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Unveiling Individuality: Ahmad’s Journey to Authenticity and Impact on Black Culture
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In this episode of Bigger Talks, Eric introduces listeners to Ahmad, a speaker and advocate whose work explores authenticity and black culture, defying conventional thought patterns. The conversation delves into the discovery of individuality and emphasizes the crucial roles of vulnerability and love in personal growth and relationships. Ahmad shares his journey and the key experiences that have shaped his philosophical perspective on life. We explore his commitment to authenticity, the critical importance of vulnerability, and how love can revolutionize relationships and personal stories.
Also in this episode:
- Authenticity and openness lead to relief and deeper connections.
- Love is not only the connection but the commitment that persists beyond the initial emotions.
- Content creation infused with value and purpose has the power to impact lives and transcend beyond the creator.
About the Ahmad The Poet:
Ahmad is a writer, speaker, mental health advocate, host of Breaking The Machine Podcast Affectionately known as Ahmad the Poet, he is a multifaceted talent with a profound presence in various creative and intellectual fields. As a writer and speaker, he advocates for mental health awareness and frequently engages in thought-provoking discussions on his platform. Ahmad co-hosts the Breaking the Machine podcast, where he delves into an array of topics with a focus on elevating the listener's consciousness. His work spans the realms of poetry, journalism, and activism, making him an influential new-age thinker who resonates with people from all walks of life.
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Transcript
Introduction to Bigger Talks Podcast
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Welcome to Bigger Talks with Eric Bigger, a podcast dedicated to delving into unexpected conversations with a diverse range of guests.
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I'm your host, Eric Bigger, and I'm joining you each week to create an authentic space of dialogue about the subcultures of American life.
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Through engaging discussions with writers, actors, experts, and influencers, we will explore the strength of diversity and the transformational power of vulnerability.
Meet Ahmad the Poet
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So let's dive in and discover the unexpected together on Bigger Talks.
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Bigger Talks, Bigger Talks.
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Back again for another episode.
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I'm so excited.
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I'm fulfilled.
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And I got a phenomenal guest.
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This is my guy.
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This is my brother from another.
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He don't even know it.
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You know, they call him Ahmad the Poet.
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He's a writer.
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He's a speaker, mental health advocate.
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And he's the host of the Breaking the Machine podcast.
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But I always say he's a new age thinker.
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He thinks outside of the box.
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He shifts paradigms.
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He's a chosen one.
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He's the
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one and only.
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Ahmad, welcome to Bigger Talks podcast.
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How are you feeling?
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My brother, I'm feeling amazing.
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My brother, after that introduction and just really sitting for the show, man.
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more 10 right now bro I love it man hey man it's been a journey I want to share with the audience you know I think I met you through my cousin if anyone know in the social media world or comedian world D Young show Dante Young I think he posted some of your content on his page I'm like man bro tap in like you know and I started following him I think one of your plays well I didn't even know I think it's the ancestral plane the Instagram a lot of motivation inspirational content viral content and I didn't know you ran that page and it was like
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creator Ahmad DePaul and I'm like Ahmad DePaul who's that?
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I was like oh it's bro like he's the guy and then you know we did a podcast probably like two years ago and I was just blown away by not only your age but just your wisdom you know to everybody listening go follow Ahmad DePaul on Instagram follow him he's tuned in he's tapping he's dialed in and I promise you the world gotta catch up with his content they gotta catch up to his thinking they gotta catch up the ideology that he has because I feel like you're chosen
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I feel like you're here for a greater reason.
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Not only shift humanity and raise people's vibration, but I think we like to consider ourselves the black culture, you know, the urban culture.
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But I feel like you're beyond that, like, you know, you're a universal human.
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It's bigger than being black for you and for me as well, you know, because I don't put myself in a box.
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I was inspired by your thinking, how you show up on social media, your content.
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I do know you're from Detroit, you know, born and raised.
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So if you give the list, it's just a quick synopsis of like, who is Amadi?
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Like, where did this thinking come from?
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And when did you start writing?
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Man, I appreciate that, my brother.
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But I would be remiss to say that I was raised in Flint, Michigan.
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I know a lot of my people from Flint.
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I'm like, he's from Flint.
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I do a lot of my work in Detroit, and I went to college in Detroit.
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So I've been in Detroit for the past couple of years and stuff like that.
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I was actually born in Alabama.
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A lot of my friends that I grew up with, they never believed that.
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I was actually born in Alabama.
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raised in Flint.
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But yeah, I do spend a lot of time in Detroit.
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But yeah, me, bro, I don't really know how to title myself.
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I definitely would say a writer, a journalist.
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Growing up, bro, all I wanted to do was write.
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So at the age of seven, I started writing short stories.
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And then I remember around eight or nine, I used to just watch TV and I thought that
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News anchors were just debaters.
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That's what I thought.
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So I wanted to be a journalist to debate.
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That was the only reason.
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So as I got older, people told me I should be a lawyer because I like to argue.
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I used to get into debates.
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I used to get in trouble a lot back in middle school.
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And I would always get my way out of trouble just by the way I talk.
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And I know it sounds like it might make sense now.
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But at that time, I didn't understand.
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Everybody like me, you got to give you got to be a lawyer.
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Yeah, so just a writer, man, a mental health advocate, podcaster, one half of Breaking the Machine, me and my guy Spank.
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Yeah, that's me, man.
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Just really just trying to empower people to understand their possibilities and understand that they don't have to do one thing one way.
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They don't have to make the choice that the world wants them
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to make, man.
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It's about you and your movie and your moments.
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I always tell people that like one of the biggest thing that hurts us as people is because we have multiple movie scripts in our heads, man.
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Like, dang, what would the star do in that one movie that I've seen?
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Or what would the cool dude do in that one movie?
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No, what would you do?
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You know what I'm saying?
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How would you show up?
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Like, just diving deep into what feels true to you.
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I know this might be a little too personal, but...
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I remember back in my previous relationship, I had made a mistake.
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I did something wrong.
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I had to make it right.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And it was multiple movie scripts in my head.
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Like, man, you make it right like the cool guy.
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You make it right like this.
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But then I had to make it right like me.
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And I thought I was some balloons, a cake, and this.
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I'm playing slow.
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Because you've got to show up like you, man.
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This thing hit me.
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This idea hit me like, why would I ever show up as anything other than myself?
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Because I'm having all these scripts in my head telling me what the upstanding man would do or the cool dude would do with this.
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Man, you got to live your truth how you going to live it.
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And you got to live it to the point that it quiets the noise in your head, man.
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So a lot of people, we got a lot of noise in our head because we're not living the way that we want to live.
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And the way that's true to ourselves, man.
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So that's what I try to teach people, man.
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Just to empower themselves and understand that they can live any story that they want.
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If you want to work here, you want to do this.
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If you want to do that work that don't pay as much, if you want to do that, man.
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It's a game plan for everything.
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It's a game plan for every play that you want to make in life.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You don't have to do it one way to win the game.
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We all can win the game, you know?
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You know, it's infinite possibilities.
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Just to piggyback off of that statement, why do you think people resist doing the things they really love?
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Or why do they resist being their true self, their authentic self?
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Where is the neglect or the challenge?
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Or the barrier there for people that you see or from your paradigm, from your perspective, for them to not be all in with themselves.
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You know what's deep about that?
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I can't remember who I was having a conversation with, but it was probably like a year or two years ago.
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And we was talking about love.
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And it basically was talking about how I received love and how sometimes people
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Growing up, we receive our parents telling us we can't do this as love or we receive this as love.
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So our definitions of love is so different.
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And that's what it is.
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It's what is holding us back from doing the things that we want to do is love, but it's not.
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It's our misdefinition of love.
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So it's just like, you know, if I do what I want to do, my parents is not going to support this.
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My people around me not going.
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And I love them and they love me.
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So since they love me, I'm going to do what they want.
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But that's not love.
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That's control.
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That's fear.
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Honestly, they're so scared of what would happen to them.
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They want you not to do it because they don't think you can do something that they can't do.
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It's fear.
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It's restriction in their own mind.
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Mom and dad, if you could do anything and you could be successful at it, what would you do?
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Answer changes then.
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Oh, man, if you could do anything and where do we live?
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You have to change the parameters.
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You have to get rid of all the noise and get down to, listen, I know, like you said, I'm part of the life force.
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I'm a God.
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Like I can do anything that I put my mind to.
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So I don't care if it's something that doesn't make the most money when you type it in on Google.
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I will be the most successful.
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I will break the trend.
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I will set the trend.
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I will go above the mark.
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So I think it's really just love, man.
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Our false understanding of love and just being held back by that.
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You got some people who never leave the city that they grew up in because they're afraid or the people around them.
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who supposedly love them are telling them, man, you got to stay here.
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You understand this environment.
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It's all these love chains.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And love is supposed to set you free.
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People are weaponizing love to hold each other back.
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People are weaponizing love.
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I don't want you to work that job because you're going to be around this type of person.
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You're going to be around that type of person.
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It's so much love chains.
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False sense of love change.
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It's like, man, you got to let it go.
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So honestly, bro, it's just those chains that we associate with people that we really love.
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And we really love these people.
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Our family, our close friends who have been there for us.
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But we got to understand when even the people that love us the most, they're operating out of a different energy, man, because nobody's perfect.
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Yeah.
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And then, you know, that equation you said, you said a lot in that equation, that formula, right?
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Came back to love.
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And one thing I want to acknowledge is that, you know, we do things for our parents because we want them to love us, but it might go against what we love.
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So therefore we set ourselves back.
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And we set them up for failure because even if we're successful in the thing they want, we're not fulfilled.
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So guess what?
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We're sad.
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They might appear to be happy.
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But I also want to acknowledge that there's something where they say, well, someone's hating on you.
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They're not hating on you because you're doing the thing they gave up on.
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You know what I mean?
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And this is how I know you tuned in, dialed in, tapped in, because you don't even know.
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I screenshotted three quotes from your page.
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So it's funny.
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My spirit just picked one.
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And the first thing you said in this past equation, you said my past relationship.
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And then you brought up love.
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So I'm going to read the quote to you.
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I got it right here on my phone.
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So I want you to unpack this quote because you wrote it February 24th of this year.
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Love is what you do when the pleasure ends.
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Love is commitment.
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You wrote that.
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And we spell love.
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What does that mean, my brother?
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Love is when the pleasure ends.
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What I meant by that, like I said, man, it was just a time in my life.
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I didn't really understand love at the time, bro.
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And I did a video on my podcast.
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It tied into that direct thought of that tweet.
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It basically precursed that tweet.
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And I said, I'm trying to quote myself correct.
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I said that when you think it's over, what you do when you think it's over really makes it over.
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You know, speaking about love and what you do in those moments when you think it's over really makes it over because it's not over.
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But the way you move in those moments when you think there's no love is really the moment where you kill the love.
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The love was still there.
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But you
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just couldn't see it.
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You didn't have enough faith just to be still.
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You didn't even have to do anything.
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You didn't have to apologize.
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You didn't have to do nothing right.
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All you had to do was just be still and do nothing.
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And it would have came back around.
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But you did something and you destroyed love.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And it could be something as simple as just leaving, man.
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Or something as simple as just blocking somebody on the phone.
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It don't have to be nothing that is probably in people's minds.
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It's just that simple, man.
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It could be something as simple as saying something in the heat of the moment that you shouldn't have said.
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But you thought the love was gone.
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So that's why you said it.
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You said it because you thought the love was gone.
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So therefore the love doesn't exist because unconsciously you said something out of, despite love, you said something that was hateful, you know, spiteful because you thought love wasn't there, but love never left.
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You put it in your mind.
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Is it leaving?
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So something left your aura in your space that wasn't love.
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And it really tripled the love.
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That's good.
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Now to get to the deeper meaning of that tweet,
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Because there's layers to it.
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You know, I done had experiences with my family and we all have where I know it's love because I got your back when it's ugly.
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I got your back when even when it hurts me and I got to show up for you.
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I done been through so many moments with my family where I had to show up and it's just like, man, we in the mud, man.
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We in the mud.
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It be tough for me to even speak because it get that deep, man.
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But I'm going to share this with you, man, just because I'm on your show, man, and we just going there.
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You're thumps, man.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Real talk.
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Like my older brother who I talk about on the podcast sometimes, you know, I told the audience, you know, that, you know, he's incarcerated and different things like that.
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He struggled with mental illness.
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My brother growing up, he was like my hero.
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You know, he was like my dad, you know, my dad passed away or took on that role.
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Him and my other older brother.
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And when my dad passed away, it took a toll on him.
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And he went through a lot of different changes.
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And one of the things that took place was he started to physically harm himself.
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Right.
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So he was a little bit of an extremist.
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So if you wanted to see him now, he got like machete cuts all over his body.
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You know, it looked like he'd been in the jungle getting attacked by lions, you know.
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And, you know, it's even hard for me to talk about.
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But.
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When we would be hooping at the school, he would come up to the school and he would come up with a short-sleeved shirt on it.
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All his scars up there and the dudes in the gym would look like, damn.
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Just like, what the?
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You know?
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And me and my older brother...
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We would just sit next to him and stand next to him and we just wish somebody would say something.
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And it's just like, it's those moments.
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And I could give you like moments where it's just a hundred times higher than that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Where you got to stand next to your brother, where you got to stand next to your family and you're like, this is what it is.
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And it's just like,
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Even when it hurts you, even when the energy is against you, even when it's just like, yo, I know it's love because it's what I did when I didn't feel no love.
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I didn't like you, man.
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Like, there was no reason for me to show up for you.
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But I knew that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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It's love.
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It's like what my homie Tunji said, man, on our episode of Roundtable with Rev1.
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He said, man, if we can't win, I lose with you.
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That's what love is, man.
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If I can't win, we're going to lose together.
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And everybody thinks it's about winning.
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It's like, bro, love is what you do when you can't win.
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How do you protect your partner when you can't win?
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How do you make it okay when we didn't get the thing that we thought we sought out to do?
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How can we make it okay for each other?
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So I think in a nutshell, just to try to condense it, man, like that's what that tweet was meaning when it hit me.
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It's just like, nah, man, like so many relationships are destroyed because we don't know how to be together when there's no love.
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What about duty?
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What about legacy?
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What about commitment?
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Commitment is deeper than love.
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And that's what I was getting in that tweet.
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It's just like, man, in the relationships in life and the bonds and the connection in life, the only way we stay together is if love is not the thing that can tear us apart.
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That sense of love cannot tear us apart.
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I'm going to be with you regardless if I got butterflies in my stomach.
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I don't care if you my homie, you my brother, you my sister, you my woman, you my parent.
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Like, this is it.
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I don't care where the love goes.
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We always going to be here.
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That's what that meant.
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And I think, you know, some people not ready for that type of love.
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Love goes beyond human comprehension because what I've discovered in my life of relationships and just love in general, people bodies can't receive that type of love because their nervous system is not safe.
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Right.
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So just think when your partner or someone you're dating or you're with, they have a mental illness and it's really bad.
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They take medication, but you don't know.
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Right.
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And they say, no, just leave me alone.
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You don't want to know who I really am.
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You don't know.
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I'm in the mental health hospital.
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I take meds for severe anxiety.
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You don't want to know.
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They're not telling you that.
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Their body, their energy is telling you.
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You're like, no, no, no.
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Come here.
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We can go on.
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No, Amar, just go.
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You don't want to know.
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And you just stand there strong and silent.
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No, I'm not going nowhere.
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And everything.
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And they start breaking down.
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They start crying.
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You start seeing the prescriptions in the cabinet.
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You start seeing the scars on their arm.
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And you're hugging them and they're shaking.
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They're in their mind like, how can this man love me?
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I don't even love me.
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Just get away from me so they'll do everything in their power to sabotage it unconsciously because you don't make sense to their reality because it's too much love that they never experienced or felt in their soul.
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So they got to push it away.
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And you're like, no, I'm the fire you need when you think the fire is out.
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I'm adding to it.
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I'm going to ignite you with my love.
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Come here.
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cry, be upset, be anxious, be depressed.
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I love you.
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And I'm learning that most of us, or some people in that space that don't know how to be loved, not because themselves or their people world has told us that you can't be loved.
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If you have a mental illness, the world told us you can't be loved.
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If you don't look a certain way, if you don't have a certain social class and you're like, fuck that.
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We break them through the chains.
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I love you anyway.
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I'm standing in the fire.
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I'm standing in the rain.
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What's up?
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So I'm learning that a lot of people that run into someone like you, they don't know how to receive the water that's coming out of your cup.
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It's because your water is purifying them, but for them, it's burning them because they don't know how to receive it.
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Because their cup is not ready for just yet because it's like this water is too potent.
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It's too alkalized.
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What?
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But it's like the water is really purr, but then you know how you do that?
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And it's like, no, receive.
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It's okay.
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It's kind of like when you go pick up a pet or a dog who's been rescued and it's like in fear.
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So I'm not here to hurt you.
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Just tell me more.
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And then the next thing you know, they're crying and they get all out, you know, maybe an hour go by and you're like, you okay?
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You want to go get some food?
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Yeah, get some food.
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That's love.
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You know what I mean?
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Because you stood in the fire when they thought it was over.
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Remember, you just said it.
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You stood in the fire when they thought it was over.
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Because you committed to love and not their paradigm they was living through.
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Their paradigm didn't stop your love.
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Your love was like, no, no, no, I'm right here.
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The way you broke it down to like you helped me understand more of what real love really is.
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Unconditional love.
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Agape love.
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And people talk about it.
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But people, when they experience it, it's a different ballgame.
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No, it goes back to what I was saying earlier.
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It's just like one thing that hurts people from loving in those moments unconditionally is like my homegirl wouldn't put up with this.
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My homeboy wouldn't put up with this.
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What do you love?
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Right.
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Resonate with you.
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That's the thing that always messes them up.
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As always stops love.
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When you consider how other people going to show up in this moment, you know, you in this moment.
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This is just us in this moment.
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And it's just like, man, you just hit me, man.
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Like, whoo.
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I experienced that with a person.
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I know what it's like when people running from, yeah, I got a lot to give and be ready for and it's okay, but love ain't going nowhere.
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Now, that might not be a part of your life like I once was or how we might've thought we should have been, but guess what?
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My love is still in you and on you no matter where you go.
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You ain't got to be with me, but that's how much I love you.
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So you going to know when you get in that dark moment again?
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My love will still be there.
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You're going to think of me.
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I ain't running when it got hot.
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I stayed in the fire with you.
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We got cold together.
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You know what I mean?
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No one can break that chain.
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So sometimes separation is for elevation.
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And sometimes what's good towards is not always good for it.
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Like sometimes we got to have to serve
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it.
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And you got to know when it is time to leave because leaving too is love.
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Saying that was love too because outside of yourself, that's going to make that person better and you better.
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But if you stay, you might really just hurt both parties.
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But people don't have that information because they're holding on to something.
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They're afraid to release because maybe it needs to be released so we all can be free and then we can come back.
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Someone said something earlier today.
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I was on social media.
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I think someone put a meme.
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I was like, the real ones always come back.
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It's like, look at J-Lo and Ben and look at Nelly and Ashanti.
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You know what I mean?
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They come back.
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But it's a beautiful thing when we can learn and we can go through the stages and the phases and learn life lessons.
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I want to move to this next quote because this one was powerful.
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It was on March 28th.
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You're like, the only reward for faking strength is more burdens for more people.
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Relief is the reward for honesty and boundaries.
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We're like, honesty?
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Can you recall that moment when you wrote that?
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Like, what were you going through?
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What was the moment where the only reward for faking strength, the acting like you're strong, you just put more burdens on from more people.
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The real relief is just really honesty, which is authenticity and setting clear boundaries on where you really are.
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How did you unpack that tweet?
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Because that's deep.
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My brother, I'm telling you.
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If you really pay attention, a lot of those tweets that I put out on my page happened over the last two years.
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And it wasn't that I didn't have, you know, thoughts going on in my head.
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It's just I did a lot of videos.
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When thoughts would come in my mind, I would put it out in videos.
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But my thoughts began to become even deeper and more profound.
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Like I said, when I was in my previous relationship, I went through so much great moments and low moments at the same time, which just like it sparked so much intense thoughts because I'm a perfectionist and I always want to be better.
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I'm always willing to face myself.
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And being in a relationship is like a mirror and, you know,
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Not only will your woman marry you, she will marry you in a way where it's just like you can only see you.
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And then you begin to see yourself and you're like, okay, I understand why I'm getting this in my reflection.
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So in my previous relationship, it was so many different moments where I was under so much intense stress because that's why I even brought up the reference.
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I'm like, why did I went off on that tangent?
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It's because it was so many moments in that.
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I'm saying too much, but now you got me.
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No, no, you got to let it out because the cosmos need it.
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We need it in the collective.
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We're going to heal a soul.
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I promise you.
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Oh, man.
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It was really just moments where I felt like I had a lot on my plate, you know, and...
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I could not get relief because I didn't know how to ask for help or to even say that it's too much on my plate because I never saw my dad do that.
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And my dad might have done that.
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I just never saw it.
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So my dad not being here, he can't tell me the upgraded level beyond a 10-year-old perception of what a man is.
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My perception of what a man is is from a 10-year-old perspective.
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So it's very stoic.
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It's very, I don't want to say inhumane, it's not realistic in a way, in a certain aspects.
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So I will take care and provide for everything.
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I will take the brunt of everything and I will not express what I'm going through internally until I'm at a breaking point.
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And it's just like, that's not healthy for nobody, man.
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At the end of the day, if you want relief, you have to be authentic.
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People can show up for you.
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And that's another thing that I used to always say, like, you can never be surprised unless you become vulnerable.
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Sometimes people are like, man, I'm not going to say this because I know how they're going to react.
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People can surprise you when you're vulnerable.
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You're always going to have that same perception if you're not willing to be vulnerable.
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In the moments where I will be vulnerable, just say the truth, just say, man, this is how I'm feeling.
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I will always be surprised.
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It will always go left when I thought it was going to go the other way.
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Or I would always go right when I thought it was going to go left.
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And it's just like...
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Wow, I love you even more because I was vulnerable.
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And instead of doing what I thought you was going, it's a completely different way.
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And it's just like, oh, I'm relieved now.
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But imagine if I just wanted to be seen as the stoic guy.
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Relief is never going to come unless I'm honest, unless I'm vulnerable.
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Once I'm vulnerable in everything in my life, even at work, you know, when I'm doing my work and it's just like they want me to produce X amount of energy.
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And it's just like, yo, my granny just died last week.
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When I'm vulnerable, the relief comes.
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Now you can understand why the product is this.
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Now you can understand this.
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And I'm not here to make excuses, but at the end of the day, vulnerability makes everything make sense.
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Because my lack of production might look like disrespect.
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My lack of production might look like I don't love it anymore.
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But at the end of the day, I'm going through something.
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So when I'm vulnerable, it allows me to be relieved from what you expect of me.
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And what I feel the anxiety of what the world expects of me.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like vulnerability just lets the weight go.
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It's a superpower and it allows others to learn compassion and grace for others.
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And at the time of this, two days ago, I had a buddy of my childhood friend, man, hit me up.
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You know, I'm going to FaceTime running.
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Not going to face.
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I'm going to hit you back in like 10 steps.
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Bro, we're up.
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He like, you know, put his hand on his face.
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He no body language.
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Man, I just got a summons on my door, man.
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Talking about, you know, I'm a month and a half behind on my rent.
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Cut my gas and electric off.
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I said, okay, that's what's up.
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I said, what's going on?
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Talk to me.
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I don't know, bro.
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I just said, let me tell you something, man.
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I said, I'm your friend, right?
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What you need?
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Tell me the numbers.
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I said, I got you.
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And I said, hey, what?
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Look, I'm your friend.
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You can't call me and ask me for help.
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Then why are we friends?
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I know you since I was 10.
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So what I did was I went on FaceTime.
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I FaceTime all out child and friend.
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Hey, yo, hey, bro.
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You need some money.
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Send him some money.
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And I said, hey, next time I'll ever be afraid to ask.
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I said, don't let your pride kill you.
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Be vulnerable.
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He started crying.
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I said, cry.
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I said, yeah, that's what it's about.
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That's what we need.
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So then I called some other people.
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I said, hey, cash app him.
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Called him the next day.
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I said, man, how you feel?
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I said, your light's back on.
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I said, feel good, right?
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I said, feel good to get support.
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Yeah, man, it's just feel good to talk to someone when you're going through it.
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I said, man, don't ever let money or bill take you out of who you are.
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This life is made up.
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It's assimilation.
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Don't give it too much power, man.
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I said, what's the worst going to happen?
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You got to go back home?
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You still got your light?
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So again, because he was vulnerable and he could trust, I wasn't going to judge him.
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He got relief and everything I took him care of.
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All because he opened his mouth.
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And he had a nice listen.
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He said, bro, we're from B-Mobile.
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Everybody in the neighborhood grows up with that mentality of stoic.
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Be stoic.
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I'm good.
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You ain't good right now, bro.
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So guess what?
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It's right.
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I think it's good for people not to see you not good because it's time for them to help.
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It's time to see who they are.
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And I said, guess what?
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I'm good.
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I said, so you're going to always remember.
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I said, sometimes you need a breakdown.
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I have a breakthrough.
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And I said, this is your breakdown.
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But you need it because if you don't have it, you can't grow.
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Well, to go back to what you were saying, he had relief because I made him feel comfortable letting it out.
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Let it out.
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What else do you need?
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You good?
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You got some food?
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I said, bro, I've done that before.
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Never done that.
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And so at the end of the day, this is why these conversations are valuable.
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And we need to have these meaningful conversations because we got to get out of this space where I'm good, I'm good, when we really not.
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We tell a person, hey, I'm not good today, man.
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Can we cancel the podcast interview?
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No problem, bro.
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Get your rest.
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I'll let you know the time.
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And your shoulder strap.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So, you know, you're a life speaker, bro.
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You speak life.
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And I think that right there, just those little subtle moments of authenticity with anybody will make the relationship 10 times stronger.
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Because now we know, if I know you're not going to leave yourself behind by telling me you're true, then you can never leave me behind because you never lied to yourself about how you talk to me.
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And so we got to make it okay and comfortable for us men to be like, I'm struggling, bro.
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I don't know what to do.
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Help me
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out.
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You know what you think?
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With no resistance, right?
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These conversations would be like, would be normal.
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We think it's a bad thing to be hurt, to have contrast, to have pain, but it's actually the best thing in your life.
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Because if you go back to the Big Bang Theory, all that was was light.
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And we wanted some darkness to experience light.
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Right?
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What's the relationship if you don't have contrast, if you don't have challenge, if you don't have disputes, if you don't have... I told people a relationship is not shared space.
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A relationship is shared truth.
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A real relationship when we're sharing our truth.
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Right?
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Then we can grow up.
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But if we're not bringing, like you said, my real self to it, I can't sustain the greater potential of it because I'm not coming with the truth.
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I'm coming with the half truth, but I'm really not.
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So I think speaking to your point of the relief comes from honesty.
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The relief comes from where you at.
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I don't got to fake it no more for who?
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He was like holding him.
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Buddy was holding back his cry.
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I said, man, what you holding him back for?
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Man, what you trying to hold him back for?
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That's me.
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I'm your boy.
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Let him out.
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Let him slow.
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You're going to feel better.
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I said, feel good, right?
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To cry.
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I said, man, that makes you a man, bro.
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You cry with no resistance, that makes you a man.
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Oh, the man makes you a boy.
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Yeah.
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I don't know that it's the other way around.
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You know, why are we thinking so much killing in the inner cities and from our peoples?
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Because there's no sympathy for being real.
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Like I'm hurting Peaky because I'm hurt and I don't know how to be hurt and voice it.
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So I want to move into the topic of, you know, the state of the black culture, the urban community, the paradigm of our, what we raised.
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What is your ideology of it or where do you see it being right now?
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I mean, you speak a lot on different topics.
00:30:21
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Well, where do you see as far as it's collective of where we at, to where we can go and what you think is happening or what could happen to make things greater in the future for everyone?
00:30:32
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It's a big question.
00:30:34
Speaker
It's layers to it.
00:30:36
Speaker
So it isn't one answer because it's completely different worlds.
00:30:41
Speaker
It's multiple worlds that exist in every community.
00:30:44
Speaker
In this world, there's multiple worlds.
00:30:46
Speaker
But in the black community specifically, there's multiple worlds.
00:30:49
Speaker
And in a lot of other communities that I've interacted with, it's multiple different worlds.
00:30:53
Speaker
In the black community, you have an affluent black community.
00:30:56
Speaker
That's a whole world that's worried about
00:31:01
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creating generational wealth and putting a foothold that can keep us out of the underworld that we grew up in.
00:31:09
Speaker
So we're trying to stay out of the underworld.
00:31:11
Speaker
So some people graduate and come out of the underworld and get into the higher upper class of society, and they don't want to go back down to where they come from or experience that, which rightfully so, right?
00:31:24
Speaker
So
00:31:25
Speaker
I would say there's a large portion of that, large portion of financial literacy that's been floating around, large portion of financial talk, you know, that sips into the relationships.
00:31:35
Speaker
Nobody wants to be, you know, impoverished or a part of the lower class or whatever the case may be.
00:31:42
Speaker
So that seeps into the relationship dynamics that we see on social media, which I don't really think is realistic.
00:31:48
Speaker
For a lot of people, I don't even think most relationships even have those different conversations for real.
00:31:54
Speaker
Like, man, regular people getting with regular people and loving each other to the best of their ability.
Community Engagement and Passion
00:32:01
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I believe 90% of our community is doing that.
00:32:04
Speaker
It's another 10% who is just, you know, on social media, on podcast, or actually is living that life in real life.
00:32:13
Speaker
And God bless them.
00:32:14
Speaker
Then there is, like I said, the underworld.
00:32:17
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or the lower class of our community who are experiencing, on a day-to-day basis, they're experiencing the war zone, right?
00:32:26
Speaker
And the crazy thing about this is even the people in the upper class have experienced the war zone, and they're experiencing the PTSD of the war zone.
00:32:35
Speaker
The people in the trenches are
00:32:37
Speaker
are experiencing the constant stimulation of the war zone.
00:32:41
Speaker
So they haven't even got to the point where they make it out and then they have to see a therapist.
00:32:45
Speaker
So they make it out and then they're seeing it come out in their relationship to the point where you're a six-figure, seven-figure earner, but you're spazzing out at home or you spaz out at work.
00:32:56
Speaker
Will Smith at the Oscars, which is just an example of something that's happening a larger scale on a smaller level, you know what I'm saying, in smaller spaces of people who come from environments where their dad might have put their hands on their mom.
00:33:12
Speaker
So now you trigger in a way to make some type of reaction because of what you experienced in the underworld in that war zone.
00:33:20
Speaker
So I interact with those in the underworld in the war zone very often because I worked at
00:33:26
Speaker
My old high school mentoring a lot of young boys.
00:33:29
Speaker
So a lot of them, even though I don't work at the high school anymore, I still keep in contact with.
00:33:33
Speaker
I still see them on a weekly basis.
00:33:35
Speaker
I still take them out to have lunch.
00:33:37
Speaker
I still take them out to have dinner.
00:33:39
Speaker
I still, you know, pick them up to go to the park and shoot hoops and just stay constantly engaged in their life.
00:33:45
Speaker
We had a core group of maybe six boys who started summer camp with us.
00:33:50
Speaker
And then as we graduated and started working during the school year, because we used to just do the summer camp only during the summer, the group got larger.
00:33:57
Speaker
But that core group of six, I always stay in contact with them.
00:34:01
Speaker
And those who I interact with or I see around or reach out to me, I'll interact with them.
00:34:05
Speaker
But my core group, I keep in contact with them.
00:34:08
Speaker
So I know what's going on in our community.
00:34:11
Speaker
I live in the community, so I understand what's going on.
00:34:14
Speaker
And I
00:34:15
Speaker
It's just like that's a completely different world.
00:34:17
Speaker
We're not worried about high-value men.
00:34:20
Speaker
They're worried about getting another meal.
00:34:21
Speaker
They're worried about something that happened to them with somebody.
00:34:25
Speaker
It's so much trauma going on in these households, man.
00:34:28
Speaker
Just, uh...
00:34:29
Speaker
All types of stuff going on in the household, family trauma, just the struggles of as a young man trying to battle seeing your mom break down and seeing your mom not be able to provide for herself and the family the way she wants to.
00:34:43
Speaker
And now you're faced with energy inside of you that says, I got to fix that problem by any means.
00:34:48
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:34:49
Speaker
You might not be old enough to get the job you want, or maybe you can only get a summer job and it's the middle of the winter.
00:34:54
Speaker
And it's an energy in you that's boiling up for you to do something.
00:34:57
Speaker
So now you hitting me or you hitting somebody.
00:34:59
Speaker
And now we can't even help you the way that we want to help you.
00:35:02
Speaker
So now it's an energy that's pulling on you.
00:35:04
Speaker
Nobody can help me.
00:35:05
Speaker
Nobody.
00:35:06
Speaker
So now the energy got to go somewhere.
00:35:08
Speaker
So now we walking through downtown at night.
00:35:10
Speaker
Just, man, it's going to now we crying.
00:35:12
Speaker
Now we releasing.
00:35:14
Speaker
And it's just like, listen, bro, whatever you need, man, I'm going to help you to the best of my ability.
00:35:18
Speaker
I was there.
00:35:19
Speaker
I was where you were.
00:35:20
Speaker
I was where you are right now.
00:35:23
Speaker
I was there so I understand it.
00:35:25
Speaker
You just want to explode.
00:35:26
Speaker
You just want to destroy something.
00:35:27
Speaker
You just want to take because you feel like the world that you was brought in, you feel like you had done so wrong.
00:35:32
Speaker
You didn't choose this life.
00:35:34
Speaker
Why wasn't we born with all these resources?
00:35:36
Speaker
This makes no sense.
00:35:37
Speaker
This is not fair.
00:35:38
Speaker
My brother is not fair.
00:35:39
Speaker
It isn't fair.
00:35:41
Speaker
But at the end of the day, we can do to make it to another day because the blessing is tomorrow.
00:35:46
Speaker
We don't know what tomorrow comes with.
00:35:47
Speaker
And I always tell them that.
00:35:48
Speaker
I always tell the young boys, man, we never know what tomorrow comes with.
00:35:52
Speaker
My life changes it by the day.
00:35:54
Speaker
By the day, opportunities hit me, man.
00:35:57
Speaker
I connect with people every day and it's just like, yo, the next day I'm in California doing something.
00:36:03
Speaker
It changes every day.
00:36:04
Speaker
My brother, you don't know what can happen.
00:36:06
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:36:07
Speaker
By the day.
00:36:07
Speaker
So as far as the black community, it's so many different worlds.
00:36:12
Speaker
And the world that I live in is the world that I want to add and contribute to and help and build up.
00:36:18
Speaker
Everybody can worry about that other, but I'm in the underworld.
00:36:21
Speaker
I'm working with the students and I'm working with the young men and I'm working with the community to build those who have the anxiety, to build those who have the low self-esteem, the lack of vision.
00:36:30
Speaker
Right.
00:36:30
Speaker
And the reason I'm doing that is because that is my life's work.
00:36:34
Speaker
That is my passion.
00:36:35
Speaker
You know what I'm saying?
00:36:36
Speaker
And that's why I speak in the way that I speak.
00:36:39
Speaker
It's funny because a lot of people who watch my videos and stuff, they might not know that I can speak in a more concise and precise way.
00:36:46
Speaker
Kind of like the way I write, you know, but I've trained myself to speak in a way that is receptive to my community.
00:36:55
Speaker
I don't want to speak in a way where I'm just using so many big words.
00:36:58
Speaker
And it's just so if you watch certain interviews, I might do that at times.
00:37:03
Speaker
And I do it at times unconsciously.
00:37:05
Speaker
It's just the way our vocabularies are built.
00:37:07
Speaker
But I try to speak in a way that can touch my people.
00:37:11
Speaker
That's one thing that Spank used to always tell me.
00:37:12
Speaker
But he like, bro, because the first couple episodes, I was just real like in like my box.
00:37:17
Speaker
He just brought, bro, you got to be you, man.
00:37:19
Speaker
You feel like you got to be you.
00:37:21
Speaker
And when I started doing that, I feel like we hit another gear because he's just like, bro, you can't be afraid of.
00:37:26
Speaker
the community that you come from, you know, because I come from the Muslim community from, you know, Islam.
00:37:31
Speaker
So it's just like certain things you can't say certain things.
00:37:34
Speaker
So it's just like, he's just like, bro, you just got to speak in a way that the people can understand.
00:37:39
Speaker
You know your truth.
00:37:40
Speaker
You know your heart.
00:37:41
Speaker
You know your intentions.
00:37:41
Speaker
So,
00:37:42
Speaker
Yeah, but we doing good.
00:37:44
Speaker
I don't know if you put it out on your page.
00:37:46
Speaker
Someone had it.
00:37:47
Speaker
I think it was, is it Nuzi Muhammad?
00:37:50
Speaker
He's from the nation.
00:37:51
Speaker
I'm getting it right.
00:37:53
Speaker
Nuri.
00:37:54
Speaker
Yeah, Nuri.
00:37:54
Speaker
So he put out a video that somebody else shared, and it was the Obama effect.
00:38:00
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:00
Speaker
Obama said they had a bunch of kids before he was elected to take a test.
00:38:05
Speaker
80% of the children failed.
00:38:07
Speaker
After Obama was elected, 80% of the people who took the test again passed.
00:38:14
Speaker
And so basically his nursing was saying that it wasn't about that they learned anything, did it?
00:38:20
Speaker
The representation was new.
00:38:21
Speaker
Therefore, they had confidence that they could do more and better because they can see it.
00:38:26
Speaker
Most times where we come from, people go off what they see, not what they know.
00:38:30
Speaker
So I've always anchored myself in, okay, I'm going to be it.
00:38:34
Speaker
So my nephews and people looking up know they can do it.
00:38:37
Speaker
When I didn't go pro in ball, I told you this before, I had to go pro in life.
00:38:41
Speaker
And so the books, the podcast, the conversation, articulation, the code switching, the slang, however you want to do it, however you want to show up.
00:38:50
Speaker
You want to argue, you want to speak low, only to show our brothers and sisters and the people that's looking up to us that you can be it.
00:38:58
Speaker
You don't always have to do it to be.
00:39:00
Speaker
You can just be it and then you do it.
00:39:02
Speaker
But I think when we talked about passion, like you say, you're passionate about the world.
00:39:05
Speaker
You're in the underworld helping the people is because that's your passion.
00:39:09
Speaker
And most times in our community, we put the money before the passion.
00:39:12
Speaker
So then if the money comes before the passion, we try to get the money, they come back to the passion.
00:39:17
Speaker
But then we lost the passion from the passion because we got the money.
00:39:22
Speaker
We make the passion, the intention, the money will follow the passion.
00:39:25
Speaker
What we get so fixated on having the bag that the bag dilutes the passion when we get it because we lost touch of what the passion was.
00:39:33
Speaker
Right?
00:39:33
Speaker
Because we numbed ourselves.
00:39:35
Speaker
But if you keep the passion where the passion is and you give it the love, like you said when it's in a hard place, you keep loving this passion.
00:39:43
Speaker
Guess what?
00:39:43
Speaker
The money, the real money will come and then the money will be authentic money.
00:39:47
Speaker
It's not going to be fake, real money.
00:39:48
Speaker
Get what I'm saying?
00:39:49
Speaker
The money now you want to come spend it with us, but we don't even respect your money anymore because your passion left your soul.
00:39:56
Speaker
Sometimes life gets that way and it's not bad.
00:39:58
Speaker
It's just real.
Content Creation and Representation
00:39:59
Speaker
We got to kind of recalibrate or come back.
00:40:01
Speaker
Say, hold on, let me get my feet back in the ground.
00:40:03
Speaker
Sometimes I got to leave LA, go back to be more to get back in the energy.
00:40:06
Speaker
I got to remind myself where I've come from.
00:40:08
Speaker
I don't forget to get it twisted.
00:40:10
Speaker
I know what's up.
00:40:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:12
Speaker
I know the slang.
00:40:12
Speaker
Yo, shorty, what up, boy?
00:40:15
Speaker
Like, I'm talking a certain way.
00:40:16
Speaker
It's a slang.
00:40:17
Speaker
So that brings me back into the vibration of the underworld.
00:40:21
Speaker
Like, yeah, we used to get chicken box from here.
00:40:23
Speaker
We used to get the half and half.
00:40:25
Speaker
We used to go to mama's and get the penny candy.
00:40:28
Speaker
We used to flip off, you know, monkey bars and the mattresses.
00:40:31
Speaker
Like, you know, like, it's real life.
00:40:32
Speaker
That was real life for me at one point.
00:40:34
Speaker
Better makes me different because and relatable because I get it.
00:40:38
Speaker
So I just think what you're saying is beautiful because there are so many different layers, so many different cultures.
00:40:44
Speaker
And here's the thing.
00:40:45
Speaker
Just because we black doesn't mean we grew up the same.
00:40:48
Speaker
Just because we black doesn't mean we think the same.
00:40:50
Speaker
Because sometimes our culture want to put us in a box.
00:40:52
Speaker
Like, no, homie, that's not my path.
00:40:54
Speaker
That's your path.
00:40:55
Speaker
My path is different.
00:40:56
Speaker
So my path is to go be it.
00:40:58
Speaker
So when you see it, you know, you can do it.
00:41:00
Speaker
Because most people, 80% of people going off what they see, not what they know.
00:41:04
Speaker
He can do it.
00:41:06
Speaker
I can do it.
00:41:06
Speaker
And so that's what I think you're doing with your content, your podcast, and just how you show up.
00:41:12
Speaker
Let's talk about the benefits of content creation.
00:41:15
Speaker
And what is content creation to you and how do you use it as a vehicle to,
00:41:19
Speaker
to not only feed the passion and give it passion, but to kind of evolve your passion, evolve yourself because you put out a lot of content.
00:41:26
Speaker
What is it for you and your life?
00:41:29
Speaker
Yeah, that's a great question.
00:41:32
Speaker
Brother Ben X is something he says, and it's something that I always understood when I started making content.
00:41:38
Speaker
You have to give value.
00:41:39
Speaker
Your content has to give value to people.
00:41:42
Speaker
Whether you're cooking, right, let's say a content creator or
00:41:46
Speaker
They cook, but they only show the finished product.
00:41:48
Speaker
You're not bringing value to anybody.
00:41:49
Speaker
You're stimulating people, but you're not bringing value.
00:41:52
Speaker
But if you show us how you put it together and prepared it and what you put into it, then you bring value to people because you show people how they can produce something that'll give them that same feeling in their own life.
00:42:03
Speaker
So I have to give value.
00:42:05
Speaker
So I'm not just showing a nice car, showing a nice watch.
00:42:09
Speaker
I'm showing.
00:42:10
Speaker
That's what the value of this is.
00:42:12
Speaker
I literally started putting out content when I was a junior in college.
00:42:18
Speaker
And then you guys saw me grow from a junior in college to a senior to graduate to move to Atlanta.
00:42:25
Speaker
to work on shows in Atlanta, move to North Carolina, continue to work shows there, move to Detroit, buy my own studio, do this, continue to do more shows, interview bigger guests.
00:42:37
Speaker
Just like you said, you have to see it in order to know you can be it.
00:42:40
Speaker
Right, right, right.
00:42:41
Speaker
That's what all this is about.
00:42:42
Speaker
That's what gave me faith to know you could go and come on a podcast and give me this.
00:42:46
Speaker
Because your content was like, the more I saw, the more I believed it.
00:42:51
Speaker
Because the more you are, the more confidence you gave me.
00:42:54
Speaker
That's why us in this position and anybody, if you have a passion, constantly put it out.
00:42:59
Speaker
Don't worry about perfecting it because perfection is not real.
00:43:03
Speaker
Right now in real time, you and I are on the podcast.
00:43:06
Speaker
I'm on Zoom.
00:43:07
Speaker
You on Zoom.
00:43:07
Speaker
I'm on a Mac or whatever.
00:43:09
Speaker
We're not on social media right now.
00:43:10
Speaker
This is real life.
00:43:11
Speaker
This is the real.
00:43:13
Speaker
And it's beautiful because we got to do more of this.
00:43:16
Speaker
We got to connect in the moment.
00:43:17
Speaker
We can't worry about how it look or how it come out because that's not authentic.
00:43:20
Speaker
Authenticity is...
00:43:22
Speaker
What you think?
00:43:24
Speaker
Not how you should think because of who's going to see it.
00:43:26
Speaker
Like your boy was saying, you got to be you.
00:43:29
Speaker
And it's beautiful because your content has reached so many people that you inspire so much change in people that you don't even know.
Philosophy of Authentic Content Creation
00:43:37
Speaker
That's why I said the fact that you said that brother Ben X, I'll tell you like, you know, you can't just show people the finished process of the food.
00:43:45
Speaker
What's the ingredients?
00:43:46
Speaker
What it took to get the groceries and how did you cook it?
00:43:49
Speaker
What type of environment were you in?
00:43:50
Speaker
Was it hot in the kitchen?
00:43:51
Speaker
Like, you know what I mean?
00:43:52
Speaker
Give me the whole thing.
00:43:53
Speaker
Give me the whole setup.
00:43:55
Speaker
And value is always needed in the world that we live in because sometimes, you know, the value can be distorted.
00:44:02
Speaker
You know, especially if you ain't in a line or what they're saying.
00:44:05
Speaker
Like, you can hear people talk, but it's not catching you because the frequency behind it's not real.
00:44:10
Speaker
It's ingenuine.
00:44:11
Speaker
It's only to get some likes and some comments or some reaction.
00:44:16
Speaker
It's not authentic.
00:44:17
Speaker
It's just for that moment because I want this attention, right?
00:44:20
Speaker
So, you know, they always say some people don't want help.
00:44:22
Speaker
They just want attention.
00:44:24
Speaker
That's what social media does sometimes unconsciously to all of us.
00:44:28
Speaker
I mean, I've used it for that.
00:44:29
Speaker
I want it too, Che.
00:44:30
Speaker
But then I'm like, what am I doing?
00:44:31
Speaker
What am I really doing?
00:44:32
Speaker
And I've been on content for ages.
00:44:34
Speaker
But as I've grown, I realize, like, every time I pray, bro, and I pray before I wake up, I ask God to use me in such a phenomenal way.
00:44:41
Speaker
God allow me to post the right content at the right time that it impact the right people.
00:44:45
Speaker
Strengthen my vibration, strengthen my frequency that I hit and heal.
00:44:49
Speaker
God, work with me, work with me, work for me.
00:44:51
Speaker
Let's win.
00:44:52
Speaker
so now my content is that much enriched because I don't put some energy on it I'm not just going to my phone and like I think it should be cool let me put this quote up it's coming to me to put this quote up opposed to me thinking I should put the quote up right and
00:45:08
Speaker
You know, another thing I love about what you do is I can tell you a thinker.
00:45:13
Speaker
And I think the challenge in most people's lives is not that they're not thinking, they don't know how to think.
00:45:20
Speaker
What is your relationship on how to think about the content you create?
00:45:24
Speaker
And
00:45:25
Speaker
how do you get your thoughts to write?
00:45:26
Speaker
Where do they come from?
00:45:27
Speaker
Because before we got on the podcast, we talked about you dream a lot, but how do you manifest your thoughts to create content, to go viral?
00:45:34
Speaker
And even with something as simple as you can go to an ancestral playing page and you'll see something with
00:45:41
Speaker
I don't know, Denzel Washington or something.
00:45:42
Speaker
And I'm like, how do you know to grab that piece of content to put that music, put that 22 second, I look out.
00:45:48
Speaker
Where do you get that from?
00:45:49
Speaker
Like, who called you to do it like this and that?
00:45:51
Speaker
Like, how do you embody all that?
00:45:53
Speaker
Like, where does that ideology come from from you?
00:45:56
Speaker
That's another great question.
00:45:58
Speaker
I really can't say that I know exactly where that comes from.
00:46:01
Speaker
And I really, if I could, I would tell you where it comes from.
00:46:06
Speaker
It's just a vibration.
00:46:07
Speaker
That's all I can say.
00:46:09
Speaker
When I hear people talk, I hear music, right?
00:46:12
Speaker
So when I hear you talk,
00:46:14
Speaker
classical music is playing in my head so I know exactly the track to put on you you know I got like 10 tracks in my head my yeah my catalog of classical music is so extensive so when I hear people talk I hear music you know what I'm saying so even before our show sometimes I play a song I'll sit down before we on and I'll play a song for spanking I'll say this is the track so when you're speaking hear this
00:46:39
Speaker
Because I'm like, this is the track I'm going to use for our clips.
00:46:41
Speaker
So when you speak and speak in this energy.
00:46:44
Speaker
So it'll be good for me to do it in clips.
Music's Role in Content Impact
00:46:46
Speaker
So anytime I hear people talk, I have a soundtrack for them.
00:46:50
Speaker
I have a score for them.
00:46:51
Speaker
Oh, man, yeah, that's the one.
00:46:53
Speaker
He's speaking in that way.
00:46:53
Speaker
Oh, the energy revved up.
00:46:55
Speaker
I'm like, OK, I see it's coming.
00:46:57
Speaker
So that's just how my energy works.
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So I used to watch interviews and I'm just like, you know, we'll make this interview just another level if I could put this soundtrack in it.
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So then I just started making clips and I just started putting them out, putting them out.
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Then I came across the Agape song by Nicholas Brittle and Tracy Ellis Ross had posted it or she had reposted a post of this black couple kissing.
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And this is like years ago, like five, six years ago.
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And I remember I heard the song for the first time and I was like, yo, that is probably the greatest song I've ever heard in my life.
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I'm like, yo, I got to just put the song in my clips that I'm putting out.
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When I started doing that, skyrocket.
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Not only did I make that song the household hit that it is, because a lot of people don't even know that.
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When I first came across that song, it was not as big as it is now.
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And one thing I always will always appreciate Wallow for is he got on Drink Champs and he was like, because Nas had sampled that score in one of his songs that he did with Lil Durk on the King Disease One, I believe.
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And he was like, man, my man Muhammad, he made that sample hot, man.
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He made that sample hot on the Ancestral Plane.
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He says it at the end of his Drink Champs interview if you go back and watch it.
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And I remember hitting him afterwards like, man, people just kept tagging me on my Instagram like, yo, man, Wallo, he shouted you out.
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And he never said that.
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He never texted me like, bro, I shouted you out.
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It was just random.
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And that just showed like when people got loved.
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It's just like they're going to do it and they ain't going to say they ain't going to even acknowledge what they did.
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And I'm just like, yo, because a lot of people have made contributions in life and they'll never get the credit for it.
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And it's not even important to get the credit for it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Because it's not my score or my music.
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But I definitely have an ear for music.
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You know, it's kind of why I make music now.
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I produce music.
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I play the piano, different things like that, because I have an ear for music, you know?
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Things are coming through.
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So take it or leave it, man.
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Honestly, bro, I don't know how you feel about it because you're so creative and so tuned and tap into the cosmos, into the frequencies of music and people and speaking.
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I think this would be a great business model to market, consult a company where people pay you, they trade the videos, and they send you the videos.
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You come up with the music, where to put the music in the clip.
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And I don't know, you can do 20 videos for $3,000.
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I don't know.
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I'm just saying that's a gift, bro.
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I don't know there's a lane for that.
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You got companies that'll take your stuff and they'll add music, but they're not intentionally like the way you are.
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I'm thinking if I sent you five videos right now, out of those five, you probably can at least like two or three go viral just off of how you tuned in to what you know, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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Like some heavyweights.
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So just think about some people who trying to come up like-
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Bro, I can make that.
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Just give me 10 videos.
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Give me a trial.
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Just give me 10 videos.
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You ain't got a payment.
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If they go, let's work.
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Let's do business.
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You know what I mean?
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I just think like, because now you're really activating that gift in the spiritual realm and in the physical with people.
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Now you're giving people, it's kind of like you're giving people a haircut or you're giving them a fit for their costume or for their uniform that they're putting together.
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You get what I'm saying?
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You're really producing their content.
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You know what I mean?
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That's how you build about music when you create content.
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That's powerful.
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I didn't even know you was into music.
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That's why I'm asking the questions because I'm like, hold on.
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I'm like, what?
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You get classical music playing or someone speaking?
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Well, imagine you did that for the Tracee Ellis Ross.
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That score went crazy.
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Imagine not only you in a sitting, but everybody involved.
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And I said, now we got people on retainers.
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Now, mostly because I send, bro, 10 videos a month, bro.
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It changed my life.
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I got brand deals.
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I'm speaking all over the world.
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All because you used your gift on that gift and you amplified their spirit in the world.
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Now everyone's winning.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, that's a real thing, bro.
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That's what I did for Rev1.
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Literally, just exactly what you said.
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Yeah, because it was like some clips.
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I think I hit you a while ago.
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I'm like, yo, can you find this video?
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Because I was actually going through this exact thing the guy was saying.
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The music behind him was pulling me.
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And so I get into like, not the antics, but like, you know how you got beats?
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the music or the instruments behind the beat.
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There's something before that.
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We trade energy before we create something.
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Keep the energy so you don't respect it.
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I just think, yeah, man, that gift, bro.
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You got to exercise that, man.
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Even with some of your homies, I mean...
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Because I'm curious.
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If I just send you five videos, see what you think.
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But yeah, I'm blown away, man.
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But that's why I wanted to tap into your thinking, how you think.
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Now it makes sense.
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Yo, your page got 400,000 followers, bro.
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Almost, yeah.
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You got 400,000 followers on Ancestral Plane.
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That's your Instagram page.
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You created that with your energy and your aura.
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You got 20,000 on your page.
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So clearly you're doing something, right?
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It's not easy to just build pages, but this is all per your gifts and what you know.
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So, you know, I know it's late on your end, man.
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I don't want to take too much of your time.
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Is there anything else you want to add or anything you want to say?
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Anything you got coming up?
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We can find you.
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We can connect.
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Like, how do we get in your vibration and your frequency so we can just benefit from your gospel, man, of your course, of who you are?
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Like, I feel like you have a music.
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What is the thing you have at all?
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Symphony, yeah, orchestra.
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Like, you have that in your vibration.
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So, like, when you create content, it's like it's doing something to people's, like, energy like this.
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And people get more inspired by it.
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And I appreciate it.
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But how can we connect with you?
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How can we get into your frequency to learn more, build more and, you know, be of service to you?
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First and foremost, I appreciate you having me on, bro.
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This has been a powerful conversation, man.
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And every time we connect, bro, it always does something for my soul, bro.
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I feel lighter, man.
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I feel energized.
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I feel better, bro.
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And it's exactly like what you said, man.
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I feel like you was in my soul group, bro, as soon as we connected.
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I'm just like, bro, this brother is genuine, man.
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And he always just gives good energy.
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He always gives value.
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He's just an uplifter of people, bro.
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I really appreciate you, man.
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You have no idea, man.
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You are one of the people that I'm glad I connected with.
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And it's just like, man, I know we're going to continue to build, you know what I'm saying, as time goes, man, because I want us to be able to elevate and shed light on the people together, you know what I'm saying?
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Bro, it's just so much that we're going to do, bro.
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I can see it, man.
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We're going to be on stages.
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We're going to be on stages.
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Yeah.
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Selling out arenas.
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You're reading my mind, bro.
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I didn't put together certain events, speaking events.
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And I'm just like, now that I think about it, I'm like, bro, I should have had you at that event.
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When I was working for the nonprofit, I would do different speakers.
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Then I'll fly people out and stuff like that.
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But yeah, bro, we're going to do great things, man.
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But in terms of following me, man, you can follow me on Instagram and on Twitter at underscore Ahmad, A-H-M-A-D, The Poet.
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Or you can follow us on Instagram at BRTheMachine or on Twitter at BRTheMachine.
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You know, watch the podcast Breaking the Machine.
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That's where you're going to get the majority of the information and just great conversations that I have with my cold spank.
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Man, some of the greatest conversations, man, you'll ever hear.
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Breaking the Machine podcast, man.
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Go check that out, man.
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But yeah, man, as far as me, bro, like I said, man, I'm really just trying to sharpen myself and strengthen myself for this next phase of my journey.
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And I'm really excited for people to continue to walk with me on my journey, man.
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I'm really looking forward to upgrading my content on Instagram.
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in terms of buying a better camera and stuff like that.
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I started to edit more intensely so I can give the people the content that's been in my mind for a while.
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I've been working on a book for a
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while.
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I've been talking about it on the podcast for a long time.
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And one of the biggest reasons I pivoted into producing because I want to produce the soundtrack for the audio book.
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I want it to be like an audio series and I want to narrate it.
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And I
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You can work something out, man.
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I would love to do some spoken word or like, so I don't know, but I feel like you can help me produce that when it's time to come out.
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Yeah.
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No, absolutely, bro.
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Like, that's just what I'm focused on.
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So when this series come out and I've been teasing it on Breaking the Machine, it's a self-help book that I'm putting out.
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And then it's also going to be a murder mystery that I'm going to put out.
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based on a real crime that took place in my city.
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It was a serial stabbing that took place in my city.
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It's well known in the city, but not around the world.
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14 black boys were stabbed.
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So it was targeted on black boys.
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And it's a story that's not very well known.
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It happened while I was in middle school.
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So I live the experience.
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I'll be a part of the story, not in the same name, but my writing prowess and my skills is going to be enhanced in this story.
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The way I narrate the story, I should send you a sample of it.
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You'd be like, yo, from the music to the narration.
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I don't know if you've ever watched Riverdale.
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But I really love the way I believe it's Cole Spruce or either him or Dylan, his brother Dylan, the way they narrate the show.
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I narrate my book in that way, in a similar ilk.
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It's just beautiful, man.
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So I want to be able to narrate it.
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I want to be able to produce it.
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And I just want when you're listening to it at night or in the morning, it just it feels like you're immersed in an audio movie.
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And it's just the beautiful, greatest thing you've ever heard, man.
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So, yeah, man, be on the lookout for that, man.
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But.
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More than anything, man, just be calm in your spirit and just know that it's going to be all right and that your brothers and sisters is in this thing with you, man.
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Yeah.
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And it's beautiful, man.
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And I love that.
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And before we end, I want to end with your favorite quotes that I came on today.
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And I'm going to say it.
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So people listen, tune in, tap in.
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He know.
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Here it is.
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God will make you untouchable, untouchable when you're doing his work until your purpose is served.
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No man or woman can stop you.
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Say that again.
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This is from Ahmad the Poet.
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Go follow him, underscore Ahmad the Poet on Twitter and Instagram.
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God will make you untouchable when you're doing his work until your purpose is served.
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No man or woman can stop forever and ever.
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Amala the Poet, thank you for being on Bigger Talks Podcast.
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Shout out to Simplify Impact, my marketing group who takes to all my content creation on YouTube, Instagram, and by the way, get your It's Miracle Season buddy at itsmiracleseason.co.
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If you want 50% off, there's a promo code MSEASON, all caps.
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You guys be great.
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Follow Ahmad the poet.
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He's incredible.
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He's a beautiful, beautiful soul.
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He's here changing lives with his vibration, his vibradium.
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Check out his podcast and just do the work and it will work.
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So it is.
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More and more.
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Ahmad, thank you.
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