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Speaker: You have to choose where you put your energy every day. And some days that's going to be different. Maybe you're sick or just feeling down or got stressful news. Then like you have to divvy up how you want to spend your energy. And if that means like canceling plans or whatever serves you or adding a therapy session that week or whatever that is, it's like the only person that knows your own limits is yourself.
Speaker: Hey, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Unprofessional Opinion. I am Heather, and I'm here with Grace today. Hey, Grace. Hey. So glad to have you. I feel like this has been on pause for months because you've been carrying a baby, baby Charlie. Had a baby now and now. Crazy. It was honestly really cool to like see you and Blaine as parents for the first time, like actually like in person. So that was really cool. It's a wild ride. Yeah. Everyone that asks, I'm like, it's just the Wild West. There's no way to describe it. You're just thrown into it. You figure it out. It's got to be like - And I still feel like that four months later. Well, I bet. I feel like we'll probably always feel that way. You're just kind of figuring it out on your own. But anyway - Oh, it's changing. Yeah, for sure. And every baby is different, probably. I don't have kids, but I'm guessing.
Speaker: I only have one, so yeah I assume so. But anyway, so glad to have you here. I know we've had some of our other friends on, but Gracie, I'm needed to have you on here. For backstory, Grace and I have been friends for, oh my gosh, I think it's going to be like eight years, right? Yeah. Dallas for about eight years. 2016, yeah. yeahp Met at our first job, lived together for a couple years. at our, I know, I loved our little state and Allen season. That was like the best, I've been uptown. It was so much fun. And then now you're a parent and I'm a dog, dog mom. We've grown up. It's so weird how fast time goes by. I know. I was like laying in bed last night with Lane, like looking at him. I was like, are we old? Like I feel old. I was like, remember when we used to go out on a random Monday night? Yeah. I was like, what if we still did that?
Speaker: and what if we were like le but oh really it's like What if we were like, let's to the bar where they race turtles. That sounds like really fun on a Tuesday night. like please do those quarter bar like what's look I feel like we're doing happy hour every single day and just like rinse and repeat. I don't know. I couldn't even like drink like more than like two glasses of wine. So I know. Well, I really, I really tested my limits and I haven't caught you up on all the dude ranch in Montana and everything, but I tested my drinking limits because it was, my liver was hurting every day. The altitude is like, I think I told you this when I actually went to Jackson Hole, the drinks hit different there because you're already at such a high elevation.
Speaker: And I think you don't realize it until you're like on your ass. What just happened? I had two drinks. But I remember I had half the drink the first night I was there. And I was like, it's time for bed. That was just my parents. And I was like, I don't know, 21. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, I felt bad because Keaton's parents were like, I could not drink. I could not drink as much. like I was like, I'm tired. Yeah, maybe that's what it was too. And I think also it was more like, I've never done this like physical activity before, like horse riding.
Speaker: like wake surfing, skeet shooting. Like my body was not physically like ready and in shape for this. I didn't know he did all that. I know it was fun. I, we're going to have to debrief further after that. Seriously. I know you called me at the airport happened first. I know. Well you called me at the airport and I was like, there was about to be food in front of me and I was like, yeah, I'm like, okay, how do I, where do I start? You know, more than anyone I'm like, I'm gonna get the middle headspace if it's gonna be like a longer conversation too. I love you. yeah I had wings on the way. And I know Keaton's gonna listen to us but I need the Heather version without Keaton. Okay. All the details. That's what you're gonna get for sure. Unfiltered.
Speaker: Oh, you'll get that. You'll get that. But did you have a good fourth though? What did y 'all do? Yeah, it was good. We went down to the coast. My whole family was there. That was the first time we had all been together since Christmas, which is so crazy. Was it Christmas? Yeah. Didn't they come up to Atlanta? at some point. um Yeah, but my dad wasn't there. Oh, it's always like one family member missing. Okay. um But it was good. I mean, it was just very chill. She's like going on in the boat. And I like grew up going to this house as a kid. So just good memories and
Speaker: Yeah, it was hot, but that's Florida everywhere is hot. air So I was like, dang, it would be nice to be in Montana right now. Honestly, it was like kind of hot in Montana though. It was really, it would get like, it was so strange. It would like, if you're in the sun, it's yeah like, I'm freaking hot. And then you would get in the shade and then ah like the breeze is so cool that it's you're cold. So I like couldn't, I couldn't like figure out what to do, what to wear. Layers. You can take it off and put it back on. For sure, but it was a blast. ah But anyway, so to digress, ah I wanted to have you on specifically. I know we've talked about like tons of different topics so far, but I thought we haven't talked about one around like managing stress. And both you and I, and honestly lots lots of people, like go through like stressful times. So I think it would just be like something interesting to talk about.
Speaker: So I'll kick it off with the question and you can give your unprofessional opinion on. Sound good? Perfect. Okay, cool. So the question is, so how do you manage your health, so physical, mental, emotional, when you're going through like a stressful or difficult time? What would you say? um I think stress is a hard one because I was telling Blaine, I was like,
Speaker: I have stress in like a corporate job or like a mom setting or but even like going to the store brings me to stress because there's like so many people there, like social anxiety. The grocery store though does give a lot of people stress. On a Sunday, like absolutely not. At a Trader Joe's. I'm all about the food delivery services. Oh my gosh, the parking lot at Trader Joe's is like chaos, especially the one that's over in Lower Greenville. Totally. And I guess if you're just totally unaware, you just go and do your own thing or you don't care. But I'm such an aware person. I'm like, oh, this person's trying to get by me. And I'm in this person's way. And I'm like, oh, I can't get to the broccoli. And it's like, the broccoli. You're fine. You're at the grocery store. Yeah. But it's weird because it manifests in so many different ways in so many different people. And what made me realize that was I was talking to my mom. And she's a K through 5 music teacher.
Speaker: which should be like the most fun job ever, yeah and which it is, but she was like so stressed about her annual um concert where like all the kids perform. and In my head, I'm thinking, mom, you're not presenting to like a CEO or CFO. like But then to me, I was like thinking about it. I was like, this is her Super Bowl. This is her biggest thing. so like no matter it that and it like When you compare it to something way bigger, like I don't know, public speaking or something like that, yeah I don't know. It's just so hard to compare. so
Speaker: Will you repeat the question? Yes, I would. I will. So how do you yeah how do you manage the stress during difficult times? How does your mom manage the stress getting ready for her big concert? I mean, I think it's also like all individualistic. like The way that I manage stress is probably different than you or different than anybody else. But for me, it's like constantly checking in on where where is my baseline at? And then evaluating from there. So like if my baseline is way off, then like I need to take a break. I need to meditate. I need to go for a walk. I need to like rebalance some way. And I can't always do that, but like being aware
Speaker: Yeah, but being aware or reflecting on it. Like if I have a peak of stress and I'm like irritable or snapping at someone, then try it later in the day I try to reflect. I'm like, hmm, that wasn't really the best version of myself. Like, yeah why is that? What can I do? But I have a soft plug for Oura Ring. Maybe they can sponsor this podcast. It's supposed to get one. I don't have one yet, but I feel like everyone around me is getting one. But um that has actually helped me a lot realize like where I'm stressed because it actually shows you where your heart rate's peaking. And I didn't realize, like I always knew I had anxiety like in public settings, but I'm such a social person and I love people that I didn't realize I had social anxiety until I got the aura ring and every single time there was an immediate peak of my cortisol and like my heart rate.
Speaker: And probably some of that's normal, but I think just the more aware that I can be about how I'm feeling in a certain setting is how I can manage my stress. um And then any way that I can slow down to like get back to a calm state. And it's not always easy. on And I fall short all the time. ah but like I know there's a lot of studies around like prayer and meditation and even if you're not religious,
Speaker: um how I think people who like pray like live longer and things like that because it's like releasing stress to a higher power. So regardless if you're religious or not, like some form of prayer. um or meditation or whatever that is. Acting is probably the best. Oh, and another soft plug, therapy. a yeah um As far as like understanding yourself and like self -awareness. Yeah, I can't Stressing it loud enough. yeah Stress it enough. I didn't even catch that. on But yeah, therapy just to reflect on your tendencies and yeah. Yeah, I get that. I definitely agree with that too. I feel like at least stress has kind of taken different forms for me. You know, I feel like it just says the more
Speaker: that you like get exposed to, the older that you get, that there's just going to be different types of stressors that come across. And so like like one example is when I was buying this house, I remember I like needed to do this one thing and like submit this like cashier's check, which you have to go to a bank to do that, which is ridiculous. okay I know, go get a cashier's check and it needed to be submitted like that day. And I didn't know it was a cashier's check. I thought it was a normal check. Anyway, it was all these things where it was like, this needs to get done right now. Like I need to leave and stop work right now to do it. And I was like, panicking. Like I, I had to like text Carly who I was working with and I was like, we got to get this call figured out. It was just like so stressed that I like time froze.
Speaker: And I feel like that's where like panic, like the panic attacks come into play if it keeps going further. you know But like I just froze. And that was like my first reaction. And I think it might be a handful of people's reactions to stress. It's just like panic, like pause, stop. and I think once you maybe get like a little bit past that is when you can like start to reflect or maybe like when you're in that point, that's when you can be like, okay, I'm here. What do I need to do to like help myself? And I think you said like going outside, going on walks. That's like my thing too. Just like being outside, getting fresh air, drink some water, just like do the physical things that you know are going to be good for your body. So I feel like that is at least what
Speaker: I do in the immediate. Um, I think also too, it's like even going back to like having anxiety. I also like got a weird spell of like social anxiety too. And sometimes I still like kind of get that way for a weird reason, but it's like talking to other people helps that because then you're like less stressed out. It's, I think the stress comes from like our brain, just like working this whole story in our head and building yeah it up and making us feel like stressed out when really it's like things are not as big of a deal as you know, They we may actually are, yeah for sure. yeah And like fear of the unknown. like If you just like ripped the Band -Aid off and do it, you realize like this isn't as bad. yeah um But one thing you were saying, like timelines and deadlines as far as like causes for stressors, yeah huge stressors. I was thinking about like just the home buying process. yeah it like Anything that has
Speaker: a timeline or a deadline or urgency tied to it. You can go out like a work project. Something about that makes my heart rate real. I think it's a skin drop. It's like you need the urgency. Otherwise, probably not much is going to get done if you're like, oh, I'm just going to do this when I feel like it. You need to have some level of stress. It's just there's a healthy level. I was going to say. There's a non -healthy level. That's what I was going to say, was what's the difference between healthy and unhealthy stress levels? That's like, how do you know? Yeah. We need a psychologist up in here. I know. I know. Okay. Next time I'm going to, we'll have a part two and we'll have someone that. That's why this is an ums unprofessional. unprofessional. Exactly. Not a professional opinion. So put it in the comments, what you think, what are healthy. stress but For real. Like we're asking because we need that answers for ourselves. Yeah. yeah No, but that's such a good point. Like.
Speaker: if we were all just like on this baseline of like chill all day, why wouldn't it be exciting? I feel like that's what California is like you know like. The surfers, they're just chill all day. yeah like They've not heard of a timeline. They're not doing anything. Maybe I'm just totally like casting some bad stereotype, but I just felt like they're like chill. I'm from Texas. I'm from Texas. We're stressed out. Meanwhile, you're dating a Californian. I know. Yeah, right? Um, but so get this. So I was preparing for this and I was like, I'm curious like how much of America is stressed out. So I know I shared some of these doubts with you, but so I found, um, have you ever done gallop that personality test before?
Speaker: No, but I've done like a gazillion others. I love personality tests. I do too. I actually, I did an interview at one point and I had to do a Gallup survey, but it's a Gallup poll from 2023. It said that 49 % of American adults reported to be frequently experiencing stress. So like nearly half the country is like, frequently stressed out. So that's great. And sometimes it's not higher, honestly. You think so? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's like frequently being stressed out. I don't know if I would consider myself frequently stressed out, you know?
Speaker: We have to definitely be the most stressed out country in the world, other than China. 100%. I'm like - You need to look up stats on that. I was just thinking, yeah. yeah I feel like Americans are always like hustle and bustle. What's the next thing? Always looking to keep them themselves busy and stressed out. So I can 100 % say that. ah But of that, I saw that. so and was's like twenty or two thousand and three It was it was 16 or it was 33%. So it's gone up 16 % in the last two decades. So I honestly, I could see it like getting higher and higher for sure. And when you were talking earlier about like how you feel like your social anxieties increased, honestly, I think a lot of it for me was COVID because we were like not used to social settings. And I wonder if there's studies on that too of like,
Speaker: I've heard about it in the workforce of like college students who like didn't do internships and things like that, then entering the workforce and like not knowing how to go to a work happy hour. Honestly, God bless those kids that like graduated during COVID and then started their first job working from home. like that has to be so strange, you know? Yeah. But even like think about we didn't go to like, I never had, things I had a little anxiety going to the store before, but now it's like a whole new level. Because not only was I like, had anxiety about going to the store, then I thought I was gonna die at the store, which like no wonder I'm gonna have anxiety about that. That's a great point. But yeah,
Speaker: COVID. ah Gosh. Well, you won't... Well, I'm curious if you're going to be surprised. I think i maybe I told you this, that also a part of that study, women are more stressed than men. Do you like agree with that? and Do you see that? Or is that like... I'm not surprised at all. Okay. That's what I thought too. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we wouldn't do so much. I forget who or where I saw this, probably TikTok. I read it. That's like, um, are we talking about this the other day? It's like, don't give them away your source. Like your, where you get your info is like, I read a book ah about this. I read a book about it. Um, but how specifically moms carry such a mental load, because it's not just like,
Speaker: Obviously providing for a household is like a huge responsibility and like working and just things like that. But then on top of that being like, did my kid eat their vegetables? They didn't. Are they getting enough nutrition? like How is that impacting their brain development? Just going down this deep rabbit hole all the while, you're trying to just like go to bed at night. yeah And that's like one night of the 365 days. And that's one thought of like the entire day. And just how heavy that is to be like, responsible for a human. um But I think even before I had Charlie, like I would think about that like from work, be over -analyzing how I performed on a call. And I actually did a women leadership
Speaker: um like core group where we had an expert come in and talk specifically about women leadership and how it differs from men. And there's a lot of studies about how men like don't, like they could make a mistake on a presentation. And they just like rolls off their shoulder. yeah Yeah. Whereas we're like, I'm the problem. It's me. Totally true. Yeah, it's me. like They didn't smile when I was presenting. They're pissed off. Yeah. And it's like, what did I do? And it's like, no. like You're fine. And it's like, think more. It's kind of like dinner stuff. like Think like you're like, what if I was in the end? Yeah. Damn. Yeah.
Speaker: That's so true. I do a job. I didn't know what to say, yeah. i But I let him disagree. You know that energy a lot. Yeah. of like You kind of have to act like it, you know especially when you're in a workforce that's primarily primarily men. you know You really do. You kind of have to act a little bit more like less emotional. Yeah, yeah. And that's like the female strength. So I mean, I definitely use that when I can. But as far as like, overthinking emails, like being so like nice and thoughtful and emails when my like male counterparts would just like, where's that report? Yeah, I know. i And it's like, yeah, it's the communication. And I think like, I you can just really see it in the workplace for sure.
Speaker: i but i but like Weirdly enough, I have gotten along more with like male bosses than female bosses, and I don't know why that is. but yeah because Maybe because they're more chill and they're less like you know like over ... I don't know. and that's it's not and That's just been like the majority of my bosses, but I don't know. I was going to say I feel like that one depends on the personality type. Probably so, yeah. And how you like to be managed. like yeah like Blaine just got a new manager. I feel like it's the same. like it's all It doesn't matter. like like It's the same gender, but different management styles. yeah and He has a very different management style than I'd like. so It's like kind of all preference. Yeah, that's true. I digress. last I know. Okay, last step. The most stressful ... I'll ask you this, Grace. What do you think? so
Speaker: age ranges. I don't know if I told you this already, but if I didn't, give me a guess. and What do you think the most stressful like age range is in America? Well, I've only lived through a few age ranges. You've lived up to 30 years. Congratulations. I feel like definitely not the first few years unless you have like big trauma. but like like your one, two, and three type of years? No, I'm thinking more like one through 15 or probably like good years, unless you're a big child. I would say like one through 21. I would say the stressors start around college when you're like getting all the pressures of like career. hundred percent And then I would say they peak probably I would say in your 30s to 40s when you have like kids, it's not only just like how am I like
Speaker: progressing in my career, but like, how am I going to pay for my kid's college? Oh, we want three kids. How are we going to pay for that? yeah Daycare. It's like all your stressors aren't just yourself or your spouse. it's like right other people die or yeah Or if you don't have kids, like just stressors of, like what do I want to do in my life? how do i want to You're really pushing your career at that point. Or maybe it's time for a career change. like yeah I think that's why they call it like midlife crisis. so I would say probably between the ages of 30 to 50.
Speaker: okay It's probably the peak. I know and it's a big range. 30 to 50 is the peak, is what you're saying. yeah I like to win, so I'm going to go with that. ah final answer. Okay, so it's 18 to 34. You had it on the mark because you were like, that it's going to college or going to trade school or entering the workforce. like it's such like a and That's why it was really fun to do the 30 before 30 series because there's so many things that you learn. those are like It's a big chunk of like transformational time. And then obviously like your early thirties too, I think, that that I don't know, I could just see that. But it actually decreases more and more and more the older you get. So it's like, I don't know, the next one, it's like 35 to like 45, it's at this percent. And then it's like, what, 60 plus, it's
Speaker: like so small. So it's, it gets yeah less and less each time. But I thought that was like spot on at least where my stressors have been. Why do you think it gets lesser after that 34 age point? I just think there's just so many like initial decisions on like what you want to do in your life. Like I love that I'm 30 and I'm almost past this because hopefully it' seriously I know we're like a little bit out of it, but I do. I feel like the 20 my twenties were just like, I don't know what I want to do. It's such like a great, like I'm so fortunate. to be I have all of this like i have this world, what I want to do, where do I want to live, like so many opportunities. and It's just so hard to like know what to do or what's the right thing. but yeah I think once you get into, like I would even say like late 20s, 30s at least, and I'm just 30, but it what it gets like a little bit
Speaker: I don't know. I feel like you just know yourself a little bit more because I even said, that's what I was going to say. yeah Yeah. Five years ago, I feel like I was, I mean, I'm still the same person, but I feel like I was maybe like a little immature. And at the time I thought I was like mature, you know, but like, I just feel like i I'm knowing myself more and becoming more of like an adult quote unquote, whatever. But yeah, yeah totally. I was going to, that's what I was thinking too. Like essentially your twenties is like, making yourself into the vision of who you want to be. right like Once you get into your 30s, you're like, I have this clear vision of who I want to be, what my priorities are. And it's like your people, your job, everything that surrounds you either supports that or doesn't.
Speaker: And if they don't, then it's like, I don't have time for this relationship or this job or for sure whatever that is. And I mean, this all ties back to stressors, because like, I think Morgan has this analogy of like, you only have so many coins that you can use each day. oh it her being you one is the feet analogy yeah coins whatever yeah You can use in a day and it's like that goes out to energy and friends, family. And like a big part of this that I didn't touch on in my initial spiel is boundaries and like managing stress because... That's a good point.
Speaker: You have to choose where you put your energy every day. And some days that's going to be different. Maybe you're sick or just feeling down or got stressful news. Then like you have to divvy up how you want to spend your energy. And if that means like canceling plans or whatever serves you or adding a therapy session that week or whatever that is, yeah it's like the only person that knows your own limits is Yourself. Yeah, and like I think that's the biggest lesson that I've learned with like work and balancing and work -life balance because that's obviously a huge stressor is balancing all of that with family right and like trying to be everything for everybody is like only I know what I need that day that hour that minute and like I have to know that within myself and be able to communicate that to others and to be the best version of myself and keep my stress low. That's true. It's communicating, too. I mean, you have to yeah like be your own advocate. so Which that is not easy. so I haven't conquered it. Let me know if anyone has conquered it. I don't know if anyone's ever going to get to the top of the stress mountain. I think we're all just like in the valley. ah But yeah, you said something that made me reminded me like about how people
Speaker: handle stress too. And I think it kind of goes back to like, I had jotted a note down about like fight or flight. like Because, you know, and I guess it kind of goes back to what I was saying with like buying the house and like feeling, you know, like the immediate panic, like everyone reacts a little bit different, but it's knowing yourself as you know, like what you were saying is what is super helpful. ah Obviously I know about all this, but like when my dad died, I did not, like when I found out the news, it was the craziest thing that I like how I handled it. Cause it's like, you just never know how you're going to handle certain pieces of information. just
Speaker: There's going to be other crazy stuff that I'm going to hear throughout my life, but it's like you just never know how you're going to react to like that stress and the pressure. and I did not like react the way I thought I would and it was like kind of bizarre because I was at a work conference. i was like getting yeah I was getting ready to go to a full day conference in like downtown Dallas and I had was about to leave the office downtown and my mom calls me and she was like, you know dad Just ah Fell it's not good. We're going to the hospital and I just like froze and all I knew what to do is like take a step forward and so I just like went to the conference and was like i remember that Compartmentalized you're all like Heather. It's okay. like I know I just I would go yeah, I couldn't you were like yeah, I could not like I Don't know. I don't know. I'd like I don't even know how to describe it but all like all I knew what to do is just to like I
Speaker: you know, stay connected with my mom, like figure out what was going on and like just continue throughout the day to not like freak out. And I mean, I don't like regret doing, you know, this or that. Cause it's like, you can't live a life of regret, but it is like so strange how I reacted and it like didn't really hit me until I'm like texting you guys and you're like, what are you doing? Like why are you, why are you still in Dallas? So it's really strange how you react. So I feel like I've had like, very like weird reactions to stress. And then other times it's like, I get a tornado alarm that goes off in the middle of the night and Keaton was with me too. And I was like, we gotta go, we gotta go. And like put on my contacts, grab a flashlight and I'm like ready to go. And so it like, it's like the different type of stress too is I think how you can react to it. But a I mean, going back. I think also everybody has different needs like in different times. Yeah. That could have been your way of like,
Speaker: distracting yourself. I think it was. I was like, it's not real until like I switched my brain to be like, it's real. I think I was protecting myself from the pain. And like I try to like remind myself because I feel like we're almost opposites on like the emotional scale. like I'm super hyper emotional and you're more like reserved. like I'm the one that's comforting me, just total opposites. But like I try to talk myself down of like, it's okay. like like my Once I get bad news, my brain immediately goes like a thousand miles down the road instead of being like, this is a piece of information, and what you knew then
Speaker: was a piece of information. It ended up being extremely tragic. But you didn't let your brain go there until like yeah it was actually time to go there. was Whereas when I get tragic news or like tragic information, I immediately go to like the worst case scenario. So then it just goes back to like how different people process. And I try to like hone myself in. um But yeah, there's definitely no like right or wrong way of... um of And especially like that level of... like hardships and bad news yeah like
Speaker: is Like there's no way, but yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's everyone. I mean, yeah, we've all gone through hard times and it's, there's no, yeah. Like, like you said, like there's not a right or wrong way. to react. It's just going back to what you had said, like knowing yourself, ah just taking care of yourself. Because there's some people who can, like you said, like um you're you're strong, mentally very strong. And so you would never like get to a point to be like, I don't know, do something crazy. And so, but some people like can, they don't know how to like stop themselves and everything. So I feel like what you do really great and what I admire about you, cause you've been through like hell and back as well at points is like staying like who you are and like, I don't know if happy is the word, but like finding joy and thankfulness and gratefulness in times of stress, which I feel like is, it's one thing to stop stressing out. It's another thing to like,
Speaker: see the light and this darkness and like just move through it. So that's really awesome too. Cause that's, I mean, like super Marvel. Yeah, thank you. That's actually a note that I had jotted down that I also forgot to mention in my intro. But I do have a newborn, so I have an excuse. But actually, Eva just got me these like gratitude bracelets. No way. And so and every time that you put it on in the morning, you say something, an intention for the day. um so like And there's five bracelets, so like one intention per bracelet.
Speaker: And then every time you take it off, you say something you're grateful for the day. um And I think this all ties into like just positive mindset, prayer, meditation, is like everybody has something that they're struggling with. some are like huge mountains, some are small mountains, but like I would say the stress levels can be similar no matter like how big or how small. um But I feel like mindset in and intentionality of that mindset and I've learned or like watched my sister go through this of like every single just horrible awful news that you could ever get as a human.
Speaker: to then be like but but this but that and Reframe your mindset because your circumstances aren't gonna change like there's some things that you can change in your life and there's other circumstances that you can't change um And so it's how can you overcome that and Every day can be a challenge, but I don't know. It's crazy how practicing like literally five bracelets of gratitude, or even like if you're having like a shit day just asking yourself, like what am I grateful for? What's one good thing that happened today? yeah um And kind of reframe your mindset of like how many things you do have to be grateful for, even as simple as, like I remember my dad used to say, like you have a roof over your head. like That is more than most of the people in this world have.
Speaker: so Be grateful. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to dad. Like bare bones. Yeah. What's actually important to you. So yeah. Wow. That's great. What a great way to wrap it up though. So thanks for sharing. Great job, Grace. Wow. First one. Amazing. Hopefully we can have you back again soon on chat about some other fun stuff. This was fun. Nothing stressful. Dink. Did you get it? Okay, thank you so much for joining. and And everyone, thank you so much for listening as well. um Hopefully we can have you join us again soon, but until then, we'll catch you next time.
