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episode 31 is Hayden Christensen still special ammo?!?
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the fellas reunite to go over if having the same special ammo on everything is actually worth anything, and the show devolves into talk about the film jumper at some point.
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Introduction & Host's Condition
00:00:07
Speaker
Cry about that you dirty old bitch Yeah What's up right it says time for another episode of waiting for other players a hunt showdown podcast It's an episode
00:00:24
Speaker
Pretty much like every other one. It's just where a dude and his buddy sit there face to face and talk about the game that we love. Hunt go down. Let's bring that friend in. Yeah. Oh yeah. Can I get a large Americano? No whip. All right. Don't put that whip on there. Oh yeah. The one man Kung Fu SWAT team
00:00:56
Speaker
the mayor of Montefisto, the one and the only the VIP of PVP, the five star, all star Harrison Harrison. How are you doing this evening? I'm doing great. How are you?
00:01:16
Speaker
I'm getting there. It's very clear that I'm still sick, but I'm trying to do my best to channel my inner game show host so we can have another fresh ass episode. That's good. We all need a fresh episode every now and then. Yeah. Okay. It is one of the very few things that I enjoyed doing as a stupid TV show. Good. I mean, I enjoyed not a TV show. So clearly I am very exhausted.
00:01:48
Speaker
Well, you know, you're still recovering from getting all of the flu. All of the flu and, you know, 12 hour days from November to the end of December. Yeah. Are those finally slowing up or are you going back to 10 hour days?
Game Mechanics: Tarkov vs. Hunt Showdown
00:02:05
Speaker
No, no, they're, they're, they're slowing up now. Okay. It feels like everything's kind of squaring away. Okay. But it's not about me. This is a bad hunt. And since it's a bad hunt, I'm your huckleberry.
00:02:20
Speaker
Just my games What do you mean getting into? Not much as of late I may try to Play some escape from Tarkov again. They just did the new wipe and We'll see how that goes. I assume it'll go like every other wipe Where I try not to break my keyboard
00:02:45
Speaker
Never fuck with like I've seen clearly I've seen psycho goes talk about I've never watched him play Tarkov, but like it's similar right? It's an extraction shooter. It is a extraction shooter Except there are modern guns and body armor. Well, yes It's yeah faster escape from Tarkov because not everything is more or less single shot It is lots of automatic guns. It is a lot of It's a lot more
00:03:16
Speaker
looting in the world and the AI Is a there they're all John wick so they can very easily take you out if you are not ready for them Mmm So you got to be careful with the AI a lot more and there's a lot more looting in the world than killing a boss and moving on Goddamn PC, man. They have all the fun shit They do
00:03:45
Speaker
They do, but it's still in alpha or beta. People have been playing it for like, well, I guess people played Fortnite for like 10 years before they released the finished product. So yeah.
Game Impressions: God of War Valhalla
00:04:00
Speaker
Well, it's a small team and you know, they're working on getting it together. So it can't be too upset about it. Yeah.
00:04:08
Speaker
We, we love our small developer teams, making great games, unlike all the triple A developers who are really shit in the bed. Kind of, uh, on that note, I crawled into God of war Valhalla. How was that? Fucking great. Really? I, I've heard nothing about it. They made God of war meets Hades. It's, it's fucking great. Oh.
00:04:34
Speaker
Like, yeah, you spawn in, they take away all of your buffs. You literally start from zero. And then the further in you get, you get health, you get like health, uh, your health will grow. Your rage will grow depending on what you do with it. Uh, you'll pick up runic attacks as you go, but like every little room, a couple of bad guys will spawn. You kill them and there's a chest that never will you open the chest. You get the thing.
00:05:00
Speaker
It's like Hades where you do all this shit and if you die Only thing's gonna happen is you just go back to the beginning with nothing and then you start fresh and you see how far you can get again That's pretty cool. How far I don't think I've gotten I've gotten far ish I don't think I've gotten very far the whole hook of it is that Valah it pulls on the memories of the people that are in it. So it's like I
00:05:30
Speaker
You're going to a lot of the places you've already been to in the game because they had the assets already on file. So you go to like remnants of Asgard and all these places you've already been to, but because it pulls on the memories, it gives them an opportunity and they make you go through back through parts of Greece.
00:05:52
Speaker
Oh, and then they, there's parts where it's like, they're literally lifting stuff straight from the older God of war games, like, like environments and puzzles. Uh, so it's amazing. Yeah. And it was free.
00:06:11
Speaker
You know, every, every great game that's had a free update has been amazing. Goes to Shishima. Great free update. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The multiplayer thing. Yeah. Yeah. And that was great. God awards, apparently great. Every other game that tries to come up with full game is just failing hard. Well, that, or you get stuck in like the, I actually, I actually really like call of duty.
00:06:41
Speaker
My problem with Call of Duty is that the updates require an entire fucking console because they're just so big. Like either you're playing just Call of Duty or you must have an external dedicated to those updates. Yeah, that right there. I can't, you know, Call of Duty was fun when it wasn't a whole console. Yeah.
00:07:07
Speaker
Call of Duty multiplayer's great because you're in, if you die, you can immediately get in another match. It's fast, it's brutal, but it's that amount of memory it takes to fucking keep that shit running. Yeah, that's crazy that they did that. But, uh, let's launch into segment two
Gaming Frustrations & Joys
00:07:28
Speaker
here. How are you not dead? I have no idea! Um...
00:07:35
Speaker
We're still trucking along, limping along. I don't know about trucking. We're dying more than we're winning, but we're taking people with us. Yes, we have started to burn everybody. It is still not going well, but it is a hellfire now because we burn everybody ever since they let flare pistols and flares burn people. It's helped a lot with this out there, everybody has.
00:08:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. We literally burned three flares on one guy because he just kept standing up and then we'd put him down and flare his ass again. Um, since all our gameplay kind of starts to bleed together at a certain point, I'll use this as like a mini half ass topic. Does it upset you? We haven't run into more people using the shadow leap as an offensive weapon.
00:08:26
Speaker
No, the whole thing was shadowy the minute we found out it was a thing It was I'm gonna use this to shadow leap in front of a person and fuck their life up and it has never happened to us Yes, I would much rather them just stand up Then a crown and king pop up in front of me and kill me. Oh I'm aware. I don't want it to happen. But the whole thing was I
00:08:55
Speaker
I had that nervous, like that look on your face when you, like when you're a teenager and you're talking to a girl that you know is way out of your league. And she asks you if you want to go hang out away from the group and you immediately have that Chris, uh, you have that star Lord meme face from off from, um, parks and rec, where he's just like, Oh, like that was me when I found out about shadow leap where I was just like,
00:09:24
Speaker
I suck at this game. This is going to make me suck harder. And I am going to love having a dude just materialize in front of my fucking face. And I put, I put a poll up on our Instagram and granted only a handful of people answered it. They all answered. No, that nobody's used it as an offensive thing. Like nobody's had it used against them. That was the question. Have you had shadow leap used against you in an offensive way? I don't know if that means that they've used it on people.
00:09:54
Speaker
But my whole thing was that I was like, no, I was anticipating this. I've been taking the bat. I've been taking, uh, knuckles. I've been taking berserker. So that way if somebody does show up, I can sock up, sock them in the face. Um, but yeah, no, it's, I'm more upset that nobody's used it as an offensive weapon.
00:10:15
Speaker
OK, well, I think that's because of how everyone's been playing hunt since the beginning. And nobody wants zombies coming in on you while you're trying to deal with crack, beak, the spider, the butcher, anything like that. Yeah. So they're clearing out enough of the zombies around them so that it's not an issue. You can't sneak in on them. Now, when they're running in between camps,
00:10:44
Speaker
is where this can happen, but it's, it's hard to deal and catch somebody in between camps. Yeah, definitely. Uh, it looks like that movie fucking looper or not looper, a jumper with Hayden Christensen because you'll just, uh, it was okay. Hey, Hayden, I like.
00:11:06
Speaker
I don't hate Hayden Christensen, but I just think he made some very janky judgment calls in his acting, like the roles he picked. I don't think he was good for that movie. Okay. I won't argue with you, but the movie, the movie was good. I just, I think, I think either he would have been, he would have been a good bad guy. I think if you went at him, maybe as like a disciple of Samuel Jackson.
00:11:32
Speaker
as opposed to the man. I just think him as a bad guy, I think he's a very compelling bad guy. We are getting way off the fucking track with hunt. That's fine. I think he'll listen anyway. Yeah. Only four people listen anyway. Um, Hayden Christensen could be a very compelling bad guy because
00:11:54
Speaker
while he always does that thing where like, um, he was prone to in episode three and, uh, jumper and, um, shattered glass where like he always looked like he was on the edge of like a nervous breakdown. Like he could start fucking doing that psychotic beating the shit out of you while he's crying at any point. Okay. I mean, it's just like the look he has where you're like, this guy has got some fucking issues.
00:12:23
Speaker
I would have just leaned into that. I would have been like, no, I think he could be a very good, like unhinged bad guy. But as far as like, I want this protagonist to be like, he was kind of like a Han Solo type and jumper. He was like a ne'er do well. He was stealing shit. He was using it basically to live like a carefree, like it just didn't seem like Hayden Christensen to me. That character didn't seem like Hayden Christensen.
00:12:53
Speaker
I mean, that was my only problem. OK. I mean, I think it's supposed to. He's not playing himself. He's playing the character. I'm aware. You're not going to go hire the guy that plays Sheldon to play Dirty Harry. There's got to be some there's got to be some like. Some way of being like, you know what, this guy could be that character.
00:13:20
Speaker
You're not going to hire the, uh, the guy, um, the guy that's the clown on modern family. Uh, Oh, okay. Yeah. The fatter uncle of the two gay uncle was the fat. You're not going to hire him to be fucking John McLean. Okay. That's all I'm saying. Like, like Hayden Christensen would have been good in the playing the other direction.
00:13:45
Speaker
All right. I can agree. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, Jesus Christ. Give, give me segment three Christ. Christ. Now I'm going to have people lighten up or I can't get anybody to interact with us on Instagram. But now that I've shared my thoughts about Hayden Christensen, not being a good protagonist in jumper.
00:14:15
Speaker
Watch that'll be the straw that breaks the fucking camel's back Hey, if not that then i'll go ahead and throw this out there battlefield or a great movie. I don't know why people hate it Old old claim It was a good movie old claim Yeah, i'll get some hate for it off of you i'll say that and we'll don't move on either You'll get hate for it or we'll find out who's a Scientologist in this crowd
00:14:46
Speaker
Everyone. Yeah. Put that down. Uh, our topic this, this evening will be, uh, we're talking like changes you've seen and the fact that special ammo is everywhere now. So is special ammo still special? We'll start off with the ammo thing. Um,
Special Ammo Discussion in Hunt Showdown
00:15:08
Speaker
there's literally almost every special round is available in every single gun.
00:15:18
Speaker
Yes and no. I would like it to be, oh, you want fire ammo that limits your guns to these and I don't have to worry about getting, you know, lit on fire with the sparks and then I die right away because of the first burn.
00:15:37
Speaker
That being said, with all these solos, I am bringing more fire ammo so I don't have to burn you as much with my flares. I can burn your bars while we're fighting. Yeah. Yeah. That, that used to be the thing was if I wanted fire ammo, there was only a handful of guns I could pick from. Now it's like, I need fire ammo. Okay. Just go to your fucking tab. You probably have it. Yeah.
00:16:06
Speaker
No, when special ammo is not special anymore, that's that, that is my, I don't, I don't think special ammo is as special as it was. I can agree with you. It's not as special that everything can take everything. You know, there's no more safe cover because everything has full metal jacket and can shoot through anything. Um,
00:16:31
Speaker
But at the same time, I do enjoy burning these solos. It makes me happy. Well, that being said, the special ammo being on everything... I mean, I'm not against special ammo. I liked that everything had special ammo. I liked that everything had...
00:16:52
Speaker
unique, unique special ammo. Like certain guns didn't get, didn't get poisoned. Certain guns didn't have a fire round. But then again, there's also stuff where I'm like, why have we never got flaming arrows? Not, not the flaming dart. Why have we never got a flaming arrow for the bow and arrow? Okay. Why have we never gotten more trick bolts for the crossbow? What trick bolts would you,
00:17:20
Speaker
I don't, I don't know, but like at the moment we have the same, we have at least five different kinds of custom ammo for every gun. The crossbow has had the same three arrows and the bow and arrow has had, uh, I mean, pretty much since its inception, we got poison and Constantina the following event.
00:17:45
Speaker
Like the bow was released, um, the native, the, the light, light, the darkness was at the one, the native American one, the one where we first got the native American characters. Yeah, I think so. So we got that one. And then the very next one we got poison and constant Tina. And that's been it for the bow and arrow bow and arrows had three arrow types. Crossbows had three types. The hand crossbows gotten more action than both of them.
00:18:16
Speaker
Okay. And crossbow has been updated like a son of a bitch. All right. So what would you add to the bow and arrow? Like a fire one where instead of stopping the bleed, you got to pull it out. Okay. Um, you could have a fire one. You could have a hive arrow where maybe it releases a small, like a small wave of bees, like very, like not, not enough, basically a bomb arrow, but poison.
00:18:46
Speaker
You shoot it, it hits the ground, that arrow's burned, the bees come out and poison the person. Okay. So like half the bees. So it's still, I wouldn't even say half. I'd say a quarter of the bees, just enough to get them poisoned. And then if you, if you want to spam your four arrows, spam away. But like there's stuff in the game that we, I feel like.
Innovative Ideas for Hunt Showdown
00:19:11
Speaker
It's easier for them. I can't believe this episode's going this long just on fucking Hayden Christensen and me talking about bees attached to sticky shit at the end of arrows. Well, you do love the bees. Well, I mean, you could do like a noise, like a, um, something where if you take blank, like decoys and you can put them on the post so you can shoot it out and make a noise attached to the end of an arrow.
00:19:37
Speaker
I don't necessarily want a chaos bomb, but just like one or two shots over there instead of right next to me. Yeah. Nothing would have a full effect, but like I could totally see it where you, you knock that arrow into the bow, the little spikes shoot out of the end. Like they do on a chaos bomb. You could stick that thing to a wall, shoot that thing, let it stick to a wall. You hear.
00:20:07
Speaker
You're a little fucking pop, pop. I don't have a gunshot on the soundboard, but you hear a little pop pop and that's your decoy. You can have a decoy arrow. Yeah. Okay. I'm down for a few more, a few more different arrows, do an arrow event where you get crossbow, hand bow and bow and arrow some love. I, I, I think like I'm,
00:20:31
Speaker
I'm very, I'm, I always try and stay positive on the show. Like I don't like talking too much about shit that I don't like because I know there's other shows I listen to, whether it's wrestling, tabletop RPGs, um, whatever. And eventually somebody will turn to the negative and it just, it brings me down. Cause I don't like listening to shows where people bitch about shit they don't like. And it's not that I don't like it. I just feel like it's a missed opportunity.
00:20:59
Speaker
that they've just been like, they're putting out so much good shit between character models. I think the Santa Santa looks fucking dope. Yeah. They, this, this event, I think has had the most. Yeah. The third, the third while I don't give a shit guy looks dope. Yeah. The fucking other captain guy that looks like you that has the fucking American flag wrapped around his waist. Fucking dope.
00:21:27
Speaker
Yeah, I think all the character models have been great. This event. Yeah. But I'm coming out with good stuff. But yeah, you know, we'd like all we'd also like a little love over here. Like for the hang just bow. Yeah. Instead of doing a shock bolt, you can just do like a just a full metal jacket bullet through a wall. Let me let me know. I mean, yeah, you you could give me a shotgun.
00:21:54
Speaker
You could give me a shot bolt, but since it's in the hand crossbow cut down the damage, cut the damage in half. I have no problem with a trick arrow or, um, I'm saying trick errors. Like I'm fucking Hawkeye over here. I have no problem with like, like a unique special ammo arrow or something unique for the hand crossbow or crossbow for that matter. Not everything has to be a one shot kill.
00:22:22
Speaker
Yeah. You could give me, you could give me something for the hand crossbow that is like a shop. Hell don't even make it a shuffle. Put a fucking flechette round on the end of a, of a hand crossbow thing and have it do bleed damage. Yeah.
00:22:37
Speaker
Like there's, instead of transfer, like, I mean, Christ, I love the Winnie. I love that the Winnie now has every fucking special ammo that the, the, the Winnie, um, the centennial, like they all have the same stuff, which is great. I love that. I don't have to think if I need high velocity or poison or whatever, but at the same time, I'm like, you've got, you've got the tools in place. Get creative.
00:23:04
Speaker
Yeah, you could do an arrow that gives you, uh, you know, a 20 meter dark site from wherever it lands or a 10 meter dark site, you know, shoot it on a wall. Let me see on the other side of the wall. And it's, you know, yeah. Or on that note, maybe don't give us dark site. Let it pair with a beetle. You shoot that arrow. It gives out sonar that you can use the beetle to see fucking some kind of dark site.
00:23:32
Speaker
Yeah, that'd be cool. So that way it requires either you're taking either you're going to set yourself up and it's going to take you a minute to get that plan going. You're going to have to look, you're going to have to have that loaded, shoot it, switch to your beetle, fly your beetle. Like if you're playing as a solo, this is a plan that once you start, you cannot deviate or it requires you to work as a fucking team.
00:23:56
Speaker
Guy A shoots the dark. Guy B throws the fucking bug. Guy C's covering them both since they're already doing the fucking seek and destroy mission. Yeah. And the beetle doesn't need to be able to blow up. It just, you know, if it dies, it dies. Yeah. Even if it does blow up, it just be some, and it would be something unique for the beetle. It would be an addition for the beat. It will give you a reason to take the fucking beetle. Besides, I'm just going to have this thing blow up in your face. Yeah.
00:24:27
Speaker
like it could and it doesn't have to be anything weird. I'm not talking space age steampunk bullshit shoot the thing into the tree. I like the idea of it being like a chaos bomb with the barbs where it'll stick to stuff.
00:24:40
Speaker
make it like Dune. Now Dune has the thumpers and all they are is just the thing that beats into another thing and goes boom, boom, boom, boom. It could be something like that. It could be something that just clicks. Like it just, or a whistle. It just spins a whistle around on a chain. Like it could be anything. Yep. I, um, damn it. I didn't want to get negative. I feel like I got negative.
00:25:06
Speaker
No, we're not negative. We're throwing ideas out for what would take for the people, for the people that are listening that have no effect on, on, on this game. Um, bottom bottom line, uh, we don't have a segment four anymore. So I'll just say, uh, wrap wrapping up final thoughts. Um, I don't have a problem with special ammo being everywhere, but I do feel like just,
00:25:34
Speaker
New event, we're putting, we're moving special. It's like moving your bet around a roulette table. Like you're not either, either seal the deal and make the bet. That's going to win you the cash or get the fuck away. And it's the same thing with, well, we're going to have a new event. We're going to put two new character models out and we're just going to take custom ammo from the crag and make it accessible also to the Bertier.
00:26:00
Speaker
No, get a little fucking, put your heads together and think of something fun. Like that's all I'm saying. There's, there's money on, you're leaving money on the table. Yep. You know, not, not being negative, not nothing. Just, Hey, throw a little love this way too. We love what you're doing over here. Do it over here too. Little Dutch door action. You do us while we reach around and do you. Yeah. Um,
00:26:28
Speaker
Yeah. Do you have, uh, do you have anything you want to say on the way out? Uh, yeah. Burn the bodies. It's probably a solo. I'm going to say that every time we do about this event, because everybody's a solo. Don't forget to burn your bodies. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're cold outside. Let them in. Let them in. They're cold too. Burn them. Yeah. Um, I'll also say, uh, I got another message from the old rack three to nine.
00:26:59
Speaker
Uh, he's been fucking plugging this controller for a million years. It's the dark Walker shop pad. I'll send you a link. Uh, it's basically like the left side is a stick in a deep head. The right side is a fucking touch pad. What the fuck? Like a mouse. Yeah. It's got triggers on the back. What's that kind of, I'm looking at it right now. Kind of weird ass shit is this. Yeah. Uh, he's been, uh, as far as I know, he hasn't fucked with it yet.
00:27:29
Speaker
But he's under the impression that maybe that'll kind of bridge the gap a little bit between PC and console. I don't know if that'll happen. I think if we ever get cross play, it'll be a real unique situation, considering apparently console players have a much different play style than PC. From what I heard the last event, everybody on PC went cyclone immediately.
00:27:55
Speaker
Meanwhile, we're on, we're on a console fucking just beating each other to death with a bat. Yes. That sounds about right. PC like to shoot console. I'm a ninja. Let me, let me stab everybody. PC is clearly a superior, smarter group of people and console. We're just like, I'll beat you with stick. Yeah. Big, big stick make big hurt. Yeah. My stick bigger hurt more.
00:28:25
Speaker
I believe it But um Yeah, if you got nothing to add I'll go through our legendary hunters when you get the fuck out of here. Let's do it I'd like to thank our legendary hunters. These are people that interact with us on Instagram that's a nitro Nate the ponytail palm Mike Malcolm Anderson almost called you Michael never would Malcolm don't don't fucking believe it Malcolm Anderson manner von veld og gamer rat 329
00:28:55
Speaker
Mitchell Gert. Um, guys, we're closing there on 30 minutes and, uh, this is a brand new year road to six stars. Hashtag six stars. Come find us on Instagram. Harrison, do you have anything to add on our way out the door? No, not tonight.
00:29:14
Speaker
Okay, uh, light them bodies. May the heat of the bodies keep you warm. You're living a three star life. God damn it. I hope you have a six star week. I'll catch you next time.