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Buffalo Stampede, Aussie Champs Recap, UTMB pregnancy policy ft. Sarah Ludowici | Episode 103

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This week on Peak Pursuits, Brodie Nankervis and Jess Jason are joined by Sarah Ludowici, fresh off 2nd place and first Aussie at the Buffalo Stampede 100km, which also doubled as the Australian Long Course Trail Champs.

Sarah takes us through her race day, from training in the lead up to how it all played out on course. We chat through the highs, the tough moments, and how she handled the mental side of a 100k effort.

We also dive into UTMB’s updated pregnancy policy. It now extends beyond pregnancy to include IVF, surrogacy and adoption, offering more flexibility for athletes. As the only parent on the show, Sarah shares her thoughts on what this means.

We recap Buffalo Stampede, including the APTRC spots. Ben Leeson and Gerald McPherson secured the men’s tickets, while Alice McGushin and Nicole Paton took the women’s. Jess also gives a quick recap of her 20km race, and we highlight big runs from Jo Hepton, James Barnett and George Knight.

Down in Tas, the Kunanyi Mountain Run doubled as the Australian Mountain Running Champs and delivered huge performances. Meg set a new course record in the 25km, while Piotr and Sophie both broke records in the 42km. Kaitlin Rennie and Toby Lang won the open titles, with Liana Stubbs and Elijah Gosby taking out the U20s.

We also cover results from Xterra Asia-Pacific Champs, Perth Trail Summer Series and the Lithgow Ridgy-Didge Trail Festival.

This week’s shoe review is the ASICS Trabuco 14, which Sarah raced in at Buffalo. We chat through how it held up over 100km.

To finish, we look ahead to what’s coming up including Sydney Trail Half Marathon, Falls Creek and Beechworth, and Brodie gives a quick update before heading to the Orienteering Australian Champs.

A big episode with race insights, honest chat and all the latest from the Aussie trail scene.

Results:

Buffalo Stampede (VIC)

Kunanyi Mountain Run (TAS)

Xterra Dunsborough (WA)

Perth Trail Summer Series: Stay Puft (WA)

Lithgow Ridgy-Didge Trail Run Festival (NSW)

The Great Volcanic Mountain Challenge (NSW)

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Transcript

Introduction and Episode Welcome

00:00:08
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode 103 of the Peak for Shoots podcast. My name is Brodie, one of your regular hosts, and today joined by Jess Jason, who's racing up at Buffalo Stampede

Guest Introduction and Autumn Love

00:00:20
Speaker
over the weekend. How are you going, Jess? Hey guys, I'm going good. feel like it's my favorite time of year, autumn. Everything's just sunny and still and crisp. It's pretty beautiful.
00:00:31
Speaker
Yeah, fantastic. And it was ah it was a beautiful weekend up in Bright and we are lucky to be joined by someone else who was there.

Sarah's Regular Appearances

00:00:38
Speaker
um The second place in the 100K and first Australian, ah Sarah Ladoichi. How are you going, Sarah? Good to have you back.
00:00:48
Speaker
Good. Good to be back. Thanks for having me on again. I feel like I've... been on the podcast a lot recently. So um yeah, thanks for listening, everyone. You're just a fan favorite. Yeah, yeah.
00:01:00
Speaker
was starting to think that we can't have her on too many more times. Otherwise, we're going to have to give her sort of rights to be part of the podcast.

Post-Pregnancy Training Challenges

00:01:07
Speaker
yeah um Sarah, thanks so much for jumping on. We thought it was a perfect episode for you to jump on because you had an incredible run over the weekend. um And there's a few bits of news that that pop up that have been relevant to you as well. So it's great to have you here. I was thinking, look, we've heard, we know, think the listeners know a lot about you and we've heard about what's been happening over the past few months. And I think we last heard from you on maybe a full episode for Roller Coaster and then we heard from you couple of months ago as well.
00:01:43
Speaker
um in In regards to training for this hundred k race, um We may not have touched on on lots of those things, but how how did the training for the hundred k go given that this is sort of your your biggest race back after having baby Aurora what what what did that look like and and did you feel like you were ready when you stood on the start line on

Balancing Family and Training

00:02:07
Speaker
on Saturday? Yeah I think um like with everything it was a bit like up and down some days felt really good some days felt um like just a an utter slog um but
00:02:20
Speaker
I don't know. i I definitely felt like going in, i probably am the fittest I've been in probably, yeah, four or five years. Like when I think about my time in Broome, um like, yeah, I think, yeah, I just, by the time I finished leaving Broome, my fitness, just all my capacity to run up hills and things like that, just because of what was available had sort of, I guess, decreased a little bit. So i think moving to Canberra has been really helpful and just ah get, you know, what became normal runs like uphill and things really helped condition my body well for this event. And so, yeah, i definitely felt really good about that and felt, yeah, really fit going in I definitely had, I think in the week,
00:03:08
Speaker
like kind of the two weeks before, like periods of like just feeling really fatigued. I thought my iron might be low, but it wasn't. So I was like, okay, I guess I'm just fatigued. um But, and yeah, it definitely had a few long runs that were just utter slogs. ah But I suppose, you know, you look at all of those those times and they help build you up for the day, whether it just be mentally, like you know that you can you can just keep going even though it doesn't necessarily feel amazing but then um
00:03:41
Speaker
Yeah. And I always remind myself, like, I'm not meant to feel fresh. Like now I'm meant to feel fresh on race day. So, um that always just helps me feel calm leading

Importance of Long Runs

00:03:50
Speaker
into the day. So yeah, overall felt pretty good. Main changes, I suppose, um, were leading in with having Aurora was just having to be a bit more flexible. Some sessions I had to, you know, cut short just to get back in time or, um,
00:04:08
Speaker
Yeah, but I was able with the support of my husband to be able to get out for most of my long runs on the weekend. And and I sort of just made sure the kind of six weeks or a month prior to the race, and I'm like, these are like my key long run sessions. I just need to make sure that like,
00:04:24
Speaker
we're not going away those weekends and me trying to fit it in around everything else um because I definitely know when that happens, it's a lot harder to get the runs in um and make them

Motherhood, Fitness, and Community Support

00:04:34
Speaker
a priority. So just sort of prioritised the four to six weeks leading in to make sure that everything um got done. So, yeah.
00:04:43
Speaker
Fantastic. And we were hearing from Jess that you were you were really fit because she'd been out on a few runs with you and we're hearing that the long runs were going well. I can imagine, like you said, juggling that with with um having Aurora and with the long runs trying to fit

Training Strategies and Mental Preparation

00:04:59
Speaker
that in. What was the what was the biggest long run you able to sort of get in before the race?
00:05:04
Speaker
um I think I was meant to do like ah just the four hour 15 long run, but I think that day I really battled. So I think I ended up just doing four hours. um so yeah, I kind of, I don't know about you guys, but sometimes when you go for a run, but you finish like back at your car and you're like, oh, I could do an out and back, but I was just like, nah, that was a solid day. I'm i'm happy with that. So I'm going to finish there.
00:05:33
Speaker
I think that's like the difference to like getting to the race, feeling like good rather than like overcooked because like if you're calling it when you need to call it, like that's, I think that's like really smart and it like allows you, like you've still got the work in, like that 15 minutes isn't going to change your fitness, but like you're just not overdoing it.
00:05:56
Speaker
Yeah. And yeah, we did that run out at Flea Creek and um like ah it was really interesting just to see how much of how much that fatigued me. Like I think it took me like the better part of um the week to get back. Like I wasn't till maybe the Saturday that I actually felt like I could run um without it being like an utter slog. So yeah it's good to see that. oh And obviously there's a role for that in your journey.

Community Support and Mental Hurdles

00:06:25
Speaker
you know, your program program for and leading into an event like that. But I definitely think it was it was good for me to see and experience how like, yeah, peaks and troughs, you know, week every week, but over like, you know, your plan over a year as well, like, you know, periodization that, yeah, those peaks and troughs are just critical um to maintaining and getting getting to the start line, like injury free and um yeah, just listening to the body in that that respect.
00:06:54
Speaker
Yeah. And I think like the weekend before the race, you said to me, you were feeling a little bit not bothered. um Upon reflection, like, do you know why you were feeling like that? um How did you sort of overcome it in the week leading up to the race?
00:07:12
Speaker
Well, I don't necessarily want to say I overca overcame that because i I do feel that I felt not bothered on the day. yeah, but Yeah, I definitely think it's interesting and and that's the role of the community in the sport, right? Like I couldn't go out for the run by myself on the Saturday, but then I met up with you guys on the Sunday and I felt great again, you know, and it was it was definitely like having getting to run with people and getting to run in a different place and getting to just talk about things other than running that just help, you know, you kind of grumble get out of the grumbling in your own mind,
00:07:47
Speaker
Um, so I guess, yeah, I, I always just remind myself, yeah, you gotta be ready for race day. Um, I don't really know what the

Race Day Challenges and Strategies

00:07:56
Speaker
not botheredness is. i don't know whether it's something to do with, yeah, having Aurora and just a shift in sort of, um, mentality or perspective or whether, um, yeah, like I, I really don't know, but I definitely feel like for the better part of the race on the weekend, like I definitely,
00:08:14
Speaker
My body felt fine. Like, I mean, four fight the first four hours I think went by like really quickly. um My fueling was great. Like I felt fine. I just mentally was like, yeah, I just can't be bothered. And so it was really my my mentality mentality was like not great on the day. So, yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure if, um yeah, yeah.
00:08:39
Speaker
you just had to draw I had to draw on all of my different mental strategies. And the I did get to the finish and I did have a ah strong finish. So i think they worked, but it definitely wasn't the same sort of like feeling that I had at Cozzy, which felt really like effortless and fun and easy and playful and joyful. This time around felt more like, you know, I had to go like, why am I doing this? Like, why What's my why? And then I'd get things that would come up momentarily that would hold me there. Like, you know, you're doing this because you love the community and, you know, for women and all of these things that would hold me momentarily but didn't necessarily sink in for, like, didn't hold me for a long time. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:09:24
Speaker
yeah Well, I mean, like you had an amazing day and yeah, I think you're so good at like having those like mantras and things that you say to yourself during the race. um Did you have like a specific mantra for this race that you used? No, i think that's probably why I didn't do so great. No. Yeah.
00:09:45
Speaker
I like when I'm training, I sometimes come up with a few that I might stay. One of my earliest mantras, which I think was like the Great Ocean Road 100k, like it was probably my second 100k race ever. And I remember I just repeated it in my head, like, I'm good. I'm great. I'm good. I'm great. so I use that. I use that one a few times. Um, yeah.
00:10:08
Speaker
I think, yeah, I think that's why I mentally found this one hard is because I actually just grumbled a lot. Like I was like, I can't be bothered. I'm done. I'm going to pull out. Like I'll just get to I was like, you've come all this way. Like just get to the horn. Like you really just want to see the horn. Like you might as well do that part. And then Yeah, just really had to break it down, like, and lots of, like, trying to talk myself into it. um Sometimes I would come to back just to counting or tapping. But, yeah, I mean, there were sections that, like, flat sections that I just walked. I was like...
00:10:42
Speaker
Yep, nah, like I'm done. i i call I phoned a friend, I called my husband. and I was like, yeah, but no, I'm struggling. I don't want to do this. And um he just kept talking. And I mean, the funny thing is, is I had that thought of like, I'm struggling. i don't want to do this. But whenever I got into an aid station, I didn't want to stop. Like Barton was trying to talk to me. I'm like, no, I've got to So i think like, yeah, even though it was mentally hard, it also like I had i had the strategies there.
00:11:13
Speaker
um Like sometimes the first, I think it was Buckland Valley the first time I said to Barton, like I'm struggling. And that really helped for that next section. Like it just helped me to say it out loud and get rid of it.
00:11:28
Speaker
um So, yeah, that helped. And then sometimes I even said, like, Sarah, you're allowed to stop at any time you like. Like, you're just, you can do whatever you like. You can stop. you can You can take a break. You can walk. Like, whatever you need, you can do. And that also allows you, i guess, a little bit of time because you realize you're like,
00:11:46
Speaker
oh yeah, I'm fully choosing to do this. Like um' no one's making me be here. I can actually stop um as opposed to like trying to resist. Like, you know, you kind of get into these moments where you're resisting whatever experience you're having. So I think that just allowed me at times to just let myself grumble and give me an option out if I wanted it to take it. um Yeah, just really breaking it down and that's where you compartmentalize like, okay, next next aid station, next this point and then you're running downhill and then you're getting to Buckland Valley and then you're going to see Blake and then, you know, just

Motivation through Competition

00:12:22
Speaker
each of those. And definitely that back 30K helped me build like the momentum, um yeah, which allowed me to have a really strong finish. So, yeah, overall I think um maybe it was indirectly really good pacing so and allowed me to have a good strong finish. So, yeah, just embracing the full experience.
00:12:44
Speaker
Yeah, and you had um like a little cherry to kind of chase for most of the race with Alice not too far ahead of you. um And I think some of the like updates we were getting on the Buffalo social pages of you like coming into the aid stations and sort of like asking how far ahead she was. Was that like another sort of thing that you used to sort of keep you pushing to try and chase her?
00:13:09
Speaker
Um, in some ways, yes. Like I don't necessarily think like in one hand, I'm not attached to my, my placing. I mean, like I'm and more attached to my, my process and my experience, but it definitely helps, I guess, yeah, have like something to lean towards. And, and I, you know, I often say to Barton, when you know where you're at in a race, sometimes it can be the really something that really helps just like kind of tap you along and and give you that little bit extra, but it can also do the inverse at times and and stress you out and like make it challenging. And so, um, yeah, I think, I don't know. I, ah Alice had a really incredible race out there and I, um, I, I kind of thought that I would catch her, but I thought it would be a lot earlier in the run. Um, so yeah, she, she had a really solid race and I think
00:13:57
Speaker
she pulled away at the start and then i kind of closed going into Crested Valley. um but then coming out of Crested Valley or even just to the horn, that section, um like she'd already gained some time on me in that section. And I knew I was really struggling then. So when you're, when you're struggling, i don't know, I definitely don't worry about it because you're just trying to, you're fighting your own battle, like to keep going.

The Role of Pacing in Racing Success

00:14:21
Speaker
Um, so Yeah, definitely at the end it it gave me a lot of momentum and i i knew that I can be really strong on the descents. So i just knew that that was coming and if I could just be close enough to her to like surge at the finish that I could could catch her. um so I guess
00:14:45
Speaker
But I had to be in a mentally right, like an okay space to be able to do that. And yeah, fortunately I was um by that point in the race. Yeah, it was so good to see you like charging up Dingo Ridge with um Blake, your coach, and he was pacing you. So whereabouts in the race did he jump in and start pacing?
00:15:05
Speaker
So, yeah, he jumped in at at Buckland Valley. um So, yeah, it was just that little bit of road stretch and then up Dingo Ridge. um And by the time I got up to Clear Spot, there's like the 500 metres out to the aid station and back, and I was getting to the top of that climb. just as Alice was pulling out. So I kind of knew that, yeah, I was about 500-ish metres behind her, maybe a bit longer if it was, yeah, maybe a 500 metres to a K behind her. And then um and then the descent came and, like, yeah, I went pretty hard on the descent.
00:15:40
Speaker
But it felt like we i gained quite a few so places there. Like as an I ran past, like I think maybe three three men on that section, but I couldn't see Alice. And I was like, oh, my God, where is she? like um But then when we got to the top of like out of mixed track and then you're on this like fire trail but still a steep descent, I could see her right at the bottom. So I knew i'd closed close that time in that part. And, yeah, I don't know. i don't know what happened. Like my because lots of points in the day, my stomach was hard. I was really struggling with the the descending, but at that point, like, um, all of that went away and then just, yeah, we just charged it right to the end. And, and Blake was really what I needed in the sense of like, he was so positive. Like he was like, you're just crushing it, Ludo. You're doing so good. And, um,
00:16:28
Speaker
given I'd been grumbling and quite negative in my mind the whole day, it was just, yeah, really sort of positive, um, energy that I needed. Um, and he just like, and we also talked about, you know, babies and not, not running stuff. So it just helped again, get me out of my head. And, um yeah, it was really nice. And I think,
00:16:50
Speaker
a nice reminder that a big part of the Y being community is that getting to share that experience with with Blake was really special um because that's what it's all about. Like it's getting to have these moments with people that you don't necessarily think are possible and yet getting to share that with him was really nice. Yeah, that's so nice, like especially when it's your coach as well, like you've just got that like really strong relationship. um That's really cool.
00:17:19
Speaker
And um yeah, so whereabouts did you actually catch Alice? um So essentially on the flat section back into town.

Nutrition and Hydration Challenges

00:17:28
Speaker
um So I think it was like maybe we had like three or four Ks of that flat sort of like single track through I don't know what it's called or exactly where it is that, that ah that you eventually spit out at town of bright. So yeah, it was just that last part. Um, yeah but yeah, we were running pretty hard.
00:17:48
Speaker
Um, yeah and like even coming across the finish line, the last hundred meters, I like, I don't know. I've never felt like that before. Like I like literally felt like I couldn't breathe. Like I thought, I thought I was almost having a panic attack or something. Cause I was like, but um,
00:18:03
Speaker
like i don't know if it was because I was running hard or like overwhelmed with the whole thing or whatever but yeah it was we we pushed hard and I was like because it was like three or four k's of like running hard and you feel like you're you're flying I have to look at what my paces were probably was like six minute k's but it felt like I was flying yeah No, you definitely looked like you were moving well, like especially for the end of 100k race. Like it was, yeah, just epic. Yeah.
00:18:34
Speaker
guys Yeah. And um yeah, so fueling wise, you said you had some issues with your stomach. Like how did you sort of overcome that? Like what sort of fuel did you have? Like so gels, you usually have Bix gels. um Did you have like any other food at the aid stations? Yeah, so um mainly Bix gels and then the lemon Bix and salty carb drink. um I had a few of the sour patch kids' lollies um just a bit of different like palette on my palette um I had yeah I think I kind of like my stomach was not felt fine for the maybe the first four five hours which I guess is expected in terms of like that's what I've trained distance wise um and then
00:19:23
Speaker
I tried lots of different things. I tried some potatoes. I just couldn't eat them. um I grabbed some chips, um Coke. Second time I got around to the chalet, i i was actually like just feeling like I think I need something in my stomach and I'm hungry and i'm not nothing's really going down. So i um I stopped and had some noodles and I think that really helped getting just something in my stomach.
00:19:50
Speaker
I kind of felt like peanut butter sandwiches at one point, but they weren't available. So, um yeah, just tried to smash some more solid salty foods at different points and and lots of Coke and then just trying to keep the gels going. One thing that i did try to do this time and um because the aid stations were every is sort of 10Ks, it was quite easy to get, pick up fluids just like all the way along. So I was trying to drink um a little bit more. I was aiming for about a litre-ish an hour, but because it was cooler, I could drink that. But um I then just needed to go to the bathroom all the time because I wasn't sweating it out. Yeah.
00:20:31
Speaker
And I just felt really uncomfortable with the full bladder. So, um yeah, I did have to stop like several times to go to the bathroom. um But, yeah, i think I think fuel is just an ongoing like trial and error and I definitely think there's a lot of area to improve, um particularly in my pre-race fueling. Yeah.
00:20:56
Speaker
I always have the best intentions, but I think sometimes I'm not overly planned. And because typically the day before a race, you're not at home and not with your stuff that's available. um and I have food, but then not necessarily always on me at the time that I need it. And then it becomes like, oh, yeah, like I'll have that potato, um which, you know, in hindsight, if I didn't have that potato, would have probably been not great. So it's just... I think next time I need to be far more planned around being like, okay okay, I'm going to like almost eat to a schedule the day before, like just, you know, and have all those carb stuff so that I'm getting enough in on the day prior.
00:21:32
Speaker
Yeah. Did you aim for like a two-day carb load before the race? I kind of like ah I just sort of aim to eat. what I normally eat but my training is significantly less and then maybe a little bit more high carb, less fiber stuff like, I don't know, some juice or, cake.
00:21:56
Speaker
Yeah. Whatever it is. Nice. um Yeah, I i can i think it's it's really hard when you're like traveling to an event to like like you said keep

Future Racing Priorities

00:22:06
Speaker
up your schedule and I think particularly when you're like if you were trying to get more carbs in, like it's just hard to actually make it happen.
00:22:13
Speaker
So, yeah, and it sometimes requires a lot of forward thinking and a lot of forward planning, which is then another logistic that you just have to add to the all the other logistics you're already juggling.
00:22:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But good learnings. Like I think it can be done. Like even if it's just having a packet of, you know, um rice crackers with you um or yeah, drink mixes or like I did have like some pasta and that, that was good to have on hand. So, but probably needed to do that a bit more. Yeah.
00:22:44
Speaker
um Cool. So, yeah, like um I guess you came like first Australian in the Australian long course champs. um So I assume that's like an auto qualifying result for Asia Pacific champs. Do you...
00:23:02
Speaker
Are you thinking about going? um i i So I rolled. i decided not to take it yesterday on the, like, if I want. I can still apply later on if I want to. Going into the race, I wasn't going to take it if I did get it just because of um I wanted to. The main race was priority was to do GPT miler at the end of the year. But I'm definitely, like,
00:23:27
Speaker
I don't know, i'm I'm still, you know, a few days after the race just like taking the whole process in and and not making any decisions just yet. But I um i don't know.
00:23:38
Speaker
because I had so much grumbling out there, i I don't necessarily know if I'm ready to do the Mylar. um I think physically I definitely can. I just not sure if that's what I want right now. It's still in November, so there's still time for me to um be ready for that. But I definitely think in terms of like thinking about my why and being a part of the community. There's lots of different ways of actually achieving that. And that might be um without it being such a ah slog.
00:24:14
Speaker
In saying that though, I also like, I think things that really excite me about the Myla are like getting to run through the night and going into the darkness and also getting to have paces and that kind of community element that

Community and Ethics in Racing

00:24:30
Speaker
you get from it. So I'm undecided basically. i i don't know if going overseas is yeah.
00:24:38
Speaker
ah as much as I love being a part of a team and um going to the Asia Pacific, and I also think it is really exciting based off last time that we went that Australia has a really great opportunity to be quite successful um at the championships and that's, I think, really fun to be a part of and and I really want to support that, um you know, in the sport of trail running.
00:25:02
Speaker
But, yeah, we do obviously have lots of races to choose from and lots of different um competing priorities. So I am uncertain at this stage. So watch this space.
00:25:16
Speaker
Cool. Exciting. It's already a slightly different answer than you gave me on the weekend, Luda. It's an evolving space. It is an evolving space. Yeah. Yeah, it would be so cool to see you on that team. But but like you said, there's there's there's family considerations, there's racing considerations. You've got to figure out what what's best for you and what what you want to do. um So, yeah, cool cool to see. Cool to hear you're still considering it because i'm I'm in the same boat of maybe considering it. And I'm like, oh,
00:25:45
Speaker
it does It does, watching you guys run in the in the team in South Korea because I was there but not in the team, it just looks so cool. um So yeah, it's a it's an exciting opportunity for other people. But I know there was a few people that were placed behind you, Sarah, who were very excited by the opportunity. So they were they were happy happy that they got their tickets passed on to them and we'll talk about that in ah in a little bit as well.
00:26:10
Speaker
um Sarah, I had had one last question, but it's it's actually fully dropped from my head. But I just wanted to ah i just wanted to say, je Jess was asking great questions, so I was just shutting up and not saying anything. um ah Blake, when he finished, he was fantastic to talk to because he was still oozing that positivity and he was just...
00:26:34
Speaker
complimenting you out of the wazoo about how strong you looked and how awesome you were and i can imagine that that experience of the last 30k running with blake would have been amazing and at the same time i was thinking about this this talking about these paces in elite racing and that sort of thing and whether or not they should or shouldn't have them um from your perspective being someone who's running those races because I'm not one who runs 100k races or pacer races at this moment.
00:27:03
Speaker
um What's your perspective on having paces in elite racing? Like, do you think it's you think it's something that's good? Do you think it's something that could potentially affect the outcome of a race? Or do you think, yeah, what do you have a perspective or you're not sure?
00:27:18
Speaker
Um, I mean, I, I guess like, I think having a pacer is, is very beneficial. And, um, like when I saw that you could have paces at Buffalo, i knew that I didn't necessarily like need a pacer to get to the finish line. Um, but I knew that it would be like an advantage, um, um,
00:27:38
Speaker
And, yeah, so I guess, like, yeah, I definitely reflected upon that, ah you know, not knowing that um not all of us in the top three had paces. But, um yeah, you're like, oh, yeah, is that an unfair advantage? And I suppose I guess it i guess I look at it as, like, it come comes down to, like, yeah,
00:27:58
Speaker
yeah, it was, ah I guess, a tactic of mine. Like I was going to take that advantage if if it was available to me. And I actually struggled to originally define paces because everyone was either racing or or like not really going to the event. So I was like, oh, look, if I if i can have one, i'll I'll have one. But if I can't, and I'm not going to stress about it. um And so, yeah, I'm very grateful that Blake was there. And I do think from my own personal experience, um as I mentioned, like so much of What I love about the sport is the community and getting to share that experience with a pacer is like something that keeps, like makes that experience more enjoyable and more appealing. um It's just nice to suffer alongside someone else. um But ah so, yeah, I guess it is an advantage. That's one of your, that'll be like one of your biggest memories or one of the things you take away from the race will be that last 30K of running with Blake and how special that was. So,
00:28:52
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Yeah, I think... Absolutely. yeah Yeah, my perception is very similar to yours in terms of like it's... I know there's maybe some some people might find it harder to find a pacer and maybe there's something that the event could do to help people find paces if they can't find one.
00:29:06
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um But it's the same as like... polls someone could choose not to use polls um it's not yeah that you're cheating by using polls um so it's maybe slightly different to that but in my perspective i think like everyone had the option to have a pacer and therefore uh as long as it's not too difficult for that person to source one

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00:29:27
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then maybe there's something some work that could be done there for races that do offer paces um but yeah i think it's It's that tactical decision that you made to be part of your race. And it does sound like it was it was a good tactic. it was It was useful for your race. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:29:42
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um But even outside of tactics, it's just and more enjoyable. Exactly, exactly. Well, if you need a pacer in future, Ludo, hit me up and I might be might be available. Well, we'll do. Happy to be gp me to be on that on the phone list. Yeah, well, i'll be I'll probably be around. So, yeah, hit me up.
00:30:00
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um Awesome. Do you have any more questions for for Ludo, Jess, about the race? um I think we've covered a lot of good topics there. I guess like the only other notable thing was like you had poles and i think Fijau had poles, Alice didn't. um Do you think they're like really important like but the Buffalo 100K is like a course where you need poles or is there sort of personal choice? Hmm.
00:30:29
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It's interesting because I think when i did ah when I went over to Europe and first used polls, I was like, oh, okay, I understand polls. I don't think there's any event in Australia where you need polls. Like it's just not the same. but um And I probably had like initially thought I wouldn't use polls, but then I asked my coach, I asked Kelly who did the race before, um, who, yeah, to see what their thoughts were. And they were like, yep, they'd be really helpful for these sections of the race. And I was like, all right, I guess I'll, I'll take polls then. And I am, I'm very grateful that I had them. Um, I just think particularly postpartum, um,
00:31:07
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With like the forward leaning um and just the load that goes on your lower back, it offsets that a little bit. And so ah I guess an area where historically when you're hiking a long period of time, it can, yeah, I feel like my lower back gets fatigued and probably more so postpartum. So I think that really helps. um I think it helps with a bit more forward momentum up those steep climbs when you are fatigued. And my original plan was, yeah, to take them to like up a big walk and kind of ditch them at the chalet, do all of the top stuff without them and then pick them up again back at Buckland pretty much just for Dingo's Ridge.
00:31:48
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By the time I got back to the chalet and because I was really like mentally struggling, I was like, I think I need those poles for that European climb, even though it was only short um and pretty runnable. But I actually find poles...
00:32:01
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can be really helpful on the gradual runnable stuff too. Um, just to like, just to help again, keep that forward momentum. And to be honest, I was battling at that point and I pretty much hiked from there and I got into a really good rhythm with the poles and i I don't necessarily think I would have was out without, um,
00:32:21
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And again, yeah, they were really helpful up Dingo's Ridge. So, yeah, I'm really grateful that I used them. I think you probably could get away with them. For me, um I think they were they were very helpful.
00:32:34
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Awesome. um Cool. Yeah, I think we've covered everything from the race. So yeah, thank you for recapping that for us. It was an amazing day out. Like you should be so proud. And I think, yeah, like it's just so cool seeing you like bounce back from pregnancy and just do so

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00:32:56
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well. You said you feeling like as fit as you sort of ever have been or like for at least five years four or five years. So that's amazing. um
00:33:05
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Yeah. And I guess like, so now we're going to jump into some news topics um and UTMB has just released a new pregnancy policy. Yeah.
00:33:17
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Yeah. so this one was announced, I don't know if it was announced just a couple of days ago or maybe just before the weekend or the end of the weekend. um But UTMB had a pregnancy policy which was just for pregnancy, which meant like ah that athletes could defer their entries. I'm not sure, I think maybe also they could get a refund.
00:33:43
Speaker
um but it was only for ah the person the individual who was pregnant, so the mum, and it didn't extend to other ah forms of parenthood. So now they've expanded this policy to include ah medically assisted reproduction, adoption and surrogacy, and it also is available to both parents um rather than just just the mum.
00:34:11
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so yeah the same i think maybe in a few more few more options they got the the same for the full refund uh to further race entry um if it's a lottery based race they can get priority access in the future um and for i think this may be an addition as well for the top elite women the UTMB index is frozen for five years sort of meaning that the the those elite runners don't have to worry as they're returning from parenthood to perform to the same level to maintain their UTMB index. So it is it is frozen. So yeah, some big changes and I think, I don't know how much you guys know about how it was developed, but um James is sort of, was taught I was talking to James briefly about it and he said that Esther Schillag and ah as part of the
00:35:04
Speaker
Women's Equality Working Group had put a lot of time and effort into making this come to come to action. So, yeah, ah it looks like a good step forward. Did you have any thoughts, Ludo, being the person maybe who who can speak to it the most?
00:35:18
Speaker
um Yeah, look, I think it's it's really great. I think particularly um the like freezing your UTMB index um and it's, yeah, it's nice to that it's sort of expanded the different um pathways in which people do become pregnant, I don't necessarily know much about those like um in terms of IVF, but I appreciate that it can be really challenging and and and long, um stressful journey for some people. So having different options um and it and yeah, it may mean that you know some people have to change how they're being um active leading into into that. So I think
00:35:54
Speaker
Yeah, I think, you know, obviously reflecting on my um last time i was on the podcast, that sort of experience um where it wasn't really, um like, I guess, acknowledge the the challenge that it is to to be a woman um returning postpartum in in the sport and that, you know, we do need to have sort of more and inclusive ah policies um for that and be able to reflect on the things that do need to change. And I think, this is sort of a reflection of the evolution of it over the last few years, you know, um and and the research around um women and what they what is capable for them to do even whilst pregnant. um I guess the more notable example, and I and i think this is probably a direct result of, I don't know for certain, but, yeah,
00:36:47
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I can't remember her name. Is it Stephanie Case or the lady that um did the 100K at six months postpartum and was like in the back of the field and then ran through and then won it? You know, that's probably, yeah, I guess that five-year freezing of her UTMB index would have yeah mitigated that. So I think, yes you know, it's one of those things that there do need to be people returning back to the sport in ways to sort of see where the systems aren't working and um and aren't inclusive indirectly or perhaps directly so.
00:37:24
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um And, yeah, I guess I look back at my experience where that happened and hopefully um from that, you know, within Australia anyway or all that particular race can look back and be oh, yep, okay, this, like, isn't inclusive. For sure.
00:37:39
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Yes, the only question I have is like where it says um they'll freeze the UTMB index for the top

UTMB Policy Updates

00:37:49
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elite women. Like what does that mean? Like because, yeah, like ah and also is that fair? Like,
00:37:58
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like any woman should be allowed to have their UTMB index frozen because like it doesn't sort of matter if because it still affects people that aren't in that top echelon of elite because um like it just means that they they have like entry requirements for like um like the UTMB Mont Blanc races and things like that I think and like doesn't it like help you sort of get more running stones or whatever I don't yeah I don't really know much about all that stuff but I don't know I think it would be more fair to just include like all like every woman that does their events everyone that wants to apply for it anyway because I think it's like an application process like you um
00:38:44
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email UTMB. There is some UTMB indexes I think for the 20k it looks like it's 680, the and mile So relatively high yeah yeah it's an interesting one that maybe um maybe it it would have made a difference if they included everyone, maybe a little bit more paperwork for them.
00:39:12
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But yeah again, would have been more inclusive. And and and that might be where they head to next, who knows, as sort of Sarah was saying, as... as the these these ah these things seem to evolve as issues come up, when as as an athlete is actually going through the process, it would be better to sort of avoid them having that issue. But we might see some modifications in the future for someone who's some people who are maybe just missing those numbers because likely for a developing athlete might not be
00:39:43
Speaker
at that level yet, but they're on a trajectory to be at the very top of the sport. yeah So, yeah, it'd be interesting to see if that changes down the track. Yeah, because it it affects like your start group at um even like UTA and things like that.
00:39:57
Speaker
i Yeah, I just don't see why it would be only elites that would benefit from that. yeah Yeah, it's a really good point. You can send them an email, Jess. and yeah um yeah so that was the UTMB's new pregnancy policy um did you have any other thoughts Jess or Ludo before we move on no that was everything think that was everything cool um so yeah the next uh we're going to come back and talk about buffalo
00:40:30
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stampede results and and we'll get a little bit of an update from Jess when we do that as well.

ASICS Tribuco 14 Shoe Review

00:40:35
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um But we did have ah ASICS Australia very kindly sent us out some Trabuco to take for a test run and we did an ad last week that this week we're going to do a little review and very ah good timing because Ludo did run the 100K in the Tribuco 14, so she's probably got a lot more expertise on reviewing it than but I do anyway. and And Jess, I don't know how much experience you have in that shoe. So um Ludo, maybe we can start with you. what
00:41:08
Speaker
but What do you like about the shoe? We talked about maybe the some of the tech stuff last week, but in terms of the feel and and the use cases that you have for it. Yeah, I um like to use it as like, I guess I like to have ah a shoe that I like to use for shorter trail runs um and then the longer trail runs. So being the 100K, 100 miles, and I definitely feel like it was a good shoe for the 100K.
00:41:31
Speaker
um It's, I guess, got a slightly roomier toe box, which i I typically do like. It's a hard shoe to review for a 100K race in the sense of I think your feet always feel sore. and Your toes always hurt. So, yeah, um yeah my my pinkies pinky toes feel a little bit sore. But um overall, the shoe held up really well over the race. And finishing on a technical descent where I yeah went pretty hard, obviously,
00:41:57
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your feet do move um in whatever shoe you're using. But I didn't like my, I didn't necessarily feel the tops of my toes like jamming into the front and I didn't feel that pressure around like my, um like the top of my ankle either. So um overall, I think it was a shoe that held up really well on the technical stuff um and also the runnable stuff. it Doesn't assist you, I suppose, as much as like some of the, you know,
00:42:25
Speaker
like the the Metafuji might running uphill, but I definitely wouldn't have been able to run the 100k in the Metafuji. So it, um yeah, I think it's a really good shoe. um It's light, it does the job and my feet have recovered well over these few days, which I i guess tells you they were had enough underfoot as well. Yeah, nice.
00:42:47
Speaker
And were you tossing up between this shoe and any other shoe for the one hundred k Or was this always going to be the shoe that you were choosing between? This was largely always going to be the shoe that I was choosing. um As I mentioned, sometimes I do my shorter trail like runs like in the Fuji light um and I like them as a lighter trail shoe. I just don't know. i think they probably would have been all right as well for the 100K. I just historically i always have a little bit more underfoot for the 100K. So I liked that.
00:43:19
Speaker
Yeah, I liked these as as that option. And I'd practiced a lot in like the older models as well um before this one came out. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And then differentiating. Oh, sorry, Jess. Oh, can go.
00:43:34
Speaker
Oh, differentiating between, say, the Fuji Lite for someone who might be thinking of purchasing this or the Tribuco, what would be the main difference? You said maybe there's a bit more shoe under the Tribuco so you feel like it lasts a bit longer, like it can go a bit longer time. Is that the main difference?
00:43:51
Speaker
Yeah. I actually don't know the specifics off the top of head. i and i'm almost to feel By feel. We're doing feel today. Feel. Okay, great. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I, I think, you know, it's always a bit of a balance between like, um, you know, the responsiveness and feeling your foot over the trails. And I really like that in a shoe. um but for the hundred Ks having a little bit more underfoot just means your foot isn't so like beaten up.
00:44:20
Speaker
And so I think, um Yeah, based off like my, I guess, past use of shoes, I probably would have thought the light might have been a little bit too much. um Yeah. like Like not a thrill not enough underfoot, whereas the Trabuco little bit more to help feel fresh for the end.
00:44:38
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. I think I can yeah talk a bit more about like specifics so um because I'm a bit of a shoe nerd. ah So the FUJILITE is like a non-plated, um less cushioned shoe. So it's still really good for technical terrain. um But if you are on your feet for, yeah, like one hundred ks it's It's not as protective. um And Tribuco 14 is actually um quite different to the old model. So they have used a new foam called the FF Blast Max, which is um the same foam that they put in their Nova Blast, um which is like their road, easy day jogging shoe. um But it's like that softer, um like more forgiving kind of foam.
00:45:29
Speaker
um But then they've actually also added a a rock plate um to the Tribuco 14. So the plate gives you a bit more responsiveness while the foam being softer, like, is a bit more forgiving for the longer distances. um And, like, personally, I think the updates are, like, insane. Like, um especially, yeah, with that, like, wider toe box because I found that the older models were super narrow. um And this one is just like a lot better um for like longer days out on the trails. And um because it's not super high stacked like the Tribuco Max or the Metafuji, um it's still really, really good on technical terrain. um Like if this shoe was released last year, I definitely would have worn it for Worlds.
00:46:24
Speaker
Like I think it's perfect for a course like that where you're out for like Seven an hours on technical terrain, I think it's, yeah, perfect for that sort of thing. Yeah, it looks, um I've only, I ran in it a couple of times um and I've run in the Tribuco Max as well a couple of times and it definitely felt like, the Tribuco Max is like really nice but you also, also didn't feel like I'd want to take it off the ah like a gravel, maybe slightly rocky, more wider trail. Like I wouldn't want to go much more technical than than gravel with the Tribuco Max just because you sit a lot higher.
00:47:01
Speaker
um So I can understand where the Tribuco 14 would have been like perfect for something like Buffalo where it had the technical, like it had the slightly lower stack so therefore it could tolerate those technical rocky sections um but it didn't sort of fatigue out like maybe something that would be a bit more lighter.
00:47:19
Speaker
um So yeah, it's it it's I really liked the um the wide toe box, that's what I instantly noticed as soon as I started running. um I tried on a pair of Ultras recently and I really liked that about the Ultras in terms of like having that wider toe box and I hadn't felt this in an ASIC shoe before.
00:47:37
Speaker
um So I don't know if the toe boxes, I did see on the notes that they did sort of highlight that bit. um But yeah, felt much more roomy than other ASIC shoes that I've worn in the past. Yeah, I think it's it's nice for that splaying and having that sort of four foot stability on on the trails.
00:47:55
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah, and definitely helps with that like lateral control a little bit, you being able to use your like little pinky toe. Yeah, definitely. yeah Yeah.
00:48:07
Speaker
No, it's pretty good. I think it's, yeah, it's like, it's kind of people that like the, out the ultras will like this shoe. For sure. I want to say, I'm just gold star, sponsored Asics athlete there, Jess. That was a really fantastic shoe of you with even all the details. I'm like, yeah, it felt good. Like I, yeah, like I used to work in like running stores when I was at uni. So I just love this stuff. Like I absolutely froth, like, running shoes so I'm not just being like a good little athlete I just
00:48:43
Speaker
it's good to tick both boxes though isn't it yeah um yeah it's it it was uh yeah it's good i I enjoy I'm looking forward to trying it out a little bit more because like I said i've only run in it a couple of times and um I did like a 35k run, a 33k run in the Tribuco Maxes and and they felt really nice. So I'm interested to see how this one feels going for a longer run as well because I've only done a couple of 10k runs in it. But I think Ludo's shown that it can it can go the distance.
00:49:11
Speaker
Yeah. Awesome. Fantastic. All right. Well, thanks again to ASICS for getting behind the show and we're going to be coming to you later in the year with some more some some of the other new shoes that they're coming out with, so watch this space.
00:49:26
Speaker
um So next up, we might dive into the results from the weekend and while we're doing that, Jess, we might hear about your race.

Buffalo Stampede Recap

00:49:36
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um And Ludo, if you need to if you need to drop, feel free to just drop off or stay as long as you want.
00:49:42
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um So yeah the Buffalo Stampede, as we sort of mentioned earlier, at the top of the show was the 100k national champs, so the long course national championships for trail running this year, um which also meant that it had some automatic spots for the long course at the Asia Pacific Trail Running Champs later in the year. So that was two ah to to the the top two were given those automatic spots and then they but they did also roll down as we were sort of talking about so we'll jump into ah the results and and then talk about how that all panned out so in the 100k in the women ah the winner sorry i've just now it's dropped off my screen trying to get the time sorry got all these relays and stuff
00:50:34
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that's a silly right There it is. Sorry everyone. um The winner in the female category was Zhaozhang from China.
00:50:44
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She ran 11 hours and 41 minutes 21 seconds. So really fast and it' twenty one seconds so really fast time there Sarah Ludoichi was second in 12.29.36 and as we heard, not too far behind was Alice McGushin in 12.32.03.
00:51:03
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So given that Sarah was first Australian, ah she was offered the automatic spot, as we talked about. um but decided not to take it. So that did roll down to Nicole Patton, who came fourth in 12 hours 50, so not too far behind. So congratulations to Nicole there. She was also third Australian, so third in the national championships.
00:51:26
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um So yeah, some some really good racing in the women's category there. in the men's race, the winner... ah overall in a very quick time. um It's crazy that I'm seeing the top two in this race under 23, both under 23, which is pretty crazy for 100k. But the winner was George Knight, ah who is from the Central Coast of New South Wales, living down in Tassie at the moment. George, we heard about a lot last year after GPT, where he came in second there behind Caleb Olsen.
00:52:01
Speaker
He had an incredible day out there. He ran a really fast time of 9 hours 52 01 which was again there's some slight changes to these courses every year but he was about 35 minutes faster than Michael Dunstan from last year so An incredible run. I think we talked about in the preview, maybe five to ten minutes faster with the slight change at Cresta running on the road for a little bit longer. um But yeah, still an incredible time and he looked... The whole time I saw him out there because I was doing the team relay, we were sort of following around the leaders as well because that's where our teams were amongst. um
00:52:44
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he'd look like he was doing it easy. So yeah, that was that was a pretty impressive to watch. In second place ah from Nepal was Man Kumar Rokar Maga.
00:52:56
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He ran 10 hours, 36, 45 as I said, he's also under 23. um So pretty impressive from those two runners. Not very far behind and second Australian um was Ben Leeson from WA.
00:53:11
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um He ran 10 hours 38.57 and then Gerald McPherson was third Australian, fourth overall in 11 hours 32.38. So some ah some great running there. George decided, sorry, go on.
00:53:28
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That was huge from Ben Leeson um from WA. I feel like, yeah, he was always sort of mostly racing over in WA and like doing really well over there. But like this is definitely like a breakthrough um race for him, which is awesome.
00:53:43
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Yeah, we completely missed him from the preview. So sorry about that, Ben. We did get a message afterwards saying, you forgot about Ben Leeson. And I was like, oops, sorry. So yeah, he's run, he ran he came second at Transcend last year behind Mikey.
00:53:58
Speaker
Yeah. um A strong WA runner. But still, I think maybe this might be his sort of, biggest result so far like coming third in a field like this yeah two minutes behind man kumar uh 10 minutes behind the time that michael dunson ran last year so yeah a fantastic run from ben and it was awesome to see i had a chat to him afterwards really nice guy He is doing Transcend again this year, so he's hoping some superstar doesn't turn up again and try and take his money. Because he's got, beat I think he he was up against Mikey and then the year before that he was up against Piotr Saves. So he's hoping that he can, but although his result will probably put him in good stead to the race one of those two anyway. So fantastic run from Ben.
00:54:44
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um And George decided to not take the automatic spot. um I believe he's focusing on GPT-MILER again at the end of the year and they're roughly around the same time.
00:54:57
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So that ah automatic spot did roll down to Gerald McPherson. So Ben and Gerald have got those spots at the moment. and They've accepted for the moment, I guess. um So yeah, the the tickets went to Alice, Nicole, Ben and Gerald. So congrats to them.
00:55:14
Speaker
um and some yeah some really cool running in the 100k. It was it an awesome race to watch. Let's go to... ah We'll go back to the other race that was on ah Actually, maybe we'll talk about the 42k first because then we'll we'll chat about your race in the 20 Jess. um So in the Sky Marathon, which was on the Sunday, in the women, ah i was very happy to see this. I followed around ah the race all day helping with some crewing but Kate Avery took the win in four hours and 14 seconds.
00:55:53
Speaker
um So a big run from Kate. Again also as we talked to Sarah this is Kate's longest race back from having margot baby Margo last year. So she did a fantastic job to sort of crush that forty two k um in a really competitive field because in second place just six minutes back was Beth McKenzie.
00:56:14
Speaker
um Beth had a really good day. I think Beth, maybe that technical stuff at the top was was a bit challenging but she ran so well from from throughout and even like later parts of the race she was she definitely didn't let Kate have it easy so a fantastic run from Beth and then also very close to Beth throughout the day Zoe Manning in third place running for us 10 so that was the women's race a very cool race to watch Yeah, it was it was really cool to see Kate um dominate that because it was sort of like almost a last-minute decision to jump in to the marathon for her. um i think just like kind of she was a bit unsure about whether she'd done enough long training. Wow.
00:56:58
Speaker
But yeah, it just goes to show like your experience and like um your strength and speed still like translates to races um that are like that distance. um So yeah, awesome to see. And then Yeah, I think Beth was like a bit rattled um by a fall at the start. so um she had a bit of a fall on the techie section um coming down off Mount Buffalo. um She said she had to walk for a bit. um But yeah, like definitely rallied. um And yeah, she's such an amazing athlete. Like she raced the weekend before like
00:57:37
Speaker
she almost looked like she was still training through um this one. like Yeah, she was. Yeah, which is pretty amazing. Like um it would have been cool to see what she could have done if she tapered for it. But um I guess like athletes have different priorities with their seasons. So, yeah, epic run from her. And then Zoe, like the young gun, like she's just so good and like so strong on the uphills, like watching her. run up dingo ridge was amazing um so yeah awesome results from the women's there yeah it was it was a very cool race to watch and and some some really cool storylines in the men's race uh we had uh charlie hamilton back on the trails i don't think we've seen him since hounslow last year and running a race in australia so it was cool to see him him back
00:58:30
Speaker
He dominated the Sky Marathon. He ran with a couple of the boys for the first loop up on on top but then sort of front run from then all the way to the finish. He looks really good all day.
00:58:44
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Ran really quick time of three hours, 21, 22, which was about, I think it's about six minutes, five to six minutes quicker than what Mikey ran last year. um so a really impressive time um to to come home strong um first place there and then in second place we had mike carroll who also looked really good all day mike looked really strong he was running uh in second place solo all day as well um so yeah super strong run from mike he did 329 42 and he's
00:59:20
Speaker
He's building up for UTA 100, so looks like he's he's in good shape for that. And another guy who's ah building up for UTA 100 was in third place, Matt Crean, in three hours, 38.13. And Matt didn't quite have it as easy as Mike did in terms of he had a very competitive race all day. He was in amongst...
00:59:41
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Jack Ferris from New Zealand and then had a bit of a battle with Reece Edwards up Dingo Ridge and all the way through to the finish. So um a solid run from Matt to to sort of stay ahead of those guys and and and round out the podium.
00:59:56
Speaker
Yeah, and um yeah chatting to Charlie before, um it was really interesting to sort of hear about how his training has changed um with a new coach. And yeah, he was sort of saying like he's not doing much speed work, um a lot of like strength um and hiking. And he said he feels really strong, but not particularly fast. So it's cool to see like how he's probably even leveled up um since the last time he did the marathon and um yeah, like how that new sort of training stimulus has translated. um He was another one that sort of trained through this race. As I was driving into Bright, I saw him running along the side of the road with a big backpack on. So that was part of his weighted hiking training that he's been doing.
01:00:43
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um Yeah, I think he was out on clear spot on... must have been Thursday because he said he saw Patrick Clark running there as well. He was out there doing one of his weighted hiking sessions. yeah um So, yeah, he was he was training through this. He's got big goals for later in the year. He's about to head to Europe for the maxi race, which is in the end of May, and then another race, Monterosa in, that must be in,
01:01:11
Speaker
july so he's got a couple of big european races coming up so he's he sort of used this to sort of uh build towards that and yeah pretty crazy to run that fast in the middle of a training week Yeah, um and yeah, Mike Carroll, like he was so stoked with his run. um He said he felt stronger than the last time he did the marathon as well. um And yeah, like he's gearing up for UTA 100, which will be really exciting.
01:01:41
Speaker
um And yeah, I think Matt Crean like to outrun Rhys Edwards is pretty crazy because like most Most of us know Rhys Edwards as like a really fast roadrunner, so like you'd expect him to be quite good on Dingo's Ridge. um But yeah, Matt Crean just had an absolute day out there, so congratulations to him.
01:02:02
Speaker
Yeah, when i was at I was at Buckland Aid Station and... um matt Matt was coming out as I was sort of like coming into the aid station. I sort of saw the first three guys running up the road as I was walking down to the aid station and um just behind him, that like literally like 30, 40 metres behind him was Reece and I was like, oh, that's going to be a battle because Reece still looked really good. Like he didn't look too fatigued. I think Reece was definitely also training through this. I think he did 4x5K on the Saturday before the Sunday race, which is a bit bonkers in my mind. But um yeah yeah, still...
01:02:37
Speaker
it would have been a tough battle up ah Dingo Ridge and they were chasing Jack Ferris at that stage. So I think those three came together a little bit on Dingo Ridge and it would have been a fun race and and Matt did...
01:02:49
Speaker
did what Matt does best, kept his head and yeah, he's ah he's a smooth operator. He's been running for running these races for many years. i don't think it fazed him too much and he just cruised through the finish for a solid third place.
01:03:01
Speaker
Yeah. Nice. that I'll just quickly, before we talk about your race, I'll just quickly touch on the 10K, just the results. So Thomas Dowd, ASICS roadrunner, was the winner there in the men's. He ran 47.
01:03:16
Speaker
twenty eight Mikey Dimiantis was second in 47.50 so a little race sprint to the finish there I think Tom ah was just a little bit too quick on the flats for Mikey. Ian Best was in third in 50.57 and then in the women Sophie Broome was first in 59.35 Nadia Federova was second in 1 hour 26 and Jess Short was third in 101.01 and Sophie and Nadia were both doing the the ultra, no, the Grand Slam, not the Ultra Slam, um which is the 10, 20, and 42. So they were racing each other all weekend and they had a good little battle. I think Nadia came out on top for the Grand Slam, so good on her.
01:04:00
Speaker
Yeah, and like just to quickly touch on that, like her result in the marathon, she came fourth. Which is crazy. yeah of course like he looked i saw her running as well and i she looked really good because i was like, should I tell Sophie how how far ahead she is at this stage at Buckland and she still looked great?
01:04:18
Speaker
yet um Yeah. Yeah, she was only 12 minutes behind Zoe Manning, so solid. I think she's she's like proven herself really well on the stage races. um Like yeah think I was talking to Nicole, she said she did really well at the GPT stage race as well. so Okay, Yeah, really cool.
01:04:37
Speaker
um Yeah, nice. She's got a good recovery strategy. Yeah, yeah, nice. Nice one. um And yes, and that leads us with the 20K. So the 20K was on Saturday morning. This was a packed field on both the men's and the women's side.
01:04:53
Speaker
ah In the men's, ah James Barnett came back with retribution. He was just behind Charlie last year ah in the 20K and he came back. to fight for the win uh i did ask him afterwards i said that i didn't well i was not i didn't think he was a favorite because i thought he was about 95 and i asked him if he thought he was about 95 and he agreed but he was still good enough at 95 he's so good on these trails yeah so he absolutely crushed it 147.59 super fast time for that course um and he he won by a decent margin just over just under two minutes over patrick clark
01:05:31
Speaker
We ran 149.54. um And then third place was probably a little bit of a surprise result for me, but super strong run from Josh Godding to run 152.33.

Jess's Personal Race Experience

01:05:42
Speaker
So a really great run from Josh there to beat out some people like Toby Sparks, Nathan, a jack Hayden Barnett. I can't remember all the other placings behind that. But yeah, a solid solid run from Josh to come in third. Yeah, I think, yeah, James's result was amazing. Like his time up, Emily's spur was just bonkers. So he had an absolute day out there and it shows like, I guess like the benefits of being a local and like being super used to the course, but also like, I think this was brewing for a while. Like he's,
01:06:17
Speaker
still super young and, like, has shown so much potential. So it's it's really cool to see everything, like, come together for him. um Yeah. And, yeah, like, Patrick Clark is still, like, just absolutely building his resume. Like, he's just incredible. um Talking to his dad after um he had some pretty bad blisters as well that he was dealing with. um So his dad had to drive him to hospital straight after the race to get them cleaned up because,
01:06:46
Speaker
they were yeah his feet were not in a good way so to still like come through and run super well let's that's that's shows some serious pain tolerance and at that age it's pretty amazing yeah definitely and and just to highlight that there was six under 23s in the top 10 Wow.
01:07:05
Speaker
So the the men's under 23 at the moment is is pretty bonkers. There's yeah like ah Curtis Scott, who was third at Donner Double, he came back and raced again and he he finished in fourth, just about a minute or 40 seconds behind Josh Godding. So um yeah, the under 23 guys are absolutely flying at the moment. it's yeah It's very cool to see. Yeah. Then in the women's race,
01:07:33
Speaker
Probably it was was my pick and and she definitely didn't disappoint. Joanna Hepton ran also an incredible time to take out the win. She ran 2.05.37 to beat out Bridget Lunn in second place who also ran a super impressive time off the back of a fair bit of travel recently with getting over to Europe and back.
01:07:56
Speaker
um She ran second in two hours 13.59 and then there was a solid battle for third place with how many of you was within, there was a few there was like three or four of you within about four minutes. So Sarah Levitt took third place in two hours 18.06 but she was only 40 seconds ahead of Jess Ronan and and then you Jess were only another minute back and Natalia Rooks a minute behind that. so it was yeah it was very close racing for that third place in particular um but yeah some some fantastic races by the ladies as well yeah um yeah it was just amazing to see joe like moving super well on the climbs like she's such a strong runner um and yeah i was super like happy for bridget as well like she's just having such a strong year like she's
01:08:49
Speaker
mainly been focusing on cross country and track running um to so to see her like translate that on the trails really cool um and yeah the battle for third was so crazy so think I was like sitting in third um for most of the race um I was sort of running with another girl from the top of um Emily's spur and yeah started having like a bit of yeah like nausea and like stopped to vomit a little bit and then she the girl I was running with was like trying to comfort me which is super nice I was like just keep running and then
01:09:31
Speaker
Yeah, and then I sort of rallied a bit, um like tried to get some water down. um And then and coming down middle track, I actually felt really good. um Yeah, that was probably my favourite part of the race. um Yeah, like ah I don't know, they've cleaned it up heaps since the last time I did it. heard a lot of people saying that they really like middle track and it was less ab than were expecting. So i think it must have been nice. Yeah.
01:09:58
Speaker
Yeah, last time I did it in January, it was just like there was a lot branches and like the dirt was a lot drier. So I think because there was a bit of rain the days leading up, like it just made the surface a bit more tacky. So you weren't sort of like sliding.
01:10:14
Speaker
Yeah, it was just it was just fun. um Yeah, and then i guess, yeah, coming up the second climb was where Sarah and Jess caught up to me um i was still feeling good i'm just like i feel like pretty slow on that sort of steep stuff like i i still don't have like a lot of um like hiking it's definitely a different type of running because even if you look at like if you look at the men's in the men's race like James Barnett is so good at that stuff yeah and because he's just spent so much time doing it and um even other people who are incredible climbers like we know Patrick Clark's a really great climber and Nathan and it's like yeah he he can beat them so I imagine it's very similar in the women's although not as many of the women probably have done those climbs that that often maybe because there's no one who sort of lives in that that area is there
01:11:07
Speaker
ah No. So, yeah, it was all like pretty new to us. so yeah probably probably, yeah, it shows that it was like, yeah, super close race. um Yeah. But, yeah, they pretty much like just overtook me as you're coming up to clear spot. So then yeah think Jess stopped at the aid station. sa kept going and i kept going. And then down, like as we started descending down the more technical bit at the start, like I sort of went past Sara again.
01:11:35
Speaker
um and then my foot kind of like slid a bit on some rocks. I didn't really know what happened, but then i just started like feeling a lot of pain in my heel and I was like, oh God, there's a blister. I didn't realize how bad it was at the time. But um yeah, I think it definitely like slowed me down a bit because I couldn't, because it was so steep. You sort of like,
01:11:55
Speaker
you're forced to run on your heels a bit. um Yeah. To like, yeah. And so, yeah, i kind of had to stop for a bit just to like move my foot. I think, yeah, in hindsight, I think it was just like a combination of um the laces just like loosening a bit um by that time in the race. Yeah.
01:12:15
Speaker
um but yeah it was a bit frustrating to get um another blister like that because that's what happened to me at cosy as well and like it hasn't happened in training so um yeah just gotta probably i like i put something on my story after the race and i had like a few podiatrists reply with some tips so um not cool yeah like if anyone's interested just message me and i'll send you those tips but um Basically, like, yeah, I've bought some blister patches that podiatrists recommended to me, so I'll probably just put them on next time just to be safe. but Yeah, okay. So it's more like a preventative type of thing.
01:12:56
Speaker
Yeah, because yeah okay because, yeah, like at Cozzy, I was wearing cotton socks. I was like, oh, that's probably why it happened. And then I changed to polyester ones. um which is supposed to like cause less friction but it still happened um i i do think i did step a bit funny or like just maybe the laces were coming a bit loose on that one foot because it didn't happen on the other foot um yeah and that steep stuff is going to be the stuff that does it like you said like you can't really if you're running down really steep stuff you there is a fair bit of landing on your heel but also a fair bit of like friction sheer force of of your foot moving within the shoe especially if your foot's probably
01:13:35
Speaker
Maybe it's a bit looser than the other one. Yeah. Yeah, it's tricky. But, yeah, no, I was, like, really happy with how I felt descending. Like, this is, like, probably the first race where I've been, like, overtaking people in descents. Nice. Love hear So look out, guys. I'm now the techie descender. Yeah, and, look, like, to be honest, like, if you were with...
01:13:59
Speaker
sarah at the top like she's quite a good descender and like you haven't really lost that much time on her given that you also had a blister so yeah yeah that must mean that your descending is is really good yeah so i was happy with that i think like it's just come with experience now like yeah um yeah just having done like more races like techie races last year and living in canberra now like just doing it more in training um But I think it's like, it's also like so comes down to like the strength work as well. Like with Locky, I've been doing a lot more like specific ankle and like calf stuff. And I think that really helps just like feel a bit more confident on the like Rocky kind of stuff. Like, so your ankle doesn't roll, like it's sort of like strong enough to stay upright. Definitely. Definitely.
01:14:45
Speaker
So, yeah, that was really cool. I think, yeah, I was just like a bit disappointed by how I felt on the climbs. Like, i yeah, I don't know if it was because it was like too steep um for my kind of like strengths, but usually I feel a lot stronger on the climbs. Like usually that's kind of like my strength. um And, yeah, just looking back at the data, it was like quite strange. Like my heart rate wasn't getting very high.
01:15:12
Speaker
um on the climbs, which is kind of weird. And, like, yeah, I think there's still, like, some things that I am kind of, like, got to work on. Like, I think my headspace was, like, quite good before the race. Like, I wasn't um as worked up as I was last year. Like, I wasn't putting as much pressure on myself.
01:15:31
Speaker
um But, yeah, there's still that sort of issue with the gut. So, like, before the race, like, I just... was trying to eat breakfast and it all like came up and then yeah again at the top of like Emily's spur so I think yeah it is definitely like and anxiety related um but yeah I don't know it's still like a work in progress and hopefully I can figure something out um but yeah it's good that it's sort of like it goes away um
01:16:04
Speaker
And it doesn't, like, last for the whole race, which is good. um Definitely. But, yeah, I think I, yeah, talking to Kate, um I might just, like, change up some things because I feel like, yeah, I don't know. I just feel like, like, even though I've been, like, consistent the last two years, like, I don't feel like um I'm really improving, which is kind of, like, frustrating. um But, like, I'm super happy to be healthy and, like, able to get on the start line. Like, that's...
01:16:34
Speaker
a privilege in itself because yeah like like there's a lot of athletes out there that have had like injuries and like like can't get to start line so um I'm happy that I can still be involved and like it's such a fun weekend but Yeah, I guess like when it is like when you are like invested from an elite kind of athlete point of view, like you want to see progression because you put a lot of like time and effort into it. So yeah, hopefully I can change up some things. But um I feel like it's been nice just like focusing on like lower pressure races at the start of this year and hopefully I can put some things together before I head overseas um later in the year.
01:17:13
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. And I think that, like again, that race ah race, putting yourself in those positions more often hopefully can help you sort of work towards sort of getting on top of that that sort of like yeah like the nausea and and whatnot but yeah it's tricky one isn't it it's like especially because it sounds like it didn't affect you it was more sort of just that gut brain connection that was the main issue like because it didn't it didn't wig you out from like a performance how hard you could run or no Or it didn't put you in a bad mental spot or anything like that. It was literally just the the GI sit symptoms you were getting. So hopefully you're still on the right path and maybe it's just a little bit longer, a bit more practice.
01:17:56
Speaker
Yeah, i think I think I am going to try um this app called Nerva, which is like a hypnosis tool for your gut-brain connection. Okay.
01:18:06
Speaker
So yeah, we'll see. it's like It sounds like apart from that, you're in quite a good headspace. So Yeah, that might be very useful. Yeah, I think so. yeah yeah, yeah, we'll give it a go. Yeah, fantastic.
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Speaker
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01:19:04
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01:19:15
Speaker
we've done Buffalo, big week, big weekend of race, a big race and and also another big race down ah in Hobart. um Now, these two races have got to sort themselves out. Hopefully, maybe next year they're not on the same weekend.
01:19:30
Speaker
Yeah, we saw like the date change um announcement for Buffalo. So, it's going to be a weekend earlier. um Yes. Yeah. And I saw that KMAR announced that they were releasing their dates in May. So, they've given themselves a bit of breathing space to maybe decide what they want to do.
01:19:46
Speaker
and i know last year, they both probably announced their dates pretty quickly. So, I'm not sure exactly why they're waiting till May. The people who organise Kenyani Mountain Run are also running Diverge in early May. So maybe they're seeing how that one goes and then deciding how they want to structure their 2027.
01:20:04
Speaker
But I'm hoping that it leads to a different date because that would be fantastic. um Despite that, Kmart does... is such a cool community event without the elite aspect anyway that it will still survive and it's still such a great event on the calendar even without even if the elite fields are split between the two and probably this year more of the elites ended up at buffalo than kmr but i think the the event is still awesome without that anyway it's just maybe depends what the What does the event want to be? Do they want to be mostly a community-based event or do they want to attract more elites? And I think if they want to attract more elites in the future, then they're probably like the date is probably the biggest thing that's that's that's limiting people at this stage. So we'll see. Anyway, there was still some great racing happening down in Tassie. We'll go through a few of the results.
01:21:00
Speaker
We might start with the mountain running champs because that was the Australian champs. um So in the open ah men, the winner of the Mount Running Champs, which we covered on the main episode last week with a little preview, was David Vernon.
01:21:18
Speaker
um He ran 105.16 for the 14K course. He is from Britain initially. I think he's been living in Australia for a decent amount of time and I heard over the weekend that he's ah working towards Australian citizenship and that might be coming up very soon and and I saw on his Instagram this morning from the weekend that He's keen to try and represent Australia at the World Champs next year. So it seems like that would definitely be happening soon. So yeah, it's cool to see him racing.
01:21:52
Speaker
um He just took out, a well, he took out, I think he was racing with Michael Kernaghan a lot on the climbs, from what I can tell from Kerners. Strava, they were together and then he sort of got away from him on the descent.
01:22:06
Speaker
um And then second place, Toby Lang actually got past Michael Kernaghan as well on the descent to run himself into second. He's under 23 as well. So a fantastic run from Toby to run 106.28, just over a minute

Mountain Running Champs Highlights

01:22:19
Speaker
behind David. And then Michael Kernaghan was in 106.57 for third place.
01:22:24
Speaker
So some cool running down there in the mountain running champs. In the women, the winner was Jessie Speedy. She's from New Zealand, so she wasn't the sort of Australian champion, but she was first place in 1 hour 15.27. So a great run from her in second.
01:22:47
Speaker
was Sandra Kilmartin. Her flag is Canada, so I think maybe she's Canadian. And then Lieke Sheepers in third place from potentially Netherlands. So potentially the top three weren't Australian. Again, I don't know if these flags are 100% accurate, but that's what the results are saying.
01:23:04
Speaker
ah That would have made the first female Australian runner, Caitlin Rennie, in one hour 34.54. She was only a minute behind third place Lee Iki Sheepers and second Bree Maycott in 138.46 and third maybe Ruth Whittaker who is one of our Masters athletes in 1843.26 so maybe not quite the Australian field there ah that we would have seen or potentially compared to the men's there but I think that's like you see the women's field at Buffalo is just
01:23:42
Speaker
pretty incredible and ah and some of our mountain runners maybe went there instead of down to Tassie so that could be the difference. Any thoughts on those ones, Jess? um Yeah, I mean, like it's it's good to see Jessie Speedy um like out there. I think at Tarawera she had to pull out because of um low iron, so it's good to see her healthy again um and like fun that she's keen to come over to Australia. Hopefully she comes again next year, like maybe we'll have a bit more of a competitive field with Welds on again next year. Definitely, definitely.
01:24:20
Speaker
Yeah, I think if it i think if it was a world's year, we would have seen a different field. um yeah So, yeah, and then hopefully we can get Jessie to come back over and race because that would be great for the the women to have a good yardstick because i think I think Jessie had quite a good run at World Champs last year. i think she was 28th.
01:24:38
Speaker
um So she's a good person to compare to and and get a good feeling and of how you can compete overseas. So, yeah, hopefully she she comes back next year. um In the juniors, ah which was the nine k ah So this is under 20 is the junior category. And this is the same as sort of world champs. We had Elijah Gosby in first place in 39.01. He's from the Blue Mountains, first place UTA 11 last year. So backing up, getting some good form this year as well. um So a great run from Elijah.
01:25:13
Speaker
Second place in the junior category was Robert Shannon, who was ah in the world's team last year. He ran 41.01. And third place was local... and third place was local Ollie Hardy in 42-21, so some good running there.
01:25:27
Speaker
And then in the Junior Women, ah we had in first place actually one of my athletes, Liana Stubbs. She is an Orienteer and she took home first in 52-34.
01:25:41
Speaker
So a great run from Liana there. And I'm not sure we had, oh yeah, we had a few others. Aria Butler in 104-08, the second.
01:25:52
Speaker
And I'll just scroll down and see if we have any others. We didn't have any entries for this one when we had the start list last week. We have one more here. Yep. 1.18.51 Ashley Green in third place for the under 20.
01:26:04
Speaker
ah So, yeah Again, maybe with the women there, um we didn't quite have the depth as as the men, but also only three in the maybe three or four men under 20 as well. So it wasn't wasn' in a ah massive field. Again, hopefully next year we can get a few more to that one and maybe some of those young guys that were at Buffalo who would still be in that under 20 category um added into this race would be yeah would be cool to see yeah definitely uh just quickly shoot through some of the others i asked James for a bit of a rundown I was sort of following the results but he was down in as he watching so he's uh
01:26:46
Speaker
His picks for the weekend were in the mountain run, the 25K, Meg Sinclair winning the women's race in two hours, 36.30, which was a course record. He said maybe there's been a a few small changes to the courses, but they were still...
01:27:04
Speaker
calling it a course record, so close enough to the previous time, um which was Maggie Lennox in I think about 2.38. So um Meg has run a really fast time there to sort of beat the likes of someone like Maggie. So great run from from Meg while we're here.
01:27:20
Speaker
I'll do the women's results. So second place was Ellie Jackson in 2 hours 44, 45. forty five And third place was Martha Mellor in 2 hours 55. In the men's, we had James McQuillian took out the win in 2 hours 33, 55. Then Ben Silkey, 2 hours 37, 44. And Scott Smith, 2 hours 43, 13.
01:27:45
Speaker
setting And Meg was actually second outright. So yeah, a great run from Meg. From there, that was James' pick for the weekend. ah His honorable mention ah was the men's Alpine Marathon, where Piotr Babis took the win over Blake Turner in a new course record, his own His own record, I believe, 14 minutes he took off his time to run 4.34.03 and Blake Turner 4.38.21. And then young orientier Sam Wolford, who actually I raced at Triple Tops last year and beat me there. um Yeah, I didn't know he was running this, but very cool to see him come in third place in 4.44.
01:28:27
Speaker
um And James said that the three of them were... pretty close all day until sort of Sam fell off and then Blake fell off a little bit at the end as well but some good racing between those three um and shows that a good race usually leads to a good time with Piotr taking some some additional time off his own course record so yeah great racing there in the women the winner was Sarah Hodgson 5.48.36 second Rihanna Wilde 5.57.55 forty eight thirty six second rihanna wild in five fifty seven fifty five
01:28:58
Speaker
and third, Jessica Collins in 6.19.38. So, the women's results. One last result, the Ultra Solo, which was James's other honorable mention, but it was his own athlete, so I think he played it down a little bit, but um Sarah Jane Miller, so SJ was out there racing, ah think, don't know, she has done a bit of racing, but was her longest ever race.
01:29:25
Speaker
ah and her longest previous longest race was World Champs last year where she did the short trail. So she's done a significant step up in distance. She ran 8.45.57 to take the win. i think maybe like... so I think yeah the course record for this, the fastest time is Trish, Patricia.
01:29:47
Speaker
ah Why am I blanking up? McKibben. Sorry, I'm blanking on Trisha's last name. 8.38, I think. So not really far off Trisha's time there. And Trisha's time was really fast. So a great run from SJ to be close to that.
01:30:01
Speaker
um Where is... She had a sizable lead, it looks like. Second place was Jasmine Volmar in 9 hours 40. And then third place was Rihanna Hanalee in 9 hours 53. So, yeah, great run from...
01:30:18
Speaker
s j and quickly for the men while I'm here. Andrew Gaskell took out the the win, 7 hours 36.40. Alex Hunt in second, 7.57.25. And then in that's a a quick wrap on KMR. Any thoughts, Jess? Sorry, I spun through that quickly.
01:30:37
Speaker
um Yeah, no, like super good to see SJ doing so well. Like she, I swanked her a bit after a race. She said um she really enjoyed like the longer style. um So it'll be interesting to see what she picks for the rest of the year. But yeah, she said she was um chilling for like the first four hours and then um pushed a bit harder in the last couple of hours. So she said she just had a really fun day out there.
01:31:05
Speaker
Yeah, awesome. And I think James, from from a coach's side of point it ah point of view, he said that he was he was really happy and he he thought that um she got everything she could get out of herself. So she sort of run to ran to her sort of potential for that for that distance. So he was he was very happy to see that. So, yeah, cool.
01:31:24
Speaker
Great run from SJ and great run from all those others down there. Some some great running and and I'll reiterate again, let's see it on a different weekend in the future. If it was just two or three weeks apart, I think you'd get ah think you'd see people backing up even if they were doing it a shorter race at one of them and a longer one at the other. I think you'd see see people at both events. So, yeah, hopefully with enough talking about it, we can make it happen. Yeah.
01:31:51
Speaker
Cool. um All right, let's ah we do have a few other results that we'll spin through yeah quickly. um you want me to do Xterra? Yeah, if you want to do Xterra, that'd be good.
01:32:04
Speaker
So Xterra was on the weekend as well. um That's down Dunsborough, which is like three hours south um of Perth. um And this is where we have like the off-road triathlon championships um and they do incorporate some trail races as well. So they had the trail marathon, um which is 585 meters.
01:32:29
Speaker
five hundred and eighty five metres of gain. um The trails down there are like super beautiful, um kind of single track, a little bit techy, like rocky. um There's a little bit of sand involved. So um not the fastest trails, but um super beautiful.
01:32:46
Speaker
So in the trail marathon for the men, we had Sebastian Karabin in first place. um He was actually from Belgium. um So he was first in a time of 2 hours 56.38.
01:33:00
Speaker
Sean Hall was in second and he is from New Zealand. So and his time was 3 hours 06. And then third was Fabien de Saunos from France.
01:33:15
Speaker
um in three hours i eight so yeah pretty close between second and third there um and yeah we do see like some internationals coming for these events because it is the asia pacific chance for the xterra series um and then in the women we had nikita fredonit um in first place in three hours 36 So she was from France. And then ah Petra Deregin, she's a local um from Perth, was in second in 3 hours 48. And then Maluka Bancroft, um and ah another Aussie, was third in 3 hours 52. Yeah.
01:33:59
Speaker
Sorry, I feel like we've heard, we hear Petra's name a bit, so good to see her the results there as I think we'll just jump straight to the next event. So the Perth Trail, so staying over in WA, there was another iteration of the Perth Trail Summer Series, um so Stay Puft.
01:34:18
Speaker
um And we'll just call out the winners from the black course. So that's the longer course, um which is usually around a half half marathon kind of distance. So in the men, the winner was Robert Franchoni in one hour 23.
01:34:33
Speaker
um And in the women, ah the winner was Leanne Leason in ah one hour 23.57. Yeah. Very close. Only about 40 seconds between the first man and the first woman.
01:34:50
Speaker
So close racing there. Well done to those runners. Nice And we got one last result for the week. ah We had the Lithgow Ridgey Didge Trail Run Festival in New South Wales. We'll just ah call out the winners because there's a few different distances there. So and in the 50K, first was Tom Payton in 4hours, 58, 51, and in the women's, Alexandra Dunn-Delvienne in 5hours, 57, 29.
01:35:23
Speaker
In the 42K, Josh Davies took the win there in 4-19-32, Kristy Elliott took the win in the women's in 5-as-54-10. the Patty Treyhie was first in and Kate Richmond first in the women's in 3-as-34-57, and then in the and kate richmond set up so first in the women's in three as thirty four fifty seven and then in the twenty two k Henry Hugman, who is a name that we recognize ah from the Blue Mountains, was first in 149.19 and Kiara Hill was two hours 15.54. So that was ah the Lithgow Rigi Dij, great name for that. and We did have the volcanic mountain run, ah that volcanic
01:36:12
Speaker
the great volcanic mountain challenge which was the mountain running champs the last couple of years, its results aren't up yet. So we might bring in that one next week. And i think, Jess, we've probably been going for long enough.
01:36:24
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So we might leave it there and we'll tackle some questions next week. um What's coming

Upcoming Events and Personal Plans

01:36:30
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up? A bit of a lighter week, which will be a relief for the results page for us. So the Sydney Trail Half Marathon, ah Autumn,
01:36:40
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edition maybe i don't know if there's different editions of that one in New South Wales Falls Creek Fun Run in Victoria and the Beachworth Bushrangers Easter Fun Run so those ones are coming up over the Easter weekend have you got anything coming up for Easter Jess?
01:36:57
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Nothing planned yet, but I'm just going to keep monitoring the weather and if one of the days is nice, we'll probably do a day trip to the beach. What about you? I'm headed down to Tassie actually on Wednesday, so tomorrow, um and we've got the Australian Champs or orienteering over the weekend so awesome i'm entered entered for that we'll see how many races i get through it's uh four days in a row so four different disciplines um so yeah i'm just going to play it by year i've entered for everything but um i'm mostly going because it's down in tassie and i'll stay at home and see my family and stuff so yeah and i haven't been to an orienteering event this year so i'm looking forward to uh just going and seeing everyone getting back into the community a little bit and yeah hopefully do
01:37:43
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as many of the races as my body lets me we'll see how that goes. How's the Achilles holding up after the weekend? Yeah, it's not too bad. um Like I did. We didn't really touch on it too much, but it is nothing to have note. But I did jump in the the 100 K relay and I ran like three and um we were chasing George Knight. So I ran I ran pretty hard because I was trying to catch up to him for our team.
01:38:07
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um We wanted to try and beat the first individual runner. um So, yeah, I was sort of did that race so that i didn't have to I could just push as hard as I wanted to push, down depending on how I felt. and It felt all right, but I did run a pretty hard twenty nine k um with a little bit of vert, maybe 600 I think it was, and a lot of descent. And yeah, I definitely definitely felt it over the last couple of days, more so than say a normal long run, because I was running pretty hard.
01:38:38
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um But yeah, I think it's going okay. It's not like I'm in a big hole now. So yeah, I'm pretty happy, um but it's more for the weekend racing hard day after day is quite tricky for me at the moment so i think um yeah when i do a hard intensity day um or a long run day i have like the next day they're not running or very light running um so four days of faster running might be a bit tricky but they are also much shorter so i don't know we'll we'll have to play it by you i'm being
01:39:12
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positive but I'm also being realistic. Last year forced myself through this competition at Easter time and i it was quite uncomfortable and also had to take a bit of recovery going at the back end.
01:39:24
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um And yeah, I just don't want to do that sort of running anymore. So if I have to skip a few of the races, I will. um And I'll just enjoy being down there and seeing all my friends and and saying hello to everyone. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it. And it's nice to, I've been really enjoying going home to Tassie a lot over the last few months. So I'm looking forward to getting back home again. What's like your plan for this week then? Will you just take it pretty easy in the lead up?
01:39:50
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Yeah, I haven't run yet. Like I ran, ah so i ran on Saturday and Sunday I took a full rest day. Yesterday I was back at work, so i just did a commute plus a little bit extra and I'll go for a jog today, I think.
01:40:02
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um And then I'll probably just jog. The first race is on Friday, so um my plan is to hopefully get a jog in each day, but we'll see how that goes and I'm not going to force it if I have to. And um the priority is trying to get back into the gym stuff. So yeah, hopefully um Yeah, I'm going to try and get to the gym tonight. And, yeah, it's interesting because my right Achilles was a bit grumpy after the weekend, which my left one's been the main one that's been troublesome recently. But I did roll my right ankle, so I'm wondering if it's a bit of that. So, yeah, we'll see. It seems to be settling down. So, yeah, I'm positive that I'll be able to race at least a couple of times over the weekend. And, again, I'm not um i'm not trying out for a national team for orienteering.
01:40:47
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this year so it doesn't really matter what results I have like it is national champs but like I'm yeah I'm not trying out for any national teams this year um so yeah it is what it is um I'll just do what I can and like I haven't done any orienteering since world champs in in Finland in in July so orienteering is usually the sort of thing where you you need to do the technical skill a little bit to be at your best so I'm not expecting any massive results over the weekend I'm just looking forward to getting back out there and and doing at least one or two races and there's a relay on the last day that I'm
01:41:23
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i mean I'm in the Tasmanian team, so um I'm hoping, yeah, that will probably be a focus. I really want to do that that race. So if I have to skip the race before it, I will so I can do the relay. Yeah, okay. Take home the national championship for Tassie.
01:41:38
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Yeah. yeah it Running's a team sport. As Sarah was saying, with the she had such a great time running with Blake, her pacer, and like I really enjoyed running in the relay over the weekend because, I don't know, that sort of camaraderie with other runners is...
01:41:52
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I don't know, it's something that I really like. Like I played team sports as a kid and and I really love that aspect. So yeah, when I get a chance to run in a relay, um that'll be that's always a priority for me. So yeah, I'm looking forward to doing that race down in Taz. Yeah, nice. It sounds fun.
01:42:07
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Yeah, cool. All right. Well, thanks everyone for listening in. Patreons, this has been quite a long episode. So we'll try and tackle a bunch of your questions next week. um And yeah, look forward. Thanks to everyone who signed up there and please continue to... join the conversation on Patreon. I know we have a few threads going, which is, it's cool to hear the bit of back and forth and yeah, people posting lots of questions up there. So we will get to them. um This one this week we won't do the additional, but next week hopefully we'll be back doing the little additional Patreon part after the main episode.
01:42:43
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So we'll chat to you then. Thanks, Jess. Have a good Easter. Thanks guys.