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Hi hi! Welcome to episode THREE of Fixated with Joelle & Ellen. This episode is all about awards season, Harry's new album, and the return of Zendaya. Enjoy!!
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00:00:05
Speaker
Hi! Welcome back to Fixated, a podcast with us, Joelle and Ellen. I'm Ellen. I'm Joelle. ah The podcast where we talk about all the media that we just can't look away from. The stuff we just can't seem to get over. Yes, and why it matters so, so much to us. This episode's a fun one We talk about the Oscars, do a little recap. We talk a little about Harry Styles' new album and some One Direction fandom stuff. And then we end with talking a whole bit about Zendaya.
00:00:36
Speaker
A lot of Zendaya. She's back, y'all. So I hope you enjoy. we go. third episode. I wonder how long it's going to take us to be like, to not be like fourth episode. I know. I was thinking about that earlier. I'm like, this might be our last count. I think once it gets to four, it gets a little weird that we start listing the numbers. so this is exciting. That's a big, this is our last numbered episode. Yeah. Everyone.
00:01:01
Speaker
You'll have to keep track after this. Yeah, you know. Hopefully someone will keep the count. but Yeah, they grow up so fast. so Exactly. Still early days. A toddler. Technically a toddler. um I guess that suggests that podcasts age rapidly. If it's like, you know, every other week it's a new age. Oh, that's true. Yeah. We have to change that logic a little bit. Just a little. We'll see. Maybe dog years. Yeah. Dog years. Podcast years. don't know what that be weeks, but still. Yes, yes, yes. No, I hear you.
00:01:36
Speaker
That makes sense. That tracks to me. That feels good. Yeah. Shorter than a human lifespan, but I don't know. Or maybe, maybe this goes until we die. we're doing this for a part. Yeah. Which, oh my gosh, I already think of something media related, but.
00:01:54
Speaker
I think we'll see. I'm assuming we're on the same page there. We usually are. Yeah. Yes. At least to start, but I was. yeah Yes. i Yes. Yes. Yeah. where' we're here on a beautiful sunny Saturday as is very evident. Yes, exactly. If you're watching, I'm in the direct sunlight.
00:02:12
Speaker
Yeah, or and it's spring officially spring spring is coming spring is here. This is huge. This is so exciting. I think yesterday was the spring equinox. Oh my god was it I wasn't paying attention. Yes, that's great.
00:02:24
Speaker
Which I only saw someone, I don't know, you know how social media works. You don't know social media works. um Random posts that someone was, an astrologer was being like, it's the spring equinox and also like Mercury's out of retrograde and blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's finally time for like the the worst parts of the beginning of the year are over. And and I was like,
00:02:49
Speaker
bet like you better be you better be on that yeah literally i said know um i'm ready for that for something good yeah exactly something a little bit good perhaps why not couldn't hurt yeah so we'll see i'm not as um astrologically inclined per se i'm not at all but they get me sometimes and then say sorry i actually don't know what the hell that means yeah Wait, should we do a sign reveal?
00:03:17
Speaker
oh my god, wait. Everybody think, everybody guess. Get in your minds what you think we are. Joelle, go. I am a Virgo, Virgo sun. As I understand, because who really knows with my like time of birth or whatever, but as I understand and and now completely identify with, of course, Libra rising Aries moon.
00:03:40
Speaker
Good stuff. Good stuff. there we go. I'm a Leo sun, Virgo moon, Virgo rising. Yes, yes, yes, yes. so's why So people do your work. Tell us what's up. Tell us what that means.
00:03:53
Speaker
tell about Tell us about our compatibility. I have an idea yeah of how this works out. I feel that we could be semi-compatible, but who knows? Yeah. We're always Googling compatibility with different signs. just see Sometimes it's good to know. I don't necessarily understand it and or super believe in it, but it's good to have that information sometimes. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, anything anyone could tell me about my compatibility with literally anyone. Matchmaker, or matchmaker, make me a match.
00:04:21
Speaker
You should get an astrologer matchmaker on this pod immediately. Exactly. Genre switch for that episode. Bye, I'll stay tuned. That was a dating advice podcast. Yeah.
00:04:38
Speaker
Fantastic. um Let's get into it. Should we talk our non-media fixations from the past week? Yes. Yes. Ellen, what have you, what non-media thing are you fixated on this week? I, okay. Well, I'm going to lie a little bit because a lot of my non-media fixations this week are all media because of media, but I feel like that's how most things come to me anyway. So that's, I'm okay with that. um Here we go. First one, TikTok has really been, i was going to say pushing, not pushing. It gave me one video and then I really locked in the Iditarod. I've been watching a lot of Iditarod content this week. Do you know what this is? that Please explain. Yeah.
00:05:18
Speaker
I feel like in like second grade, like i learned a lot about it. And I kind of completely forgot about it until this year. It's when those huskies like race across Alaska or something. Oh, my God. I'm going to be spreading misinformation online. I don't know where they go. But they go like a million miles across like the Arctic. And there's like it's like sled dogs. And there's 20 of them. i've really been i was going to say learning a lot. But I clearly have not been there.
00:05:44
Speaker
taking any of it in i have forgotten it all immediately but it's so fun and these dogs love it like they love it this is their life and they're so happy I like watching them like before the race starts they're so excited to run it's so awesome they're all jumping around oh my god life goal, life dream sometime.
00:06:03
Speaker
Watch those dogs. To dog in the, okay. No, no, no, to watch. In my next life, I would like to be dog running the Iditarod, but in this one, I just want to see it. Oh my God, it's so cool.
00:06:15
Speaker
yeah Wow, learn something new. I think it might be over already with us this year. I'm not sure. yeah again That makes me think of much information Call the Wild. Did you read that in high school? yeah I wish I could say I truly remember like more details about it. but Me either, honestly.
00:06:34
Speaker
sorry to English teacher who I love very dearly. Right? A very visually engaging book. I feel like through that book, in a sense, I understand the The tundra? don't know. Yeah, sure. Dogs and the tundra. I don't remember environment types either.
00:06:53
Speaker
It feels right. so It does feel right. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, um next one. TikTok has really actually been pushing this one to me. Sardines. I've been getting a lot of sardine content. o Yeah, it's really, I keep getting this one girl's content.
00:07:09
Speaker
And her skin is so, so gorgeous. And she keeps talking about how it's because of all these sardines. And I don't think I've ever had a sardine, honestly. And I yeah i know myself, I don't think I would like it. I want them so bad. I want to try it so oh bad. So yeah I've just been thinking a lot about sardines. I'll be getting into that maybe. And then yeah on my commute to work, I've been listening to a lot of early 2000s, late 90s, like slut pop is the way that I've been thinking about it. It's really fun. It's a really fun way to like lock in. I'm going to the office. I'm listening to like, if you seek Amy and like circus, like there we go a lot of Britney.
00:07:47
Speaker
It's great. It's a really fun way to just start your morning. I really kind of recommend it. I'm getting very excited on my way to work. There you go. Which sometimes it's hard. Sometimes I'm a girl who loves her really upsetting music, her really slow, like Phoebe Bridgers kind of stuff.
00:08:02
Speaker
That's not a good way to start your day. You can't start down. You can't start down in the dumps like that. You start up with Britney and then you... end of the day the commute home i'm listening to the sad stuff again it's great yeah and it's also very like change in season you know like if we're getting into it we're getting into it the sun is out yeah yeah yeah oh fantastic i kind of want to listen to slut pop now did i really recommend interesting Very interesting. um Okay.
00:08:30
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My turn for a few little fixations. Please. tell me. Give me. My first fixation of the week, I think, is... um I'm just going to lump it under like vindication. The feeling of vindication. Love. um Which is to say um that i Did a bunch of like more random forms of exercise this week. If I even want to lump it under there. I went on some different activities and i went ice skating, which I haven't done in so long.
00:09:00
Speaker
God, that's so fun. Right. It's really where the main source of vindication comes from, because I felt like I had an unearned confidence just like in my mind where i was like, I think I can ice skate. like I'm pretty sure I can do that. um i I feel like it's like a weird like body memory in general. I did a lot of roller skating when I was younger, a lot. I mean, realistically, it was probably like a year of lessons, but like.
00:09:24
Speaker
That's so fun. I didn't know that about Yeah, yeah. I remember because I had him in my like elementary school's gym. So my mom was just, you know, like basically after school instead of going to after school for however long. We just did roller skating lessons. um And then somewhere in there, like I remember going on ice skates once or twice maybe. And i remember the like...
00:09:46
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between the two um being like, oh, like, this is super fun. I like skating around. Cool. Whatever. Also reminds me that I love the movie Ice Princess. Oh, I just think it's one of the more it's such like a charming decom, you know, like it's Okay, okay. It's kind of underrated, but also very iconic. And it's just charming. And Michelle Choktenberg. Thank you. Is that how you say her name? Her last name? Also of Gossip Girl fame, of course. Oh, I love her.
00:10:12
Speaker
Yes. But she's so sweet and cute in that movie. And it's just, yeah, I just really like it. Joan Cusack's in that movie. So is... Is that Hayden Panettiere? Hayden Peronatier, that's what I'm saying, iconic film. And so is, I feel so, so bad that I blanking on the woman who plays Samantha in Sex the City.
00:10:34
Speaker
Either way, whatever, vindication, because I got on that ice and for the first, surely for the first, like 15 minutes I was like, like, please, holding on to the side. I was like, it's a little slippery. um Just to out there. i don't know if anyone's ever said this little slippery. But you get the hang of it.
00:10:57
Speaker
And I kind of, it was really fun to like, yeah, to to feel that. And I was like, it felt, it felt. You're so Illya. I felt vindicated. You're Shane. And that's the other right? Like, was like, oh my God, guys, get me on the ice next time. It's fun to do the hobbies that your favorite characters are doing. Here's, how about this? When they introduce women's hockey league to the treated rivalry. Oh my God, yeah. And they need an extra, might be more proficient on the ice than you think. That's a really good idea.
00:11:31
Speaker
Then you might have assumed. Let's get into X-ray in Vancouver. Yeah, step one, Vancouver. We're getting to work. A lot of things will be changing. there Exactly. Exactly. but a lot on docket. It's okay.
00:11:47
Speaker
But yes, so that was the main thing. But then we also went like on a bike ride and whatever. how to ride a bike, but that was fun. I knew I knew how to ride a bike, but it's still fun. And then yesterday I was just like shooting around a little bit outside as well. So I don't know, I guess I was in my like triathlon multi-sport bag this week a little bit. I did a little bit kickboxing as well. You're being a jock. Look at you. was kind of being a jock. I mean, it's also like one of the few things truly saving my brain from descending to like the pits of hell every single day. But like, keeping it light and fun, of course, like exercise all about, you know, and it was fun.
00:12:26
Speaker
So yeah, file it under vindication just to be fun about it, silly about it, I guess. But surely the ice skating. um And then the second thing, I'm just going to cheat, but media thing, non-media thing that was fixated on is this dang podcast. Fixated. Fixated pod. We were so talking on the day on which, yes, we've launched.
00:12:52
Speaker
I don't know. I think we're just, we put a lot of work into the launch and making sure everything was set up and the planning. And of course there's still more work to do, but it feels like kind of,
00:13:02
Speaker
getting over a hump and i'm excited and i'm proud of us and happy with us and um love our art work our gorgeous art shada shout out short art
00:13:20
Speaker
Cut that, cut that, cut that.
00:13:26
Speaker
Yeah. Shout out to our gorgeous, beautiful, wonderful, talented friend, Elise Leisure, who made our gorgeous cover art. Yay. Yeah, just love it.
00:13:38
Speaker
And I just love seeing things come together. um i love a creative project and love working with fun people to do it. So yay!
00:13:50
Speaker
last thing that I've been fixated on from like a writing and thinking perspective um is nostalgia. Digital nostalgia, nostalgia. um This kind of plays into what I might bring up a little bit later about what something I've been reading. um But yeah, I'm kind of, I'm trying to work on this thing. This, yeah, whatever. I'm just trying to work on writing a piece um for the Substack Slash in general um as good practice that would be talking a little bit about digital nostalgia. And so I was rereading a lot of the like literature and a lot of the like
00:14:30
Speaker
commentary on more of a recent trend of like nostalgia stuff. And it's just like funny because as I was like, took like the day to really like read a lot about it on like what Wednesday or something like that.
00:14:43
Speaker
um And by the end of it, I was like, Oh, I was like, what is the mind and what is time and what is memory? Yeah. I was like, oh my God. And yeah, came across this really interesting, well put, like well put together article from like a while or essay from like a while ago. So that's been fun. And i will continue working on that throughout the end of the month. So I imagine I will remain fixated on it.
00:15:08
Speaker
natural transition now to talk oscars should we talk think we should i think i mean they happen to you guys right like i don't know if this i don't know if this like fits under us being like okay what are what are we fixated on this week or if we just want to like admit to just talking about the oscars a little bit um I guess a bit of both because they happened happened about a week ago now. ah um We were watching, of course. Of course, we were watching and apart, we were live tweeting each other.
00:15:44
Speaker
yes. Apple iMessages. Yes. Well, we got the request. We were we were we did. It was really exciting. That meant a lot to me. it's Yes. Yes. Our dear friend, who I'm sure will make an appearance on the pod sooner rather than later. Watch this space. She was like, guys, I really want you guys to like text, live tweet throughout this throughout the Oscars so that I actually know what's going on because she trusted that we would know what's going on. Which kind. That we meant so much to me. Honestly, that in itself, a form of vindication as well to keep the theme going. My like headline from the Oscars was that I did a shit job predicting things.
00:16:23
Speaker
it I did not do particularly well. i like filled out a... i literally have it right here. Let's do some prop work. I filled out a ballot. Don't read closely.
00:16:35
Speaker
I'm going to move it so no one can catch it. How much I got wrong. um well I filled out like, yeah, letter, letterboxed to 2026, whatever Oscars ballot. um And did a bad job. That was my first go. Did a bad job. um Out of that one. I just don't even want to mention it was less than half. It was bad. but yeah I got right now. Okay. And then I also ended up participating in a pool where Yeah, i kind of ended up changing up my answers. I couldn't tell you. And there was like the opportunity to do like one choice or first choice, second choice, whatever, and get some points.
00:17:12
Speaker
That's fun. Also didn't end up last, but did not do well because it was like, trust me, did not end up last, but like. was in the lower lower percentile, for sure. um And then also we did a little like es not ESPN. i keep wanting to say it was ESPN because technically it was ESPN.com that we were on.
00:17:32
Speaker
Yeah. just They have like a Mark Mathers bracket situation for the Oscars. Yeah, exactly. Which is very fun. um And that was my best showing where, again, I must have switched up the answers somehow, somewhere, somehow, where I got like 15 out of 24. So that is what I'm running with it's good as my performance prediction wise. Yeah.
00:17:51
Speaker
um I don't know. What about you? Did you? I actually, I can't tell you the number off the top of my head. I don't remember, but I think I did a pretty good job. um i Sorry to brag, but I know I did on a few of the, on a few of the like categories that I wasn't as familiar with, like the documentary stuff and the short films and the animated movies. Well, actually not animated movies. I did great on those because K-pop Demon Hunter is I knew was winning everything that I did. ah But on the rest of them, I wasn't, I didn't do as well because I wasn't as familiar with any of those. I think I only watched one documentary of the nominees this year.
00:18:29
Speaker
I'm not good with the documentary. I have to admit. It's documentaries. Yeah. who yeah I said documentaries. Documentaries and reality TV.
00:18:43
Speaker
And I think there's like kind of a, you know, yeah necessary connection between the two um are not genres that I flock to. I'll be. Yeah. Other than that, I did pretty well, I think, on my bracket. Bracket is not the right word and I keep using it, but I'm gonna. Oh, yeah.
00:18:59
Speaker
I think I did a pretty good job. I know that i watching this Oscars, I was maybe the happiest watching an award show I've been in a while. I was really, right i was very glad with every category. Usually I have a lot of complaining to do when it comes to award season. um There was another, maybe it was the Golden Globes that we watched together. we had the same takeaway where, um where we were like, okay, every single category we're happy with. I wasn't really mad about any of it. There were no big upsets, at least for me.
00:19:28
Speaker
um incredibly happy with Michael B. Jordan. I was very proud that. i Of course. I jumped for joy. i Yeah, I was very, I shrieked and I gasped. I love Timothee Chalamet. We know this.
00:19:41
Speaker
And I thought his performance was great. And I've been thinking for a long time that this wasn't going to be his year. And I did have yeah people reach out to me and be like, oh my God, this is so upsetting. Can you believe it? Me not saying names to me. hide their identity i was like one yes i can believe it and two i'm who do you think i am i love timmy but no no that's actually if i may bring up some controversy please um no the other day or like you know i guess sometime this week um My mom mentioned that she had read some article that she was taking umbrage with where they were like, where it was like, oh, how Timmy lost the like Oscar. um And she was like, why would they act like it's like his to lose? Like, why would they frame it like that? And I was like, yeah, i was like, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. was like, and let's get into it actually. Yeah. um
00:20:35
Speaker
Cause yeah. I mean, I guess it's not that much controversy. I imagine like most people, well, i i would I should feel most people with sense would agree. um That it's like really kind of like insulting and underhanded and just all the things to be like, oh, it was his to lose. It's like, no, that's not how these things work. That's not how these things work. And also don't act like Michael B. Jordan, like would have lost because of some other drama happening with Timothee Chalamet. Yes, literally. Which like, course, you don't even have to get into it because that's stupid too. But like- i have So many opinions on that that nobody's going to agree with me on. I know that you will because we're locked in. But um I just, I don't, I don't think that this was his Oscar to lose this year. He did a great job, but that was it.
00:21:17
Speaker
um i think it's like, fine i I personally have no issue with that phrase necessarily. I think personally that was Jesse Buckley's Oscar to lose. um Exactly. This was her year. That was her. Say that.
00:21:28
Speaker
Like say that. Yeah. incredible performance. And the second I saw that movie, knew that that was her Oscar. But, Timothy, uh-uh. He's had, sure, I do think that there was maybe another year in the past that it was his Oscar and he did lose it. um Which one? I think, call me by your name, I think he maybe should have won for that. And i do think that he did such a great job with um A Complete Unknown, too. I think, not necessarily his to lose, but I certainly wasn't happy with Adrian Barty last year. i was not... right
00:21:59
Speaker
But yeah, back to it. That was this year. It was no one's Oscar to lose. It was not. Right. His Michael B. Jordan, his that performance was incredible. And he did double the performance that everybody else did. Sorry. Let us not forget. Yeah. And I think like, I'm also I'm like, in a little bit of a corn plating moment with Michael B. Jordan in general. um a little bit just like because getting ready for the oscars i watched he was like honored at like the american cinematech or something like that like some like association that i this is the first time i had heard about it admittedly um but there's a lot of videos on youtube of different people kind of like seeing his praises his you know his colleagues his um
00:22:42
Speaker
his himself as well kind of like doing giving an acceptance speech but like yeah and so i kind of like really like worked myself up watching those um where i was like oh he's a fantastic young man and he's a talent and he's so handsome and he deserves it so much and so humble and so you know like just you know good vibes good good vibes um And so, um yeah, so by the time we got to watching it, I was like, if they don't give him that, I'm going to scream.
00:23:13
Speaker
And they did. And they did. And they did. So I was really happy about it. so um But yes, I think Jesse Buckley was also like such a standout for me for this year. Like,
00:23:27
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Holy shoot. Oh my god. Yeah. Like using this as an opportunity as well to like comment a little bit on some of these movies that obviously we haven't yet mentioned that much of. But like Hamnet, oh my god. you it Took my breath away incredibly. I watched it pretty early on. and I know I texted you immediately and I was like, okay, Oscars for a lot of them.
00:23:50
Speaker
Go watch it now. Yeah, I think it took me a second, unfortunately, to finally go see it. But gosh darn it, am I glad I did. Girl, when I tell you I cried, which like isn't to say it's a sob fest in any derogatory way. Like, no, I just thought it was genuinely so moving through Jessie Buckley alone, in a sense. Like, obviously not because that's not how movies work. But like her performance was just gobsmacking. I have to say I've never seen a child actor's performance who to that caliber.
00:24:23
Speaker
I've never been so ah taken aback by a young actor like that. Oh my God. That was really like, it was horrifying the way that I was emoting. It makes me feel like that motif of the hole in the like ground and then the whole like the back hole into the backstage and just like the lost in the woods type of thing like again like goosebumps like i was just like it was snieting sick it made me ill and him being so scared like oh you're gonna ah you're like cut the cameras like I remember leaving that theater and just being like, yeah we oh my goodness. Yeah.
00:25:10
Speaker
To the point where, and I'm sure I'm going to reference her so much over the course of this, because I am a disciple of Hunter Harris, love Hunter hunter Harris. But like the first little bit of like review that I really got about Hamnet was her not liking it. I started finding it kind of boring finding it boring and it's kind of like serious unserious probably quite serious um but like running bit as well throughout this like award season where she's like amnet i amnet i don't want to see it win win anything um but yeah like did each their own but I just so then I was like kind of interested i was like I don't know how this is gonna like go over but No, I mean, it's it's made for, like a like, a bitch like me, like, apparently. Yes, exactly. Sorry. Yeah, I thought it was beautiful. That just makes me think, there was, I think we've talked about this already, there this a award season, there was so much on, like, motherhood and grief and family specifically.
00:26:09
Speaker
Yes. yeah I love it overarching theme across multiple, oh my God, it was so, yeah I loved it. This is my freaking jam. um Again, at least of the last week when I realized how much how much overlap. And i won't I'll try to like not go so deep into what I've been thinking about. um But yes, there's so much about like, across all the movies, so much about like parenting, of course, parental anxiety, parenting, child-parent relationships. But I think that then like expands a little bit as well to being so much about like, ancestry and like archives and like and just like reaching back into the past the past meeting the present and everything like that like it's so it's like such it's like the the complete through line and just like beautifully explored through so many different yeah things and then I think it gets even more physical and like more about like spaces with how much like homes and houses and stuff like that like allow me this
00:27:10
Speaker
One of them that I feel like should have been more my favorite movie of 2025 Loki was Sorry Baby Amy Vickery. And I saw it. Yes, I saw it at the um in London at the BFI.
00:27:27
Speaker
Yes. Sure. Sure. um When they also did a Q&A afterwards. um Honestly, quite the story because I was running around London, didn't know, didn't know where i was going. I was so late. And then my phone was dead. And so I did have like, for better or for worse, leave it up to God. It's okay. Because the fact does matter is that I was there to experience it. But I didn't get like any proof to like really be able to like remember, like, you know, just to be able to yeah actually like look back and be like, I like at least a singular photo of exactly little of that. like that um
00:27:58
Speaker
But wow. oh Got me. But like even in that, there's so much there's like really great things going on with like yeah parenting. I mean, oh the little baby at the end. Come on. And like the idea of like yeah transmitting information, ideas, comfort, safety, et etc., e etc. to like next generations. There's like this, in that case, a little bit sadder.
00:28:23
Speaker
um A little bit... you know harrowing I should say yeah but like again the idea of like a house containing like a memory violence etc etc even like Agnes the character's own like then like shutting in of herself in her own like space with all the like papers or whatever on the windows anyways things are coming back to me also with the like houses thing sorry baby doesn't fall as much into this um Back again to the imagery of the like hole, this like dark cavernous hole, like that also came up in Sentimental Value a little bit with like all the cracks in the walls and stuff. but There was like one shot that made me think of it, of they like of like at an actual like hole in the house. um
00:29:11
Speaker
And then also in If I Had Legs. I'd kick you. Yes. That's like a big thing is that like weird like wormhole memory thing that they keep returning to. Interesting.
00:29:23
Speaker
Spoiler, at the beginning there's like a big like basically like pipe burst or whatever in the... um in her in their apartment and so part of the thing is they're like they have to be like living in this motel because the house where they live like literally is not getting fixed and there's this big old hole that she keeps coming to and like staring up into um it's really i just there's a lot of through lines throughout there are this like home memory past, present thing. um
00:29:55
Speaker
Yeah, i just like completely like steamrolled that conversation. No, you're totally fine. um i just It makes me think about in one battle after another, one of my favorite like genres of movie is like parent searching for a child trying to find you, trying to save you kind of thing in like a reunion.
00:30:13
Speaker
Exactly. Nemo taken like that. Nemo plot. The Nemo plot. Yeah. i It makes me cry like a lot every single time that kind of when there are spoilers like the, oh my God, I don't remember any characters names, but when the father and the daughter are like on that road and they have their little reunion and they finally find each other.
00:30:35
Speaker
oh my God. I loved that movie. I loved it. It was really, really good. And another just friendly plot. And Best Picture. Exactly. I'm happy with it.
00:30:46
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I'm honestly happy with it. I did really like that movie. Like, I thought it was fantastic performances. Fantastic score. um And I really kind of, like, I appreciated the the execution, the humor of it. I i still appreciated the, like, general... um themes I appreciate it as like a dad movie as well dad but i don't think PTA I don't think Paul Thomas Anderson has like um tried to disabuse anyone of that notion he's like no this is about being like a father and this is somewhat a message to my children yeah or at least about to whatever um I think he said that in the acceptance speech that's so sweet I just so I definitely liked so much yeah I definitely liked that aspects of it but
00:31:30
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yeah maybe at another time get into some of the criticisms but that's i find it interesting trying to like navigate criticisms anyways at least a very current thing at the moment for me where it's like yeah when does something mean when when does criticism mean that you maybe shouldn't like something is that like the right way to think about it when is it just something to kind of like take as a whole or as like part of the context of the film in general where you're like some people might have this to say about it some people interpret this about this you know and you just kind of keep it pushing i don't know that's all i just don't know um anything else to talk about oscars wise um like a pretty positive pretty chill pretty cool year i'm like pretty good excited was there
00:32:20
Speaker
yeah baby yoda was there oh joy oh joy well i don't even know how serious i am when it appeared it when it appeared on screen you were like get this thing out of here well yeah i'm like isn't this is isn't this played out don't we know already What Grogu is really all about? I think it's the thing that I said to these specifics. Sorry.
00:32:53
Speaker
I'm just remembering how the trolley problem came into play. But anyways, we can leave it at that. I think you said if he's what involved in the trolley problem, I'm walking away and whistling a tune.
00:33:08
Speaker
yeah You want that thing dead in the ground. just don't care. That's the thing. Sorry. What you were going to say? Go ahead. No. What was I going to say?
00:33:20
Speaker
Shouldn't he... He's been around for years. Shouldn't he not be a baby anymore? I was... Someone mentioned this to me last night. So true. He, him, baby Yoda? He, him, baby Yoda. Oh. Yeah. Is it a girl?
00:33:31
Speaker
is there it an it? I don't know. I think... Grover seems like a boy name. It's impossible to know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. This is the thing. i think it should also be stated that, and correct me if I'm wrong, neither of us knows anything about Star Wars or anything related.
00:33:52
Speaker
Okay, I wouldn't say i don't know anything about Star Wars because I was texting um my dear friends, Ryan and Clara, I guess name drop. I don't know how often I like dropping names here. I think that might be our first name drop on the pod. Yeah, I was like... Francois, last episode.
00:34:06
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I was texting them like a little bit later during the ceremony and Ewan McGregor and Nicole Kidman came up and... I don't think either of them knew who Ewan McGregor was.
00:34:19
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And I was like, Obi Wan Kenobi. was like, well, at least Obi Wan Kenobi guys. yeah It's like, come on. That's so funny. So I know a little bit. I know some names. That's something. That's more than me. I didn't know he was in Star Wars.
00:34:34
Speaker
Well, okay. And when I've seen the first one. i know Luke and Leia and Han Solo and Chewbacca and then the gay ones. Um,
00:34:47
Speaker
the two The gay robots. a um They're dating each other. The tall... That's his name. R2-D2 and the other one. um T3PO. Just listing Star Wars characters that I'm familiar with. We can't get into Star Wars.
00:35:03
Speaker
It's bad for the brand. It is. um get it Why did we get onto this? Oh yeah, Grogu. I don't know. Oh, okay. Yeah. That thing. That thing. He was there. Yeah. He there. Yeah. That was our last Oscar's point. Miss Grogu was there.
00:35:17
Speaker
That reminds me. Did you see um that like Anya Taylor-Joy thing? It was giving me a nice little chuckle. She was like on the Today Show promoting um new Mario's movie.
00:35:28
Speaker
And I think she's also doing the Joni Mitchell biopic. I think i think that's why it was a brought up. I think so. i actually did not. ty Whatever. And so then the like, whatever, the anchors were like, oh, like, what do you think is like the connection between Joni Mitchell and Princess Peach? She's like, she's like, what's the connection between Joni Mitchell and Princess Peach? Well, they're both singular.
00:35:53
Speaker
i'm goodnna I'm like not doing a good, you'll just have to go look at it. But people were just, you know, it was a like good natured, everyone laughing about this like weird little like pop culture moment. That makes no sense. I love that. Exactly. And that's the thing. It's like through her the repetition of like, like she's both being like perfect, like well, um media trained celebrity where she's like, ah, like what's the connection? but you can tell she's just like,
00:36:17
Speaker
what's the between Michelle and Princess Peach? And then, yeah, it's just like, they're both singular. That's so funny. Like, there's no one like like, you know, something like that. yeah I was like, ugh, love it. This is what we talk to celebrities for. Exactly. yeah we You're not going to get that from anyone else.
00:36:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's brilliant. But yeah, Oscars were good. I enjoyed the Oscars this year. I love the Oscars every year. Yeah. It's my super bowl. It really is. It really is. I feel like. I was just going to say Conan. I love Conan. I think Conan did such a good job again. i think he did a great job last year. He's a lovely host. It's. Exactly. i saw less of this opinion this year than I saw last year where people were like, he didn't go as crazy as Conan usually does of like you guys. It's an ABC production. Everyone in the world is watching the Oscars. Of course, it has to be mostly like mass appeal. And he does a wonderful job of that. I think it was great.
00:37:15
Speaker
I thought the bits, a lot of the bits were fun. Exactly. they were silly. They were fun. like Genuinely creative, fun. um You know, I think there's always a tension a little bit with like... Once you get... like it's long It's a long show. So I am not immune for sometimes being like, all right, i' like let's wrap it up. Yeah, yeah but... um Yeah, I think he his strength is really really the bits. I was listening to...
00:37:38
Speaker
um critics at large, whatever, they were talking about um Oscar hosts. And funnily enough, i was listening to another one um that was talking about some big hullabaloo that happened with the Oscars like in the late 90s with like Snow White. or there was like a weird There was apparently a really weird kooky Oscars that happened once that was like the mad fantasies brought to life of this one producer guy. And then it basically like exploded his career and he was like he never got work again. really bad Yeah. Apparently this guy who like talked about it wrote a book that I was like, you don't have to get a book. That was like like an Oscars history book that I was like. That's interesting.
00:38:16
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um Yeah. um And whatever. They were just talking about the job of being an Oscar host and they were kind of like going through history of Who had done it and like why it's kind of like a hard thing to nail. Kind of an impossible job.
00:38:30
Speaker
Right? Because yeah it's just true where you like with a lot of these hosting things, you have to work the room. You have to be mindful that it's also being broadcast to like millions of people and make sure that these things kind of like match up. energy wise execution wise etc etc i think they said this year billion people tuned in to watch the oscars which i saw that i said that there's no way that's correct yeah i said it seems like a lot to believe but it was like oh that's true very cool if true yeah so cool if true
00:39:02
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But yes, I think he did good job. And you know what? You know who does a fantastic job as of late with hosting in general? Nikki Glaser. Just saying. She is great. She kills and She kills it. um Golden Globes are an absolute hoot to watch now. They are. Yeah, she's very funny.
00:39:18
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Now that's probably done with Oscar talk. Yes. um Except to say that every single time the Oscars are done, I get excited because I'm like, new movies coming up. New movie. New conversation. New movie. Excited to get here again next year and have a whole bunch of other things to talk about. Yay. I'm so excited for the 2027 Oscars. Yes. Well, okay. I feel like we have like a little bit more time to talk a little bit more of other things. Maybe other things you're fixated on this week. Other media things. I a little bit surprised myself this week. I saw that Harry Styles, you know, came out with his new album and I said, okay, I guess I'll tune I'm nothing against him. I'm not the biggest Harry Styles fan. Like I never have been. I'm not particularly drawn toward him.
00:40:01
Speaker
I had a lot of fun with this album. I was very surprised. I don't like EDM either. That's not really my thing. And that's kind of I knew what this album was. So I don't know why I even turned it on. I had a great time. It was very fun. i' really enjoyed it. I said, good job, Mr. Styles.
00:40:15
Speaker
Good job, Mr. Styles. Yeah, I all i really want to say on that. No, that's great. i could probably count myself as more of a Harry Styles fan overall. Well, you know, i more than me. um Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I was I feel like there's like a there's an idiom. There's a phrase I'm looking for. um but I've been there. I've been there for a while. I've been here with the boys for a while. This actually dovetails nicely into what I've been reading this week and really enjoying. But um before get to that, yes, i also i also like the album.
00:40:51
Speaker
I'm pleasantly here for it. I think Harry's Taos was kind of a toss up for me. Honestly, okay, quick run through of his discography thus far.
00:41:05
Speaker
Really like self-titled debut album, honestly. Quite different, but really good seeds there for like what he has continued to develop. And like the song Two Ghosts came up on Shuffle the other day, and I was like... i said, oh yeah, that's awesome. Love that.
00:41:22
Speaker
Fine Line, i thought, is I still maybe think is his best one. Yeah. Even though um i this This is a whole complex I have a little bit, but I don't really care for the treat people with kindness song.
00:41:37
Speaker
I don't know. i just I can't listen to it earnestly. And maybe that's the thing. There's bit of earnestness that like doesn't really it kind of grinds grinds me a little bit. Maybe my problem. That's fine.
00:41:48
Speaker
But fine line. Good song. Oof. fantastic you can't really have a song like that and be graduating from high school and not like attached to it you know what mean and then um harry's house ah e give or take across the board like there's there's there's a lot of good stuff on there but i think sometimes some of his slower songs i'm just kind of like i don't know something about the pov doesn't really work for me in some of them And also, i think history will stand with me when I say he just simply did not need to win best or album of the year at the Grammys over Renaissance by Miss Bouncy. That's just, that's just, and I can, I can admit, even in the moment, i was like, oh, like, y'all don't need to be so hard on him in a way. Like, you know, because he said, like, stupid shit when you're on. Sorry. um We might have to cut that.
00:42:42
Speaker
Sorry. For some reason, I'm like, at least don't let the Harrys get me. But like, yeah, um we could be in danger. It could be in danger because like theoretically I'm one of y'all, but like. I understood what he meant, but this kind of thing doesn't happen to a guy like What are we talking about? My guy, my guy, my guy. That shit happens to. You're like the main guy. You're you're like vel god you're like but you're like the Anyways.
00:43:08
Speaker
um this one i thought was refreshing and fun and you know it's been i've been working you i've been returning to it enough working through it and it's got some bops it's got some bops um and it is a bit dancey as he apparently wanted it to be and yeah i'm i'm pretty pleased with it um as i said it really connects well to what i've been reading which i have right here reading this book Which I feel like... And where did you get that?
00:43:35
Speaker
Ellen bought it for me. As a little birthday gift. um A great picture exists of me holding this and Heated Rivalry. god, yes it does. Yeah, you're a copy of Heated Rivalry. We had to get to purchasing that day. Yes, yes. There's like a very resonant energy between the two. Exactly. Yes.
00:43:55
Speaker
Everything I Need I Get From You, How Fangirls Created the Internet As We Know It by Caitlin Tiffany. And I had seen this book however long ago that it must have come out. I had been relatively aware of it and we saw it at that um bookstore and I was like, peep maybe it's the time. And yes. um But yeah, loving it. And the reason it connects is that the main case study that she's using for... um talking about fangirls and the internet um and kind of like digital culture from that point of view is the One Direction fandom. And so it's been such an interesting, bringing it back to nostalgia, such an interesting like trip down memory lane enough for me. um
00:44:38
Speaker
And super like accessible writing about all these like, topics, digital culture stuff, fan culture stuff, super interesting. Like I just, I really, i really loved it. I really am really liking it.
00:44:50
Speaker
I'm like a little bit over halfway through and there's like this whole chapter called shrines. It's on shrines. I think that's the chapter that I like read and was just gobbling it up because also as like a separate but related thing i was working on reviewing and working on some like research a little bit that i did in my master's that was about like informal digital archiving basically um and i was talking about vines and stuff and vine compilations and reading this i was like oh my goodness another place i don't know how i like missed it but another way that this like
00:45:34
Speaker
could be seen as like a digital practice that is happening before our eyes, of course is like in fan cultures. yeah um Of course, of course, like online fandom, like that's what Tumblr is basically all about. Like people name their Tumblr as like 1D archives, like just content and memes and everything. Archive of our own. Archive of our own, right? The archive, yeah. Exactly.
00:45:58
Speaker
But yeah, so I really ate it up when they were when she was writing about that. i thought it was really interesting. And I love, yeah, I'm like, so really feeling drawn to like, fan studies, fan culture, digital culture in that under that lens in general, not to be... Not to make this all nerdy and academic all the we and all of a sudden, but um yeah, it's been a fun read and it's my read of the month and I'm loving it. It's awesome. And it makes me think of One Direction a bunch and feel all like fond and happy a little bit. Perfect. That was a good time.
00:46:32
Speaker
It was really nice. So what else? What else? What else? What else? Yeah, I think... Yeah, this this counts as like media related. It's not like about media that we've like watched right now. But definitely, i think something that we...
00:46:50
Speaker
have been, can be, will be fixated overall as well. It's in the culture. It's Mrs. Zendaya. It's Mrs. Zendaya's back. She's back. She's back. Our dang girl, my dang girl, the world's dang girl. We've been saying she's quadruple back. She's quadruple back. a sudden she's everywhere. And I couldn't be happier. Exactly. There's the drama movie with Robert Pattinson. There's...
00:47:16
Speaker
Spider-Man! New Spider-Man! Exciting. New Spider-Man trailer dropped. I am pumped. I didn't know that that was coming. kind of didn't know they were making another Spider-Man. Like at least anytime soon. I figured it would happen eventually because of the way the last one ended.
00:47:29
Speaker
Yeah, but I mean, pleased as can be. I'm so excited. And oh my God, can I say, Jon Bernthal in that trailer. so excited. love Frank Castle. I love the Punisher. I love Jon Bernthal. I love the Punisher as a whole. I love Daredevil. I love all of that stuff. Yes, that was very pleasing to see, I'm not going to lie. I was like, Frank. very excited. Uh-huh. That's awesome for me for Which also reminds me there's new Daredevil. There's a new Daredevil season. new Daredevil season coming up yeah soon. Which I didn't see. the
00:48:06
Speaker
I haven't seen anything. I didn't know was coming. The reboot. Right now. No, I'm not caught up on the reboot. But I've been seeing some ads in the subway, which... Sorry to get into now my nerdiness side of things, but the way that Daredevil has been marketing season one and season two, I'm obsessed with their ads. It is such good marketing. It is so beautiful seeing just like the, if no one knows what I'm talking about, it's like Matt Murdock missing Daredevil Wanted or something is the new. oh I took a picture and I sent it to Joelle and our other friend who also likes Daredevil. I'm so excited about it. And it's just such good.
00:48:41
Speaker
It's so good. It looks so good. I'm so happy and I love Daredevil and I am so excited for the new Spider-Man movie too. Anyway, thank you Zendaya for that. and she Thank you Zendaya. She looks so gorgeous in that trailer, obviously.
00:49:00
Speaker
But it's like specifically the one scene where she's they're at a party or something um and she's flirting with that other guy and Peter's all sad in the corner, which sorry to say it again, love to see a sad Peter Parker.
00:49:12
Speaker
Very happy. He's going back to his roots. He's poor. He's a loser. He's alone. Great. And Tom Holland. Exactly Peter Parker should be. Obviously a great speeder. Yes. Obviously a great Peter Parker. And like a lot of his, lot of the sadder moments in the series, I think he's just like delivered so well. He delivers like a beautiful acting performance. He really does. Like really good.
00:49:31
Speaker
Really gets him. Yeah. When she's standing, flirting with that other guy whoever it is. Mm-hmm. Gorgeous. Zendaya. I love her. um Yes. And then Dune. Her third. Dune 3 coming very soon. Very exciting.
00:49:48
Speaker
Which we're Dune heads here. Dune heads. Yeah. Like, hey, that was okay. Well, my, well, nevermind.
00:49:59
Speaker
I was going to say that it that Dune was my like Timmy revelation, but that's not true. That's not Not really. So you lie. My like real Timmy revelation should have been Call Me By Your Name, and I loved Call Me By Your Name.
00:50:11
Speaker
I liked his performance in it. My real Timmy revelation truly was in Little Women. Just saying. The hill scene in Little Women. That's fair. You know? God. No use. my ah God. Oh, I know it, girl. Yeah, mine was Call Me By Your Name. I've been there with him since 2017, since that day. Yeah. But that's okay. That's... Yeah. Oh, my God.
00:50:31
Speaker
But I'm excited for Dune 3, obviously. It's... It already looks stunning. It's going be good. Denis Villeneuve, he knows how to do a dude movie. He does. My breath was taken away with that worm riding scene. Like I'm not even going to hold you. Watching it in theaters, I was like, yeah.
00:50:49
Speaker
That's a long movie, and I think I've seen it twice, and I want to see it again. i think I've been realizing really recently, as in within since last night, and this is some self-reflection I'm coming upon very late in life. i think I might be sci-fi girl. Huh. I think she knows a Marvel. Yeah, exactly. I know. I've been a Doctor Who girl since day one, and I was watching Supernatural. hu But I...
00:51:15
Speaker
I came upon this information and I was like, huh, damn, I really love this shit. it's Oh man. I can't wait for Dean three. It'll be so good. It'll be so good. And then of course the fourth Zendaya, euphoria, euphoria of that bastard child. I don't know why that feels fitting to say, but oh, euphoria, euphoria, this shaky cigarette that I'm smoking for that damn show. Yeah.
00:51:43
Speaker
I'm here to watch it for, and to see it through with the culture. I think the culture just has to see it through a little bit. um To see it through for Vizendaya. For the spectacle of it, I'm sure.
00:51:55
Speaker
entertaining, at what cost? still haven't seen it for you. That's one I've watched, not yeah unfortunately. Yeah. Drama! A show that has some BTS drama beyond scenes. Yeah, but but yeah, Zendaya's quadruple back. Period.
00:52:10
Speaker
And I'm excited about it. Yeah. It's good. It's a good time to be alive when Zendaya is active and out here. And her hair! Oh my god, her hair! She walked out at the Oscars with that hair.
00:52:25
Speaker
said, mm-hmm. Gorgeous, stunning, beautiful, perfect. She can truly wear anything. um I love to see her. So happy to see her back on the media circuit doing her themed outfits, this time wedding themed.
00:52:41
Speaker
ah Like, come on. My favorite thing in the world. And not to bring it back to Challengers, which I'm sure we're going to mention forever in every episode. Just... stunning perfect. I don't, I unfortunately don't think there will be any beating that media circuit. She looks the best. With those outfits ever.
00:52:59
Speaker
She looked the best ever throughout that media like in the movie itself obviously there's just I just remember that one frame of her in the blue dress at the party yeah well no I mean that's her that's her profile picture I know she also wanted to bring up exactly I said she knows it too I think it's also maybe was in the Challengers trailer a little bit but the scene in general just when she like finds them on the beach like at the yeah jesuse i know you're talking about sorry to keep they get beach no it's okay uh-huh where they're waiting on the little yes and she like comes up to them and she's just it's just like ah full full screen of zendaya again take me back to watch it for the first time and i was just like i'm a freaking kid in the candy store lit so beautifully and just looks gorgeous like it's just the colors of everything it's beautiful uh-huh
00:53:51
Speaker
yeah Not to now take it away from Zendaya, but that just reminded me that scene specifically has my favorite shot of the movie that I see people mention so rarely – God, I think it's after she walks away and Art is kind of – I'm sorry. And Patrick is kind of standing above – no! And one of them is kind of standing above the other one. Whichever one it is. No!
00:54:16
Speaker
I don't know I'm talking about. And you're kind of looking up at Art from down below and he's like looking down at Patrick. Yes. Yes. Oh my yeah God. Because there're it's when like one of them, i think it's Art's looking down at Patrick. yes Yes. Because they're both kind of hedging around the idea of like waiting for her to be done.
00:54:36
Speaker
um And they say like, okay, let's get up and go. And then they don't go anywhere. And he just like looks down at him with this look. With like amusement and fondness and everything. That's what it is. It's like love for your best friend.
00:54:48
Speaker
Or now. that what it is? The famous thing. It's a love triangle where every point touches. I love challengers. Anyway, I think that shot is perfect.
00:55:04
Speaker
Yeah. I think... that shot is perfect yeah i think if we're gonna still be talking about Challengers. We might as well be. One of my favorite shots in general that i feel like, yeah, a little bit, I just like shot sequence, whatever, when they first, for many reasons, when they first see Tashi play. Yeah. Love that. I mean, first of all, yeah, times 10.
00:55:27
Speaker
Fantastic, just, oh, fantastic. All the stretching, they're like, to use the word for the second time in this recording, gobsmacked. I think that's the best way that you can describe it. They're like, yeah, chins down to the floor, basically.
00:55:42
Speaker
But... Luca had the vision, obviously, to do like there's it's like a shot of her shadow, you know, and I don't know, it's just so like artistic and beautiful. Like it's a shot of her shadow. Like, yeah, like playing. um But with just like the music and the cutting and the everything, it's just i was like, i was like, this is a masterpiece. yeah This is a masterpiece.
00:56:06
Speaker
Beautiful. Fantastic. And now I'm reminded, I have to mention what my sister said last night. I was talking to my sister about this podcast and she said, oh, what are you doing? A Challengers rewatch podcast? Yeah.
00:56:20
Speaker
She's got us. Unfortunately, now that it does seem to be what's happening. I said, you can't do a rewatch podcast for a singular movie. But hey, actually, watch us Watch this. Hey, watch us. Yeah. going to do our damnedest to make it exactly that. um It's just hard to not. To talk about anything other than challenges sometimes.
00:56:39
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, again, it will. It's just one of those that will just live with me forever. It's my favorite movie. You guys thought it was kidding? Oh, no You thought I was kidding? You don't want to hear how long we can go about Challengers. We can we can we can keep going. like We're like refreshing some old God, I'm remembering now. I know. yeah yeah Maybe that's our um smooth little transition segue to maybe a like joint group. We can use this to close it out as well. Real eyes, real eyes.
00:57:09
Speaker
Sorry, Challengers is the greatest movie of the last, definitely the last like five years. Yeah. Sorry. I'll say it. like Sorry, Citizen Kane. Best of all time, maybe. Sorry. No, it's literally, so it's just masterful work. It is.
00:57:28
Speaker
And got dust at the ox Oscars last year. And let's talk about it. took that personally. that personally. I was angry the entire Oscar season last year. Yeah, yeah. That was one that I left less happy. Not even Best Score?
00:57:41
Speaker
Uh-huh. Like that actually, i was I was gobsmacked. I was taken aback. i'll I'll give it, you don't, it doesn't need to win Best Picture. Like that's okay, Best Picture in my heart, but sure.
00:57:52
Speaker
What about Best, like- Not even a score nom? Are you kidding? Not even a screenplay? a screenplay nom? my God. Put some respect on Justin Krasinski's. Krasinski's, thank you. It's genuinely upsetting to me. Yeah.
00:58:07
Speaker
He didn't write thwap in that um screenplay that many times to not get a nom. just at the Joellen Awards, Challengers wins every year forever. Yeah, that is the truth. That is the truth. We have we are resting many of our laurels on our just deeply, our deeply, intense knowledge and feelings about um challengers and you know what i don't see if i don't have a problem with it i don't i am i am i am who i am exactly i'll lean in i'll be this girl forever yeah yeah we're gonna have to see like now that we're stating stating it i hope it doesn't seem contrived if this does happen again but i am so curious of how many times we will end up like
00:58:54
Speaker
on a challenger's collection yeah exactly like how many times is it gonna happen Actually, now that you say that, I'm a little worried because it's gonna really happen. It's gonna happen. And hey, hope that people want to hear about Challengers. Yeah. This is a non-serious but pretty darn serious call then. Call to action all the people out there making movies. Make something better than Challengers for us to talk about. I'd like to see you try. like to see you try. you know, if you did it, almost...
00:59:25
Speaker
Jacob Tierney, he's, it's up there. It is, he put his best foot forward. He did his little thing. he did his little thing on that. And maybe that's something to say again about a sports romance, a queer sports romance. Look, and it wouldn't be the first time, nor will it be the last that I slash we put heated rivalry and challengers in in dialogue with each other, in conversation with each other. Because realistically, in my mind, in terms of bringing it to the screen,
00:59:55
Speaker
There's no heated rivalry without no challengers. There isn't. And that makes complete sense to me. Like just as a society in a way. Yeah. Yeah. As the like current of culture flows, like there's no, that just, it doesn't. Where we stand as a culture, we needed challengers before we could get heated rivalry. And I don't know if anyone else is brave enough to say that, but also this is not even, it's a little bit related. When I first watched the first episode, we hadn't been talking beforehand. We both watched it on our own. Obviously you did the pre-work, the prep before I did. I just had been hearing about it on my own. We did no mention of it to each other. I watched the first one and I immediately texted you, my God, have you seen one, the gay hockey show? And two, you didn't tell me it has a challenger's music. Yes. That was, I think, the first text to you when I sent about
01:00:45
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Yeah. And it does. Yeah. it's It's that specifically the bike scene in the workout room at the night of the the draft. It's some really inspired by Challengers music.
01:00:59
Speaker
Yes. it's beautiful. It's been really inspired Challengers. Shit. Yeah. And it kind of, it fades away. I think that was, it kind of may be the only scene it really is evident, at least to me, but. Yeah. It's there. It's in that scene. think so too. In a beautiful way. Mm-hmm.
01:01:13
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ah still there's something there about it there's definitely something there yeah oh look at us not yeah who would have thought we would be on these um on these topics um i guess that's probably enough but yeah that's i love how we were like need to sign off we can like wrap it up and we need to make like meet make sure we're like keeping these in a reasonable time like episodes we'll see we we can edit but we may not be able to edit that much baby we'll see Because everybody needs to hear his talk about challengers for 25 minutes. Exactly. It's never going to do it again. What if we never do it again? if this never happens again? What if we run out of things to say?
01:01:55
Speaker
What? Having to start repeating ourselves about challengers? No. I'm just laughing because there's literally so much more. There's so much more. I genuinely. That was like scratching the surface. this day, I don't think I've repeated a single thing I've ever said about challengers.
01:02:09
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Talk about corn. The well is deep. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yes. Yes. Yes. We'll have to have a whole episode specific to challengers cornblading. Yeah. Yeah. I could do it. Exactly.
01:02:21
Speaker
Exactly. whole something brewing i'm thinking it's staring at the wall i'm closing my eyes i'm watching challengers right now look you can be i think that there's evangelism for everyone there's different forms there's cathedrals everywhere for those who have to see evangelism exactly you're right um for everyone and you know what that is the mantle that i will i will carry for challenge challenge evangelist yes that's a perfect calling yeah add it to the multi-hyphenate just as a side gig it's just for fun right ask me about challenges you get shirts that say ask me about child churchs what would luca guadagnino do god
01:03:12
Speaker
Yeah. Now that's a question. yeah I've said it many times before and I will say it again. Luca Guadagnino, we have so much to talk about. So much to talk about. Literally get your ass over Get to Brooklyn now. His second pod invitation is Luca Guadagnino. He might as well come on. Yeah. And I won't even give him what I want to ask because there's a lot on that list.
01:03:37
Speaker
Yeah. would just say walk me through it. Walk me through it, brother. Just and anything. Walk me through it. And we'll find we'll find something to talk about. Uh-huh. i I gotta go to deep dinner with that guy.
01:03:50
Speaker
Incredibly. If that's not clear. Yes. Yeah. This is, this is very deadly serious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would love to, I'd love to sing his praises to his face. Give him his flowers.
01:04:01
Speaker
Yeah. God. We really could keep going. We won't. We won't. We won't. We might need to like actually ban mention of Fluco Guadagnino from this podcast or it's going to real repetitive real quick. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to find a workaround. No.
01:04:17
Speaker
We're fixated. We're fixated. And we've got something new to say every time. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. I think this has been fun episode. I think we've got to wrap it up. It's been really fun episode. It's been a great time. Hope you guys enjoyed. It was nice to chat as always. Our socials. Last time we were a bit unsure about our socials. We didn't know our social accounts. We didn't know our socials. But it's basically fixated.pod everywhere.
01:04:45
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um like god And by everywhere, I mean Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. So, you know, like, follow, subscribe. Anywhere you get your podcasts. If it's Apple Music, like Spotify, or YouTube, that is. If it's one of those three places, we know for sure. Anything else we're not quite certain about? I don't know. Contact Yeah. And yeah, let us, I guess, do let us know if you think there's anything that contends with challengers that we yeah like we're not goingnna we're not going to change our opinion, but I'm interested. I'm happy to watch something new always to see if I agree.
01:05:20
Speaker
Exactly. Exactly. I'm open to listening. if nothing else for sure for sure yeah that's like a bit of homework homework for y'all not for us um but yes please follow us watch this space watch this space as always we will be back next wednesday later we'll see you in the next exactly all right all right bye