74. Pokégirl World

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Speaker: Well, welcome back to the Wisdom Podcast, Chamber of Reason. And if you subscribe to our Patreon, last week's bonus episode was ah actually not an episode of Chamber of Reason.

Speaker: Surprise! It was archived in 2008. It is called the Poke Girls podcast. But it's basically two guys who are talking about um Poke Girls, which is a small fandom community um where they anthropomorphize Pokemon, turn them into women,

Speaker: And then there's a bunch of lore that explains exactly why this is good and natural and cool. But basically, they fuck these animal girls and and tame them.

Speaker: m But it's the podcast. the The reason why us using as a bonus episode is okay. Why it's a good idea? Not only is it permissible, but why it's ah good?

Speaker: it is, to me, the funniest podcast episode I've ever heard. It is sort of like... I like E1 a lot, but to me, it's like the perfect E1 episode, if that makes sense. We're going to need to reference Penalty U for even bringing that up, but I low-key know what you mean. That's true. People in our Discord are saying that we have a constellation of podcasts and other projects that we mentioned that no one's ever heard of.

Speaker: That's why I'm introducing the Punky Girls podcast as another member of this constellation, a sister podcast, perhaps. Yeah, it' ah it goes Chamber of Reason, Millennial Excellence, Podcast About List, E1, Male Loneliness Project, PokeGirls. Yes, but PokeGirls is sort of the foremother of all of them. Yeah, PokeGirls is the blueprint.

Speaker: The idea is that by turning like a squirtle into a woman, you've tamed it like ah In animal form, they're untamed, but when they turn into human, that's tame.

Speaker: Like, oh, she's a chick. That's got to be simple enough now. It's hard to have sex with a squirtle. Well, I mean, some people disagree that it's hard to have sex with a squirrel because there's also a separate fan community that I think just has ah drawings of people fucking squirrels and Pikachus.

Speaker: Squirrels? Squirrels. I think there's something cowardly about having to turn... Well, i don't want to put down these, anyone, but... I don't think like once you really understand it, you'll put them down because it's actually quite creative. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: I mean, i i admire their ability to infuse their kink slash special interest with just the sort of modernity.

Speaker: how do you say that word? Modernity of real conversation. and Modernity. Modernity. The modernity of real conversation, just going out, telling stories and watching The Dark Knight.

Speaker: And the it kind of made it seem like, damn, I think this is what everyone was doing in 2008, was talking about Poke Girls. That's how effortless it feel it felt. It was like a time capsule where it was like, damn, I guess I kind of forgot that in 2008, everyone was talking about evolving their girls and their Tittos.

Speaker: So Titto, just explain that really quick. They talk about it on the Pokegirl podcast, but Titto is the Pokegirl version of a Ditto. So there are Pokegirl versions of a lot of different Pokemon. So you said Squirtle earlier, and I'll have to look this up to verify, but I believe there is like a Pokegirl called like Squirter. Nice. All the Pokemon turn into like puns about how to have sex with girls. listen The stuff that girls, null features. quite.

Speaker: Not quite. Because actually in the Pokegirl lore, the Pokegirls are not derived from Pokemon. Pokemon do not exist in the Pokegirl world. And they actually go to great pains to explain that they're completely separate now. Mm-hmm. Well, I'm excited to learn what some of these terms I'm excited to learn what a widow is. i feel like widows are sort of the... mg And they talk about Metal Gear Solid 4, too. So, God, 2008 was such a great year. it was Obama, MGS4, and The Dark Knight. I mean, that's that's three for three. That was the invention of The Dark Knight that year. So, ah the PokeGirl community, circa 2008, centered on two sites. There was pokegirls.org, and there's this Angel Fire site called PokeGirl World Project.

Speaker: So Poke Girl World Project, that's where the podcast was hosted. That also includes like the glossary, like what is a Poke Girl? um It has a basic fighting guide that actually like explains what a punch and a kick is for some reason.

Speaker: Cool. But PokeGirls.org is where all the fanfics and stuff like that were posted. So today I want to look at this Angel Fire site and, ah you know, let's just let's go through what is a Poke Girl through the looking glass.

Speaker: You're asking us? No. Or you're about to tell us? okay yes it be a ah guess my first guess would be a girl Pokemon, but that's wrong. It's a Pokemon who's turned into a girl. but My second guess would be like a girl who likes Pokemon, you know like a brony. have to get this out of the way now. I don't know if I've ever said this to you guys, but when I was in elementary school, my friend... filled a Pokeball with Jism.

Speaker: Yep. Thanks. I filled a jar with Juzum and the Pokeball was submerged in the jar. No, my friend Mark had this thing that he wanted to do called Dopamon instead of Pokemon. And it was just, we would make our own Pokemon and they were stupid and we had our own sort of trainer personas.

Speaker: And i want to say for almost the full five years, we had other little comics that we would make together, projects or drawings that we would do within the worlds. But we were all, we were known as the dopamine kids.

Speaker: And ah yeah, I had a dumb trainer Pierce. I had two tongues and two teeth. and was The trainer had you as the trainer? as the trainer had two tongues and two teeth.

Speaker: And I was always cross-eyed. we We would do other stuff too. We would do decootiezers. That was a like army men who hated cooties. And then big helmet war. That was a...

Speaker: Anyway, it's just kind of this is really i had like a really emotional feeling listening to these two guys talk about their special interest Pokemon parody because that again for like five years. It's what I was known for was my Pokemon parody that I did with my Spirky friend. it's It is really heartening to hear like if you listen to that ah podcast.

Speaker: you find out they know each other in real life. Yeah. when you when he When I first started listening to it, I thought, you know, these guys met on the forum or something because it's such a weird thing. But like a guy actually went up to his friend who he knew already previously in person said, would you be interested in fucking these Pokemon women?

Speaker: And then he kept saying throughout the podcast, Spellbinder, you should ah you should ah ah get out of your shell and post on the forums more. Yeah. But then he also compliments Bellbinder for saying, ah he says, you've read more of this fan fiction than I have, and I've been at this for years. Mm-hmm.

Speaker: He says, yes, I would have read more, but I had to go to work.

Speaker: The podcast we uploaded was the second Pokegirl podcast, but there are actually four episodes and the last one is two and a half hours long. Awesome. There's also a few bonus episodes. um They have a guide on how to do sex scenes.

Speaker: Cool. Anyway, let's get right to it. I appreciate that. I feel like I'm doing a Pokegirl podcast about the Pokegirl podcast. It's hard not to. I'm starting to like talk like them. Me too. They adopt like a very broadcaster-y kind of ah rapport with each other. It's right really fascinating. Especially when they have a brain fart.

Speaker: I am so sorry about that, but I think we're going to keep it in because it reminds you that everyone's human. Okay, so this is from the Pokegirls primer. Could one of guys read this?

Speaker: It's long as fuck. Jesus. All right. Can I try this? Try it out. Pokegirl. A pokegirl is a female creature with special powers, an impressive libido, and a natural psychology to submit to a master.

Speaker: Some were human females who have undergone threshold and transformed. All pokegirls have some sort of special ability, if not looks, that separate them from normal females.

Speaker: Pokegirls were originally created by sukebe as super soldiers, sexual partners, and servants. During the war against Sekube, some people found that they could make pokegirls loyal to a single person, and this knowledge spread.

Speaker: A person who did this was called a tamer. Pokegirls now act as a human friend-slash-slave-slash-partner-slash-hobo. waititr Whatever.

Speaker: Oh, whatever. There are two categories of Pokegirls, domestic and feral-born. Feral-born Pokegirls are birthed, usually by parthenogenesis, by Pokegirls who have themselves gone feral.

Speaker: Since they spend their formative years living like wild beasts, they are very animalistic in thought and possess strong powers. Domestic Pokegirls are ones that were either born in a breeder's farm or were a human female that underwent threshold.

Speaker: Domestic Pokegirls normally have less power than a feral-born one, but will possess more intelligence. It is possible to increase a feralborn's Pokegirl's intelligence, but most tamers consider this a waste of time when they could be enhancing their combative skills.

Speaker: All Pokegirls have a lifespan equivalent to that of humans, save those with the longevity enhancement. Pokegirls with longevity enhancement can live for centuries. They undergo their first puberty normally, but undergo their second one when they reach middle age for them, which can take hundreds of years.

Speaker: Pokegirls all have strong desires to have sex, to a greater or lesser degree depending on the specific type of pokegirl, but these hormones only kick in during their first puberty, which happens around the same time a human girl would undergo maturity.

Speaker: Poké Girls are infertile, as far as normal reproduction goes, being able to only bear young from parthenogenesis. There are several categories of Poké Girl which describe what abilities they have or what their general attitude to is like.

Speaker: These abilities are now used in many things aside from combat, as most technology was destroyed during Tsukabe's war. While some hate Poké Girls, most understand that this is the only way humans will survive in this new chaotic world.

Speaker: Damn. It's the only way they'll survive. Yeah, you need to utilize beautiful... doubly doubly pubescent girls who have a naturally high libido and submission, a biological predisposition to submit to master. It will be the only way to survive is to have girls like this around. but Hard to live without these ah these animals. These loyal sexed up animals.

Speaker: It's just a version of girls that are animals. They're sexy slaves who love fucking, who love slavery. They have a most impressive libido. It's extremely impressive. Most impressive.

Speaker: I'm actually a little bit confused about this point. Why do they fight each other? Or why do you make them fight each other? ah Just so that it sits that there's something to do other than have sex with them, I think. do they It seems like they don't have a desire to fight. That's not even mentioned. For a second, I got confused, and I thought maybe they don't fight, and they just fuck each other, or you like have fucking battles. But i I just looked here in the Pokegirl Pokedex, and I see there is a Pokegirl called Squirtitty.

Speaker: It says Squirtitty does have a water gun attack that lets her spill water from her mouth. And it also says that she stores water throughout her body in smaller sacks to help keep her hydrated over long periods of time. Unlike other water poke girls, two of her largest water s sacks are located in her breasts.

Speaker: Damn. This has the odd effect of letting her squeeze her own breasts and letting water squirt out of them. That's an odd effect. water comes out. So was way more useful breasts than most girls we Hydrating breasts. Yeah. Like a camel. Most of the girls we know, the stuff that comes out isn't useful to us in the least, It's not quenching. It's not quenching. And it's not like a blast.

Speaker: ah You think it's a blast that knocks you, that leaves a a shadow on the wall? can't knock you out for sure. now What is Sukubei? Is that going to come up? Yeah, there's also a separate entry here.

Speaker: So basically, what you got to know is Sukubei is a master of technology and magic. This is the person responsible for the creation of Poké Girls and the scars created from his war.

Speaker: a great pervert, mage, and scientist... ah He created the Pokegirls as his slaves and later as his way to get revenge. A great pervert, sage, and scientist?

Speaker: Mage. Mage. He's a magical pervert. I really hope that's what it says on my headstone. A great pervert, mage, and scientist. That's kind of all I've strived to be.

Speaker: And if you've seen my work, you'll know that I have a lot in common with Sukebe. Why did he create Pokegirls? Was it an accident? Okay, so there's actually two like kind of like what is Pokegirl pages. There's the primer, which is like a glossary, and there's the what is a Pokegirl, and that's like a FAQ.

Speaker: um So on the FAQ page, it says, how how could this all happen? And he explains that in an alternate universe, a man named Jim Saccotto, who's the same guy, I guess, learned how to go to other dimensions. He finds a super advanced world and brings the tech back to his world and patents it, becoming a hero.

Speaker: i guess patenting it is important. But I really like how it was written. But he's a guy after all and creates a few genetically altered women to have sex with and keep one of his many mansions clean.

Speaker: A reporter named Linda McKenzie wanting a story, breaks in and finds out Jim's secret. The world's reaction is harsh and leads to the death of ah the first gene-altered girls, the defamation of Jim and his accomplishments, and eventually... They kill his slave? They kill the gene-altered girl, somehow, and eventually leads to Jim snapping, changing his name to Sukkabe, the Japanese word for pervert,

Speaker: There it is. And he creates an army of genetically altered women. And then there's the Sukkabay War, which ravages the world. ah The genetically altered women, now called Poké Girls, have replaced many of the natural animals in the environment, making them irreplaceable.

Speaker: Well, their ecosystem, they're in the ecosystem. Like, if they were to go extinct, there would be, um what is it, cascade effects. Yeah, it's it's like there's no deer or like birds or anything.

Speaker: There are now like women flying through the air that you have to fuck to tame. because It actually is like a dystopian world. For some.

Speaker: Yeah, for gay gay guys. For guys who aren't trainers or tamers. I have to. I have to. Why not just let them continue to be feral born, you know? ah so there So on question six, ah what is a tamer?

Speaker: Well, you guys can read this. I'll read it. Probably the most misunderstood position in our self-made world, and I mean misunderstood by people who are first glancing into the series.

Speaker: A tamer is a man or a woman who willingly takes up the job of taking in various Pokegirls and satisfying their sexual urges. Of course, like Pokemon, all tamers have different ideas on how to do things, and some want to show off.

Speaker: So competitions and various forms of battles take place between tamers, You can think of it as a master-slave relationship. Sure. But just like with our own world, these relationships can also be about equals. Okay.

Speaker: Their lesser job is to stop any out-of-control polka girls in criminal organizations, though most aren't willing to do crime busting. Wait, where did that come from? Out of control criminal organizations. Yeah, like Team Rocket. Okay.

Speaker: That just didn't... Their lesser job. Oh, I see their lesser job. I thought that was like ah'm more going to be more of a conclusion. On the side between like fuck sessions, they might... On the side, they're cops. Gangs, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. I like this idea of poker rolls ba i mean ah poker ah Tamers battling with each other and the way they battle is by having sex with their slaves in different ways.

Speaker: It's like, I'll have sex with my slave and I'll defeat you having sex with your slave because I do a new position that you never see. It's a new move. Okay, well, my slave, I gave it a longevity stone. So it's actually 200 and it's currently going through its second puberty. So there's more than meets the eye with my slave. you take into account the fact that your slave during its second puberty is weak against water and my slave has breasts that yeah shoot water out? Yeah.

Speaker: It's funny also to in the first description talking about like, and of course, they undergo puberty and hormonal changes and secondary sex characteristics at the normal time that a girl matures. Nothing about age of consent, nothing about consent at all. Just like basically as soon as they develop, it's time to start fucking. it really is just like a world where you can talk about women the way we talk about animals.

Speaker: Oh, this juvenile isn't quite ready for procreation. It's a woman husbandry. Speaking of second puberty, there is a term called pokewoman or pokewoman. Oh my god. So a pokewoman is a pokegirl who reaches her mid-30s. That's when you become a woman. woman on A pokegirl that reaches her mid-30s undergoes a second puberty and becomes a pokewoman. Pokewoman.

Speaker: Pokewomen have a slightly decreased libido, are no longer subject to parthenogenesis. They take longer ah longer time to go feral and are able to bear children by a sexual reproduction.

Speaker: With such children either being human males, human females, or pokegirls. Oh, that's weird. They can give birth to... okay Anything. Anything you want. A human female or female.

Speaker: yeah who's instantly a slave. ah A human, yeah, a human female or a female that like might replace like a raccoon in the local ecosystem.

Speaker: Right. I feel like, I feel like over the top libidos would be distracting for a lot of the animals in our ecosystem. Like, I feel like if ah women are distracting the animals already enough as it is. Right. If we, you know, what's like the most important animal in an ecosystem, like an earthworm or or a cockroach or a bird, you know, a pigeon, let's say.

Speaker: If a pigeon had like a, if a pigeon was a slut and always spreading its legs for any human male who walks past it on the side. I feel like it would it would be bad because not all the litter would get picked up in the way that pigeons are so industriously doing.

Speaker: What's another important animal to the ecosystem? Like a beaver. No, they're like destructive. Beavers are important. that art That already sort of names itself, right? All the animal and all the animal names are named after girl stuff. Beaver already kind of gets the job done. Yeah, beaver, yeah.

Speaker: But if honeybees weren't able to pollinate because every time a man walked past, they started, like, licking, climbing into his ear and licking him and saying, fuck me, fuck me, master. It'd be hard for there to be pollinators.

Speaker: You know, I think we're getting right down ah into, like, the the meat of this right now. So maybe, Pierce, you could read this from the FAQ. So humans basically have sex with poke girls? That's it?

Speaker: Answer, if it were so simple, this series likely wouldn't have lasted. Pokegirl world is largely unexplored, and we are often still finding new things to improve the world and expand its horizons.

Speaker: It started largely about sex, but we're making it more about an alternate world, dot dot dot, that has less censorship. Ha ha. Wow, it's a libertarian Valhalla. That's what I'm just now realizing. Less censorship, more underage, ah you know, a consensual sex, a consensual, a world where consent doesn't even apply. It's not relevant. Right. And just like libertarians, what do you guys believe?

Speaker: um Well, of course it started with fucking girls, but there's more to explore with libertarianism. whole world. The whole I like that they're saying it's a world with less censorship, censorship but they're not talking about like the media in the poker. group Like they're not imagining a world Where like, yeah, the media in this world has less censorship. They're saying like, they're less censorship from our world. Yeah. Our world censorship does not affect their existence. Yeah. We're allowed to think about fucking these girls.

Speaker: Yeah. Cause it's a world. It's a world. so there's no so censorship. Can't reach it. It's a, it's just my dream. so if it's you can't censor a dream. My dream. Yeah.

Speaker: technical Well, I think actually we need to kind of follow this thread because I feel like that's a big part of like the world we find ourselves in now with like tech, tech billionaires capturing our, our minds and our political conversations with algorithms and, and telling conservatives like, you know, it's been far too long that social media has overrepresented the liberal point of view and conservative voices have gone silenced and shadow banned.

Speaker: You should be able to communicate yourself without censorship. And then when people realize that, like, okay, well, their only way to do that is to have more conservative people use the internet. But for the most part, people who have internet are liberal. People who post are liberal because there's more liberals who post than conservatives who post. And so really what we're talking about is whether or not censorship can exist in a dream world.

Speaker: Like, we're... There is no such thing as censorship. There's no such thing as the press or the media censoring anyone. It's just like, can you censor my phone, which is my dream? Can you censor my political beliefs, which are just my dream, my ideas? I think that is maybe the project of the times. How do we censor people's dreams?

Speaker: I mean, I think we all kind of live in a dream world. and I think for conservatives, it's funny that their dream world is sort of a nightmare world. like i mean they're They're mostly concerned about like sort of being overrun by migrants and you know just like things that I guess you know whatever. They could be legitimate issues to to think about at some point but they turn it into like this really like crazy caricature where like we're a peaceful village. We have an idea of a perfect heaven world but we can't reach the heaven world. We're in hell world. Yeah, we're we're overrun we're overrun by like cartoon, angry, screaming, libtard, fascist faces, a flood of diarrhea, a flood of stinky diarrhea that's going to wash away our clean village.

Speaker: And also ah a ah swarm of of rapists. That's what conservatives... It is crazy. It's like, imagine the worst possible thing that could happen.

Speaker: And okay, now build a society to to make sure that that thing never happens. It's sort of like Cinco Bay's War. Right. But in this world, our main ah goal is to protect our blonde daughters.

Speaker: Our daughters have pigtails and they're blonde and we have to protect them with guns from, I guess, zombies. The only way for a father who loves his blonde pigtail daughter to feel useful is to imagine he's protecting her against like the final boss of a PS2 game, the Diarrhea Monster. Ha ha ha!

Speaker: Otherwise, he's not it's not really clear why he's there. It's dynasty warriors, but with migrants. I think these these blonde right-wing daughters or whatever, they probably are essential to the ecosystem, right? Yeah, they definitely do something to the minerals and and and gases in the atmosphere. There's some effect. ah I don't think the daughters are right wing. I think they're completely free of political beliefs. but They're slaves. they are We do have poke girls already. They're just trad women. yeah as soon as As soon as your blonde daughter stands up and and takes her own shotgun and says, I need to protect the homeland, she's no longer your daughter. Right. That's when you have to walk her down the aisle. You give her away.

Speaker: There goes my Poke... I mean, so what is actually stopping these people from... Because, you know, when you're when you are in animal husbandry, you have to like you have to sire new livestock by like inseminating your horses and your cattle and stuff. like If Pokegirls are basically just like fuckable livestock that happen to have the shape of a human woman, what?

Speaker: I mean, are you inseminating with just your own sperm and then like creating like an incest harem? I mean, or are you, do you have like a stud? There's no Pokeboy. There's no stud. There's no Pokeboy.

Speaker: Well, I want to get this out of the way right now. And, um you know, you calling them livestock. It actually says here in the walkthrough. So are all Pokegirls dumb? Answer, no.

Speaker: Just like in our world. I don't know why it says just like in our world. Their intelligence varies from dangerously stupid to, quote, genius. The same goes for all of the humans. Intelligence is the one place where all humans and Pokegirls are equal. So like a Pokegirl... That's the place where they're equal.

Speaker: Other places, they're slaves. They're very bright, but yeah, they are not equal and aside from intelligence. We do enslave them and fucking...

Speaker: I don't really understand how they can replace the ecosystem. Like with, yeah, they're making honey and shit like this, but they're also like college college educated maybe, or i mean, at least ah and college bound, they could, you know, they could take some classes. They can definitely be college bound. Yeah. College track.

Speaker: The same goes for all the humans. um But this is you know this is also true of livestock. like Pigs can be quite intelligent. you know it doesn't make it wrong to inseminate them and slaughter them.

Speaker: And their intelligence isn't necessarily useful or anything that we can perceive. We can't understand them. Yeah. I mean, you can be very intelligent have very impressive cognitive abilities, but it's all just going on in there. it doesn't really matter.

Speaker: So these Pokegirls are like thinking of different theorems, I suppose, while we're plowing them or porking them. ah Matthew, could you read this one from the ah f FAQ?

Speaker: this is This is a good question. This is maybe the main question people will ah ask when they encounter the Pokegirls world. Isn't this sexist answer?

Speaker: If you're thinking this while glaring angrily at your screen, you should probably stop reading about this world and leave. No amount of persuasion will stop you from thinking this.

Speaker: It's impossible to not think this. On the other hand, if you were just wondering, then here's what I have to say about it. No, it's not. Oh, okay. The Poker Girl world does have a number of Poker Girls with sexual innuendo in their name, and yes, sex does occur frequently. Occur frequently.

Speaker: There are strange names, and a tamer's poker girls are referred to as their harem. But in my opinion, this would only be sexist if men were the only tamers allowed, and poker girls only wanted men.

Speaker: But this is far from the case. Mm-hmm. Men might be more likely to be tamers, but women are not dissuaded from it, save in some of the less tolerant leagues that were created to be obligatory bad guys that were created to be obligatory bad guys.

Speaker: But they generally hate everyone equally. The Poker Girls are stronger and faster than most humans. They have powers and abilities far above those of the average human, and in some cases are smarter than those who claim to be their owners.

Speaker: The humans aren't as in control as they might seem in first glance. And realistically, they likely could not stop the Poker Girls if another war broke out. Right? In fact...

Speaker: Every league stresses safety with the stronger Poker Girls with the records slash stories of tamers who have been crippled by a powerful Poker Girl in the throes of passion. Holy shit.

Speaker: And while Poker Girls might desire sexual companionship, they don't need to be with a human, let alone with any anyone else. With the plethora of strange powers that Poker Girls possess, it's not entirely impossible for a Poker Girl to literally screw herself.

Speaker: Holy shit. Wow. Imagine this. Someone asking someone if they were a sexist, not if Poker Girls was sexist, but if they personally were sexist and they said, short answer, no.

Speaker: I don't think I'm a sexist. I mean, women, even though they're technically subjects of men, i doubt men would be able to stop them if they went to war with us.

Speaker: That's why it's very important to control them and keep them subjugated. And honestly, all the fucking we do, although all the women we fuck, does that even matter? Because women actually, I believe, have these abilities where if they really wanted to, they could probably like screw each other or even...

Speaker: Screw herself. i don't know. Yeah. Am I sexist? Because I want to have a harem of girls that can't really get away from me and who are so sexed up that they can't help but want to fuck me all day long.

Speaker: No, because I don't even want to live in that world. Just so happens that that's the world that I live in, though. You know, they can if they wanted to get away, they should not. They yeah have want to stop getting fucked. They should run away. Yeah. No, but I wrote the story and it says in the story they all want to fuck all the time. Right. So actually there's nothing weird happening here.

Speaker: Yeah, it's actually our world that's sexist. Because all the girls don't want to have sex, it seems like, based on my experience. And yet they seem to be having a lot with other guys. I love how, like, is this sexist? No, it's just like our world, but slightly more sexist. However, of the real things that happen in our world that make the world feel less sexist, those things are still there.

Speaker: You know, the fact that the patriarchy isn't as in control as they'd like to believe, that's still there. Right? The idea that women ah you know can be lesbians, that's still there.

Speaker: Yeah. The idea that these pokey girls can go to college and learn feminist theory before joining the harem, yeah. You can learn it. All there.

Speaker: All good. Are there any other oddities I should know about? Answer. Though men and women are allowed to be tamers, relationships between gay men or two human women are frowned upon.

Speaker: Huh. This is not our view on our world's homosexuals. This is the resulting model of what the societies of the poke girl world would approve of.

Speaker: Women who are tamers are at least performing a useful function in keeping poke girls in line. But two human women in a monogamous or in simpler terms, a single partner relationship?

Speaker: is not, quote, helpful to society. Same goes for two gay men. This also does not mean that homosexual relationships amongst humans don't occur.

Speaker: They can easily disguise their relationship by being tamers, as it is not uncommon for tamers to, quote, travel together. All they need to do is find a poke girl or two who are lesbians to, quote, own.

Speaker: Oh, they would need to own a pair of poke girl lesbians. That's all they would need to do. They just need that cover. Yeah. Oh, no, we're fucking these animals. It continues.

Speaker: I'm not sure what the view on bisexuals is. So one thing they didn't account for. I don't think we discussed that. Some leagues might allow bisexual relationships as long as the relationships include a poke girl.

Speaker: After all, this would at least be something, quote, useful for society. Useful for society is like really big here. in a In a strange twist of hypocrisy, poke girls can be lesbians.

Speaker: bisexuals or heterosexuals without any societal repercussion. Wow, that is a strange twist of hypocrisy. It's weird how this world allows that. It allows me to imagine them fucking to each other.

Speaker: Of course, strictly, heterosexual Pokegirls are few and far between because tamers would rather have Pokegirls who can tame each other. It's funny because, ah again, like this is this is like talking about institutionalized, systemic,

Speaker: patriarchy, misogyny, and then also this idea of like implicating others in the gross state-sanctioned act of ah like Epstein blackmail. like you Look, you can do whatever you want as long as you play by the rules. You have to constantly be abusing a poke girl. And then as long as you're doing that, you know it it should all work. But you have to buy in. You have to ante into this fundamentally unethical society. It's just cool that like, i mean, this is kind of the magic of creative writing and fan fiction is just like, it's not, ah I love like when when we talk about our world building episodes, it's like, what world are you actually building? It's impossible to build a world. All you're doing is telling on yourself. All you're doing is talking about like your innermost views on how the world works.

Speaker: I'm just as surprised as you are that my world is deeply homophobic. But the logic dictates that it must be because it wouldn't be useful. I'm sure that right now in 2008, a lot of people think that it's somehow useful to be homosexual.

Speaker: It's funny that that's not very different from the reason people get for being homophobic in our world. No, it's the exact same one. It's the exact same one. It's not productive. And the similar advice, like, yeah, you can be gay, but get a wife just so, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. This is the one like piece of a world building that takes place. like The headline for Pokegirls is, what if having none Well, I guess it is productive sex. When they fuck a Pokegirl, a Pokegirl can give birth to other Pokegirls or human beings. It's productive every way.

Speaker: It's productive, and it's also helpful for society to have a harem of girls. that's it's What if we lived in a world where fucking women for for any reason is always good?

Speaker: Kind of interesting. the bigger your harem, the better. it's like which Do you know which type of Pokerol you guys would have in your harem? um Let's see. What do they have? So they have, i mean, it's pretty much the Pokemon types. They have bug type.

Speaker: Pokegirls, they have dark Pokegirls, dragon Pokegirl, electric, fighting, fire, flying, ghost, ground, ice, magic, normal, because there's normal type Pokemon, so there has to be a normal Pokegirl, plant, poison, psychic, rock, steel, and water.

Speaker: Of those, I guess I would want to probably, if I have to, if you're putting me in this world where I have to, or else people will think I'm a homosexual, I guess I'm having sex with probably like the water poke girl because it would be soft and refreshing.

Speaker: You have to. But I have to. Yeah, if you have to. We're in this world. I don't want to have sex with the steel poke girl because it would be, or the rock poke girl. That would be awful.

Speaker: Says you. You don't I would like to be crushed by the butt poke girl, butt type. Is that possible? What is dark? Dark poke girls.

Speaker: It's just evil. They just have every... Oh, evil, I see. Here, it says, ah dark Pokegirls often have a moody or depressing demeanor. However, once you get past that, you may see a truer and gentler side of them. Their attacks can be fatal to many Pokegirls as they deal with necromancy at times and shadow forces at all times.

Speaker: Okay. Okay, that sounds good for intercourse. Necromancy. That sounds great. and Bring my dick back from the dead. You better. You better. Resurrect this thing.

Speaker: Yeah, I want to poke a girl where we don't really have a sexual relationship. It's just that she has a special power where she can put my penis back on after I voluntarily cut it off. That's kind of that's how we get down with one another.

Speaker: I cut off my penis. She uses magic to put it back on. And then I ah i say, how was that for you? oh So there is a ah there's a story reason about why they have to be tamed. It says...

Speaker: Most hypotheses say that taming fulfills some need in the Pokegirl's mind that must be renewed every so often in order for their mind to stay clear. A Pokegirl that isn't tamed often enough will eventually sink into a feral state, losing their intelligence.

Speaker: Right. I have to put brains back into you. i have to fuck the brains back into you. This is so ethical. I mean, they've kind of thought of everything. These names are amazing.

Speaker: Articunt. Articunt, huh? Yeah. Peek at you probably would be good. Tiddo is probably the best one, right? Tiddo is really nice. Snowmelon. I'm looking at ice types.

Speaker: Snow Queen, of course. Pogichu. They probably didn't have Pog back then, though. Probably not. Yeah, here's a fire Pokemon. Arbust. She's a bust. The buster.

Speaker: Bondage Queen. What's that a parody of? i don't know. but she's a poison slash magic and very rare Pokemon. and she evolves She evolves from Bondage Elf. Yeah, they don't have to be one-for-one parodies. I learned this from doing Dopamon. You can just kind of create ones from scratch. A lot of these aren't very creative. There's one called Hottie. That's a fire to it.

Speaker: The Hot Frog Pokegirl. Hot Frog. There's also hot tits and hot chick. Hot chick. Buzz breast. Buzz breast. She has blades. Butt sprout. are any of them ah Are any of them kind of like a tomboy?

Speaker: Tomboy with a shaved head? Cunny do. ah Dominatrix. That's just a name? Yeah. Slut. My fuck tool.

Speaker: Ivy whore. Oh, that's good. right. I've had enough of names. This compelling, but I just, I love the names. Victory butt. I love they use the word butt a lot, which is not like a sexy, butt is not a sexy word. No, that's a playground word.

Speaker: Butt. Wow, I'm looking at this one of... ah Is Gyarados the Pokemon that's like a serpent? yeah Sea serpent? I'm looking at one that's ah just an armless, legless Gyarados with a human face, no breasts, and just ah very human pussy in the middle.

Speaker: Wish i could show you guys. I guess I can text it to you. I wish there were way to see that. Here's a question. What do you guys think about Heath Ledger? Best Joker ever? ah Probably, right?

Speaker: No one comes close, right? Who else has played Joker? Jack Nicholson. He wasn't that cool, I thought. He didn't do as good of a job as Heath Ledger.

Speaker: No. Heath Ledger was so good that he died. And we're we are glad for that because it improved the Joker. It made him a better Joker to pass away right after.

Speaker: It made it seem like that was his final like burst, his final breath of life. He played an evil clown. Mm-hmm. He pretended. I feel like it's almost like obvious that we all have to agree to that kayfabe. I don't know why people were like, actually, he really enjoyed playing the Joker and it did not trouble him at all. Just like, well, you are you are defiling Heath Ledger's memory by saying that. Oh, the idea is that he hated it and that's why he committed suicide. That's the kayfabe or not that he hated it, but that the Joker possessed him.

Speaker: That his performance was so awesome because he went so method that he couldn't handle the the crazy wildness of the Joker. That's what I thought everyone wanted to believe in 2008. I do remember people saying that, yeah.

Speaker: I mean, there's no way that's true, right? Well, it's not true, but I think it's wrong to put that forward. I think we should all... it's It honors Heath Ledger by saying he was so good that the Joker took over his mind and killed him.

Speaker: That's what happened to Jim Carrey after playing The Mask. He's never the same again. thinks now you think that's why his movies You think that's why his movies have a different flavor to them ever since The Mask?

Speaker: Yeah, they're all not good, and that's why he makes that art, because the mask is controlling him and forcing him to make these paintings about like Putin and Trump kissing.

Speaker: That's kind of the mask's zany, like Tex Avery style. Do this painting. And then, do you guys remember his ah Hawaiian siren experience? No. He thought the nukes were going to destroy What? Jim Carrey? guys don't know this story?

Speaker: no He was in Hawaii, and then the nuclear sirens went off when he was in Hawaii. And an announcement saying, nukes are going to hit the island and in five minutes. Everyone evacuate. Everyone take cover.

Speaker: And then he was positive that he was going to get blown up. And so he made peace with ah with that made peace with his God. And then it turned out that it was an accident, a fluke. That was it. That was his story. Well, that probably happened to a lot of people in Hawaii, though. Not all of them had the mask in their catalog, though. I thought he was going to do something very Jim Carrey-esque. I thought he said, like, then he became, like, um Ace Ventura again for a moment when he thought he was going to die. Then he zipped around and and bounced into the sky. But nope. He wasn't able.

Speaker: Jim Carrey also killed killed his wife. Do you guys remember that? We talked about this on the podcast already. Yeah.

Speaker: All right, enough Jim Carrey talk. Let's get back to Pokegirls. Do you guys know what threshold is? i remember reading about that in the very beginning. Okay, so here it is from the glossary. Is it orgasm? That's my guess.

Speaker: No. Oh. Basically, threshold is when a normal girl might become a Pokegirl. Whoa. When a human female is forced to deal with any Pokegirl blood in them, not all girls with Pokegirl ancestry go through the threshold, but those that do always do so during puberty.

Speaker: And it says there are strong rumors about ah pure-blooded human girls being near Pokegirls can trigger a threshold. But this is complete anti-Pokegirl propaganda.

Speaker: I don't know what that means. I don't know either. strong-willed human woman can turn a Pokegirl into a non-slave. That's what it means to become a regular girl is you just cease to be a slave.

Speaker: I don't think this is about becoming a regular girl. you can't become a regular girl. You can only become Pokegirl. It also says there are some mod chips ah for Pokeballs that are said to force a human female to but undergo a threshold.

Speaker: I don't know. I don't know, man. This doesn't seem real. It's funny that they go through this whole thing of being like, you know, this is not sexist because human females can also fuck these beasts.

Speaker: um But then it also says, well, but human females can also be transformed into the beast at any time. I mean, yeah, ultimately all of this world is just waiting on the threshold to become a poker girl. Everything will become sex slaves. It's a world where everything is turning into sex. lives Every person, everything, buildings are turning into poker girls. That would be cool if they revamped this project. They were like, okay, we it was sexist. We admit it. So now we're saying that there is no de difference or distinction between any subjects anymore. Everything is a sex object. It's the Pokegirl instrumentality project. Everything is awash in the sea of primordial ooze oneness where all things are equally... ah

Speaker: All things are equally enslaved. slaves Everything is enslaved to everything else sexually. Everything is a part of its own harem owned owned by itself.

Speaker: If there's more than one thing, that's a harem. Yeah. So off of threshold um on another section of the site, it says it happens when they're 14 to 19 years old. And that ah raises this question.

Speaker: Pierce, maybe you want to read this. Wait, does that mean what I think it does? answer Probably not. We aren't a pedophilia community. Pokegirls cannot be tamed until they reach their species equivalent of 16.

Speaker: However, however, since each feral-born Poké Girl species has a different lifespan, generally between 15 to 40 years, and some Poké Girl species, like the elf, can live beyond a human lifespan, the equivalent age must be determined by a Pokédex or Poké Center. Okay? Is it wrong to fuck this...

Speaker: ah toddler or not let me consult Pokedex let me consult this Pokedex and c let me just take out my iPhone scan her alright so this is all good Her species, this toddler's only going to live for 20 years. So, yeah, based on that, you should be... a a Age of consent, according to the PokéDice... According to the PokéDice!

Speaker: So anyone who listened to our PokéGirls re-upload for our premium episode and thought, hmm, I don't know if I like this. I don't know if I like making fun of... ah of the sort of special interests and maybe neurodivergent community like this. And then you find out that it is a re-upload and not us doing stereotype voice.

Speaker: And you think, okay, well, maybe this is fine. Maybe these guys are just innocent men. Then you hear some of the descriptions in this episode and you yourself are thinking, wait, does that mean? Oh, they're really innocent men.

Speaker: Wait, does that mean what I think it means? Like, are these men kind of ah obsessed with the idea of age and consent to a criminal extent? The answer, probably not, because they're obsessed with checking ages on Pokedexes. So are you we allowed to be making fun of these men because they have really sour and maybe even borderline criminal tastes?

Speaker: Nope, because they use Pokedexes to figure out what to do. Yeah, but ah you might also be asking, and it's covered here in the FAQ, then why are there prepubescent Poké Girls listed in the Pokédex?

Speaker: Well, there's an answer for that. It's because a lot of Poké Girls were heavily influenced by Pokémon, and when the Pokémon series introduced the underage Pokémon, that's not what they're called in Pokémon, by the way.

Speaker: That's how they put it. Underage, the barely legal Pokémon. Yeah. Some members submitted the idea that poke girls might have a state that indicates that they they are underage.

Speaker: As such, no one is allowed to tame these poke girls without being treated to a massive beatdown. You get beatdown if you have sex with children. We're going to beat the F out of you. You fucked up, guy.

Speaker: You're not going to have it easy. We are really going to be busting your balls after that. going smash your head with a watermelon. We're going to Hey, what do you who you try who are you here to meet? um A normal poke girl?

Speaker: Nah, son. We're about to beat you down. Yeah, you just opened yourself up to a massive roasting sesh. Really? What did the Pokegirls Pokedex say? What did it say? that said she was a fire type.

Speaker: Yeah. But was it elf type? its Was it a species elf? Species elf age of content is what a million? yeah million years.

Speaker: Well, I mean, this is I can't say that this is making me more comfortable with Pokegirls. If anything, it kind of makes me second guess this whole Pokemon thing. I think yeah it seems like this is just sort of um bringing about the inherent immorality of the Pokemon world.

Speaker: Yeah, Pokemon kind of feels useless after reading all this stuff. it's just like, wait, is Pokemon just like a cynical ploy to sell video games and plushies and trading cards to children?

Speaker: This is surely not that, right? Not at all. And also, Pokemon is just all about fighting, whereas this is about fucking ah and fighting. This is for grown-up stuff. This is grown-up stuff.

Speaker: Yeah, but the Pokemon world kind of doesn't make sense because... So they're not fucking all these um animals? They don't have to. It's not okay so that enjoyable. but But doesn't that seem like very artificial? They designed a world where they don't have to fuck animals.

Speaker: Yeah, wait, if you can design any world, you should make bestiality legal. You should make it the centerpiece of your world's economy and ecology and culture and everything. All fictional stories like The Matrix should, there should be like a sub thing where it's like in The Matrix and out of The Matrix, everyone tacitly, implicitly understands that animals can consent.

Speaker: You can definitely make like a bestiality version of like any like ah franchise, Lord the Rings, The Matrix. Friends. But i don't I don't even think it needs to be like a ah staple of the plot or any set pieces or whatever. I feel like, you know, and in Seinfeld, even just like this show takes place in New York.

Speaker: it It focuses on like a group of friends and there's comedians. And then also because this is fiction, and The problem of animal consciousness, psyche, and consent, you know we're allowed to eat meat because all of the animals that were... Like the diner they love to go to where they get bacon and eggs.

Speaker: That's all ethical in Seinfeld and the Seinfeld universe because these animals were born to want to get eaten and they can communicate that. That's implied. That's implied in all fiction.

Speaker: Everything that people are doing is ethical because the ecosystem consents. All fiction, it should be understood that it's implied that bestiality is legal and it's just not necessarily depicted in the show because it's raunchy and it's not it's not like a sex show.

Speaker: It's raunchy. It's a bit raunchy to show it, but yeah, that's happening in the world. It's TV. Yeah. Yeah, it's not. You wouldn't show that. Is what you're talking about, Pierce, bestiality? Are you saying that ah the pig just attains the highest possible pleasure when it is being slaughtered as long as it's being slaughtered to be eaten later?

Speaker: eaten by the characters. and characters It's a world where pigs want to be eaten by Jerry, George, Elaine, Kramer. It's a form of bestiality. I mean, everything, just in this world, everything that happens to, you know, both plants, animals, inorganic materials, everything, it's all happening to service the desires of the characters so that they don't have to worry about whether or not they live in a sexist world or an abusive world or an enslaving world.

Speaker: That shouldn't be... That's not on the table. It's not about, like, we're judging these characters. You know, that actually reminds me... There is a Seinfeld episode where um George and Elaine... I think they both stop having sex or something like that. George gets a lot smarter from not having sex.

Speaker: But Elaine gets a lot dumber. So in that way, she is like a poke girl that needs to be tamed. oh For Elaine to be smart She has to be fucked repeatedly.

Speaker: I already knew that. And I haven't seen Seinfeld. that true? No, I've seen it. Just joking. ah Do you think that's true? be elaine

Speaker: the The thing is about Seinfeld is the one that we all know, the one we watch on TV is actually the kind of like the poke girl version of Seinfeld. The true Seinfeld would not have had that episode, you catch my drift. But that episode was designed so that we live in a world, or so we can imagine a world where Elaine must get fucked. Yeah.

Speaker: Right? if we If we want to construct a better society and a better Seinfeld, that's the conclusion that you draw. and do you guys want to have sex with Elaine? e if i'm in that world whatever the writers want that's what i say whatever the writers want if i if i have to yeah if you have to if you are if the writers have written you to be jerry you'll have to jerry's doing that you have to you can't disagree you can't disobey writers jerry is just the name of the thing that fucks the thing that is elaine that's right in the in the world

Speaker: My world is empty without you babe My world is empty without you babe And as I go my way alone find it hard to carry on I need your strength, I need your tender touch

Speaker: My dear, I miss so much My world is empty without you, babe My world is empty without you, babe From this old world I try to hide my face