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Episode 24 - ABC Returns

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On this episode, Afro Beer Chick returns to discuss women in beer, Masons and continues to give Tony shit for not getting Goose Island Double Barrel BCS. Music for this episode was provided by: Ellis D: https://ellisdmusiq.bandcamp.com/ You can also find them on Spotify, iTunes and YouTube Intro and Outro provided by Fluid Minds http://fluidmindsmusic.com
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Introduction and Podcast Platforms

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listening to The Malting Hour with Brandon and Tony. You can find the podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, and SoundCloud. You can find us on Instagram and Facebook by searching The Malting Hour. And coming soon, TheMaltingHour.com. Now, onto the show.

Crafting the Perfect Podcast Intro

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Thank you. Always speaking it is. Sneaky as is.
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I can't wait to listen to the tapping. Will I leave the tapping in? We'll find out. Welcome to the beginning. I, I, most of the time there's a cutoff point of leaving the, where to have the beginning come in with the music. It's either it sounds funny because we're at the end of what we're talking about or it's just nonsensical. No one would understand it and it's not worth leaving it in 90% of the time.
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It's pretty funny. Oh, you're better than me, because like I said in the beginning of mine, it's like what you hear is what you get, because I don't edit shit. Yeah. It seems to be working so far. Your show's pretty good with all your two episodes.
00:01:20
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Hey, I have three episodes now and a double beer. Okay.

Meet the Guest: Shalana aka ABC Afro Beer Chick

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Welcome to the Molting Hour. We're back again. I'm Tony Golic. And I'm Brandon Winningjerk. We're joined by a jerk. With a double beer. Welcome back. ABC Afro Beer Chick, Shalana. Hey. Thanks for joining us again.
00:01:42
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Thank you, guys. Come here. ABC. What was that sign? ABC, BBD? Yeah. You know what I do, Nick? I say ABC, CBG.
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Does he say like East Coast family or something? Yeah, East Coast family. If there weren't copyright issues, I usually would just insert that part of the song right through this. Who's listening? No East Coast. I thought about that recently, too. I'm like, should I just start playing whatever the hell I want during the break? Other podcasts. You can do whatever you want. You're not selling anything, so you probably would get away with it. We know. But that's like, so here's the money. Yeah, we're not getting money for anything. Here's the funny thing about the whole using music. So I was in Vegas once, and I. Once.
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many times but I not my bachelor party but when I was there I was at Fremont Street and I was they if you've ever been to Vegas Tony hasn't I used to live there oh yeah double barrels in Vegas great so Fremont Street now has like the big over the overhang on the street that's all like lit up and it's you know just this amazing like light show that they do at night and they always like feature different bands and stuff like that and I forget who it wasn't I was there I know it was like Tom Petty or something like that
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and i was filming the entire thing not the entire thing but like five minutes of it and i was like this is awesome and i posted it on facebook it's like you don't know the copyright to this music so whoa you can't post this and i'm like fuck yourself that's weird there's other people that post stuff to facebook but then i noticed
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in their comments or whatever. I do not. I don't own the copyright to this music. And it's like, oh, so that makes it legal? I guess so. Obviously, Brandon Windinger from Chicago does not own the copyrights to Tom Petty music. You don't? Oh, no. Why are we even from this? Not if it was The Beatles. I stole that shit from Michael Jackson, Fair and Square. See, that's when you insert the. Mine was perfect. I think it was in there.
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But anyway, so we're back here and it is, by the time this is being released, it'll be March 2nd, which, March is Women's History Month.

Balancing Birthday Celebrations and Mom Duties

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And my birthday month. Oh, that's right, and your birthday month. I celebrate the whole month. Happy early, well then, just happy birthday. So, that's why we're having a roundhouse. We can celebrate it for one day and not talk to her all of March. Yep.
00:03:57
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I'm joking! Aren't you going out for your birthday? Yeah, I'm going to be on my birthday. I don't have enough energy to celebrate you for an entire month. Look, there's a process to this. The reason why I do it the whole month is because I give the other months to being a mom. So come March 1st, I cut off the kid. I just go shopping. I go shopping for myself. I treat myself. And she knows the whole month of March, do not ask for shit.
00:04:23
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No food, no water, no clothes. Figure it out. Nothing school related, no. I've got this project. Too damn bad. Sorry, you shouldn't pick them up in April. It's March. Get out of my life. Oh my god. I'm not a mom in March.
00:04:40
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Most people, most other people are celebrating March Madness the entire month of March. I'm, I'm not one of those. No, and that was a basketball person. Oh, Vito's getting mentioned in the podcast. Hey, he's never listened to a single episode, probably. So, cause he doesn't care about beer. Yeah. Like, so we were at a 40th birthday party and the guy was at telling us, Oh, we take this day off this Friday off, like every year. He's like, you got to come out to Addison, Illinois and get drunk. I'm like, why the hell would I do that? Cause then I have to come home to Chicago.
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And that means I have to take a day off work to go drink with you. Not that I have a problem really drinking with him, drinking in Madison, Illinois on a Friday when I don't give a shit about March Madness. They found a bar that they really like. There's like giant Jenga and there's like a whole bunch of TVs. And I'm sure it's a lot of fun. Like I like the people that all go. I just I'm not just like Brandon. You know, I don't have the
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I'm not interested in taking a full day off for that. I might do a half day. I might do a half day and go down there, but we'll see. I mean, I'm taking off a day to go drink. It's going to be somewhere awesome. Yeah. Yeah, that makes more sense. Like, you know, if you want to take a day trip someplace or there's something going on in a brewery. Like, I'm taking the day off that Sunday after my birthday. So what is your official birthday? My birthday is 3-12, 3-1-2. Oh, nice. That's pretty cool. 3-1-2-day, so. Do you drink a 3-1-2 on 3-1-2?
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You know, Goose has always been so funny because they know who runs the Goose social media. Her birthday is also for March 12th. Did you guys get together and drink $6.24? I told her I... You know what? So I'm debating if I'm actually going to take off the date of my birthday, so I can start my drinking early. Nice. I didn't take my... I took the Monday or the Friday after my birthday off this year. It was nice.
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Did you take the day after the Super Bowl? No, I should have this year. I should have. You usually always do. I know. It was the first year I didn't. It was the first year I was incredibly hungover. Everybody at work was hungover. So it felt nice. Did you go to Jeff's house? I did. I went to Jeff. Jeff's next door. And I drank my lager. TFTI.
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And you were here with your wife and son. Yeah, it was awesome when we hung out. Cheering for the Chiefs. Got some pizza from Maryse. That was awesome. That sounds good.

Women's Roles in the Beer Industry: Niche or Not?

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So yeah, so it's Women's History Month. And what better person to talk to than you, Shalanda, about it? Because I am a woman. Well, you are a woman. That is correct. And we have a beer podcast. And I think we said this last time you were on that we would maybe revisit this topic in March for Women's History Month about women and beer. And I'm going to tell you something, number one.
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I'm ignorant to it. I am so, I spent last night, now let me explain, by the way, what I meant by I'm ignorant to it. I'm waiting, I'm listening. I'm waiting, I gotta take the glasses off. I saw it look on your face like, excuse me? I haven't said the glasses. What I mean that is that I,
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My knowledge of women in beer is that, number one, women were the creators of beer. I'm talking like 7,000 years ago. And Gazi. Mesopotamia. And wait, what did you just say? And Gazi. Oh, Gazi, sorry. I thought you said something else. Am I missing something?
00:07:56
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Ooh, Brandon's getting a text. So I know that, alewives, because they were cooking, and so preparing beer was also seen as a part of that, so they became the brewers. And then my knowledge kind of just goes by the wayside, because after the Industrial Revolution, men took over, and that's been it, and only now
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Not only now and we're gonna drink a new Belgian fat tire at some point, but only now really is it kind of becoming Because even last night I was looking up articles and I was on YouTube trying to find like videos And it was always the way the video was presented was kind of like this like little niche a niche Like oh look at this woman. She started her own brewery instead of it being like oh here's
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you know, this city's first female owned and operated brewery. It's kind of just like a shit piece for some news outlet. Right. So here in Chicago we have, we're lucky, we've got Aeris, Aeris Cider and Brewery, which is owned by, oh man. Michelle Foyke. Thank you, man. I tried remembering that name all day. She's so cool. Hey, how do you do?
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Because I'm lame, man. I met at a cider fest last year, and I thanked her for bringing Eris. And I was like, yeah, this is one of the reasons why I'm here. And she's like, oh, yeah, go to the other places, too. I'm like, I'm sorry. I'm just giving you praise right now. Yeah, so we had my son's baptism at Eris. They hooked us up with their mezzanine. And we bought a bunch of food and everything, but it was just awesome. Michelle came up during that time, too, and said hi and everything. But my whole family was like,
00:09:44
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This place is awesome. Like why? Where did you find this? I know Michelle for a long time, like through like various connections and like, you know, Fishman's and, you know, but the cool thing about it, so is if for folks that are listening, if you have not been to Eris, the building is awesome because it is an old Masonic temple.
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which I'm also an Eastern star. Well, I haven't been active in years, but when I seen that, I was like, what? Are you kidding me? Yeah. And it's like, I wanted my uncle to go, but he, for some reason they didn't go because he's like a grandmaster Mason. Oh wow. He used to run, I think the lodge at Wilson and Ashland, that building just got torn down. And I think he was up in Jeff Park here too. Is that building still active? Yeah.
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Yeah, but like, yeah, I wanted him to come because I don't think he knew, but it's cool because when you walk in, like the safe is there and it's got the huge Masonic label on

Spotlight on Eris Cider and Brewery

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it. And then just kind of going off on a tangent. A weird thing that I saw in the internet the other day, there was a couple from San Diego that was
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vacationing in indiana and while they were vacationing they saw they were looking just they loved the area in indiana where they were it was not like anywhere like gary or something like that you know i saw a question near gary i think who vacation in indiana i think they had somebody had family there is that what you were about to say when you said so i think they i think they had family there and they so they were kind of going around the area
00:11:16
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And they were looking, they were like, I think they were kind of contemplating moving back to being near family. And so they were kind of just cruising the neighborhood looking for places for sale when they saw this giant building that took up an entire block with a for sale sign on it. And as a joke, they called and asked about it.
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and the real estate agent gave them a tour. It was like a three floor plus a basement Masonic temple that was for sale and they bought it and they converted it into a single family home. Like the basement has like a like a performance stage and like a giant like 12 burners still like whatever. It's like a massive like, you know, um,
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like a catering kitchen like in the basement and like there's a huge auditorium like on the top floor that they use for movies and out for their kids. And I'm like, this is amazing. That's why you vacation in Indiana. And it was like a hundred and some thousand dollars or something. They paid for it. I mean, they had to renovate the entire place, but I'm like, that's awesome. I would love to get a piece of it. Wow. That's interesting. Well, we'll get them on the show next. Can we get a tour of your house?
00:12:21
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next week on the Mason's hour. I gotta come back with that one. We got the math hour, Mason's hour, Malting hour, all the M's. We were talking about Eric's. Yeah, we were talking about Eric's. I agree. Even if you're not in Chicago, if you're in Chicago and you haven't gone there yet, you should definitely check it out.
00:12:44
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I'm gonna go on record in saying I prefer their ciders more than their beers. That's not to say that their beers aren't good considering they did win a medal, right? G-A-B-F, yeah. Was that the year we were there? Yeah, they got a medal for their New England IPA. That was the year that Chicago, the Midwest, kind of swept New England IPA category.
00:13:06
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That was awesome that we just ended up there. Yeah, let's see if we can do that again this year So he was so Tony ended up being there he had a friend that got it like offered him a ticket and They decided he decided just to fly out like what Saturday to Friday night till Sunday morning in the morning
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Like I got there at 11 p.m. Friday night and I was home by night. And he told me about it and then I was like, I'm actually going to be in Denver for work because my office is literally four blocks away from the convention center. And I was like, I can probably stay the weekend.
00:13:39
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And so we talked about it, and I got a friend that had a hookup too, so I'm not gonna know that up up there. But I had a friend that had a hookup, and like, we met up. I met Tony Friday night, like late at night. He got in, we went and had a drink. That's what I told you when we were having a kid. Yeah, I was pretty excited about that. And then we, yeah, so then we ended up at the next day at Great American Beer Festival. That was awesome. I was supposed to go last year, and I had
00:14:09
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2019. Yeah, I had airfare covered. I had the tickets and everything covered because one of the wives of the birds or whatever, she's wanting me to come and do her makeup, which was cool. And at the time, okay, cool. I'll come do your makeup. Sounds good. I'm getting flown out to GABF. Cool.
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But again motherhood kicked in because my kid had a homecoming that weekend. I think you told the story. I was so hurt like I love my kids like damn I can't go. Free trip to GAPF and I can't go. Yeah we're getting stories already. We're gonna see. Yes old age kid. I was like you're telling this and I'm like we must have talked about us going too so.
00:14:53
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I'm gonna, I did talk to that same person who got me in last year. I talked to them in December. He's going again. Hazy details, hazy details. Maybe we'll end up there and be able to actually record and talk to a brewery. I'm gonna be there. I'll be in Paris. I was gonna say, you can be there. Maybe we can go to Paris. You gonna do something in Paris? I'm supposed to be in Paris, you know.
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Man we are so far off topic at this I know
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Yeah. So, um, so what era started, um, I mean, I think they're the entire format that they had promoted was like, it's going to be a cider house. Um, I knew beer was always going to be part of it. Like it's a secondary thing, but like their folk main focus was cider. Right.
00:15:59
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And when they first opened, it was just cider and I knew they were brewing at the time too. But man, like they knocked it out of the park with the centers. And I know, like, didn't you say like the blush is your favorite? The van van mojo is my favorite. Yeah, that's like the blueberry. The blush. I like the blush. It's pretty good. Yeah, the blush is good. I think the van van mojo also is the one that is they dry hopped with.
00:16:23
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a C-hop. I don't remember which one, but it's... I could be wrong about this. I haven't been over this since the summer, but I'm definitely going to be bouncing around, um, don't win this month, you know? I just, I just got invited to a bachelor party next month that is taking, uh, also a part of it's going to be an era, so I'm looking forward to that.
00:16:43
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I'll take off. Take off, Mike. Take the break. One of those. No, just my buddy, my buddy, Steve. Actually, Steve's band has been one of the the guests, musical guests. So what are we drinking right now, though? Oh, yeah, we are drinking. Oh, did you do you have that? Did you pull it up or did you know? I know I said I was going to. I was a big fat lie. We are drinking heiress beer right now. Beer, not cider. Yeah. Thanks for going to get it, Brandon, today.
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Shouts out, Michelle. Yeah,

Beer Inspired by Women's History

00:17:11
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no joke. This is tasty. I almost thought about saying, hey, let's do a cider. I'm glad we didn't. So I asked you to get Ella. So Ella, the reason I was looking at their beers, and this one is, it says, inspired by historical research into women's involvement with the hop harvest in the 1800s Wisconsin. Single hop brew, correct to the era, featuring cluster hops, English alleys, and caramel malt. And it's 5.5 ABV.
00:17:38
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Excuse me, I'm... Yeah, actually, give it a... Oh yeah, full... This is the Might Meets Right episode all over again. I sound so angry in that episode. Passing around the can. I always got three ounce pours. Everybody else got big pours. That's cool. My 20 bucks, now in the rain, I guess.
00:18:01
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All right, let's give this a sip. We've already kind of been... Yeah, I get it. Well, now we can actually talk about it. I mean, second glass. I mean, let's talk about women in beer. Does that look beer? Does it be kick ass? Women rule, yeah. You guys do rule. Yeah, I don't know. We were already recording when I said this, yeah, that the YouTube videos they were watching were just like shit pieces and stuff, and there was no real information about women in beer. And maybe YouTube's not the best about it, but you could look up...
00:18:26
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Fuck, any other breweries? I can come across some Barley Angel stuff. We get an unfair assessment when it comes to women and beer because they always want to fluff pieces. They don't want to give us the nitty gritty. They don't want to talk about the women who kept the breweries open and running when doing the civil wars and all that. You don't hear about those stories. My grandmother, she used to work
00:18:48
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you know first of all let me say all my heart goes out to the middle-course family yeah what happened yesterday yeah my grandmother used to work in millers in Milwaukee for 40 years holy cow 40 years you talked about this in the last episode too damn i have a old memory we were talking about old ass beers and you had like we were talking about the cancer that you had
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boom there we go not beers but you know alcohol but sorry yes. Who actually like brew beer over the course of the years is like it they always make you seem like it's button up and pretty don't tell tell you the nitty-gritty like what we had to get to go through to get to this point right so yeah. Yeah and even now just the role that.
00:19:28
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Like I said, it almost comes off as like this gimmicky, like you said, puff piece, like this gimmicky thing when really it's just like any other job that it's just happens to also be done by a woman. I'm not taking that away, but it's like, hey, give it the same fucking focus that you'd give any other brewery and any other person who's born a beer. Why not? It just blows my mind. It's kind of, that goes hand in hand. Beer is beer is beer.
00:19:55
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Right. It goes hand in hand with, I guess that's the shit that I don't understand. Maybe it's because, no offense dad, I was raised by my mom mainly. No, my mom was the prominent role model in my life. She was the one who always took care of me and took care of my sister. Even at that, my sister's six years older than me. To me, I've always seen women as a stronger part of my life than men were.
00:20:23
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And so that also goes with like, I'd like, so it doesn't, it doesn't make sense to me. It's confusing to me. It baffles me that like,
00:20:29
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things are separated like that. When gay marriage became an issue in Illinois and it was talked about and I remember posting something on Facebook, I'm like, this should be a non-issue. This shouldn't even be a conversation. It should just be done. I'm not trying to take away from what happened to get to gay marriage, but it's so dumb that this is a discussion. Why is this even a discussion? Why can't anybody marry who the fuck they want? And it's racism too. None of that shit makes sense to me.
00:20:55
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Well, you know, we women, we get an unfair advantage. We get blamed for everything. We get blamed for how men turn out or how they don't turn out. Like, for instance, you know, like I was a single mom for most of my parenthood, you know, and they said, oh, your kid's going to be a statistic. They're going to pop up pregnant and fell out of school.
00:21:12
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I got a kid who graduated from high school, the top of her class, and is in the Air Force. You know, like, where are those accomplishments at? Then even with women in beer,

Overlooked Contributions of Women in Brewing

00:21:21
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we talk about... See what you did? Now she's in the Air Force. I know, right? Now she's in the fucking Air Force. Now she's serving her country. Way to go.
00:21:29
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Right. How dare you do that? How dare you not be insistent? My father-in-law would be proud. He was an Air Force man. And they say, you know, you know, and then even when I talk to a lot of other women in beer, like, for instance, my tweet the other day is like, do women get the respect and beer? And I was really interested in seeing that how a lot of men weighed in and say, hey, no, you guys don't. So, OK, now that you know that we don't, then what are you going to do about it?
00:21:55
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How are you going to help this cause? Because, again, I'm a big thing about social media. It's like, don't do it. Don't make it a trend. What are you going to do outside of social media? Afterwards, yeah. After a fact. Yeah. And I guess that's where my, like, when that question, when you pose that question to me, the first thought in my head is, oh, no.
00:22:17
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And I don't know. I don't know what to do. I think that that's where I'm stuck in. I need to get maybe a little more creative and actually take some time to think about that. Supporting heiress is one way. It's one way to support. But that's the bigger thing is supporting. But it's also like, here's my crossroads that I come to.
00:22:37
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don't support because it's a woman right support because it's good good right 100 you know so you can't make that distinction and be like oh you know there's there's a clear line of like oh this woman opened up this place i'm definitely gonna try it out because like she's adventurous and trying something new and if it's great i'm gonna keep coming back you know but then there's you know those people that are just like it's a woman i'm not going to go because it's probably not good which is just
00:23:05
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Ridiculous. Like, and just Eris as the example, like, like, so when we were booking the party, they're like, we were looking at the food menu and stuff like that. And it's like, it's not like so for like the options that we had for like, not catering, but like for the party style stuff, I was just like, oh, man, it was hard to choose like what we thought people would like. But I'm like, so I picked some things that I liked and my wife liked.
00:23:31
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And I was like, the buffalo, like. Oh my god, Buffalo cauliflower. Oh man, that is so cool. I was like, I did that, I was like. Wait, the peanut butter pie. We didn't do that. Oh man, it's so good. But we didn't. We did the, like, the buffalo cauliflower and buffalo wings or whatever. I did that just because I thought that was an interesting idea.
00:23:52
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and i hadn't tried it until like towards the end of our party it was almost gone and then i was like god damn it why didn't i come over there was like that was the best flipping thing that i had in a long time like their food is phenomenal like the atmosphere is amazing is it beautiful and here's what i love about erin's it's all like the the head of each like the kitchen and all that it's all women yeah
00:24:13
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So it's like women are really kicking ass over there. And then like, that's not over the shadow of the fact, like even with, um, they haven't opened up yet, but like Leslie Roth of Inglewood

Highlighting Female-Owned Breweries in Chicago

00:24:22
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Bryn. She's going to be the first black woman to open up a ring in Chicago. They broke ground with their construction on, ran for 63rd and Halstead. So we're going to have two women owned breweries in Chicago by the summertime. North side and south side representing both sides. That's awesome.
00:24:41
Speaker
I'm joking. I'm joking. You know what? I know. No, no, no. Let's discuss this because people are not even going to say it. Well, now you just say it. Also, isn't that, isn't that near where like the HH home's house was?
00:24:55
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But here's the thing, and people look at something like this. Do they build in the murder house plot? Oh my god. They have redeveloped that area over there so much. And this is, it's like, I'm happy that they're redeveloping, but I'm also scared that they're also gentrifying.
00:25:11
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Yeah, that's the fine line. You're right, because you see where it's going. But however, what they're planning to do, they're trying to support the neighborhood as the community as much as possible, like hiring people from the community and also supporting the culinary school that's right down the street. So yeah, so. But like, give them opportunities to work. You know, but I also said, and I'm a big advocate for this, I'm not going to support you. Just like I say with my people of color, I'm not going to support you.
00:25:40
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Just because you're my people of color. If your product is not good, I'm going to talk shit about it. Yeah, and not support it. Again, it's like I'm saying, I'm not saying I just see everything clear cut, black and white. This is how it is. But it's just an afterthought for me about that. And it shouldn't. To a degree, like you were saying, outside social media, for me, it shouldn't be an afterthought in the sense of,
00:26:09
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Yeah, it's a woman owned brewery, but whatever. I'm just here to drink the beer. I'm not thinking about it. Well, no, I should, you know, you should be, you should go out there and support it if it's a good product regardless. I guess I'm more so just, I'm
00:26:24
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It's weird that in this day and age, there is no just like, it's not just cut down the middle of, oh, it's just good or bad. Not like, oh, that's owned by a man, that's owned by a woman. Oh, they're black, they're white, they're Mexican. You know, it's just, it blows my mind. And that's why like, Drew Fox at 18th Street got a lot of shit too when he first started.

Brewing Challenges in Gary, Indiana

00:26:45
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I don't know which it was first time I opened it. Yeah, me too. Like, Drew was... Dude, he was kill- like, not even kill him, but like, he was... So he was working at Pipeworks, he was just like, he was putting in his dues, like, when he could, and like, I met him a couple times, like, before he even, like, kicked off, and he was just like, I just liked to brew beer, and I'm like, alright man, I respect that.
00:27:05
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And then he opened up in Gary, of all places, and I'm like, Dude, why the fuck would you open up in Gary? And then I was like, Holy shit, you should open up in Gary because there is not, that is, that does not exist there. And it's close, it's also close enough to Chicago where if you're going, if you're going to leave out to go to Gary.
00:27:23
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especially so like go down to like if you're going down to Burman a and all those places like in some you know, like south of Chicago There's some good breweries around there like brickstone and like, you know in Tinley's got like hailstorm like all that other stuff like it's like another 20-minute drive to go over to Gary and like
00:27:40
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and now we get some kick-ass beer and now he's now he's in indianapolis he's got like three locations i'm like fuck dude i'm like when 18th street isn't that i mean it's so where's he's killing it where's where's uh three floyds and it's a monster so yeah oh no that's a monster and that's only like and he has another location in hammond and then it's like hammond and gary's what he's got yeah and then right around the corner from his 18th street location he has a sour note so you can actually see the buildings
00:28:05
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That's awesome. If Drew is killing it, then you have to distillery right next door. It's like Drew is really killing it. Clark and I have been talking about wanting to make that trip. Come on, let's go. Let's go without Clark. Sorry, Clark. Right now, let's go. Clark and I have gone up to his family as a home of at St. Joe's, and so I got to go to Greenbush and a whole bunch of other breweries up there. That was a great trip. Thanks for the invite, Clark.
00:28:29
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fan favorite Clark Fettridge. Loves beer. When I lived in the South Suburbs, I used to live exactly eight minutes from his Indiana location. I used to go straight down Sibley and be right there. I've yet to go to 18th Street. Or three Floyd's. I've never been to either one of them.
00:28:47
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Are you joking me? I'm not. That's my clock and I wanted to go. We wanted to go through Indiana, then go shoot all the way back up to Michigan and go to the police. I don't even think I know you anymore. I'm clutching my imaginary pearls right now, the fact that he says he's never been to. Do you need a robe? We've actually, because I know we talked about kind of making the trip. It's like an hour. I'm just doing it. It's not that bad. No, no, no.
00:29:17
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But you know you saw how on time I was so it's like even like when I go like when I went to Dark Lord Day Mm-hmm. My mom lives like right there in Linwood It's like perfect. It's like two minutes down the street if that Dark Lord is also another thing. I haven't done shit show. Yeah, I know it's a shit show I did it once and I did a beautiful shit show I did it once I would never do it again Although what was hilarious about it was like so the big issue about going down there It's like if you're taking yourself down there was parking and all like
00:29:47
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so we drove down there and i was like where the fuck are we gonna park blah blah blah so literally so like here's the brewery and then here's like the highway and all this stuff and then behind the brewery is like residential areas and then there was like this little valley between the residential area and the brewery and there was a street right here so we were just driving up
00:30:07
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And I was like, I want to park right here. We did. And there was a neighbor, a guy came out of his house. I'm like, oh, fuck. He's going to tell us. And he was like, hey, guys. He's like, oh, you're cool right there. Don't worry. I'm like, OK. And I was like, how did we get there? He was like, you just walked through the grass. And it was like, OK. We walked right through the grass. And here we had like 30, 40 feet from the brewery. No, probably 100 feet. Whatever. And it was really short. It was like an hour away.
00:30:34
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no but it was like literally just right right over the grass and like through this little valley luckily like there was actually like i think there's like a creek that goes through there but i'm like it wasn't that bad so we just hopped over like walked up and then all these other people were like oh my god i parked like two miles away and i was like i parked in a friend of my mom's house first of all drop me off
00:30:56
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First of all, don't drive here. Second of all, don't drive here. Like, if you are- Aren't there buses and shit that people set up to go up there? The Brew Bus used to go there, so I don't know what is, like, now there. Oh, Brew Bus. Yeah, sorry, you know. Sorry, Kevin. And Nate, you know. But yeah, I parked my car right in front of my mom's house. I said, look, I need you to drop me off over here. She did.
00:31:22
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And luckily Josh from Kinky Kinky dropped me off at her house. I wonder how some just kind of crash So would your mom be okay if I came down this year and be like she's like 50 bucks. Yeah, why does everyone charge me 50 bucks? With Nick Nick and I doubled up on some tours
00:31:42
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You can thank the city of Chicago for the demise of that. We can thank the city of Chicago for a lot of things. I did do a solo tour once too on the brew bus. I never got on the brew bus. I've never seen it drive around though. That was pretty rad. That was the buses I rented for my birthday party. That was a good time. Where I got pretty tipsy.
00:32:04
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so Kevin rented us a bus or gave us a bus and we started at like wild goose and then we went to rev then we went to or did we go to beguile first beguile beguile and then I think rev yeah and then we went out to sketchbook
00:32:19
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Yes. And that's when I didn't even go inside sketchbook because I was so drunk at that point. I stayed outside just looking like this in the window. We started at Wild Goose. We're going to go to Temperance, but we didn't end up going. No. I feel like there's more than that, though. We started at Wild Goose. Rev, we were going to go to Lagunitas, and that was just way out of the way.
00:32:41
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Well, because yeah, the original thing was to go down to 18th Street. Yeah. Which I was super excited. Wait, you guys want to go from Temperance? No, no, no. Start at 18th Street. Oh, no. Like, literally, the trip was going to be like, get on the bus. We'd go to 18th Street, drink for a little bit, and then come back. And then do what we were saying. Yeah. And then Kevin was like, you're not fucking using my bus. I can't. All right. All right. Point taken. So yeah. So we just made like a little mini tour around the neighborhood. We literally just picked breweries and did that.
00:33:09
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One thing we haven't done is talk about this beer again. We poured a second glass. Okay, let me get started. What is Ella? Ella. I gotta go.
00:33:25
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What do you guys think? What do you guys think of it? I'm glad this is the beer we ended up going with. I'm gonna start with that. Nowadays, and it's so bad because like, I want to take my sister on and it's so, it's so bad because like, I'm so scared. It terrifies me. Of doing a flavor profile because these trends throw you off. Like for instance, we're talking about imperial, imperial porter. What the fuck is this? I saw that.
00:33:48
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Which is funny because I think I think at one point I tried brewing an imperial border and I think I came Well, that's I think I came to that realization where I was like it was just a fucking stuff It doesn't say what type of beer it is I'll read it again
00:34:12
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Inspired by historical research into women's involvement with the Hop Harvest in the 1800s Wisconsin, single hop brew, correct to the era, featuring cluster hops, English pailies, and caramel malt. So, I don't know, it's almost like an amber. To me, it tastes like an amber, which is funny because... I'm looking at fancy accents everywhere.
00:34:34
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I think Amber, another random weird tangent out here, I think Amber is an unappreciated style of beer that I myself underappreciate and I don't want to drink all the time. When I have a really good Amber, it blows my mind that I'm enjoying it. Does that make sense to you guys? Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for hearing me. It's just like, what's the one that I was sent to Pedicollis Brewing Company? They're red. Oh my gosh. Pedicollis is out in Texas.
00:35:11
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It changed my whole thought process. I was like, damn. And Ambers or Red Owls? Yeah, Red Owls. I was like, damn, this is good. So it's like I've been chasing that high ever since.
00:35:20
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yeah I'm I'm I had one shit it's a it's a brewery it's a local brewery fuck I can't think about it I had it I can't think of who it is but I had it like two two years ago and I had it some bar out in like Schaumburg when I was working out that way and I saw it and I'm like I think like
00:35:37
Speaker
fire is named in it or something. But it blew my mind how awesome it was. So here's my thing is that when you get to a really good amber ale and it's like in red ales and all that, it gives you that old school taste of what beer used to be before all of these trends kicked in. For instance,
00:35:56
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wish I was kind of doing the podcast back and what I'm saying that I took the hiatus but like um I got sent a beer from mac brewing okay and I really really enjoyed this because it was that old school flavor it was like it was a IPA it was straight to the point it was crisp no bullshit just man like a
00:36:16
Speaker
This is what I'm talking about right here. That's what I had last night. I hadn't had it in a while. I started the keto diet about two weeks ago. Yeah, thanks for laughing about that. Down 10 pounds. Down 10 pounds losers. So I don't drink a lot of beer and last night, yeah, I've been drinking a lot of beer. Except for every beer he's been drinking this week. Correct. I have had two beers this week.
00:36:41
Speaker
the one I'm about to tell you about, which was Half Acres Bodum. I haven't had that in a while. It was left over for my birthday. It's funny because I feel like the last time I had it, I was like, yeah, whatever, it's piney, whatever, IPA. Then I had it last night, and the first sip I took, I was like,
00:36:58
Speaker
man, I miss just having a straight up. I love hazy IPAs. I love all the crazy shit. I love the crazy shit. I think we've talked about that, the shit that we do with French pressing, these stouts, and even all the Bourbon County variants. They're all crazy
00:37:15
Speaker
All crazy types of beers that we had. Let's have that. I've got zero. Having that beer, just like you said, crisp, citrusy, bright IPA. I tweeted, I tweeted them, and then Fager liked it. I said, you know, you're taking a, like, me taking a...
00:37:48
Speaker
Give myself a beer as like, you know to have I was very happy that that's a very nice. Nice. Oh God. How far along? How far along are we? How far along are we? See ya, Lily. See ya, Lily.

Celebrating Women's History Month

00:38:03
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Oh, little girl, it's all I'm dreaming about. Hey, Brincy. Love you, Robin. Sweet, sweet, sweet. Rock and Robin. Sweet.
00:38:10
Speaker
Oh, we're walking around because we're really going to rock tonight. You know, I remember the hood version when we used to play. 38 minutes. Oh, great. Is this going to be another hour and a half episode? Can we top the Clark episode of Temperance Beers?
00:38:26
Speaker
Wait a minute, hold on, how long was my last episode? It's like an hour and 20. So when you're around, we just keep on going. I do have music for this episode. It's actually, you can go ahead and do what you're doing. I can talk about this for a second, Brandon. Actually, he sent me a text. So there are no strangers to this show. If you remember the group, as I like to call them, Elias D.
00:38:51
Speaker
But it's LSD ELL is space D Mike Kelly who I work with he is What high school with a Mike Kelly to the same I can't This Mike he's a producer he's the producer of all the beats for fuck you Brandon LSD beats
00:39:15
Speaker
I asked him if he had some music for me that I could use and he gave me some instrumentals and I chose this one that I actually don't know which one I chose until I'm editing it. But he sent me two. I like them both.
00:39:30
Speaker
And Brandon's cracking open the next beer for us, which is... Fat Tire. Fat Tire, New Belgium. And we talked about that briefly before we started, I think the show was that... Damn, they sold. They sold, but it was employee-old, so that means all those employees got money too. It wasn't just... You know what? I'm not knocking anybody getting a coin, because honey, I need my coins as well. I'm not knocking anybody who decides to sell...
00:39:53
Speaker
The brewery, I'm sorry. There's a lot of things that I'm just like, you know, I used to get really upset about that shit, like selling out. If you promote yourself as someone who's never going to do it, and then you do it, then I got an issue. I have to be honest with you. If I had been in the brewery for like 20 something years, and I know, I've been in the brewery for like 20 something years, and somebody said, hey, ABC, we want to buy your brewery for a billion dollars. That's why I'm like, deuces. Yeah. I'm going to sell it too. I'm going to be honest with you. You did your thing. You left your mark. I did my thing.
00:40:20
Speaker
You know, and I probably would use, I would say I would probably use some of that money to help the next person get started. Yeah, and I wouldn't mind doing something else, like... Oh! Meet that! We're keeping that in! Alright, um... You know what, let's go to the break and we'll talk about this. We're going to drink Fat Tire when we come back. Bye! Bye! I'm not stopping, just keep going and going and going!
00:41:22
Speaker
Was a criminal crapping, dreams of raising sex I grew up ahead of stop, cause why they have it just in mind? That's the day I realized it Demonized me deep inside, feeding on these demon vibes And how fucking high am I? Shit be smoking on my own supply I'm just out here grinding, trying to get my fucking piece of the pot And they will come my day to hear my music again Fucking tonight, so sorry before they cliche I know you hear on replay I just want straight images for you to go and relay I know I'm out of my mind and you may never have to rewind Cause this is probably the last time that you hear this rhyme
00:41:55
Speaker
That's the day I realize that's why we all get high to escape the coming times
00:42:20
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They said my head was in the clouds But it was in the heavens trying to scale me out of ten But I was in eleven, they said I couldn't do it But now I see them sweating when they come back around See how much they be forgetting, leaving holes in plot lines But see how I plot mine, light did it, set the chemo down one time Feeling good cause I know through me got shine And I know that'll get me through these hard times You know long I've been on the grind
00:42:45
Speaker
A motherfucking lifetime You know how long I been tryna shine A motherfucking lifetime Man I'm hung up on it still
00:42:58
Speaker
life ain't free, and you gotta pay a bill. I wonder how many lives are living satisfied, where they reach their potential, or meet their demise. I wonder how many lives have I seen with my eyes, trying to see the real, but they're peeking in the skies now. Elevate, celebrate, cause it might get too late, you don't want to hesitate now. Elevate, celebrate, don't hesitate cause the love you might
00:43:47
Speaker
Dinner still? What type is your reservation at? I mean, the place on close is like 12. Okay, I'm sorry. I really have reservations. It's like, okay, we're just gonna go get something to eat after. All right, we got this. Ready? And we're back! And we are now drinking New Belgium's Fat Tire. Thanks, Mike, for the beat. It was great. Did he know what? It's good.
00:44:12
Speaker
You'll find LSD on ELISD, Spotify, Apple, iTunes. They're on Facebook. They're also on Instagram. And Mike's a funny guy. I haven't met his counterpart. You're laughing so hard that you read. It's funny.
00:44:30
Speaker
So, it's not high blood pressure. This beer is very similar to the last beer. Yes. That was my first thought. I'm sure anybody... I was confused. I took a sip and I'm like, wait, I thought we switched. I'm like, oh yes, we did. We did. We did. We did switch. I remember the first time I had Fat Tire and I was kind of blown away by it because it was, again, it was around the time when I was drinking, you know, High Life. That was my, that was it. High Life and PBR because I was broke.
00:44:58
Speaker
Can I make a confession? This is my first time having a fat tire. Seriously? Yeah it is. Holy shit! Wow! It is. It's my very first time having a fat tire. Why?
00:45:11
Speaker
I have no idea! Do you not support women in the mirror? ZING! You know what? You don't supposed to be in a good one. Let's go drink that Devil Bear, I'll see you later, Brandon. Honestly, to be honest with you, I'm being 100 complete. The first time I had a new Belgian beer was last year at Fresh Fest, when they did a collaboration with Elle shopping with piano keys.
00:45:39
Speaker
Oh. Interesting. Yeah. How was that? It was good. It was really good. I was like, Oh, okay. New Belgium was one of the, once I got turned on to some craft beer early on, before I was like really into it, you know, we've talked, we've discussed, we're not going to love the history of our craft beer again. But New Belgium was, was one of the ones where I used to buy the mix. I used to get six packs of
00:46:04
Speaker
Fuck, what was it? A wheat beer. Shit, they don't make it anymore. When they do their 12 packs, they'll do like a throwback. Skinny Dip, I think it was a wheat beer and it was fucking awesome. Anytime that pops up back in the 12 packs, their mixed pack and they like do a throwback beer, that's one of the ones that I always go for because it's like a, I remember being a very like citrusy wheat beer.
00:46:30
Speaker
I'm a fan of that shit. So this is your first fat tire, what do you think? It's, it's, it's, it's drinkable. It's not something you're going back to the store to go and grab.
00:46:42
Speaker
No. Yeah. I mean, it is the straightforward amber beer. And I think for the time that it came out, there wasn't a lot of, when you're getting red, any type of red ale is probably killing an Irish red. And that's about it. I think what happens is like, if you look at this amber ale for me, like, again, we talked about this earlier, Pedicol is kind of like, did it for me, because it's like, it was
00:47:04
Speaker
so amped up and it was like, man, that was a damn good beer. So, and I'm not knocking on Belgium, you know. Sellouts. But, I mean, it's drinkable, you know, it's just a drinkable beer. I'll be honest, this is probably the first six pack of Fat Tower I bought in a long time as well.
00:47:24
Speaker
Every now and then I'll get, I actually still have, I got their winter mix pack because there's a couple in there that I like. I like all their other beers more than Fat Tire. Did we do Fat Tire in one of the? Episodes. The winter episode? I think so. I don't know. We're getting to the point now where we've done so many episodes, Brandon, where I can't keep it all straight unless Yolanda's retelling a story for the fourth time.
00:47:48
Speaker
You know what, whatever, let me live through my little four stories and my three podcast jokes with my double barrel, okay? Two. Hey, Shlenda, have you ever gotten a green American beer face?
00:48:04
Speaker
No, but I was a prop. They got a prop. I got a double barrel. You guys remember prop day That was a lot of fun other than me knocking into a barrel really that that was a good time Yeah, yeah, it was really Did you hear what happened with the recordings? Yeah, I remember and I hate that I couldn't come no. Yeah, that's right No, we I was bummed because it was so much fun that day was so much. It was a lot of fun. I
00:48:28
Speaker
That was the beginning of the rosacea that I got on my nose, because there's a picture of me and you, where I'm like, I'm gonna fucking root off the red-nosed reindeer. I had an awful picture of you from that day. Clark had a lot of fun that day. Didn't you, Clark? You son of a bitch. And his wife, apparently now, Jessica, who, that was one of the parts of the interview I really wanted, was her review of Bourbon County and,
00:48:53
Speaker
prop because she had never had it before. And when they bought their allotment, I was just like, okay, well, Clark's got, you know, four bottles of prop now and two double barrels. It's good for him. From what he's told me, I think that now his wife is like.
00:49:08
Speaker
We should have that prop. He's like, oh, it's not just mine anymore. Oh no. I still have the prop. I still have the prop now. No, can we reflect on this day real quick? Because I wasn't here to kind of. Sure, we can take it back. We're not walking away from women's history. Right. Can we reflect on how we, Brandon and I, told you to get the beer? Yeah, we already know. No, I wasn't here for that one. If anybody listened to John's second episode,
00:49:37
Speaker
where she gives a pretty good rundown at the end of her episode about how I fucked up and didn't buy it. She called me out, fine. No, I know. I didn't call you out because you asked a question. I did. You're right. You didn't call me out. I threw myself in front of the bus. Or in front of the train. I chewed you. But you know, I had a cafe diolia at Uppers and Downers on Sunday. So they did the fresh version of that. It was actually pretty good.
00:50:06
Speaker
That's the one I've had the most. My cousin brought it over. You still find it in stores. I actually really, I was surprised how close Brandon and I got to it when we did the episode prior to prop day and we made our own just based on what we saw in the ingredients. We got pretty damn close. Yeah.
00:50:22
Speaker
I like that one a lot. Cousin Paul has a couple that I'm thinking I'm just going to buy from him because he does not like coffee. And I'm like, ah, the coffee's subtle. But because he doesn't like coffee, it is not subtle for him at all. I drink coffee all the time. So for me, the coffee's like, oh, there it is. There's some coffee. But I'm really tasting the orange in the cinnamon. So I asked the employee at Uppers and Diners, I said, this is really just meant I want your coffee, isn't it? She wouldn't answer me. I was like, don't worry. I already know. Yeah.
00:50:56
Speaker
Yeah, I still have the two bottles of prop left I haven't I haven't cracked into either one of them I was gonna do one for Christmas with Mike but we decided to we ended up just drinking like we shared two 12 ounce beers I did I did New Year's Eve on Christmas
00:51:13
Speaker
That's kind of where I was going to go with, but now I'm like, yeah, we're going to open up the other devil bear from my birthday. Let me know. Welcome back. No, sorry. I know. My sister used to live in radish park.
00:51:30
Speaker
Clark, can I have some of your dough there? You can have my kid and my dog, but I might have a barrel. Both of them, hilarious. Tony's an empty nester now. You can make a kid in the dog. Yeah, sure, take the kid in the dog. Spring Break is starting. My kid starts, well, when this episode's out, she's already been home for three days. So she gets Spring Break early, and that's it. She's home for the week. So my girl, she was about to go up. She's a sister. It's like I'm a baby.
00:52:00
Speaker
You hear that, Mackenzie? She's a little brown since you're coming. And then they can do, and then, are you okay? Don't die, Tony, don't die. And then my daughter can do another video of what it's like to be in your household. It's gonna be pretty straightforward. He's like, Tony was always in the basement. It was sad. Why am I dying because of all these plants in here?
00:52:25
Speaker
Watch your severe allergies to the split plants. Oh my god. Laura, my wife, we have so many plants. My niece counted plants inside and out over the summer and it was at 100. I can't do it. I have fake plants because I think I'll kill them. I'm going to give it a try. My daughter has talked about me. I said, look, you did good to live this long. OK? You did. I did good to get one kid out of the house and you're still alive and this dog is still alive and you want to be the adult plants. What is that?
00:52:52
Speaker
Anybody, if you're not following, uh, Shalana, um, how did I follow you? Is it ABC? It's the best way. Aphrobitchic on Twitter, um, and Instagram, and, and Facebook. Now, we're friends on Facebook now. Yeah. By the way, thanks for the friend request felt real special when I saw it. I was like, oh, look at that.
00:53:11
Speaker
I'm cool Thank you now are the videos of your dog your dog Is that was that on Twitter? I saw that Facebook where Riley was getting sprayed. What is that spray?
00:53:23
Speaker
Riley loves the spray. Riley is just the spray that like the little lavender spray that they would normally spray after they'd been groomed. Riley sees the bottle and he gets excited. Yeah, I noticed that. And he goes and lay down and like, okay, I'm gonna get sprayed. I'm so happy. Riley was all over it. That was hilarious. So people don't know it's like Riley is an eight month old golden retriever. He's a little adorable for like an asshole.
00:53:46
Speaker
sleeping in your shower, trying to put you in your bed. Aw, man, let me tell you, I cannot get in my shower. Whenever I go, Rolly's laying there in my shower, like, dude, I need to just get your bed. You know what? We'll just do an episode. I think it'll just come on, like, maybe every five episodes, where I just review your social media posts. How's that? We'll do that. Wait, so Liz, you know Liz Garabay? So my daughter has
00:54:08
Speaker
try to convince me like mom we need to give Raleigh a birthday party. I've never given a pet a birthday party ever. I saw that from you. So she's like we can just go to the dog the dog part. Liz was like no let's give him a birthday party and Metropolitan Brewing and it's going to be awesome. So she's. Which I've never been to. I still haven't been to Metropolitan. Right so we're going to give Raleigh his first birthday party and Metropolitan Brewing. When's that happening?
00:54:30
Speaker
His birthday is actually June 17th, he'll be a year old, so we're gonna do it that following weekend, so like the twins, so Liz can be there. I think we should go, Brandon, and record something. I just want to record everything. Everything that I do in my life, I'm like, you know what, fuck it, set it up, set up the mics, let's do this. I'm hanging out with my friend Phil on Saturday, and we do this thing where we drink bourbon and listen to vinyl records. That's me, did you see my post about that? Which one, no, when?
00:54:59
Speaker
Another day I was drinking on Uncle Nears and I was looking through Ebony magazine that happened in 1960s. Yes, yes, I saw that post. Yes, and I thought about it and I was like, oh man, that'd be really funny if I just said the mics, because Phil's really, Phil kind of reminds me of Pat.
00:55:16
Speaker
So if we had Pat and Phil and me and you and we sat there and drank bourbon, I would listen and put records on all day. I have an awesome vinyl collection. I have a pretty good vinyl collection as well. I'm rebuilding it. I used to have like hundreds upon hundreds of records and I moved so much that I had to get rid of those. I have a lot of vinyl suits that I wear. Great.
00:55:38
Speaker
Where you going to dinner tonight? Onward in Rogers Park. Onward? So that's where we're going. You guys mind if we tag along? He's a long way from it. But you're there. You don't understand where I'm coming from. You're not a cookie. I already cooked. Like you ain't gotta eat. Like we want him overeats.
00:56:06
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Cause my daughter like, mom, what are you cooking tonight? What do you want more eats? What do you feel like having? Cause you can have whatever you like.
00:56:15
Speaker
Oh, man. It's always fun to have you on this show. Thank you. It's always fun being here. You guys are hilarious. You guys have to come up to my apartment. Right. We got mics we can bring, too. Yes, please, because my mics are on. No, I thought your mic sounds good. Everything sounds good. Everything sounds good on your show. Congratulations, by the way, on getting your podcast up and running. You guys don't have a barking dog.
00:56:39
Speaker
No, he's got a kid, but that's why we shoot for the lateness. If we do it at my house, nobody can walk above me, because you can hear that we've got the old wooden floors. I hear everything that happens. My mother-in-law is about to stay with me. She just had hip surgery. And the guest room is right underneath where the TV is downstairs in the basement. And I've got this old school fucking mixer and speakers that I don't need to have it that loud.
00:57:09
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but I always had it loud. You can't hear it on the second floor, but Jane, you're in for a surprise. They sent me three hours to record my show last night, because Raleigh was barking. I was like, damn it! Shut up! See? If you just edit it, it'd be fine. No, we edit. If you hit the barking, hit the barking. One day, I tried to convince Stephanie that she needs to start a podcast network, because I know so many people have podcasts now that if we just all came together and had our own network and started making money for ourselves,
00:57:38
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it would be probably the greatest business venture that I could be a part of. How's that? That was my pitch for the night. There you go. It's about the beer. I know. I'm not saying that. Look, you gotta have money for the beer. Yeah, that's what I want. I want us to be able to be like, hey, we're doing this. The show is sustaining itself. Oh, we are taking that trip for

Supporting Women: Quality Over Gender?

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October. Oh, yes. That's why I sell t-shirts. I have my paycheck for my kid, and then I sell the t-shirts for my beer habit.
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Damn, that's smart. How much are your shirts? Like 25 bucks. Can I get for five? No. I tried for five dollars in a double barrel.
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I don't have a tension. I don't have a double barrel to give up for it's Not just a guaranteed yes, it's just we could talk Bullshit we can't if you give me a prop I give you two shirts You're probably
00:58:44
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I said I'm going to split the one with you anyway. We kind of got away from the whole women's role in beard history and I don't want to cut. I'm not ending. We're not ending. How far are we? Fifty-five minutes. You've got to go soon anyway. I do want to revisit this conversation. It needs to be a conversation that needs to
00:59:05
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To be had as you said, you know, I can't just can't I can't I'm seeing on myself out here Can't just post something on social media and go. Nope. I did my shit. Yeah, you didn't You know keep supporting. I just Glad you came on and we got to talk a little bit about this. I just like having you on in general It's just fun. It's a fun. It's a fun time And Brad and I just have a good drinking buddies. Yeah Yeah, I feel like most of the guests that we've had are
00:59:34
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Actually, I think all the guests that we've had on the show, anybody that comes on, it's just kind of become what I think you and I originally talked about, which was just sitting around talking and drinking beer. That's kind of all I wanted to do. And we happen to talk about the, you know, there are subtopics to the episode as well. Yeah, because we didn't like, well, with New Belgium, we didn't dive too much into the woman and beer thing, like, you know. Because they sold out. Ooh. That's where I put in Real Big Fish sell out.
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I mean, I'm not knocking them. Congrats to them getting their money. They're not exactly women owned anymore. Right? And the employees that had been a part of it, they're also getting their share because it's employee owned. So everybody's getting their money from that, the sound of that. Well, kids.
01:00:27
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Shalanda, thank you again for coming on. Yeah, thanks, man. Appreciate it. Afro Beer Chick. ABC. Hey. You want to plug all your stuff again real quick? Oh, wait. You like how I just did this and you're just going to plug your stuff? Thank you. So if you want to catch me, catch me at afrobeerchick.com. Catch me outside. AfroBeerChick.com on Twitter, AfroBeerChick, Facebook, AfroBeerChick. But also on the plug, we have two I Am Craft Beer Meetups coming up.

Upcoming 'I Am Craft Beer' Meetups

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There you go. So we have the first one in.
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Milwaukee at the Firminatorial Barre House that's coming up March 15th from 1 to 5 p.m. Is that a Sunday? Yes, that is a Sunday. And that's in the state of Milwaukee? No, state of Milwaukee. What time are you in? Milwaukee, Wisconsin from 1 to 5. I'll make the trip out there, maybe. Maybe. That's a hard maybe for me. Yeah, that's a one-day trip for me, too. So come drink with us. And then also in the
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April 5th. I'll be in St. Louis with St. Kachif. We're going to do a whole I'm Craft Fair meet up there. Libby is working hard behind the scenes doing a pop up shop with minority owned, not boys, but minority owned shops for that one. That's awesome. Well, we'll continue to plug that as well on here and let people know. Make sure, I'll get information from you. Follow me some for some birthday drinking as well. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we'll have a double barrel together one day.
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Yours. One day. Oh, man. Well, it's always fun to have you on. This is a great episode. See you now. Brandon. See you. I'm thinking about you. Tony, man. And everybody have a good, women's, life. Yeah, good life. And remember to celebrate all the women in your life this month and every month for Women's History Month. Brandon, I love you. Love you too, Tony. And we'll see you guys next time.