think Chesney can follow suit with this at UCLA? I mean, they're, they're a program that I watched him play a couple of times this year. And i think once when Foster was coaching and once after they fired Foster, I think they fired Foster in the middle of the season. We're actually only about three games in.
00:38:52
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And later in the season, they did look a little bit more like a power five or power four football team. um But, you know, and can another Big Ten team strike gold coming out of coming out of the James Madison?
00:39:12
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Well, it could be. Don, I have a, I have a, you know, I tend to think that UCLA, it's been since the 70s, since they were maybe the early 80s or something, since they were significant in their conference. ah But then, of course, with what would we say about Indiana? So Rick Neuhausel, who is a
00:39:43
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He coached at UCLA, he coached at Colorado, he coached in Washington. his His take on that, and it's the facilities, amount of money they're spending there at UCLA, they're just not doing what they need to do to stay competitive with the Oregon's of the world or the Washington's of the world. So, ah you know, that's why I'm a little, I have reservations about that. But at the same time, this guy coming over from James Madison, I'm sure he checked all that out and checked the boxes on that. So hey he feels like he can do something there that the other coaches haven't been able to you know.
00:40:23
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So I don't know. a lot I would tend to have reservations about someone turning UCLA around very quickly. But once again, we can always look back at Indiana and see what happened there. That's what was going to say. He's got a good example to follow in Sinjinetti. I won't go that much. Now, of course, Sinjinetti did a lot of that, though, by bringing 19 players over in his first year from James Madison.
00:40:51
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that wanted to step up their game and improve. So we'll see how that works. um Oh, this one, don't think we've talked about much. I don't think we, I'm not sure who you mentioned it. might, they might not have done anything since, but the Matt taking over Penn state from he comes from Iowa state. So it's not a huge jump conference wise.
00:41:13
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Um, ah because Iowa state was been kind of ah a top program in the big 12 and he's kind of getting into, well, this, what was this year, a a mid-level program in the big 10. So, you know, not necessarily a hundred, a big, huge jump, but it's a big jump, no matter how you look at it to take over a program like Penn state.
00:41:34
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um And, you know, he's going to have a lot of high expectations when he comes in, I think, because, you know, the, it wasn't that the,
00:41:45
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Penn State wasn't happy with the way Franklin was winning. He just wasn't winning the way they wanted him to. He couldn't beat the Michigans, the Ohio States, and later and and Indiana the last couple years. And this year, he was even having trouble beating some of the other teams. i think Because I think the players just kind of lost lost ah confidence in him, if you want to be honest.
00:42:11
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um and he had a lot of defections from that program before he got fired. A lot of kids that were already talking about transferring before he got where you got let go. um you know Campbell coming in, he's a proven coach. He's he's ah he's been around the block time or two, um and you know they've they've been in two Big 12 title games in the last 10 years.
00:42:34
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um you know So can he be the guy that – brings me brings Penn state to a a big 10 title game. i don't know And that's the other thing. I don't think the fans or the administration would be upset.
00:42:49
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It would have been upset with Franklin, not beating Ohio state or Michigan. If he could have just made it to a big 10 championship game. o Right. Right. Well, he, he had the unfortunate experience of, of being there the same um You know, when Michigan was at their peak, when Ohio State was at their peak. Of course, then Indiana came on late later. You know, ah i think Matt Campbell could do a good job there, but it is a big step up for him because at Iowa State, I don't know what – they're probably averaging 50 –
00:43:28
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best 50,000 of game there. You go to Penn State, was that mean, something like it's yeah.
00:43:39
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Yeah. I mean, that's a, but that's a huge jump in the money that they have there and things like that. The expectations, like you said, will be pretty high. Uh, he's going to, you know, it might be his first year or two. He may be there patient with them, but eventually they're wanting him to compete with the Ohio States and, uh, the Michigans. And like you said, getting in the big 12, getting a big 10 championship game, uh, shoot, uh,
00:44:06
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Franklin, he got them to the, what, last year? Weren't they in the semifinals of the NCAA playoffs? He did get them to the playoffs last year. I mean, ah yeah, i think they got one of the lies, I think.
00:44:19
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Did they make as far as the semifinals last year? Yeah, well, they ah or no, he didn't get it. Yeah, yeah idea they they they got the semifinals, I think. Or, no, they got the quarterfinals.
00:44:31
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Did they? Yeah. Okay. So they only made it past the first round. And and I'm not even sure. I want to say they – I could be wrong, I thought they had a bye. Maybe they didn't. um But, yeah, I mean, and that's the thing. i mean you would have thought – and and like I think that's what what was his saving grace last year because there was talk about firing him last year. You know, hit hit him and no Ron Day, the coach at – Day, the coach at the Ohio State, had the same problem last year. If they hadn't made the playoffs, they probably wouldn't have been coaching.
00:45:02
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Right. They'd have been fired last year if they didn't make the playoffs. Yeah. You know, I mean, heck, he you know Ryan made the playoffs and he still wanted to fire him. So, you know, it tells you how tough it is at Ohio State.
00:45:16
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um why This one is is interesting to me. Pat Fitzgerald, of course, fired from Northwestern.
00:45:26
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Did a great job at Northwestern until he got caught up in in a hazing and sex scandal and all that. Mm-hmm. And he's going to take over a Michigan State program that, if to be brutally honest, hasn't been relevant for years.
00:45:46
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You know, I just, you know CBS gives it a B. And I guess if you go in by X's and O's, it probably is. But perception wise, I mean, i don't know.
00:46:00
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What do you think? Well, I don't know if Pat Fitzgerald seemed like a odd hire to me, not because he hadn't had some success at Northwestern, but he did. ah But he had, it seemed like he was fading there.
00:46:15
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You know, he'd been there a long time. And I'm not sure what he brings that gives them confidence to get Michigan State back into the top tier of the Big Ten. Yeah.
00:46:27
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Yeah, so I'm not all that sure. And you're the Big Ten expert. You follow this closer than I do. Yeah, but i um it befuddled me. It really did. me I thought Michigan State would go after somebody.
00:46:40
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If they were going to go after somebody to change the program, I was I was thinking they would probably go after an up and coming coordinator, um you know, somebody that's that's.
00:46:53
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got the the notoriety that kids are looking for. And like said, I just don't know how many kids, and for quite frankly, how many parents are going to look at and say, hey, Pat Fitzgerald's who I want my kid to play for.
00:47:05
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Right, right. I mean, the same thing, because it's the same thing that happened to, in my mind, the same thing, not to the degree, but the same thing that happened to Paterno at Penn State.
00:47:16
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o You know, when he had his assistant coaches and and all that happened and you know, he fell out of favor quick and nobody wanted to play at Penn state and that, that, uh, know, I just, I don't know that to me, that is probably the, the, one of the strangest hires, um, outside of, of, uh, uh, Sean Moore being hired at Michigan when he got, talking about strange.
00:47:42
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Um, but a couple others I want to get, get to real quick here is, um, Oh, where'd he go? I think we've talked about this before, but I think it deserves mentioning again is ah Florida.
00:47:58
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With Napier being replaced by he i just had him here.
00:48:05
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where'd he go? Oh, Summerall. John Summerall. John Summerall. I don't know. I mean, yeah Hugh Freeze and Billy Napier have been the whipping boys for the last two or three years yeah of, you know, you which one was going to get hired for or fired first. um yeah But they go and they take Summerall from, who would he coach? so Southern Miss, I think, that he coached.
00:48:33
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No, it was Tulane. thank you Now, Tulane, for their part, they made the playoffs this year. a lot of people said they shouldn't, but they made the playoffs this year. um So they there there is that.
00:48:47
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But I don't know. I mean, is Florida explored a good enough to where they can they they they don't have to hire a name to get somewhere?
00:49:02
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Well, they it's you know typically Florida in recruits well. Even Billy Napier recruited well. the other quote coaches who have been there and fall on their face usually can recruit well to florida to gamesville it's it's that it just seems like turning in and around there i've heard that there's a lot of political issues in the uh in the florida athletic department it's hard to please people there's expectations are so high i mean their big success was steve spurrier and uh
00:49:37
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urban, um you know, really, they're the two big successes there. But before them and after them, there just really hasn't been that much. They've gone through coaches. And so I, I'm not sure some are all sounds good. Sounds like he's got a good background. But so did Billy Napier.
00:49:58
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And some of the other coaches that they've hired that it didn't work out. So it seems like they come in, they make a little noise at first at Florida, then they kind of fade. So, i you know, I would, ah you know, I approach any of these new coaching hires as, at best, as cautiously optimistic. I don't know. What did CBS give the grade on that one, Don? Let's see.
00:50:28
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I think it's like a – B minus or C. Really? C
Florida's Coaching Struggles in Football
00:50:34
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plus. Here it is. Oh, I'm wrong. Wow. Boy, am I wrong.
00:50:38
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They gave it an A. An A. Okay. they so most of that most of ah ah Most of the feedback I've heard, Don, they thought it was a good hire. But, yeah you know, like I said, they've had people come there with high expectations and feedback fade out before. so just they the though the breakdown that CBS gives it is John says Summerall has been a coach for four years, in and in each season he's led a program to a conference championship game.
00:51:11
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He's never won less than nine games in ah in his career, or a season in his career. And they said he is one of the more intense and passionate coaches in the country and will be a stark, or will be stark in the transfer portal.
00:51:27
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Hmm. only if those either It will be a shock in the transfer portal. So ah they that they he must know how to work the system pretty good. but We'll see what happens.
00:51:37
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We'll see what happens. Of course, Napier didn't go without a job. He ended up at UC. i He's going back to takes over take over James Madison.
00:51:50
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James Madison. okay yeah Okay. He's going over to take over James Madison. ah The last one i want to look at is Michigan. Sharon Moore, of course, got fired, which everybody kind of figured he would.
00:52:06
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ah And replaced by Kyle Whittingham, who who's an assistant there. um I don't know. This is the second time they've gone with an assistant.
00:52:20
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Well, Whittingham was the head coach at BYU. Oh, that's right. I'm sorry. yeah they dont they don't have They don't have him here as ah as the BYU coach. That's interesting. um thissa seems long time He was a long time. Yeah, he was. yeah Oh, there it is.
00:52:37
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No, not BYU, Utah.
00:52:41
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Kyle Winningham? No, I'm pretty sure it's BYU, Don. I'm here saying Utah. That's all I can do. He will have a blueprint. He won three conference titles and eight 10-win seasons at Utah.
00:52:54
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Huh. Well, maybe I haven't. Let me look at, let me pull up my. Cause I'm not sure. i Yeah. Okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. I, for some reason I had BYU on my mind. i don't know was i yeah i you I thought he was an assistant coach. So, you know, we're both, we're both kind of off on that one. But, but, you know, I mean, I think bringing in somebody that is.
00:53:19
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um Experienced now that I realized he's experienced, he's an experienced coach. Uh, and has some, and has some cred to bring with it. Um, you know, he's Utah's, they haven't, they haven't won, um, much, you know they got the three conference titles.
00:53:37
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They just haven't been able to put much into the, into the post season, if you will, with the new playoff system and all that. Uh, so he's going to a program that's got that ability. That's got the money. That's got the facilities. Like you said earlier,
00:53:52
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um I think I, I, CBS gives it an a, and I think they're one hundred percent right on, I think Michigan, i don't think he may, we're going to see them jump right away into, um, making it the big two or big two, I guess be a big, two little 16. I don't know. It used to be the big, two little eight, uh, when it was Ohio state, Michigan and everybody else. Yeah. Now you got Oregon to throw in the mix Cincinnati or, uh, Indiana's in the mix now.
00:54:21
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Um, You Illinois is up and coming. ah Washington's up and coming.
00:54:28
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You know, ah he's got he's got a job but he's got a job cut out for himself. um But we'll see what happens if with there. I mean, you know, you you've got to yeah to also think that the reason, another reason they probably cut Sharon Moore is they wanted to get rid of all um references to Jim Harbaugh, especially after this season.
00:54:49
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Yeah, Harbaugh has a 10-year show cause on them. And, yeah, I think they wanted a clean house. They could have hired other other coaches who were – who had a Harbaugh connection that maybe they would have – but they just didn't want to – they didn't want to go do that, so they wouldn't. Got Kyle Whittingham. It was an interesting hire. it surprised me that that's the way they went. But, you know, he's a steady coach. He's won. He won quite a few games at Utah. You know, see what he does with the with the bigger ah bigger, more money, but more fans. He's going to, you know.
00:55:29
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That's definitely is a hundred thousand a game.
Nebraska's Unbeaten Basketball Streak
00:55:32
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Yeah. Yeah. Michigan. So, I mean, it so I don't know what Utah holds, but it surely it sure as heck ain't a hundred thousand. I don't think so. No, I don't think it holds that much. So, you know, I, have yeah.
00:55:45
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Yeah. It's an interesting hire. So ah we'll get a, just in a few short minutes, we got left. Basketball is now in its, in its ah pretty, pretty well entrenched into its season. Yeah.
00:55:58
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And there are some teams that are still walking around. Nebraska is probably the surprise of everybody. Still undefeated at this point and at this point in time.
00:56:09
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um at least the last I saw, I think they're still undefeated.
Top College Basketball Teams Rankings
00:56:15
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I know they're undefeated in the Big Ten. um But then you've also got Arizona
00:56:23
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out there. you know um making their claim, they're still considered, I think they're still ranked number one. ah Yeah, Nebraska is 20-0, 9-0 into Big Ten. Arizona is 21-0, 8-0 into Big 12. Those are your top two teams that everybody's talking about.
00:56:44
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um and Illinois just come off a really big win. They took down and Purdue um and took down the number four team in the nation in Purdue.
00:56:55
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Um, I'm looking for the, so I'm looking for the SEC right now here. I'm going to get to them. There's more conferences and when you start doing basketball, you know, well, in the SEC, I can tell you right now, they're not very, I don't think there's a SEC team in the top 10 right now. Uh, as good as they were last year and as dominant almost as they were this year. Yeah. talking I'm sorry. Go ahead.
00:57:20
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Well, um they're still trying to find who that team's going to be. Um, I don't know. Some say it'll be Arkansas because they're playing pretty well. But like i said, none of those teams, Alabama and Florida, they're not in the top 10 right now. They're both, they're both, they're both struggling a bit. So, you know, they've, last year, I believe the big, the SEC got 12 teams in the tournament.
00:57:49
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I don't think they think that'll happen this year. Yeah. Yeah, you're 100% right on the – there is not a SEC – the highest-ranked SEC team is Arkansas at number 15. They're fifteen and five and I guess they're playing right now, and Oklahoma right now is ahead forty-eight to forty-four in that game. Okay. um And then Vanderbilt is next, number 18. They're 17-3.
00:58:22
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Florida's at 19.
00:58:26
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Alabama's at 23. And that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're struggling to keep, I mean, they just don't, they these teams aren't as dominant as they were. They lost a lot of talent last year after the season was over with a lot of people.
00:58:47
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A lot of people, uh, A lot of people, they had lot they they lost a lot players, and they're just trying to rebuild, basically, or retool. Retool, yeah, you will, yeah. <unk> They've had some losses and stuff like that outside the conference, so they weren't dominant outside the conference particularly either. So it's – I don't know if any of them will be a top-10 team. Maybe – I'm thinking maybe Arkansas before the season's over.
00:59:13
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Yeah. ah You know, Saturday was very – I was watching basketball Saturday because ill cause Illinois played Saturday. um There were, i think, if I remember right, refreshmen in the NCAA that put up 40 points or more in a game on Saturday.
00:59:32
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Yeah. Um, one of course was, is, uh, uh, Keaton Wagler for a Wagler, I should say for a university of Illinois, I think. And, um, the other one was, uh, I can't remember who the two were right off top of my head now, uh, but we had three and then there was another guy, uh, uh, they called him the oldest senior. I guess he's like in his mid twenties or oldest freshman. He's in in mid twenties and just now in college.
00:59:57
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um He put up 39 or something like that. So there's a lot there's a lot of kids that are scoring nowadays. So I think probably between now and and our next show, want to try and put together a list of what my top freshmen are, and we'll kind of go over that list. But, I mean, are you surprised with the with the with the with all the influx we've seen in football with the transfer portal?
01:00:26
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oh um
01:00:30
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i haven't really seen that much effect realistically in basketball i don't know what arizona did uh as far as bringing kids from the transfer portal um but you've got ah the top just to go quickly the top 10 arizona's one uconn is number two michigan is three Duke is four. Nebraska's five. Gonzaga's six.
01:00:55
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Michigan State is seven. Iowa State is eight. Illinois is nine. And Houston's number 10. um And you've got a couple of those guys playing. Nebraska's playing Michigan tonight. That game, Nebraska's up by two in that game.
01:01:12
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um i mean, it's it's kind of interesting.
01:01:19
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Like you said, there's just it's just kind of the same old guys. Yeah, yeah. You know? I mean, outside because Arizona's always had a strong team. UConn's always been strong. Michigan. Now, Duke had a couple of years there where they were kind of off in the Ned Cooper flag last year.
01:01:38
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And Nebraska's really the only team that that's kind of defying the logic here. Yeah, they are. That is the logic. I was stunned to see that they are. still doing doing so well i when the Big 8, Big 12 days in Nebraska just wasn't anything in basketball. And so all of a sudden, and and for several years in the Big 10, I don't think they were ah much of a player. Now, of a sudden, they've come on strong. I had no idea if they'd done that just through recruiting or they hit the transfer portal right or what. so i it is i'm I'm not as up on Nebraska as I should have. I think they had a couple they've got a couple of transfers in. But, you know, therere one big thing for Nebraska is a kid that was out all of last year. His last name is Rink, I think. if of His last name is Rink or Rink. I'm going to pull it up here real quick.
01:02:33
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Oh, Rink Mofft. that's his name rink mast uh he was out last year um he's a 6 10 senior and i'll tell you that the kid can play he's a really really uh um good kid uh big big on the boards he's uh he can shoot and he can even shoot the three and at 6 10 250 you got a guy that shoot the three you got a player i'll tell you that wow so but uh but yeah so i mean they've been a surprise um but uh
01:03:05
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you know We'll see how it goes along. I i don't think they'll go undefeated. I think i don't think Arizona's going to go undefeated. But the question's going to be who's going to beat them.
01:03:16
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Right. Exactly. i think that's about all we're going to have for tonight, Russ. We're kind of hitting the hour limit here. So if you want to tell people where we can find you,
01:03:28
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Well, on X, I'm Uncle Frank, FR Robinson, one nine five seven. I'm Blue Sky. I'm Russ 57. And then I'm floating around from the Mizzou fan Facebook group. So that's the easiest way to find me. OK, well, you can always find me ah on X at TSOTB GCS. You can look me up at the Champagne Room. And that is and I've been failing to mention this, but that's Champagne the City, not Champagne the Drink. okay yeah
01:04:00
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you go to champit You go to the champagne room using the drink spelling. You may not, you know, I'm not, that you may not find college sports or on Sam, but find me the champagne room. I do some articles there and I've done a few couple of podcasts on their OSCE talk.
01:04:16
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ah You can also find me at my other show, which will get back on the road we'll get back on the airings of that show here pretty soon, Talking Sports with Uncle Don. And you can always find me and Russ. He can he writes every now and again. You can find him.
01:04:32
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01:05:16
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All right. Well, from my partner, Russ Robinson, this is Don Glenn. And I wish you all to have fun, stay safe. We'll talk to you next time on the NCAA Report with Don and Russ.
01:05:30
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Good night, everybody.