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Speaker: getting married or settled down in your 30s is not unheard of. We have friends that are from the north and that's the same way. Yeah. And they see us and they're like, these are child brides down here in Texas.
Speaker: Hi, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Unprofessional Opinion. I'm Heather, and I'm joined by my friend, Kara, and guest for today, who came all the way from London. Yes. I'm so excited to be here. Oh, I'm so pumped. Really, this is just our second take, because we were trying to figure out the first one. Yeah. We're just naturally awkward people sometimes. A little bit awkward, but it's fine. This is normal. Everyone has. Never done a podcast before. I know. But we were talking about how
Speaker: This may be a different Cara. I know. A different podcast Cara, a different persona. Yeah. I'm going to take on my UK persona, which is Cara instead of Cara. Are you serious? Yes. They cannot say my name right in the UK. It's the weirdest thing. I'm like, it's not Cara. Cara. Yeah. I look at it and I don't think that. Well, you know, it is what it is. What's Cara like? Rogue. Ooh. Yeah. That sounds kind of fun. Yeah.
Speaker: I don't know what to expect from Kara today. I know. This is Kara. A little bit of both. You've been there a year, so you've had a chance to develop. Anyway, I really am truly so happy you're here. I'm honored that you want to be on the show too. You just have a lot of cool and you've had a lot of cool experiences, just one living
Speaker: in London, but just through life in general. And I'm just so happy that you're here and you could share all this wisdom that you're ready to drop for us, honest. I know. I know. I'll be well. I'm excited. I'm excited to chat with you and catch up and everything. I know.
Speaker: Hopefully you share some tips that I've learned through this last year and the last 30 years, I guess. Okay, well, before we dive into that, I know that you are leaving for London today. You're all packed up, ready to go. Packed up, ready to go. Was this just like a jam packed week with, I mean, it was in and out. Yeah, it was insane. I feel like every trip back to Dallas is always insane because it's usually I'm coming back for work. Work's busy all week and you're wanting to see your family, you're wanting to see your friends and so it's just,
Speaker: a lot, but it's always so fulfilling. It's like a little tour of people that you have to see in your back. Yes, and it's always so sad going back, even though when I know I go back, I'm going to be like, oh, I love it here. But the day of going back is always a little sentimental for sure. Yeah, I know. Are you happy to get back when you do go, or is it a little sad?
Speaker: I mean, it's always bittersweet. It's like when I leave London to come back here, I'm sad to leave London. And I'm like, dang, I don't want to leave because I know it's only temporary and I want to spend every moment I can over there. But then when I'm back here, I'm like, oh.
Speaker: all my people and I love seeing everyone and I love where I work and everything. So it's just, I know when you do come into town. Yeah. When you do come into town, like you came in in the fall last year and I was so sad I missed you, but I'm so thankful that you get to come here for work four times a year, which is such a blessing. It's amazing for me. Selfishly I love it. Thank you to your employer. But also, I mean, you get to see your family that comes from Oklahoma.
Speaker: to Dallas and gets to see everyone, but yeah. Yeah. It's great. But anyway, well, good. Okay. Well today we're diving into a little mini series, which I'm so excited that I have you to kind of talk about at least the first episode of this mini series. So we'll be talking about 30 things I learned before 30 because you and I are turning the big three. Oh, I know this year.
Speaker: It's crazy. Oh my gosh. I identify as 32. Really? I do. I feel like I'm 32. Isn't that weird? The only reason I think that is because I feel like I've lived some life. I had a heart a couple of years ago and I feel like that really aged me and it made me grow up. Yeah. And that's just what happens with certain situations in your life. For sure.
Speaker: Like when I turned 29 last year, I felt like it was anti -climatic. I didn't feel like I was gonna miss my 30s because I felt 30. So that is, I don't know. It's a weird thing, but I just feel older than I am.
Speaker: Well, I'll say you don't look 32. Thank you. Someone did call me 24 at the bar. I can't believe that. I think her name was Judy. I can't remember. I'll never forget you, Judy. I was out in Fort Worth. It wasn't Judy. It was something like that, but it was one of those old drunk women at a bar. Older, elder, wiser, not older. We're out in Fort Worth.
Speaker: But anyway, I'm blanking on her name, but we'll call her Judy for now. And we're out in Fort Worth and I'm with my boyfriend and she had just turned, her friend had just turned 51, something like that. And then I was like, guess our age.
Speaker: And she was like, hmm, looks at us. And she's just drunk eyes, you know? She's like, 24, 32. And you know, my boyfriend's younger than me. And he got older, and I got younger, and I thought that was so great. I'll definitely externally identify as 24, 25, sure. Honestly, what a confidence boost. Oh my gosh. I do need to do my eye rollers a bit more often. I stopped doing that.
Speaker: but I'll take it. I'll take it. Thank you. Um, but yeah, do you feel older than you are? Do you feel like 30 is, you feel like it's coming at a good time? So 30 is interesting because a lot of people that know me know that I have this like crazy fear about aging. And like I grew up having this mindset that as you get older, life gets harder and maybe isn't as enjoyable.
Speaker: I don't know why it's such a depressing mindset to have, but 30 used to scare the heck out of me. And I was like, Oh God, like it sounds so much older. But now that I'm here, I'm like, honestly, I think it's gonna be some of the best years of my life. Yeah, I'm like embracing it. And I feel really excited about it. And I feel excited about my future. And I don't feel 30. See, I feel normal.
Speaker: I'm a baby child still. I feel like I'm like... Baby child, man child. ...27. Not a man child. Or not man child, I'm sorry. A woman child. A woman child. A woman child. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I'm like 27, 28. Yeah. It's weird when I'm like, oh, I'm turning 30 this year. Yeah. I feel like 30 -year -olds. I know. Well, I feel like in every decade that you're about to go in, they're like, that's the best years yet. Yes. It's the best years. But I do hear that 30 is the best. I hear. You're established. That's so good. Yeah.
Speaker: I can see that now. It's like, yeah, I think 30 is going to be pretty good. Now, I don't know about 40. I might spiral at 40. Honestly, 40 may be your best year yet. My sister, when she turned 40, she was like, that was when I just did not give
Speaker: anything anymore. Zero all that. So I don't know. I think 40, my theory is 40 is when you just don't care what anybody says at all. I mean, you're still a good person, right? But that's my theory. You probably don't care as much on other people's opinions. Oh yeah. Yeah. But I feel like definitely. That's even happening now. When you're 30. Oh yeah. Yeah. You still care. Yeah. But it's definitely different than when you're
Speaker: 22, 23 years old. Oh my gosh. You're analyzing everything that you did or said or didn't do or didn't say. I know. I know. I know. I think it's going to be a good decade. Yeah. I feel good for us. I feel like good things are going to be happening this decade. I agree. Yes. You go into it strong. Yes. Can you imagine? I mean, 10 years is a long time. Yeah. A lot can happen. It's just crazy. I know. Think about how much has happened in - Our 20s. Yeah.
Speaker: We moved here when we were 22. I was a degenerate when I was young 20s. Yes. Absolutely insane. That's just the persona of a young 20 -year -old moving to a big city, a city to Dallas. We had fun. Yes. Had the best time. It's so much fun. That's when we became friends too in our young 20s. It was. It is crazy to think of. We moved here what? When we were 22 years old. Oh my God. Right out of college. That sounds like an infant child, 22 years old. I mean, we were.
Speaker: And they allowed us to have a job. I had a credit card. I had a job. I was not responsible enough for any of those things. No, not even a little bit. Wow. But look at us now. Look at us now. Yeah. Sitting in my living room recording a podcast. We've made it. No, we really haven't. We're just, we're just, we're just trying to take one step forward every day. Oh my gosh. So funny. Um, okay. Well you have a cool 30th birthday trip coming up.
Speaker: I do. Yeah. Remind me what you're doing. You're going somewhere in Amalfi Coast. Amalfi Coast. My husband planned a trip to the Amalfi Coast. Going to Italy has been my dream forever. And we got to go to Italy for the first time this year after we moved to London last year. And Amalfi Coast has been like top of my bucket list. Yeah. I don't know why. I don't know where it came about. But ever since I was a kid, I'm sure I just saw a photo and was like,
Speaker: That looks like it happened on earth. Yes. Wow. And I've never been. And so that's what we're doing. I'm surprised you haven't been actually. Yeah. In Italy though. Yeah. I went to Sardinia last year, but I never went over to Europe until I moved to London. Yeah. So that was my first time experiencing Europe was this past year. Yeah. Are y 'all in a house or a condo or anything when you're in the Amalfi coast? Yeah. So we're going to be in a hotel. Hotel. Yeah. Yes. A hotel while we're in Postiano and then
Speaker: Is that even how you say it? I've never heard of that. Is that a country? Positano. Positano. Positano. Yes. See, I don't even know where I'm going. And then we're going to Capri and we're going to stay in the Airbnb in Capri. Okay, so that's where Grace and I went to Capri. Oh, amazing. Went to Capri and Sorrento. Yeah, the funniest story at Capri. I remember we took a ferry to get out there from Sorrento, I think. Yeah, that's right. And there's only a couple ferries a day.
Speaker: and we are about to miss this ferry. We had ended up on the other side of Capri, because it's kind of small, and it's that mountain. And we had gone to the other side at the bottom of the mountain, and we thought we were on the right side, but we were truly on the identical wrong side. And let's say the boat was leaving at five. It was like 4 .45 when we realized we were not there, and we were on the other side. We thought we were going the right way, but we were going the wrong way. Did you miss it?
Speaker: We dead ass sprint through cobblestones upstairs. I mean, it was a full on sprint. And I remember we were, it was me and Grace and one of our other friends that was from Australia that was on the trip with us. And she was wearing flip flops. Someone had like shoes that would likely come off. Well, they sure did. She took them off. She was running barefoot and we are three sprinting as fast as we can thinking we're going in the right direction because it's just the opposite.
Speaker: way we were. We made it just in time. I cannot believe that. We probably were like a minute or two after but they saw us scuffing like where the fairy is. You can see there's stairs coming down. There's a long walkway so you can see us from the top running down so it's easy. I can just picture you guys yelling and like waving your hands. Don't leave us because what do you do if we're stuck there? There's not going to be another fairy that comes and we're just huffing and puffing.
Speaker: Oh man. I can't imagine. That's what I think of Capri. Because I heard like the stairs and everything all around there are just so intense too. They are. And they're the cobblestone. Yeah. It's hard to walk on it and. Much less run on it. Oh my gosh. I'm so happy no one twisted an ankle. But anyway, that's why I think of Capri. It was really funny. We were there for maybe three or four hours max and just dilly -dallyed our way onto the wrong side of the city. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: I'm really excited for you. You'll be just fine. You'll be staying in Capri, so you'll be fine. We'll be there for a few nights, so it'll be good. Oh my gosh. I'm really excited though. That's awesome. Well, let's get into today. Again, this is going to be a mini series on 30 things I learned before 30. I'm going to have five friends on just to talk through
Speaker: six things that we really learned when we learned in our 20s before we were in our 30s. So kind of just things that we're going to take into our mindset in our 30s. And so I know I wrote down three things and so did you. Do you want to go first or me? Or we could go like one and one. Let's do one on one. Okay. You want to go first or me? I can go first. Okay. Okay. I was going to pull my, you know, really detailed
Speaker: notes up. We love preparations. I know. I know. I think first, I know we talked a little bit about this before we started the podcast and everything, but I think one of the biggest things for me is life is short. Just enjoy it. I think as we're getting older, there's been things that have happened in our lives and our friends' lives where it's proven life is short. I think it's so important just to maximize every day and try to
Speaker: live every day with purpose. I've actually started journaling a lot more this year. That's awesome. Something that I've added to my journal each day is, what is something that happened the day before that felt like it could have been a scene in a movie?
Speaker: And I really liked that mindset and thinking of yeah, there's a lot of things that happen in your life that stick out in our special whether it's like going on a walk with your husband or whatever it might be or going dinner with a friend and just catching up. I don't know. But I think it's so important to really take yourself out of your comfort zone.
Speaker: I feel like as you get older, it's so easy once you start settling down and getting your routine to get really comfortable. But I feel like sometimes when you get too comfortable, you stop living in certain ways and stop putting yourself out there. And I still think it's important to prioritize that. So that's something that I've learned and I think London really
Speaker: took me out of my comfort zone and made me really wake up to that a little bit more. Sometimes you have to have a physical change to have just this change that you're looking for. For sure. And perspective shift. Yeah. And I loved living in Dallas and I loved all my people and my friends and what I was doing and was devastated when I was moving, but it also made me realize, okay, when I come back, I'm not just going to spend weekends at home not doing anything. Yeah.
Speaker: maybe just seeing one friend on the weekend and then hanging out. Like I want to be out and living and like with a community. Yeah, especially this season of life where you don't have kids yet. For sure. I mean, it'll be much harder when you do. Yeah. So live it up now. Truly. That's awesome. That's so good. Okay, I guess I'll share my next. So I had, so one of the first things I thought about was
Speaker: being content with being by yourself and just enjoying your own company. I think at least for me, a big push for this mindset shift or just the reason why this was so top of mind for me was because I lived alone. Because I am one of those extroverts and maybe you all aren't an extrovert, but I was so scared to live alone. I was terrified of being by myself in silence. I just felt like I would be able to hear the silence.
Speaker: I think getting Cooper, my dog, really helped because he's just naturally loud and just makes noise. It just gives you less distraction. I loved all the roommates that I've had and it's been such a blessing.
Speaker: But there is something special that you can learn about yourself when you are just by yourself. You truly can enjoy your own company. And I'm not talking about just binging a series on your couch by yourself. I'm talking
Speaker: you know, it's after work. It's been a hard day and you want to cook a nice dinner. You want to have this pasta dish just for one and just enjoying your company and eating your pasta. I don't know. That's what I think about. I just really would. If I had a free Friday night, I remember I, when I first started living alone, I would love that. I would be so excited to not have any plans on a Friday night because I would make this elaborate dish that had all of these ingredients and instructions and
Speaker: Knowing me I follow them to a tea. Yeah, it won't taste anything like it what it's supposed to do nor will it look like it I don't know but I don't know what I do. Yeah, I don't know what I do wrong, but it's the thottens effort Yeah, the activity of it that is what I just enjoyed so much. So just enjoying time with yourself. Yeah, I totally get that I know When I first moved to Dallas, I was actually in a long -term relationship I was with someone for seven years and then moved to Dallas moved in with that person and
Speaker: and then it didn't work out and lived alone for the first time and was alone. And it's like being alone for the first time after you are in college and you lived in a sorority with all these girls or lived in a house with a lot of friends and then moving to a new city and then being by yourself. I was terrified and I was terrified over like the littlest things like going to the gym by myself or going to the grocery store and like just not having
Speaker: constant people to lean on. And I do feel like that was the biggest growth experience. And I'm really glad I got to experience that early because I truly don't feel like you can be happy with other people until you're really happy with yourself and you have that confidence. So I'm glad you got to experience that because
Speaker: I loved living by myself. I do. I love it. I know I do love it. Yeah. Yeah. You like hit a point where it's like, once you get comfortable with it, you're like obsessed with it. Yeah. Like, Oh, it's going to be hard to live. I know exactly. Yeah. I know. Sometimes I think about like living in a space with my husband one day and it really freaks me out because I'm like that kid that didn't like to share.
Speaker: Yeah. And so I'm nervous to share. I don't know. Like I just get the habit of this is how the dishes go in the dishwasher. Yeah. This is this is the sponge. I was telling my boyfriend the other day there's two sponges in the sink. One is for, you know, we're going to clean it off and it's already really dirty. It's probably got chicken on it, you know, and we're going to wipe it off and put it in the dishwasher. And the other ones for where it's clean, we're going to like hand wash it and clean it like something like a pot and pan or something like that.
Speaker: because I don't want them to like over, I don't know. It's a weird thing and it's in my head and that's what I'm like, I have to explain that to somebody and hope that they follow my process. Honestly. I don't know if you get that. I do get that for sure. I feel like when it's the right person, it's easier, but it's never just like,
Speaker: Oh, fits perfectly. There's never going to be a little annoyances or anything like that. But you'll just naturally learn to live with someone else. Yes. When it is the right person, it feels right. Definitely. 100%. It just feels different. Yeah. But yeah, it's like a little bit of give and take. Yeah. Like there's going to be things that that person does that annoys you and things that you do that annoys that person. And then you just kind of like grow together and figure it out. But yeah. Yeah. It's a little bit of give and take.
Speaker: I'm gonna have to give a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. They might not put the dishes in the dishwasher exactly how you want it. I might be like tweaking. As long as they do it, you know. I know. I may go back and fix it. There's little wins. Yeah. Little wins. Yeah. That's right. Okay. What's your next 30 before 30?
Speaker: My next 30 before 30 is community. So I've always had a good group of friends and I've always had a very close -knit of friends. I grew up in an extremely small town and those people that I grew up with are like family. You know, my best friend is
Speaker: who we've been friends since sixth grade and she's like an actual sister to me and then going to college I had a lot of those people that I went to high school with that went to college and then I was in a sorority so I had like a big group and then moving to Dallas same too but I feel like once I was living in Dallas you know I had like my group of friends that were strong and I loved so much I kept up with all my high school and college friends as well
Speaker: But I feel like I was starting to get comfortable with my husband, Dean, and I just hanging out a lot, which I adore him and love hanging out with him. He's my favorite person to hang out with. But I think it sometimes makes you forget the importance of having dinner parties with other people and really making an effort to get the group together and just how special those moments are. And that's been something that I found to be very important in my 30s is
Speaker: having groups of people through all walks of life there to help support you and you support them and people to lean on. I feel like it just makes life so much more enjoyable when you have, I mean, I have my people here in Dallas, I have my people back home, I have my people back in Oklahoma and then also in London. And I feel like
Speaker: life would get really lonely if you didn't make the effort to build communities. If you just had community, maybe just in Oklahoma and didn't try to build it in the other two places. Yeah, for sure. So that's been something that I have found to be very important. And I know we both.
Speaker: you know, went to the same church and everything. And that's always talked about with like our faith and everything, the importance of having community. And we're not just here to be by ourselves. I do see the importance of being confident in yourself and being happy with yourself. Absolutely. 100 percent. But I think once you are, you can really add a lot of value to other people. And I feel like that's our overall purpose is to be a light in other people's lives and people that can light us up and make us better. We should surround ourselves with those people. I love that. And I feel like some people
Speaker: just as a little side tangent I was thinking about, feel like what they have to give to a community or to a friendship is not, they're not worthy or maybe they don't have anything to give and everybody has something special to give. So that was all I wanted to say. I love that though, that's great. Okay, my next one was knowing that the dynamics of friendships may change. So what I mean by that, and I know I told you a little bit about this, is when you move,
Speaker: My friend moves to London. That dynamic is going to change a little bit. When your friends have kids, that's going to change. Even when they get married, sometimes that can change. But it's not a bad thing. It was more so for me, the realization that it's not always going to be how it currently is.
Speaker: first met years ago in Dallas. We had such a girl gang. I mean, it was so much fun. We had always had something going on on the weekends and all this stuff. And you almost, you get to a point where you think, yeah, a comfortability as well, where you just think that things are always going to be this way. And
Speaker: if they were, that's not how life is supposed to be. It's not always supposed to be the stagnant, this, I don't know. And so it's, it's good for things to change, but knowing that their dynamics may change is just, I feel like good to know. Um, and it's, again, it's not a bad thing. It's just knowing that, you know, the good old days or whatever, there's other good old days ahead of you too. So just because you can cherish
Speaker: You know, our early years in Dallas together doesn't mean that we're not going to have great memories in our thirties or when we get older too. This might be maybe not a hot take, but something that like I think I've had to.
Speaker: explain to people I'm close with that with that too it's sometimes okay to grow apart from people and I feel like sometimes that's really hard I feel like especially growing up in like a small town it's like you become so close and you like love these people so much but sometimes relationships are not good for you anymore
Speaker: And that's okay. And I think it's always like having that expectation that it's okay to let go of some friendships. It doesn't have to end in like a fight or that it's some falling out or anything like that.
Speaker: I don't know, I do think it's so important to surround yourself with people that are only gonna bring out the best of you. And as your stages of life change, so are your friends. Their lives are changing and sometimes it doesn't always make sense to stay close to those people. I feel like sometimes it's hard to let go of that, at least for me, because I try to hold onto my friendships as tight as I can. But it doesn't always make sense and it doesn't mean that you don't need to be friendly with that person.
Speaker: but maybe you don't need to exert so much effort if you're not getting the same. I don't know. That's been something that's been interesting as I get older. I agree with that. To evaluate a little bit. Yeah. You just get to a point where you realize you get to choose your friendships. Yeah. Regardless of how long you've been friends. Yeah. For sure. Okay. What's your last three? My last of the three is
Speaker: being happy where you're at or at least having the mindset of you're there for a reason and just keeping that in mind. I think as we're getting older, sometimes our jobs are getting harder or life is getting harder. Sometimes you're like, what the heck am I doing? Why am I in this situation? I'm stressed, I'm tired. Why am I working so hard? Why am I working so hard?
Speaker: But I think at the end of the day, it's for a bigger purpose and I think sometimes it's taking a step back and realizing that you're exactly where God wants you to be in that moment. For whatever reason that might be, it might not just be for your own self -development, it might be to be an impact in someone else's life. And I think when you look at life that way, it doesn't feel so heavy when you're in a stressful situation or maybe you're not
Speaker: going into the best work environment every single day or whatever it might be. I feel like it just brings light into it and shows the greater purpose of it and just makes life overall better. If you make that mindset of, I'm here for a purpose, what impact am I going to make that day? I'm looking at every day like that. I definitely agree. Just not finding your
Speaker: Identity yeah in anything outside of yourself. Yeah, you know for sure Because I don't know if you'd ever find true fulfillment if you just focused on your career or just like one relationship or One hobby. It's like it's I don't know. It's all encompassing Yeah, your true self is what's gonna make the biggest impact. Yeah, I love that Yeah, and then my last one was
Speaker: At least for me, the majority of my twenties, I was single. Yeah. And so I had expected and I think expected is the good word for this to describe it. And I'll go into it that when I was in college, that I would meet my husband. Yeah. And then we would get married a couple of years after school.
Speaker: And then we would have kids before 30 and then boom, I'm a mom and I should be a mom now. I didn't expect it to be a mom now in that wild. I'm not, maybe I could be, I could definitely be mom one day, but the, the, what I've showed, what I've showed in my twenties is not mom material.
Speaker: at least recently. It's so funny how you think that, because I thought that too. I was like, oh yeah, I'll have kids by the time I'm 26. And then you turn 26 and you're like, I can't even take care of myself. 26 feels really young. I mean, people have kids at 26, but it's a different material. Yeah, it's just different. Yeah, it's for them and yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, no, at 26 I was still out of control, trying to figure out my life. Kara hasn't really come out for this episode. I know, I know, maybe later. I don't know. She's not really unhinged. No, I'm back to Dallas Kara. I don't know Kara, I only know Dallas Kara and I love Dallas Kara.
Speaker: Um, but yeah, I, so you were unhinged or just craziness at 26. Yeah. So didn't you feel like that too? No, absolutely. But I, yeah. And it's so funny because when I was, I, okay. So I think what it was for me, maybe watching movies and all this stuff was part of the reason why I had this expectation. But I think also it's because seeing my sister, she dated this guy, now my brother -in -law.
Speaker: four years, they met in school, they left school, they got married, had a kid before 30. How I just explained how I expected it, that is her life. And I just thought that was the norm. And I thought that that was what I could easily get. Yeah, like, I mean, anybody is worthy could get that. But that's just not what God had in the cards for me. Yeah. And he wanted to me wait a little bit longer until maybe I found my person and wanted me to learn things about myself. So I just didn't expect to be here now. Yeah.
Speaker: And that's not a bad thing. It's it could be taken bad, but I'm not looking at it that way because the opportunities that I've had to learn about myself to live alone to like, in your case, you've moved to another country and all of those. I don't know. It's if you expect if you just have this plan for your life. And again, I think planning is great. And I think you need to set goals and aspirations for yourself. But it's not like if you don't hit this, the world's going to explode or everything's going to fall apart.
Speaker: We're not sometimes in control of things and that's normal and so you kind of just have to find the positive and just the, I don't know, just like the learning opportunities that it's given you. For sure. I think you can try to plan your life as much as you want, but it's most likely not going to work out exactly how you envision it to. Most likely. It really won't. I feel like to us thinking the mindset of like, okay, we're going to go to college, we're going to find our husbands, we're going to get
Speaker: married, have kids young, live in this big old house. I think it's because we grew up in the South a little bit.
Speaker: people just get married sooner, and that's just the norm in this area. But if you think about it in the grand scheme of things, and if you think of the Northeast and things like that, getting married or settled down in your 30s is not unheard of. Oh, we have friends that are from the North, and that's the same way. Yeah. And they see us, and they're like, these are child brides down here in Texas.
Speaker: I know exactly what you mean. What is the rush? I think it's just sometimes taking yourself out of your environment and thinking more big picture of like, my friends might be doing this, but it's okay if I'm not. It's going to happen when it's meant to happen. I think if we both think of our lives and what the last heck eight years have been, it's completely different than what we expect it to be.
Speaker: Sometimes, in the best ways. Yeah. Where did you think you would be at this time? Almost turning 30. I don't know. Okay. If you asked me when I was in college. Yeah, college. I would have probably said married kids, house someplace, chill. Would you be back in Oklahoma? No. Okay.
Speaker: No, I never thought I would go back to Oklahoma. I love Oklahoma. I love my people from Oklahoma, but I just never, I know when I was in high school and I know when I was in college, I was ready for that part of my life to be done. But I figured, you know, for sure Dallas, I never saw myself being married to some South African man living in London.
Speaker: Shout out to Dean. Shout out to Dean. Our South African. Yeah. So it's just crazy how it works out. I know. It is so funny. You just met him at a bar in Dallas. Yeah. So romantic. And now you live in London with him and are traveling to South Africa to see his family next week. Yes. Yes. We'll be back in South Africa. What? Yeah. Did you plan that for your life? No. No. But it's pretty dang good. But isn't that awesome? Yes. I just think that's so cool. It's just kind of you just have to throw the rule book to the wind or throw your own agenda to the wind a little bit. Again, have goals. But yeah, I feel like
Speaker: we're going to receive so much more than we expect. So why are we expecting less? 100%. Nail on the head. I don't know how to end it now. I think that's how you end it. I think that's it. I don't know if we can go up from there. Wow. Okay. Well, that was so great. I'm super excited to hear everyone else's 30 before 30 and just hear everyone's wisdom because everyone's going to have something different based off their experiences.
Speaker: I'm so happy that you were able to join and share. Yes, I'm happy to be here. Yeah, thanks so much. Well, that wraps up today. So thanks so much for listening, guys, and we'll see you next time. Bye. Bye.
