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Episode 78: Match Review: Chelsea

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Southampton –We're feeling the blues after that perfromance. We share all of our post match thoughts and feelings. 

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Disappointment and Controversy in the Rain

00:00:09
Zak
Hello and welcome to the daily misery sorry the daily Southampton hosted by the global sports podcast network We are joining you after We've We've just got home from What did we get home from Gregory miserable night the worst night?
00:00:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
We got home from a wet ah fairly miserable display.
00:00:29
Zak
It
00:00:31
Zak
I don't want to start off on such a pessimistic note, but that they that really felt like the turning point.
00:00:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
like
00:00:37
Zak
I turned to you at one point and said, look, I know that we've joked about it, and you know I know that there's there's still times that we feel like the great escape is on. But for me, that pulling his hair, man, that's how our captain got sent off.
00:00:51
Zak
Let's just get into

Performance Hopes Against Chelsea

00:00:51
Zak
that straight away.
00:00:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:00:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
You called it before the game, I think, when you likened this to Gillingham last season.
00:00:52
Zak
So it
00:00:57
Zak
is, yeah.
00:00:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you're exactly right, because realistically, going into the game, no one is expecting us to leave this game with a win, even with our positive predictions. We didn't really expect to get anything from the game.
00:01:09
Zak
No.
00:01:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Half of our team is missing, playing Chelsea here in form. And yet we're still disappointed because we wanted some players to step up.
00:01:18
Zak
Just the fight, man.
00:01:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Now there was some quality, right? Let's, let's pick out the positives, I guess, and start with that, right? Because Matty Fernandez continues to be the best player we have.
00:01:29
Zak
Agreed. I can agree with you on that.
00:01:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Walker Peters never stops putting his all in.
00:01:36
Zak
will be the the biggest loss come the end of the season. And I don't blame him for a second if he decides to go because he is putting his all every single game he's played for us.
00:01:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:45
Zak
And he did today. He was one of the only players that I saw at 90 minutes that was still trying to play a game of football.
00:01:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.

Player Highlights and Defensive Struggles

00:01:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cameron Archer, Cameron Archer seems to be to me getting better every game and created several opportunities tonight.
00:01:51
Zak
So yeah, Karam.
00:01:56
Zak
Yeah, agreed.
00:02:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Joe Oribo was good in spells, got the goal and he put himself about and tried to get the ball forward.
00:02:04
Zak
Got a goal. We scored.
00:02:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
And Ryan Manning had a pretty good game.
00:02:14
Zak
I think it was a fault for losing his man on maybe the third goal, but the third goal was actually what I would consider a goal of quality.
00:02:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah but that's where the oh and Nathan Wood stepped up at the centre back and wasn't awful you know
00:02:22
Zak
Most of the other goals were tap-ins because you know don't you don't need anything more against us when we shoot ourselves in the foot.
00:02:32
Zak
Yeah.

Criticism of Captain's Conduct

00:02:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's been thrown in competition where he hasn't played yeah unfortunately at two minutes 50 into the episode that's where the positives end there's nothing else positive to talk about
00:02:36
Zak
No, he made no more mistakes than our other team, other centre backs, right? That's kind of where I'm at.
00:02:46
Zak
No. So so as as the resident pessimist who who unfortunately does suffer support in Southampton and had opportunities.
00:02:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right, let's start with it, mate. Jack Stevens.
00:02:59
Zak
Right, so i've i've ah you know my personal opinions on him and I tried to kind of put a lot of that aside because of the fact he's our captain. I don't really like Stevens as a guy, and I know that doesn't matter as long as they play football. Well, the problem is is that he plays football okay, and and that's that's where it ends. He's not the best player. he's not He's not something that I think brings a huge amount to the team. And ah ah we were sat talking with your sister-in-law, who was literally turning in. At one point, he added it started having an argument Lumley, and it's probably due to the fact that
00:03:32
Zak
Lumley was bowing to fan pressure a little bit to start hoofing the ball out. The problem is his distribution is awful so it kept landing in the feet of Chelsea players. Stevens is getting crosswinds to play out from the back and obviously gets quite wound up and I can understand that.
00:03:47
Zak
The problem is when you're our captain you have Younger players fringe players who are getting an opportunity to shine you cannot lose your head and pull someone's hair Are you insane the second time the second time this season that he has been done for violent conduct?
00:04:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. All right. Even taking how well, that's the thing, right? Even taking out of the context, the stupidity of the red card and the stupidity of the red card, when frankly, he should be the, one of our only leaders with Adam Armstrong on that pitch at the moment, because of the weekend squad we've been forced to play.
00:04:17
Zak
Hmm
00:04:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's ridiculous, but actually what really puts it home,

Impact of Captain's Suspension

00:04:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
right? Is that that it's three games for a straight red and violet conduct as far as I can recall. So that means that he's out for the next three.
00:04:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now I guess one of those is a Carabao cup fixture, but that means that by the time we have played 16 Premier League games this season, he would have been suspended for eight of them.
00:04:32
Zak
It's a shame.
00:04:41
Zak
It's 50%, that's insane. And and like...
00:04:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Our captain. Supposed to be the leader on the pitch. And honestly, I I ah hope I never see him in a Saints shirt again. And I don't think that's taken it too far.
00:04:53
Zak
Yeah, great agreed, agreed. There's no need. There's absolutely no need for him to play again. And it means that we can stop trying to shoehorn him into a system that doesn't play well for him. You cannot do that. you You cannot go into, and like, you know, funny enough, you got the owners in front as well. It's just, it's just so embarrassing. Like not, not our captain in a sense of, you know, that that's one of the three word reviews I think I saw of the game. And that was very, very prominent throughout. You can't do that. You can't cause this, you can't do this twice in the Premier League in a season where already feeling like we're going to go down.
00:05:26
Zak
I turned to you today and said, like look, is if is it start you think it's starting to get toxic yet? And you go, nah, we've not had any sacked in the morning chance yet.
00:05:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Three seconds later, we'll open the queue.
00:05:35
Zak
yeah On cue, five minutes later, bang. and And I don't really know if that's that's fair. to to you know we had a lot We do have a lot of injuries. we we miss it you know We're playing our fourth choice goalkeeper, for goodness' sake.
00:05:48
Zak
But for our captain, who's supposed to be this crux of our squad who gets it. And my worry is he's going to serve his suspension and walk straight back into the side. And the problem is is he's not going to get the reception anymore.
00:05:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:57
Zak
And like for what?

Bizarre Match Events

00:05:58
Zak
And and I just don't, I'd never understood why he was given the captaincy anyway, because he wasn't with us during the relegation season. He was, if the um he was on loan at one of our rivals.
00:06:09
Zak
And, and to do that twice, but like to pull someone's hair, like, mate, what are you doing? like it as insane the For no reason as well. like That's what annoys me the most about it. The stupidity of it.
00:06:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
from a corner and the corner that in the end didn't even make it past the first man so it was an absolute waste.
00:06:19
Zak
It wasn't for a reason. It wasn't to save anything.
00:06:25
Zak
it's just it's just in and then like you know this game The game was weird and 5-1 maybe doesn't do it justice. I think some players played better than the score line suggests.
00:06:36
Zak
which i know
00:06:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
We stepped up after Stevens got sent off
00:06:39
Zak
yeah but yeah but yeah Yeah, I actually think we played better without him. And ironically, you know we're joking about how it's harder to play against two men. I actually think we played better with 10 men fur it for a long spell.
00:06:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it almost galvanized us and gave us something to fight for, right?
00:06:50
Zak
And we also we had some we've had some weird events as well. True, right. Let's take a breather. And we're going to take a breather hearing about our partners at Zencaster.
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00:07:25
Zak
Right, so there was lots of football that happened tonight, apparently. um Some of it we saw, some of it we did not. It was miserable. The weather was awful. We didn't really plan for that. But there were also some two really strange strange events. so So one of which is that at one point the referee disappeared for what we thought was checking a penalty or something and has gone down the tunnel. And I guess nature called. We're not quite sure. that That seems to be the overarching theory is that bloke needed to go to the loo you know unfortunately nature to all of us whatever and there was also a thing which the daily echo has already decided to upload pictures of is that we had a pitch invader and this was about five minutes after I turned to you when mate it seems like steward in his light today which I'm really worried he overheard me and decided to run onto the pitch by the way it was as soon as he as soon as that incident ended
00:08:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:08:17
Zak
Obviously, we had to go back to a game of football and we conceded a fourth goal and and then obviously a fifth where, yeah, of course, it was just...
00:08:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
The heads are dropped at that point and it was and I mean look that that we played ah can we played well in a galvanized way with 10 men and we put a strong solid spirit in.
00:08:37
Zak
Yeah, until that point, I reckon.
00:08:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
But realistically, yeah, but realistically, when you're against an 11 men of Chelsea who you said it earlier, in fact, that, you know, one of their players basically is the same cost as our entire squad, especially the team that we had out there today.
00:08:38
Zak
but
00:08:52
Zak
yeah i' so
00:08:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like we'll get, I'm sure we'll get to it in a bit, but we played Yuki Sugawara up front. So.
00:08:57
Zak
but we had and We had about 8 defenders on the pitch at one point. you
00:09:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
But you know it was always going to capitulate at some point. And you're right, I don't think the score line is is a fair reasoning of the game.
00:09:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
We had chances, we had a few shots, we got the ball forward. Even when we were down to 10 men, we were still so pretty well in the game. It was done.
00:09:20
Zak
No, no one, no one took us.
00:09:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
The game was done.
00:09:21
Zak
No one took a strike. No one took a strike.
00:09:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
but's
00:09:23
Zak
And a lot of the players are the people that were brought on to maybe try and change the game. I think we've been worried about the fact that we've got not good enough. Swat depth is, you know, you watched Ben Barrett and Diaz play football supposedly, who, who, who again, probably my favorite picture of tonight is actually a picture of the pitch invader like shaking hands with him him just looking the most dejected man I've ever seen in in the world.
00:09:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
know again
00:09:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Still yet to win a Premier League game by

Analysis of Player Performances

00:09:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
the way, well above playing games.
00:09:48
Zak
There you go. And Soleimada, who couldn't look less interested to be here. And I'm not surprised. I said to you, like part of that is probably being the fact that you are being brought on 3-1 down at home against Chelsea. You're probably not going to be happy. But I also just feel like his head must be in the clouds or alternatively out the door in January. But you know you you start to worry. And in the Jillingham game, which we're talking about, is spot on because it's like,
00:10:14
Zak
That's our squad depth. We spent a lot of money. Some players have turned out real well. Yuki's been up and down, but Matty Fernandez has been utterly fantastic. Cameron Arch is so, so, but, you know, as you said, improving.
00:10:27
Zak
We spent money on Ramsdale, who's been fine up until the fact that, you know, up until unfortunately the injury, but then a lot of the other recruitment we've done, like Nathan Wood, it was all right, but he wasn't supposed to, I think, be in the squads day to day nowadays anyway.
00:10:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
No. And let's be fair, right he he was in a difficult position tonight and he he stepped up in the best way I think he could.
00:10:45
Zak
oh
00:10:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
And ah ah you know I don't think, I couldn't see this the fourth or fifth goal really because they were so far away from where we sit. But I don't think he was at fault from from ah an obvious mistake for any of the goals.
00:11:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
And he he did a better job of stepping up to the plate than our captain. And so
00:11:05
Zak
Yeah, which is just embarrassing and that's the saddest thing about it.
00:11:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
so And so fair play. You can't ask more than that, really.
00:11:10
Zak
nay
00:11:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
What you want to see is a player playing. And he he did. He put his, he, you know, he gave it his all and got himself in the positions today and actually, you know, got the ball forward a bit as well at times. And yeah.
00:11:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
And like, don't get me wrong. He's not setting the world of light and barking that he needs to make his way into the first team, but he was solid in a team of wild inconsistency.
00:11:35
Zak
and I agree and and i think I think he did alright. I feel i felt bad for Lumley, like his mistakes ultimately have cost him and for a bloke that turned around and said he wants to play for England and after coming in and we know we got a draw, you know he ended up not getting a clean sheet but he didn't exactly you know to then concede five goals has got to hurt your confidence a little bit.
00:11:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
also you've got to say that without him in goal and without the post and the woodwork it could have been 12 so the problem is when he lumped it long when he got frustrated it still went straight to a chelsea shirt and that's just as inviting the pressure
00:11:56
Zak
and
00:12:02
Zak
Yeah, he made a couple of of couple of decent saves as well. like I feel like he got criticized because of this whole playing out from the back and style or not. like The problem is is, I don't think that was as as much of the problem. I feel like... Yeah, because that that was what you kept pointing out. like you You were shouting around to the fans around us, because a lot of people around us were like, just hoof it, and then he hoofed it, and they're like, what's the point? He's just going to pass it straight to a Chelsea player. So you may as well play out from the back. The problem is, if you're going to let those tensions boil over,
00:12:30
Zak
and you're going to have an argument with the pitch in front of everybody. like we You can see it. and no None of but of us are blind or deaf. you know We can see the fact they were having a row. And then for our captain to go and do that, like again, I just i can't take ah can't get my head around that being the point of just the way the game completely turned and like where our season's turned. It's just such a summary of our season so far, I think somebody put it, which was

Leadership Crisis and Fan Reactions

00:12:53
Zak
like, you know we had our captain sent off for pulling another man's hair.
00:12:59
Zak
whilst 3-1 down at home on a Wednesday night in the rain. just but That is a relegation season if you've ever heard of one.
00:13:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
I have to see it going any other way, doesn't it?
00:13:08
Zak
i yeah don't know There's a combination of things. not but
00:13:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think we've long time really sat on the fence and can see both sides of the argument for us and mine, right? And we're kind of at the accepted point where the board probably aren't going to sack him anytime soon.
00:13:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Do you think that this, because we saw a turn in the atmosphere today for sure, do you think
00:13:32
Zak
Hmm.
00:13:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
do you think that changes the answer? Locha don't see us firing him before the weekend but do you think with off effectively, well maybe not full squad because he don't know about injuries but with our suspended players back and closer to our starting 11 against Villa does that basically make it finally do or die time for him?
00:13:39
Zak
No.
00:13:52
Zak
pro Potentially, but the problem is, is that my worry is that we're just going to replace him with someone else to championship quality. People were talking about us bringing in Runam, Destroy, people were talking about us bringing in Grand Potter. We, when we lost Hassan Hootle, went out and bought a championship manager, because they don't want to pay for somebody of that level of renown, that level of quality.
00:14:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:14:12
Zak
I just don't think that there's the money there. So I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to keep him. And I don't know, what I can't deal with is what I needed him to come out with is a little bit more than like, I'm so proud of the players, they fought so hard, they sent the other.
00:14:24
Zak
And I'm like, well, yeah, but also 5-1, mate.
00:14:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
He defended the defense and for that for me it's almost non-forgivable. like
00:14:29
Zak
defended Jack Stevens and saying like, oh no one will be more disappointed from him. now I can tell you who was disappointed.
00:14:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not true.
00:14:35
Zak
30,000 people, well you're bothered, obviously the Chelsea fans, that pay week in, week out to come to these games, watch stuff, and then you know, just just a hip for to just make decisions like that twice in a season as supposedly the leader on the pitch.
00:14:50
Zak
Just disgrace, man.
00:14:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was an interesting moment after the game that we stayed and saw where he he came over to the Northern fans.
00:14:52
Zak
I'm so...
00:14:55
Zak
Oh, you turned like mad, didn't he?
00:14:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
He came over to start applauding and then he was instant booze and chances sacked in the morning and it was, yeah, he was out of there.
00:15:05
Zak
yeah
00:15:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
He couldn't have left any quicker.
00:15:06
Zak
Couple, couple of the players actually made an effort, you know, Madden came over, even Joe Lumley came over, Rebo, you know, players you'd expect.
00:15:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
And they got applauding because they put the effort in, right? Like they stayed and got the applause from the Northern fans because they were the players that played for the badge tonight and
00:15:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
stood out in a in a team that that needed someone to stand out and you know a Rebo got his goal in the what the sixth seventh minute something like that and you know really that was the peak of the night yeah
00:15:37
Zak
yes that's where we shouldve gone home mate and i' got a lie but that's not That's not how we do things. But right, we'll try and talk about what's to come after a message from our partners at the Global Sports Podcast Network. So the Global Sports Podcast Network is changing the face of football podcasting, dedicated daily content for every Premier League team, women's football, fancy football, and a daily Premier League wrap up broadcasted in five different languages. This is your one stop shop for your daily football fix. Find GSPN wherever you find your usual podcasts.
00:16:07
Zak
oh you I didn't really answer your question as to whether or not I think it's deal or die time. I just don't think they'll do anything because of the money. But personally, do do do we think that we can keep doing this and but end up on anything more than 10 points by the end of the season?
00:16:23
Zak
No, not really. So where I'm at is...
00:16:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I'm still of the opinion that, I mean,
00:16:30
Zak
It doesn't change anything.
00:16:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
that day's a much more important game in the context of the season than tonight was ever going to be with our missing players.
00:16:31
Zak
We're probably down.
00:16:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like Chelsea at home is is a game that we we would have hoped to try and get something from before, you know, basically the spine of our team got removed. so
00:16:48
Zak
what do you see What do you see going forward because you know we can splash out big in January and we can try and salvage the season or do you think now we're building for the championship again as depressing as that sounds not even being you know just over a third of the way into the season?
00:17:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh, look, we can't be seen to be given up like that. That would be an absolute disgrace, in my opinion.

Club's Future Strategy

00:17:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh, like, yes, it is, it feels very out of reach, but also ah like we're only seven points off of safety. It's not unachievable. Like the point tallies around us are still low. Like it isn't, it is, it feels.
00:17:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
very difficult but it isn't completely done yet and like we've got what four games now until christmas till boxing day if we get six points from four games we're potentially right back in the mix and that feels optimistic
00:17:49
Zak
six points from four games but mate we've had five from 42 points so like it's difficult I understand what you're saying it's just I really I agree.
00:18:00
Zak
like We shouldn't say it's complete outreach because this is such a weird late year.
00:18:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's hard to write because we've been that we've been yeah but we been good the spells.
00:18:04
Zak
like Look at the points around us. It's embarrassing how the gulf...
00:18:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like the first 20 minutes of that game, if you take out the, this is the story of the season. If you take out the two stupid mistakes that led to goals, we played well when we're like banging the game.
00:18:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's it's stupid mistakes coming back to bite us. And but even at three, one down until until he got himself sent off you still felt like actually we had a chance of getting back in it like we were still moving the ball about in a way that looked comfortable we were finding the opportunities we were getting the ball forward and and obviously the sending off completely changed the game and and like yeah until the pitch invader almost ended the game for us it must be so hard as a player to
00:18:51
Zak
That was so strange. There's some really strange tidbits of tonight.
00:18:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
be so focused and switched on and then have to switch that focus. We talked about it with the VAR decision taking so long, but then have to switch off for 10 minutes while seemingly no stewards exist in some areas to go and catch this guy.
00:19:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
We saw the response team run past us, which was a joke because he'd already been on the pitch for about 13 minutes at that point. and
00:19:19
Zak
And he would already, by this point, he'd been restrained by a member of the coaching staff, taken off to the side, and then started trying to have a bar me with one of the, I want to say like the head steward or something like that. And then the response team arrived, which is, which is nuts.
00:19:32
Zak
But yeah, on top of that as well, you've got the ref, you know, obviously nature calls, nature calls, I get it. But also like that didn't help. But up to that point, like I think that, you know, if we, if we'd ended the game, no.
00:19:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
No. It didn't help that nobody seemed to know what was going on at that point. Like it wasn't even like the players, the players clearly didn't know what was going on at that point because they didn't go off for a drink.
00:19:49
Zak
No, not at all, they thought something was happening.
00:19:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like if there's a stoppage in play like that, you'd see them go off, get some fresh tactics from the manager, i have a drink, but they were all stood waiting to take the corner.
00:19:59
Zak
Look, put it out on the mic, at least that way everyone will have a laugh as well.
00:20:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. to But it was just, we just stood around looking confused.
00:20:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like,
00:20:09
Zak
So yeah, there's definitely some just like some weird, just like bad vibes of those things happening alone.
00:20:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:20:16
Zak
and And then also, like, no offence to Chelsea fans out there, right?
00:20:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:20
Zak
But we lose every week. You're nothing special. As we sang to you at the top of our lungs for a solid five minutes, it was very funny. Setting off a... Setting off... Setting off players?
00:20:30
Zak
Really?
00:20:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
not
00:20:33
Zak
We're bottom of the league! Come on!

Formation Challenges and Recruitment

00:20:36
Zak
I swear half of them just went home to sell out.
00:20:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
They were clearly egypt just, clearly just jealous of off pre-match fireworks display mate, which
00:20:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
you can only hope for paid for by Amazon, because otherwise that's the rest of the line, leave and do fun blowing already in it, like...
00:20:43
Zak
i feel I feel like...
00:20:46
Zak
Yeah.
00:20:50
Zak
it's it's It's hard to see a way back. and it But then also, again, like for me, all this is done is prove that if I was Russell Martin right now and I'm ignoring all the noise from the fans, all I would do at this point is walk into the boardroom with the owners and be like, OK, well, you've seen what I've got when I've got all of my best players fit. You've now seen what we have on the bench. I need more money to go out and buy better players.
00:21:18
Zak
Because there's there's some players that you just thought would come good, like Barrison Diaz, and it's just...
00:21:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
no right It was doomed from the off, right? Like the line up was as close to as we could have predicted it. And then we would, we spent the first 10 minutes trying to work out what the formation was.
00:21:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
and I was like, right, i'm I'm looking at it.
00:21:34
Zak
don't know where Kyle Walker-Peters played, but he played well.
00:21:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm like, right. Okay. Jack Stevens and would have sent her back. That makes sense. Fine. Breeze out on the right. That's that's fine. That makes sense. Looks like Manning's left back. It's Kyle Walker Peters playing center back, holding midfielder or striker.
00:21:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
or left wing or right wing. And actually it was it was kind of all of those things.
00:21:57
Zak
So is it like where Bournemouth, where the first 20 minutes where we played this really weird formation and it was fine and then we just had an absolute meltdown because we flight started playing outside of our comfort zone and then just went, I don't know what to do.
00:21:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
no
00:22:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah but then and then And then I noticed that Fraser was on the pitch, which I hadn't even noticed from the team lineup and God knows where he was playing. I think he was also playing in midfield.
00:22:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so we were playing like a like a four triple two, where all the holding fielders were Ryan Fraser and Carl Walker Peters. And then Fernandez and Arribo were sort of in front of that.
00:22:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then Armour and Archer were sort of in front of that. And it was just, but I guess it is what it is.
00:22:39
Zak
wait
00:22:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
we haven't got the player We haven't got the players to play people in their natural positions. and put
00:22:48
Zak
Wait...
00:22:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
but say by the end of the game we had about seven right backs on the pitch and Bemborough and Diaz, who is as far as I'm aware, his best position is left back in the changing room.
00:22:57
Zak
I...
00:22:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
i
00:22:58
Zak
I feel like He was playing so awful on the right wing, they put on Sugawara to basically replace him at right wing and just move him to somewhere in the middle.
00:23:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bemborough just played in the middle up front anyway, he was playing his straight and it didn't make sense and and like fine maybe
00:23:10
Zak
Well, yeah, that's my point. I think, well... It was... yeah But at that point at that point, it's just preserving the players for the weekend, innit?
00:23:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, yeah. Sure, Sugawara is one of our top scorers of the season because he scored a goal, so why not stick him up from? But also, it's just a bit odd. Like, Charlie Taylor, we thought we thought we'd seen the last of him.
00:23:26
Zak
Well yeah, but by the end of the game mate we had Brony Edwards on, we had every single defender under the sun. Charlie Taylor came on at one point. ah Just yeah, that'll be, that sure that sure was some players on the field at the end of the game, but clearly by that point he was thinking about the weekend.
00:23:41
Zak
And that's that's what we've got to look forward to now.
00:23:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
What do we see in the weekend? Do you think we ditch Lumley and go back to McCarthy?
00:23:47
Zak
Probably.
00:23:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just dope his knee up and stick him in anyway?
00:23:48
Zak
what Mate, he's, where, I feel like when you have conceded six goals in two games regardless of the fact that probably some of them weren't his fault and the fact that but but also as i pointed out to you the arguments and the not wanting to play out from the back and the you know if that is what they wanted like this is the problem that you summed it up everyone's like stop playing out from the back and it's like no okay it's cool
00:24:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Two of them definitely were. In fact, maybe three.
00:24:20
Zak
So he tried not playing out from the back, but wasn't good enough to not kick it directly to a Chelsea player. Because of the way we play, it just meant that they they sent 20, 30 blokes at us at one point. It felt like an army charging us every single time.
00:24:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah but then also playing out from the back as I think I turn around to you right at the start of the game and said nothing but nerves when it's your fourth choice goalkeeper and your fourth or fifth choice centre back knocking the ball between them before it gets out and yeah it's who's gonna want to come to the
00:24:45
Zak
But that but that's what i thought so that's what I'm saying about when it comes to January. Do they need to start getting the checkbook out and actually looking and getting some quality players? Because our recruitment can't have been has been really hit and miss this year.
00:24:57
Zak
And is that something we've got to do? Well, yeah, this is your other problem. You're going to have to probably line it up with, OK, so if we go down, you get a pay rise or something. Because this is the other problem, is that we could lose players in January, don't forget.
00:25:09
Zak
Karl Walker-Peters has been nothing but an incredible servant for the club.
00:25:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:12
Zak
And if he doesn't sign, the end of the I wouldn't
00:25:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolute professional.
00:25:15
Zak
wouldn't blame him at all because he puts in everything.
00:25:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:18
Zak
But if you're surrounded by players that seem to not do that, and your own captain is getting sent off and put in people's air, I would also probably go, you know what, I think I fancy it somewhere else.
00:25:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:27
Zak
and So yeah, that's the other problem is you're right is who who wants to come in. This is how we ended up with tool pool in the first place. Remember, he was like our fifth fifth or sixth choice transfer, we got we had to bring in a striker at the end of that window.
00:25:37
Zak
And although he's done right.
00:25:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now we might be our best hope
00:25:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
him and an 18 year old boy from our academy. and
00:25:43
Zak
An 18-year-old boy that once rejected Chelsea. ah ah thank Thank goodness. That, that my friend, is where we leave on the positivity. It's that Cole Palmer is nothing but a beep Tyler Dibbling.
00:25:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Alright.
00:25:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Rubbish Tyler Diblin.
00:25:58
Zak
yeah
00:25:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hopefully we can prove that on Saturday because we'll have him back and we'll cause chaos for the Villa defence.
00:26:03
Zak
I think if that has got to be the lowest point of our season, anything from there is up. And that is where we will go into the weekend.
00:26:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's hope, I mean we've still got some really tough home fixtures to come.
00:26:15
Zak
true, but I am not going to be in the soaking wet to watch this one. So I'll probably feel a little bit better.
00:26:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:26:22
Zak
Right. We have been the Daily Southampton. You have been our wonderful listeners. You can catch us on on all the socials, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Blue Sky, all that lovely stuff.
00:26:33
Zak
We will be back with just there. We will be back tomorrow with a crossover with the Daily Villa. where I'm sure that they're going to be absolutely buzzing off of their win and full of false positivity and we will be full of pessimism which will result in a win.
00:26:52
Zak
That's what we're hoping for. Before our players back everyone, thank you very much.
00:26:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
or don't do pessimism a mate, you know that.
00:26:58
Zak
Thank you very much for joining us and we will see you tomorrow.
00:26:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sick to know at the weekend, calling it now.