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Speaker: All right. Please. All right. Oh, go ahead. Tell your joke. Oh, OK. So a conspiracy theorist ah dies and goes to heaven, ah ostensibly because none of the conspiracies that he believes in are are that sinful. And then he it goes up to God and God's like, all right, welcome to heaven. You can ask me any question and I'll answer it. And then he says, all right, God, who really killed JFK?
Speaker: And God goes, it was Lee Harvey Oswald, and he acted alone. And the conspiracy theorist goes, wow, this goes even higher than I thought.
Speaker: So what do you guys think of that? Do you think you could write a better punchline to that? I think it's i think it's a really well -constructed joke, and I don't think I could write a better punchline. I could i could write a silly or punchline, maybe. Yeah, I do think that the construction of it is not up for debate. It's extremely well -constructed.
Speaker: Right. And it even says something even says something about our our relationship with with you know conspiracy and God. You also don't know need that much background on theology or the assassination. You just need to know who the guys are. What does it say though? I'm curious too. It says, isn't that funny?
Speaker: It says... It's the message of every joke. It imparts this message of ha ha ha. That's kind of what it says about the joke. I think what it says is that... Jokes inform you what's amusing and what isn't. If it's in a joke, then... If someone says, I have a joke and they tell a joke, even if you don't laugh, you will laugh at jokes like that in the future because they've just trained you.
Speaker: Yeah. oh they've got your new neal They've given your neural network something to chew on for the next time. Speaking of your conspiracy joke, your little conspiracy joke, here's a question from ah reddit r slash conspiracy.
Speaker: Nobody is asking this question. After decades of the satanic Hollywood pedophiles running shop, why shed light on it now? Did he Epstein Epstein? Weinstein. Epstein. Weinstein. Weinstein. Epstein. Epstein. Epstein.
Speaker: Diddy and those two guys and many others, it's almost common knowledge. Almost. Those who tried to join Hollyweird rejected it and have talked about. And you mean to tell me the alphabet agencies who spy on people didn't know about it? So why shut it down now? Why expose it to the uninformed? What changed? I'm going with ELE type shit.
Speaker: That means ah extinction level event type shit. World ending or world changing type shit, or maybe the Lord slash the other dimensional being is going to flood the world again and reset the board again. If you don't believe in that, just look past the distraction because something obviously is going on, something big. I don't believe in coincidences. Everything happens for a reason. The why. The why. Nobody is asking this question.
Speaker: So what was the question? The question is why are pedophiles, why are the most powerful pedophiles in the world now being discussed? Silence. Why are they being silenced? Why can't we hear them out? They're not mad about what the pedophiles have done.
Speaker: Well, I think they think that the this was a secret. Why is it now not a secret? Because when it was a secret, it wasn't it was intentionally a secret. Now it feels like it's intentionally not a secret. So right. Everything happens for a reason. There's no coincidences. Do you guys is it just me or is like.
Speaker: i I don't think that having sex with children... I don't think that the most powerful people having sex with children is can lead to an extinction level event. I feel like that's just... Yeah, it's really it's quite evil, but I don't know if it's um if it's charged energetically enough to like cause volcanoes to erupt. Does that make sense?
Speaker: Well, I think I think it's for these people, it's just a symptom. This is what people do when they're really stressed out. This is what the human race does when it's really stressed out. is Yeah, it's it's it's powerful. People start start.
Speaker: Diddling kids and stuff like that. Yeah. Why are the secret masters who control everything behind the scenes hurting pedophiles that Doesn't make sense That doesn't make they must be like I guess they're fighting maybe two different in fighting Yeah, which is bad news. Obviously, it's bad news that we're all controlled by, um you know, these rulers, these puppet masters in the shadows. But it's even worse when two sects of puppet masters start attacking each other. What does that what does that mean? Yeah, I want it to be. Oh, you go ahead. I was just going to say, I want them to be like Jim and Pam, not Jim and Dwight. They're acting more like Jim and Dwight, the puppet masters. Which one do you think is the the abusers?
Speaker: Uhh... Probably Jim, right? He's the one that was always doing pranks on Dwight. I mean, that seems like more of an abusive - Poor innocent Dwight. He was mean -spirited. He was mean -spirited. I mean, he always had schemes. He would have a secret from Dwight, and then he would tweak Dwight. There were no kids on that show, right? There were no kids on the show. In fact, that's interesting. That's a good point. The show ended when Jim got Pam pregnant. It's a black as soon as she tested positive.
Speaker: No, but he was able to staple Dwight's penis to his leg. He was able to feed Dwight, you know, crickets and stuff like that. He stole Dwight's sperm to impregnate Pam. And now Dwight has to pay child support for the rest of his life. Yeah, because of a loophole. Yeah, she got pregnant through a loophole. He had to be.
Speaker: Or he had to kind of bust through he had to come or it had to go through loophole before reaching her. Yeah. The whole situation was a loophole. Jim stole Pam from her original boyfriend, Roy or Ray or something like that. Yeah. This big brute of a man, ignorant man, a simple man, easy to be tricked. He tricked that man out of Pam and then tricked Pam into love with him. How did he trick Roy again? He like, he made a cardboard cut out of Pam or something. And he still thinks he's with Pam to this day, but he's not.
Speaker: this really is such a This conversation right here is such a prime example of the lib mind at work, the way we so easily segue from talking about our puppet masters to the office. Well, the office is something we can actually change. We can actually have an effect on the office. I read that Harvey Weinstein's penis is always falling off.
Speaker: because he has like pretty bad diabetes. and like i've I've literally heard that his penis is like a baby's toe and that it's literally falling off sometimes and they have to reattach it. Is that an advantage? I don't think he finds it to be an advantage, but I've also heard that he like he doesn't he doesn't stroke it traditionally. He like flicks it like it's his bean. this is I'm not joking. Where did you hear that?
Speaker: I don't remember, but I think you can tell just by looking at him that his penis falls off sometimes. You read an article that how he strokes it. You can tell by looking at it. You heard it from looking at a photo of him. No, he has like diabetes or something and cancer and like his penis falls off a lot. Everybody with diabetes or penis falls off a lot.
Speaker: I'm searching Weinstein penis fall off. I feel like it would be an advantage during sex. The only issue would be retrieval afterwards. Yes. His penis was disgusting. It looked like it had been chopped off and put back on like something wasn't right about it. Harvey Weinstein suffers from an acute infection that contributed to his penis falling off. Wow.
Speaker: she felt compassion for Weinstein after she saw his deformed genitalia which appeared to have scarring as if from burns she got the impression that he might be intersex when she saw the deformity which obviously there's nothing wrong with it if he if he is but She said that? yeah Obviously, she said five. If he was, but I think he's a normal man with a cursed penis that he, a witch cursed him or something. Yeah, but it's it's not like what we want to imagine that the penis is totally normal and just like the connecting tissue between the penis and the body dissolves and then the perfectly whole good penis falls off and then he can use it however you want and reattach it. That's what you imagined, Eric? The bait? That's what I want to imagine.
Speaker: I want to imagine it's more like detachable rather than like necrotic. That's what you want to imagine. What are you imagining? That's what you desire to imagine. That's what you hope. That's what I wish I could. I'm not imagining that. But I can't believe it due to, you know, obviously being more science and rational oriented, like,
Speaker: Yeah. You're imagining like a mummy turning back into ash at the end of the mummy movie or like, or like what, you know, the old trope of like the, uh, the zombie, the hand walks around on its own and kind of open doors. Yeah. It's funny to imagine that it's trying to get away from him every time.
Speaker: He says, turn the lights on. since shi It's always crawling up a woman's leg and trying to save me. I like the idea that it's like, so it's, it's barely hanging onto his body and that he has to be really careful whenever he touches it. He doesn't knock it off.
Speaker: And you're allowed to joke about this, because this guy... I mean, I wouldn't joke about... If you guys suffered from this, I would not joke about it. I wouldn't think it's funny. But this guy is such a freaking weird animal. Well, you I mean, we should be able to like poke fun at ourselves. you know If this was happening to me, I think I could kind of make hay of it. I don't know. It's one of those things that I just... If it was happening to me, I just wouldn't want people to tease me about. Unless I was a rapist. Really? Unless I was a serial rapist with a ton of money. I think it would be inappropriate to to get my goat about it.
Speaker: But if you were a serial rapist, you would want me to joke with you about it? Better than, yeah, talking about the other stuff. if i If I ever do something terrible, I hope people just talk about how I look weird. Yes. That is kind of interesting. how It's almost like a way of forgiving crimes, just like, well, I always knew that he looked weird. You've always said that about Hitler. He had like one ball into that. Right. He's deformed. If you look closely, if you look really closely, kind of undress him, you can tell that he's off. That he's evil.
Speaker: Really bad, yeah. It must have been great though to be one of those guys who, you know, after all the stuff with Hitler, whatever happened there, I i knew he was, I could tell, I i never like i never liked him. I could tell something was a myth. Behind closed doors, apparently Hitler was quite nasty to his friends. bridges easily And yeah, he he they say all kinds of stuff. They say that he he liked animals, which is not, that's just a sort of fascinating contradiction.
Speaker: But it's not something that said, you know, you know, Hitler was evil, right? Because he was a vegetarian. But also they say that he liked to get pissed and shit on, but also that he was very clean. Really? They said he stood perfectly still and yet could move blazingly fast.
Speaker: He said he never slept, but his eyes were always closed. Yeah, this is a riddle. I eat. I don't eat meat, but I killed six million Jews. I like to get pissed and shit on, but I also wash my hands a lot. I take meth, but I also go to bed for nine hours every night. um I'm short, but I'm also in charge of the Third Reich. Who am I? I didn't know till the end, but it's Hitler. Yeah. When you said the Third Reich thing, I figured it out because you're such a history buff, but you don't know all the trivia about him.
Speaker: Can I ask you, Pierce, if you would read this question from the conspiracy subreddit? Unplug from the matrix. And then what? A lot of new age teachings and conspiracy theories alike claim to know how to unplug from the matrix or stop living in a simulation or any number of similar things. Yet somehow a few key points are always omitted. For example, what happens once you unplug?
Speaker: Business as usual, no superpowers. You get 100 ,000 Facebook followers and that's it. Or here's another one. If a guru or renowned scientist indeed knows how to unplug, that kind of implies that he or she already unplugged themselves, right? So what's on the other side, biatch? Yeah, this person's right. The only thing on the other side of the matrix, the only thing you get from unplugging is a lifestyle where you can talk about, teach people how to like pull, handle, kind of hold handle plugs. Yeah. Yeah. Unplugging from the matrix gives you the right to say wake up. Right. A very narrow life where all you can really talk about is waking. Yeah. But if you're in the matrix, if you're not unplugged, you can have diverse interests, many, many different things. Yeah. Once you're awake, you're allowed to go to sleep, I guess.
Speaker: I guess so, yeah. Not much else you can do, yeah. Once you wake up, it's somehow permanent. and ah love The message shouldn't be to wake up, it should be, don't sleep. Don't be sleeping. Never pass out. Stay up. Yeah. Stay up late. Let's stay up. Let's stay up all night.
Speaker: Sheeple, let's all stay up. Let's go on a vendor. The person thinks you get 100 ,000 Facebook followers once you unplug from the Matrix and expand your mind. I think they're talking about the people that have a lot of Facebook followers and their whole message, their whole community is based around the simulation, the Matrix. I woke up and you came to. It's kind of like just a hobby. It's kind of just something you can do. But then once you do it, that's sort of it. And you're just continually like being like, all right, I'm not in the Matrix, guys.
Speaker: Right. I get it. Why do they go back into the matrix all the time? Just once they unplug, why are they in the movie? Yeah. Why did they go back in again? You can fly. It's the only place in the world. The reason they go back in is because one of them can fly.
Speaker: They want to watch their friend fly at the very least. It's the only place they can get new clothes. yeah yeah free and I guess they have the right to wear sunglasses now. that Basically unplugging for the Matrix allows you to wear sunglasses in in the Matrix. Trinity? Trinity's in there? Trinity's in there and out of there. she's some Some women can be found in both. In both what?
Speaker: both in and out of The Matrix. Derek, how is this confusing to you? You can find Trinity in or out. No, yeah The Matrix is kind of like New York. That's kind of where it takes place, or that's like the only city in The Matrix. And then outside of The Matrix is kind of like just a dump. A dump with Trinity in it. ah Yeah, but she's dressed all shitty. Yeah, you can have Trinity both ways. Her hair is worst. You can have her frumpy or you can have her... They only have shampoo in The Matrix.
Speaker: You have a bone to pick Derek with Trinity's style. yeah Yeah. I wish she would take more care of a real body and instead. She, she just, oh, she's like, Oh, this doesn't matter. I'll just go wrong with her body and it'll look like I took a shower. You think she's let herself go. Yeah. She looks like shit. You're not into Trinity. No, I'm not.
Speaker: How can you not like her? You don't like Trinity? ah She's gross. she's She's in real life. She's gross. <unk> She's beautiful. She's not. She's nasty. Derek, Derek, we love Trinity. You're wrong on this one, man. She's great all around. And she's everywhere. She's in the Matrix. She's out.
Speaker: you You want to be her boyfriend? You like do. The Matrix, the movie, if you watch the movie, it tells us over and over that the real world sucks. It has like nasty shit in it. No, because there's the trinity where you have sex with Tricky in the car. No, it's in a cave. Obtain that.
Speaker: Rave chicks are grown. Do you remember when we had sex with Trinity in the cave? You were placed in that position. If you were placed in Neo's position and you were having sex with Trinity at the rave, you teleported into that. You would say, let's go back to the matrix. You'd stop. You'd say, let's do this in the matrix.
Speaker: I would say let's do this in the Matrix because in the Matrix, it's like she has conditioned hair. She probably has like a fragrant. I think you're just attracted to soap. But that's only in the Matrix. I think you literally need to unplug from the Matrix.
Speaker: Soap is not that great. Don't you want to smell Trinity? You don't use shampoo, right? No, I don't use it. And I would want to smell Trinity for real. I don't want to smell soap that the machines made. So you two, this is interesting for me. Here's your sort of like Trinity outside of the Matrix. And Derek, you resemble Trinity within the Matrix. You're clean. You're nice.
Speaker: Perfect skin you haven't let yourself go. Thank you like leather You don't wear it that much and you're you drive your driver you drive fast Yeah, your trinity your your major your major change and Pierce your your real Trinity. Yeah, you're unkempt You have a mustache I'm nasty. Yeah, you guys are the two ah forms of the Trinity. Shouldn't there be three? Yeah, you know how trinities go. well what would what So what would Matthew be then? I'm not part of this. haven't seen I haven't seen the film you guys have done. I just like her. I like her action figures. Is that enough? I'm going to see if they've made a sort of statue ah or action figure of Trinity when she's outside of the major. What would they call her? Zion trinity? Is there a name for what you are when you're on the planet? Yeah. That's a, that's another good point though. Zion, like they're Israeli or something. i don't Yeah. I'm not sure that's a great point. Okay. Did I say it was a good point? I think you did. Oh, yes I said it was a good point before I said it. i think I'm about to say, I'm about to say something. That's a good point. I think you did say that.
Speaker: Well, this is really good. I searched unplugged Trinity and it is exactly what I was looking for. You just see like it's a close above oils and it's slightly less, uh, it's less bold than that, but here's an unplugged Trinity action figure. Yeah. I mean, like, what is, come on. You don't like this person. She's like wearing Uggs.
Speaker: She has a big like fall girl sweater. Yeah. Where's the pumpkin spice latte? So you think she's say she's basic in other words. Yeah. Whereas matrix Trinity is goth alt.
Speaker: But that's like saying that you want your your girlfriend to be dolled up all the time and that she can never be cozy with you. I mean, every girl is Trinity. Sometimes sometimes they're getting ready for the party and sometimes they're in their PJs. you think girlsssip You think hot girls and PJs are basic? No, they're just ahre just cozy for a moment. How long are you going to be comfortable?
Speaker: How long is my girlfriend going to be comfortable? Is this forever? I can handle my girl being comfortable for like an hour. Trinity is so cool. Can this be the Trinity podcast? I could probably talk about Trinity for another four or five hours. Okay, say something else about Trinity. Go ahead. um Something else that we didn't cover.
Speaker: What's interesting about Trinity in the first movie is that she's not the first girl that Neo meets. He meets another girl that looks like Trinity and has a rabbit tattoo and she says, follow me. Well, can you say something about Trinity? Cause that's not really about Trinity. I already said my piece.
Speaker: Well, you said it could we could talk about Trinity in four or five hours, so I thought you'd have more than two things to say. Okay, I can i guess I just should say some more. Matthew, feel free to jump in at any point if you have more to say about Trinity yourself. Nothing um is wrong with Trinity.
Speaker: and i like the opening I like the opening of ah Matrix 1 and 2, the Cold Opens, where it's all Trinity sequences. But now that I think about it, I can't remember. I don't think the Matrix Revolutions opens with a Trinity action sequence. No, it's a slow... It's a subway thing, right? Because the credits roll, the camera slowly pans over. So the thing you have to say about Trinity is you like the scenes with her.
Speaker: Um, no, I thought maybe more like ah of a discussion point. I was going to, I was saying that, um, I was saying that they, the first two movies open with Trinity cold opens, but the third one doesn't, which is interesting. Why is it that I liked Trinity scene? Can you, can you expand on that? That's actually a complete mischaracterization of what I'm saying about her. The third ends with a Trinity sort of a Trinity closer.
Speaker: No, it doesn't. It doesn't? Doesn't it end on Trinity? No. It ends with Trinity. The architect in the oracle.
Speaker: The architect in the oracle. Trinity dies in the third one. i so I think I know a decent amount. I probably know more about Trinity than both of you guys can buy. Okay, I think that's true. Right. Maybe I can't talk for four hours about Trinity. She's actually given that compelling of a character.
Speaker: He's cool though. He's insanely cool. I just, you don't need to have a lot to say about someone to be upset that your friend doesn't find cool.
Speaker: it's just i i just don't think i just because i wasn't You just don't prefer. We're not fighting. We are not fighting, but I just said i i prefer I prefer her in the Matrix. What's what's the problem? to what oh like oh I like both versions of her equally. That seems like a lie to me. I don't think i don't think that's true. I don't think it could be perfectly equal. Does someone become a different person when they're dirty? Underneath all the filth, there's still a trinity. Most people. Or a lot of people.
Speaker: If Trinity was inside of my apartment and my apartment was dirty to the point where she was sort of buried under trash, I would do some organizing. yeah It's weird because I feel like my apartment is sort of unplugged from the Matrix most of the time. But every once in a while, it's like my apartment falls back asleep into this sort of clean world. And every time it's dirty, it's like I woke it up. Whenever I enter your apartment, I feel like I'm Neo entering Trinity. That feels really good. that's I didn't even consider that that was working that way. Do you guys like Morpheus?
Speaker: Yeah, I like Morpheus. Can we read another stupid -ass question, please? Of course. I would love to change the nature of the podcast to be more Trinity -centric. Can you please read this question from Psychonaut subreddit?
Speaker: What does it feel like to... This is interesting. this is interesting What does it feel like to be an insect? like What is it like to be a bug? I mean, really imagine being one. WTF. Try to imagine yourself as an incest, like an ant. Look at some close at some closeup photos of ant faces and imagine that's your face now. You are so fucking ugly, so disgusting, yet you are still sentient. but You can still see, you can still feel emotions like pleasure, lust, hate, bugs like bees and ants.
Speaker: ah those like but Bugs like Beezanans have complex so societies with rules. and you have to follow I want to interject so bad. And you have to follow them or else they brutally decapitate you and torture you. Or you do that to someone else. Imagine that.
Speaker: And you are also so fucking stupid, like more stupid than a mouse, yet you still walk around with your legs. And there are so many more bugs than humans, 1 .4 billion bug per one human. So there are so many beings who have the subjective conscious of being a conscious experience of being a bug. And they have such short lives too, like you live for a few days as a bug, and then you die, and then what? What's the point?
Speaker: Yeah, it would be cool to grab an ant and shake it while you look at it and say, what's the point of you? Why do you even wake up in the morning? You're an ant. You should end it all. Short.
Speaker: but You dumbass. You're ugly and you have you live you live in a complex society.
Speaker: You are an ugly sentient being that lives in a complex society with rules. Go away. I used to. I used to sit for hours outside of my front door and pick up ants and take their legs off, rip their antennas off. I used to spit loogies on them and then watch them get stuck in my spit. I used to torture ants constantly and I literally just thought, you guys deserve it. You guys are bad.
Speaker: Why else would I do this? but I'm completely allowed to do this. No one's calling the cops. And the more I do it, the more it feels like you guys deserve it. No cops ever got involved. No cops ever got involved. Was that something in the back of your mind at all? No, I just knew what I was doing was not just okay, but right.
Speaker: that I was somehow, I was ridding the world of something, a scourge. But my dad asked me once what kind of animal I would want to be. And I was like, probably a praying mantis. And he was like, you're an idiot. And I was like, why? And he's like, you wouldn't know how to do that. That's like,
Speaker: He never learned. Oh, you couldn't even do the job. Yeah. That's so alien. You shouldn't want to be something that you can't fathom. Yeah. It wasn't wise of you. well What's your dad's answer? He said, maybe an eagle. He said maybe an eagle, but if not probably like a, I don't know, a tiger or something. He was like, I might not be able to be a bird, but I could probably be any mammal. You can't be a praying mantis, but you could probably be an eagle. I think being an eagle would be harder. You'd have to learn how to fly.
Speaker: Yeah. Pragmented are pretty close to people, I think. They look around and they got arms. That seems easy. And they walk on legs. Walk, cave arms. So what does it feel like to be an insect? It's really shitty, I guess. Well, the way this person described it was just a description of what it's like to be a human, experience pleasure, lust, hate, living in a nice society. Yeah. Can you imagine being ugly and more stupid than a mouse? A person who is ugly and more stupid than a mouse who lives in a place where they cut your head off. if you hands What is so stupid about a mouse?
Speaker: Is there something they do that's really dumb? Yeah, they get caught in traps, I think. They can't do a good job. I would not get stuck in a mouse trap. They do a good job? They can't do a good job. Mice simply can't do a good job. That's the main problem. A mouse doing its best and a mouse barely trying are completely indistinguishable.
Speaker: not trying I'm not like trying to see stuff that's not there, but I really think this this question is kind of like The Matrix. This question reminds me of Trinity with ah oil.
Speaker: that's sort of what the ma that's sort of what you're Oh no, that's what The Matrix isn't like. The Matrix is a story about what wouldn't happen if you were covered in oil in a pod.
Speaker: If you, not a character, you. Make just a movie about you and what wouldn't happen if you were in know in a jelly in a jelly bean. I like that they said that the the an ant can still feel pleasure, lust, and hate. Yeah, the three things that make you sentient. But I don't think that's true. I don't think a normal ant can feel lust.
Speaker: No, I don't think an ant can lust. Ants definitely don't do lust because they because of what they said about the society. Hate, maybe. Also, I love the idea of an ant not following the rules. but That seems more sentient than feeling lust is. I'm not going to follow the rules. yeah You have to follow them. You have to. Otherwise, they're going to brutally decapitate you and torture you. Or you're going to have to do that to other ants.
Speaker: You're going to have to torture other ants. We're going to make you torture the other ants if you don't follow our rules, which is that you have to we have to walk around. both of our rules rules is You have to be an ant. One of our rules is that you got to walk around with them. You got to pick up things that are 30 times your size.
Speaker: That's a good point, Pierce. The rules aren't so bad. Why would you disobey them? Fuck it. I'm not going to walk around asking for trouble. Torture me all you want, but you can't force me to walk around. You can't force me to follow these ant rules. I'm going to live my human life, take care of my wife and kids. I'm going to go feel lost. No, you can't. You have to be an ant.
Speaker: but
Speaker: I'm going to get lost. I'm going to evolve a stinger and I'm going to get honey. I'm going to make honey. No, you have to be an ant. We live in the ground. of All three of us at one point or another have probably spent like an hour following the rules of being an ant. Yeah. At the grocery store.
Speaker: It wasn't so loud. Sometimes I am so stressed out at the grocery store that I have to follow the rules, and I just scream, I am not an ant. And you guys can't kill me if I decide that I just want to skip the line and and leave. Do ants really decapitate each other? Some some bugs got to do it, but I don't think ants... I don't think... Well, they said bugs like bees and ants, so maybe bees do it. Might be a bee thing. Ants decapitate rules. Yes, there is there like a list of ant rules also?
Speaker: rules of an ant It's simple rules for ah Being an ant. Well, I just found this reddit question. No stupid questions. How many ants can a person kill before it becomes illegal? That's a good question. actually Yeah, there's there's a there's a comment on here that says dude good fucking question. I doubt it's number -based.
Speaker: Yeah, you think it's like the method or I think it probably once and once they start screaming. Yeah. Once you can hear it, if you're killing them, but not because they violated the rules, that seems like it's a legal problem. You should only be killing ants because they're, they're bad.
Speaker: Well, if you're watching the ant colony work and you notice one of them is, I don't know, not falling the wrong way or trying to express itself, then you can smash it. And you as a sentient being and you're not a part of their community, it should be your job to to kill an ant painlessly if you see it following the rules, because you know that its fate will be so much worse if If his community finds out, they'll probably torture him. It's like a favor. But I mean, couldn't you just as easily um abduct the ant from the colony and put it in a beautiful um aquarium and give it a ah life worth living? So you guys think you should kill... If you're observing any sort of conformist society from the outside, we should aim to kill anyone who doesn't fit.
Speaker: Yeah, because we know that the consequences will be so much worse within there. The conformist society is not um necessarily pleasurable to live in, but it's good that the rules exist for the sake of society without the rules that would collapse. This is going all the way back to like sort of, you know, they're they're throwing Diddy in jail. And like, what does that say about society? Right. He was a nonconformist and they're punishing him.
Speaker: We should go into suburbs and punish ah or run over goths or like arty kids. Unless that's what the unless that's what people the people in the suburbs are doing. If it's already done, yeah, I guess no point. Yeah, then yeah you'd have to switch you have to switch your target. But I think the point is that if you took a gothy teenager out of the suburbs, just like if you take an ant out of its colony, um it will be unhappy. What would happen if you put a goth in your aquarium at home?
Speaker: And he said, you know, it would be on want here. No, because what it wants is the rules of society to rebel against. And so the goth would simply be unhappy to be in a cage in your house. Totally. And I mean, let that's say you can do whatever you want. Yeah. Like you can't just put a goth in the woods and like yeah can't put a goth in the woods and it won't become an ant.
Speaker: If you imagine a goth in the woods, you're just thinking, well, clearly this is a mistake. This person's gothness is going to waste. It's not even a goth if you don't look at the rest of society. It's only a goth compared to the rest of society. Their gothness is bouncing harmlessly off the woods. The goth is still not able to do everything it normally does in the burbs. Would you guys rather have a emo in an aquarium or a goth knowing knowing that they're going to be both of them are going to be unhappy will they perish what would make you like will they live a lot like how long you want to do what's best you get them let's say 24 hours would you rather have a goth in a tank or a emo in it and they expire after 24 hours or I only have them for
Speaker: No, they go they they are released after 24 hours, but they have to be under your care and you're also allowed to enjoy having them in your midst. I'm allowed to like it that they're there. which what If I'm allowed to like it, like if i'm allowed to like having them around which one would I want? yes What would happen if you put them in the cage together?
Speaker: I mean, don't they need a friend, kind of? Good point. Yeah, they get along. They're not going to cannibalize each other. Does the goth think that the emo isn't taking it seriously? Like you're not committed to this. Is that your idea of like what the difference is? It's severity? I don't know what the... It's like a question of severity. Like the goth is just a more serious version of the emo. The goth takes it really seriously. or The goth is more and more advanced. meaning of the same playing yeah what i yeah i guess that's What are you saying? but the you know Which one is more serious? It is a question of severity. Who's more serious about it? The emo isn't serious about it, but the goth understands it and is doing it. The emo doesn't understand it. The emo doesn't get it. Well, your answer is so clear, Pierce. You prefer the goth.
Speaker: I'm annoyed by the emo because I don't think that the emo could explain to me what it is they're doing. Do you think if the emo really knew what it was doing, it would wear all black? It would just be goth. An emo is simply repressed or sort of, yeah, goth can only go halfway. Yeah, being goth or being emo is like being a Warren Democrat. If I talked to you for long enough, by the end of it, I would ask you what you are and you would just say, I don't know. I don't know what I am. And I'd just say, just say you're goth.
Speaker: staying Staying on topic and like ah back to the theme here of like, ah and I have something related to societies and societies rules. Matthew, could you read this question from new no stupid questions? Absolutely.
Speaker: Can I get a haircut at a black barbershop? I'm 23 years old and white. I just moved to New York city. Oops. Nope. Oops. Can I start over completely? Please like i've ruined it you can ruin it. Go ahead. I didn't ruin anything.
Speaker: Can I get a haircut? What you said made no sense. It changes everything. It changes everything. What you said made no sense. You might as well start over. All right. Fine.
Speaker: Can I get a haircut at a black barbershop? I'm 23 years old and white. I just moved to a new city and live in a very diverse neighborhood. There are three or four barbershops within walking distance, but they all appear to be black barbershops. I say this because when I walk by, I only ever see black barbers and black customers.
Speaker: I'm familiar with the cultural significance of barbershops in the black community, and I'm not trying to invade that space or go somewhere I'm not welcome. I don't want a situation where I walk in and ask for a haircut, and they feel like they can't say no, but I'm not sure how else to figure out if I can get a cut of the at the barbershop that is around the corner from me.
Speaker: I think that my gut instinct is that this person knows that a white person going to a black barbershop is extremely enjoyable for the black people who frequent that barbershop, and they don't want to be the subject of enjoyment for the black community. Do you think that's what it is? They don't want to be enjoyed. They wouldn't be annoyed. They would be amused and kind of or happy. Either reaction is terrible.
Speaker: Yeah, they won't vanish. They are going to be the star of the day by going in. How do I go to a black barbershop without them noticing that I'm white? Right. This person doesn't want to be in a situation where he goes in and asks for a haircut and they do it only because they can't say no. They're a bit black.
Speaker: How do I ask for a haircut from a relatively black guy without him saying no? No, I don't know. I only i only want to do it if we can talk about this black stuff while I do it. That's what he's worried that he's going to say. This is the case in all barbershops. This is the case any time you go into any store or ask for any service, you are putting them in a situation where they feel like they can't say no because that's what they do.
Speaker: My business is giving haircut. I don't want to go to check out my groceries from a bagger who's doing it just because it's their job. I want to have a rapport with my barber before I start. And normally having a white barber is what accomplishes that. So ah should I go in at a deficit and get to know a black guy and have him feel compelled to get to know me? No, he shouldn't. He just doesn't do that.
Speaker: It's just so complicated for everyone. It would not be good. I'm sure that black barbers, I'm sure that black barbers toss and turn at night thinking, what will I do if a white white guy comes in here? um um new I know how I'm going to cut that sort of stuff. Yeah. What kind of hair do you want, man? Do you want your hair to look black? Sure. Whatever you guys do here. I'll just take the standard. you yeah It's really not my place. Just close your eyes and imagine I'm black. This place isn't culturally significant to me, but I understand it is for you.
Speaker: I recognize that this is typically cutting this person a person's hair is important to you, but can this just be one of those things that you don't really think about culturally? Can you turn off the cultural part of your brain for one second and cut my hair? Look, one or two things are just going to happen. You're either going to pretend to be a white barber or I'm going to pretend to be a black customer, but one way or another, we can't be different when this is happening. This guy's neighborhood is diverse.
Speaker: this but This is kind of one of those unspoken rules of society, you know what I mean? Yeah, you're not so just get your if you're white, just get your hair cut by a white woman. What's so hard about that? And it gives you the same level of dissonance. and What do you mean? Who needs to... but What do you mean it gives you the same level of dissonance? Black guy with a black with a white guy versus white guy with a white woman, it's the same level of dissonance. It's the same. It's exactly the same.
Speaker: I don't feel like explaining it. You either know what I'm saying? Because it's a woman and you're a guy? Alright, just cut that part then. What the fuck? I'm not going to cut it. Why would I cut it? Cut that part then. It's important. Because you don't get it. you don't get You don't get it. I don't cut things I don't get. Cut it because you don't understand. I would never cut things I don't understand. That's what's what this barber should say.
Speaker: ah ah here's what ah Here's what I'm wondering is why do why does your barbershop need to be close to you? I mean haircuts are so infrequent that you might as well make it a ah trip out of it when it's time to get it cut. Unless you get your hair cut. If if this guy's a bouncer and he needs to get a haircut all the time, then I would say that black barbers probably don't mind cutting bouncers hair. So the question's easy to answer if you imagine the person asking it as a bouncer.
Speaker: Wait, why does that change things? There are certain professions, there are certain professions where you can go in to get a haircut and when they ask what hair you want, you just say the name of your profession. Yes.
Speaker: Bouncers think it's the biggest one. Yeah. I think, say I'm a bouncer. Yeah. They shaved it right off. Probably all had the experience of like, um, you know, the first time we got our haircut, we went with her dad or whatever. I mean, maybe that's done. I'm a young boy. Well, I was going to say maybe you bring your dad in with you or, e or the first couple of times you go into the black barbership, maybe the first couple of times you go in, you just say like, can I watch or can I just hang out and like sort of,
Speaker: Right. I'm not here to participate. I just get, can I get cozy? Yeah. I'm just trying to collect information here and I'm going to come back later. aspects Can I just like audit? it I don't know if I'm going to get in. I'm not going to put on my swimsuit, but I will sit by the pool. Hey, this is kind of a, Hey, this is kind of related. Hey, uh, also from, uh, this is from too afraid to ask if I wear a Klingon costume as a white female, is it considered blackface?
Speaker: I, 40 -year -old white female, love Star Trek The Next Generation, Worf is my favorite character, and I want to dress as him for Halloween. I go all in for my costumes, so I would do prosthetic for the forehead ridges, e etc. However, all Klingon have dark complexions, and I would have to wear dark brown makeup to achieve a realistic look. Obviously, I don't want to be racially insensitive or appear to be in blackface. The only way for the costume to look correct is to have the right color of their skin.
Speaker: It could just do us an albino Klingon. I don't think so. A Klingon, Klingons aren't black. They're darker. They're not, they're aliens. But I think they only hire black actors to play Klingons. I think yeah it's fine to be a Klingon for Halloween, but what's not fine is having a costume of a black guy underneath.
Speaker: your Klingon costume. It looks like they have had some white actors basically do brown face to be Klingons. So I guess it means it's okay. It's okay in Star Trek, but I think you would need a camera crew to be in your midst if you want to get away with it.
Speaker: Yeah, I don't know. I would probably say don't be a Klingon and be maybe one of the zircons or whatever. the What is that? Wait, what is the, who does a, what is Spock? Cyborg. No. No. Vulcan. That's he's a Vulcan. Yeah. Vulcan. an l Elves are white. he They're always white.
Speaker: Yeah, be any other, be a less risky character, right? Worf is your favorite character? Okay, well, you don't have to be your favorite character for Halloween, especially for 40. You're the worst. I think she wants to do ridges. That's what she said. She said, I go all in for my costumes, so I would do prosthetic forehead ridges. For forehead ridges. She wants to put forehead ridges She wants ridges, but the problem is the ridges would be black. I guess you could think of another character that has ridges on the forehead and privately to yourself think, I'm wharf, I'm white wharf, but have a backup answer for if any non -trekkies ask you what you are, for any laymen or people or wokes that might think that you're doing blackface, you have to say a different character. So we have to think of characters with forehead ridges.
Speaker: If this was an advice podcast, that would be what we would have to do right now. That's not what this is. It's not. Thankfully, what I said was sufficient. If it were, you'd have to spend the next 20 minutes figuring out characters beforehand.
Speaker: That is why an advice podcast is only for the elite yeah Ivy Leaguers because they can just summon that information. Yeah, we don't have any help. We don't need to provide that kind of help. We simply have to say, is this a good question or not? And I don't think it is. I don't think it's a very good question.
Speaker: They shouldn't have asked it. They shouldn't have wondered. and if you Is it okay to wonder? Just so you know. Something you should not wonder. There should be less wonder. We are pruning pruning the world of unnecessary wonder.
Speaker: to make room for it so that wonder can grow. Really. It's necessary. So that wonder can improve. You've got a prune here. I got, I got something to kind of wrap this up and maybe tie this all together is also from the conspiracy subreddit. It's a, how do I take the blue pill? Now I'm too aware. Question mark.
Speaker: oh no Knowing too much has just made me depressed, lonely, and scared. I've been extremely deep down many rabbit holes, and it's just also dark and depressing, and there's nothing you can really do about it. The last few rabbit holes all point to the Bible being right, which is someone who was brought up in a Christian cult is a terrifying concept. My biggest fear of all was Christianity being correct, but that's what all the blatant Satanism and the anti -Christian rhetoric ah in plans, I guess society's plans, the 666 everywhere, et cetera, all lead me to conclude being a Christian would realistically mean losing my friends, girlfriend, changing everything about my lifestyle, being more lonely, isolated and depressed, and having completely depart from all my previously held more positive beliefs, ah parentheses, oneness, yin yang, et cetera. I just can't do it. I just want to forget.
Speaker: I see people whose big fear is their local football team losing and it makes me jealous. I looked beyond the veil and hated what I saw. I want to go back. Is there legitimately anything I can even do? They want to, but they want to take the blue pill and go back into the world of illusions where there is, there's no God. I guess what they, yeah, and oneness.
Speaker: comma yin yang is kind of like the things they were, they started to believe in. That's what they believe in now as they've been after being red -pilled. I guess so. Is there a blue pill you can take and go back to sort of fantasy, fantasy land where God is not real and,
Speaker: and and. A really rational person, pretty kind of critical thinker. And then they took the red pill, saw through all the lies.
Speaker: and became How do I become an atheist? How do I start disbelieving in a creator so that I can be like one of you people you idiots? I mean, you can you can blue pill yourself by watching hitch slap compilations, right? For this person, you could probably get amped by ah going on your phone while you watch hitch slap compilations on your computer.
Speaker: Watching what? Oh, okay. Yeah. When, when is the way he talks, he just sort of spanks where he spanks these zealots into, into shame. When he like, kind of, you can watch videos where he's like, it's good. We invaded i Iraq and God's not real. How come all the atheist spank hitch spanks or slaps?
Speaker: Yes. He slaps. what did you ask you and what How come all the atheists spank Dawkins immediately wondered whether or not. I didn't know if it was a spank or a slap, but I think a slap he slaps.
Speaker: A spank? Yeah, slap is a spank. It's a spank to the face. Yeah. And I know Dawkins is very pro -spanking. Oh, that's true. But so is Jordan Peterson. He's not an atheist. Dawkins said that he was abused by his headmaster and spanked on his bare eyes. He said he was molested and then he went on to say, I don't think it had any lasting damage on me. He said it's fine as long as it's by a headmaster.
Speaker: I believe. Well, it's cultural. He's British. so They don't even call us spanking over there, I'm pretty pretty sure. They call it molesting. Right. or Yeah, I had it backwards. Dawkins, he didn't seem to mind being molested.
Speaker: And that doesn't speak to the trend. It's just one man's opinion. Dawkins was fine with it.
Speaker: Yeah, he says normally when I talk about this kind of stuff, like human affairs, I speak with authority. I speak in and absolutes, like we are all African, there is no God. I won't say that molestation is good or neutral, but this is one time where where I will present something, which is that molestation did not affect me that badly. And I'll go on to caveat it with, but that's just one man's opinion. It's just my opinion. It's not a hitch slap.
Speaker: I'm not owning you. I'm not owning the victims of the world. I would be the same person had I not been molested. Doesn't do anything. To me. All it does is provide pleasure to the headmaster. If anything, it's a net good. No effect on me, but mood goes up for master.
Speaker: Well, great. I think that I think that we have been recording for too long. Yes, I agree. Well, um I guess I would say, have any of these questions been good? I think the ant question was my favorite.
Speaker: I guess I can't say that I liked any question except for that one. I did like the opportunity to talk about Trinity. I liked the opportunity to discuss Trinity. And I did not like that you don't like Trinity, Derek. And I like you, but I don't like that aspect of you.
Speaker: But you can live with it. I learned something about about Derek that I don't cherish. Yeah, I guess we can live with it, Derek, but it's not. You should change. you You should change. You didn't convince me. Did you guys know that if you search, I hate Trinity in quotes with the word matrix, there are only eight results in all of Google?
Speaker: That's actually quite remarkable. It's very rare. There are very few expressions like that. There are very few characters who who who hit in that way. And not one of these says that they hate Trinity the character, it's all contextual.
Speaker: This one is, I hate the name Trinity. What do you think of these names? I hate Trinity. Do you have personalized search results turned on? Because I have close to infinite results. I was going to say. Your personalized results omit Trinity haters. No. What did you search? I search, I hate Trinity in quotation marks. Yeah. Okay, but then did you also search matrix, the word matrix after that? Well, no, but everybody knows what you're talking about when you hate Trinity.
Speaker: No, because a lot of these... No, you're right. A lot of these are not about Trinity. They're not about... Why would they say, I hate Trinity? Who are they talking about? There's other... Oh, there is other trinities. There's actually a review of a book on Amazon called Someone to Call Bay 3, an urban romance finale. And I guess a character in there is called Trinity. Yeah, so I'm saying if you search, I hate Trinity, in quotes, and then the word Matrix, not not one person hates Trinity from Matrix.
Speaker: Right. Yeah. Because if you look at the individual results, you can see from context, they're not even saying they hate Trinity from this review. saying I know they're not saying that saved by Neo from this review of someone to call Bay three. It says we child.
Speaker: Jaya and Ice went through a lot of obstacles to finally reach their happy ending. All the secrets and snakes that were revealed in this finale was too much. I hate Trinity had to go out the way she did. Oh, they don't even hate Trinity. Yeah, they they wish she was ah still alive. You know, if you search Trinity sucks, if you search Trinity sucks in quotes for Matrix,
Speaker: It's either people talking about how they hate Trinity in the Blade trilogy, or it's people recounting that Trinity sucks a bug out of Neo at one point using a bug sucking blood. Oh, what would it be like to be a bug? All right. I wish... It's all connected. To be an ant and to be sucked. Sucked by Trinity. Oh, I did find some erotica about Trinity. Oh, but login is required. It goes, this is all I can read. Matrix, Alex big sister, Alex big sister's avatar, Matrix reset you and I have to start over. Trinity sucks my cock, I smile and wink. Resets? Resets. That's part of the story? It's part of the story I can't read right now. Alright. If Trinity had brow ridges, we can stop recording, but I do want to know, if Trinity had brow ridges, would I like her? That's a good question.
