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Cryptids & Curiosity: A Journey with Nate the Great
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Join me for a special episode of The Journey Mindfulness Podcast as I sit down with my brilliant young nephew and cryptid expert—Nate the Great—for an unforgettable exploration of curiosity, wonder, and the world’s most mysterious creatures.
From the Kentucky Goblin to the Ogo Pogo and the colossal Alvin Sea Serpent, Nate shares vivid stories, theories, and his own creative perspective on cryptids that blur the line between myth and reality. We talk about why staying curious matters, how imagination fuels discovery, and what these legends can teach us about ourselves.
Whether you’re a believer, a skeptic, or simply someone with a love of the unknown, this episode is a reminder that the magic of the world is always waiting for those brave enough to look for it.
Highlights:
- The origins of Nate’s fascination with cryptids
- Famous and obscure creature sightings across North America
- The Kentucky Goblin, Fetus Lake Monster, Ogo Pogo, and more
- How curiosity inspires creativity and courage
- Nate’s vision for his future as a comic artist
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Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
00:00:13
Speaker
Welcome back to the Journey Mindfulness Podcast, where we explore the edges of inner awareness, mystery, and the extraordinary. Today's episode is a special one, and I mean, truly special one.
00:00:27
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I'm joined by someone near and dear to my heart. my brilliant nephew, the great Nate. Nate may be young in years, but he's already on his way to becoming an expert in one of the most fascinating realms of curiosity, cryptids.
00:00:44
Speaker
From Bigfoot to the Mothman, Nessie to the New Jersey Devil, Nate knows the legends, the sightings, and the stories behind these elusive beings. Not only is he a walking encyclopedia of strange creatures, but he's also a talented artist who brings these mysteries to life through his vivid imagination and drawings.
00:01:06
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This episode is about wonder, mystery, and how staying curious at any age keeps the magic of the world alive. So buckle up for an inspiring and insightful conversation with a truly gifted young mind.
00:01:21
Speaker
Let's dive into the world of cryptids and creativity with the great Nate. Nate, welcome. a How are you doing today?
00:01:32
Speaker
and do I'm doing pretty good. Yeah. Are you ah ready to have some fun? Yes.
Understanding Cryptids: Definition and Origins
00:01:39
Speaker
Okay, mean well, we're going to dive in What exactly is a cryptid for those that don't know? What's a cryptid?
00:01:47
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A cryptid is a creature that... It could be something like, let's say Bigfoot. It has sightings, but necessarily no one knows what yes or if it or if it exists.
00:02:07
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So there's mystery behind its existence? Yeah. And many people may have a different opinion on if this creature slash being exists.
00:02:20
Speaker
Yeah. Have you seen a cryptid yet? No. Okay. Just checking, you know? Because some people have, right? That's why why it's so exciting.
00:02:32
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ah How did you first become interested in cryptids?
00:02:38
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Well, when I was little, I used to go onto YouTube and search up cryptids. Mythical creatures. And i would, for about two hours, I would watch those, I would watch videos about creatures that very fast that very much fascinated me.
00:02:57
Speaker
Yeah. Was there one creature that really sparked your interest? Like, what was the one, the first cryptid or mythical creature that that sparked it for you?
00:03:07
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That got you excited about it? The Kentucky Goblin. Ooh.
00:03:15
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Oh my goodness. What fascinated you about the Kentucky goblin? I just thought the sightings, the sightings of this creature ah were very, very cool. And the mystery, even though the mystery hasn't been solved, it just, it seems, its just seems like a very cool creature.
00:03:38
Speaker
Um, excellent. Well, let's, do you want to start with the Kentucky goblin? Like give us some information about it and kind of what, what people would be interested in knowing about it? Like where when did the sighting start or, you know, what, what, what's the story behind the Kentucky goblin?
00:03:55
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Sure.
The Kentucky Goblin Sighting and Analysis
00:03:57
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um So can the Kentucky Goblin, also known as the Hopkinsville Goblin, its first sighting was probably the mid-50s, where two men who lived in a farmhouse,
00:04:12
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um no they were um being um attacked by some sort of creature, which um this creature, what looked,
00:04:26
Speaker
Well, these creatures looked like um well um a species of ape. Okay. then long eyes and their They had long arms and their eyes went from the side of their heads.
00:04:43
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And apparently didn't have noses, I'm pretty sure. Okay, and this is in 1955? I'm not sure, but it's somewhere close to that year.
00:04:56
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Okay. All right. So I'm just looking it up real quick here. It looks like August 21st, 1955. Okay. You're right. Hopkinsville, Kentucky.
00:05:07
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The Sutton family claimed that a group of small glowing eyed creatures emerged from the woods and terrorized their farmhouse for several hours.
00:05:20
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And... One of them actually got attacked by a buy one of those creatures. And what happened, man right the with his shotgun.
00:05:34
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Uh-huh. Or just And said, apparently the creature grabbed his hair on... ah huh or just gone and he said the creature grabbed his hair and um me apparently the creature was on top of um not sure what it's called, but the thing that covers the rain when it comes down and, well, just part of the roof.
00:06:06
Speaker
Yeah, okay, like a covering. Yeah, it came down from that thing and it pulled his hair and he got so... He got very scared and...
00:06:19
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like Yeah, I mean, who wouldn't? Oh my gosh. And so you tell me, this is what um some of the the bullet points I'm looking at. You tell me which ones are accurate or not, because I know you know a lot about it and and you know everything you read on the internet is not always true.
00:06:38
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So it says the goblins were about three to four feet tall. Yeah, that's correct. Large pointed ears, claw-like hands, glowing yellow eyes,
00:06:52
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metallic skin okay now this one i did not know they hovered or floated instead of walked okay so there's there are two there are three things that are not true and the rest are true um the first thing they had don't They had glowing orange eyes.
00:07:17
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Okay. I've seen that in a lot of videos I've seen. Gotta get the details right, man. That's good to hear. And then instead of, they might have had metallic skin, but it to me it was pale or green.
00:07:33
Speaker
Pale greenish. Like just a pale green. Okay. and they did not hover. they what They either they either walked on two feet Or they, or they, um, or they walked on all fours.
00:07:49
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I'm not sure it might be both. Okay. They did not hover. Okay. Now, now this says you, you were correct. So they were shooting at them and they were reportedly unfazed and returned.
00:08:07
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Like the creatures were unfazed. They weren't hurt and they returned multiple times during the night. So this was like an an ongoing thing. Yeah. And so that, and that also means that there was a lot of, a lot of those creatures because
00:08:26
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All right. Yeah. Was there a count? Did they have and ah like how many were there or did they know or just ah maybe when you're that scared, it's hard to count.
00:08:37
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I'm not sure. I've never heard. I've never had a I've never had a full count, but it was definitely more than 10 of 10 goblins. Okay. Now, you know me and my interests, right?
00:08:50
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Mm-hmm. Okay. I put in the Kentucky Goblin in ChatGPT, so as I did not write this. It says there is a UFO connection.
00:09:01
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It says just before the incident, one family member claimed to have seen a bright object streak across the sky and land nearby. This led many to believe the goblins were extraterrestrial beings, possibly crash landed aliens.
00:09:18
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Yeah, that's what I think, too. You think that? I didn't know that. It was because if they are unfazed and they're extraterrestrial... tren to Okay, you know, extraterrestrial, multidimensional maybe? Like, it's, ah you know, they're the bullets are going right through them. They're not in this world, but not being hit by that?
00:09:42
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Wow. and And so I'm looking here, too, like there was some... interesting explanations ah for for what these might have been. What what did people, you know, for like a skeptic, right? Because there's always skeptics who like, oh, that didn't happen, or you you're mistaking, you know, a god you think you saw a goblin, but it was really something else. What what did people say?
00:10:07
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what what what did skeptics say about it? um Some kind of eight Some kind of ape-goblin hybrid.
00:10:19
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Okay. which explains Which explains why some people say, well, I think some skeptics say that it was quadrupedal and walked on all fours.
00:10:34
Speaker
Hmm. Okay. Yeah, another example that I'm reading here, it says a great horned owl, which is interesting. Yeah, it could be it, but if it was a great horned owl, then how would there be oh so many of them?
00:10:51
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Or how would a great horned owl dodge bullets? And pull someone's hair. Yeah, doesn't quite add up. ah What else? ah Or a prank.
00:11:06
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Oh, yeah, prank? i don't know, that seems like a pretty elaborate. I wouldn't want to be pranking someone that's shooting at me. Those old teens. Those old teens in the 1950s. Yeah. um and So I guess the the last thing here that it says that I'm looking at and then is there's no definitive proof or there there hasn't been any proof that's disproved the family's claims.
00:11:34
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So as as fantastic as they are, there hasn't been any you know debunking of the claims per se. It's interesting. Yeah.
00:11:45
Speaker
Oh, Nate. Okay. All right. This is going somewhere that it's
The Thetis Lake Monster: Fact or Fiction?
00:11:51
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interesting to me. Remember I was telling you about that documentary. Yeah. The hell eyes, hell eyes, hellier, hellier.
00:11:58
Speaker
Hellier. Yeah, the Hellier re-documentary. This case gained new life with the Hellier documentary series on Amazon Prime and YouTube. Paranormal researchers Greg and Dana Newkirk followed up on a mysterious email from someone claiming to see goblin-like creatures in eastern Kentucky caves.
00:12:18
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What is the cave out there? Mammoth Cave. Okay, so I watched this documentary several years ago, and when you were talking about the Kentucky Goblin, I was like, man, this sounds a lot like these sightings that were happening in, I guess, eastern Kentucky. um That was very interesting.
00:12:44
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And, you know, um i have two more sightings that I would like to tell you about the Kentucky Goblins. um Yeah, let's ah so just to kind of set the stage for that, are these theories about them? or No, these are like actual sightings about sightings of these creatures.
00:13:07
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All right, let's so let's hear it. So one of the first of the two is um
00:13:17
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couple of Boy Scouts wander in Eastern Kentucky, wandered into mint into Mammoth Cave because I think they... Something... I'm pretty sure they dropped something that they were playing with and it went into the cave.
00:13:36
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And then when they went into the cave... They saw this, they saw e um a creature that looked like a goblin, but had brown fur, red glowing eyes, and tan, pale skin.
00:13:56
Speaker
Okay, what is that? That is one of the ah other descriptions of the Hopkinsville Goblin.
00:14:07
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Do you think there's more than one like species, potentially? think that could be true. Yeah, that's... Like, if there's different types of Bigfoots and different types of Nessies, then there's probably different species of Hopkinsville goblins.
00:14:26
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Yeah, i mean, there's different kinds of, you know, humans as well, right? Like we all how look a little bit different. um What do you, so there's like hollow earth theories or that they're interdimensional bearing beings or elemental spirits or fey-like beings. what What do you think they are?
00:14:48
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think they, there's two things I think they are. Some kind of... First thing, extraterrestrial being comes from maybe a different planet um or dimension and the hollow earth.
00:15:06
Speaker
And the same thing with that, the hollow earth yeah theory. Uh-huh. also... oh And also the... And also that they're just these...
00:15:21
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Well, this is a personal theory. yeah They could be like.
00:15:27
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Unevolved versions of us, which somehow evolved into being into being what they are like. It kind of reminds me of Wrong Turn, like, you know, that horror movie, the wrong wrong turn.
00:15:43
Speaker
Uh, I, I don't know if I've seen that one specifically, but I have a good idea about where you might go with that. yeah Yeah. Because they're mute. It's about like these guys that are mutated and they, and they're like the uninvolved humans.
00:16:01
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So do you think they, could they still be out there?
00:16:07
Speaker
The goblins, the Kentucky goblins. Ooh. All right. I mean, that's... Is there anything we didn't cover with the Kentucky Goblins?
00:16:19
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One thing we have to cover. Yeah. and left The second sighting. ah ah The third sighting we're going to talk about. In the 1800s, which is like way back before any of these... The first sighting of the Hopkinsville Goblins were...
00:16:42
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A miner, well, multiple miners, um went into Mammoth Cave and reported seeing small small creatures that were that were pure that had pure green skin.
00:16:59
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They were very small. and it dad like they And they would drink from the little bits of water in the Mammoth Cave.
00:17:11
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And they, are and they, and I'm pretty sure they were hostile to the humans. Yeah.
00:17:21
Speaker
Um, okay. So is that the first sighting then? Yeah. Yeah. It goes in, it goes in row. Um, that was the first sighting. Then it was the one in the farmhouse.
00:17:35
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And then the next one was the one with the boy scouts. Okay. And do we know what year that was at all? um I can look it up. the way I'm pretty sure was like a couple years after the farmhouse sighting.
00:17:51
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Interesting.
00:18:00
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Interesting. Okay. Well, so there's been interesting sightings down the throughout the years, and I think we i think we got it, man. Anything else with Kentucky Goblin, or should we move on to the next Cryptid?
00:18:18
Speaker
That's all I have to say about my favorite Cryptid. Okay. So the Kentucky Goblin kicked it off. Where we're would you like to go next? Let's take a trip to Canada because we're covering the Thetis Lake Monster.
00:18:34
Speaker
Okay, you're going to have to repeat that name for me again. Thetis, Thetis with a and an Lake Monster.
00:18:48
Speaker
Thetis Lake Monster. Okay. All right. Well, kick it off. What is this? So the Thetis Lake monster was, is a... Do you know the movie um Creature of the Black Lagoon? I'm...
00:19:10
Speaker
Nothing's coming up for me. Well, if you want to Google it, then you should probably Google it because... That is something that is literally this entire cryptid.
00:19:24
Speaker
Okay. um Wait a minute. it's Is this like an old movie? Yeah, it's like from 1945. Oh, okay. I think... So I'm looking at something called Canada's Gill Man.
00:19:39
Speaker
Yep. Okay. So you're you're kind of blowing my mind. i have a very curious mind. um You do as well. You are incredibly open minded.
00:19:51
Speaker
I have I don't believe I've heard of this before. I know because it's so it's such an unknown cryptid. Okay, so I mean, you came prepared. Well done on you. So this is near what Victoria on Vancouver Island.
00:20:08
Speaker
Yep, that's correct. A humanoid aquatic monster. um Okay. So tell us about. ah There's one sighting I'm seeing here, but what which one comes to mind? or Well, there's one.
00:20:24
Speaker
There's only one that. I know. Okay. Well, then. I'm the only one. Okay. What do you got? show So so I'm pretty sure early 20-year-olds were at the lake, were at the fetish lake.
00:20:44
Speaker
Interesting. This is August 19th, 1972. Yep. And they reported seeing a ah semi-aquatic humanoid creature coming out of the water and apparently it's it scratched one of them using its claws so definitely hostile do you think okay i mean was it hostile or were they like swimming in its home they weren't swimming they were it just came from the water out of nowhere it he just walked out of there
00:21:24
Speaker
All right. I mean, this is I haven't seen an image of it yet. I'm going to put some images of these cryptids for those watching it. um But it says, OK, they claimed it had silver scaled skin, sharp barbed fins, webbed hands and a fish like face with bulging eyes.
00:21:47
Speaker
ah That's pretty much the description. And then a few days later, two other teens reported seeing what appeared to be the same creature rising from the water before quickly disappearing.
00:22:03
Speaker
Yep. So what made you bring up this sighting? Well, i think I think that sighting, x it starts it all.
00:22:16
Speaker
Okay. you think these boys made it up or could something really have been in the lake? Well, some people say the second sighting people said that their sighting was a hoax because that's what I heard.
00:22:30
Speaker
Okay. They made it up, you think? Yeah, because if it was hot... hot it's If it scratched someone, then it would be hostile to them.
00:22:43
Speaker
So then it print it makes it pretty obvious that it was that is a hoax.
00:22:51
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Okay.
00:22:54
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Yeah, i mean, it's certainly interesting. what If you were designing the Thetis Lake monster, what would you change or add to it if you were going to make it?
00:23:07
Speaker
Well, I actually draw and ah drawn this when I made two posters. I made two posters with a ton of cryptids on them.
00:23:19
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And made the skin navy blue. ah And their fins red and red.
00:23:24
Speaker
and there're and they're saying and their fins are red and
00:23:31
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And their eyes are just white. Like, just white. No pupils. Okay. That's what I imagined. Is this an image that you could share with me and then we could look at? I don't know.
00:23:43
Speaker
I'm sure that picture Okay. ok ok All right. That's okay. Maybe you can draw one for the show. ah What would you do if you saw a scaly creature rise up from the water?
00:23:58
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Karate kick it.
00:24:01
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really Nate if I saw something like that I would hope you were with me to protect me my friend um all right is there any other movies or anything else besides that that 1945 uh what was it the Black Lagoon Creature of the Black Lagoon there was a sequel there was a sequel The Creature Returns okay And it was literally just what the Thetis Lake monster did.
00:24:32
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it was just the, apparently the monster just got captured and it was an attraction and then it's, it's escapes its enclosure. And then it attacks, it attacks everyone at the.
00:24:50
Speaker
It's probably an aquatic museum. Yeah. All right. Is there anything else that's notable or that you want to add about the Thetis Lake monster?
00:25:03
Speaker
I just want to say this is all honestly one of my favorite cryptids to talk about because the because we no one knows if it's a hoax or if it's or if it's real.
00:25:17
Speaker
But I'm pretty sure it's a it's it was a real cryptid because the other one was a hoax. And if it was hostile for the first time. Then who would know who would know if it was real?
00:25:30
Speaker
So no one knows. Okay, and wait, you're talking about a different one? This isn't the Thetis Lake monster? No, the Thetis Lake monster. The second sighting, the two teens said it was a hoax.
00:25:45
Speaker
They revealed to to everyone that it was a hoax. Okay. and But the first one, they stayed, those two men, those two people stayed completely silent with their mouths shut.
00:26:03
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Mike, you think they told the truth and just were afraid to talk about it again? Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting, you know, when people have experiences, how. ah
00:26:14
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What they do with that, you know, because sometimes they're afraid, you know, to be open to to ridicule and stuff like that, are they just it's better not to talk about it. ah But yeah, it's it's interesting.
00:26:29
Speaker
ah Should we move on to the next cryptid? To the third cryptid in our... Yeah, sure. Legends mystery? So... We're going to stay pretty close to Canada.
00:26:46
Speaker
This is another cryptid.
The Legend of the Ogopogo
00:26:48
Speaker
I'm pretty sure it's from Canada. We're going to take a trip to British Columbia. Okay. Okay. And today we're go to be focusing and this one we're going to be focusing on the Ogopogo.
00:27:05
Speaker
Okay, so we're staying in British Columbia. Ogopogo.
00:27:13
Speaker
All right, kick it off, man. What do we need to know about the Ogopogo? What is the origin sightings of that? The Ogopogo is a Nessie variant. it's british It's British Columbia's version of Nessie.
00:27:29
Speaker
Nessie being the Loch Ness Monster, the famous Loch Ness Monster. And so this creature, um it is said to have humps Humps on two humps on its back, a very long neck and a horse, a horse or serpent like face.
00:28:01
Speaker
Wow. Okay. That's a,
00:28:06
Speaker
That's pretty, you know, good description of it. well So what are the the origins then of ah sightings? This is actually, okay, this is on so indigenous legend as well.
00:28:21
Speaker
Yeah, because Canada also has Ogopogo as one of their cryptids.
00:28:30
Speaker
Okay, so what I'm checking out right now, it's as long before modern sightings, the Silics First Nations. So native of well the natives of that area spoke of a water spirit called Naha'atik.
00:28:51
Speaker
Naha'atik. That's difficult to pronounce. Um, described as a powerful and sacred being that required offerings when crossing the lake.
00:29:02
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Unlike the modern monster myth, the Naha'atik was not just a creature. It was a spiritual force of nature demanding respect.
00:29:13
Speaker
Indigenous lore casts Ogopogo not as a threat, but as a guardian or force, a different tone than the water monster idea. Okay, interesting.
00:29:25
Speaker
So this kind of goes into your stuff with, like, elemental... Yeah. Yeah. and um Yeah. First Nations, Native Americans have they have a long ah history of you know believing in like sky people ah UFOs and aliens and stuff are one of those are part of.
00:29:48
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, there's far more than I would say that I am educated enough to really articulate. But yeah, i mean, what skinwalkers as well. I'm not sure about skinwalkers.
00:30:00
Speaker
but Well, ah yeah if you go to a a reservation or something. you Yeah, I realized skinwalkers are definitely yeah Native American witches that change their shape.
00:30:13
Speaker
Very interesting. ah there's There's a pretty famous show right now on I think it's the History Channel called Skinwalker Ranch. Oh, I know that place. And that thing is, that place is dangerous.
00:30:28
Speaker
it's ah It's certainly interesting, and there's you know been a long history of investigations, but I know we're getting sidetracked off of Ogopogo. So let's bring it back to, so we we just talked about the origins of it and ah you know the the First Nation history of that.
00:30:47
Speaker
Bring us into the modern sightings. What is the first the first sightings that you can tell us about you know in in more modern times? Well, I'm not sure.
00:30:59
Speaker
do not... I'm not aware any sightings that I can be specific of. Okay. I know that a lot of boaters... I'm pretty sure that a lot of boaters in British Columbia so um claim to so ah so claim to see this creature.
00:31:20
Speaker
Yeah. In the ocean. And it was also... It kind of like all the other Nessie variants, it has a very large body resembling a plesiosaur with flippers.
00:31:40
Speaker
Ooh. How long is it? would say 80 to maybe 100
00:31:48
Speaker
Hmm.
00:31:51
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Snake-like or serpent-shaped pumps rising and falling in the water. Yeah, get and then it says that horse-like head again. That's what you said. um Okay, Ogopogo.
00:32:05
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but There's something to that name. I'm pretty sure it was like... Well, that's actually a lot of stuff in British Columbia that has...
00:32:18
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Pogo, Ogo, that like there's two cryptids I'm pretty sure are in but British Columbia, Manny, Manny Pogo and.
00:32:31
Speaker
um i go Pogo. Are these the same thing or different? They're different. I'm not sure what any of them are. I just saw them in one of my cryptid books and I didn't read anything. I'll make sure to go check them after this.
00:32:50
Speaker
So this is interesting to me. I'm curious what you think. So it says some of the explanations and skepticism for Ogopogo could be floating logs or debris.
00:33:01
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which makes sense. ah Otters swimming in line, which is also interesting. That's like an interesting description because sometimes you see the humps, right? And could it just be otters swimming in in a ah straight line together?
00:33:19
Speaker
Yeah, but to me, that doesn't make a lot of sense because... Otters usually, otters are, oh um for a lot of their ah life are, well, not for a lot of their life because they're usually floating on water, but usually they're diving down for food and it wouldn't make sense for them to be in a straight line because they're Since it's serpent or plesiosaur-like, how would it be like if it looked like it would be swimming in like a serpent motion, like a slithering motion?
00:33:56
Speaker
Yeah. So do you you think a creature like that could just be ah an under undiscovered species? Yeah, like um giant eels.
00:34:10
Speaker
Yeah. Like catty eels. So you think it's possible? Yeah. That's what makes this all so interesting, right?
00:34:21
Speaker
ah What else about the Ogopogo? How does it compare with the Loch Ness Monster or Nessie? Or what's the other? Isn't there another one called Champ or something?
00:34:35
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Champ of Vermont. like Is it Lake lake Champlain? Yeah. Yeah, they're all the, all Nessie variants have something in common is that most of them were described as plesiosaurs.
00:34:51
Speaker
You know, it's funny when I was your age, that's what I, I was convinced that it was just a plesiosaur. And plesiosaurs aren't even, they are not dinosaurs, believe it or not.
00:35:03
Speaker
Yeah, say more. What are they? They are lizards. Okay. Yeah, I mean, that and seemed to make like the most sense to me back in the day when I first heard about that. And it is also interesting, too. Don't you think that there's so many different lake mont i'm calling them blake monsters, although some of them seem friendly.
00:35:27
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ah There's so many of them. Loch Ness, Champ, Ogopogo. I'm sure there's others. Mm-hmm.
00:35:35
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That's just a lot lot of ah sightings in history to to not be, to have some truth to it. I think. What do you think?
00:35:47
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Wait, can you repeat that? Yeah, it just seems like there's so much variety of this, you know, type of monster throughout the world. seems It seems unlikely to me that there isn't some truth to it. And that's, I have a, before we go on to the next cryptid, I would like to say one of my theories.
Global Cryptid Connections: Migration Theory
00:36:06
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Yeah, I would love to hear it. Since there's multiple Nessies, and since they're most, like Nessie variants, variants, that it would make sense. If since if since these are, a lot of people say, a skeptics sometimes say that they are,
00:36:23
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pleossaurs plesiosaurs that survived the ice age and are now alive and they migrate that's my theory they migrated throughout the world and evolved and somehow evolved into the into the unique traits that they have on their body and that's why they're all around the world Yeah, i think I think it's entirely possible, right, that there's some underwater passages, right, that, um you know, submarines or for ah some type of creature like that to be able to go underwater through some tunnel or some other passageway, right?
00:37:07
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Or just swim like five million miles. i Who knows? I don't know. But it's it's certainly interesting for sure. ah Okay.
00:37:20
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what a Why do you think people want to believe in creatures like this? Well, they just want to have something like like me. I just want to be and be someone that I want to be.
00:37:35
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I just want to have things I want to like. You're curious about it. Yeah, because I like these things. I think they're actually interesting. I think you have a very unique and wonderful beginner's mind, right? Like you you're looking at all of the evidence and coming up with a conclusion and and you're open minded. You're not just trying to disprove something.
00:38:01
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You know, you're asking questions, which is what we want to do, right? If we want to find the truth about something, we got to ask questions. Mm hmm. Okay, so where where are we going next?
00:38:13
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Let's take a trip way, far, far away into a tropical place and in the Bahamas.
00:38:25
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Okay. Where
Oceanic Mysteries: The Alvin Sea Serpent
00:38:28
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to? I went to the Bahamas. um Just Bahamas. The Bahamas. All right, the Caribbean.
00:38:36
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Yeah, I just want to go over a couple cryptids that you may see there. Three. So our, okay, we're going into the trifecta here. What do we got?
00:38:48
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All right, so first off, this is my favorite one out of all of them. This one a Nessie variant. In the and the ocean, okay.
00:38:59
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um It is the Alvin sea serpent or Alvin plesiosaur.
00:39:06
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Okay, I've never heard of it. So the description of um skeptics say that it is a large Plesiosaur-like creature that has blue glowing eyes. It has grayish blue scales all around it all around its body.
00:39:27
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And this thing is massive. Okay. It's more than like 150 feet long. Okay, can you repeat it again? The Alvin what?
00:39:39
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Alvin sea serpent or Alvin plesiosaur. Okay. um Now, I mean, that sounds, I don't even know. What's the biggest thing in the ocean? A blue whale, right?
00:39:54
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Yeah, but, yeah, thing is probably, it's, I'm not sure if, it's probably bigger than that. Because this, this thing is absolutely massive.
00:40:06
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Okay, and it's not a megalodon? No, because some sightings might say it has like a fin or like a ah shark tail, but it's not megalodon. It's a plesiosaur, which is why one of its names is Alvin plesiosaur.
00:40:23
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Okay. So the we're going to go on the first and only sighting of this creature, and that's what makes it very interesting.
00:40:35
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All right, let's get into it. So in the Bahamas, there was a and submarine project, um and the submarine was called Alvin, which cryptid its name Alvin Sea Serpent or Alvin Plesiosaur.
00:40:57
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ah And when it went deep underwater, It just saw this huge eye, probably the size of my head. And it was, descriptions say that it was moving past.
00:41:14
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I'm pretty sure it was moving past the submarine with all of its blue and gray scales. Um, oh, wow. Okay.
00:41:26
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Yeah. Yeah, and it's fully, unlike a lot of, um all of like the other Nessie variants, this thing is, this is not semi, this isn't semi-aquatic.
00:41:38
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It's fully, it is fully aquatic. Okay, so this, just to give this some context, Alvin, the sub, the Alvin, was taking a deep dive in the tongue of the ocean near the Bahamas. And the Alvin was a, what does it say? It says a well-respected sub built in 1964 for the U.S. Navy
00:42:03
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capable of diving over one mile deep. And that's when they they were on taking a deep dive when they saw a large long-necked creature that had a thick body and four flippers and a snake-like head.
00:42:23
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Wow. Moving. it appeared to rise from a deep underwater crevasse moving around the sub and then swim upward out of camera range.
00:42:34
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Wow. um I've never heard of this. No, that's what makes it interesting for you.
00:42:43
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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. and So, okay. This is interesting too. It was recorded in the sub's wet log, so what they saw ah down below, but they ah omitted it from the ah official records, reportedly due to skepticism by the surface crew.
00:43:05
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So they came back, they saw what they saw, and then the the crew on the surface wouldn't, didn't put it in to the official record. Because they probably didn't believe them. Yeah.
00:43:18
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This huge thing. Just comes out of nowhere, swims around the submarine, and can't do anything. Yeah. Interesting. I mean, it's, it's, the descriptions do closely match those of a plesiosaur.
00:43:35
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You know, and they, they say it's, you know, considered ah an extinct marine reptile, but. there's they're They're always discovering things or realizing some things are not yeah extinct.
00:43:48
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So that's definitely a compelling story. And they were also, the yeah the the people that saw them were pilots and engineers, which if you know anything about pilots, they are Highly observant, right? They are very mindful, very aware of things because they have to be, you know, very careful when they're navigating their aircraft. So I tend to trust what pilots report because they.
00:44:17
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They have a very, I think, keen eye for observation. Well, like the pilot who drives the submarine sub. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because they have to be all eyes on that radar that senses stuff near the near the boat.
00:44:37
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Yeah. But, yeah, it's, you know. So what what else about this sighting would you like to share before we go on to the, you said there's three of them, so we got a couple more.
00:44:50
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Yeah, we got two more. And so this, I just have one more theory. Okay. So about this, I just have one theory about this.
00:45:03
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So since most of the Nessie variants have pale or green skin, They had this since this one description say blue.
00:45:19
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have a theory that the since it stayed in the water so long and developed gills. um Its skin absorbed water, making the making the color blue on its skin.
00:45:35
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Which I'm not sure if that sounds like it, if that theory makes sense, but it's just that theory. Well, that's the whole thing with science, right? People propose you have a hypothesis and you know you observe it, you test it out, see what what works and what doesn't, right?
00:45:54
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So it's it's good to have one.
00:45:59
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But this this this
00:46:03
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sighting is interesting due to the credibility of the witnesses. um I think that that adds a lot of weight to it for me.
00:46:12
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Okay, so let's move on and let's take a boat trip to the banana holes. Okay. All right.
00:46:23
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um
The Terror of the Luska: Reality or Myth?
00:46:24
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Let's dive in. This creature is called Luska or Luska, also known as Sharktopus.
00:46:36
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Okay. What do we need to know? Where do we start with that? Let's start with the description of the creature. So the top top, the head is a shark.
00:46:47
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It has all the shark teeth and glowing red eyes. The species of shark is either a is a great white shark or a mako.
00:47:00
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I'm pretty sure. Okay. And the bottom half is a red, is a giant octopus body. Except this thing, like the Alvin sea serpent, is massive.
00:47:15
Speaker
Can I just give you a compliment? This says the Luska. yeah my my my chat GPT, my my artificial intelligence here, Nate, says the Luska is a great choice. Often nicknamed the Sharktopus is one of the most terrifying and intriguing sea cryptids in ocean lore.
00:47:35
Speaker
And here's my compliment. I've never heard of this. And i tend to look at things like this. So what? This is crazy. you Unbelievable. Let's. say Say more.
00:47:48
Speaker
um And it turns out the head, even though it has eyes, it's not it. It can't see out those. It's it's you know how the octopuses mouths are in are in between their tentacles and they have their beak.
00:48:07
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Uh-huh. Inside of the of the Luska is its eye, which it sees out of.
00:48:20
Speaker
Which I am pretty sure it sees out of. Okay. Wrong. I mean, this thing is massive. Yeah, it is. Massive. A gigantic sea creature up 75 to 200 feet long.
00:48:36
Speaker
Well, that's a wide thing. That's a very long thing. Yeah. And I bet it's tentacles or I bet his tentacles are a lot of that.
00:48:48
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Like a lot of that. Okay, but then they I'm trying to am imagine have you have you drawn or seen an image of this before? oh I do have a drawing. Okay, because we are probably going have to rely on your drawing because i this I'm trying to picture this in my brain and having a hard time. It's a shark to pussy.
00:49:15
Speaker
Well, I would have to get... I might have to get out of my... Wait, I don't have to get out of my room to get it? Can I grab my thing? No, we'll we'll we'll share it afterwards. I'll add it to that. You don't have to go anywhere.
00:49:28
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Oh, um I'll just I'll put it in when we watch the video. andll We'll see it. But OK, the tentacle lower half of an octopus or a squid.
00:49:39
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Some versions even describe it as entirely cephalopotic, but unnaturally large and aggressive. This chimera like creature earns the nickname shark to buzz for obvious reasons.
00:49:54
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and As if evolution took the deadliest parts of two apex predators and combined them. um Well, octopuses are not predators. So chat GPT is kind of wrong because octopuses are not predators.
00:50:12
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Squids technically are, but like the big ones are, I guess. Yeah. Interesting and call.
00:50:23
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Good catch. ah All right. So the the Bahamas just became less desirable for me to go to. ah what What about sightings? and What's going on there?
00:50:36
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have no, I have like the Alvin Sea Serpent. I have no, I have no specific sightings or any sightings in mind. But this thing is so, it has a sighting because if it didn't have a sighting, then it wouldn't be a fin.
00:50:53
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So it has a sighting. i have no idea of the sighting. It could just be, could be like the Ogopogo where it was people on a boat that just saw this thing near the banana holes or blue holes of the Bahamas.
00:51:12
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So i I don't see any verified sightings here. um Nothing came up, but the it's reported to drag fishermen underwater, pull small boats into whirlpools, create sudden unnatural turbulences in calm blue holes, whatever that means.
00:51:33
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ah Yeah. Interesting. Okay. okay there's There's some science behind the the myth or whatever. it The giant Pacific octopuses can grow, I did not know this, 20 plus feet.
00:51:50
Speaker
Oh, yeah, because they're like, and I'm pretty sure they're the ones that like, that camouflage themselves into stuff. They like change the color of their skin. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's super fascinating.
00:52:07
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Yeah. Yeah. um And they also can appear shark-like underwater in silhouette. And also sharks and large squids slash octopuses do coexist in deep sea trenches.
00:52:23
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Underwater currents in blue holes can be extremely dangerous. Whirlpools, downdrafts, and sudden changes may contribute to mystery and fear. Okay. I mean, these are interesting. And didn't they, was it like a few years ago? they What did they discover they thought was extinct? But the the colossal squid or the giant squid?
00:52:47
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Those things were like, no, like those things were, those things were, have been around for like thousands of years. And they, I've never seen a reporting of giant squints being a lot, just like lot.
00:53:05
Speaker
um ala Well, think they found one. know. I know. The thing that they found a couple years ago, the thing that they... One had a couple years ago.
00:53:19
Speaker
I think you're talking about... I don't know the name of it, but it's like that fish that everyone... It's that fish that everyone thought that was... That everyone thought was extinct until they until they found it in the ocean.
00:53:35
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Which... ah
00:53:39
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which Which one are you thinking of? um yeah It starts with the letter C, but I'm not sure of the name.
00:53:53
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and What am I thinking of?
00:53:59
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You were saying something about the giant squids or the colossal squids.
00:54:07
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Species of giant squid has been filmed in its natural environment for the first time in 100 years. Oh, yeah, because they probably just forgot about them.
00:54:19
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They may have just for forgotten about them.
00:54:24
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This is a BBC article. Wow.
00:54:33
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Wow. Okay, it's called a colossal squid and believed to be the largest squid species in terms of mass weighing up to 500 kilograms. Wow, okay. All right, can we... Yeah, let's let's move on.
00:54:50
Speaker
right. This is going to make... You may think if you got in the Bahamas, you're probably... Since both of the two cryptids we just covered are in the water, you might think you're safe on land.
00:55:02
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You wait. All right. So just when you thought it was safe to go to the Bahamas, it's ah okay. This video is going to get banned in the Bahamas, by the way. But yeah. on and so we're going to talk about Yepo.
00:55:20
Speaker
All right. Can you spell it out for me, please? um It is a Y-E-H-O. Yepo. Okay. Tell us about the Yepo.
00:55:32
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The hell is a hybrid between sloth slot and they human.
00:55:42
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okay Or so I've heard. And it is... Descriptions say it it has very large claws and feet.
00:55:55
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It is not hostile, but can still... It could hurt someone if it it if it made it agitated. And... Excuse me.
00:56:10
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And it This thing also, it can be descriptions also say that it can be bear to monkey. It can be monkey to bear sized.
00:56:22
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Yeah. It can be smart or it can be big. ah And mean it does kind of sound like a ah sloth, like ah a monkey sized, but walking upright. Is it bipedal?
00:56:42
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ah hu I guess if it's walking upright. yeah The Kentucky goblins when they were when I said that they were a quadrupedal and bipedal at the same time.
00:56:58
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ah
00:57:01
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What about are there any famous sightings of this? So this is it's not just the Bahamas. OK, this has been sighted across Cuba. New Guinea.
00:57:13
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New Guinea is, is where they had the sighting. I'm not sure if they had a sighting, but I'm, it's been shown in and New Guinea. Yeah. Well, this is, I know I have no way of verifying this, but Cuba, Hispaniola, Puerto Rico, Trinidad, um the Andros Island in Long Island in the Bahamas.
00:57:38
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So there's a number of of different islands there. that's That's interesting. ah
00:57:46
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What makes this creature so compelling? um Like the Ogopogo, this is a cryptid that is also a spirit by indigenous people. people It could be set as a spirit.
00:58:06
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Yeah.
00:58:09
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So there's, what is this? Remnants of Antillian ground sloths? So there is... The ground sloth. Well, I'm just going to read this. you We can maybe kind of come at this a little from with an open mind. Scholars like Dale Drinan suggest Yeho sightings may stem from memories of now extinct sloths.
00:58:35
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supported by bones in early colonial, um, I don't know what this is trying to say here. um I'm guessing towns, but interesting. And then George Eberhardt notes how African origin folklore may have preserved images of apes or gorillas and then applied them to yeeho which i don't know about that um explains why it says monkey sized yeah but it's a a blend of wild legend legend and ecological possibility um because it could be supernatural or an actual cultural echo of long extinct fauna
00:59:22
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Interesting. What do you think? what i mean like You think it might actually be a real thing? I actually do think it could be a real thing because... Yeah. um like nessie Like Nessie and all of her variants and just since they're... Since a lot of people say they're prehistoric, they are...
00:59:49
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they are um
00:59:53
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Plesiosaurs that survived Ice Age. the ice age and lived, live still live here.
01:00:04
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um that could be just the ground, the idea of the Yeho being a groundsloft, which is extinct and lived throughout the ice age or survived the ice age because they had fur coats.
01:00:21
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They have coats of fur. Mm-hmm.
01:00:26
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Yeah, I mean, what if you could meet a Yeho in the woods, what would you do? Well, since it's not hostile, and I would give him a high five. Yeah, just got to be careful with the claw, right?
01:00:39
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Yeah. i You know, it sounds yeah like it could be friendly, although the nickname is not particularly friendly. But yeah, Sloth in general seemed pretty docile.
01:00:52
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Yeah. Kind of calm, kind of cool. Like, yeah, you're a Yahoo. They've all got a smile on their face. Yeah, i would I would definitely agree with you on the high five with that. ah All right. So we're we're up against the clock here, Nate.
01:01:09
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um
01:01:12
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Anything else about any of the Crippies that we talked about? there's one more I want to talk about before we end this. Okay. What do you got?
The Van Meter Visitor: A Pterosaur-like Enigma
01:01:23
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Well, let's talk about the one and only. well we're going go way far, far away from the most dangerous island on Earth for right now.
01:01:37
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we're going to take trip to Iowa. Van Meter, Iowa. oh And we're going to be talking about van meter visitor. The van meter visitor. Okay, great.
01:01:52
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Let's go. right, so the Van Meter visitor description of the descriptions of skeptics say that it is a it's a pterosaur that has somewhat brown skin on its chest, but has but has tannish skin everywhere else.
01:02:14
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It also has glowing yellow eyes and a cri and like and the ah yellow crystal coming out of its snout.
01:02:25
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Well, on the top of its snout. Yeah. And its wingspan may be about 10 to 20 feet.
01:02:37
Speaker
And reports say um at night at night it would look through people's windows, through the windows of people's houses just ah to see them.
01:02:52
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Just observing them? Yeah, observing them. One, have a theory before we keep going into this. Yeah. For you, it could be an alien or extraterrestrial.
01:03:04
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Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:07
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Like, the only other reason for the crystal in its head would be someone just grabbed Crystal?
01:03:17
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mashed them together and created this thing. and also other reports say that the Van Meter visitor shot when people, when people were hostile at it, they would shoot, it would shoot laser, lasers, slat, lasers, blazers out of its, out of the crystal on its snout.
01:03:42
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um If hostile. Okay. And the last sighting lot of sighting was um ah a lot of people grabbed their shotguns and just rifles and came and waited for the van meter visitor to show to show up.
01:04:04
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ah And then it showed up and they started shooting at it. And like the Kentucky Roblins, Didn't even phase it Yeah.
01:04:16
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I mean, that to me, again, screams like multidimensional being like you're seeing something that is but the
01:04:27
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ah You know what, though, too? That's interesting. I mean, this was these sightings were like a businessman, a doctor, a teacher, the town banker. Like these weren't just kids telling stories like the, you know, pranks or something like that. These were actual like professionals in their community.
01:04:46
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And then back to the into the local mining cave.
01:04:59
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And when they were in the cave, they saw what seemed to be the van meter visitor's mate, which looked exactly like it. And I'm pretty sure there was like, and they had a nest with eggs inside of it.
01:05:17
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ah So we have another abandoned mineshaft or cave. And then the end of the the end, the reign of terror finally ended when the, when the cave had a cave in and rocks fell down, fell down, fell down all around the cave. And they had to, and all the humans had to run out of the, had to run out of the cave.
01:05:44
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And the van meter visitors probably maybe died of hunger. But it doesn't mean that they could have gone out of that cave.
01:05:55
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Yeah, something tells me they could have survived that if they were used to living in caves. um But that is really interesting. So they, in this sighting, allegedly, um there were two creatures, so possibly a parent and offspring or...
01:06:12
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Yeah, and that's, yeah again, interesting, right? Like, we kicked it off with the Kentucky Goblin near, ah you know, famous caving system, and then now we're back into another, like, abandoned mine, you know, underground-type situation. ah it's ah It's really interesting. And this is, what, over 100 ago, 1903? Yep.
01:06:38
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yeah
01:06:40
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Wow. um Why do you think the Van Meter Visitor had a light beam coming out of its head? but i just I just saw it. I just saw so i just saw the i saw video of it, and it said that it shot laser beams out of its head, which sounds some sci-fi movie stuff.
01:07:06
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And this takes place in 1902, I'm pretty i pretty sure 1902, not 1903. Okay. ah You think it could still be in the mine? Well, it could be in the mine or it could have escaped and never dared to terrorize the town again.
01:07:25
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terrorized town again
01:07:30
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Man, and anything else you feel like people should know about the van meter visitor or any of the other cryptids?
01:07:42
Speaker
Well, no, but i i think this po I think this was a very fun conversation that we had. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to say this was probably one of the best things I've ever done in my life.
01:07:58
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And ah thank you, Uncle Jimmy. Hey, listen, man. This is from the bottom of my heart. Thank you, Nate. You've shared so much amazing knowledge and imagination today. What a...
01:08:12
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Where do you, you hope your curiosity takes you next? And how can, how do you think others can learn to follow their own curiosity too?
01:08:26
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Wait, what did you say? So um I was asking you, where do you where's your curiosity going to take you next? And how can other people learn from your imagination and curiosity?
01:08:39
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Well, my ki my curiosity and my imagination is going to take me to my the thing I want to be in life, which is a comic artist. and for other people, i just want to say always be creative, be yourself, and just have fun of what you're doing and don't let anyone jump judge what you're doing or judge you That's a big part of mindfulness is to have an open mind, to be creative and imaginative and to be nonjudgmental of ourselves and other people. So, Nate, you really brought it home with that.
01:09:18
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I really appreciate you sharing that. This was a lot of fun. Yeah. What ah do you think people should ah you want to tell them what to do? Like if they like the show.
01:09:31
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01:09:43
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And make sure to ring that notification bell. There you go. Nate, this was an absolute blast, man. Thank you for coming on. All right, buddy. Appreciate hate that.
01:09:56
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