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episode 37 back in the saddle again...again
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the guys try and remember how this show works. john cat dunks on ff10 and the boys talk about hopes and dreams regarding the "upcoming" engine upgrade.
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Transcript
Introduction and Host Banter
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Speaker
Let's go. Cry about that, you dirty old bitch. All right, we are back. We are back, baby. It's another episode of the show we all know and love, waiting for other players, a Hunt Showdown podcast. This is your host, John Keck, coming at you live, once again, from the Cat House.
00:00:30
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And yeah, we're not gonna tiptoe and we're not gonna screw around. We're gonna launch into this thing. Yeah, hold on. Can I get a large Americano? No whip? All right, fuck that up.
Guest Introduction: Harrison the Clutch Commander
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The Duke of Devastation.
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The round mound of rebound. The one man Kung Fu SWAT team. When you're in trouble, you call this JEW. Harrison, the clutch commander himself. Harrison, how are you doing this evening? I'm doing good, how are you? I'm all right. It's good to be here. Yeah, good to be back. It's been a month. Yeah.
00:01:25
Speaker
It's been a long month. Want to thank the guys over there at, uh, hunt banish extract. If you're not listening to them, what the fuck are you doing with your life? Uh, they're pretty solid group of guys. Uh, we appreciate you. They appreciate you. If you came here from them.
Community Acknowledgments and Podcast Return
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I'm sorry. We cuss so much and I'm sorry. It took us so long to get a fresh episode out. Yeah. Uh, it was really great to be on there and, uh, some interesting guys.
00:01:54
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It's putting it mildly. They're good, they're good. We kid, but they're all good. The bard, bard rat, like the whole gang, the whole gang's fucking, they know their hunt in and out, the whole crew. But we're, we've been gone for a month, so we're not just gonna blow them, we're gonna.
Harrison's Final Fantasy Insights
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I'm your huckleberry. Just my gang.
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Harrison, what have you been getting up to since we last talked? I've started playing Final Fantasy VIII. Why? It is... It's one of my favorite Final Fantasies that I've never beaten. I enjoy VIII a lot. I'm not mad at it. Like, the more I play it, the more I'm like, did I just watch a whole school of children kill another school of children?
00:02:52
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Yes, but at the same time I also get like I can't I'm gonna go on record right now can't stand ten Tidus and I have to kill my dad blitz ball can suck both my nuts but like Seven was even kind of here and there for me, but like eight and eight and nine. I really liked Yeah, I've never played nine but
00:03:20
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is one that I have played a lot and never beat so this time I'm going through with the plans of beating it and I Just got through disc one and am just starting disc two. Are you playing it on original hardware? No, well, I don't know why you're measuring it in discs. Does it tell you that when you're playing it on? Steam or whatever the fuck you're playing it on when you're playing it on
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I'm playing it on the Nintendo Switch. And no, it doesn't tell you that other than the save points are kind of, you get a random save point and you're like, Oh, new disc. Also, if you're looking up a guide, it's kind of measures it in that capacity. Okay. I also have it. I think I also have it on switch. I may, I think I do have it on switch.
00:04:17
Speaker
I wasn't sure I knew I had it. I just didn't know what I had it on. And it was switch. Do you have any difficulty with the gun blade hitting like shooting the bullet off for your critical thing? No, I could not. To this day, I'm 38 years old. Cannot fucking make that thing happen. And it takes me a little bit because thankfully they have
00:04:46
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Uh, times, uh, speed multiplier on there. So it speeds the game up. And let me tell you without that, dear God, it's unplayable. It's not unplayable, but it is far longer than it needs to. Cause there's a lot of parts in the game where you have to stand around a certain amount of time until something happens. But it also helps with like overworld traversal, but it bites you in the ass because you're sped up.
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So that just means you're walking faster and the encounters you're walking into happen?
Final Fantasy Movie Discussion
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Like- More frequent, yes. It seems more frequent, because you're moving at twice the fucking speed. Yes. But it makes the game much more playable.
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Yeah, I always I always always liked it. I thought it was I thought it was it was neat I mean I I wasn't a big seven guy like when the movie when um Remember when they made that fucking movie in the 2000s the spirits in and everybody was like pissed because they expected it to just be the cloud and Tifa movie yes, and then like I haven't gone back and revisited it bit like I
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I remember not being terribly mad addicts. I didn't have a lot of final fantasy. Like I didn't have a lot of like brain like real estate tied up in final fantasy. I'd only really played like the fucking first disc of seven and I played a little bit of eight and the fact that eight was totally different from seven. And then the movie was totally different from eight and seven. I was like, I don't know why everybody's getting fucking upset.
Divergent Gameplay in Final Fantasy XV
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Yeah, I don't know. I enjoyed, um,
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Not the movie, but eight. Yeah. The movie wasn't bad, but it was just was it also different. And it also wasn't really final fantasy. There was no magic. It was all fucking guns and space shit. But you can do that with final fantasy. You can make something different. Oh, yeah. I just, you know, I'm upset where, you know, everyone feels it has to be the same thing every time. Yeah. Or they all like
00:06:56
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I thought I really like 15. Uh, 15 was the boy band on the road trip. Oh, yeah, I enjoyed them. And I thought it was different. Like it's not turn based. You have your, your squad of dudes that they all work. Like you can tie your attacks together. I liked that. It was like, it was kind of open world, but you're also kind of on the, like.
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It was different enough that I was like, if they do more like this, I'd really like to see where Final Fantasy goes. And then like 16. Is it's like. I haven't played it, but it just looks like like Dragon's Dogma on Rails like it looks like Dragon's Dogma meets. Devil May Cry. A lot of people compared
Memorable Hunt Showdown Moments
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to Devil May Cry because of the combat.
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Which I get, but… But you had that in 15 and it was fucking great. But yeah, Final Fantasy… I don't know. I could take it or leave it. As far as RPG goes, there's not a lot of other options. Yeah. I mean, unless you go, like, indie.
00:08:13
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If you're playing it on the switch, like there is like triangle strategy and shit like that. But as far as like a good old school, like if you want final fantasy, that's the only thing that'll really quench that thirst is some final fantasy. Yeah. There was another one, um, that was on the game boy that I really liked to, uh, golden son, golden son, golden son is on the classic console. It's on the, um, game. I saw that it came up.
00:08:42
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And I, I liked it. I felt it, you know, I kind of like games that try to do something different and succeed. I wasn't a 10 fan, though. I just didn't do it for me. I just didn't like they were like, dude, they talk. And I remember sitting at my buddy's house and it was like it was before I like.
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I smoke a little bit of weed now that I'm older because I just don't give a shit anymore. But when I was younger, I was always like, I wanted to find a decent job. So I never partook in a lot of like, you're supposed to do shit when you're younger that you regret later. I never did anything when I was younger. But I remember my buddy would be stoned out of his gourd and he would be like, dude, on a fantasy 10, they talk. And I'd be like freaking out like, no way, how does that work? And then I watched it. And the minute the tightest is just like,
00:09:39
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like laughing. I'm like, I'm like, Jesus Christ. This is your selling point. I mean, you can just take me outside and kick me in the nuts and we could be done. Like this is horrible. Yeah. Uh, it wasn't a bad story. It wasn't. I thought the story was also dog shit. I, it, uh, 10, 10 is literally like,
00:10:03
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That's, that's my hill I'll die on. When somebody gets all fucking uppity about how 10 is great, I'm just like, you take this shit right out the door you came in. Really? I do not like 10 at all. But this isn't a Final Fantasy podcast, so I think we do have to hit this guy. How are you not dead? I have no idea! Well, it's been a month. We have an event under our belt.
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I've dropped, I've gone up two stars. I've dropped two stars. I'm currently a two star. You've played a little on PC. Do you have any gameplay you want to go over? Um, there's been, yes. Uh, the one I really enjoyed was when we were at, I believe it was upper to sell and, um, we had,
00:11:01
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Killed the boss the team in the boss naturally boss naturally and they were two teams Still alive, but they were both playing ranged with us and we got tired of it charged the solo and We downed him and then as we're finishing him off the other team comes and
00:11:31
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You both go down. Naturally, naturally. And I proceed to take my Romero and shoot at them and then run behind the hill. And as they come around the corner, I shoot them again and kill them. And I enjoyed that very much. I mean, those are the games just make you smile when you're the last man standing and you can get that kill with a Romero. Yeah, it's I mean, it's the stuff dreams are made of.
00:12:01
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It really does it, especially when you get them with the, Oh no, I'm out of ammo. And then they come around the corner to a shotgun. Yeah, we, we had a similar one. Maybe not last night. It might've been the other day, but we, um, we were tracking a team that just kept leaving a trail. It was like bodies, zombies and birds, zombies, birds, dogs. It was like we, we were just two steps behind them.
00:12:28
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And they ended up taking shelter in the fort. So it was. For Bolden, is that the one in the middle that the map with the ironworks? So like we could see them, they're up on that that lip, that second lip.
00:12:48
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And they're shooting at us. So we're like, get off the sniper tower. We have no business being up here. We need to just go over there and sort this out from like a better angle. Cause we're from where we were, we were just getting lit up.
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We climb down and literally from like where the trenches are, because it's
Wishlist for Hunt Showdown Updates
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like, it's the fucking outer trench of the fort, a waterway. And then there's a little land mat, like a little land archipelago. And it's got like world war one trenches dug through the.
00:13:22
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through the archipelago and this guy comes sprinting out of there brandishing a katana and I shoot with my sparks and I whiff the shot so he didn't know I had a saber and me and this guy just get into it katana v saber I couldn't have been more happy when I shut his shit down
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Yeah. Like he went down, I'm screaming. My wife's like, did you just say that you had a scazord? And I was like, yes, yes I did. The guy did not know I had a scazord. And then we all proceeded to charge to try and get, we wanted to get into the fort to at least get into like the tunnel system that runs into the wall or like get on the inside. Like we wanted to get cover and without fail, this guy was fucking John Elway.
00:14:12
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Uh, or Lamar Jackson for our younger fans. John, John Elway was a quarterback from back in the day. Uh, he just, he was in the day quarterback, but it's like he chucks a single stick of dynamite and I could hear it hissing in the air and I was like, all right, I take off running. And I guess he just knew the course that I was like, I was running a button hook cause that single stick of dynamite went off right on top of me.
00:14:39
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And, uh, it was, it was a shitty game. It was a shitty way to die, but like leading up to it, I was like, we track this guy, like fucking command cheese. Yeah. We have a few games where we're really good at tracking people, but, uh, it doesn't always end well for us.
00:14:58
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We'll go over that in another episode, because I feel like I've kind of nailed down some of our shortcomings, or at least my shortcomings when I think about why my MMR is so fucked. But we'll go over that in another episode. That's because we like picking you up. 50-50. I'll agree with that to an extent. But we'll hit the sound bite that we all love.
00:15:32
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All right. Welcome to the show. Uh, the main topic of this evening, uh, it was put in our big topic, uh, suggestion box by clutch. And it is, uh, regarding the engine update that is soon to come. What is our wish list? Like, well, we hope that this engine update changes or adds to the game, changes the gameplay UI. Like what do you, like, uh, like what do you got cooking around in your dome? So I'm.
00:16:02
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hoping we can get a more variable time of days. I hope they're more evenly spread, I should say. You mean like the odds of us getting a morning or like we're less likely to get like four night maps in a row? Yes. Yeah, I could agree with it. Because, you know, the first few you're fine with, but
00:16:32
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after the third, you're like, come on, a little bit. Give me, give me a chance at something else. Yeah. After, after like your fourth night map, speaking of night map after your fourth night map, you, um, you kind of start questioning like, what are you doing with your life? Because it seems like everybody can see you perfectly, but you're just staring into the abyss, waiting to see somebody's muzzle flash.
00:16:59
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unless they're wearing like the fucking death, uh, the death skin. And you just see that white glow of their face. Um, I think as far as the engine update goes, uh, for me, when it happens, the wish thing that I'm wishing for is, um, I would like, uh, I think with the new biome, I would like a new method of, um, extract.
00:17:27
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Like, like not necessarily something different than the carriage or the boat, but like, um, I mean, and they really don't have to crib off of hell divers, but like hell divers, you can get to the extraction all you want, but there's certain things you have to do to make the extraction start. Like you have to hit and put the code or you have to get the, um, you have to call down your shit. Like there's certain things you have to do. So like.
00:17:54
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If we get a new map and maybe there is a boat extract, perhaps we have to lift like, like you have to put the boat in the water or something. Cut, cut, cut the ropes that have it tied to the dock. Uh, light fire, like, like shoot fire into the boiler to get the engine running. If there's horses, like.
00:18:18
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Like I'd like something that that for right now when you extract there's 30 seconds at that extraction that your buttholes clinched and I think they could double down on that kind of intensity if there's another If there is a like if you're the last team There shouldn't really be an issue. It should just be you're the old you're the ultimate ombre 30 seconds you're done
00:18:42
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but like if you're trying to duck out with that bounty and you get to the boat and it's like you need to fucking take three lanterns or whatever to try and get this fire running to keep the fire like maybe it's to keep the fire running for 30 seconds or like if it's the horses maybe it's maybe that's just a literal just defense
00:19:04
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Like you have to keep the horses safe for 30 seconds or something. But like people can shoot the horses to reset the timer or something. Not kill the horses, but I like the idea that like just add one more little pip of I need to get out of here and these few obstacles are standing in my way.
00:19:28
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Like I wouldn't be against that. I think that would be neat. Like, don't don't overhaul the whole thing. But if you throw one wrinkle in there. I think that could be fun. Yeah, I think something like that would be fun. It would change it up. Something where it gives someone where, you know, I don't have to get so far from you. I just have to, you know, stop you from cutting the road. I have to do something. If it is something like that, that would prompt more teams to split up.
Innovative Gameplay Suggestions for Hunt Showdown
00:19:58
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We mean you would be playing and it would be, you know, you, you and machete, you guys grab the bounties. Like you wait the time for the bounties to pop. I'm going to take off running for the extract to get the boat running. And then that would either prompt like any, any number of things. People are much better players than I am, but I'm just thinking like, I think,
00:20:26
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Yeah, I don't know. It's just something that's been floating around in my head. It would add, you know, just something extra to do. Yeah. Or make it. I saw somebody say something about a train. Yeah. Make it a train extract. Just something different. Yeah. Is there any weapons that you'd like to see coming with any kind of update? Would you like to change anything with the weapons in the update? I would like special ammo to be a little more special.
00:20:56
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where not every gun has the exact same five special ammo things. Or would it be easier just to be like. More more weapons have. A unique ammo type for that weapon, like maybe maybe against that, maybe the marathon has something. Maybe not.
00:21:24
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Not every shotgun needs slugs, not every shotgun needs a penny shot. Yeah, but maybe you could give a shotgun a. I don't know if they had rubber balls or not lethal rounds, but like you could give a shotgun like a beanbag or a sandbag or something like that. You could use that for.
00:21:48
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Killing emulators it could be used for any number of things it could be used to Where it's basically like a silencer because it does not a silencer, but like Whereas a slug if you take a direct hit you're getting well it also goes back to my my thoughts about the bat where I'm almond a lot because I
00:22:15
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You really fucking threw me for a loop with the special ammo thing, but like, I mean, I've talked about it before. I know. I haven't thought about it. Um, but I think, uh, we had mentioned with the bat that I was like, if it's a one hit kill to one hit kill, but why not give it like a status effect? Like the way your vision goes blurry when you get like super fucking poisoned.
00:22:41
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Like, make it like a dazed thing where if you take- give it like 149 damage, like the sparks, to where if you take one to the dome, you're dead, but if you take one to the body, you can still probably limp away. Give them like this weird dazed thing where their vision gets fucked to simulate that you just got hit with a fucking bat and then turn that into another status along with like blinded and poisoned to where it affects your gameplay.
00:23:11
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You could have an ammo type that does that. You could give the shotgun a non-lethal round that prompts like this dizziness or whatever, this weird poison vision where your vision is kind of fucked and you could use it for us. It could be like a support round. You could start prompting players for support. Yeah, I wouldn't be against that. I mean, something to change it up a little bit.
00:23:37
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Yeah. I mean, right now I get more kill assists than I do kills. So if I'm in there with a slate and I just lay two. Two non-lethal rounds into two guys and they can't see what they're doing. And then you and machete come up behind him and ice them out. Like, I think that's good team play. Yeah. Or if we're running by an emulator fucking knock that thing in the face with a non-lethal round, it's not being punctured. So the emulator goes down. Yeah.
00:24:06
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The emulator would go down. I don't know. It's probably not a bad idea, but I'm just thinking of stuff that's we don't have currently.
Discussion on Skins and Game Updates
00:24:15
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Yeah, yeah, you just want something different every now and then. I'd like more warm, maybe not melee, but I like the bow and arrow. So like maybe a spear. Like something that you could use for a melee, but also throw.
00:24:37
Speaker
Okay. Like not the bomb lands. Like I'm talking like straight up Comanche. Yeah. Like something where it's, um, you'd get like three of them and you can talk them, but you got to go pick them up. Exactly. But it gives you like, it gives you damage almost like, um, like a, uh, pitchfork. Like, I think that could be cool. I mean, that's a sphere would definitely be cool. They can do tons of skins with it too. Yeah.
00:25:06
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I think they'd be pretty rad. Um, I don't feel like we're at a pretty sweet spot with, with the skin game currently, but we have kind of stalled out on like skins for, we haven't got a, well, we got a fresh skin for the ax in the last event, but like cavalry saber, we haven't really got a fresh skin in a hot minute. Um, the bat we have,
00:25:31
Speaker
We have the one from the event and the crazy fucking hermit stick, but I would kind of like for their DLC and blood bond system to kind of get not revamped, but I just like fresh life to be pulled into this motherfucker. Like give me some fresh skins, man. Yeah. I like looking fancy. I do like a fancy, a fancy skin. Um,
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Do you have do you have anything else that you're wishing for? Wishing hoping and praying? Other than what we've talked about, a better divide on the special maps and the ammo types. Not not really. That's really what I would like. And I feel I would enjoy the game a lot more. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, I guess in closing, like.
00:26:32
Speaker
Um, I have, I left it as a comment when a cry tech had on Instagram there. Uh, they usually do a survey at the end of every event and they were asking for thoughts. And I was like, I was like, I had a, I had a blast with this last event. Every, every day we played, even though I was losing, I had a great time. I thought the drops were
Reflections and Community Engagement
00:26:55
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great. I thought the skins were great. I love the Statesman fucking drip daddy.
00:27:01
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I love the marathon. I love the Marco. I was like, I thought it was great. As far as the engine upgrade, it looks like it's going to be mainly like a graphical thing and certain things on the server end. So I don't really know what to expect as far as gameplay. I know we're getting a new bot, a new map allegedly, but I guess in the long run, I just, I would like them to keep the game fresh. Like.
00:27:30
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like just implement small changes that keep the game the same, but keep it, keep, keep little things changing to keep it fresh. Okay. That's, that's a good wish. I mean, it's at the end of the day, we're all here because we like playing hunt. I don't want to have like, there's plenty of games that are like, we have an update and then you walk in and like the update comes and the whole fucking game, the fan base is just like, I'm out.
00:27:59
Speaker
This is dog shit. What have you done? And I do like on their events and everything. They just kind of like, what would be a cool power for us to give people and they give it to you temporarily. Yeah.
00:28:16
Speaker
It's like a little Christmas gift and then you look forward to it at the next event when you're like God I've like this last one. There was no mariner. I felt fucking lost because we had gotten mariner two events in a row
00:28:31
Speaker
And Mariner was like my bread and butter. And then this one rolls around. Yeah, it's a good it's great. And then this one rolls around and everybody's taken Peacekeeper. Right. You you took Peacekeeper a fair amount. Yes. It turns out I took fucking the melee one. A lot. Well, you are our go to punch things in the face guy.
00:28:59
Speaker
Yeah, but like I've we've been playing this game since 2020. Every event I've never taken the melee trade. And now I think I'm going to start taking it more fucking frequently when they do have it in the event. Because I was taking bats. I took the fucking hammer in one map and I was just swinging at anything. Swinging like a lumberjack. Oh, yeah. But we're getting a little long in the tooth. We're at 30 minutes. It's been a month.
00:29:30
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Harrison say good night. I'm gonna say good night to our friends. Good night, everybody. I want to thank our legendary hunters. Uh, we're talking about Malcolm Anderson. We're talking about man or van Velt. We're talking about Nitro Nate. We're talking about the hunter couple. We're talking about rat three to nine. We're talking about the boys over at hunt banish extract. We're talking about the guys at hunt lowdown. Um,
Conclusion and Community Shoutouts
00:29:54
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communities growing leaps and bounds constantly. Uh, want to thank everybody for coming out.
00:30:01
Speaker
Uh, maybe, uh, are we still beefing about the solos? Are we still keeping that in there? No, it's, it's died down a little bit. We'll give them a break and, you know, when they act up, we'll light a match and let them know, you know, let them know what's going on. Sit next to the fire this summer with your favorite solos, share a hot dog, embrace an Americana.
00:30:25
Speaker
And remember, you may be living a three-star life, but god damn it, I hope you have a six-star week. This is JonKat, that's Clutch. And, uh, we're gonna try and get this ball rolling again, guys. We're happy to be back. I'm the best, the best looking, nobody stands a chance against me, and people fucking love me. That's the VIP bottom line.
00:30:58
Speaker
awesome. Well, bye.