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Episode 75: Match Recap Monday - A point on the board at Brighton!
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Southampton – It was a game of 2 halves at the AmEx, and we talk the positives, the negatives.... And of course the VAR..
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Introduction and Show Preview
00:00:08
Zak
Hello and welcome to The Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. I am your host today. I am Zakingo Finch. I am joined once again and as always by the usual host of this podcast because I'm really bad at being organised.
00:00:26
Zak
My friend Gregory Elliott. How are you doing mate? How is your weekend going?
00:00:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it's going all right. It's going all
00:00:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, I know that there are things we're going to touch on in this episode that are of a negative nature, but I want to take the high level picture look and it's a point, right?
00:00:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
is a point and a solid second half performance.
00:00:45
Zak
I'm going to be um'm going to be less negative than you expect me to be after a performance like that, but I will have to dig into the first half because I had to watch it and it was terrible.
00:00:57
Zak
But we'll we'll get there.
Performance Analysis: First Half Struggles
00:00:59
Zak
i'm I'm on my way to to Illness City. My wife is really ill. I should be in Bath right now. I'm not. So you know what better than to talk about us actually getting a point out of the weekend?
00:01:12
Zak
so Obviously, I watched all of the game before. yeah i For the first half of football, it felt like the Wolves game. It was pretty dire. The fact that my first note for the entirety of the beginning of the first half at six minutes in was almost conceded. And then our eight minutes in was Brighton missing sitters. Now, there there are lots of chances for Brighton to get their score prediction of three nil, right? had tons of chances to do that. They didn't.
00:01:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
There was a couple right in the couple where Sugawara got himself into trouble a couple of times right there was one that
00:01:42
Zak
So, yeah.
00:01:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
hit the post.
00:01:51
Zak
Yes, that was not ideal. there were There are more than a few opportunities for Brighton to go 3-0 up. They didn't.
00:01:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:01:57
Zak
Part of football is luck. If they had gone in, it would have been a different game. But likewise, if all of the chances we'd struck this season had gone in and the goals we'd had hadn't been overturned, but we'll speak about that later,
00:02:10
Zak
We would also be you know in a completely different position.
Team Fitness Concerns
00:02:13
Zak
So we survived.
00:02:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean Archer missed a sitter as well in the first half, right?
00:02:16
Zak
Yeah.
00:02:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
It went both ways
00:02:18
Zak
yeah like it so It took about 11 minutes before we even got a cross in, but once again, like no one was there. And then 12 minutes in, we had a problem where our dam's got yellow-carded. So he's going to be out now. we're out yeah Well, we could have discussed that.
00:02:30
Zak
We're going to be here without a few players on Wednesday night.
00:02:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Not going to be a very happy birthday for me, mate.
00:02:36
Zak
it's It's going to be...
00:02:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
I can predict that, Mark.
00:02:37
Zak
ah has is it's interesting because it's the whole bravery, well all the players showed bravery and now we're in a position where we're we're running a fourth choice goalkeeper and whatever else is going on but this it's not great.
00:02:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's start with that, right? Let's start at the start, team selection. Did we did we expect Lumley to come in? I mean, we offhandedly mentioned it in our preview, but I don't think either of us actually thought it was coming in, right?
00:03:00
Zak
Yeah, a joke.
00:03:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
i
00:03:03
Zak
Right, so so according so like and something I do believe is according to to Russell, it was it's definitely injury, right? so McCarthy played through the last game with injections for pain because he felt a niggle in his knee.
00:03:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cause he's like 83.
00:03:18
Zak
yeah so he managed to so He wasn't fit for the weekend, which meant they'd kind of made the decision by Wednesday. Salomely has been sat on this information that he was playing since Wednesday.
00:03:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay.
00:03:29
Zak
I don't really know if it means that maybe Brighton would have had more confidence going up against the goalkeeper that conceded the way he did. Does it mean that McCarthy's performance last weekend wasn't as bad if he's been sitting with an injury?
00:03:41
Zak
All of these are questions. All I care about is that we only conceded one goal. Lumley did OK.
00:03:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
You played it right. Yeah.
00:03:48
Zak
There was a couple of moments where he did what Southampton goalkeepers do.
00:03:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:03:52
Zak
Don't get me wrong. But other than that, he did the job of a goalkeeper. So I can't blame the guy. like It was quite nice to see that, OK, we're even with our fourth choice keeper.
00:04:03
Zak
We're OK, maybe. Has it staked a big enough claim for him to win for Wednesday? If he can make it through 90 minutes, because he struggled towards the end, maybe.
00:04:13
Zak
Because it seems like none of our backup goalkeepers are able to make it through 90 minutes at the moment.
00:04:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
This comes back right to what I was saying about fitness, right?
00:04:21
Zak
It's your fitness thing, right?
00:04:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because what we doing if, I mean, I couldn't throw myself around like goalkeepers do for any portion of time.
00:04:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
I would take one jump onto the floor and then I'd take about 10 minutes to get back up. But if that's a position you're in at a second or third choice, that should mean that you're ready to go at a moment's notice.
00:04:44
Zak
You need to be ready. You need to, we need to be ready.
00:04:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
So why have we got so many players that can't do 90 minutes? it's It's crazy. It's really baffling.
00:04:53
Zak
There's a lot of, there's a lot of questions that genuinely like why, why we seem to be really struggle busing. with with players getting it through and is it like, is it that they're overtraining? Is it that they're overcommitting?
00:05:04
Zak
Is it that they're putting too much effort in? Well, no, because clearly we would be on the front foot all the time if
Russell's Management Style
00:05:08
Zak
that's the case.
00:05:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
poo But we talked about with Poch,
00:05:10
Zak
and
00:05:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
in the pot season when we were like the pinnacle of fitness and we like set the bar for that ability to press high and run and run and run. And he was doing double training sessions in preseason to get that level of fitness up. So I'm starting to feel a bit like maybe Russell's more focused on vibes than fitness.
00:05:31
Zak
I think you can tell that with the way that he's been anyway, like with a lot of the way that he man manages is that I don't think he's a strict disciplinarian slash authoritarian. and I think that there's definitely, he definitely gives the impression that he is more vibes based. I reckon there are probably things going on quite behind closed door. We've already mentioned some players that that don't seem to get a look in and some that have missed out on other reasons, but he's very quick to never really blame the players for anything, despite the fact that, you know,
00:06:02
Zak
apart from that one day where tensions boiled over when he pointed out that someone missed her missed being on the spot when the corner came in and we conceded
Evaluating Player Transfers
00:06:09
Zak
Leicester. So it's like there's a lot to be said about that, but I just don't know if it's if it's the the key the key focus or alternatively, as I've pointed out before, just the style of football we play requires such a level of keep and go and keep and go and keep and go and they just they just get tired quicker than other teams and we don't have the facilities and the training and we don't have a thousand fitness coaches like good lord we don't even have a free kick coach so who knows but it's like it's an interesting point and and I don't really understand like I don't know if we'll ever get an answer I think is the sad thing about it
00:06:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, na I don't think so. Yeah. But I mean, it it raises concerns, like you say, about you know the position we're in now on Wednesday, where we're without, I think,
00:06:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
three players because of suspensions from yellow cards of like, we know that our depth on the bench isn't inspiring our confidence, but if they're not inspiring our confidence and they're not fit to play 90 minutes.
00:07:07
Zak
but But then part of that is, you know, part of that is down to them as well, is that they should be be keeping themselves fit. And when it comes to the fact that we've got no depth that's inspiring off of the bench, that's not for lack of trying.
00:07:17
Zak
We've signed like 11 players this season.
00:07:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:20
Zak
Some of them we'd expect to be doing the better. We've been through this before. and We did a wildcard Wednesday the other last week, I think, where we we spoke about a lot of our transfers in and, you know, we'd expect people like Cornet and Berrit and Diaz to be doing better and that they're not.
00:07:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:34
Zak
So then there should be, if there's an injury crisis like there is at the moment and a suspension crisis and all of that, we should be able to have people that should be able to slot naturally into the system. But the problem is, is currently we don't.
00:07:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
think I think one of my texts to you on Friday night watching the latter half of the game was just, why is Diaz so rubbish?
00:07:54
Zak
I just, I feel bad for him because like summons just not, firing with our team, and and that's sad more than anything else.
00:08:03
Zak
For someone, you know yeah when we we brought him in, as we discussed, we thought it would be really exciting, it would be a good sign in, it would be exactly what we needed, and it just hasn't. It's the same thing where like I feel phil for Archer, because he should have had a goal, we'll talk about that later, but but like he is trying every game, he's getting into the positions where he can, he's making runs where he possibly can.
00:08:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's really it like the effort he puts in to get into the right positions.
00:08:23
Zak
but
00:08:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sometimes the lack of service he gets is really like inspiring. like It's to really promising for me that he continuously does it. and you know Yes, he missed an absolute sitter
First Half Revisited: Missed Opportunities
00:08:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
in the first half and then we like you say, we will touch on the goal that should have been, but he just still gets in those positions and don't see anyone else in the team doing that.
00:08:53
Zak
Yeah, that's true, but like the
00:08:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like the only other force on the team that drives us forward and gets us into positive positions is is Tyler Diblin.
00:09:02
Zak
who is also out for next game.
00:09:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:05
Zak
But, yeah, the the first half, so let's just wrap up the first half.
00:09:08
Zak
The problem is is that when we got to 28 minutes, all of my notes are, there it is, Matoma goal, terrible defending, but it was the goal that was coming for the first half an hour. And then nothing really happened except Karl Walker Karl Walker Peter's yellow at 30 minutes in, which was, again, like not the hugest necessary yellow.
00:09:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sugawara again for the goal, right? Just completely let Matoma go.
00:09:29
Zak
So then he's going to be out now. And then at 40 minutes, we had three shots, zero on target, which again was very much like we just played the wolves game again, except with less possession and more chances to brighten. But we only ended the half one nil down. And that could be considered a win by some people's standards. And then we had half time. And that's when things started to change. And we will discuss that after a message from our partners at Zencaster.
00:09:59
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VAR Controversy and Second Half Analysis
00:10:23
Zak
Right, so so the second half. The first note I had is at one point, Lumley handed it straight over to Brighton, which is again like, oh, no, it's this fear of playing out for the back and considering the first half and where we were going. I'm not going to lie, I was pretty free i was pre peeved at this point. One of my friends was texting back and forth from email. Maybe I'll read some stuff out from my ah my chat with James, which shout out to Peach for keeping me company during that because it you know we we were talking more about NFL afterwards because that was where I jumped over to straight after. But I think he, from somebody who who does not is not a Saints fan,
00:11:01
Zak
was very surprised. And then as soon as he realised there was an NFL one when I pointed out to him, jump ship watching that game, because he was like, it is, it is pretty dire. And, you know, silver linings, they completely missed him, run it in, slotted right between the centre backs, didn't even look. And he's just, his his response is, it's going to be a long, long year. And he was surprised that we had Ben Barrett and Diaz when I pointed out to him, because he had absolutely no idea, which to my point was,
00:11:28
Zak
Well, it's kind of the point and his his idea of Southampton.
00:11:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think some Saints fans will be surprised that we've got Bimro and Diaz because if you if you only go based off of what you watch on the pitch and not what you see from news on the website then he's been basically invisible.
00:11:34
Zak
so
00:11:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
say
00:11:46
Zak
So his his philosophy and I was talking about when we got promoted is that we've come up early, which, you know, I've i've spoken about. Have we come up early? Who knows? But he said that it's like the FM objective, fight bravely.
00:11:56
Zak
Everybody knows you're going down, but at least you look like you're trying. But I think genuinely with the state of the league and the the people around us, you know we get a couple of strings. We string some wins together. Who knows how they're coming, but we.
00:12:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's a crazy thing, right? Because like we've seen that we can perform. That second half against Brighton was you know but apart from the odd mistake, which we're always prone to with how we play.
00:12:16
Zak
Yeah.
00:12:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
If we played like that for 90 minutes, we'd win. so And I guess that's the most frustrating thing is we can only ever seem to do it in spells. But you know we got in there and we had three shots at the goal, one of which eventually went in.
00:12:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
to to cause the first goal, which was fantastic. And a first Premier League goal for Flynn Downs, brilliant stuff.
00:12:39
Zak
Yeah.
00:12:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then we scored a second goal and the referees took seven minutes looking for a reason to disallow it.
00:12:45
Zak
The fact that that was seven minutes was absolutely insane. like the whole if the entire point of right I know we're going to get onto this. I know you're excited for it. But if the entire point of it is to do with clear and obvious,
00:12:56
Zak
How the heck have they decided that they're going to look at this one bit and decided this on side and then go, actually, we've also decided we're going to check this as well. Why don't we check the build up to that? Why don't we check before?
00:13:07
Zak
Why don't we check every single individual decision in the entire bloody game? The idea that that was, you know, even if he did put his heel up to catch it, one, he didn't. Two, he didn't really interfere with play because he missed it completely.
00:13:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
It didn't affect it at all. It didn't fact impact the ball.
00:13:20
Zak
it' so it it If it hit the ball and it hit its
00:13:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
It didn't impact the defender's block. The keeper was already covering the near post in case Fraser shot and was already stepping towards Archer.
00:13:30
Zak
is absolutely insane.
00:13:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
So he hasn't impacted the keeper at all. It's a joke. And the fact that Skye went out of their way to say everything apart from that's a shocking decision because they can't because they partnered with the referee.
00:13:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
really says it all. Like they had a so ah ah flash screen at the, I know you'd switched over to the NFL at this point, they had a flash screen at the end with a breakdown of the rules and what part of it might apply to.
00:13:49
Zak
Then I host a lot.
00:13:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
And they couldn't figure it out either.
00:13:57
Zak
It's just...
00:13:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then I listened to TalkSport all morning, and they're they're saying exactly the same. It's a joke. And yeah,
00:14:06
Zak
So we're on to this. So we're on to this. But we'll just take a step back. So obviously, Taylor Hubbard-Bellis has got a yellow card. So I don't know if he's out now, but I'm pretty sure that's that's another one in our book.
00:14:17
Zak
And then obviously, Flindown scoring the game came alive, and then we managed to score a second directly after we took off Sugawara, who you've pointed out didn't have his best game in a Saint shirt, and Downs, because Downs very, very almost got a red card.
00:14:31
Zak
And to be honest, I've seen some people talk about that more than the fact that we had an outward goal ruled out.
00:14:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
on
00:14:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
That seems to have been what the chat between the managers at the end might have been about.
00:14:37
Zak
OK, yeah, fair enough.
00:14:41
Zak
Wouldn't be surprised. a Revo
Substitutions and Player Impact
00:14:43
Zak
came on and Fraser came on. Now, i I am in trouble. I am the one that will put myself forward for this because I am the one that texts Greg during this time because we talk a lot about how some are some of our substitutions aren't really inspiring, right? And that that's true, okay?
00:15:06
Zak
So it's a struggle, I'm just trying to get up. But it turns out I run quite a lot when we're back and forth in. So the thing is, is I was kind of like to Greg, Fraser for Yuki is so inspiring. ha ha ha Exactly one minute later, Greg sent me the send me aged like milk, which is
00:15:28
Zak
That did age like milk. It is the almost opposite of his cameo at Leicester, where he came on and got red carded and went.
00:15:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:35
Zak
And so it was it was the instant impact we wanted when we signed him from the championship, like when we saw when he was in the championship with us and we've kind of brought him in full.
00:15:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Instant impact.
00:15:44
Zak
Yeah, he he played really well, considering we went toe to toe with people who were like second in the league at the time, you know.
00:15:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
but But also can we talk about the the start of the move also came from another piece of Tyler Diblin magic to get Fraser through running in and then he played that beautiful ball in and then the referee saw fit to Find whatever reason they could to disallow it and it's and it's devastating because it's not the first time this season that we've been cost points because of a shocking referee decision and
00:15:56
Zak
Always tired of rippling, isn't it? I'm umm so scared of him going.
00:16:14
Zak
we We're sick of talking about it. It shouldn't be something I have to talk about week in week out. I'm not an expert on like referees, but like I'm also not stupid enough to not give that goal.
00:16:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:23
Zak
It's insane that if the entire point of it is to be clear and obvious and treat up things that could be ambiguous and this and the other, where I'm at, again, if you're going to look at every single nitpicky thing, let's pick every single nitpicky thing.
00:16:35
Zak
like Why is it that last week, when clearly an extra time, there was a lot of time wasted and kicking about, and that went on
00:16:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:16:43
Zak
for exactly 98 minutes before the whistle was blown, exactly 98. And then this week when we had 10 minutes added on, because seven minutes of that was literally just the VAR check, three minutes of that being the changes.
00:16:58
Zak
And then it went on to like what, 113 minutes where they had a couple of chances at goal.
00:17:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but it's the consistency.
00:17:03
Zak
but where Where's the, there's just no, there's no consistency, none.
00:17:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the other argument I've seen is in fact Arsenal against us where their player was ruled not interfering with play, basically doing exactly the same thing as Armstrong was doing.
00:17:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just insane. And it is. But the problem as well is, like obviously the decision's shocking. I don't want to take away from that, but I don't want to dwell on it too much.
00:17:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
But because it takes seven minutes to get to that point, any hope of carrying momentum on after that is gone.
00:17:30
Zak
The momentum.
00:17:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like all of the momentum in the game is gone and it you know then for us it's an uphill battle and we've talked about the potential mentality of these decisions and things going against us but it's not even that because seven minutes is
Game Outcome and Future Outlook
00:17:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
a long time.
00:17:49
Zak
You're looking at an extra you look at in almost an extra half time. It's almost like that amount of gap. You've got enough time to go get tapped constructions. Have a drink. If you wanted to nip to the loo, you could nip to the loo.
00:18:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
but it's not even just that like there's so much to do but also in that time it's an unknown of actually are we now defending a lead are we still fighting again to claw that back because it's been disallowed like it's just ridiculous
00:18:00
Zak
You could come back.
00:18:13
Zak
and And like the frailty of the players off the back of, especially the results we've had recently means that that is going to affect the game. And it did. They wobbled a little bit. Luckily they were able to persevere through and it's upsetting.
00:18:23
Zak
We kind of played for the draw after that point, you know but like you, we shouldn't have had to play for the draw because we shouldn't have been too one up. It's, it's mad absolute insanity.
00:18:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
What happened?
00:18:31
Zak
And even.
00:18:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
I thought we were supposed to be having semi-automated offside by now. but what I thought that was supposed to be coming in in the international break in October.
00:18:37
Zak
No, no, no, it wasn't to do with that. It was one's on side. It's apparently Adam of Armstrong, I don't know. The problem is, is like it's almost Phil's minority reporting, right? where like We're now starting to have to police player intentions. So if you're not offside, but you maybe thought that you were going to go into an offside position, we were now just saying, well, we've decided that in this game, like Adam Armstrong is looking to play offside in 45 minutes, so he's just going to get a card now. and it's like but Genuinely, why not?
00:19:08
Zak
like It's about as made up as the rest of it. It's just infuriating. It's upsetting that there's a lot of this season, which has been from the players and the manager and say what you want, that has been dire.
00:19:19
Zak
Don't get me wrong. We're not in this position entirely down to the fact that there's VAR decisions.
00:19:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the first part optimizes that as well, to be clear, because actually, if Brighton took their chances, the game could have been put to bed before we even got into the game.
00:19:24
Zak
The amount of VAR decisions...
00:19:29
Zak
Oh yeah, 100%.
00:19:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
we could It's exactly what happened at Bournemouth, in fact. like like we were out By the time we got into the game, we were out of it because they'd put away their chances, and Brighton could very easily have been three or four up, and not that was it, game over.
00:19:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that's part of the reason, I guess, why from the top level looking in, I'm happy that we got a point because it is good for us and it's a step in the right direction and it's better than nothing.
00:19:47
Zak
so
00:20:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you know awful VAR decisions aside, we were lucky really to be in a position to have be be scoring for the win.
00:20:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
So yeah.
00:20:10
Zak
Before the game we would have taken it um we'll discuss Our feelings of the rest of this game and going into the next game after a word from our partners at the Global Sports Podcast Network. The Global Sports Podcast Network is changing the face of football podcasting with dedicated daily content for every Premier League team, women's football, fancy football and a daily Premier League wrap up broadcasted in five different languages. This is your one stop shop for your daily football fix. Find GSPN wherever you find your usual podcasts. Right, so
00:20:41
Zak
So yeah, you're you're right. like The problem is is it's before the game started, if you'd offered us a point and you'd offered me a point, I would have taken it. I'd snap your hands off. But it's like the way that we ended up getting that draw is the problem.
00:20:54
Zak
It's the same way we lost to Liverpool.
00:20:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
I hope that kills you.
00:20:57
Zak
Yeah, but this the thing is is, it's like, I don't understand it. if if they If they scored through at the beginning and we got that one goal at the end, like towards the end of the second half, then we maybe got an extra consolation goal. It wouldn't be as much of a problem, but it's been two weeks in a row now has been the difference between like actual solid leads. And then before that as well, you had the decision at Wolf. So, you know, like,
00:21:18
Zak
i can't believe that we're having to discuss these and you know you can't celebrate a goal anymore ever because if you celebrate a goal you're gonna have to wait five minutes to find out if it's actually gone through and like this is where i've like almost missed the championship where i'm like occasionally decisions might go your way occasionally they won't but i also won't need to sit around in the stadium for five to ten minutes waiting to find out this isn't nfl and this is where we go back to the americanization of football is like
00:21:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:21:43
Zak
If the entire point is to make it clear and obvious and sort out these problems, you shouldn't be waiting seven minutes. If you're discussing it for seven minutes, it's not clear and obvious because you're discussing it for seven minutes.
00:21:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:53
Zak
That means that there is disagreement there.
00:21:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
And look, and i I actually I completely agree, but I also feel like it could be alleviated. justs Just have that discussion on a microphone, on a speaker. Like they're doing rugby. It works in rugby. You hear the referee and they you look at the decision and they go, oh, yeah, they've clashed heads. It was his fault. It's the yellow card. But the mitigation is this. Bang. Then there's no discussion. You've heard it. You know what's going on.
00:22:18
Zak
But then there will be consistency with it.
00:22:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
it is
00:22:20
Zak
This is the problem is that they know they're not consistent enough. And if they all have discussions, you'd probably realize the amount of ambiguity around it.
00:22:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
i pay
00:22:26
Zak
And then we're going to have another meeting with Howard Webb again.
00:22:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
It would force the, that's the thing though, it would, it would force the consistency to be right because they, you know, instead of three days later, it coming out on Sky Sports News that the audio has been recorded and released. It's just there and then, and they just have to sharpen their ideas up because it's, it's ridiculous that, and it's not even just us, it's ridiculous that this entire season, basically every weekend, there are not just one talking point based on referee and referee incisions.
00:22:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's multiple games every weekend. It's three or four shocking decisions. And it's got to stop. And I think that that clarity, forcing that clarity, is the only way to do it. Because at first, they will get probably get called out a lot for how awfully inconsistent they are. But eventually, it will level out because they'll have to do better to not get called out. like It's the lack of accountability that's causing it, in my opinion.
00:23:26
Zak
So that's what you think the problem is. You don't think VAR itself is the problem because this is where you get to that issue where I think that's just covering it up.
00:23:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, I've been far off. I'd be happy with being far off completely, but i just don't I think we saw that that's never going to happen. i The technology itself is not the problem. It's the people using it. And I mean, you and I, of all people in our profession, know that that's the case in a number of strokes of life. but i
00:23:49
Zak
Yeah, it's always user error, no offense, but it usually is.
00:23:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
a problem in chair, not in computer. is It's exactly right because you know the technology's fine, but the people using it are making these awful decisions and cut it back.
00:24:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just go to your semi-automated offside. Is it offside if it's not? and Then if the referee makes mistakes around that, fine. It's human error.
00:24:13
Zak
But again, seven minutes is just insane.
00:24:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's easier to accept.
00:24:17
Zak
th is That is nuts.
00:24:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's It's ridiculous. It's bad.
00:24:20
Zak
That's what I can't get my head around like this. And then also...
00:24:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look mate, we're focusing on the positives. We had a ah ah great second half performance. We got in a position to be moaning about not winning against the team who are currently sat in second in the league.
00:24:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
like
00:24:34
Zak
get me wrong, like the second half performance, let's also not break away from the fact the first half performance was dire and reshaping down, but they held their nerve and we won.
00:24:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah But trying to focus on the positives.
00:24:42
Zak
And and that's how there is.
00:24:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
And nina now yeah we're half a squad down of suspension going into
00:24:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
a midweek game against Chelsea, but but but that's, you know, I like to put the silver line on everything.
00:24:50
Zak
yeah
00:24:52
Zak
oh
00:24:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
What that is, is an opportunity for these players that are on the fringe to show their potential and show why they get in.
00:25:02
Zak
and smile up Next up, isn't it? Next man up. Because there were a couple of couple of people, this sort of mana came on and didn't look less interested in being on the field.
00:25:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I've got mixed memories from my last two trips to St Mary's to watch Chelsea play, because one of them was a staggering win.
00:25:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
in our relegation season that really came out of nowhere, but also I vividly remember the season before sitting through 90 minutes when we got beat 6-0 and even Tino Werner scored. so like
00:25:32
Zak
it's I think Chelsea are always a weird one because they're one of the only lonely teams that when I talk about how we've only got three players left from the last time when sort of we were in the league, you look at them and they ah have have about 30 new players a season.
00:25:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it.
00:25:45
Zak
like so yeah we will but i may to to appoint A point is a point at the end
00:25:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
We will I'm sure cover that in depth in the next couple of days as we look forward to our midweek trip. some mary
Closing Remarks and Call to Action
00:25:55
Zak
of the day.
00:25:55
Zak
A point is a point towards survival. it's we're not We're nowhere near there yet. but we can take pride in the fact that we know the Brighton lads thought we were going to go lose 3-0. We didn't.
00:25:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah ma Someone get Russell Martin a leather jacket and a motorbike because the great escape is on.
00:26:15
Zak
Sure, I feel like he just needs a hug at this point. A hug and another apology letter from PGMOL that he can add to the fire that he consistently burns them all in at this point, so who knows. But either way,
00:26:30
Zak
Well, mate, it's it's been a pleasure. Thank you for joining me for you know a round up of of ah one of the better games we've had so far this season. We go into another game, as you said, with lots of things to talk about, different positions, people coming into deputizing areas they're probably not used to deputizing.
00:26:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mate, the way fitness is going, Jack Stevens in goal that you joked about last episode might become a reality. Do you know what I mean?
00:26:55
Zak
But it's going to be
00:26:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's one of the only players not suspended at the moment because he dealt with his suspension when he called the referee something, I mean, probably accurate.
00:27:02
Zak
Onto wards.
00:27:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:27:05
Zak
Yeah, so there we go. we've yeah We're going to go into to an exciting midweek game where everyone's going to be tired and there'll be cramp all round and we'll all be grouchy and have no voices.
00:27:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we're going to try and record an episode at 11 o'clock at night after a night out on St Mary's.
00:27:15
Zak
But it's going to be great. Yeah, why not?
00:27:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Why not?
00:27:19
Zak
It's going to be fine. So yeah, that'll be that'll be that. So thank you very much for joining us today, everybody. We are the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network.
00:27:30
Zak
We are a growing podcast. We're all over the place. We're on Twitter, we're on Instagram, we're on TikTok, recently Blue Sky as well. So if you're listening to any of these places or you fancy going as a follower, go for gold. I try to edit some poorly constructed clips with my millennial brain to try and hack these algorithms that I don't understand, because again, millennial. So thank you very much for joining us and we will catch you in the next one. Bye.