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Time Travel, NDEs, Soul Integration & the Secret Space Program — A Deep Dive with Chris O’Connor
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In this fascinating episode of the Journey Mindfulness Podcast, James O’Neill sits down with Chris O’Connor—a 60 & Back experiencer and soul integration guide—who shares his extraordinary journey through time travel, off-planet missions, and multidimensional awakening.
We explore:
- His Near Death (NDE) & Out of Body (OBE) experiences
- The reality of the Secret Space Program (SSP)
- What it means to serve 20 years in another timeline—and return (3 times)
- Soul fragmentation and how to reclaim your full self
- ET contact, memory recovery, and life after disclosure
- Tools for grounding, healing, and staying sane through spiritual awakening
Whether you're deeply immersed in consciousness work or just curious about what's beyond the veil, this episode will expand your awareness and challenge what you thought was possible.
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Transcript
Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
00:00:13
Speaker
Welcome to the Journey Mindfulness Podcast, where we explore the depths of human experience. Today, I'm honored to have Chris O'Connor here with us, who is a near-death experiencer and has had a number of remarkable experiences in his lifetime. And we are happy to have him here. He is also the inventor of the Deems device, which we will talk about more as well.
Chris's Near-Death Experience and Spiritual Insights
00:00:40
Speaker
Chris, thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for asking me and the invitation. I appreciate that. You know I've, I've listened to a number of near death experiences. I've had my own experiences with things. Um, when I first heard your story,
00:00:58
Speaker
It, I mean, obviously it's a fascinating tale, but you, it's not a tale, it's your experience. Um, it resonated very deeply, um, in the things that you shared. You clearly have a very, uh, detailed, um, knowingness of the world and the universe. And so I will give you the floor and ask questions as, as we go along. But where would you like to begin with your, your story?
00:01:25
Speaker
Well, We can kind of begin anywhere. I mean, i i if if you want me to talk about being off planet, I could do that. Or I could go into NDE experience I had, you know, whatever you'd like.
00:01:38
Speaker
were good Okay. Well, you your experiences didn't just start with your near-death experience. Is that correct? No, no. But yeah I've had several experiences.
00:01:50
Speaker
uh, one NDE and OBE, which is a out of body experience. Yeah. And I was in a coma for a while. So I I've been separated from my body a couple of times or a few times here and in this life. And so really what that did, each one of those experiences, uh, they, they, they allowed me to see my life as something greater than what I was aware of at the time.
00:02:19
Speaker
ah You know, knowing that, okay, here I was, I was nine years old, I was drowning in a pool, you know, it was and and I was looking up through the the the the bubbles in the water and the sun was coming through and I was ah had already tried getting out, but my brain and I had given up about the fact that I was gonna be able to get out. I'm like, okay, this, I'm gonna die.
00:02:44
Speaker
And so as I'm sinking down, I'm looking up and the air is coming out of my lungs. and these bubbles are floating up and there's the sunlight is shimmering through them, I suddenly became so incredibly peaceful.
00:02:59
Speaker
And i
Communicating with Spirits and Military Involvement
00:03:00
Speaker
was just like, my last thought before I kind of faded out um was how beautiful. yeah And then above that, I saw suddenly this form. It looked like they had to be floating horizontally above the water looking at me.
00:03:17
Speaker
So that's impossible. Yeah. um And then that then I just kind of faded out. But the last feelings and the last thoughts were how beautiful this is that that the at first this experience of of drowning was pretty terrifying for the first few seconds.
00:03:35
Speaker
But then suddenly it was so beautiful and wonderful. It took away my fear of death. Yeah, you sort of surrendered and had this acceptance of, and then this extraordinary felt sense of peace.
00:03:49
Speaker
And was it your guardian angel, do you think, or guide, or did you think? I don't know, because I couldn't, you know, all the bubbles and everything. i can't ah couldn't see a face, really. You know, I just saw, it looked like blonde hair and just a form just floating up there. like, okay. Did you leave the body at that time?
00:04:09
Speaker
ah Not at that time. I didn't. Um, I just kind of faded out and, and I went out, took in some water and then that's kind of when my brain gave up entirely.
00:04:22
Speaker
and then I kind of passed out and then they pulled me out. And you were about nine years old at that time? i think around nine. Yeah. So how did you make sense of that? Or what did the people around you, how did they, uh, react to that experience?
00:04:40
Speaker
You know, it was funny because I was visiting a friend's house. ah So I think my sister was there and she was in the house. ah But it was not that big a deal i'm in the moment, you know, because I ended up being fine. So, we're well, okay.
00:04:55
Speaker
You know, and and I've been through a number of these traumatic experiences and and I've never taken them for the gravity of them. You know, and not that I didn't wasn't aware of it, but I didn't internalize it.
00:05:07
Speaker
And that's one thing I never have done is internalize those scenarios. After that happened, did that open you up to other things with abilities or just things that you saw or experienced?
00:05:21
Speaker
Well, I had always been and still can ah see, you know, spirits or see beings, see entities that are outside of our frequency. Uh, and, and, and that, that just was a part of my life, you know, even as a much younger child.
00:05:37
Speaker
You know, I would be calling out to my parents at night and just like, there are people in my room. They're everywhere. And they're like, no, it's your imagination. and Just go to sleep. So, um you know, of course, I didn't blame them for that because it's like, that's what you say it to a kid, right? You're just imagining it.
00:05:54
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, i but I always knew they were there. You know, so I always had the ability to see and I could detect and I can empathically feel things around me. Okay.
00:06:06
Speaker
So then going back, were you able to communicate with those spirits? Well, at the very beginning, I i didn't. It was it was scary.
00:06:17
Speaker
yeah i was a kid, you know, a little kid. um So for the first number of years, I didn't try to communicate with them because they would try to communicate with me.
00:06:28
Speaker
They would be in the room. and and And what I found out later was they were really there because they needed help. I didn't know that. You know, I just didn't know why they were there. They weren't um unkind. They weren't, there was nothing bad. Now, I have had some negative visitors, you know, and I have to send them on their way.
00:06:47
Speaker
um But that was a process of learning. So at the beginning, I really didn't communicate with them. I do now, but... Yeah. It's really interesting. You say that, um, my last one of my last guests was, is a, she calls herself a rescue medium and she helps spirits on the other side. That's what she focuses on. That's really fascinating.
00:07:10
Speaker
Well, that's a wonderful thing to do. ah because sometimes. That soul can't see those people that are there for them to help them.
00:07:21
Speaker
For some reason, they're just unable to see it. and And the rescue mediums youd do such a beautiful service you know in in helping them bridge that. So suddenly now they can see you know who's there to be of assistance to them.
00:07:34
Speaker
Yeah. So you can clearly see things. Do you call yourself a medium? I mean, clearly you've had different types of psychic type phenomenon. Well, you know, I really don't, I don't call myself, try not to call myself anything, you know, it turn out myself at all.
00:07:53
Speaker
Fair enough. Yeah. But I do, you know, like I can do some telepathic work and i certainly can do some kind communication work and, and, and I just do that on the daily. You know, I, sometimes I help people with, you know, kind of clearing some energies that shouldn't be hanging around them.
00:08:11
Speaker
Sort of like a natural ability that you have. Yeah. Well, because I, as you know, my my experiences are pretty extensive and they don't, and and most of them aren't on earth.
00:08:25
Speaker
Some of them are my memories from past lives. And some of them are, you know, from, um, when I worked with, you know, a space program, you know, here on earth. I got to meet a great many things. And then you begin to understand that a lot of what we see as entities, ghosts and stuff and such as that are really other entities from other dimensions or other places that come and attempt communications.
00:08:53
Speaker
you know, then that stuff that I learned and, um, it's pretty fascinating. When did that start? Cause you had the NDE when you were nine and I know you've had some other experiences you you can touch on, but when did you open up to all of that?
00:09:09
Speaker
The other, if you will. Well, you know, the, the stuff that I did, um And I don't know how how deep down the hole you want to go. I mean, I'll go as far you want. can go as deep as you like.
00:09:23
Speaker
I'm fascinated by your story. Okay. um Well, basically, at I was born in 1968. And in nineteen seventy i was taken by the u s military And I was, they have technologies, they have so many more technologies than than what they say, just because it's, you know, stuff they've traded with other races.
00:09:49
Speaker
So they don't want to tell anybody yet. um
Alien Races and Historical Conspiracies
00:09:52
Speaker
But I was right in the middle of it. And I was basically age advanced. They can rapidly grow tissue.
00:10:02
Speaker
And so they grew my body in just like, it was like four or five weeks. They grew me to like a mid-20s from a two-year-old. And ah then there I am, a mid-20s body with two-year-old brain.
00:10:16
Speaker
Then they go go in, there's these techniques of memory um manipulation. You know, they have the technology for that. And they basically unlocked my memories of memory.
00:10:30
Speaker
past lives of everything and the fact that I had agreed to do this with them. So once I remembered all that, ah then I began working with the U.S. military, how the Navy and the Air Force.
00:10:46
Speaker
So this is what people call the secret space program? Yeah. Yeah, it's a pretty good catch-all term. ah But yeah, and so they they have ships.
00:10:58
Speaker
There are there's so many amazing things out there that people aren't aware of yet. And that's part of why I'm doing what I'm doing is I want to be able to share that and say, well, you know, you don't have to believe me, but this is, you know, just just hear this, you know, be open-minded because before too long, it's going be much more public information.
00:11:19
Speaker
For those that that don't know, I'm What do you, what do you talk about? Like, is, you know, there's the, um, the, the story of Eisenhower, president Eisenhower meeting with, I don't know, the grays or the Nordics and coming to some type of agreement and sharing technology and that type of thing.
00:11:40
Speaker
Post-World War two Is that the genesis of this? and Pretty much, but it really goes more little earlier. We've all heard of the Roswell scenario.
00:11:53
Speaker
It's not the only scenario, but those were not accidents. Those were um an an unkind race that crashed a couple of their own ships and letting the U.S. military think that they shot it down when they didn't.
00:12:11
Speaker
Then what they did was they went and collected it, and suddenly they're finding all this technology that the military is interested in. And so that was really the first contact for the most part.
00:12:24
Speaker
um They've been around on Earth longer than modern humans they've been visiting. So it's like that was just their first attempt ah to contact a world power. ah But then they came after that, and and then they met, and forget which, Air Force Base in Southern California in the deserts.
00:12:44
Speaker
ah They met with Eisenhower and tried to make a deal. Well, he was not interested because he didn't think ah Americans could handle it. chilida And so he rejected them. Well, other factions of the military went behind his back and contacted them because they gave him a way to contact them. I don't know how that is.
00:13:06
Speaker
And so that's where what we call the Majestic 12 came in. And they then they they started trading information and technology in exchange for the permission to abduct 300,000 Americans.
00:13:23
Speaker
Well, they ended up abducting way more than that. And then they started fighting. And, you know, there's a number of things in our American history over the last less than 100 years ah that actually we think were accidents, you know, planes that went down such as that. And um that was actually...
00:13:44
Speaker
alien attacks based on retribution because we start shooting at their ships. Hmm. So like there's this warfare, secret warfare going on is in, in, in we see some of it.
00:13:58
Speaker
Yeah. You know, so, cause they were like, they, they, they're not a kind race. You know, they were lying and saying that they needed our genetic material to continue their,
00:14:10
Speaker
um They're they, cause they were dying off because they're all clones of one another, you know, so that was their in road, but really they were just here do other experiments on, on humans.
00:14:23
Speaker
What is, can you identify the race? Do you, know is it a number of races or is it? It's not a singular race, but it is it's a gray race, a race of alien grays. Uh, there, um, I don't remember which ones they were, which planet, um,
00:14:39
Speaker
I'm very, I'm not great at remembering those kinds of names. Okay. Uh, but they were an alien gray race. Okay. And were they, and they were involved in the, the, the secret space program or kind of behind the group that abducted you or enrolled?
00:14:58
Speaker
They were, they had a presence for sure. And then later on, then other races came in. So the, so what, technically really what it was is there was a, there was a reptilian race that sent the gray race.
00:15:13
Speaker
Okay. So that's who was really behind it. And then a couple of the Nordic races were also involved. They were more involved in, uh, in and Europe, you know, like with ah Germany and Russia.
00:15:27
Speaker
Okay. And then Germany, World War II, and then Operation Paperclip, and then that kind of transferred to the U.S.? Right. Yeah. You know, then we brought the they the German researchers and scientists here to the U.S. to continue, you know, that research.
00:15:47
Speaker
So when did you become aware of your involvement with that program, the secret space program, and in at at such a young age? When did that memory come back to you?
00:16:01
Speaker
I always remembered parts, you know, flashes of memory. Okay. Like being in the tank and being drowned and... this purple gel and that's what they have to do to to aid, to grow, to rapidly grow you.
00:16:17
Speaker
um They have to drown you in this pink gel that's actually a, um like a DNA type of plasma. Sort like a plasma. Yeah. It's like a pink purple gel.
00:16:28
Speaker
And then they just, you have to be drowned in it. But it's highly oxygenated. So you're getting enough oxygen, but you're you're also kind of put out, like anesthetized, you know, in a way.
00:16:40
Speaker
and he You know, so um I always remembered some flashes of those memories. And it just, over the years, I've been able to bring other memories up.
00:16:51
Speaker
often through meditation or through emotional responses to things. I don't know why I'm having this response. Yeah. I seek into it and then I start putting those memories together like puzzle pieces.
00:17:06
Speaker
So from a young age, they grow this body at a rapid rate. And then what was your mission or what did you do? Well, for the first 20 years,
00:17:18
Speaker
ah because they moved me to another timeline. And I know that sounds pretty wild, but once you have the technology, jumping timelines is is is is easy. It's really easy.
00:17:30
Speaker
um And they have that technology because time is a wave. And if you know how to timestamp it, you can move over to that, to another another line of time. So for the first 20 years,
00:17:43
Speaker
I, uh, I was mostly on earth. Uh, I worked under some, what they call DUMs, deep underground military bases. Uh, and I was worked on the surface in the in a desert somewhere in a small military, um installation.
00:18:00
Speaker
Um, Scott, I believe is probably ah Southwest America cause it was desert and had, you know, that look. Yeah. So I did that. And then I also did some technician work. I was taught and I had to go through courses to to kind of, you know, learn how to do a number of things. And I actually did ah memory transference, memory deletion. And I kind of learned to do those those things as well. So that was the first 20 years.
00:18:32
Speaker
Is that like the the sort of men in black, like the device that wipes your memory, like that type of thing? Not exactly. Okay. A very quick yeah ah explanation of that is in our um ah pineal gland, we have calcite crystals, you know, microscopic in our pineal gland and in the CSF fluid, the cerebral spinal fluid.
00:18:58
Speaker
And there's fluid in that area and it puts a hydraulic pressure on those calcite crystals. And then that creates a frequency or vibration, and that is your signature, that's your vibe, that's who you are, what your pineal gland is putting out. and so they have that when you're in the military, on that level, off planet, they know your frequency, so they can they can tune into your frequency And they can, you know, delete memories. they can They can move your consciousness and soul to a copy of an exact DNA-based copy of you if something happens and you and you were killed, which happened to me. So they had to move me to a copy of myself.
00:19:43
Speaker
um And so, but that's all based on the fact that the pineal gland puts out, you know, ah and it's just like a fingerprint. Nobody
Space Station Incident and Consciousness Transfer
00:19:52
Speaker
has the two fingerprints alike. Nobody has the same frequency.
00:19:56
Speaker
Uh, and so that's kind of how they base it, but all of our memories, our soul, our consciousness is all based in that area in the pineal gland area.
00:20:09
Speaker
So what happened to you that you said they had to transfer your consciousness that you, was it some type of combat or what? Well, I was on a space stations.
00:20:21
Speaker
um ah just outside the rings of Saturn. It's on the the moon of Mimas. That's actually a space station. I was there. i was doing work ah because there's the United Nations. We have an Earth embassy at that station.
00:20:38
Speaker
So I was doing work there and just... um not and like ambassadorial type of work where, you know, you're meeting with other races if there's a problem or a contract to work out or an issue.
00:20:52
Speaker
So I was, ah was there. it was pretty critical because, there are, there are some fleets and and and groups of humans that have left earth, uh, that are not doing nice things.
00:21:04
Speaker
You know, they, they'll, you know, They'll kill and pillage and whatever if they need to. And so they visited this particular planet and these individuals, they wanted to trade something. I think it was like crystals or or something.
00:21:21
Speaker
So they made an offer, this fleet to these people of this planet to purchase whatever they're there to do um and or trade, it's all about trade.
00:21:31
Speaker
And these people knew who this other group was, and they didn't want to work with the the the negative humans. they like because They're part of the embassy, they're part of the station, and they're part of the, called the Confederation of Planets.
00:21:46
Speaker
And so they would kind of break protocol if they worked with them or traded with them. So they refused. Well, this group was really unhappy about that, so they ended up attacking them, took what they wanted anyway, and killed about 300,000 them.
00:22:05
Speaker
And so we I was there in a meeting. It was really critical. We were at some mining operation. um i don't remember where it was, but we were meeting in a meeting room and these people were really upset, obviously.
00:22:21
Speaker
and And they don't get emotional. they They try to suppress their emotions. But when they do get emotional, it's extreme and very fast. So we're sitting there and...
00:22:35
Speaker
I believe I was saying something that was not what they wanted to hear. and And had somebody next to me, which was a, it was like an expert working with these particular people. And he was a really tall, huge man.
00:22:51
Speaker
And so he was like kind of a presence. And so we kind of had him there. And I actually know who he is, he lives in France. We actually were able to find one another. But um so we're there in this in this meeting and I'm sitting across like a board table, boardroom, and and in this particular entity ah that looks similar to a ah gray, but they're much taller and and more interesting looking, actually. ah And they he just suddenly like touched his chest or wiped his hand across it. I don't remember exactly.
00:23:27
Speaker
And then he did that, and this green beam came out of where like his heart would be, our heart, and hit me in the shoulder. And as soon as it hit me, it knocked me back out of my chair and, um, he meant to kill all three of us.
00:23:41
Speaker
But the second he hit me, he felt bad about what he had done. So he stopped. Uh, but it ended up killing me. And so, um, I was immediately security runs in, they grabbed me and they dragged me out down the hall. mean, it's my body at this point. Cause I, I died right after I landed after I fell back.
00:24:01
Speaker
Okay. ah But then they moved my consciousness because always had ah copies of of certain people, you know, in in case of an emergency like this. so you know like Like there's a copy of your consciousness, like a backup?
00:24:18
Speaker
Well, they were able to, you know, pull the original out. Okay. but they But they have about two hours. If a body dies, they have about two hours because they're still... ah they're they're still residual electrical signals and such as that in the pineal.
00:24:36
Speaker
And so they're able to, you know, put you into and another body. Like consciousness retrieval or soul retrieval or something. Yes, exactly.
00:24:47
Speaker
You know, and that's what I was doing earlier before I ever went to the space station. and That's the work I was part of the work I was doing for the United States, you know, on on Earth.
00:24:58
Speaker
So how does that how does that come to an end? when you know Like when you're, I don't know, service, you're 20 years or however ends. What's that transition like?
00:25:12
Speaker
Well, I ended up doing 60 years And so every 20 years I renegotiated, you know, ah my contract. Okay. But when you're leaving the service, it kind of depends on the individual in some ways on how you got there. If if you agreed to go, you know, and you were 25 year old and, you know, you're in the military and they they use you in the space program, then all they do is
00:25:45
Speaker
delete your memory, you know, of, of your experience. And, and for me, they deleted all 60 years. You know, you can't just like pick and choose memories. You have to delete like a times and time group. So like you can't delete a bad event during a day, but you can delete the whole day.
00:26:02
Speaker
Okay. And so that's what they do. so people's memories are wiped. You know, and then and and with me, because I was taken at two years old and because I was moved to another timeline, then they had to put me back after 60 years into another two-year-old and body, which they had.
00:26:22
Speaker
You know, they had copied, you know, with the DNA and everything. And then they moved me back to 1970, and I was only gone for a few seconds. So all of that, okay, because i was curious, like, how does that work? but So you're essentially gone in a moment and returned, and yet this time period has elapsed, and then you continue living your life with this deleted memory, however, you are were able at some point to access them again.
00:26:54
Speaker
Yeah, some of them, are like I said, I always had some of the memories. But then once I started, it it took a number of years to understand and to accept the fact that these are memories.
00:27:07
Speaker
These things really happened. I mean, i there was one point in time I honestly thought that I had to be nuts. I mean, there's just no way. um And then that's the end struggle. you know And so that's why a lot of people don't remember memories ah there's many thousands of people that have been in this situation, many thousands.
00:27:28
Speaker
Yeah, i mean, I've, I've heard a number of them, you know, and, and certainly when you hear them, like, you you know, like you're talking about it now, like there, there's ah a sincerity and, and, um, authenticity about it. That's like, okay, something is going on. And then all of this other sort of secret shadow government stuff that's happening with these, you know, people know like area, area 51 or something like that, but that there's this extensive,
00:27:55
Speaker
underground base system that exists and is, you know, shipping kids around for various things. yeah I don't claim to know all the details about it, but I have heard of that.
00:28:10
Speaker
Yeah. Well, and I don't think anybody knows all the details because these things are so vast. There are so many things that we're just not privy to.
00:28:24
Speaker
And how I've been able to remember a lot of them, I think the only reason is because, you know, I'm ah i'm from a race. I'm not native human. Many of us are not native human.
00:28:36
Speaker
But we've come here. and started the incarnation cycle and and living on earth to be of assistance, you know, to help people. Cause right now humanity and the earth is evolving in a way that our souls are going to, you know, evolve and we're going to be greater, more spiritual place here on earth. And, and that's a critical time. So many races come and join in and and become humans. And then our job is to remember who we are.
00:29:06
Speaker
And as long as we're able to start remembering who we are, we can be of assistance.
Human Evolution and Galactic Role
00:29:10
Speaker
And that's why we're here. and But there are... millions, millions of, uh, of people are not native to earth.
00:29:20
Speaker
Yeah. Can you speak to that? Cause this, is are you referring to like sort of your pre-birth pre-incarnation, um time on a spit, uh, spaceship, like your, your star seed lineage, or I don't know, I know we want to be careful with labels, but your origin, your star origin, maybe.
00:29:38
Speaker
Well, um i know I don't remember the name of the race I came from originally, but we're a very old race. And we were basically builders of sons.
00:29:51
Speaker
The easiest way to explain is... um is we can manipulate certain gases and materials, you know, like these these hot clouds where stars are born.
00:30:03
Speaker
We can go in there, add other elements to create a certain type of sun. And for for a certain type of sun, and what we haven't discovered yet is there are suns of many colors.
00:30:15
Speaker
um You know, I remember one being like a jade green. It's just gorgeous. You know, and then of course we have ours is really technically kind of a blue-green color. It's just that we're predominantly white because of the mixture of photons.
00:30:30
Speaker
And that's why most stars seem white because of the, you know, because that all of those colors mix up by the time they reach our eye. So we see them as white. um But they're all kind of different colors, really.
00:30:42
Speaker
You know, I mean, some are pretty intense. So you see them as another color, like brown stars and and red stars and some yellow Um, but there are other colors as well. So that's what my race has done is, ah we were experts at, you know, cause if we wanted to create a solar system with certain types of life forms in it, then we would create that sun with the, those materials.
00:31:06
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e So like builders, architects, engineers kind of setting the stage. Yeah. Yeah. You know and so we also travel and assist. See, earth is a special place, very special place.
00:31:20
Speaker
um But it's special in a way that's because kind of tragic. it' It's special. um And that's mainly because we've been so interfered with and and other highly negative races kind of were here before the the benevolent races.
00:31:36
Speaker
So they were here doing all kinds of experiments on on humans. And, you know, we're the we are the seventh incarnation of humanity.
00:31:48
Speaker
We've been six other times. Yeah. Okay. So these, uh, is this like the cycles that I've heard about? Like the, there are like different civilizations like Atlantis or any, you know, Lemuria or other things that have come and gone.
00:32:05
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Yeah. See, they the Lemuria and Atlantis is from this cycle. Okay. um So we were kind of human the way we are now.
00:32:16
Speaker
Okay. We were just a little different, you know. Like Lemuria was all the Native American races. That's where they're from and some of the Russian ah groups in Japan.
00:32:27
Speaker
So that's that group. But then the Atlantean group Atlantis, you know, in the East Coast of the U.S. and into the Atlantic was a mixture of races as well, but there were two different distinct types of reptilian that lived there.
00:32:46
Speaker
And then there were um other, you know, what what we call modern humans as well. You know, so that was a whole different, you know, type of of of group.
00:32:58
Speaker
So they started fighting and knocked each other out. But for the most part, ah that that There were six times. You know, we've been manipulated by this reptilian group for, I don't know, three million years or longer.
00:33:16
Speaker
So not the Anunnaki? Well, part of the Anunnaki. Okay. Yeah. there One of the reptilian races is hadrosaur-based race, and they're the only intelligent life forms that started and evolved exclusively on Earth. So they're the only true earthlings.
00:33:34
Speaker
But they're indifferent to humans. You know, they don't really care much about us. Where the Anunnaki started developing us and to create a modern type of human, but we kept, you know, populating and then we would rebel and fight back. And so they would wipe us out and they'd start again.
00:33:54
Speaker
And this is the seventh time, but now there's no way they can, you know, we have support from benevolent forces and the confederation of planets and, you know, other federations as well.
00:34:05
Speaker
So there's this intervention taking place now where we are evolving and moving forward. Yes, because in that process, it's sort of an unwritten rule that when a race evolves to the point where they can leave their planet, you know, they can get in ships and they go places, and then they have that spiritual backing as well, this is provided you're a positive race, um then you're obligated to go to other planets and
00:34:36
Speaker
who are lower evolutionarily than you are. That's why we have so many, and because there are many, many thousands of planets with with intelligent groups and they just travel around like and help.
00:34:51
Speaker
They help other races. And so that's why earth, everybody knows that earth has been highly interfered with. And we're a really difficult place, you know, to kind of live because there's such a balance of negative and positive mixtures of of people and souls here.
00:35:08
Speaker
So it's kind of notorious throughout the galaxy that if you want to evolve your soul quickly, go incarnate on Earth. You know, it's a tough place. This is like speed school.
00:35:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's boot camp. Oh my gosh. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I've heard, i mean, obviously with the polarity and the way things are, you know, all of this change is happening so quickly now, it seems like, um, and also I've heard that this is, you know, the most interesting place to be. This is one it's I sometimes look at it as it's like the wild west of the universe.
00:35:44
Speaker
Yeah. It's just, you know, and this is where you come to cut your teeth. Yeah. You know, and now there's a risk of doing that, though, because if um if you come in as a outside race or a star seed, whatever you want to call it, and you forget and you never do any kind of work to remember who you are, then you get stuck in the incarnation cycle of Earth until you remember.
00:36:09
Speaker
That may be number of lifetimes. You know, that's why i say what I say. It's like, okay, you don't have to believe me. Just kind of hear me and it might assist you if it'll wake you up. Yeah. at some point in your life.
00:36:22
Speaker
Well, I mean, clearly have an open mind and, you know, i really appreciate you sharing this. What, You talk about remembering and and awakening.
00:36:35
Speaker
What might have been that point for you? And when did you remember your mission or or what is your mission and and why did you come here? Well, I didn't really fully remember why I agreed to come come here until just a few years ago.
00:36:53
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um But I had like a Kundalini awakening. i had a a whole spiritual thing happen. And through that process, many more memories came in and I'm like, oh, it all makes sense now.
00:37:07
Speaker
Was that through some kind of meditation or Well, through meditation, absolutely. A lot of memories would come in there because but you know what you got to do is silence that analytical mind, right? And allow that subconscious mind, including memories, just float to the surface. you know So you're still thinking, but you're not analyzing what's coming in.
00:37:28
Speaker
uh, through meditation and that's really, really helpful. And so I pulled a lot of memories or made sense of other memories as well. Cause sometimes I have a memory, but I have no context, you know, and it takes a little while for that context to come through. Yeah. Did you, had you already had your out of body experience by this point?
00:37:49
Speaker
Yeah, my out of body experience, I was like 21, you know, uh, so I had already gone, you know, in this lifetime, I'd already gone and came back, moved back in time and then lived 21 years before I had my out of body experience, you know, and that was just, uh, I can tell you about it if you want.
00:38:08
Speaker
Um, my, I was actually. Yeah, if you wouldn't mind, I mean, just briefly for the viewers to to kind of share about that. Yeah, I was actually abducted. i was drugged.
00:38:20
Speaker
And I was abducted for, was like a week and a half or so. And I was actually continually drugged, injected with something, I don't know what.
00:38:32
Speaker
And I was, you know, I was driven around in a limousine from house to house. And then when I wasn't doing whatever it was they wanted to do to me, um,
00:38:44
Speaker
they kept me in this room in some building. It was in the downtown of a major city. And so I had been over a week and I'm lying in bed, you know, half-drugged again.
00:38:59
Speaker
And i could hear two men on my left-hand side talking like right outside the door. The door closed. They were talking what they were going to do with the body.
00:39:10
Speaker
take me to to the desert, bury me out there, dump dump me somewhere. So suddenly after I heard that, I was no longer in my body. I was now standing at the foot of the bed, facing, looking at myself.
00:39:25
Speaker
And now i could see I could still hear them talking, but now I heard them out of my right ear. you know So I was now facing the opposite direction, looking at myself. And then i just hear this voice,
00:39:37
Speaker
that I know is did not them, which is, you have to get out of here. Or, you know, I forget the exact words, but it was basically, you must leave now, I think is what it was. And and it was very strong, you know, you must leave now.
00:39:52
Speaker
But I was still drugged. So the next thing I know, I'm back in my body, eyes closed, and then someone's slapping me in the face, you know, rapidly, drumming on my face. opened my eyes and there's this form looks like a male, but it was just like a silhouette.
00:40:10
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Yeah. And they're slapping me on the face. and that It was somebody trying to wake me up and bring me out of my drugged state. So that woke me up and I was able to get out of there. And I, I was, a there was a window and I crawled down a fire escape. And um then I ah was able to find an emergency room and You know, rest is history.
Spiritual Awakening and Integrating Experiences
00:40:33
Speaker
So that was my out of body. I was i was only out of my body in like two seconds, you know, but it was a pretty interesting experience. I would say still a profound experience.
00:40:43
Speaker
ah so the Okay, so this was before the Kundalini awakening. Right. Okay. The Kundalini was like 10 to 15 years ago. Okay. Somewhere around 2005.
00:40:56
Speaker
five to two to 2010 somewhere okay and you so you said you kind of only realized maybe like your your mission or why you were here a few years ago so the after the kundalini awakening right the kual kundalini experience just opened vastness to me okay no and then i began ah was able then to astral travel i could go out and do things. And I would do that while I would be ah meditating. I would just leave the body and go visit different places and people. Oh, yeah. So I was kind of having fun with it.
00:41:32
Speaker
But then in that process, I was receiving other visitors also. These new visitors, they weren't just like shadowed, you know, like shadows or anything. They were full body aliens.
00:41:45
Speaker
Okay. know, all these different shapes and sizes. And it turns out these were all people, individuals that I knew from the space program, but I didn't remember that exactly then, you know? And so through that process, they would come in and help me remember who they were, you know, and then they were part of it.
00:42:07
Speaker
Chris, were these beings like, uh, alien beings that you worked with or were these humans that you worked with in their sort of star form? Uh, I love the way you said that humans in their star form.
00:42:22
Speaker
Um, no, they were, a ri they were entities and individuals that I was literally physically in working with. You had interacted with.
00:42:34
Speaker
Yes. Okay. Yeah. but So they were assisting you in remembering this experience. Yes. And so it just began like floodgate of of all these amazing memories that I would, I had to accept the fact they were memories, you know, and then once I accepted that they were memories and not just me making things up.
00:42:58
Speaker
Then more came through. And then the context of things came through. And so it just, it was like an epiphany where I began to understand all these these random memories. And it had to be a lot to understand. i mean, like that you had experienced all that. How did you cope with all that?
00:43:17
Speaker
i was amazed by it. Yeah. I was just like, wow, this is amazing. This is so interesting and cool. So it wasn't this negative thing. It was like, oh my gosh, this this really happened.
00:43:30
Speaker
Yeah. once i Once I integrated that, it it everything just fell into place and I suddenly had peace because I was in turmoil for years. you know, like, you know, kind of tortured with these, these memories and it was just, I was fighting them. And once I just accepted them and they all came in, I'm like, oh, then they all fit.
00:43:51
Speaker
So it's like, yeah, this key unlocked, like, okay, it all makes sense now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty amazing. Actually. Fair enough. Wow. So then what, at what point, what was the experience that led you to gain clarity on your mission?
00:44:10
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I don't remember exactly the moment, ah but it was when I began, ah i always had like a resonance of I'm here to help, you know, at some level.
00:44:23
Speaker
um But then once I had all these memories, then they made sense to me. I'm like, oh, and then about four or five years ago, than the actual moment,
00:44:36
Speaker
memory of um of meeting with the U.S. military representative before I was ever born. I was in another physical form.
00:44:47
Speaker
And we met with the U.S. military and made a plan. and And then when that memory came through, then I'm like, oh, I remember now. I'm i'm basically just here because I wanted to work and And I wanted to work with the United States or with the Earth through the United States on the MEMA station.
00:45:12
Speaker
That was my goal. But I couldn't do it as another race representing Earth. I had to be human. So I had to incarnate on Earth and be born on Earth.
00:45:27
Speaker
So that's the only thing is because, you know, there's a non-interference rule basically that's in place. that that You can't, as another benevolent race, ah come in and interfere directly without permission of the confederation or the federation.
00:45:43
Speaker
um You have to have permission. yeah The way around that is, if you are born as a human, so you move your soul into a human form, now you're part of the human race.
00:45:57
Speaker
And then your challenge is to remember that. And then your challenge is to figure out what your mission is. And now you can interact and work and say whatever you want to say and do whatever you want to do because you're technically ah human being.
Earth's Energy Grid and Space Program Complexities
00:46:13
Speaker
When did that start? The, um you know, the order of non-interference or. ah You know, that's question. ah It was, it was, i think about the same time as this modern human um experience and experiment started.
00:46:36
Speaker
So it was after the other six races of humans were wiped out and they weren't as modern as we are, you know, because we're a mixture of like 22 different races, you know, off planet races.
00:46:51
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know if a lot of people realize that, but we are this conglomeration of things. Yeah. Yeah, you know, ah technically 23, you know, youac if you include the XY chromosome, male, female.
00:47:04
Speaker
Other than that, all males and females are basically a mixture of 22 others. That made the modern human. It was a huge success. um But that was probably 60, some 70,000 years ago.
00:47:19
Speaker
sixty some seventy thousand years ago when this particular group of humans, ah there were still some others running around like Neanderthals and, you know we you know, like the Sasquatch and the Bigfoot, they were already here.
00:47:34
Speaker
um And so there was another group that they started, and this is before Atlantis was wiped out and Lemuria sank. and um And so I would say about that time is when the benevolent forces came in and they started building pyramids.
00:47:54
Speaker
Now, the reason for the pyramids was because they what they needed to do is because the earth has a natural electromagnetic web net grid that's natural. You know, that's what vortices are. Vortices are energy coming in and out of the earth. And then so these are all connected.
00:48:11
Speaker
Ley lines. Ley lines, yeah. um Well, they needed they needed it to be stronger. So they started building pyramids to pull energy out of the Earth and send it up into the into the electromagnetic sphere.
00:48:24
Speaker
Okay, so to amplify the energy. To amplify it. Then once they were able to do that, they were able to put an energy grid on it that a ship can't land here without technically without permission.
00:48:38
Speaker
Now, yeah, we do see ships all the time, most of those. or human, um because we've built many thousands of ships, of United States alone, many, many, many thousands of ships we've built. So that's what we see a lot.
00:48:56
Speaker
But then there were other ships that are already here, so they were trapped on Earth. So, you know, that's the benevolent forces, the Confederation of Planets, came in and put basically a grid around the Earth and not allowing some of these highly negative groups to come in force.
00:49:14
Speaker
Okay. So protection. Yeah. And we're still protected.
00:49:20
Speaker
And so we're, we're evolving and you. So getting back to your mission, you came here to what? To help this what hell awakening.
00:49:34
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Because part of this evolution of of the of the soul of the individual is also part of the evolution of the whole race, human race.
00:49:46
Speaker
And we do that, we evolve each of us through information. you know through acceptance, through ah spiritual seeking.
00:49:57
Speaker
This is you know the way it's basically done. ah Because we're moving moving into a higher vibrational frequency where we're going to have different abilities as human beings.
00:50:08
Speaker
There are people that are developing. Like I said, on our pineal gland, there are calcite crystals inside. We're going to begin developing little crystals on the outside.
00:50:20
Speaker
And I'm not talking about the fluoride stuff. You know, that we, you know, do need to kind of clean that out, but we will develop these other crystals and that creates an antenna. So then we are highly connected to the cosmos and one another.
00:50:35
Speaker
So when that starts happening, people will probably freak out because there will be negative... Factions that say, oh, you know, they're creating this in your brain. Well, yeah, no, we're evolving as a being, physical being, to be a more and greater spiritual being.
00:50:51
Speaker
and So when that process starts, don't freak out. Yeah, no, it's it's interesting, you know, as I'm hearing you talk, like, you know, there' there's mediums um of varying abilities that can see things that, you know, maybe i can't see or or whatnot.
00:51:07
Speaker
But there's also, you know, I've had people talk about sightings with UFOs where they're with a group of people and they or several people in the group see it and other people don't.
00:51:21
Speaker
So it's it's almost like, i I don't know if it's frequency or what, but some people are able to see things and some people can't. Yeah. know And it's not a judgment on anybody at all. It's just ah sometimes it's not appropriate for some people to see things for one reason or another.
00:51:41
Speaker
and it's And it's not a judgment. It's just like they're yeah either not ready for that or they're going to have another type of contact that best benefits them. So... Chris, one of the questions just popped in my head. Is the secret space program or what people know that, is it benevolent?
00:52:02
Speaker
It's like our military. It's like our government. There are factions on both sides. There are those that are there in charge and they're generally, some of them are are genuine and they're wanting it to be for protection and for the you know service of of the nation and the earth.
00:52:23
Speaker
But then within those factions, you know, there are smaller groups and other people that are in it for themselves. and They, they end up playing themselves out, but you can't really call any of these groups,
00:52:38
Speaker
one or the other, they're, they're a mixture. Okay. So there, there's white hats and black hats and a mixture of things. What is with the, um, you know, Genesis of the space force a few years ago, like how does that, is that to welcome in the secret space program and to make it more widely known or how does that, how is that working out?
00:53:04
Speaker
as As best I know, it is it was basically, it's so it's existed for a lot longer, but it wasn't as organized or in an organized way.
00:53:15
Speaker
And it was basically part of disclosure, telling people, you know, ah this is what we've got going, you know, get used to this term. And then later on, when we tell you, oh, wait, we've already had ships that can travel intergalactically.
00:53:30
Speaker
They want free. Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, that's exactly what, when I first learned about the secret space program and then Space Force magically came out of it to existence. I'm like, okay, they're setting the stage for this to become, to come out, yeah you know, with disclosure.
00:53:46
Speaker
ah How do you see disclosure playing out? do you have any insight into that? i mean, people toss out dates, you know, to, you know, 2026, 2027. You know, when is the, you know, ah spaceship going to land on the the White House lawn or some variation of different things? Or what is your sort of take on disclosure? What does it mean to you?
00:54:08
Speaker
Well, yeah. for the most part, all these benevolent races that are there, they're literally just waiting for us to get on. Uh, because they, they can't come and land on the white house lawn until the majority of people accept that they exist because it would, it would, it would, um, it would break free will. It would, uh, a bridge free will of people that don't want to know.
00:54:37
Speaker
So those people that are stuck in the old, kind of have to die off, you know, and then it's a younger, more accepting thought pattern has to be in in place. Not, not every single human, but the majority of people have to be able to accept it. And also they're not going to land if we're going to shoot at them, you know, now look we can't get along with one another. How do we expect to get along with another race?
00:55:08
Speaker
Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, that's kind of where we're at, right? Like where, where are we going to go? Are we going to keep repeating these patterns and programs of war and, you know, destruction and fear, or are we going to evolve into a more open and loving civilization and society where we, we truly do care about the wellbeing of one another?
00:55:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. They're just waiting for that. They literally are. ah the, the only way they would come in in force is if somehow a negative force was able to penetrate the grid and and come in, then they would have to come in and balance it out and try to stop them.
00:55:50
Speaker
They would do that. um Or if there was a cataclysm about to happen on Earth or just happened on Earth, ah they would all land and be of assistance.
00:56:01
Speaker
But we don't want to go that route.
Near-Death Experiences and Deems Device
00:56:03
Speaker
I would prefer not know. Um, you have had a number of remarkable experiences.
00:56:13
Speaker
Um, I didn't get into mine, but I have as well. I feel like I, I got to see the other side and know that, ah But you don't have to have an NDE to ah experience certain things. what What message would you give to those who haven't had an NDE but want to know maybe what that's like to maybe dispel some fear around that?
00:56:39
Speaker
ah Well, that's that's really good. ah Because we're being met by people that love us in an NDE. Right. that know us and that are our guides and are communicating with us whether we're aware of it or not.
00:56:53
Speaker
You know, those are miraculous moments where something happened that you're like, that should not have happened. That's guidance. They're like helping you along in your life. And so know that.
00:57:05
Speaker
Know that you're not alone. there There are beings that know everything more about you than you know about yourself and that they are there to support you 100%.
00:57:18
Speaker
all the time. You're never, never alone. Now, lot of times we have visitations from things that are not as benevolent, um but they're always monitored.
00:57:29
Speaker
And even though they might be frightening, it's usually being allowed for um the growth of the soul. Because if you don't have little experiences that are a little scary, you don't become accustomed to the fact that there are other beings and entities.
00:57:44
Speaker
And that's what we have to do is we have to understand that none of this is random. You know, our lifetime, you know, we choose our experiences and we choose some of the experiences that are uncomfortable to help wake us up.
00:57:58
Speaker
And so just know that you're fully protected no matter what at all times. Yeah, those are very powerful words to share. Thank you.
00:58:10
Speaker
ah Chris, would you mind sharing ah information on the Deems device and your inspiration and how that came to be with your invention?
00:58:23
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. i actually got it. i have one here. um ah got it from the space program. You know, see, it looks a bit like an Ankh because this has been around for many thousands of years. So this is like a modern Ankh.
00:58:40
Speaker
Now the Ankh is used for healing. and Okay. Yeah. cause so Can you give a little history on the Ankh? Yeah. The Ankh basically was built the same way this is. And I'll tell you about that.
00:58:52
Speaker
Okay. And they were used to a focus energy on the body. And they were used in meditation. They were used in physical healing of the body.
00:59:04
Speaker
ah Because within the Ankh, there were like copper tubes, really. And there was gold in the in them. Some of them were made of gold. This is 24 karat gold.
00:59:15
Speaker
um the Some of the others are not. but And and there were it was magnetite that would be placed in crystals and gemstones within the ankhs.
00:59:26
Speaker
And that created a frequency. and um And so they would use it for pain relief. They would use them for ah healing the body. And so that's what the onks were really for. And they were for focusing energy and they could actually communicate ah telepathically using onks and such as that. And so this is basically the same thing, but in a different form.
00:59:51
Speaker
Okay. And how you said it came from the secret space program. So is this, how did it come to be, or is it did something you worked on or came across in your, your work?
01:00:02
Speaker
I literally worked with these in the SSP. Um, their versions are not as kind and loving as this version. Uh, there's our electronic and they're programmable with the computer.
01:00:15
Speaker
And like I said, each of our pineal glands have a, um, frequency. They can program their device um with your frequency and they can erase your memory with them.
01:00:29
Speaker
This cannot do that because it's fully magnetic, only magnets, and it's all natural. um And it has eight carrots of diamonds and beeswax and 14 magnets. these are It doesn't look highly magnetic, but it's super magnetic.
01:00:45
Speaker
And what what this does is it creates a series. There's split half in the middle inside. And then there's 13 magnets and it creates a series. And it wants to come around and do this, right? That's the magnetic field wanting to do, you know like in the series of magnets.
01:01:02
Speaker
And then as as it comes up, and it comes up and wants to go around and go back down, this magnet pushes it out. So as it's coming around, it's being pushed out also.
01:01:15
Speaker
And that creates a vortex. Now that vortex of energy creates a zero point. on the end of the energy. And it also creates a piezoelectric energy, which is what our brain creates in the pineal gland.
01:01:28
Speaker
And then in it's the signals of your brain, you know, the synapses, electrical signals, and then the signals through the nervous system are all piezoelectric energy, which is 100% natural energy created naturally.
01:01:44
Speaker
And you can create it through the compression of those calcite crystals. And you can also create it if you so you know put pressure on or smash a quartz crystal, for example, you'll see a flash of energy. Well, you've created piezoelectric energy.
01:01:58
Speaker
And that's what our whole body, the electrical system of our body is piezoelectric. The other way you can create piezoelectric energy is if you force a magnet to go against its you know what what it wants to do. So for example, um this one, this is how it wants to rest.
01:02:18
Speaker
The magnetic field is how, this is what it wants to do. But I twist it and force it against and put it in that way and that creates piezoelectric energy.
01:02:31
Speaker
So not only is it highly a vortex of highly magnetic energy, it's piezoelectric energy and perfectly you know natural energy that interacts with the the nervous system of the body extremely well.
01:02:46
Speaker
And then the reason for the eight carats of micro diamonds inside is that diamonds focus the energy. You know, they they help as a magnetic field is being created.
01:02:59
Speaker
Then you have all these diamonds pushing it up and out. And it just it just makes it a stronger device. And then some of them, I quote in 24 carat gold because the body, human body loves gold.
01:03:12
Speaker
You know, um and so that's why people that wear a lot of gold and diamonds and stuff tend to live longer. You know, people used to say that women live longer than men because they don't work as hard, which is such BS.
01:03:27
Speaker
um But what it is, is women tend to wear more gold and jewelry and diamonds. interesting That's what this is, golden diamonds. And it creates, you know, it relieves pain because it interacts with the nervous system.
01:03:40
Speaker
You know, can I sometimes when you have an injury and you have pain because you have inflammation, this breaks it all down. You know, people with um arthritis, this is excellent for chronic pain, and but it also helps to stimulate the cells in the nerves to repair and to grow and to heal.
01:03:58
Speaker
So that's what it is. It came from the SPACE program, and I actually had to write and sign a contract with the SPACE program negotiating my last 20 years, and I told them, I want to release this device without you interfering.
01:04:15
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you know, or without being in trouble or whatever, you know, and because I want to release this to humanity because this is an amazing tool, you know, so that's what
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it is. That's the Dean's device.
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Now, can it help, um, activate the pineal gland? Oh, yes. Okay. and One of the first things people do, because the on the gold one, the gold side the vortex side. So there's like a little tornado you know ah vortex. on There's another, this is nickel on this side. It's where the energy is going in.
01:04:49
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um But other devices are all nickel. So they have like a little red dot. So that would be the the vortex side. So if you put like the vortex side, like right there,
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you can feel that energy going straight into your brain you can do it anywhere but this is the one of the most sensitive places that yeah we'll feel it okay yeah people that have never felt energy flowing in their body well they have but they didn't know what it was or yeah into it they'll hold this device and what it does is it brings in a lot more energy and they can feel their Almost every single one person says, oh, it's coming through my feet and all the way up my body. I'm like, yeah, because you're drawing it out of the earth, which you do all the time anyway, but it's so subtle. We don't notice it. Well, this just pulls a lot more in. It's just amplified and you can feel it with greater.
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Wow. Exactly. So, you know, a lot of people, you know, they like them. Yeah. Well, and I believe you have a YouTube video, a YouTube channel. Yeah, I do. ah ah have quite a few videos on there, but if there's there's one that explains this in much greater detail.
01:06:05
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Okay. Yeah, I'll link that in the show notes. But they can search YouTube Divine Evolution 777, and they can find it or you know go through the link or Chris O'Connor deems.
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um And then if you do Chris O'Connor deems, that should pop up. Yeah. so And is the website, is it deemsdevice.com or? um Well, there's there's several, but they all point to one place.
01:06:32
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So Deems company or Deems device. Okay. The same website. Excellent. Yeah. Well, check it out. it looks like a very interesting tool. You know, talking about the energy and the pyramids and frequency and vibration, it looks like it's a ah great tool.
01:06:49
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You know, talk about Nikola Tesla and frequency, vibration and and healing. There's a lot too to that that I think is untapped. Absolutely. It's all about energy.
01:07:02
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You know, frequency, vibration. Well, Chris, thank you so much for being here and sharing your story. When is the book coming out? I keep asking myself that.
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um It's going to be a little while still. I've gotten some writing, lot of it written, ah but I've got to, you know, then I have to have somebody else kind of go over it and just see another set of eyes and just try to tell it in a more comprehensive way.
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well you know and it Looking forward to it. And thank you again for sharing your time. Absolutely. Thank you for the invitation. Much love. All right. Much love to you. Thank you. Thank you so much for tuning in today and being with us. May you find joy, flow, and adventure on your journey.
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