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Speaker: If someone hands you an envelope and there you go. Yeah, they're like, welcome. It's a man from the great beyond who just shows up and is like, here you go. And they disappear. This is how the world works. Mine, that's, you know, maybe that was because I was on the streets of Austin when I turned 30 and just, you never know.
Speaker: Hey, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Unprofessional Opinion. I'm Heather. And I'm Caroline. Let's go. I just stare at you. It's like, I'm ready. I'm here. I'm back. I am back. Welcome back to the show. I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for having me. Round two. Love it. Of course. I know it was just so fun, so we should keep talking. I love to talk with you, so this is music to my ears. This just feels like when I came over for the snow day and we were just
Speaker: Right. You know, watching Selling Sunset and just catching up. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And that, like, we were literally sitting for probably four hours and before 6 p .m. before I knew it, which is so rare. That was so fun. I know. I love that. I love it. Well, again, I'm so happy to have you back and that you're here. This is going to be a cool episode. So we're doing a little mini series. If you haven't caught last week's, definitely listen to it. But this is
Speaker: a little mini series called 30 things I learned before 30. Dirty 30. And I'm so pumped to talk about this. Basically each episode we'll be talking through six things that we learned maybe in our 20s and also maybe things that we don't want to take to our 30s. So 30 things before 30. But before diving into the meat and potatoes,
Speaker: Let's talk about trips that we're doing this year. Fun things coming. Are you going to do more fun? One of my favorite topics. Yeah, actually, this is maybe just the season of life we're in, but I feel like the past two years have been like travel, travel, travel.
Speaker: Um, one I'm most excited. I'm actually going to Greece this summer for my good friend's wedding. That's going to be amazing. Oh my gosh. I was just planning this morning. What a dream, right? And it's on the island of Crete. So it's very, or in that area. So it's very beautiful with the water and
Speaker: because we haven't seen each other like you know what i think i'm assuming but i know that you're gonna have to record some sort of you know how they just run through all the cobblestone things like abba music the entire time that's what i told her i was like alison we're just gonna listen to abba and that's gonna be just our soul
Speaker: I've never been to Greece before, so I'm excited.
Speaker: It's going to be such a fun dress. We're going to Athens, then we're going to go over to Crete for the wedding for a couple of days, and then we've been told Mykonos is a little too crazy to go, so we're going to try Santorini, and then Panos, which is a little bit more off the beaten path. That's awesome. How long are you out there? Two weeks. Two weeks, but big 2024. I'm jealous. Anything else?
Speaker: Just a huge trip big what I mean, that's the big one But just like a couple weddings that are thankful in the US local like, you know here in Texas or out in North Carolina, which okay beautiful Friends from home friends from college and from work. Oh, I'm sure they just stayed out there Yeah, yeah, because Wake Forest is in Wake Forest is in North Carolina. So it'll be nice. I haven't been back there since 2020 So it'll be at the beach. This is actually my college roommate shout out. Hey Margaret
Speaker: Um, it's, we became best friends, you know, just day one of college, which was super rare. We lived together freshman year. We've been friends ever since. Wow. Freshman year roommates, it's either a hit or miss. 100%. 100%. I was terrified. I heard it. I don't know if you had a good freshman year experience. I had a good experience and it was actually one of my friends from high school that we've lived together, but I had heard stories of
Speaker: like, tape down the middle of the room. Don't go on your, like, my side. It's kind of ridiculous. Yeah. But I'm glad that neither of us had that experience. Me too. Just like living with someone in such tight quarters already. Yeah. And you're 18. Yeah. And it's kind of new. It's just that's way too much. You've never lived outside of your parents' house. Yeah. Except if you went to summer camp. I don't know about you. I was a summer camp girl. So did you ever go? I did. I did a lot of summer camps, but I didn't do a lot of overnight summer camps.
Speaker: But still, you went to summer camps. That still counts. You were able to go out and interact with other girls and learn how to be kind of alone. I see what you're saying. I keep telling people, go to summer camp because you'll learn before you go to college how to take care of yourself, how to
Speaker: Just be nice. All of that. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. But any trips for you coming up? I am, I'm going on a cruise for spring break. I don't know if I told you this, but I honestly not the biggest fan of cruises. Uh, it's just, I don't know. I don't know. You're stuck on a boat and I feel like I got vertigo the first time that I was on one and I was like, Oh God, I don't want to be on one again, but my whole family's going on it. So I'm pumped. We're just going to go like around Mexico. Oh my gosh. That'll be fine. And then.
Speaker: My mom's sister and I went to the Dominican last year, and we're thinking about doing some sort of trip like that again, but it will probably be like one of those all -inclusive places. That's kind of what we're thinking, but we haven't booked it yet. But that's the plan. And then besides that, just travel around here, go out to California, at least at one point. But yeah, that's kind of it. So excited. I love that. Wow. Big 2024. Yeah, it'll be fun. We've got some big plans. I know. World travelers.
Speaker: More like you. No, you're going to a different country. Mexico counts. I know everyone. Yeah, I know. Mexico, in my head, does not count as another country, but it obviously is. But also this year, I'm turning 30.
Speaker: And so are a lot of our listeners and you are 30 already aren't you? I am. You're so wise. I am a fresh 30. You're so wise. Oh yes. You change a lot. The second you turn 30 that's when all the secrets of the universe are revealed to you. Nobody tells you that FYI, no. Someone hands you an envelope and there you go. Yeah, they're like welcome. It's a man from the great beyond who just shows up and is like here you go and they disappear.
Speaker: This is how the world works. Maybe that was because I was on the streets of Austin. When I turned 30, you never know. The streets of Austin can be a mystery. But that's true. But the envelope and the man is not true. But being in Austin was true. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the streets of Austin can meet some interesting people. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I feel like there's so many cities. What a fun place to turn 30, though, in Austin. That's awesome. It was awesome. Yeah, we did. It's been so long since I've been there.
Speaker: What did you do? We went to Fredericksburg. Oh, okay. Which is beautiful. If you haven't been - Hill Country, yeah. Hill Country, one country. I mean, one time. Oh my gosh. It's gorgeous. It was just fun to just be with a bunch of girlfriends. Yeah. Because we stayed in Austin.
Speaker: Um, but we took like a big bus and we went out to a couple vineyards the weekend and they gave us lunch and it just was so cozy and fun. But we stayed in Austin, but we stayed in Austin. Yeah. But they took care of everything. The company we did it through and kept us happy, comfortable fed, which is, you know, all the recipe of the good 30th, which is what I needed.
Speaker: I love that. And yeah, and that's kind of what spurred this little mini series was I'm turning 30. And so I'm just curious on what my friends think about just like you, my other friends have just such good advice. And I feel like in the fact that you are 30, probably self -reflected as well too of what happened to my twenties. I don't want to take into my thirties, all that stuff. So I know you have three things you're sharing and I do as well. So I'd love to hear what one of your first one is.
Speaker: your 30 things before 30. Okay. No, I love that you're doing this because I feel like 30 becomes such a milestone for people. I was just saying that. But it's also almost like over before you know it. Yeah. It's a weird milestone because it's like, I don't know, like 20. I feel like it's one of the most defining decades, like 20.
Speaker: is not as big. I mean, you're kind of, you're in, I think, yeah, you're in college. If you go to college, like that, you're in college when you turn 20, but 30, it's like you have, you're done with this whole system where you know where to be and when to be and probably what you should be doing. And then you get into adulthood, which is like, then your early twenties and you're just like,
Speaker: a free range chicken and don't know what to do, where to go. You're not being told what to do. And there's so many ups and downs. I'm trying to figure out what's right and what's right for you. And then you hit 30 and then it's like a good self -reflection. And I've heard 30s are your best years, but I feel like your 20s are a lot of like learning years and so a lot of like failures and successes. And so there's a lot
Speaker: I feel like when you hit 30, it's a bigger milestone in my head. It's probably one of the biggest ones. I agree. There was a lot of lead up in my head to 30, both in good and bad ways. I think a lot of people face this because you're like, oh my gosh, what have I done? What have I achieved? Because there is that pressure of a whole new decade, a whole new ... It's almost like New Year's Eve. You're like, what have I done?
Speaker: You start, at least for me, it felt like New Year's Eve, but then the second my birthday came around, I just felt very happy and I had fun with friends. I was like, you know what? We just put so much pressure on ourselves. It's not scary. Yes, it's not scary, but that actually leads me, for some reason your analogy, even fit in my head of the free range chicken.
Speaker: We always have the animal analogies, and I love it whenever we talk. I know, it was a sloth last time I missed the chicken. Yes, your 20s, you are kind of a free -range chicken, but I think at the same time, that energy can be still brought into 30. That's like my first one, is stay excited over the little things.
Speaker: Obviously, I have not figured this all out for myself. So this is just stuff that I'm hoping to maintain in the next decade. Nobody hasn't figured out that that's okay. No, exactly. And that's almost the beauty of it because no one has it figured out. Stay excited. Stay open and curious and maintaining that chicken 20s energy. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker: I don't know if I like that. Free range chicken energy. Free range chicken energy for your 20s. Everybody, be organic. That's how it goes. So stay curious. Stay curious. Okay, so keep the kind of like, quote unquote, young energy. Yeah. And I used to, this is like going into a little bit of a story, but I used to hate it when people would say, oh, you're just so nice.
Speaker: And that was a comment I got. Everybody's nice. Everybody's nice. Exactly. Where it just felt like that's it. That's all you have to say. Like I'm nice. It just felt so bland. And sometimes I did have a little bit of a work environment when I first moved to Dallas that was not the greatest. It came off as a little bit
Speaker: Like, oh, you're just so nice and naive, you young, sweet little child who doesn't know anything. And I hated that. Because I was like, listen, I am 25 years old at the time. I was like, I'm not stupid. But now I'm kind of using that as like, you know what? Yeah.
Speaker: I am nice. I am excited. I'm going to choose to stay positive even if other people want to bring that down. And obviously, like everybody, I'm not positive all the time. I have my bad days. But I think it's bringing in that excitement and that energy. People will try to bring that down. I don't know why.
Speaker: People like to see you having a good day or feel some sort of way if you walk in a room. Misery loves company. Misery loves company. So I think that's almost what I've learned, not only just being excited about the little things and trying to keep that curiosity, but also realizing not everyone's going to like that. And that's okay. I just kind of got excited or excited, exhausted, not excited about pleasing people. I got exhausted pleasing people and I think that's been the biggest turnaround.
Speaker: Just be yourself. The right people will stay. Not everyone can like you and you can't like everyone. You listened to a podcast and what was that thing that he said? Oh my gosh, yes. His name is Case Kenny. He's had a podcast for a while now and it's a little similar to this where he just talks about his opinion on life, love, relationships, all of that. I love it. He's actually from Chicago too, so shout out.
Speaker: He has a great Midwestern voice, but he was saying you have to recycle the bad things that come to you because it's so easy to spiral and to take bad comments or a bad day and just say, oh, you know, everything's the worst. I'm just going to use this and like sit in my feelings for days on end. He says instead of doing that, recycle it out into something good.
Speaker: For example, if you are quitting your job to start a new business and maybe someone in your life says, why would you do that? You have no healthcare or you're starting a podcast. Who's going to listen to your podcast? Why are you doing this? Anytime you start to do something that feels good to you but maybe is off the beaten path for other people, he says, use that negative commentary
Speaker: kind of your list of what to do next, of saying like, you know what? You're right. Maybe no one will listen, but also that's something on my to -do list now to get people to listen to my podcast. Oh, I'm going to start this new job. Maybe I don't have an idea of where I'm going, but it's a new job.
Speaker: first step on my list, get familiar with this new industry or figure out ways to have a side hustle. So it's motivation and recycling bad energy into good. I love to hear that. That's cool. Well, that was great. What a loaded first one. That was awesome. We could end there. Wow. I feel like I'm sweating. Literally.
Speaker: I'm telling you, you turn 30 and it's all just like, it's a lot of self -reflection. Yeah, yeah. But I want to hear yours. I'm curious as you're approaching 30. I know, I know. Well, I think I said this to my other friend on the other episode, but I do identify as like 30 already. I just feel like, I just feel older and it's just based off like certain life lived and all of that.
Speaker: I'm clearly not. I'm just grounding myself and be like, okay, you're not 30 other, but what are you self -reflecting on? My first thing that I wrote down was no one cares about you as much as you care about you. More so in the thought process of take care of yourself, whether that's your mental health, your physical health. I don't know why, but when I was thinking about that, I thought about when your mom is making appointments, doctor's appointments for you.
Speaker: Obviously it's not like in your twenties, probably when you're like a teenager and all that. And then when you get older, it's like you have to make your own doctor's appointments. You need to care about your health. You need to be the advocate for yourself, whether that's your health or your career or your side hustle ambitions. You are responsible for that. So take care of yourself and care about it. No one's going to, you know, I mean, yes, you're going to have maybe your husband or your boyfriend or your mom or your dad who's cheerleading you and your best friend.
Speaker: no one's going to care about it as much as you do. So you need to be continuously self -motivating yourself to help every aspects of your life. So that was at least prevalent for me. Even like the doctor's appointment stuff, it was like, I remember I was talking to my mom. I had to go to a bunch of doctor's appointments at one point. It was like spring of last year. And I was like, mom, they don't really know what it is or can't figure this out. And she was like, you need to be actively trying to figure this out. Talk to this person, talk to this person.
Speaker: Because they're not like, you care about it more than anybody else does. So you need to be your own advocate. And it just kind of was like a light bulb for me. It's like, okay, well that can even be applied to the medical industry. Well, it needs to be applied to other aspects of my life as well. So that was at least my first one. That's so important. Yeah. That's so important. Because I think everyone thinks, oh,
Speaker: You have to have this big revelation coming out of your twenties into your thirties. But that is so simple, but I think essential, you know, like if we're not, cause we're adults, we can do whatever we want. It's like what all the little kids say. I don't know if you've seen outdoor recess. No, it's this account where this guy goes around New York city and interviews little kids.
Speaker: It is the cutest thing ever. Highly recommend outdoor recess, just anytime, because it's hysterical. Is it creepy? No, it's funny. He's this very sweet, like young. Out of context, it sounds creepy. Right? I know. It's this man walking around New York City talking to five -year -old children. Hey, kid. What do you want to do? Yeah.
Speaker: Without knowing any context, that's what I like. What's the level of appropriate? It is very appropriate. It's so appropriate that they went to the Emmys, okay? I'm sure they have the parents approval. Yes, the parents were there. The parents are there during the interviews as well. But that's really cute. Okay. It's the same thing. It's just it's hilarious. It's this younger guy and he's just like talking to these kids and just
Speaker: Interviewing man on the street style. Yeah, and they all say like he's like what are you excited to be when you grow up? They're like, oh I can't wait to be a grown -up because you can do anything you want and that's true. Yes, but like to your point You can do anything you want if that means you have a free range chickens if that means not going to the dentist Don't go to the dentist if that means not making your doctor's appointment don't do it, but you will be
Speaker: Regret that. Yeah. Probably when you turn 40. That's the thing. I mean, if you don't care about it, it's not like somebody else is like, have you made your dentist appointment? Have you done your checkup? Like, I mean, you need to be responsible for that. So I guess this is a PSA. I'm like kind of speaking to myself too. If you have not gone to the dentist in a year ago, I don't think I've gone in like a year and a half? Two years? Oh no, go to the dentist. I know. That's why I'm like, this is a self -reflection. No, this is like you were saying. It's literally you think of things.
Speaker: Oh my gosh, but it's like what we were saying before when we were like talking before the show. What you said about your mom making appointments. Obviously my mom did the same thing. I had the same doctors back in Chicago where I'm from until maybe four years ago. And then I was like, okay, time to find people in Dallas because I live here. Do you ever get nervous when you call to make an appointment or make a reservation at a restaurant? Cause for me, I'm like, hi, I'm just a child.
Speaker: They're like, hi, how can I help you? And I'm like, I'm making an appointment. It's weird. Not okay. So not for the appointment, but I've always, I always got the anxiety at the doctor where it's like, okay, what's wrong with you? Why are you here? I'm like, uh, nothing. I'm totally fine. Like, you know what I mean? That's where I'm like panic. Uh, cause you have to like, I don't know. That's where I always be like, mom, mom, tell them what's wrong with me. Why am I here? That's where I get anxiety. But I feel like I've now stepped into another zone where I don't, I don't get that.
Speaker: I love that, right? It's so hard. But getting that question, like, why are you here? And they start going through the list. You're right. That is nerve wracking. I know. It's like, what do you say? It's like, how many drinks of alcohol do you have per week? I'm like, um, none. Zero. You're going to judge me. They should change the question. They really should. I am a good person. Oh, my god. OK, so what about your second one? Number two, this is a lot less, I guess, oh, let me. You can hear my notes. Here we go.
Speaker: This is a little smaller than the other one, but I feel like I made a big move about five years ago. I'm from Chicago, lived in North Carolina, both for school, lived there for work a little bit afterwards, and then moved to Dallas for a new job and to try something totally new. And I didn't know anyone when I moved here. And about six months into doing that, I thought it was the stupidest idea I'd ever had. I was like, why did I do this? All of these bad things happened in the first six months of moving to Dallas.
Speaker: Like very long story short, like my car when I was moving it down here, I used a shipping company and they totaled my car. And I pulled up with my dad who was the nicest man ever and drove me from North Carolina down to Texas. We spent like 48 solid hours on the road together, if not more. I was like, is that my car? He was like, no, no, that can't be your car. And turns out it was completely totaled. They left it on the side of the road. Anyway, drive your own car is the moral of the story.
Speaker: I feel like I have other questions, but we can talk. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. That's the way. Oh, yeah. But oh, yeah. So that all just goes to say I was entering a totally unknown scenario, and everything seemed to be going badly. I did not love the job. I felt lonely. I had no friends. I was just a whole new city with no nature. There's nothing to - Why did I move here? Yeah, exactly. But I think that beauty of what I've learned since and I want to take into my 30s is that
Speaker: The unknown is your possibility zone, which I can't help but rhyme. Let's go. That was unplanned. I'm so sorry, but I can't help it. Repeat it. Repeat it so that people in the back can hear. It's the possibility.
Speaker: Anyway, um, but it's all about like, people see that as being so scary and it is, but you never know what could happen for yourself. Possibility zone. It's embracing that. That's true. So that's my number two. That's awesome. That's, I love, that's like a short thing to easily remember, you know? Um, okay. My number two is. So if you are struggling with anything, you're not alone. And that's just so cliche for someone to say, but it's actually true. And that's at least something that, again, this is all like the things that I learned in my twenties and
Speaker: Like for me, my first thing was anxiety. I went through a little spell of just being so anxious and not sure why and all of this. And I'm speaking of Austin, what was going on in Austin with my friend and we're just naturally catching up and this got brought up.
Speaker: And I don't know if she brought it up or I did, but it got brought up. And then I was, we both were like, oh my gosh, we're both struggling with this and we're kind of at the same journey. And it just was kind of therapeutic at the same time. And you just like know that you're not alone and you just feel less isolated. And so I think what that taught me was open up about how you're feeling, open up about your struggles. It could help someone else, but it could help you in return as well. And also just knowing that
Speaker: you're not the only one that is struggling with something. Someone else has likely struggled with it or know somebody or secondhand, you know, struggled with it. So yeah, I mean, I feel like people, a lot of people just have experiences that they just don't share. And I, this could even go into, you know, having trouble having kids, you know, a lot of people maybe don't open up about how they've been having to do all of these.
Speaker: extra supplements or shots or whatever, and then that will come out and then it helps somebody else. Having a miscarriage, whatever it is, if you can open up about that, obviously to the point that you're comfortable to, you'll find that oftentimes others are struggling with these challenges as well. And it's therapeutic and beneficial to talk about for both parties. So that's what I learned from my number two. I'm so glad you brought that up because I feel like, well, even just in our friendship, that's what I appreciate so much that
Speaker: We can always talk about anything. Even this podcast, I feel so happy and like comforted listening to it because it's literally just people in not necessarily our same life stage, but just people our own age just talking off the cuff about unprofessional opinions and advice and just kind of getting beyond that quote unquote internet talk we hear all the time. It's like everyone's perfect.
Speaker: that toxic positivity that we hear about some people too. It'll be fun. Everything's not perfect. Yeah. And that's what is the beauty of life. Yeah, absolutely. Little mic drop. There you go. Your mic drop moment. Beautiful. I love it. But yeah, I appreciate you saying that. Okay, you're number three.
Speaker: And my number three is actually very similar in tone to your number two, because, well, kind of backstory, similar to what you were just mentioning, I feel like for some reason on Instagram, I've been getting served a lot of nostalgia videos, where it's like 90s kids, early 2000s kids, remember this theme song, remember this show. And my sister sends them to me all the time. I'm like, please stop, you're ruining my algorithm. I don't want to watch the Rolly Poliole introduction again.
Speaker: Did you ever have did you watch really poorly? Yes, it's not like registering. I'm gonna watch after this Oh, just wait. It'll be in your brain once you watch it as a 29 30 year old. You'll be like, oh god This has been hidden deep down. You know what? Anyway, yeah, it's not a show role clearly. It's a kid show Okay, so yeah that I always remember is what was it called the big chair the big red chair? Oh my gosh the big couch I think it was a big couch and the girl she looks like a doll and
Speaker: And you know what I'm talking about? She does a clock thing with her legs. Oh, PBS. It was the big couch. I think so. That was my jam. Oh my gosh. I loved it. And that's like an ID show. It is. Isn't it funny to think all your friends, her legs were the clock, which is terrifying to think about now as an adult, like how flexible. I feel like we go back to the stuff that we used to watch. It's probably disturbing, but it was so entertaining at the time.
Speaker: It's like, yeah, but it's also crazy to think that people who you now know in life, who've grown up in totally different states, all watched the same shows. We're the same people. We're the same people. And that's exactly where we live. Yes. And that's exactly what the comments in all these videos say. We've all just lived the same lives. And that's funny to think about, but at the same time, it is true to an extent. And that's kind of what my number one is.
Speaker: You know, nobody's got it right. Nobody's perfect. And it's okay to be a little lost sometimes. And as someone who was very academic oriented growing up, I was a dancer growing up and all through college, those are very boxed in areas where you just move and keep going and push on to find success or to be the best in your class or to be the best dancer or whatever your level is that you want.
Speaker: And failure wasn't really, I felt an option. And I know that was totally self -imposed. I know this now. And it got me to some cool places and some great places I'm proud of. But I think what my biggest realization is that you don't have to know everything. You don't have to be perfect because that doesn't exist. And it's honestly just gonna cause you grief in the long term. And I literally had to do that with dance. Like, you know, I did ballet for so long.
Speaker: And when I got to college, I did modern dance, where you literally have to break down all those heart vines. This is where I'm getting really moving hoops. I can't help it. For those who are watching the screen, I can't help it. I have to talk about it, and I have to move. Show us what it's like to break it down, Karen. We'll do a dance class next time. You don't want to see me do hip hop, though. That is not my area of expertise. Most people, if they're not professionals,
Speaker: It's tough to watch. I mean, if I did it too, same thing. But the people who know how, know how, those dance videos, I mean, you can just get like a loop of watching all of them. It's so cool. They're so awesome. Especially the studios out in LA. Anyway, I digress. You literally, like for me, it was a physical breakdown of just like,
Speaker: I need to learn how to throw myself on the floor and to lose all my training and use all, lose all the technique that made me so rigid for one type of dance into a different type of dance, which is so fluid. Where literally you're on the ground. Literally that's your life. And that's, that's what, it's almost like my little metaphor for life. It's okay to break down and like, not literally, that's okay too. It's okay to break down your walls of what you think
Speaker: you can do and who you think you are. And if you get a little lost in that for a minute, that's OK. It's kind of what you said. You've got the right friends and family and people in your life to kind of bring you back and be like, hey, maybe this isn't going so well for you. Or it brings you energy to go somewhere else. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. That's cool. I love that. I feel like that's a really cool analogy with dance, just breaking it out and getting lost and figuring it out. And that's, again, just the beauty of figuring out this life.
Speaker: But that's cool. Okay. My third is, so do you like have like aches and pains? Yes, but I've had that since I was 20. So I'm kind of terrified. Is that like from dance and stuff? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I have one of my best friends, which, you know, Grace.
Speaker: like had two hip surgeries and she would before, I mean, when she was like 25. I mean, but she did dance too. So it was kind of like, you know, just a dancer's body. But we're all so. Everybody, we're too young to be having all these ailments and aches and pains. Don't you think so? Yes. But funny that Grace was a dancer too, because I think there's some correlation there. We're just very tight.
Speaker: Anyway. Yeah. No, I, it's the, there's so many aches and pains that I didn't realize that I would be, I guess one of the things I learned, which this isn't exactly my point I'm getting there, uh, is. So yeah, we get these aches and pains. We're too young. I feel like in my head to be happy is aches and pains. What I think about like, Oh, why am I hurting? Why is my lower back hurt? That's like mainly like what hurts for me. It's because I'm sitting at a freaking desk for five days a week, not doing anything just like this, like a little.
Speaker: I don't know, worker bee, and I'm getting to these spells a couple of weeks where I'm too busy to work out or I'm traveling and I really haven't gone on any walks or went out and exercise and broke a sweat. And that's why I'm hurting is because I haven't exercised. So what I learned in my 20s that I want to take it to my 30s is the view of exercising. It's not just in my head, it was like, okay, well, I want to run a half marathon. I'd sign up for it and then I'd run.
Speaker: It's not about doing it. What does exercising mean to you? For me now, I view it as it's impacting your mental health and your physical health. You are doing this so that I can play with my kids when I get older and I can stay just feeling good. My mom's really healthy and doesn't have too many aches and pains, but my dad had a lot.
Speaker: And when he was exercising, he had the least amount of pain. And so, but when he wasn't, he had the most amount of pain. And I would just not want to be in pain. I want to enjoy how I feel. And so anyway, yeah, if you exercise, then it, you just don't feel as bad. And it, it was just, it's so basic, but it was such a shift for me. And you know what actually got me was I'm a big, like,
Speaker: Instagram real TikTok girly that this short little clips, it's what feeds my ADHD. I love it. And so I had found this short little TikTok or Instagram, you know, and it had, I think it was like five or six exercises to do for your lower back. And again, it was just some exercise. It wasn't like I had to break a sweat or go pick a ball or go on a run. And I did this exercise for like five days a week. I was like, I wonder if it'll work five days a week.
Speaker: and I had no lower back pain at the end of that. It was like do it five times a week before bed, none. It completely went away. Can you say that to me later? I'll see if I can find it. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It was incredible. And it was the most basic stuff. It was like the stretching and just mobility a lot. I mean, that's also like an exercise, but it just blew my mind that like, I mean, it's so basic. If you move your body, then you won't hurt as much. You won't have all these aches and pains.
Speaker: Yeah, I thought it was super cool. And again, this isn't anything new that we're coming up with, but it was more so enlightening for me to be like, there's a reason to move your body and to exercise. It will impact you in the long run and you're just going to feel a lot better. So it's good to at least build the momentum and the consistency of prioritizing this over other things for sure.
Speaker: I love that. And I like what you said about longevity too, that you see even in like the grandparent generation right now, like those who are a little bit more sedentary or maybe not doing so well, and then the ones who've kind of kept up walking every day or riding their bike are doing really good. My mom's going to live to like 120. She walks like three miles a day, plays football with her friends. I mean, she's, yeah, but she's
Speaker: I mean, she has her aches and pains, but I mean, imagine if she didn't do all that exercise, you know, it would just hurt so much more. Yeah. Yeah. And something to talk about at 30 literally. I know about aches and pains. Just wait until we reconvene in 10 years. And I honestly, sometimes I'm like, I was, I was in literally last weekend.
Speaker: And I was like, again, I went through a little spell where I wasn't working out for like two weeks. And so I'm like, mom, I'm like hurting all over. I'm like, what am I going to be like at 40? I mean, I'm already now, I can imagine at 40 or 50. And I'm like, okay, Heather, take a step back and relax. Just go on a walk. Do some mobility exercises with your hips. You're going to be just fine. That's all it is. That's all it is. It's nothing crazy. And you're right. We sit at our desks all day long.
Speaker: All day. Go figure why you're hurting. Yeah. Go figure why you have a headache. You've been staring at a screen, three different screens all day long. Yeah. Get off TikTok. PSA, get off TikTok. Get off TikTok. I say for myself too. One more side note, new fear unlocked. Have you heard about the tech hump? No. The tech neck?
Speaker: No, I'm sure it's like a hump on your back. It's literally a hump on your back. Is it real? Is it science? Oh, it's real. No, no, this is science. This is like things that doctors have noticed, especially in like younger people, like us and younger who've just had our phones since our teenage years. So we're humping over. That we're humping over. We're like the hunchback of Notre Dame. Don't millennials, let's not be the hunchback of Notre Dame. Don't be that. Notre Dame. Yeah, Notre Dame. Notre Dame. Come on.
Speaker: for all the French, Notre Dame. That's what I was saying back in Arkansas. There you go. There you go. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, not honestly that crazy because we do just hunch over so much, but I'm like sitting up a little bit. I want to just like put my shoulders back and get in the back braces. But that's what happened when I learned about that. It kind of motivated me to be like, think of tech neck, like put your head up. Is that how you fix tech neck?
Speaker: Yeah, it's just having posture. Yeah, and it goes away, I think. Again, I'm not a doctor. I have no idea, but it's just a phenomenon. They've noticed that people are just, they have such poor posture and are looking down. So, yeah, just little reminders. The folks at Bridgerton would have never had tech neck because they're just walking so prim and proper. Right. Except we would have had to wear corsets if we lived back then. I'd rather have tech neck then. Yeah. Tech, is that what tech neck? Tech neck. Tech neck then a corset.
Speaker: Me too, but to live in that time period, that's a whole other podcast. That would be fun. That's a whole other question of what time would you want to live in, but... Oh, we'll put a pin in that for next time. That would actually be really fun. Well, thanks so much for joining, guys. We will see you next time. Thank you. See ya.
