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NCAA Week 7 and coaches on the hot seat.
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A look at the past week's upsets. This weeks' games, who can stay unbeaten, and coaches on the hot seat.
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Introduction to the NCAA report
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Well, welcome to the NCAA report with Don and Russ. This is Don Glenn, your host, along with my partner from the man from Missouri with all the SEC knowledge that I need to know, which is not a whole lot.
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Week 4 Recap: Surprises and Standouts
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all right well last time we talked was uh we're getting ready for week four of the ncaa football season and you know there really wasn't a whole lot in week four um especially as an illinois fan i'm trying to forget week four um yeah ah yeah you know i mean there wasn't a whole lot that really surprised anybody um
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and I think the only other technical upset, or the only the only technical upset, if you will, was Texas Tech beating Utah. They were 17, Utah 16. 34 to 10.
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But mostly everything else went pretty much as ah as what people have thought it would do. Yeah. you know except for the Illinois game. You know you and I both thought Illinois actually had a shot at winning that game. and They lose 63 to 10.
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ah That was not a good look. um So, you know, week four was just kind of ah of of ah of a, yeah who cares week. ah Week five, however, there was a ton of upsets. I know you probably watched some of games. I watched a couple, three of them here and there.
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um And I think the first one I want to talk about is um I got it written down in my notes here was the Alabama, Georgia game.
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ah Yeah. Yeah. yeah um You know, I, I really thought Georgia was going to come away with that game. I really, even they were, even though when they were down in the first half, I thought Georgia would make it because they, they've been doing that all year. They get down and then they make this comeback and they show up and the, and it just never happened. Never materialized.
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I mean, you know, but now by the same token, they did hold Alabama scoreless in the second half. So. Right. Right. Yeah. Georgia has a really good defense, but you know,
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But Kalen DeBork, the talent level in the two teams probably isn't all that much different. And it seems like Kalen DeBork's beginning to put it together. We'll see. You know, he beats Georgia. Then last week he beat – help me out, Don.
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They won again last Did they not? The week before that? Let me –
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Get a quick check. I got to find them. See, Georgia was two weeks ago, and then they played again this weekend. They beat – Oh, this weekend? Yeah, we'll get to this weekend here. But anyway, maybe I'm wrong.
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Maybe I'm wrong about that. But, yeah, he's some people are beginning to think that he's beginning to put it together. i don't know. It's too early, but I think this this upcoming weekend will tell a lot.
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for them. But yeah, but they just, they've got talent. It's just been a matter of them putting it together and maybe that's what we're beginning to see with Alabama now.
Week 5 Highlights: Thrills and Upsets
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Yeah. That could very well be, could very well be.
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ah So then we got ah the next one I wanted to, I wanted to kind of get over was one that actually I, i
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as much as you and I had talked earlier in the season about Penn state, and, you know, they go out to Oregon and ah which is, yeah, Illinois has been out there. It's a tough place to play.
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ah yeah the the the The Ducks have just an outstanding home record and it's a really hostile type environment. um But, you know, they, and, you know, the Ducks didn't really put it on Penn State.
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And it had to go to overtime, but they scored 13 points in overtime against Penn State to take that game 30-24. um I mean, do we – now we'll get into it for because Penn State had a double dose here and on the West Coast. They didn't like, but – um you know that that one That one almost did shock me to an extent,
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um you know not because it went into overtime, but because of the fact that Penn State actually came back on Oregon to force overtime.
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Uh-huh, right, right. So that one that one a little bit surprised me, but then Oregon took care of Bendis in the overtime, winning Atwin They were six. Penn State was number three, ah which dropped Penn State down a little bit in the rankings.
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um Then you had ah one that I was still trying to figure this one out even a couple days, three days after. ah Virginia beating Florida State.
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Yeah, yeah. Now that was at Virginia, but still. Yeah, that was something. And the thought was that Florida State, after they beat Alabama this year, maybe they were on their way back. They were 3-0 going into that game.
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i You know, ah that was a shocker to me because I just never thought Virginia was that good. And I didn't, you know, they haven't had – they have struggled the last few years, seeming like, to be relevant.
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and yet they put it together this year it looks like in florida state you just once again you're wondering what's going on there with mike norvell you know uh who did so well for a while there now he seems to be well struggling if you want to call uh with their three and one now where they were three one after that game after that game yeah yeah but uh it seems like they're struggling now so uh I just wonder what's going on over at the Florida State program.
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you know i I don't know. but yeah That was an upset. That was as big as an upset to me as you could have, even though it was at Virginia. Right. Well, Virginia unranked, and they really hadn't and really hadn't shown that much. I mean, you nobody really had been talking about them.
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I mean, and they were 4-1 after that game, but nobody had been talking about them. And you know to see them come in and just ah you know basically – um And now, again, that's another game that had to go into overtime.
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But, you know, but still, you these – and he's over – one quick thing before we continue.
NCAA Overtime Rules: Excitement and Strategy
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What do you think about how the NCAA does their overtime? Because I bring that up because I was watching the Dallas game the other day on pro football and ended in a tie.
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Because they'll have the one thing of overtime, and if you don't score, you have scores. Yeah. Do you like the way the NCAA does it with the with the the two overtime periods and then it's all and then it's a two-point shootout after that?
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yeah Yeah, it's innovative and it's exciting and it does eliminate the tie possibility, which I think doesn't serve the fans very well. You know, if your team ties a game, I mean, you know.
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what do you What do you do with that? So on um I've always enjoyed the overtime thing. I like it better when my team wins the overtime. well yeah Maybe I don't like it so much when my team loses, but it's an exciting thing to love.
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ah Yeah, no doubt. Well, you know, watching Virginia and Florida State go at it. And last year, Don, Georgia and Georgia Tech went into an overtime battle. And that was fun to watch. Since I didn't have any anything on that, that one you know, any any emotions, too it's fun to watch, you know. Well, there was a game ah a number and a few years ago, right after, I think, right after they changed the fort the formula in the overtime, that it was Illinois and Penn State played nine overtimes.
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Sure, sure. we i Before Illinois finally won that game. and so yeah I kind of like it, too. so um Another big upset. This one didn't go over. This was actually a regulation game.
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Ole Miss over LSU. Yeah, yeah. I mean, if nothing else, this puts Ole Miss on the map. as they I think they're a contender now in the SEC. Well, I think so, too. And Lane Kiffin has really – I would say Lane Kiffin has really grown at Ole Miss. if you I don't know if you know his history there, but he said he went to Tennessee after being offensive coordinator at USC.
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And, you know, and he went there one year, the USC job opened up. Pete Carroll left for the, I guess, what left for the Seahawks. Right. And they hired him to come back after one year at Tennessee. Kind left.
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And it was late. Tennessee was left kind of dangling. But he went over there and did – all right for a while, but then he started struggling. Then he got fired.
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And then he went to Alabama as an offensive coordinator for Nick Saban. didn qua Ended up helping Saban's had some of his best years with ah with ah with Kiffin and then Kiffin went to Central Florida did well there and I said Ole Miss and he's grassy built that up.
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and So I'm quite I'm impressed with what he's doing there at Ole Miss. I mean, you know, it's it's not a traditional SEC power at all. And so he's he's got them in the conversation, you know, for the playoff anyway, he's if not more. So I'd say it's where he's one of the leading contenders right now for an SEC
Lane Kiffin's Impact at Ole Miss
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championship. You've got to take take them into consideration. Kevin's done a wonderful job building that program, I think.
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Oh, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. ah Then there was, well, it was called an upset, in and because, you
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I don't know. And I don't know why it was listed. Well, basically because of the rankings of the two teams, but I didn't think it was going to be an upset. I think I thought they had a chance. That was Illinois USC.
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um That was a college game day game. um so Fox had all their little, had everybody down there and Matt liner, a few others. And, um And, you know, Illinois finally ah played a game that was a complete game. I mean, they scored in every quarter.
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They defense stopped USC a couple times. And and Illinois could have actually... really won that game going away if it hadn't been for two goal line fumbles that they lost.
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Right, right. You know, so you know that that that if nothing that has put Illinois square in the in the headlights, and we'll get to that game here in a cup in ah in a little bit, but square in the headlights coming up this this this weekend. So ah that was an interesting upset.
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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And then the last one I want to is Arizona. It's kind of a mild upset to me, but I think it's still worth mentioning is Arizona over TCU.
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ah TCU had finally made itself, made its way into the top 25 and, you know, things were looking, looking up. They were three and old at the time. Then Arizona, ah you know, they, again, it's, it's one of those games that came back in the second half from being down and, and, and took over the game.
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um you're you're you're the Now, both those guys are not original Big 12 guys. Well, Iowa State.
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I mean, I'm sorry, Arizona. and and Arizona State, TCU. TCU, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. TCU had has established a pretty strong program over there in the last few years.
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So, yeah, I would have called that an upset. And Arizona State just never has consistently put anything up. They occasionally have a good team that put anything up. I can't talk too deeply about Arizona State because I just don't know that much about them. But but TCU is a program that is really quite strong. and and So that was a good that was an impressive upset. Probably hurt TCU more than it helped Arizona State. I don't think Arizona State. Oh, I think so, too. I mean, yeah i mean Arizona State was 4-1 after that game.
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um But, you know, I don't know how much that improves their stock, if you will. ah So moving moving on last week, to last week I mentioned it earlier. I think the big upset here was UCLA over Penn state.
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Oh yeah. You know, now that was, again, that was, ah that was on the West coast and, you know, and I, and I mentioned that because the, when USC was here ah at Illinois, their coach meant, cause that, and that was ah an 11 o'clock kickoff.
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um And, and, Their coach, he didn't go out of his way to mention it, but he made mention of it being a you know the whole time zone cross-country um thing.
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And so and i wonder if Penn State didn't suffer from a little bit that, going Oregon one week, coming back to Penn State, and then going back out to the West Coast. I don't know how much that may have affected them, but they lost that game Right.
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right You know, Penn State did outscore them in the second half, but most of a lot of the damage is done by UCLA in the first half. Oh, yeah, and UCLA working with an interim coach ah that they fired their coach. Yeah, that's that that is a big upset.
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Yeah, and I think you've got a point there.
Penn State's Challenges: Coaching and Reputation
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I think with this Big Ten merger with those Pac-12 schools, ah You know, that's it's not regional anymore. It's not a regional conference anymore.
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Yeah. And crossing time zones, I could see twice. I could see that impacting Penn State. Now, that's put Tony Franklin under the and there' a glare right now because he's always been criticized.
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I'm sorry. Yes, James Franklin. He doesn't win. the big games. no and And this wasn't even really a big game. UCLA was unranked. And maybe maybe there's a little bit of that going in. They lost to Oregon in a tough game that they thought they could come in and just take care of UCLA with an interim coach.
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UCLA surprised them. But, yes, I'd say the cross-country trips going back and forth, that's going to impact some of those teams, Big Ten teams. The farther east they are. Yeah, i think so.
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No doubt. And that was UCLA's first win for this of the season. so Yeah. yeah that makes it ah That makes it a double whammy. Oh, yeah. they yeah Yeah. Then you have Texas getting beat by Florida.
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ah Did Billy Napier save his job with that win or at least put off paper bought off the hot seat for a game or two? Yeah, he probably bought himself another week or two. The way they're firing coaches, Don, you and I have been watching it done in the middle of the season, left and right. You know, Napier was on the ropes.
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And then Texas comes to Florida and he wins that game. Yeah, that's that buys them at least a week, maybe two weeks. Who knows? I don't know what their schedule is ahead. oh That's a big story. And, you know, a story is, you know Texas is now three and two.
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ah They just don't look that good, you know. Yeah. ah They don't look that good. Arch Manning is getting a lot of flack, but I got to tell you, out the game I watched, I didn't see a running attack.
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And I felt like Manning was running around trying to – their offensive line just looks bad. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. a couple games that I've seen him there, it doesn't look like they have a really good protection for, for Manning. And he' I still think he's trying to find his way as a, as a college quarterback.
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Yeah. The expectations are so high and not, not to take, ah not to take the any responsibility off Manning, Arch. Right. He just may not be what he was. I heard – I listened to, you know, so and read a lot of on college football, and there was a discussion on when the sports talk – national sports talk channels I listened to, and they were talking about, well, Arch Manning couldn't beat out a guy last year who ended up being a seventh-round draft pick in the NFL. Right.
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yeah I mean, you know, their quarterback last year, everyone was supposed to be better than Arch, but he wasn't at that. that The NFL didn't come looking for him very hard. And so, so you know, you're wondering if Arch is overrated, but you got to be fair. And the fairness is their offensive line just doesn't look any good. So, I mean, there's a couple of times Arch hit some passes that look but like a Manning wood would play, you know, but – There's a lot of legacy pressure on him more than his uncles had, I think, or his granddad had. I think I remember when Peyton came to Tennessee as a freshman, you know, I don't think he had the expectations that Arch has, you know. Right. So, I mean, like Arch has a lot of expectations like on his shoulders, you
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yeah um I just saw this, speaking of Billy Napier, ah Billy Napier and Ron Roberts earned CBS Coach of the Week honors for October 6th.
Billy Napier's Coaching Evaluation
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Yeah. Well, he deserves it. you know yeah You beat number nine. I guess that i guess that makes ah makes you a good a good coach in everybody's book. I don't know. Yeah. um I just look at it. You mentioned Florida and their schedule, and I just kind of went and took a quick look at it.
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And it don't get any easier for for Billy down there because he's got Texas A&M this week. yeah This week. And then he gets a break with Mississippi State. And then he goes, then they play Georgia at home, Kentucky on the road, Ole Miss on the road, Tennessee at home, and Florida State on the road.
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Yeah. That's, yeah, I don't envy, i don't think he's he's long for Florida after that. Well,
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Yeah, I don't – he's got a lot – yeah, he's got – you know, the SEC schedule is just brutal. It is. so you you get you get past one game, you win one, you get – look, you know, someone else down the road.
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And Mississippi State's not going to be a pushover this year. They're much better team. so So Napier, yeah, he's he's he bought himself a week or two, I'd say, probably, yeah.
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Yeah, probably. ah now he was Excuse me. ah You mentioned Alabama. Yeah, they beat they beat ah Vanderbilt 30-14. I was kind of hoping Vanderbilt would actually fare little better in that game just to kind of you know show the what they're worth. But um looking at some of the other scores from last week,
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um Not much really trip on my, my trigger. mean, well, there, here's one Cincinnati taking down Ohio state or Iowa state, excuse me, i always stayed ah thirty eight to thirty Iowa Iowa state was, came into that game ranked 14th. And there was actually talk that Cincinnati's coach may be on the hot seat.
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Um, right and you know, hey cause it was, they were three and one going into that game. So i don't know why he would be on the hot seat with three wins. I mean, you know, yeah yeah Like you said, the way they're firing coaches anymore.
00:23:00
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you know it just I know. and Sometimes it don't make any sense. I know. Right, right. Yeah. Iowa State, yeah, that was was ah that certainly was a surprise. you If Iowa State was going go down, I wouldn't have picked Cincinnati. I wouldn't have bet that game that they were they'd be taken out. So, yeah ah there are no great teams, Don. I think that's that's the that's what we're coming
Are There Any Dominant NCAA Teams?
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down to.
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Yeah, there's some very good teams, but there are no great teams. I don't I don't see it. I don't see you in a few years ago. We had some great teams, you know, right? There was a Georgia run a couple years ago. There was the Alabama run, you know, Ohio.
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Michigan had a great team. I think there with. for a year or so there, you know, I mean, there were some great teams, but this year, this doesn't seem to be one great team to me. Yeah. And now coming up on, on, on this week's schedule, um, there right now, and I'll, I'll start, I'll, we'll get to that preface that by saying right now, there are 13 unbeaten teams in NCAA.
00:24:02
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yeah yeah You know, um you've got North Texas, Navy, Memphis, Georgia Tech, Miami, Indiana, Ohio State, Oregon, Texas Tech, BYU, UNLV, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M.
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um And i know I know at least one of these teams is going to end up with a loss because Indiana and Oregon play each other. So right at least one of them is going to get knocked out.
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yeah ah back Of that group, do you see, and and i obviously it would probably take too much time to go through everybody's schedule, but off the top of your head, who do you see in that grouping that might go all the way?
00:24:45
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Well, you mean all the way, as far as going undefeated, I don't see. Run the table, so to speak, as they call it You know, let's let's look at, I don't think Oklahoma will run the table. um They're undefeated. They're not undefeated.
00:24:57
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no No, Oklahoma went in it. They're not undefeated. Well, I'm looking at a 5-0 record. Really? i missed it you mean I must have missed them then, so I'm sorry. oh Because Missouri's undefeated, too. right They're 5-0. I'm sorry. I did miss them.
00:25:12
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yeah That gives us 14. Sorry about that. Yeah, just glancing. I would say nobody is going to run the table this year. ah yeah Missouri, ahlthough this will be a big test for but even if they do have beat Alabama, they've got too much ahead of them to go through to go undefeated. I'm just looking I don't know about Ohio State, maybe, but I don't really see Ole Miss, I think, will get beat too.
00:25:36
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ah They may – know, they would they probably could end up in the college football playoff. That be very – I believe that, but I just don't believe that anyone in the SEC can go through undefeated. And, you know, I don't know –
00:25:49
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Indiana, you know, I guess I should have a whole lot more respect for them after what they did to Illinois, but it's hard to see Indiana going and defeat it, but that's just, you know, so. um Especially after last week, they they beat Illinois 63 to 10, and then they barely get by Iowa 20 to 15.
00:26:07
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Yeah, you know, that might have been – I don't know. You know, I just don't know. on i would it was just that was just That was a stunning game against Illinois. i So the yeah Iowa game might have been a more realistic look of what Indiana was. but I think so. Yeah, I don't see – I really don't. and And you know the Big Ten better than I do.
00:26:27
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But I just don't know that I see anyone that can can run the table. Well, I mean, of the three that are in the Big Ten, well, I guess Michigan, well, I think, don't know if they're, well, they're undefeated in in conference, but not in overall.
00:26:41
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um Of the three that are in the Big Ten, um to me, the only the one that may have the, if if they get by this week, ah would probably be I'm going to say probably Oregon because I'm looking at what they've got left. And here's what they've got left after they after the Indiana game.
00:27:04
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they yeah At Rutgers, home against Wisconsin, at Iowa, home against Minnesota, home against USC, and at Washington. um I mean, I'm not going to say that's a cupcake and every one of those games is going to be an easy win.
00:27:19
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But for a team like, like Oregon, when you've only got a couple of games on a road that are even going to be a half a challenge, it's, it's, uh, I just don't, I don't see it. Uh, Ohio state.
00:27:33
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If they get by Illinois, I'm, and I, I say that with somewhat tongue in cheek, although i do think, yeah I do think Illinois can beat them. Um, you know They've still got Penn State, which even though they're down, they're still going to be a rough game.
00:27:49
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um And then they've got Michigan at the end of the year, which is always a that no that's their Super Bowl if anybody goes if nobody goes anywhere. And then Indiana...
00:28:02
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Let's see. After Oregon, they they've got... so yeah It could be either Indiana Oregon to run the table um because neither one of them have any type of ah of a tough, what you you would call tough schedule after...
00:28:18
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um after this after their game this weekend. So one of those two could effectively run the table in the Big Ten. ah Indiana's only real tough game would be Penn State.
00:28:30
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ah Now that would actually be tougher than I thought. it's at That's going to be at Penn State. So that could be a tough game. outside of but Outside of that, anybody else that's going to be... um I mean, you know actually, you know the SEC better than I do. Mm-hmm.
00:28:50
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but I would think Missouri might, I don't know if they can run the table because i don't know what their schedule looks like. Well, they won't run the table. I mean, they don' run there's so there's someone up there that's going to take them out I mean, it's just the SEC just too tough for someone to run the table.
00:29:08
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Oh, yeah. they've got yeah they Well, they got Auburn, Vandy, Texas A&M, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Well, ah yeah know, of course, Arkansas is a new homecoming team that everybody wants. but Even they have a real good offense. They just have crappy defense.
00:29:26
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oh No, all those – either one of those teams that could beat them, right it just yeah just depends. I just don't see a team in the SEC running the table. you know yeah i would be so I would be surprised if if one was able to pull it off.
00:29:41
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NCAA Game Previews: Key Matchups and Predictions
00:33:28
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are back. This is Don Glenn and Russ Robinson with the NCAA Report with Don and Russ.
00:33:35
Speaker
And we were talked about what we what we've witnessed the last two or three weeks. And now we've talked about some undefeated teams. Let's talk about this week's schedule.
00:33:47
Speaker
The first game I think that a lot of people, especially in the Big Ten, are going to be watching is, as we talked about earlier, was Indiana and Oregon. Now, that's going to be in Eugene.
00:33:58
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um And Oregon is a seven-and-a-half-point favorite in that game, and the over-under is 55. um I don't see it being that high scoring of a game considering what, like I said, what happened with Indiana last week when they went to Iowa and only scored 20 points.
00:34:17
Speaker
um Oregon, i think Oregon could put points on the board, but I think Indiana's defense is still fairly tough enough. i I don't know. I'm looking for i'm looking at that game. and I'm going to say I'll give Oregon the game, but I think Indiana covers the spread.
00:34:35
Speaker
And I it'll stay under 55 points. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I would, uh, boy, I'll tell you what I, I said after what Indiana did to Illinois, wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't william short side them anymore, but, uh, it's hard for me to see Indiana going out to the West coast and, and just winning that game.
00:34:55
Speaker
Um, if they keep it close, I'll be impressed. That's just what I think. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. Um, Another one, get another game out of the Big Ten that's going to add.
00:35:07
Speaker
This one, ah as much as the Indiana-Oregon game is going to have some some play, it'll have the definitely playoff implications and or conference title of implications. So will this next game.
00:35:18
Speaker
Illinois at home, number 17 Illinois at home versus number one Ohio State. Yeah. The Ohio State is a 14.5-point favorite, and the over-under is 49.5. I just finished an article for the Champagne Room today, um ah scenario of where I thought I kind of analyzed it. I think this game is going hell of a lot closer than 14.5 points, number one.
00:35:49
Speaker
And I do think Illinois has an opportunity to win, but they're going to have to play – pretty much an immaculate game. um The offensive line is going to have to do what it did against USC and Purdue and open up the holes ah for the Illinois' running game.
00:36:13
Speaker
I think Illinois has the better quarterback of the two. Only pretty much because he's I think he's just more experienced than then Justin Sayan. um i think that's how he pronounce his name.
00:36:26
Speaker
But what really concerns me about the game for Illinois is this is going to be one of the few, with the well, this is going the only defense I think that actually can is as good as what Illinois has.
00:36:40
Speaker
Illinois has got an outstanding defense, and I think Ohio State is just as good, if not better. But it's hard to judge because they really haven't, outside of the first game against Texans, they haven't played anybody.
00:36:52
Speaker
Right. Grambling state, University of Ohio, um Minnesota. And who was the other one?
00:37:03
Speaker
Wisconsin, I think, or something like that. I mean, they really did. There's nothing really to gauge what they are. No, Washington is who they beat. Now, you know, Illinois hasn't had a great schedule.
00:37:15
Speaker
Um, you know, but they did, they did play Duke. They did play Indiana. They did play out USC. So I think they've had a little bit rougher go. I think they're little more battle tested, but we'll see. We'll see how they, uh, betting lines. I would say Illinois covers the spread and with these two defenses and these two offenses, I, I would, so I'm going to stay away from the over under. Cause I just couldn't tell you.
00:37:42
Speaker
You're right. Right. Yeah, I don't know. i You know, this is going to be a test for, seems like to me tod be more of a test for Illinois. If nothing else to prove, you know, Illinois is one of those teams that traditionally is not a player in college football, at least a big time player.
00:37:58
Speaker
Right. And they're going to be, Ohio State's going to give them a chance. They're going to have a house State at home. to to enter that realm, maybe this year being a big time player, if they can take them out. You know, if they, if they lose their five and two, and then maybe it becomes very difficult road to the college football playoff. Right. They could still run the table, make it, but it's, it's, ah this is where they need to, ah this is where they need to find out if they're going to be, if they're going to be a player.
00:38:27
Speaker
this year in the and in in college football. So this will be a good test for them. It's definitely definitely a rubber meets the road game for Illinois, for sure. Right, yeah. um We'll get to the SEC here, a couple games that I think are of of interest.
00:38:44
Speaker
um And the first one is Oklahoma versus Texas. Right. And I'm looking at this game, if Oklahoma wins this not only does it give them somewhat of a leg up in the SEC, I think it completely takes Texas out of any kind of competition for the football the college football playoffs.
00:39:10
Speaker
And if they can't if they can't find three more wins, I yeah i mean, we're talking an early December bowl game for them instead ah instead of New Year's Eve. Well, yeah, I mean, they're three and two right now, so another loss would probably take them out.
00:39:25
Speaker
Oklahoma's played really well. I think their starting quarterback is hurt right now. and Whether he'll play in that game is somewhat questionable. But, you know, you just never know when a team has their backs against the wall how they're going to respond. And Texas definitely has their back against the wall.
00:39:42
Speaker
yeah ah there's no coach There's no coach here on the hot seat or anything like that. But, you know, it's a it's an important game for Texas if they want to stay in and and but what was supposed to be possibly a national championship year, be one of the contenders.
00:39:58
Speaker
In Oklahoma, really, ah this was where they needed to reprove themselves this year, and this is a another game where they can keep moving forward if if they can pull off of Texas.
00:40:11
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They win this thing against Texas. The spread's only a point and a half, so it's basically almost a pick-em game, really. It's a rivalry, so they're allowing, imagine, most of them. And it is going be in Dallas.
00:40:24
Speaker
ah It's going to be at the. ah It's going to be at the Cotton Bowl. Oh, Cotton Bowl. Yeah, that's that's always ah one big game a year that gets played at the old Cotton Bowl anymore. yeah I'm going to go against this. I'm going to probably go against the the the trend here, and I'm going to take Texas for the upset.
SEC Showdowns: Texas vs Oklahoma and Alabama vs Missouri
00:40:43
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I'm going to take Texas for the upset outright. Yeah, you know you know, they feel like they've got their back against the wall. So, i you know, see what they can – it'll be interesting to see what what they they have. Arch Manning needs help.
00:40:56
Speaker
And he's not the perfect quarterback, but he needs and but he's going need some help. So they need to find a way to give a balance – more balanced attack than what they've had in recent games.
00:41:06
Speaker
Yeah, no doubt. um Then and another SEC game that you're going to be glued to the television for is Alabama-Missouri. That's going to be in Columbia.
00:41:18
Speaker
Looks like Alabama is favored by three. um You know, the over-under is 51 and a half. and the what i haven't seen I have to be honest. i have not seen Missouri play yet this year.
00:41:32
Speaker
I've seen a couple of Alabama's games. and They're hot and cold. i mean I think you're right. I think they're maybe finally getting it together. Ty Simpson looks pretty good is at their quarterback spot ah slot.
00:41:45
Speaker
They've been playing oh defense. um I don't know. what What's your take? i I'm going to let you have this one. you know like you know Well, I think this is a mirror of the Ohio State-Illinois game.
00:42:02
Speaker
ah Missouri typically can – it's not, you know, what a team that's a national championship contender, kind like Illinois, you know. i mean, they're not in the elite, the blue blood or anything like that. But they this game could put them this year in that direction. You know, they've moved up to 14th. If they would beat Alabama, I'm sure they'd move into the top 10. Mm-hmm.
00:42:24
Speaker
ah And Alabama needs the game because – You know, Kalen DeBoer needs to continue to prove himself to Alabama fans that he deserves that job. A win against Missouri would be respectable for them. It would be another ah step in that direction. And Missouri, you know, it'd be another step in the el Eli Drinkwich's program if he could pull this off. So it should be an interesting game.
00:42:48
Speaker
If I wasn't a Mizzou fan, I'd be certainly paying attention to this one, you know. but So I think it's one that has some ramifications. It has some ramifications, yeah. So you think Missouri can overcome the three points? or ah Yes, I think they can. they got a good yeah They've got a good offense. It depends how they play. And it depends how Alabama plays. I don't think the two teams are that far apart. Last week, Don, I don't know if you watched that Alabama-Vanderbilt game, and the final score didn't look that close.
00:43:19
Speaker
That was a tight game into the fourth quarter, and Vanderbilt fumbled fast. i mean, the red zone, I think, or turned the ball over in the red zone, I think about three times. They were driving for a score, touchdown score.
00:43:31
Speaker
And that's just – if they had not done that, that might have been a different game. Vanderbilt's truly good. So – and Alabama's not perfect. So, you know, we'll see.
00:43:42
Speaker
we'll We'll see. I think, you know, if I was doing my pick, I might pick Mizzou. But, you know, I'll allow for my bias on that, you know. you take You're taking Mizzou in the points. You're taking Mizzou straight up.
00:43:54
Speaker
I'll take Mizzou straight up. Take Mizzou straight up. All right. yeah I'm going to probably echo you on that, although I might hedge my bet and say Missouri and and take the take the points.
00:44:05
Speaker
ah but But, yeah, I mean, from what I've seen of Alabama, they're hot and cold, and depending on which team shows up is who's going to win. um Missouri, from what I've seen score-wise and some recaps, has been, ah to me, fairly steady. So we'll see how that game plays out for sure.
00:44:24
Speaker
uh then we've got
00:44:28
Speaker
gonna look in the top 25 here that you brought um where'd i go um oh oh no i guess we've already talked about it sorry about that i'm um yeah i'm a game behind myself here okay i i lost my i lost my way yeah oh it was it's not on the show that's because it's not i guess it is friday I thought they were playing. and Oh, there it is.
00:44:53
Speaker
I found it now. Florida, Texas A&M. Like you said, Napier, I think, bought himself a week.
Florida vs Texas A&M: Coaching Implications
00:45:00
Speaker
Yeah. But coming off a big win like that and you're going back into Texas again, can they pull a double whammy and put and pull off? They are ah set only a seven-and-a-half-point underdog, which I kind of find surprising.
00:45:15
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not sure I'm i'm convinced that Florida's back. ah Texas A&M really has – got a good team this year. They're, you know, they could win the SEC. And they're undefeated right now, but they won't stay undefeated. But i don't think it'll be Florida. That's going into College Station.
00:45:32
Speaker
Right. And I just don't see ah Florida won at – Gainesville last week against Texas. So they had the home crowd with them. But this time they're going to be in Tech College Station.
00:45:43
Speaker
So like 100,000 people screaming at them. So i I just don't know. No pressure at all. I see. but No, you know, seven and a half points. I'd probably take Texas A&M and give the seven and a half.
00:45:55
Speaker
Yeah. You know, i'm I'm kind of the same way. i I think maybe maybe the Texas game, like he said, being at home might have been just a little bit of a fluke. um But, you know, and like you said, it may have bought mayep Napier week, but with the rest of their schedule coming up, I just don't see yeah that's that happening. so All right, so right so that's that's kind of only the really...
00:46:19
Speaker
there's ah There's one other game that could be could be an interesting one, but um I don't know enough about either team to even try and handicap it, and that would be North Texas and South Florida. Yeah, i wouldn't know how to do that. South Florida, hass been they've beaten so many they've beaten a couple of really good teams, and you know North Texas is 5-0, so I don't know.
00:46:39
Speaker
And North Texas was in the top 25. Now they're out, so you know beating South Florida, does it put them back in? Who knows? Who knows? you know That kind of thing. ah Some of the other games that have got that are going on are really, I mean, I don't think they're no-brainers, but I don't think they're really anything that's going to be challenging. You've got to Ole Miss ah home against Washington State. You've got Florida State at home against Pittsburgh.
00:47:04
Speaker
Notre Dame stays at home playing North Carolina State. um Really nothing in here that I'm seeing that that could be something that we'd have to, I guess, Kansas, if they could upset Texas Tech, I don't know if that would happen. That's because that's going to be in Lubbock.
00:47:22
Speaker
um you know and You know, there's like you so there's a couple other games here and there, but nothing really is shaking out my fancy on that. ah So we talked about Franklin and and Napier.
00:47:37
Speaker
Um, I was looking around and a couple of other coaches they were talking about that are on the hot seat.
Coaching Hot Seats: Auburn and Wisconsin
00:47:43
Speaker
Um, and, uh, one is when we keep talking about you and I have talked about this guy, i think every year being on the hot seat and that's Hugh freeze down in Auburn.
00:47:54
Speaker
Oh yeah. Yeah. But I think this, this is the year he is on the hot seat, I think. Oh yeah. And, and, uh, they're not playing well, particularly in a Hugh freeze came in, was supposed to be an ah offensive genius. And, uh,
00:48:06
Speaker
wherever he had been in the past, when it Ole Miss or Liberty, he had he had he he had been successful as far as growing his offense, but he seems like he can't find his quarterback at Auburn, and he's supposed to be a good quarterback developer. So, so we you know, and then they're going to be at home, but they're going to be blood but they're goingnna be playing Georgia.
00:48:30
Speaker
Right. You know, um I'm like you. You know, they fired all the obvious hot sheet guys, hot seat guys. They've already been let go. ah We can't talk about Sam Pittman anymore in Arkansas because, you know, he was an obvious one.
00:48:46
Speaker
I think Auburn, I think Hugh Freeze steps into that that role now in the SEC. He and Billy Napier. Billy Napier, yeah. That's what everyone has their eye on as far as being on the hot seat, yeah.
00:48:58
Speaker
and Another guy on the hot seat out of the and out of the Big Ten as well is is Luke Fickle at Wisconsin. yeah He's just – that team, I don't know what to think of it.
00:49:10
Speaker
I mean, ro they they all the preseason, I mean, they weren't going to be a ah conference challenger, but they were going to be, i thought, better than than what they've what they've shown people um because they are – what uh three and two maybe i think is uh is what they are i gotta look it up here um but you know i and he's just hasn't had the last couple years where uh he's put anything together of any note um yeah they're actually they worse than i thought uh they're well they're two and three oh and two in the big ten yeah um
00:49:53
Speaker
yeah you know So that that could be a a death knell for him. um And I think this week they've got, they play
00:50:03
Speaker
at home versus Iowa. um and And then they got, after that, they've got Ohio State at home, at Oregon, Washington at home, at Indiana, at Illinois, or no home against Illinois, and then at Minnesota.
00:50:20
Speaker
Yeah, I think if they can get two more wins out of this season, they might be lucky. Yeah, i don't know. and i wonder that's awesome I think that'll spell the end for Luke. I think he's gone. Well, and I thought Luke Fickle was going to be a good – was a good hire when they got him. I thought he was too. I thought he fit well with that with with the Wisconsin program.
00:50:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, he was at Cincinnati, wasn't Was he at Cincinnati? believe so. i believe so Let me check his coaching record here really Yeah, I mean, they're already they're already talking his buyout, so.
00:50:53
Speaker
yeah I mean, if they start talking your buyout, you know you're gone. ah Yeah, he started at, well, he actually started it was no started at Ohio State as a grad assistant, was an assistant coach at Akron, ah assistant coach at Ohio State for a number of years.
00:51:14
Speaker
and then He filled in as head coach. he he filled in and said hey He was in yeah. And then he took over Cincinnati in until and now he is at wisconsin this is is he's been there since twenty three Yeah, and he, you know, if you look at his record, he he started off okay, but then yeah he just not improved it at all. he just And what he did at Cincinnati was you know was ah impressive.
00:51:46
Speaker
He had an impressive program there. So you think, well, I can win at Cincinnati and win at Wisconsin, but, you know, it just hasn't worked out for him. Whether it's some of these coaches are not adapting to the – transfer portal or the NILs of buying players or whatever. Maybe that's his case. I don't know enough about the Wisconsin and Finko, what's going on there, but that, you know, that seems to be ah coaches who've been successful in the past. In recent years have struggled with the new, with the new Paragon, Paragon of the ah college football.
00:52:22
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, yeah. and And I think, you know, ah we've talked about it a lot. um And we've had some people on talking about it. You know, this whole NIL deal now and, you know, the the colleges are now the one in charge. um You know, there's not so much as the outside players anymore. I mean, I think they're still around. Yeah.
00:52:45
Speaker
You know, in that respect. ah But, yeah, I think a lot of coaches are having an issue with with with the transfer portal. is and and yeah And we've talked about um mean the Dabo Sweeney ah not wanting not wanting to address the the portal and and only doing it when he has to.
00:53:06
Speaker
Um, then you got guys like Sinjinetti who brought in what 19 players a year ago to Indiana. Um, and then, then coach there, you have some coaches even forced into it. Um, Odom over there at Purdue. He had, he brought in, I think it was something like 45 players before the spring and then brought in another 30 after that.
00:53:30
Speaker
He had 80 transfers on that roster. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. yeah Yeah, you know, some guys, the guy at Oklahoma State who was so successful are there for a while and got fired this year, you know, he didn't he wasn't adapting well.
00:53:45
Speaker
He didn't like the – using the portal guys like him and dabble Sweeney want to build cultures. And that's what, that's what they were successful. ah And quite frankly, that's why Nick Saban retired. Uh, he didn't want to go into this new, this new era of college football. So he got out because he didn't think he, he wanted to mess with it.
00:54:06
Speaker
So those guys are just having a hard time, uh, adapting to this and some coaches have done fine so you know I think I think that's just what what you'll see with it could be that's the problem with Luke Fickle so I mean you know he maybe he's having that problem but you've got to adapt I mean it's pretty obvious that you've got to you've got to embrace the transfer portal or you know Because you can have a great recruiting class, then the next year all those guys take off somewhere else.
00:54:36
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I mean, and and, you know, that's something teams like Illinois, like Missouri, you know, that's where I think they've been able to rise up a little bit is, you know, not using the transfer portal heavy, but using it for the players that you need. I mean, um in Illinois' case, we got ah our quarterback Luke Altmaier out of the transfer portal.
00:54:59
Speaker
Uh, you know, and, uh, and I know, uh, Missouri's picked up a couple of really nice, uh, additions to their team out of the portal as well. And, um, you know, and then you got the teams that don't need the portal, but use it anyway, Ohio state, ah Alabama, Georgia. I mean, they don't, they don't need to use the portal, but they can find, I mean, uh, Miami is another one to picking up cam ward or not cam ward. um ah Yeah.
00:55:29
Speaker
Boy, we were a couple of good ones here. Carson Beck. Yeah. Yeah. Carson Beck. Right. Yeah. um yeah know And you got Iam Aleva that left Tennessee to go to UCLA.
00:55:43
Speaker
Right. But that doesn't seem to have benefited UCLA at all. Mm-hmm. yeah
Transfer Portal and NIL Deals: Changing College Football
00:55:50
Speaker
So I don't know. I mean, i think the transfer portal coupled with the NIL really makes it ah tough um to to, as like Sweeney would like to do, build. it I know Bielema also really would rather build a team than go transfer portal.
00:56:05
Speaker
um I don't know about Drinkwince. I think he's probably in the same boat. He'd rather build that culture. but i think you know But I think he realizes you need to bring in some of these guys that that you can get when you can get them.
00:56:19
Speaker
Well, I think what Drinkwitz did when he first got there, he was trying to build culture and do it through the recruiting and had some good recruiting classes. But then people started picking off his in the courts were picking off some of his better players. So he went in the portal to replace him and he his focus has changed.
00:56:38
Speaker
He's still trying to recruit, but he's hitting the train. He's looking at the transfer portal as a place to get really talented players. His recruiting class for next year is in the top 50, maybe.
00:56:49
Speaker
of recruiting, but his portal classes are usually one of the top in the country. So he's he's he's adjusted. He's adjusted to doing something different. so I think the programs that are going to be able to get that strong recruiting class, and I and i say strong, I mean in the in the top 50, top 40 recruiting class, if you can get a recruiting class like that and then cherry pick the portal for the players you need um and I know Illinois tried to do that this year by pick by going after a couple receivers to supplement losing Pat Bryant and Zachary Franklin.
00:57:26
Speaker
One guy's worked out pretty well. The other guy, I'm still waiting for him to show up. um you know But it's been one of their guys that they got and as a recruit, Hank Beatty, that's stealing the show right now at Illinois.
00:57:40
Speaker
um But i I think you've got a lot of players, like and a lot of coaches like that. I think Sinjinetti, He did what he had to do to make Indiana ah viable, and now they're getting recruits. Now they're getting ah good recruiting classes.
00:57:53
Speaker
um So I think it's it it kind of goes both ways. um You know, you can you can use the recruiting to get the portal, or you can use the portal to get to boost your recruiting. Right, right.
00:58:06
Speaker
Well, bud, um I think we've talked it out as about as much as we can tonight. Yeah, we covered it pretty well. We covered a lot of ground tonight. So let everybody know where we can locate you if we need to hear, if we need to talk about what you got to say.
Closing Remarks and Social Media Engagement
00:58:25
Speaker
Well, I'm at, on Twitter, I'm at, uh, Uncle Frank at FR Robinson 1957 and Blue Sky on Russ 57. ah So that's two places. Of course, i as I've said before, I float around some of the Mizzou Facebook groups too. So that's where you find me.
00:58:43
Speaker
Okay. Well, and you can find me and on X at TSOTBGCS, or you can look up the Facebook page, Talking Sports with Uncle Don.
00:58:56
Speaker
You can also find me on the Gateway Sports website. And then also, you can if you're looking for Illinois sports coverage, you can find me on the Champagne Room covering Illinois sports.
00:59:12
Speaker
There's also, I have a Blue Sky account also, but I just can never remember it. i know i I'm going to start using it some more often so I can put some more things out.
00:59:23
Speaker
But you can also find me on on some Cardinal pages too if you're into if you're into Major League Baseball. And one quick note, I don't know if you if you've heard about it yet, ro ah ah Russ, but we're going to have a Cardinal Roundtable.
00:59:39
Speaker
either this Sunday or next Sunday. I have to get the actual date on it. Um, let me see what I got here. Uh, so yeah, it's going to be coming up, uh, on the 19th at 8 PM. Uh, I think, I'm not sure if it's going to be a full, uh, live broadcast or not, but, uh, uh, I'll definitely post it on the talking sports with uncle Don Facebook page. So, um,
01:00:05
Speaker
It's going to a Cardinal roundtable. I think it's going to be right now. I think it's so myself, Ron Nuttall, Brian Swope, um and Pete Geddes. ah Gene is also going to be.
01:00:19
Speaker
Should be a pretty good time. and what The 19th. Is that what they said on? That's going to be a Sunday. Like said, I'll definitely make sure it's on the Talking Sports with Uncle Don Facebook page.
01:00:33
Speaker
So check ah check out also Gatewaysports.net. You can find a lot of different podcasts. As I would just said, that'll be on Gatewaysports.net as well. ah The two for three with Ron, no Pete get us and Elliot Dewey. You've got my Moose Michaels with the two for three, ah Rodney Capel and Tim Van Stratton with the stupidest sports show on earth.
01:00:55
Speaker
You have my other show, the talking sports with uncle Don. And then of course the ever popular. Oh, so I forgot one ah at the park with Ron Nettle and, um, Oh, I can't think of the, Chris, um,
01:01:11
Speaker
Can't think of his last name right off top my head. I should have it written down, and I don't. And then there's, of course, the Derrick King Sports Show with Derrick King. So check all those out, gatewaysports.net.
01:01:24
Speaker
Okay, and so for my broadcast partner, Russ Robinson, this is Don Glenn. We want to thank you for joining us tonight. You have fun. You stay safe. We'll see you again next time on the NCAA Report.
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