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Never Kill a Boy on the First Date

Previously On... Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Poor Buffy can't catch a break. All she wants is just one night off from vampire-slaying duties to go on a date with poetry-loving Owen. Unfortunately, it happens to be the same night that the Anointed One shall rise... that's if Giles's calculations are correct. Join us as we rewatch one of our favourite episodes of Season 1, with loads of fantastic dialogue and some interesting parallels between Owen and Giles. Twitter/X: @Prev_On_Buffy Instagram: @previously_on_buffy TikTok: @previously_on_buffy

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Speaker: Previously on, previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Speaker: This beautiful woman comes walking up the steps of the high school, strutting her stuff, and Xander is just taking every moment of it in.

Speaker: Giles is terribly unimpressed that Buffy went behind his back and went hunting when she promised him she would.

Speaker: But is he, why is he surprised by this?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: You can tell she's really mourning the loss of Dr Gregory.

Speaker: She's like, do you remember him?

Speaker: Yeah, the guy you killed.

Speaker: Well, he taught me to do my homework.

Speaker: Hello and welcome back to previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Speaker: Well, we've watched episode five of season one, Never Kill a Boy on the First Date.

Speaker: And I must say, this is probably one of my favourite episodes of season one.

Speaker: And I know that you love it as well, Sarah.

Speaker: I do.

Speaker: And I just think what a great title for an episode.

Speaker: And the episode itself really lives up to the title.

Speaker: It's just fantastic.

Speaker: I mean, I was thinking as we were about to rewatch that it was going to be very difficult to pick characters.

Speaker: you know, favourite line and things like that, because it is just, there is just so much good dialogue in this episode.

Speaker: There is.

Speaker: I mean, I know we keep saying this every episode, it's so well written, but this is jam-packed, this episode.

Speaker: There's a lot of action, there's a lot of Buffy banter, there's a lot of vibing between the whole gang, there's new characters, there's

Speaker: There's new baddies.

Speaker: There's a return of the master.

Speaker: Angel pops up.

Speaker: There's so much that goes on in this episode, but it doesn't seem like it's overloaded.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: And I think when we were watching it, it just flew by.

Speaker: It went a lot quicker than expected.

Speaker: Yes, definitely.

Speaker: I was kind of disappointed it was over.

Speaker: Yeah, same.

Speaker: And there's a number of episodes like that where you just think, I wish they'd have extended that or added a few extra scenes.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Or at least you could see some of the outtakes just to get the most out of the episode.

Speaker: But yeah, it's great.

Speaker: And actually on the...

Speaker: this particular rewatch, we couldn't help but notice the parallels between Owen and Giles and Buffy and Giles.

Speaker: Yeah, it's very interesting.

Speaker: Not just in lines and what have you, but also with Buffy's experience.

Speaker: Giles actually sort of likens it to his own.

Speaker: It was something that I've missed or not necessarily caught upon so much.

Speaker: So it's a really well-layered episode, which you just keep getting more and more from.

Speaker: Yeah, I love that.

Speaker: And you think that it's about one particular thing, one plot line.

Speaker: And there's just it feeds into so many other things in terms of character development and dynamics between them.

Speaker: And yeah, it's just brilliant.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So much like the last episode, it's just straight in there with the action, with the fight scenes, which is great.

Speaker: So we're getting used to seeing at this point Buffy fighting vampires and she's really beaten the crap out of this guy.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, he tries and he fails.

Speaker: So this is taking place in the cemetery and yep, straight in there with the humour as well.

Speaker: Giles pops up to critique her performance.

Speaker: Well, you do get, yeah, you get Buffy's amazing banter to the vampire, and this becomes a regular addition to Buffy's arsenal when she's fighting...

Speaker: the demons and the forces of darkness, she has to have the pun, the Buffy pun.

Speaker: And this is, I think, maybe the first proper one that we get where Buffy literally says, we haven't been introduced, falls out of stake.

Speaker: I'm Buffy and you're history.

Speaker: And she goes and stakes the guy and he bursts into a big pile of ash.

Speaker: It's brilliant.

Speaker: Then we get the classic Giles banter.

Speaker: As you said, when he pops up from behind a crypt, I mean, what was he doing?

Speaker: LAUGHTER

Speaker: And he starts commenting and critiquing her on her technique.

Speaker: And execution was adequate.

Speaker: A bit too bloody for my taste.

Speaker: And I love where Buffy doesn't necessarily go, oh, okay, sorry about that.

Speaker: She just sort of goes, do you know what?

Speaker: It was my pleasure for making the world safe for humanity again.

Speaker: Don't mention it.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He's not going to get anywhere with Buffy.

Speaker: I love him.

Speaker: And Giles is interrupted after he explains to Buffy that she's expending too much energy and time.

Speaker: It should simply be plunge and move on.

Speaker: Plunge.

Speaker: And he interrupts his own thoughts when he notices a ring on the floor and he picks it up with his very nice pen, I must say.

Speaker: Yes, very nice.

Speaker: And yeah, Buffy, again, still with the banter.

Speaker: She's like, oh, great.

Speaker: I kill them.

Speaker: You fence their stuff.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's a great series, brilliant scene.

Speaker: So they spot that it's weird that a ring should remain and maybe it wasn't just a random kill.

Speaker: And Giles does say one of the regular lines that he says,

Speaker: throughout the series which is I'd best consult my books and then we cut to the master's lair so we're back yep the master is back and he's going on his big speech again saying all kinds of fancy shit yeah it's it's pretty doom and gloom stuff but it's so well delivered and you know even when it is in his

Speaker: waterproof pvc jacket with his velcro sleeves let's not forget those folks no um and he's talking about the anointed the master's great warrior and the slayer will not know him will not stop him and he will lead her into hell yeah as it is written so shall it be

Speaker: And a really crucial line, five will die and from their ashes the anointed shall rise.

Speaker: The brethren of Aurelius.

Speaker: So he basically is telling us exactly what's going to happen.

Speaker: And you're thinking, who are these five?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And he then mentions...

Speaker: As if he's reading from the book, because there's a few other vampires in front of him.

Speaker: And he's saying, and one of the brethren shall go out hunting the night before and get himself killed, because he couldn't wait to finish his job before he ate.

Speaker: We all know what that's like.

Speaker: And he's, of course, he's referring to the vampire that Buffy's just dusted.

Speaker: So we know that this guy is the Order of Aurelius.

Speaker: So there we go.

Speaker: Yeah, it's a lot of information, but they do such a good job of explaining it all very quickly in a way that doesn't get your head in a spin, like what the hell's going on.

Speaker: Yeah, and it's there for you to digest later on.

Speaker: And there's a lot of foreshadowing, actually, just in those few lines that the master said.

Speaker: So he's so, so good, the actor, Mark Metcalfe, who played the master.

Speaker: Because it must be such a difficult thing to deliver those types of dialogue blocks, just with all the teeth in.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But I love his sort of quirky sense of humour as well.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And we get a bit more of that later on in this episode, which I love.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So we hit the credits.

Speaker: And the Buffy theme plays.

Speaker: And then we're into our favourite location, the library.

Speaker: Oh, I love this place.

Speaker: Beloved library.

Speaker: I love it.

Speaker: And I'm going to call this now.

Speaker: I know this is the same as the last episode.

Speaker: I love this episode.

Speaker: It's my favourite scene.

Speaker: So this is going to be my favourite scene for this episode.

Speaker: So you've got Buffy sat on the table in a lovely, lovely green flowered dress.

Speaker: She sat there looking at this ring that they've picked up and they're looking at all the markings and things.

Speaker: Giles makes his way down from the, what do they call them?

Speaker: The stacks.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And they're trying to figure out what the symbols on the ring mean.

Speaker: And this particular occasion, Buffy has the answers and

Speaker: Instead of Giles.

Speaker: Yeah, which is interesting.

Speaker: Yeah, so Buffy's, and again, this is just hinting at, I think, Buffy's intelligence.

Speaker: You know, we've already had, previous episode, we had Dr. Gregory saying, you're really smart, Buffy.

Speaker: You just need to apply yourself.

Speaker: And we are just, we're showing, I think we're getting a little more of an inkling on, you know, Buffy's really brainy.

Speaker: She's very resourceful.

Speaker: She's a fantastic leader.

Speaker: She's obviously got her superhuman strength.

Speaker: but she's got the brains behind it as well.

Speaker: And though she doesn't enjoy it, she can do the studying.

Speaker: And she notices this sun and three stars.

Speaker: And she's like, we've seen this somewhere.

Speaker: And Giles is like, no, I don't think so.

Speaker: She's like, no, here it is.

Speaker: Here we go.

Speaker: And again, she just has to banter with him.

Speaker: So she's like two points for the Slayer while the Watcher has yet to score.

Speaker: And their little moment, their little research party is interrupted by Owen, who comes into the library.

Speaker: And Buffy immediately knows who he is and likes the fact that he's here.

Speaker: Yeah, whereas Giles does not particularly.

Speaker: He's like, what are you doing here?

Speaker: He's like, what do you want?

Speaker: He's like, a book?

Speaker: He's like, oh, oh, right.

Speaker: And this is a great, this is not my favourite line, but it's just fantastic.

Speaker: I think this sums up, again, Buffy's attitude where she's like, see, this is a school and we have students and they check out books and then they learn things.

Speaker: And Giles, his little

Speaker: Yeah, he's got some sass in him.

Speaker: I was beginning to suspect that that was a myth.

Speaker: I love it.

Speaker: So, Owen and Buffy, they have a little moment with each other and we get to know Owen a bit more.

Speaker: Yeah, he's looking for an Emily Dickinson book.

Speaker: Emily Dickinson being a poet for anyone who doesn't know.

Speaker: I had to study her at school.

Speaker: Buffy, however, does not know.

Speaker: who Emily Dickinson is and mistakes hurt as Emily Dickens.

Speaker: Yeah, which I love.

Speaker: And Owen's like, correct, says Dickinson.

Speaker: And Buffy's like, she's good also.

Speaker: It's great.

Speaker: It's a fantastic.

Speaker: I think the actor who plays Owen did such a good job with playing against Serum Shogall Geller.

Speaker: His character is obviously very socially awkward and he just comes across in just the right amount of

Speaker: socially awkward.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But he has that cool and calm suaveness.

Speaker: Very noble it is Owen.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But yeah, so Giles points Owen in the direction of the poetry section and Owen then vocalises his surprise to see Buffy in the library and

Speaker: And she's like, oh, why not?

Speaker: And he's like, oh, well, you know, you can read, I realise.

Speaker: And I do find some of his remarks to Buffy a little... Condescending?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Very much so.

Speaker: He does it again with the watch.

Speaker: And for me, I'd be like, excuse me, fuck off.

Speaker: I'm in here all the time.

Speaker: But Buffy's a little starstruck with Owen and rightfully so.

Speaker: He's a bit of all right.

Speaker: But what he really means is she doesn't come across as a bookworm.

Speaker: And, you know, the type of person to lock themselves away with a dark, with a dark book, sorry, in a dark room with musty old books, as he calls them.

Speaker: But even how he speaks.

Speaker: It's very Giles-like.

Speaker: It is very Giles.

Speaker: It's very, I say prim and proper.

Speaker: It's very sort of from that time, from the time of Emily Dickinson.

Speaker: And he even says, oh, I've offended you.

Speaker: It's like, okay, Mr. Darcy.

Speaker: As an aside, I love Giles's opinion on Emily Dickinson.

Speaker: She's a pretty good poet.

Speaker: Buffy's expecting him to say, yeah, for a girl.

Speaker: for an American yeah it's great so that I love that the whole scene and when they come back to the checkout station when Owen picked up the book that he wants and Giles takes it and starts doing all the beeping thing you can see Buffy's like oh we're both fans and Giles of course says yeah she's quite a good poet all of that but the interaction between

Speaker: Buffy and Owen.

Speaker: Giles is so unimpressed by it.

Speaker: Just check out his facial expression.

Speaker: He's like, oh, for fuck's sake.

Speaker: You can tell he's like,

Speaker: Oh, my God, not in my library.

Speaker: Go away.

Speaker: You're going to do that.

Speaker: So he's so unimpressed with, I don't know, with Buffy, with Owen.

Speaker: I think it's potentially probably more unimpressed with Owen.

Speaker: He's just come in.

Speaker: He doesn't know who he is, obviously.

Speaker: And he's interrupted his meeting with Buffy, which is very important.

Speaker: asks for a poet that he thinks is mediocre so uh but yeah it's so it's great it's so funny and then you get owen leaving and buffy's staring after owen and she's like that was owen which i was like yes i remember

Speaker: And she very quickly asked for more copies.

Speaker: I need a copy of Emily Dickinson.

Speaker: And I think this was one of your runner-up favourite lines.

Speaker: that you've mentioned yeah one of many um while the mere fact of you wanting to check out a book would be grounds for a national holiday um it's brilliant yeah it's great uh and buffy's like yeah you're right it's fine yeah vampires and then she sort of goes oh hang on does this outfit make me look fat like

Speaker: I love the contrast.

Speaker: Asking Giles, he's like, come on, focus, focus.

Speaker: Back on topic.

Speaker: So it's such a great episode.

Speaker: And I also just point out, and I've mentioned this before to yourself, and I've, well, countless times I mentioned this, but this scene in particular really highlights the change in the formats that they have done on all the digital platforms that you can watch Buffy on.

Speaker: in comparison to the original format, which is still available on the DVDs.

Speaker: And I would urge anyone to just go and purchase some of the DVDs box sets.

Speaker: They are...

Speaker: all over the place, all over the internet.

Speaker: You can grab a couple of secondhand ones for not a huge amount of money.

Speaker: But you'll really see the difference in the format, particularly with this scene.

Speaker: There's actually pretty much most of this screen has been, it's almost like zoomed in.

Speaker: So you actually lose a lot of the context.

Speaker: So, for instance, with Buffy looking down at her dress, you don't actually see her looking.

Speaker: So you just see her looking down and you can't see what she's looking at.

Speaker: And it's just silly things like that.

Speaker: And it happens again several times throughout this episode.

Speaker: But you really notice it.

Speaker: a lot in that particular scene so they cut to the cafeteria yes where it's lunchtime and Buffy and Willow are having I love this moment between them we've actually we've not really had a lot of Willow and Buffy no we haven't and I think again this this episode it has everything but it gives us that relationship that I think we've been lacking actually the last few episodes

Speaker: Yeah, we have.

Speaker: So we've had a lot of Willow and Xander and a lot of Xander and Buffy.

Speaker: but not enough Buffy and Willow, I don't think.

Speaker: And, of course, they're talking about Owen and how he's all mysterious.

Speaker: And Willow mentions he can brood for 40 minutes straight, which I love.

Speaker: And Buffy's like, yeah, well, we chatted about Emily Dickinson.

Speaker: And Willow's like, you've never read her, though.

Speaker: And Buffy presents this book and she's like, oh, you vixen.

Speaker: I love it.

Speaker: It's so good.

Speaker: It's just like, go get him, Buffy.

Speaker: She's so excited about the fact that he he likes Emily Dickinson.

Speaker: It's like this is the perfect guy.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I think she says he's sensitive yet manly.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So Willow says that, but I think it sums up Owen very nicely.

Speaker: So they join Xander at the lunch table and they have this, well Xander has this moment where, now bearing in mind they talk about slaying all the time.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: in the school hall in the library you name it it's always happening always being discussed but Xander asks how the slaying went the night before and Buffy's like Xander don't talk about it it's like well how did the laying go

Speaker: He's like, no, I didn't mean that either.

Speaker: And again, I think it just pulls us back into the context of their surroundings and, you know, how I think it's almost like the writer saying, we know that it's a little far-fetched, but just hold on, just bear with us.

Speaker: It's worth it.

Speaker: So now Buffy updates the guys.

Speaker: She says, oh, there's a vampire sect in town.

Speaker: I don't think it's for the good.

Speaker: Giles is looking into it.

Speaker: So and then we see Owen again.

Speaker: On his own.

Speaker: On his own.

Speaker: All alone.

Speaker: Maybe someone should sit with him, Buffy suggests.

Speaker: And Willow urges her on.

Speaker: On her way over.

Speaker: Enter Cordelia.

Speaker: I love her.

Speaker: As always.

Speaker: Love her.

Speaker: Yeah, it's a great scene.

Speaker: And as she is prone to doing, she bumps into Buffy.

Speaker: Well, barges into her, really.

Speaker: Quite violently.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And I just love Buffy's line to Owen.

Speaker: Cordelia's hips are wider than I thought.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I think this scene, we've had a few Cordelia Buffy moments where there's been a bit of tension.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But this, I think this is the beginning of Cordelia versus Buffy.

Speaker: They're going up against one another now.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: They have a target, which is Owen, on this occasion.

Speaker: And Cordelia has her sights set, as does Buffy.

Speaker: And they don't come completely at loggerheads with each other, but they are clashing with each other now.

Speaker: And it's just the beginning of that fractious relationship between them both.

Speaker: And I love it.

Speaker: I think it's a really good... Again, it just shows a different dynamic.

Speaker: Now, bearing in mind as well, Cordelia, when she first met Buffy, thought she was going to be one of her crowd members.

Speaker: going to be a good friend everything so it's just i love that where you can see the potential for friends to be really quite bad enemies as well but yeah it's it's a it's a great great scene um cordelia invites owen to the bronze and owen is not interested he's like who else is going

Speaker: And Cordelia is almost disappointed.

Speaker: Like, what?

Speaker: There are people other than me?

Speaker: Yeah, she's like, well, I'm going to be there.

Speaker: Who cares about anyone else?

Speaker: He's like, yeah, and who else?

Speaker: What I like about Owen, though, is he lets Cordelia down by being very direct and

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But polite as well.

Speaker: He's like, yeah, but who else?

Speaker: And he's he he's not disrespecting Cordelia.

Speaker: He's just he's showing very visibly disinterest in her.

Speaker: But Cordelia is not one to give in, which we admire her for.

Speaker: But I also admire him for just straight out asking Buffy in front of her, are you going to be there?

Speaker: Because I feel like so many people wouldn't do that.

Speaker: They wouldn't.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: They'd feel too awkward to just say it.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he said, well, I'll meet you there at eight.

Speaker: So Buffy's got a date with Owen.

Speaker: And then another great line from Cordelia.

Speaker: No, she doesn't like fun.

Speaker: It's great.

Speaker: Of course, Cordelia is sat there watching all this transpire and she's lost the first round to Buffy, which is, of course, is not going to set her on the right path.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: But can you imagine Cordelia having a conversation about Emily Dickinson?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, I think she'd probably go, yeah, great.

Speaker: Anyway, about me.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Now we're back with Buffy and Willow and they're heading through the halls and Buffy's obviously just playing down the fact that she's got this date with Owen and Willow's like, no, it's a really big deal.

Speaker: She's like, no, it's just a bunch of people.

Speaker: She's like, no, it's not.

Speaker: And Willow's like, it is.

Speaker: And she spots Giles.

Speaker: She's like, tell her.

Speaker: And Giles says, I'm afraid it is very big.

Speaker: And it's just a great merging of the scenes.

Speaker: And Willow's like, thank you.

Speaker: She's like, hang on a minute, wait.

Speaker: And they go, what are you talking about?

Speaker: And he's like, what are you talking about?

Speaker: And they both at the same time go, boys, it's great, it's brilliant.

Speaker: why what are you talking about and he says trouble yes it's awesome and the order of Aurelius have been what is it he's found he's found some writings on them yeah it's a prophecy that's it he's found a prophecy for the brethren of the order and that they would come to the master and bring him the anointed so this is what the master was talking about before yeah

Speaker: It's just now in Giles speak instead of master.

Speaker: BBC speak.

Speaker: Ominous old writing speech.

Speaker: So Willow then said, well, who's the anointed?

Speaker: He said, I don't know exactly, a warrior.

Speaker: But he'll rise from the ashes of the five on the evening of the thousandth day of the advent of septus.

Speaker: Which, of course, just so happens to be tonight.

Speaker: Which is tonight.

Speaker: As it always is.

Speaker: Yeah, Buffy's like, okay, no, not okay.

Speaker: It can't be tonight.

Speaker: Giles is like, well, my calculations are precise.

Speaker: It is tonight.

Speaker: No, they're bad calculations.

Speaker: I have a date.

Speaker: Owen.

Speaker: And he's like, and this is your favourite line, is it?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Oh my god.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the 12th century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophecy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.

Speaker: And he says it in such a scathing way.

Speaker: It's brilliant.

Speaker: Yeah, his delivery of that line is awesome.

Speaker: I love Buffy's response when she's like, okay, at this point you're abusing sarcasm.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: It was literally...

Speaker: soaked in sarcasm brilliant but giles he persists he's like no this is not a normal vampire we've got to stop him before he reaches the master uh and buffy's like but cute guy teenager but post pubescent fantasy this will just have to be put on hold the dark forces are aligning against us and we have a chance to beat them back tonight we go into battle

Speaker: Yeah, and it's such a dramatic delivery.

Speaker: Tonight we go into battle.

Speaker: Cut to not a battle.

Speaker: Buffy and Giles alone in the cemetery, nothing much happening.

Speaker: And I love the fact that Buffy is just sipping on the street.

Speaker: Really loudly slurping away.

Speaker: Through a straw.

Speaker: Wearing the most amazing tiger hat.

Speaker: Yes, actually, I think that's my favourite outfit of the episode.

Speaker: It's just, it's so, it's so, you can't not notice it.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: It's awesome.

Speaker: Yeah, so she's really miffed because they've just been sat there and Giles is going, well, Giles is just as annoyed because he thinks his calculations were correct.

Speaker: And there's nothing, there's no risings at all.

Speaker: There's no dead bodies that would potentially rise.

Speaker: And, you know, there's no fresh graves.

Speaker: More great lines as well.

Speaker: He says, well, you know what they say, 90% of the vampire slaying game is waiting.

Speaker: And Buffy says, you couldn't have told me that 90% ago.

Speaker: Brilliant.

Speaker: It's so, so good.

Speaker: So they call it quits.

Speaker: Buffy's like, so I can go.

Speaker: I can go to the bronze and find Owen.

Speaker: And he's like, oh, very well.

Speaker: Follow your hormones if you want.

Speaker: And then he does very gently raise the matter of involving someone who's unaware of her being a slayer.

Speaker: And Buffy sort of brushes this off.

Speaker: She's like, yeah, I read the back of the box.

Speaker: It's fine.

Speaker: And he's like, it could put everyone in grave danger if your role as Slayer is revealed.

Speaker: And another line.

Speaker: Fantastic line.

Speaker: But it's just one after the next in this episode.

Speaker: Well, in that case, I won't wear my button that says, I'm a Slayer, ask me how.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And Giles just doesn't... Well, I mean, what would you say to that?

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, there's nothing you can say.

Speaker: Yeah, he bows out.

Speaker: He realises he's not going to win against Buffy and her witticism.

Speaker: So he lets her leave and he mentions he was sure it was tonight.

Speaker: Just to hammer home that point so we all know.

Speaker: Yeah, it was meant to be tonight and he was right.

Speaker: So the next...

Speaker: scene we are on a bus or we see a bus and then we're yeah going to the airport by the looks of it and we essentially have a lineup through the bus where the camera rushes across you guessed it five people well four people and a little boy and

Speaker: The last guy looks like something from Apocalypse Now.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he's got this huge scar down the side of his face and tattoos and everything.

Speaker: Not that, you know, they're sort of tarring everyone with tattoos with the same brush, but he's a big bloke, isn't he?

Speaker: He's got some army combats on and he's talking about, you will be judged.

Speaker: And

Speaker: Then we cut to the bronze.

Speaker: So Buffy heads on in.

Speaker: You see her little tiger hat, her tiger hoodie.

Speaker: And she looks around for Owen and he's dancing with Cordelia.

Speaker: So, yeah, pisses Buffy off.

Speaker: And she leaves.

Speaker: She leaves, which I don't blame her.

Speaker: I think I probably would have done the same.

Speaker: And then we're back to the bus and this guy is...

Speaker: the Apocalypse Now guy, is still, he's just talking away.

Speaker: And he stood up and he's just freaking everyone out.

Speaker: I mean, this little boy, it's with his mum.

Speaker: And he's just going, the days are going to bring fire, fire coming down, judgment.

Speaker: To be honest, that's just like an average day on Dublin bus.

Speaker: Yeah, he's just giving off, you know, sort of, you know, dodgy, wacky guy vibes.

Speaker: I believe what the in-betweeners would call a bus wanker.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So, yeah, he's going on and on and on.

Speaker: He's talking about the days of judgment and are you willing to stand with the righteous and all the rest of it.

Speaker: And then we see...

Speaker: a vampire step out in front of the bus.

Speaker: Driver tries to swerve to avoid who he thinks is a person, has a great big crash, hits a pole, checks everyone's okay.

Speaker: Everyone's okay, but a little shaken.

Speaker: He steps out, heads over to the body on the ground, and of course the vampire grabs him, starts to feed off him, and then all the others clamber into the bus.

Speaker: And I think this is actually quite, it's really well done.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It just, it shows exactly what's going on.

Speaker: You know, there's a massacre going on.

Speaker: And the lights flicker off just as we hear this scream, which is the mother screaming.

Speaker: It's like, oh, I think it's a really good scene anyway.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Very sinister.

Speaker: And then we're back to the next day.

Speaker: So, and we're at Buffy's locker and Xander is there.

Speaker: So she's having a catch up with Xander about the night before saying that, well, I think Xander's like, so you just went home.

Speaker: She's like, well, what was I supposed to say?

Speaker: And I think I love this.

Speaker: It just sums up the whole thing.

Speaker: Sorry I was late.

Speaker: I was sitting in a cemetery with a librarian waiting for a vampire to rise so I could prevent an evil prophecy from coming to pass.

Speaker: She's like, or flat tire?

Speaker: It's great.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And yeah, so Buffy is, it's obviously, she's really disheartened by having seen Owen with Cordelia.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And she's like, you know, why has this happened to me?

Speaker: I can't take this anymore.

Speaker: And she's sort of, she's like, I'm just dateless.

Speaker: I'm a dateless monster.

Speaker: And she hasn't go at this poor, innocent guy walking past.

Speaker: She's like, come on, then.

Speaker: Come on, then.

Speaker: Move along, pal.

Speaker: You know this.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Xander says, oh, look, stop.

Speaker: You're overreacting.

Speaker: You could date any guy in this school.

Speaker: She's like, yeah, but I want Owen.

Speaker: I want to date Owen.

Speaker: And I love the turn of phrase that Xander has.

Speaker: And he goes, yeah, he's got a certain Owen-osity.

Speaker: But that's not too far to find.

Speaker: I mean, a lot of guys read.

Speaker: I can read.

Speaker: It's like, oh, Xander, give it up.

Speaker: She ain't interested.

Speaker: And as she's leaning on his locker, I think, Owen comes over to Buffy and

Speaker: And basically asks her, where was she?

Speaker: Why didn't she turn up?

Speaker: Which has to be confusing when you've seen him dancing with Cordelia and you'd be like, oh, is he interested in me?

Speaker: It's a little bit of hope for Buffy.

Speaker: And she comes up with a nodded excuse.

Speaker: She's like, well, my watch broke.

Speaker: We don't have any clocks in the house.

Speaker: So I didn't know what day it was, let alone time.

Speaker: And I think what's really sweet, though, is Owen was like, yeah, that happens to me a lot, too.

Speaker: He just completely forgives, forgets, moves on.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he goes, what about tonight?

Speaker: Can I take you out again tonight?

Speaker: And I like the fact that she does mention, you know, the fact that.

Speaker: She knows that he danced with Cordelia, so she wants to test him here.

Speaker: She could have overlooked, but she does say, well, hang on, you know, what's the deal with you two?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, she's like, oh, I heard that you were, you know, dancing a lot with Cordelia and...

Speaker: And she's like, no, it was like, yeah, she sort of grabbed me.

Speaker: She's kind of grabby.

Speaker: And the whole the pocket watch thing.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He takes this amazing pocket watch out and gives it to her so that she won't forget the time again.

Speaker: But Xander's reaction is priceless.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I love it.

Speaker: He looks at his wristwatch and it's this Tweety bird.

Speaker: It's like some kiddie one.

Speaker: He's suddenly horrified.

Speaker: It's like all the flashbacks to his parents buying him that watch when he was a kid and just nothing but regret.

Speaker: This is another moment though where I'm like, Owen, just leave it at that.

Speaker: When he proceeds to tell Buffy how to tell the time,

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I don't know if it's maybe because I've got maybe a chip on my shoulder, but I'd be like, fuck off, mate.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I tell you what, here's your watch back.

Speaker: Shove your date up your arse.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Don't talk to me like that, love.

Speaker: So, but yeah, anyway, they agree that tonight they're going to go on another date.

Speaker: So Buffy's on cloud number nine.

Speaker: Xander's completely pissed off with the whole thing.

Speaker: And we leave Xander looking like he's just lost the world.

Speaker: Stewing in his jealousy.

Speaker: Bless him.

Speaker: And we cut to Giles' office.

Speaker: So we don't really see much of Giles on his own.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Listening to classical music.

Speaker: Glasses off, looking very...

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: Nice, yeah.

Speaker: Words fail me.

Speaker: Nice.

Speaker: Nice will do.

Speaker: Words fail.

Speaker: Words fail when it comes to this guy.

Speaker: But yeah, he's thinking, oh, I've just got five minutes to myself.

Speaker: And Buffy rushes in like a whirlwind.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And I love it.

Speaker: I'd love to watch this scene being acted out.

Speaker: Because Sarah Michelle Gell is energy for this.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's just, it's like 100 miles an hour.

Speaker: And Giles is so world-weary in comparison.

Speaker: She's like, hi, how it's going?

Speaker: That's great.

Speaker: Well, da-da-da.

Speaker: Anyway, bye.

Speaker: No prophecy.

Speaker: Good.

Speaker: Give me the night off.

Speaker: Bye.

Speaker: She's like, oh, so it's looking really slow, right?

Speaker: Yeah, probably best to relax and regroup.

Speaker: No big disasters coming.

Speaker: That's so good.

Speaker: I'll see you tomorrow then.

Speaker: Bye.

Speaker: She just does not give him a chance.

Speaker: No, she can't get a word in edgeways.

Speaker: And the last...

Speaker: the line that Giles says and this is what we were talking about when we say there's a lot of parallels so this is this line which is she is the strangest girl that Giles says it's exactly the same line as Zoe says later on which is weird so but yeah bless him he doesn't know what hit him then and then we're back in the master's lair I love this place

Speaker: Yeah, it's very creepy, but cool.

Speaker: Very cool.

Speaker: It's really cool.

Speaker: It would be a really good place for a party.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Halloween party.

Speaker: Halloween party.

Speaker: We're really good.

Speaker: So and he's he's talking about I think he's again, it's just a really good reminder that he's trapped.

Speaker: He's down there.

Speaker: He's been down there for a very long time.

Speaker: He's forgotten what the surface is like.

Speaker: And it's so important that you bring the anointed.

Speaker: You must give your own lives.

Speaker: Don't fail to bring the anointed.

Speaker: And this moment where he goes over to one of the vampires and he, like quick as lightning, snaps at his shoulder, the vampire's shoulder.

Speaker: And you can tell the vampire's like, fuck.

Speaker: I'm literally going to get my head ripped off here.

Speaker: He pulls his fingers.

Speaker: He's like pinching his finger and thumb.

Speaker: And he goes, fuck.

Speaker: So he's caught it.

Speaker: Brilliant.

Speaker: It's great.

Speaker: And we're now in the evening.

Speaker: So Buffy's getting ready for her date and Willow's there.

Speaker: And they're asking Xander.

Speaker: So they're trying to involve Xander.

Speaker: And I can't help but think this is quite an incentive thing to do.

Speaker: Yeah, not a great idea.

Speaker: But they're asking Xander for outfit suggestions or his opinion.

Speaker: Yeah, and I have to say this whole scene is kind of, there's elements to this scene that just, oh, much like the last episode, they just make me cringe.

Speaker: It's his behaviour, isn't it?

Speaker: You think, Xander, come on, grow up.

Speaker: I know you're 16, but you should know right and wrong by now.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And you are clearly making the wrong decisions.

Speaker: And he's just behaving really so possessive.

Speaker: over someone he has no right to be possessive over,

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, he's, you know, given her awful feedback on what certain outfits would say about her and everyone in the school would think, you know, would gossip about her or think she's this, that or the other.

Speaker: It's ugh.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's a bit sick.

Speaker: It is, yeah.

Speaker: And then he proceeds to try and spy through the mirror.

Speaker: To watch her get changed.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I mean, the thing, I can sort of understand that a little more.

Speaker: for a 16-year-old boy than his opinion on, you know, Buffy choosing the wrong lipstick and therefore everyone was going to know that she's easy and her reputation will be... You know, you're thinking, God, that's a horrific thing to say.

Speaker: Yeah, to your friend as well.

Speaker: Yeah, but you wouldn't necessarily see that as a 16-year-old boy thing to say as such.

Speaker: But, you know, then...

Speaker: clocking a quick look um i can sort of understand i say i think that's a bit more realistic i'm not saying it's acceptable but it's not surprising yeah that's from certain 16 year old boys i'm so glad that you're here so i'm digging myself a hole there um so um but yeah there's a lovely interaction between

Speaker: Willow and Buffy.

Speaker: Willow's just on Buffy's side.

Speaker: And, you know, they're talking about the possibilities of what the date might entail.

Speaker: And, you know, it could involve cinema.

Speaker: It could involve a party, dancing.

Speaker: And then the doorbell rings.

Speaker: Just as, actually, Xander gets caught out when the mirror breaks.

Speaker: And they're, like, looking at him like, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker: He's saved by the bell.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And Buffy's super excited.

Speaker: She's like, that's Owen.

Speaker: She opens the door.

Speaker: It's great, Kurt.

Speaker: That's Giles.

Speaker: And she tries to shut the door on him.

Speaker: She's like, no, Buffy's not home.

Speaker: Literally.

Speaker: He's like, we need to talk.

Speaker: I was like, no, sort of.

Speaker: And Giles is super excited with a newspaper in hand.

Speaker: He shoves it in her face, pretty much.

Speaker: And of course, the headline is Five Die in Van Accident.

Speaker: Which is ominous.

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: And of course, because the five shall rise out of the ashes, five shall rise the one.

Speaker: which is the anointed.

Speaker: So Giles believes that this was or is worth investigating.

Speaker: Buffy's like, it's a car crash.

Speaker: And he's like, yeah, I know it's not quite, it doesn't quite link up, but I think this is it.

Speaker: And he then mentions the Apocalypse Now guy who was sought by the police for double murder.

Speaker: So he thinks it's got to be him.

Speaker: It's got to be the anointed.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And they're all at the funeral home, Sunnydale funeral home.

Speaker: And Jaffy's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker: Why are you trying to hurt me?

Speaker: It's like, sorry, beg your pardon.

Speaker: And in this moment, Owen shows up.

Speaker: And he's very confused to see the librarian standing in his date's house.

Speaker: I mean, it must... You can take this... It's a great scene.

Speaker: Oh, actually, can I take... I actually quite like this scene.

Speaker: I think this potentially might be...

Speaker: Oh, it's such a difficult episode to... It is.

Speaker: It's very difficult.

Speaker: But the awkwardness with all of them.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Xander and Willa are like, shit.

Speaker: He's like, oh, for fuck's sake.

Speaker: Why is he... He keeps walking in on these most awkward moments.

Speaker: Owen's like, what the fuck's going on?

Speaker: Yeah, he's like, why is the librarian?

Speaker: And then Giles is like, this is beyond inconvenient.

Speaker: Is that you have a date?

Speaker: And Bobby's like, yeah, I'll return those overdue books by tomorrow.

Speaker: And I was like, wow, you really care about your work.

Speaker: So will Owen Zander take Owen to one side?

Speaker: And I love Zander's interaction with Owen.

Speaker: When he's proceeding to give Owen some advice, he's

Speaker: And it's saying, well, you know, she doesn't like to be kissed.

Speaker: Actually, she doesn't like to be touched.

Speaker: Willow's like, Xander.

Speaker: And Xander goes, as a matter of fact, don't even look at her.

Speaker: And he says it in such a threatening way.

Speaker: Yeah, it's very fatherly sort of, don't touch my daughter, you know.

Speaker: So meanwhile, Giles and Buffy, Giles is like, another date?

Speaker: Don't you ever do anything else?

Speaker: He's like, this is the first one.

Speaker: This is my maiden voyage.

Speaker: Leave me alone.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Give me a break.

Speaker: And then Buffy's trying to get out of having to go to the funeral home, just saying, look, this doesn't make any sense.

Speaker: It's a car crash.

Speaker: I've not had a day off in a while.

Speaker: And she's obviously working.

Speaker: She's working, Giles.

Speaker: Yeah, good point.

Speaker: Yeah, that's true.

Speaker: And she's like, you know, cranky slayer is a careless slayer.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And I love the Clark Kent line.

Speaker: Clark Kent has a job.

Speaker: I just want to go on a date.

Speaker: This is the 90s, the 1990s.

Speaker: I love it.

Speaker: Oh, well, I suppose it's a slim lead.

Speaker: She's like, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker: And she's like, look, if the apocalypse comes, beat me.

Speaker: I love it.

Speaker: It's iconic.

Speaker: Perfect.

Speaker: You can get that on T-shirts, mugs, you name it.

Speaker: And this is the episode.

Speaker: And I'm really not surprised at that amazing line that has endured for so many years and become one of Buffy's most famous lines is from this episode because there's so many amazing one-liners in this.

Speaker: But yeah, so Owen comes back into the scene and he's like, okay, is everything cool?

Speaker: And Buffy's like, yep, all done.

Speaker: And then they set off.

Speaker: So Buffy and Owen head on out.

Speaker: Giles is left.

Speaker: I love how Buffy just leaves Giles in her house.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Willow and Xander.

Speaker: She's not going to lock up or anything.

Speaker: It's like, bye.

Speaker: And where's her mother during all this?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Buffy's mum is at the gallery or something.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Having a dinner out herself.

Speaker: Conveniently, not there at all.

Speaker: And Willow and Xander check in with Giles and say, what's going on?

Speaker: And Giles is like, oh, it's the funeral home.

Speaker: I'm going to head there just in case.

Speaker: And there's another great back and forth between Xander and Willow where they are having a conversation, but they are thinking of two different things.

Speaker: So Xander is thinking that it's bad news, that they should go along for Buffy and Owen.

Speaker: And then Willow is saying exactly the same about Giles going to the funeral home.

Speaker: By himself.

Speaker: By himself.

Speaker: That he could get into trouble.

Speaker: So, and Zan is like, oh, he's super librarian.

Speaker: He'll be fine.

Speaker: Because librarians often hang out in funeral homes.

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: But Buffy and Owen, no, that's not fine.

Speaker: We need to go and check them out.

Speaker: So, and then we head to the bronze and this song is amazing.

Speaker: The one that's playing is called Strong and it's called, and it's by Velvet Chain.

Speaker: Again, another one on the, on the soundtrack.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's a great music in this episode.

Speaker: It is.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's really, really great.

Speaker: And yeah,

Speaker: Owen is talking about Emily Dickinson and how much he loves her poetry.

Speaker: God, why doesn't he just date her?

Speaker: Yeah, I must say, at this point I'm thinking, is this all he talks about?

Speaker: So, it's very one-dimensional, is Owen?

Speaker: Yeah, we don't know what that's like, to talk about the same person again and again.

Speaker: No, not at all.

Speaker: I mean, you know, hey...

Speaker: Hey, time down, okay?

Speaker: We've been very good.

Speaker: We've been really, really good.

Speaker: We have.

Speaker: But anyway, Giles.

Speaker: But we do get a little insight into Owen's attitude and his intrigue with morality and death.

Speaker: And what he liked about Emily Dickinson was that, you know, he likens himself, you know, he said, oh, she was very, her life was uneventful, very quiet.

Speaker: I don't get out much.

Speaker: And he then says, oh, you know, no, it is my fault that I don't get out much.

Speaker: I just find most girls a bit frivolous.

Speaker: Which again is a bit old.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Very interesting choice of word there.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: um and and then he continues to drive that steak uh and he's like yeah you know there's more important things in life than dating and it's like all right giles yeah buffy looks very disappointed and is probably then thinking not you as well yeah

Speaker: Well, she's actually looking down because she's reminded of her beeper thing.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: What is it?

Speaker: I can't remember what it's called.

Speaker: Beeping thing.

Speaker: Is it a pager?

Speaker: Pager.

Speaker: Pager.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I never had those.

Speaker: That was a little before me.

Speaker: I just associate them with doctors and nurses on call.

Speaker: Yeah, it's an odd thing for a teenager to have had, I think.

Speaker: But I love when they just drop in just bits of technology.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because it really dates.

Speaker: And I think that actually was, that was why they made a big decision to keep technology out of it.

Speaker: Because, you know, of course, we were, as the seasons progressed, you know, mobile phones,

Speaker: were regularly used by a lot more people.

Speaker: And of course, it can negate a whole plot line by just saying, well, I'll just call them.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And they deliberately left them out.

Speaker: But the other reason is so it doesn't date the series so much.

Speaker: Whereas now you often have that trope of someone's phone is dead when they need to call someone from the edge of a cliff or wherever.

Speaker: Yeah, it's always really convenient.

Speaker: You know, there's no signal, which is not too unrealistic to be fair.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: But they go and head out to the dance floor.

Speaker: So Buffy's like, no, everything's fine.

Speaker: I'm enjoying myself.

Speaker: And she genuinely is really enjoying herself with Owen.

Speaker: And he actually points out

Speaker: He's very observant.

Speaker: He actually points out that it's like he's with two different people.

Speaker: So there's this Buffy here in the moment and then there's Buffy elsewhere.

Speaker: And their moment is then interrupted yet again by another amazing Cordy moment where, again, it's Cordy v Buffy.

Speaker: Yeah, she's so brazen.

Speaker: She just strides on up there and tries to poach him from Buffy.

Speaker: Yeah, she's like, oh, here you are, all on your own.

Speaker: And he's like, but I'm not alone.

Speaker: I'm with Buffy.

Speaker: She's like, yeah, do you want to dance?

Speaker: Yeah, not listening to you.

Speaker: And her comment about him helping the needy.

Speaker: Oh, I know.

Speaker: It's so mean.

Speaker: It's brutal.

Speaker: But Buffy wins out again, so it's 2-0 to Buffy.

Speaker: When Owen basically says, no, I'm with Buffy, and Buffy says, go away, Cordelia.

Speaker: And then we're heading to the funeral home with the Gilesmobile rolling into play.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So I have got a bit of information about that car, but it's not this episode.

Speaker: It's a lot further along.

Speaker: But all I will say is I think at this point, the car is drivable under its own steam by the looks of it.

Speaker: That is not the case for the next few series.

Speaker: Sorry, seasons, seasons.

Speaker: And he gets out of his car and he's got a big bag of steaks and all sorts.

Speaker: And I think it's just a really very straightforward camera work where he hears something, he looks over, the camera follows where he's looking, then it swings back into view.

Speaker: So he turns back around.

Speaker: And right in front of him is a vampire.

Speaker: And it's an ugly looking vampire.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: These vampires look scarier this episode.

Speaker: They do.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: They do look very creepy.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he whisks out a... Oh, no, he doesn't, does he?

Speaker: He looks around and he just very simply...

Speaker: Because of course he, because it's a PG-12 or whatever it was at the time, he can't swear.

Speaker: So Giles just says, damn.

Speaker: He knows he's in trouble.

Speaker: Commercial break.

Speaker: Commercial break.

Speaker: Ooh.

Speaker: And Giles is in trouble.

Speaker: And we're back at the same scene.

Speaker: Giles is caught.

Speaker: I think there's two vampires.

Speaker: And these are the Order of Aurelius.

Speaker: So these are the really... I think they're really old, so they look really ugly.

Speaker: I think that's why they're so bad-looking.

Speaker: Maybe.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: And he then pulls across out from his bag and holds it up.

Speaker: And of course, they cower away from the crucifix.

Speaker: And he runs inside, which I don't understand why he did this.

Speaker: Like, this is the point where I'd be in that car and I would just, it'd be full steam ahead.

Speaker: Or, well, you know, I wouldn't have high hopes for... To be fair, he probably looked at his car and thought, that's not going to fucking work.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's literally, have you seen, I'm completely digressing now, but have you seen Alan Partridge?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: When he shouts at someone and then he tries to wind the window up.

Speaker: And they're heading towards him.

Speaker: He's like, oh, no.

Speaker: And he's winding the window up manually.

Speaker: And it's really slow.

Speaker: He can't do it any faster.

Speaker: It's probably, yeah, the car would probably be like snail's pace.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: The vampire's just walking alongside of him.

Speaker: So, yeah, OK, actually, on second thought, he probably would have been safe from the building.

Speaker: Or just running, just lagging it.

Speaker: Yeah, just run.

Speaker: But no, he runs inside into the funeral game.

Speaker: With a load of corpses.

Speaker: With a load of corpses that potentially also has the anointed inside.

Speaker: But, you know, he's super librarian, isn't he?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And they follow him in because, of course, they can come into a public building.

Speaker: Then we're back to the bronze and velvet chain.

Speaker: who I believe are actually on the stage in the bronze.

Speaker: They're playing a different song called Treason.

Speaker: Another really good song, but it's not on the soundtrack.

Speaker: So you just need to find Velvet Chain on Spotify or wherever it is.

Speaker: And Owen and Buffy are still dancing and they're enjoying themselves.

Speaker: And it's all lovely and great.

Speaker: And Buffy's like, yeah, I feel almost like a girl.

Speaker: Almost like a girl.

Speaker: Almost like a girl.

Speaker: And then we're back into the funeral home.

Speaker: Now, again, we're back and forth.

Speaker: So we know what this is.

Speaker: And Giles is running around trying to find a safe space.

Speaker: Why he tries to open the flower room, I don't know.

Speaker: But fortunately, fortuitously, it's locked.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he then runs into, I don't know what room this would be.

Speaker: Is it the morgue?

Speaker: Yeah, I thought it was a morgue.

Speaker: Yeah, because there's bodies in there.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he looks around and he's like, he's pulling, it's just like anything and everything.

Speaker: I mean, he does pull a filing cabinet, which you think, yeah, okay.

Speaker: Yeah, big bulky thing.

Speaker: in front of the door makes sense a chair not so much but he's desperate it's fine we understand and the windows are all barred when he goes over to them and then i must say it always gets me when willow and zander open the window it always scares the shit out of me but also the windows it's open already i don't understand but yeah ventilation

Speaker: Ventilation, yes.

Speaker: Well, you know, yeah.

Speaker: It gets a bit smelly in there.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So they've arrived.

Speaker: They've just seen the two vampires rushing.

Speaker: They scared the shit out of Giles.

Speaker: He thinks someone's about to attack.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And it's very similar reaction to the cat in The Witch.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: He's like, oh.

Speaker: LAUGHTER

Speaker: Nice kitty.

Speaker: Nice kitty.

Speaker: And they, so Xander and Willow, they spot the two guys running in after Giles and he's trapped.

Speaker: And then

Speaker: they actually say, oh, this looks like a job for Buffy, which I'm sure is a play on the, is it Superman?

Speaker: This looks like a job for Superman.

Speaker: And Giles is like, yeah, she has her beeping thing.

Speaker: I don't know what it's called either, mate.

Speaker: It's fine.

Speaker: Now, for those of you that don't know what the beeping thing is, the pager thing, basically you could send a message via a phone,

Speaker: to the pager and it would come up in text form.

Speaker: I don't know how you would send the words from the phone, but you needed a phone to do it.

Speaker: He says no phone, of course, meaning there's no phone in the room.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Which is what I think that's what he means.

Speaker: Yeah, it's very confusing for people who are like, what's a pager?

Speaker: What's the 1990s?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: This was the 20th century.

Speaker: So the best thing is Xander and Willow have to go and find Buffy.

Speaker: That's all we need to know.

Speaker: And Giles is like, do hurry.

Speaker: Yeah, please hurry.

Speaker: So we go back to the bronze.

Speaker: Owen and Buffy are chatting away.

Speaker: He asks if she wants something to eat.

Speaker: And Cordelia is literally seething in the corner, in the shadows, and

Speaker: And she's like, oh, disgusting.

Speaker: So inappropriate, all in public.

Speaker: I mean, I've never seen a girl throw herself at a guy like that, revolting.

Speaker: She's really, you know, really, well, unfairly slagging Buffy off.

Speaker: And then Angel walks past her.

Speaker: And she's immediately attracted to him.

Speaker: Oh, and who?

Speaker: Oh, hello.

Speaker: Salty goodness.

Speaker: It's brilliant.

Speaker: And when she says, pick up the phone, call 911, that boy is going to need some serious oxygen after I'm through with him.

Speaker: It's like, wow, Cordelia.

Speaker: And she stalks after Angel, like properly goes after him.

Speaker: And then, of course, realizes he's talking to Buffy.

Speaker: It's like, oh, my God, this girl just gets everybody I want.

Speaker: I think this really sums up Cordelia's character, though, when she actually says, why is this happening to me?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And you think, okay, all right.

Speaker: So, yeah, so we have a lovely interaction between Angel and Buffy.

Speaker: And they're really sort of clashing.

Speaker: Their attitudes are grinding against each other a little here because Angel's a bit impatient with Buffy.

Speaker: And Buffy's like, oh, here we are again, you know, doom and gloom guy.

Speaker: And Angel's like, there's some serious shit happening and you need to be out there.

Speaker: Buffy's just had enough of being told what to do by these guys in her life.

Speaker: Yeah, because it is always the guys.

Speaker: Yeah, telling her.

Speaker: And she's like, I know, prophecy, anointed one, yada, yada, yada, go away.

Speaker: I'm on a date.

Speaker: For someone who is older than Buffy, because he's clearly older, he has to, you know, and he's just telling her about how dangerous tonight is and how important it all is.

Speaker: But he has to say, oh, you're on a date?

Speaker: Yeah, it's like, what are you, Xander?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So, yeah, there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of similarities between the two, to be honest.

Speaker: So he's showing his immaturity, I think, as well.

Speaker: And Buffy's just getting so, she's like, yes, I'm on a date for fuck's sake.

Speaker: Leave me alone.

Speaker: I'm trying to be on a date.

Speaker: And then we get this awkward moment.

Speaker: Yeah, introduction.

Speaker: Yeah, where it's like, oh, this is a guy that I don't really know.

Speaker: And this is the guy I'm trying to have a date with and I don't really know.

Speaker: And I'm now introducing these two guys I don't know together.

Speaker: And it's the most awkward thing.

Speaker: But they have this, like, hey, hey.

Speaker: And Owen's like, how do you know Buffy?

Speaker: And Angel's like, work.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's like, you work?

Speaker: You work.

Speaker: And then this whole moment, thankfully for Buffy, is interrupted by Willow and Xander just running in, bouldering up to them and basically saying, shit's going down.

Speaker: But of course they can't say that because Owen is there.

Speaker: So they have to pretend to be a couple and suggest a double date.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And Buffy doesn't get the hint at first.

Speaker: She's like, so you two are a thing.

Speaker: Yeah, I didn't know you were seeing each other.

Speaker: And they're like, oh, well, you know, why find it?

Speaker: And the offer, Xander is like, you know, because of the fun, we can have a double date and, you know, go somewhere together.

Speaker: And Buffy's like, yeah, no, no, it's just me and Owen.

Speaker: Please leave us alone.

Speaker: And Xander's thinking, I'm just going to have to be really, really, really obvious now.

Speaker: And he mentions the funeral home.

Speaker: Willow's like, yeah, I always wanted to go there.

Speaker: And it's now dawning on Buffy.

Speaker: Because, of course, Giles has mentioned the funeral home to her just before.

Speaker: And Owen, surprisingly, pipes up.

Speaker: And he's like, yeah, that sounds really cool.

Speaker: We can sneak in.

Speaker: So it completely backfires.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's like, no, no, no.

Speaker: You're not supposed to do this.

Speaker: And Xander was like, yeah, there's some guys in there.

Speaker: They seem to be having fun.

Speaker: Fun meaning they are vampires and they're causing a ruckus.

Speaker: So Buffy, again, with an amazing line that is said multiple times throughout the series, she says, bite me, in exasperation to herself, looks over to Angel, and I really like his look with this.

Speaker: And he's like, yeah, I told you, shit's about to hit the fan, and you need to be out there.

Speaker: And Buffy does the right thing.

Speaker: She says, right, Owen, I've got to go.

Speaker: And Owen's like, no, no, no.

Speaker: We're going to the funeral home, aren't we?

Speaker: There's a double date.

Speaker: And she's like, no, no, I've really got to go.

Speaker: But I will be back.

Speaker: She says that thing about, you know how you said it was like, I was like two people.

Speaker: One of me is having a really good time and the other needs to go.

Speaker: It's very sweet.

Speaker: And I think...

Speaker: You can see Buffy realising, and I think this is it, this is the parallels.

Speaker: So this whole episode is about parallels.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And this is where Buffy realises that she has to be two different people.

Speaker: Mm-hmm.

Speaker: And she has to sacrifice one or the other.

Speaker: And her sense of duty wins out, of course.

Speaker: And she's like,

Speaker: I've got to go.

Speaker: I will be back, though, I promise.

Speaker: And she heads off, leaving Owen.

Speaker: And this is a really great set-up scene where you've got Buffy on the right side of the screen, Owen on the left.

Speaker: But in the middle of them, watching and listening, of course, is Angel.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: When Buffy leaves the screen, we just see Owen and then Angel in the background.

Speaker: And quite really surprisingly, she runs back into shot and properly lays a kiss on him, which sends him, well, speechless.

Speaker: Until, and he says it to Angel, because Angel walks up over to him.

Speaker: He mutters, she's the strangest girl.

Speaker: Which is, of course, what Giles said.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So, yeah, it's an odd one.

Speaker: And I think this is where the parallels come in.

Speaker: So you have Owen, which is the Buffy who is the normal girl.

Speaker: And she's already mentioned it.

Speaker: I feel like a normal girl.

Speaker: That's Owen.

Speaker: That's her potential.

Speaker: And then you've got the Giles side, the Slayer side, and her duty.

Speaker: And...

Speaker: that is obviously beating down and raining down on her.

Speaker: Yeah, so I think that's, it's definitely an episode of Parallels.

Speaker: Definitely.

Speaker: So they arrive at the funeral home and you think that's going to be it then for Owen, but it turns out he has actually followed them there really inconveniently.

Speaker: And, you know, Buffy's like, oh no, because it's not like she's ever, you know, gone against what Giles told her not to do.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So they are, well, they're all in the,

Speaker: They're in the corridor at the moment, aren't they?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: They're trying to ascertain.

Speaker: So Buffy's like, where is he?

Speaker: Because, of course, Giles is stuck in that morgue room.

Speaker: And Buffy heads off, well, as they say to Owen, to make sure that there's no guards there.

Speaker: Erwin is just obsessed with seeing a dead body.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because he doesn't get out much, so, you know.

Speaker: No, but, you know.

Speaker: It's a new one for him.

Speaker: I get out a lot, and, you know, you don't need to see a dead body to qualify for being out a lot.

Speaker: So, yeah, he's definitely, he's obsessed with, which we already know because Emily Dickinson, he's obsessed with morality and how morbid she was.

Speaker: He's also incredibly morbid.

Speaker: Buffy walks into the morgue and the door is open and it's trashed.

Speaker: Everything is everywhere.

Speaker: There's bits and pieces strewn all over the place.

Speaker: All the bars on the windows are all bent open and ripped open, which doesn't look or bode well.

Speaker: And Buffy

Speaker: very quietly she calls after Giles and he swings this door open right on cue slides out on this it's a gurney I think isn't it yeah where there's a body which I love it it's just you can see it's very clearly a mannequin without any arms but yeah bless him he slides into the shot and

Speaker: and he's oh good it is you and uh he says oh with a i was more than a match for for the two brethren that came in here she's like meaning and he's like i hid and this chap yeah this chap was good enough to bunk with me um so uh

Speaker: Anyway, he jumps down and they, well, Buffy's like, were they here because of you or is it for the prophecy?

Speaker: And he says, well, we need to find that out because we don't know if the anointed is here or has been taken.

Speaker: And he's not sure because I don't know what these brethren mean to do.

Speaker: find the anointed or give him something.

Speaker: It's all very vague.

Speaker: And of course, they might be long gone with him now.

Speaker: So they then say, right, okay, we need to find out.

Speaker: Buffy's like, right, okay, I just need to get Owen and the others out of harm's way.

Speaker: And Joes is like, Owen's here.

Speaker: You brought a date?

Speaker: We brought a date?

Speaker: She's like, I didn't bring him, he came.

Speaker: And this, this is my favourite line of the episode.

Speaker: Buffy, when I said you could slay vampires and have a social life, I didn't mean at the same time.

Speaker: So, and at this point, Buffy's like, I will get rid of him.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: And of course, Strauss points out, he's like, you can't just let him walk out there.

Speaker: because the brethren are out there.

Speaker: And Charles is like, I'll just, I'll go.

Speaker: And she's like, no, my God, he's going to have more questions.

Speaker: And I must say, I agree with Buffy here, because she's already had to hide the fact that this librarian was in her house.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Then her best friends turn up.

Speaker: Then her, apparently a work colleague, turns up.

Speaker: Now they're at the funeral home.

Speaker: With the librarian.

Speaker: With now the librarian.

Speaker: It's a very odd, you can see Buffy sort of going, oh my God, I've got too many plates to spin here.

Speaker: And this is where her lives collide.

Speaker: And she actually says a very similar, actually, sort of tone when in the first episode, Welcome to the Hellmuth, when she's leaving the bronze to go after Willow and the vampire that Willow doesn't know is a vampire.

Speaker: And Giles says, oh, I'll come with you.

Speaker: She said, I'll take care.

Speaker: I will take care of it.

Speaker: And it's the tone of phrase that she has, which is like, no, I will take care of it.

Speaker: Not you.

Speaker: I'm going to do it.

Speaker: And she runs off and she heads around the corner and sees the others.

Speaker: Willow's like, is everything OK?

Speaker: Thinking, is Giles OK?

Speaker: OK.

Speaker: And of course, Buffy's like, yeah, it's fine.

Speaker: Can't say, yes, the librarian who is here, by the way.

Speaker: He's here again.

Speaker: He's popping up.

Speaker: Yeah, he's fine.

Speaker: And Owen's like, no, we can't go yet.

Speaker: We're not done looking around.

Speaker: And Buffy's like, let's find a nice, safe, fun room to look around in because we can't leave.

Speaker: Well, they head towards the office, don't they?

Speaker: And Owen's like, oh, we tried in there, but it's locked.

Speaker: And Buffy's like,

Speaker: breaking the lock with ease no it's not heads on in and basically yeah owens owens like well i don't think we'll find much in here buffy's that's the plan so owens a lot more confused now by buffy's attitude of hiding yeah and hiding away from any danger and then she has to suddenly run off to use the bathroom

Speaker: Yeah, let's go to the bathroom.

Speaker: Which is code for, I need to get back to the librarian.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And she instructs them to barricade the door and she heads back down the hallway and back to Giles in the morgue where they start

Speaker: looking for the body.

Speaker: And this scene is really great.

Speaker: I mean, they use some of this in the opening.

Speaker: But if you watch it as many times as I have, you will notice that the camera is in the same position and it's looking at the same thing in the background.

Speaker: And all they've done very, very cleverly, very simply, is just change the height of the actor.

Speaker: that opens the door.

Speaker: So there's a mix of Buffy and Giles opening the doors.

Speaker: And they've obviously got one of them on their knees or on a table or hidden down or whatever.

Speaker: And so there's one, the last one that Buffy's bending down into.

Speaker: So it looks like it's the bottom, the bottom level.

Speaker: So, but it's, yeah, it's actually the same thing.

Speaker: same one, so they clearly put the camera up, set it up, and filmed that whole scene in one go.

Speaker: That is really cool.

Speaker: It looks really good.

Speaker: Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker: I mean, it's only, you know, you see it so many times, you go, oh, the clock's in the same place.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Now, they open up the last drawer and find that there's nothing there, no dead bodies at all.

Speaker: And meanwhile, in the office,

Speaker: Willow and Xander are piling furniture, just as useful items of furniture as Giles was doing.

Speaker: So they've decided to put cushions in front of the door.

Speaker: Stuff like that.

Speaker: Because that'll work.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And Owen is looking around and he opens this curtain and there's a body covered with a sheet.

Speaker: And he, again, very oldie-wellie, says, oh my.

Speaker: It's very, yeah.

Speaker: very 1800s.

Speaker: And then we're back into the morgue again.

Speaker: Buffy and Giles are still looking.

Speaker: It's a great little montage of opening the drawers.

Speaker: And there's nothing, absolutely nothing.

Speaker: And they just then say, well, the anointed must be gone.

Speaker: And Buffy's like, well, this is where all the

Speaker: dead bodies are kept, right?

Speaker: But of course, Owen's looking at a dead body right now through this pane of glass in this other room.

Speaker: And he said, I've never seen a body before.

Speaker: I've read a lot about death.

Speaker: I've not seen a dead body.

Speaker: And he then notices that

Speaker: the hand twitch, and his, bless him, so innocently says, do they usually move?

Speaker: Of which then there is a shitstorm when the sheet, when the guy sits up, pulls the sheet off.

Speaker: And we see a familiar face.

Speaker: The Apocalypse Now guy, but he's now a vampire.

Speaker: And he looks really, he's a really good baddie.

Speaker: He just looks...

Speaker: He's very scary.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he looks back at them and he goes, I have been judged.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: You say so.

Speaker: They are, yeah, they're frozen to the spot.

Speaker: And they realise, well, obviously, Owen has never seen anything like this, let alone a dead body.

Speaker: And this is just, I mean, how many times they had to do this, I don't know.

Speaker: But Apocalypse Now walks over to the glass window.

Speaker: And in one go, fucking headbutts it.

Speaker: Smash.

Speaker: I mean, it's so hard.

Speaker: It's unbelievable.

Speaker: And how he does it, it's like, doosh.

Speaker: And the whole thing goes.

Speaker: I mean, I don't know if they had like a trigger or something to make it, but it's perfect.

Speaker: It's great.

Speaker: Or a sugar glass or something, isn't it?

Speaker: It must be.

Speaker: It must be.

Speaker: And at this point, they literally start screaming and trying to, you know, go get all the furniture, all the cushions out of the way.

Speaker: I mean, we've all been there, haven't we, where we've sat on a friend's sofa or friend's mum's sofa and there's about 50 pillows.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: 50 cushions.

Speaker: And you have to move about 10 of them on the floor before you can sit down.

Speaker: That's essentially what the guys had piled up against this door.

Speaker: So actually it probably would have kept everyone out.

Speaker: But the smashing of the glass, Buffy and Giles here, and she starts heading over to the office.

Speaker: Meanwhile, in the office, which they've locked in, this apocalypse now is, he's going, he is risen in me.

Speaker: He fills my head with song.

Speaker: And all the rest of it.

Speaker: And then he says, I actually had to cook.

Speaker: I had to put the, what is it?

Speaker: Subtitles.

Speaker: The subtitles.

Speaker: And I was like, does he actually say this?

Speaker: He says pork and beans.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I was like, what?

Speaker: I'm sorry.

Speaker: Pork and beans.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Pork and beans.

Speaker: I can smell you.

Speaker: He's very hungry.

Speaker: He's, yeah, he's ready.

Speaker: He's ready to go.

Speaker: And he steps out into the office.

Speaker: He steps over.

Speaker: the window frame and they just about make it out and they stop running out and he's taunting after them.

Speaker: He's like, I suck the blood from your hearts.

Speaker: He sees me and stuff like that.

Speaker: It's horrible.

Speaker: He's got real good cadence to him.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And they all run into Buffy and they're like, he's in there, he's in there.

Speaker: They're just chasing.

Speaker: She's like, right, get out now.

Speaker: Go, go, go.

Speaker: And they continue running.

Speaker: And you can hear him singing before you see him.

Speaker: And I think that's what makes him scarier.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: When singing is involved, it's always that little bit more creepy.

Speaker: Yeah, definitely.

Speaker: And I think they use that again in another episode later on in season three.

Speaker: And it really, really works.

Speaker: It's so, so effective.

Speaker: Yeah, and then Xander, Willow and Owen, they get to the exit, but it's blocked.

Speaker: So the other vampires are stood outside.

Speaker: But for some reason, they can't go in now, conveniently.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I don't quite know what's happening there.

Speaker: And they carry on running around and they hit a dead end.

Speaker: And Owen is getting a bit, he's like, this is too much.

Speaker: Buffy rushes into the morgue, meanwhile, and Giles is still there.

Speaker: I don't know what he's doing.

Speaker: Sort of filing his books or something.

Speaker: And Buffy's like, I need a steak.

Speaker: Have you got a steak?

Speaker: And she rushes back out.

Speaker: Before she does, he's like, what should I do?

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: And she's like, you've got to go outside and make sure the others are okay.

Speaker: But before she heads out, before that happens, Apocalypse turns up, fucking grabs Buffy and throws her like a rag doll into all the silver casing where all the dead bodies are stored.

Speaker: And it actually knocks her unconscious.

Speaker: So we actually have a knockout, a Buffy knockout as well.

Speaker: which is unbelievable, because I don't think that really happens.

Speaker: No, no.

Speaker: Giles screams after Buffy and rushes over to her, even though this apocalypse bloke's coming in

Speaker: We need to actually find out what his name is.

Speaker: It doesn't matter.

Speaker: His name is Apophalypse.

Speaker: He's bare-chested as well.

Speaker: And he's just literally, he's so well built.

Speaker: He's one of those people that has to, they have to almost waddle from side to side when they walk.

Speaker: You know, when they, because they don't walk, they shift.

Speaker: shift the body forward and he's just going he's saying all sorts of shit as well just the same madman stuff is what he was talking about pork and beans blah blah blah pork and beans I can smell you laughing

Speaker: So can I at this point.

Speaker: And back in the hall, Owen, bless him, decides that Buffy needs help.

Speaker: He's very heroic.

Speaker: Obviously, he doesn't know what's in store.

Speaker: But I think he's showing his worth and he rushes

Speaker: towards the morgue direction and then the other two follow Buffy's just about waking up but still out of it and everything and Apocalypse is upon Giles now and we all know how this is going to go

Speaker: But he tries his best.

Speaker: He does.

Speaker: He's got his cross, his trusty little cross, and he holds it up.

Speaker: I think he was obviously quite religious before he was turned,

Speaker: And he's like, why does he hurt me?

Speaker: You know, because it's burning him and stuff.

Speaker: Which is actually what Buffy asked Giles earlier in the episode.

Speaker: Oh, yes.

Speaker: Why do you want to hurt me?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Another parallel.

Speaker: I missed that.

Speaker: That's a really good one.

Speaker: And he just literally just slaps Giles' hand away.

Speaker: Cross goes flying, grabs Giles, picks him up.

Speaker: throws him like another ragdoll into the other wall on the other side of the room.

Speaker: Giles hits his head as usual, but he hits it off the worst possible thing.

Speaker: There's some sort of button on the wall that activates the furnace.

Speaker: Yes, because it's the crematorium, isn't it?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That they're in.

Speaker: So this room has got everything.

Speaker: It's got literally...

Speaker: Central heating, it's got a fridge...

Speaker: It's secure.

Speaker: It's got a filing cabinet.

Speaker: It's got useless bits of furniture.

Speaker: But it's missing bars from the window now.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Unfortunately.

Speaker: Get those repaired.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So, and the window is unfortunately open as well all the time.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: To let the heat out.

Speaker: To let the smell.

Speaker: Let the smell.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Which, of course, apocalypse can smell them, of course.

Speaker: And yeah, so Giles is now unconscious.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Owen runs in, sees Buffy, and Apocalypse is just about to smash Buffy again and completely obliterate her.

Speaker: When Owen grabs this silver tray and smashes it into the back of Apocalypse's back, and every time it gets me, I'm like, oh, God, I actually feel it.

Speaker: I feel it so much because there's no way...

Speaker: that you would not be able to hit someone and hurt them.

Speaker: It's just with the flat surface, even if you were to pull back at the last minute, you are still slapping them on the back with a bit of metal.

Speaker: And yeah, this apocalypse is, he's holding Buffy, isn't he?

Speaker: He's grabbed her.

Speaker: So he drops Let's Buffy Go and she lands on the floor heavily and Apocalypse grabs Owen by the neck and he goes to bite him.

Speaker: And it's just occurred to me what Owen grabs and smashes over Apocalypse's head because it's all dust, isn't it?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So, and Owen heads over.

Speaker: Like a hero.

Speaker: He's also wearing a velvet jacket.

Speaker: Velvet was definitely in the 90s.

Speaker: And he's like, oh, he tried to bite me.

Speaker: What a sissy.

Speaker: And we get a third knockout.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So Apocalypse Knockout grabs Owen and opens one of the drawers or the doors and smashes Owen.

Speaker: that into the back of Owen's head and he's like dead he was found wanting and that is just more than enough for Buffy she gets up she's had recovery time she's fine

Speaker: And she starts to beat the shit out of Apocalypse.

Speaker: This whole scene is just phenomenal with the fight and it's great.

Speaker: I think this is probably one of the best Buffy fight scenes.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And definitely one of the best Buffy takedowns of a baddie.

Speaker: You know, considering he's not a big bad either.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So this is obviously not on that level.

Speaker: But it's just how she loses her temper.

Speaker: She's like, you killed my date.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Willow and Xander, they arrive and they spot that Owen is actually waking up and Willow's just about to tell Buffy that Owen's okay.

Speaker: He's not dead.

Speaker: And Xander, and I do like this judgment call from Xander and he's like, just wait, Willow, just give her a sec.

Speaker: And she is going full out.

Speaker: She's punching his face.

Speaker: She's punching his chest.

Speaker: She's punching his abdomen, everything.

Speaker: She's literally kicking him, punching him.

Speaker: She's still screaming, you killed my date.

Speaker: And at this same time, Giles regains consciousness.

Speaker: Coming round at just the right time.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he's not got his glasses on, by the way.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: So fair play to him for his accuracy in this next bit.

Speaker: Well, no, he then has them on immediately afterwards.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: continuity.

Speaker: It's severely lacking in some episodes.

Speaker: Particularly when it comes to Giles' glasses.

Speaker: There's one particular episode in season three which is really

Speaker: Even people that don't obsess over Giles notice him.

Speaker: Anyway, we digress.

Speaker: Who are these people?

Speaker: And, yeah, he lunges at Buffy, he sidesteps, and he launches himself onto the metal gurney thing that's in the middle of the room.

Speaker: And it's on rollers, on wheels, and it just rolls straight into the open furnace door.

Speaker: which Giles perfectly beautifully times, he kicks the metal thing out the way and slams the door and cremates Apocalypse Now.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So...

Speaker: And unfortunately, Ewen is just coming out of it.

Speaker: So he has no idea that this is all transpired before his eyes.

Speaker: And so Buffy's like, oh, yeah, we scared him away.

Speaker: He's gone.

Speaker: And she helps him up.

Speaker: And she's like, oh, I suppose this is not what you had in mind for the first date.

Speaker: He's like, yeah, I thought we'd finish up at Ben and Jerry's.

Speaker: And Buffy's like, maybe we still could.

Speaker: He's like, nah, I don't think so.

Speaker: I'm okay.

Speaker: And you do think, oh no.

Speaker: And also a bit of like, after everything I just did to save your life and you don't want to finish our date at Ben and Jerry's.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: But he's out of it.

Speaker: He doesn't know where home is and stuff.

Speaker: Xander and Willow, they'll say, well,

Speaker: We'll get him home safely.

Speaker: And as they lead Owen away, Giles walks into shot, which again, I think is another parallel there.

Speaker: There's Buffy's normal life, potential normal life, walking away.

Speaker: And then there's Buffy's, for want of a better word, supernatural life.

Speaker: coming back into the fore in the form of Giles.

Speaker: And he tries to say anything or something.

Speaker: And she's like, don't, just don't even, I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker: And then we're at the next day and we're back at school.

Speaker: I think sometimes you forget that they're at school the next day as well.

Speaker: Yeah, like all this happening on a school night.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I struggle and I work from home.

Speaker: But yeah, so they're summarising everything that happened that night.

Speaker: And again, it's another really nice Buffy Willow moment where Buffy's like, is Owen, did he say anything on the way home?

Speaker: And Xander, of course, is there as well and doesn't help.

Speaker: And Willow's like, oh, do you mean specifically about you?

Speaker: She's like, well, generally in the area, you know, some sort of indication.

Speaker: And Xander's like, no.

Speaker: No, he didn't.

Speaker: Forget him.

Speaker: But yeah, I mean, Willow's been just such a good friend.

Speaker: She's like, well, he was really out of it.

Speaker: But to everyone's surprise, Erwin walks over to Buffy and they have a chat and Erwin

Speaker: wants to see her again which is kind of it's a it's a little like earlier in the episode where she thinks he's lost interest in her because he was dancing with Cordelia and then he's like let's go on a date so it's like that moment again where it's like oh I'm not done yet I want to see you again

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he's obviously, he just has to have time to reflect and think about things.

Speaker: And because of that, you know that he's very considered.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But he's got the wrong priorities, unfortunately.

Speaker: He starts talking about how alive he felt by nearly getting himself killed.

Speaker: And can we go and pick a fight in a bar?

Speaker: And it's that moment when Buffy kind of realizes, oh, he he wants the the excitement, the danger, the sort of unpredictability.

Speaker: And she hasn't got time for that, for a relationship that's like got to be centered around that.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: When there's already so much chaos going on.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And she makes her sacrifice, the first of many.

Speaker: And she says, I can't.

Speaker: We just have to be friends.

Speaker: I can't carry on seeing you.

Speaker: And this song in the background, I don't know what it's called.

Speaker: I think it's something like The Sun Falls Down or something.

Speaker: And it's a lovely song.

Speaker: And it just makes you sort of go, oh.

Speaker: Yeah, it just adds to the emotion of it.

Speaker: It really does.

Speaker: So Owen dejectedly walks away.

Speaker: And again, for the second time, he walks away.

Speaker: She watches the normal life or the potential for a normal life walk away.

Speaker: Right behind, coming back into shot, is Giles.

Speaker: And on this occasion, Buffy allows Giles to stick around, I think.

Speaker: She doesn't say, no, I don't want to talk about it or anything.

Speaker: He's at a loss, though, and they go and sit down on this bench.

Speaker: And I think this...

Speaker: This is your favourite scene, yeah?

Speaker: It is, yeah, because it says so much.

Speaker: Giles starts telling her this story about when he was 10 years old and his father told him that he was destined to be a watcher.

Speaker: And we find out that he would much rather have been a fighter pilot or, as he says, possibly a grocer.

Speaker: Grosser?

Speaker: Bless him.

Speaker: Do you know why that is?

Speaker: Why is that?

Speaker: Do you know possibly a grosser?

Speaker: Do you know why you said that?

Speaker: I don't.

Speaker: For those of you that don't know, the series continued into comic book form.

Speaker: Ah, right, yeah.

Speaker: And there was a lot of spin-off series and one-off series planned.

Speaker: One of them was a Giles-centric

Speaker: series which is a complete crime to humanity that it was never made yes we could have a whole episode just on the injustice of that yeah um and what is worse is that there was a script it was meant to be a three-parter it was going to be in joint with the bbc it would have been made in the uk and

Speaker: would have starred Antonie Stuart Head as Giles, and there was other cast members also cast as well.

Speaker: I won't give too much away, because if you read the comics, there's a lot of that series that was written because it didn't happen.

Speaker: they started to put elements of that series into the comic books.

Speaker: And there was a lot of backstory, which would have obviously been explained in the same manner as we're getting here.

Speaker: And it turns out Giles' grandfather was a greengrocer, which is why he wanted to be one when he was a little boy.

Speaker: There you go.

Speaker: So, yeah.

Speaker: But that's all, I mean, obviously, when they were writing this, they had no concept.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: They probably just thought that would be funny.

Speaker: Yeah, it was just random.

Speaker: So it's just nice how, you know, they just tie everything up.

Speaker: So, but yeah, there is a reason why.

Speaker: But yeah, sorry, I completely digress.

Speaker: Yeah, I just I love this scene because it's just that's the moment where you think, oh, he gets it.

Speaker: He understands about sacrifice and things.

Speaker: And despite his objections to, you know, oh, she's going on a date.

Speaker: You know, why is she doing this?

Speaker: Ultimately,

Speaker: He feels sorry for her that this is that things have turned out this way.

Speaker: And he shows that when he says about Owen that he seems like a nice lad.

Speaker: And it's just so he understands how I suppose this is way down the line, but we get a sense of how lonely it is to be the Slayer.

Speaker: And I suppose Giles understands that loneliness and experiences it himself in other ways in later seasons when he's feeling lonely.

Speaker: you know a bit at a loss for what to do and things like that um of course we don't know any of this now but I just yeah I just think it's a really good scene at it's sort of another turning point in their relationship their dynamic um and it's just an there's a nice little tender moment between them when he tells her that he thinks she's doing pretty well as a slayer yes which I love yeah

Speaker: You can tell he's sort of, he's like, oh, should I tell her this?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And he's quite bashful about it.

Speaker: And then they both have these, like,

Speaker: 100 kilowatt smiles to each other, which is really lovely.

Speaker: It's a sign that, you know, he actually, like, you know, he's exasperated with her at times, but he really is starting to care about her as a person.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And that's, I think that's reciprocated.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: You know, Buffy is incredibly exasperated by him.

Speaker: as well she finds him just as annoying as he finds her but they you know work beyond that they begin to care and and buffy actually mentions in that scene where she's like you know owen could get himself killed or i'd get him killed or someone else yeah and she's looking at giles going you could have died

Speaker: if I hadn't turned up.

Speaker: And he's telling her, look, this is all on me.

Speaker: I chose, I went to the funeral home of my own free will, et cetera.

Speaker: But Buffy is no, it's, it's my responsibility.

Speaker: I should have been there.

Speaker: This was my, this is my gig, not yours.

Speaker: And I think that's a really, as you said, a turning point for Buffy as well.

Speaker: Yeah, because we had one in the third episode where she was like, you saved my life.

Speaker: And she's just in awe of him.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And this is another one of those moments where it's like, he's pretty cool.

Speaker: Oh, it's a, yeah, it's, it is, it's a lovely scene.

Speaker: And I think if you hadn't picked this one, I'd have said this one.

Speaker: It's mine.

Speaker: All mine.

Speaker: It's your scene.

Speaker: Okay, fine.

Speaker: But I have the rest of the episode.

Speaker: But we're not done.

Speaker: With the lovely smile, smiley faces that they're beaming at each other because we head back to the master's lair, which I love.

Speaker: After Giles says, well, you know, at least that, you know, she said, well, I got rid of the anointed.

Speaker: Yep, you did.

Speaker: And at least the master will be having a fairly bad day because of that.

Speaker: But of course, he jigs it by saying that.

Speaker: It ain't true.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Because the master is...

Speaker: He's going through the whole words again and the slayer will not know him, she will not stop him and he will lead her into hell.

Speaker: And he kneels down to welcome his anointed friend who is the little boy from the bus.

Speaker: Not Mr. Apocalypse Now.

Speaker: Not Mr. Apocalypse Now.

Speaker: And I love the little boy's name is Colin, I think.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I love this episode.

Speaker: It is definitely one of, I think, one of my favourites.

Speaker: Yeah, it's brilliant.

Speaker: There's just so much packed in.

Speaker: So much.

Speaker: There is.

Speaker: Definitely.

Speaker: There's actually not a huge amount of Buffy kills.

Speaker: So she kills one vamp at the beginning.

Speaker: And then the apocalypse now.

Speaker: She kills him.

Speaker: I swear, one of these times you're going to wake up in a coma.

Speaker: Wake up in a... Oh, never mind.

Speaker: She gets knocked out.

Speaker: Giles gets knocked out.

Speaker: Owen gets knocked out.

Speaker: There's a lot of knockouts.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Who is your favourite character?

Speaker: I struggled to choose, so I'm going to have to declare it a tie and say Giles and Buffy.

Speaker: Because for me, as far as this whole episode is concerned, they complement each other so well.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And to me, it would just feel unfair if I picked one over the other, because I think they have an equal part to play in the whole episode.

Speaker: I'm really glad you said that because I was going to say the same.

Speaker: Yeah, I think, as you said, they really, they parallel each other.

Speaker: And in this particular episode, they're two sides of the same coin.

Speaker: And the episode's

Speaker: Dances Between Them Both.

Speaker: And it's, yeah, it's so good.

Speaker: But yeah, I mean, the more you watch it with parallels in mind, the more you see.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And there's some very deliberate parallels, like with him, Giles, saying the same thing as Owen.

Speaker: I mean, that's obviously meant to draw you in.

Speaker: It's meant to make you go, oh, hang on a minute.

Speaker: He just said that.

Speaker: But, I mean, ultimately, you know, Buffy at the end, she makes that sacrifice.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And she realises that she has to embrace her destiny as a slayer a little more.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Heavy stuff.

Speaker: It's heavy.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Heavy, heavy, heavy.

Speaker: And I think that's the other thing, though, is that the whole series...

Speaker: does this so, so well.

Speaker: It picks up those parallels of a young girl making these decisions.

Speaker: Yes, okay, there's a parallel in it already in the story where the supernatural represents other forms of normal life.

Speaker: But to see Buffy battling those decisions...

Speaker: you know, do I go on this date or do I go and do the responsible thing that I should be doing?

Speaker: I think the other thing is it's okay to make a mistake.

Speaker: And, you know, she does make mistakes and she's not,

Speaker: perfect yeah that's why she's so relatable because you know you can look up to her as like this super strong like you know girls everywhere going that's what I want to be but she's also human and you can see yourself in her in lots of different ways yeah definitely

Speaker: So the next episode that we'll be re-watching previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer is The Pack.

Speaker: This is episode six.

Speaker: And this actually marks halfway through season one.

Speaker: So I can't believe we're quite here already, Sarah, bearing in mind that we started this a few weeks ago.

Speaker: We've had a few trials and tribulations with recording.

Speaker: We have.

Speaker: I can't believe we're here.

Speaker: Yeah, it's such a short season compared to the others as well.

Speaker: So, yeah, before you know it, we'll be on season two.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That's scary.

Speaker: What do you think of the pack?

Speaker: Yeah, it's good.

Speaker: I like it.

Speaker: There's more sort of drama with Xander to look forward to.

Speaker: I think this one is great because it brings, again, the dynamic of the show together.

Speaker: where they were doing a big bad a week, and a different foe for the Scoobies to go up against and hopefully win.

Speaker: Yeah, so I look forward to seeing a bit more of one of the best characters of season one, Principal Flutie, which is always good.

Speaker: I love this guy.

Speaker: I love him.

Speaker: I love Principal Flutie.

Speaker: Yeah, personally, this is not one of my favourite episodes.

Speaker: I don't mind it.

Speaker: I think it's very well acted, but I've never enjoyed watching it as much as other episodes.

Speaker: I kind of, I remember when I used to watch this on VHS, I used to forward a lot of the actual scenes.

Speaker: But yeah, I mean, it's a great episode.

Speaker: And I hope on the rewatch that I'll have it, I will be looking at it with different eyes anyway.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I mean, it is hard to follow an episode like the one we've just discussed.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I think that's probably where it falls down a little short.

Speaker: So,

Speaker: But yeah, no, I'm really looking forward to it.

Speaker: And thank you again for listening.

Speaker: And please do keep sharing your favourite scenes, your favourite lines, which outfit you liked.

Speaker: What was your favourite character from Never Kill a Boy on the first date?

Speaker: Or, you know, if you can't choose one character, perhaps you've got two.

Speaker: Like us.

Speaker: That's absolutely fine.

Speaker: You can have as many favourite characters as you like.

Speaker: Before we do go as well, we just wanted to have a quick shout out to an amazing, well, there's a lot of amazing artists that are in love with the show as much as we are.

Speaker: And we've had the privilege of working with one particular artist.

Speaker: called Ghost Rabbit and she's very kindly worked on some unique watercolours for our podcast.

Speaker: Now we've been sharing those as and when over the last few weeks.

Speaker: And we feel really guilty because we just keep saying to her, can you do this one?

Speaker: Can you do this?

Speaker: Can you do that?

Speaker: But please do check out the work that she's done for us, but also all of her other watercolour artwork.

Speaker: It really is amazing.

Speaker: And...

Speaker: The speed and the pace and the talent that she has of actually working watercolor, because it's a really difficult medium to work with.

Speaker: But she's a master at it.

Speaker: So do go and check out her work.

Speaker: So she's on X and also Instagram as Ghost Rabbit.

Speaker: Or if you want to head to our profiles, we've tagged her in our posts as well.

Speaker: Yeah, she's very, very talented and I know would really appreciate the follows and comments on how amazing her artwork is because she really, really deserves it.

Speaker: She definitely does.

Speaker: And what we hope to do as well is highlight other artists, writers, videographers, anyone who's done something that's been inspired by the show.

Speaker: We'd love to highlight and highlight.

Speaker: maybe give you a shout out or even just discuss it.

Speaker: We mentioned a video last episode.

Speaker: We'd like to try to do this every episode if we can.

Speaker: So if you have anything that you'd like us to share or if you want us to highlight, please do send it across.

Speaker: And you can contact us on our social media platforms, which is on X, Instagram and also TikTok.

Speaker: And of course, if you would love to actually come on the podcast and chat to us about it or just about Buffy in general, we would love that too.

Speaker: Don't be shy.

Speaker: Yeah, we definitely want to hear more from everyone.

Speaker: So please do.

Speaker: So yeah, so if you're feeling brave and if you'd like to join us, that would be amazing.

Speaker: So we've got some really good episodes coming up, particularly for season two.

Speaker: So if you do have a particular one that you'd like to guest star in, please just do get into it.

Speaker: So that is all from us for now until next time when we discuss episode six of season one.

Speaker: So as always, thank you so much for watching along with us and listening along as we dissect every minute detail of every episode as, you know, as the show deserves.

Speaker: It does.

Speaker: Thanks again, guys.

Speaker: See you next time.

Speaker: Next time on previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Speaker: And he spends all of his spare time lounging around with imbeciles.

Speaker: Just like, it's bad, isn't it?

Speaker: It's devastating.

Speaker: He's turned into a 16-year-old boy.

Speaker: He goes in and he's like, doctor?

Speaker: And then he goes, zookeeper?

Speaker: He doesn't quite know what to call him.

Speaker: It's almost like he forgot.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So, you know, Anthony Hayes is like, fuck, I can't remember the bloke's name.

Speaker: And he's like, I don't even have IMDB to check.

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