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Episode 83: Wildcard Wednesday - Busy week in football...
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Southampton –It has been a busy week in football, we talk David Coote, We talk El Sackicko, we talk some good news for Maya Yoshida and a bit about Spurs.
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Introduction & Southampton's Struggles
00:00:09
Zak
Hello and welcome to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. I'm your host, Zach Ingofinch. I'm joined today by my co-host, as always, Gregory Elliott. How you doing, mate? Good.
00:00:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, what am I? I've almost perked up from the weekend. We're getting there.
00:00:27
Zak
Almost, almost.
00:00:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Part of the process, isn't it?
00:00:30
Zak
It is unfortunately part of the process that we must deal with nowadays. It's just being a Saints fan, isn't it? You know, like, you can't um You can't get around the fact that we put in some horrific performances every single season and be really sad off the back of it. We usually have at least a couple of weeks where we get cross to the manager, maybe even more. it's just
Fan Reactions & Managerial Pressure
00:00:52
Zak
it's just It's just weird vibes around because it's like you're now seeing people come out and defend Russell Martin. You're now seeing people be even more mad than they were before. we're already We've already got the Martin out banners on every social media going for Frostballs.
00:01:07
Zak
Oh good, we got we got this again to do.
00:01:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
I saw the most amazing thing on, I can't even remember what social network it was on if I'm on a sack, but it was on one of them, it was a whole thread of comments of Martin out, Martin out, Martin out, Martin out, and just one buried in there of, in Martin we trust, and that is, seems to be the minority opinion.
00:01:30
Zak
It's a weird time because it's
00:01:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Fair play.
00:01:35
Zak
Who would you replace him with? i don't if I don't even know how to answer that question realistically, because it's like anyone and everyone, but also I don't really want to go for the same managers that every other club ends up firing every other three every after two or three years.
00:01:49
Zak
It just seems pointless. ah just Longevity in football doesn't seem to be a thing that exists anymore, so maybe it's refreshing. We're trying it. Who who knows? It's a so weird time to be to be a Saints fan.
00:02:00
Zak
I think they're opening up the Del Pub soon at St Mary's Day. That's exciting.
00:02:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think that's in time for Sunday's game.
00:02:06
Zak
So that'd be good.
00:02:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Can't wait to pay more for a pint than the already rather extortionate pint at St Mary's, that's fine.
00:02:12
Zak
yeah Yeah, but it won't be outside. So that's what you're paying for. You pay me extra couple of quid to be not in the rain like we were the other day. Yes, it's a bit of a weird one. So obviously, Wednesday's our wildcard. We have a lot of things in the background that we we plan and stuff, but we're both busy be busy, busy people. And so we've decided to just do like a sort of general chitchat today of stuff that's going on.
00:02:36
Zak
Around
Referee Suspension & Bias Perception
00:02:36
Zak
the league stuff that's going along Yeah, it's kind of mad there is so much going on and obviously The story that I wanted to start with today Greg, which is coming as absolutely no surprise to anybody Is that Koot was sacked after his investigation?
00:02:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Busy time of year for football, isn't it? There is a lot going on.
00:02:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:54
Zak
So it was suspended after a thorough investigation into his conduct so sure if any of that correct
00:02:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
and yeah look They've got to do the investigation properly and and cross the T's and dot the I's and make sure it's done properly.
00:03:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
but it would have been more a surprise if they came out after that investigation and didn't sack him frankly. Especially with you you know presumably this is off the back of the investigation of the the sort of initial stuff that came out and based on the fact of all of the stuff that came out after that as well. Yes nobody can be surprised by it least of all I suspect David Koot.
00:03:31
Zak
Yes, I think there's a couple of things that the problem with this is it it's it's massively harmful for PJ Manuel for referees in general, and it kind of feeds into that whole toxic like they're planning, they plan to give the big six wins and stuff like that, because it's like, clearly, this is just a guy who
00:03:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
that you should never assign to malice that which would could be explained by incompetence and
00:03:57
Zak
There we go. that that That sums up the whole thing, right? like that's that The fact that everyone seems to think there's some conspiracy behind it. I'm like, mate, this guy just did a load of substances and ended up getting in trouble.
00:04:10
Zak
And he has a lot of money. And when people who have a lot of money do have a lot of money, they often get into illicit substances with a simple fact of they get bored of the normal things that people do. you know Clearly, it was in some sort of crisis, probably in an even bigger crisis now.
00:04:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
And look, look, tradition now states he's been sacked from PGML. And so I look forward to the 2025 tour around all of the clubs of David Koot reveals the truth of PGML.
00:04:34
Zak
Yeah, not even that, like, you just, you just, you get, you get a PR deal, you write a book, you you say you're stupid and you're sorry.
00:04:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's inevitable, right? Like, yeah.
00:04:41
Zak
It will probably be devastating because again, it's a couple of mistakes that have been, you know, you clearly there's someone, he upset the wrong people for the amount of stuff to come out like it did. and And that's that, like, it it's, it's not ideal.
00:04:54
Zak
It's not ideal for refereeing. It's a tough time to get to refereeing. I know that we've been quite critical, never of the people, more of the system itself. and the decision making up to the top.
00:05:04
Zak
think it's a horrible job to have to do and i you know shout out to all the ones that do it.
00:05:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't think that's strictly true. I think that one time we were very critical, specifically Anthony Taylor, but other than that...
00:05:12
Zak
This is true but I feel like he can take it and none of it's personal abuse mate, it's just the fact that we don't think that he can make decisions correctly.
00:05:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:05:21
Zak
It's hard to stay on a high horse at that point in it. It is what it is but like it's it's damaging I think for for it's damaging for sort of Premier League football and they'll have to really have a think about how they're going to go forward and you know all it's going to take is if anything else comes out about any of the rest of them that that will be really problematic hopefully that isn't the case hopefully it just turns out he was like you know a bad apple amongst a sea of really really refreshing nice apples eyes oh it's difficult in it when money money gets involved
00:05:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right what he did was stupid it'll be the first to tell you that I'm sure and and yeah, it is what it is but It's yeah Right, it's an impossible job and we've talked about it before on the podcast about what the solution might be and even with it sort of Invisible and subconscious bias and how it definitely exists and You know that's
00:06:00
Zak
Mm.
Inherent Biases in Football Refereeing
00:06:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's undisputedly true because, you know, I will admit freely that I have been shopping at Gunwulf Keys and I enjoyed it. And I take my kids to Southsea, but I still like in my soul somehow hate Pompey. That's just the way it's taught. I don't. And, but in the same, you know, like, uh, follow Eagles in American football and I have no real life, uh, alignment to Philadelphia whatsoever.
00:06:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
It just happened that Eagles were the team I picked when I started getting into the NFL. But subsequently, I hate the Cowboys and I can't explain, I can't explain that hatred.
00:07:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just, it's just sport. And, you know, to be in a position where you become a referee, you don't do that outside of the world of football.
00:07:04
Zak
Yeah, you're right
00:07:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Those biases exist in you from the start.
00:07:12
Zak
Yeah, we talked about us before we talked about you can't eliminate bias from everything in life It's just bias is going to exist in every single aspect is you know you yeah You try and have the BBC turn around say sort of like all right They've got a choke would unspun the world which is where they try and you know But make sure that there's news just reported of absolutely no spin and you're like really right But the problem is is that it's really hard to do that unless you're gonna put all views on the table but sometimes all views probably shouldn't be on the table, so That is unfortunately life
00:07:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
But even if you take that sort of out of the way and you just talk ah ah even you know about bias and how it exists, if you're refereeing the same teams every season and you're getting highly and harshly criticized for every decision, rightly or wrongly, if a player takes a dive and you give a penalty and you get criticized in the press and ripped a new one for weeks and weeks about it the next time that player is playing and you're refereeing in the back of your mind somewhere it's got to be you made me look all right you did it last time and you you're less likely to give anything like you're more likely to to let them be found it's just human nature yeah
00:08:21
Zak
Yes, human in it. It's being human is what you're what you're saying, Greg. And that's why it's almost an impossible job. And that's why you're really, strictly supposed to have refereeing teams and maybe having one ultimate arbiter on the pitch.
00:08:34
Zak
Isn't the, we've had lots of discussions before about what we could do, but ultimately I don't think that we can decide it here.
00:08:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
robot wars, robot wars refbot. It's the way, it's the only way.
00:08:42
Zak
Well, when we, when we come back, we'll talk about Osaki because that played out last night and seemingly nobody has been fired as of yet. Russell Martin, I think, is still the favorite to go. we'll have a discussion about that once we hear from our partners at Zincaster.
00:08:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah,
The Precarious Nature of Football Management
00:08:57
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00:09:22
Zak
So last night, Greg, we had we had El Sakio, quote unquote, which is very funny because you could call most of our games that in recent times.
00:09:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's crazy that even that term, Al Secchico, made it as far as the BBC.
00:09:31
Zak
So.
00:09:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
i What has football social media become? That it sort of breaches those there harsh boundaries.
00:09:42
Zak
It's. Yeah, it's it's upsetting. and It must be difficult for managers to just sort of exist in an ecosystem where like the journalists outside it are deciding if they're being fired before their their bosses are.
00:09:55
Zak
West Ham won narrowly, edging out wolves. So it wasn't like it was anything too exciting. Wolves being wolves, you know.
00:10:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Wolves managed to equalise, right? Sort of out of nowhere from what I understand and then immediately threw a goal away.
00:10:09
Zak
Yeah, it's nice to be honest.
00:10:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
And... Yeah.
00:10:13
Zak
Except we got beaten quite quite convincingly by wolves in my opinion.
00:10:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
It does mean that Gary O'Neal is now the odds-on favourite to be the next manager sack. He's 2-7.
00:10:22
Zak
Might be the next manager sacked and the next manager to get a job at silence.
00:10:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh
00:10:27
Zak
Why not?
00:10:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
wow mean, I ah genuinely...
00:10:28
Zak
No, I don't think the case.
00:10:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
upsettingly feel like there are worse options but yeah that would be wild can you imagine 19th 19th to 20th like yeah I don't know it's you're right a weird situation from a pair of managers to be in that your job is so on the line and so dependent that social media is just rife with one of yous getting sacked
00:10:43
Zak
Yeah, it's very upsetting.
00:10:56
Zak
Yeah, like you can understand it in the stadium, but yeah, the fact that that's basically what it's being towered out in the media when realistically, there's still quite a lot to play for for both both teams. it's not like It's not like us where we seem sort of glued to the bottom without really being able to get pick up a point even here or there to try and swim out of danger, right?
00:11:16
Zak
It's very much sort of their seasons could turn if players start playing properly.
00:11:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah well I mean obviously Wolves it's a surprise that they're right down there with us and it's not really a surprise that based off of that sort of he's under the criticism here but it's a bit surprising for me that but West Ham I mean he was new there this season right so he's had what 15 games spaffling you've got a yeah
00:11:20
Zak
and
00:11:35
Zak
Yeah.
00:11:41
Zak
Obviously they they've lost Nick Antonio, who's luckily okay after what was quite a horrific accident. i Yeah, that's pretty, pretty awful. Like X Saint there.
00:11:52
Zak
So really, really bad.
00:11:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
That was pretty shocking. Yeah.
00:11:54
Zak
And hopefully he'll be all right. yeah I don't imagine he'll be back to football if he's had lower limb surgery at 4434. Sorry. So either way, you know, if that's the way to go out, it's devastating.
00:12:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah. Speedy recovery.
00:12:07
Zak
But but but That's one of the reasons that I think that they they put that extra bit of essay effort in and said the sort of the win was for him.
00:12:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:13
Zak
So that's nice. I think, you know, shouldn't, shouldn't require that level of fight.
00:12:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
That is nice. But it's just a bit, it's just a bit baffling to be
00:12:17
Zak
but
00:12:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
for a manager to be that under pressure that soon into what presumably is the start of a new project because it's not like they were firing on cylinders under mortys like they were struggling which is why they got rid of him and you know 14th
00:12:35
Zak
Yeah. Cause
Southampton's Challenges & Fan Frustrations
00:12:35
Zak
just that they're sitting on. Yeah. Oh, everything, everything at this point. Well, if you hear it, if you hear all of the people in the background, mate, they'll say we should be 14th.
00:12:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
god what we'd give to be 14th
00:12:46
Zak
If we'd only put away every single chance we actually had rather than mess about with it in the box.
00:12:54
Zak
It's hard not to bring your things back to Southampton.
00:12:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, and it's just it's just a bit crazy to that it's even a discussion that short into a manager's tenure.
00:13:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
For me, you've got to give them a chance.
00:13:03
Zak
But that says it. that says i think more about our situation than anything else right because like as i said it's only really the sort of there are having people have been quite vocal from the start but it's only been the last week or two that people have really started to turn on Russell Martin and then across the other you know fan bases i remember us having our crossover with wolves they were kind of hoping well if we do lose at least that would mean Gary O'Neill out yeah from West Ham's perspective like i think it's
00:13:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:27
Zak
I think also it's understanding expectations though, right? Like if you win a European trophy and then a couple of years later, you're flirting with relegation. That's a problem. Like we had a situation like that, right?
00:13:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah but with the greatest of respect it wasn't a proper European trophy anyway and they also really struggled in the league that season hey like I understand it and and not to take anything away from their win fantastic for them again what I'd give to be in that position but they they struggled in the league that season and it was very and then sold one of their best players in Declan Rice and so
00:13:39
Zak
Where we were sort of.
00:13:48
Zak
Yeah, but that's what I mean. But like, this is this is the difference between
00:14:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
clearly it's at this point the start of a project you can't expect overnight success. and I know that West Ham are a big club but you've got, so there's a process to get there, it's not going to happen overnight when they were down and around this area last season.
00:14:26
Zak
It's true, but again, it's the problem is, is it, if everyone, yeah, this is, this is your, this is your issue, right?
00:14:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe that's too sensible, maybe I'm just thinking too logically for a football fan mate.
00:14:33
Zak
You're being really level headed about this. And that's not how every everyone treats football. And sometimes, you know, if you go week in, week out and you see, you know, you see what you would have described as a degradation of your football club, or you see an issue and you're worried that, oh, are we going to play like this for forever?
00:14:49
Zak
They'd rather get gone early and replacement someone better. and And it's, I can understand, this is where I can like understand the arguments from pretty much all so all saints fans. And I still don't really know how I feel and where I lie.
00:15:01
Zak
Like there are times after that Chelsea game, I was like, sure, get him gone. And then like, I kind of sit there and think, well, who would we replace Russell Martin with realistically? And then it's like, well, actually anyone might be better, but then anyone might be better.
00:15:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:15:13
Zak
I think back to when we got Pellegrino in who bought our most expensive striker that scored no goals. and And then when we managed to get Nathan Jones, because I don't trust Sports Republic to be able to buy, ah to to get in a better manager than someone that isn't in the championship.
00:15:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah no but even a broken clock's right twice a day they could strike gold with an unknown but you're right i don't think that the difference is though that we're a season and a half into Russell Martin's reign
00:15:27
Zak
So it's kind of.
00:15:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
and even in the championship the the same mistakes that we're seeing sort of elevated this season because it's a harder league still existed like we went 25 games unbeaten but an unreasonable amount of those were draws that we should have won like from the same sort of silly mistakes and it's not
00:15:51
Zak
yeah you're right um's snowwe and
00:16:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's the refusal to learn from those mistakes and change that I think has turned to the hide of opinion for Russell Martin. It's the stubbornness and sticking to his guns too much.
00:16:14
Zak
Yeah, you're right. Trust process.
00:16:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Again, as I've said, the I'm not saying that we need to become a team that singly plays hoofball. I'm just saying maybe don't consistently put your players in a position where they need to be brave.
00:16:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
because that is causing mistakes time and time again. Like, mix it up.
00:16:34
Zak
Yeah, it's an issue. or I saw, I think we had a comment the other day on on one of the, one of the, one of the social media is talking about how like in we've had an injury ravaged season, which is, which is true. However, they should not have put all of their eggs in the basket of Ramsdale being the hope and savior of everything. And it was talking about how we've had loads of suspensions. And that is also due to this way that we play of bravery, where we're quite happy to take quote unquote cynical yellow cards. And then all of a sudden when they all stack up at the same time, like they did the other day.
00:17:03
Zak
caused an absolutely devastating result and sort of getting behind the team and it's I can understand getting behind the team but I can also understand paying a significantly large amount of money to watch essentially what is entertainment and being so depressed at the end of it you've essentially paid for misery and and then to have
00:17:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:22
Zak
your, the manager of your club then sort of blame you for having a laugh and a joke after you've traveled all the way up to Birmingham. Like, I think to be honest, it was just a stupid comment and he probably didn't mean a huge amount by it and was probably rolled up, but it's like, well, you can't just emotional maturity and emotional control needs to be something I think that both our club and ourselves as a fan base need a little bit more of.
00:17:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:17:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
this yeah it'
00:17:47
Zak
Cause we seem to be really bad at going from. sort of one high of absolutely loving a day out Wembley to the absolute meltdown of just fire him, fire the board, fire everyone.
00:17:58
Zak
And it's like, I think everyone realistically.
00:17:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's not it's been a process to get there though mate because it's just the it's the same It's the refusal to change. There's been optimism that through the season from most fans that, oh, well there are performances that we can build on, but it's just, it's still the same.
00:18:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
We haven't built on anything. We just do the same thing every week. And that is where the frustration comes.
00:18:20
Zak
Yeah, though you're right.
00:18:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
And you're right about injuries and suspensions. And, you know, we've talked a bit about, like the fitness powerhouse we used to be that we no longer are, but But there are more games, so I get it, like every team has struggled with injuries for as long as I can remember at this point.
00:18:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've got a huge squad though, but also our supposed leader and captain, Jack Stevens, by the time he comes back from this suspension, will have missed 43% of the season through suspension.
00:18:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, it's just poor decisions.
00:18:55
Zak
Yeah, there's just, there's a lot all the time.
00:18:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
is's it is unlucky that we've had Ramsdale break his hand and the suspensions all come at the same time but there's poor decisions as well around that have that have put us in that situation and it's not like we haven't got a big squad we haven't got a good squad but we do have a big squad and
00:19:19
Zak
Yeah, this is the other problem though,
Squad Depth Issues at Southampton
00:19:20
Zak
isn't it? Because that's what we've realized is our depth isn't is about as deep as a puddle and that was a problem because part of coming back to the Premier League was supposedly to build enough squad depth to deal with issues like this and what we've actually done is not and um it's becoming more and more obvious as the weeks go by unfortunately. Oh right well well we'll take a little ah ah break here to hear from the Global Sports Podcast Network but when we come back we'll have a bit of good news for Saints fans especially Saints fans like me that
00:19:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:19:50
Zak
live rent-free in the sort of 2013 to 2016 era.
Celebrating Maya Yoshida's MLS Success
00:19:54
Zak
The Global Sports Podcast Network is changing the face of football podcasting with dedicated daily content for every Premier League team, women's football, fantasy football, and a daily Premier League wrap-up broadcasted in five different languages. This is your one-stop shop for your daily football fix. Find GSPN wherever you find your usual podcasts. Rightio Greg, so it's not the most exciting thing in the world for us personally.
00:20:17
Zak
Uh, for me personally, it's kind of exciting. and Um, but, but, uh, Maya Ashida won a, won a league cup for the first time this career. Uh, LA galaxy won the MLS MLS cup.
00:20:28
Zak
So, uh, while your sheet of beer, you know, big part of that squad got to celebrate finally, winning a league cup. How nice is that?
00:20:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
that's That's awesome, yeah. Good for him. that Yeah, great.
00:20:40
Zak
Yep. They beat the New York Red Bulls, uh, two, one. in the game where seemingly the first 30 minutes had pretty much all of the action. I guess it's like, because obviously the MLS plays a bit different, it's almost like they're Super Bowl, right? So they managed to win, which is which is very nice. It's the culmination of all the playoffs and bits and pieces.
00:20:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I can't claim to be an expert on the MLS.
00:21:01
Zak
Yeah, it's it's it's a weird one, but either way, it's a kind of exciting exciting to see by Yoshida win something.
00:21:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
If I'm honest, it's not.
00:21:11
Zak
after many, many, many years of trying and being, you know, such a ah big part of our years ago sort of squad.
00:21:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:19
Zak
It's ah it's nice to see people don't do great things. We say this quite a lot about our players. And I think this is the problem with a lot of Saints fans is that, myself included, is we do live a little bit in the past. There's already people this week talking about, oh, well, Houston was doing amazing at Wolfsburg.
00:21:32
Zak
I'm like, yeah, but when he went, he really needed to go because we were probably going to go down. We did go down.
00:21:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah
00:21:38
Zak
You know, oh, we should bring, we should bring back Ruben Salas. He just got bought out a Harlem. Like we already complaining that we got a championship manager. What about daddy row? He was the guy that was assistant manager to it's a has rule at one point.
00:21:49
Zak
I'm like, guys, f please.
00:21:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Look, you said it as a joke yesterday, but I unironically saw someone on social media say, if money's the issue, why don't we just give it to the law until the end of the season? It can't hurt.
00:22:03
Zak
That's what I mean, right? Like, we're like, why don't we just bring back Ricky Lambert? why not just bring back you know letizia you'll teach them a bunch of philosophy and also shopfully how to shoot a goal but yes it is a is a weird thing it's just yeah it's an unfortunate part i think of of being a fan of a club like ours is you do you kind of get trapped in moments of time where you have the success and and that's because it's the nice times to look back on right it's like
00:22:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Just aim at the UFOs. they'll go then They'll take it in the goal for you.
00:22:33
Zak
you know the pipe the player final was such an amazing time and as you said I think that's genuinely what got Russell Martin to the position that he's in where after as many games as we've had he's it's only now the sort of noise is starting to get really kind of loud and you know if we win a couple games maybe that would change but I also just I struggled to believe we'll win any anything the good news though is obviously Tottenham already, Tottenham's own squad are kicking out at them.
Tottenham's Internal Issues
00:23:00
Zak
So I saw that Christian Romero came out to criticise the Spurs board for the lack of spending. Could you imagine one of our players coming out and criticising Sports Republic for not spending money?
00:23:10
Zak
I'd find that insane, but there we are.
00:23:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
that is yeah that's crazy right to come out and say that as a player is i mean we've we've heard it from everyone who's ever been at Tottenham right that that that place is rotten from the top down so i mean yeah i mean if you look at the list of quality managers they've had who have won everywhere else and not spurs and say that spurs are the problem i mean even
00:23:24
Zak
Yeah.
00:23:27
Zak
but it's just you look at every manager that's come out of it.
00:23:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
and his reaction last year to Spurs preferring to lose to Man City so that Arsenal didn't win the league. right like
00:23:51
Zak
Yeah, it's very, a, um
00:23:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
says it oh
00:23:55
Zak
friend of mine from university who's like a die-hard Spurs fan and and I watch for sort of pain and trials and tribulations that he's gone through since I've known him being a Spurs fan and we'll probably speak to some of the Spurs guys this week but yeah it it does fail feel utterly painful because that is a problem where you can specifically point at your board and go Well, you're the main issue, right?
00:24:15
Zak
Like this is, this is the thing. It seems that because but then also you can't say they haven't invested, like they haven't invested to the levels of sort of Man City and Chelsea, but also like, you know, they bought Salanke this year, you know, Madison had a good season last season.
00:24:28
Zak
So far this season, like they've, they've bought smart, I guess they haven't bought terribly. Uh, you know, Archie gray hasn't quite got firing yet.
00:24:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:24:36
Zak
And that might be to do with the way that they're they're doing things, but it yeah, it doesn't seem, I think, you know, It must not be fun, but to have your players turn around and start saying that about the ownership of the clubs nuts.
00:24:47
Zak
Like I could never imagine sort of, could you imagine Ryan Manning being like, there's not enough investment in this inequality of the squad. It's just far too cool to think really, isn't it? But it is what it is.
00:24:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah by the hand that feeds it because if they're because with the deepest of respect for Ryan Manning, who has been half decent for us in the games that he's played this season, if we're spending money to replace people, he's pretty high on that list.
00:25:10
Zak
Yeah. so and so
00:25:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like, right behind someone who can actually score goals that isn't a defender.
00:25:15
Zak
That'll be the day, mate. That will be the day.
Closing Remarks & Audience Engagement
00:25:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
like
00:25:18
Zak
We'll have to see. We've still got plenty of season to go. We're hoping butre hoping things don't turn too toxic.
00:25:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like... That'd
00:25:26
Zak
It's not going to turn toxic here.
00:25:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
be fine, mate. I think by the time it gets to Sunday,
00:25:28
Zak
Put it that way.
00:25:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
By the time we get Sunday, everyone will be up for it as much as they can be. We'll be behind the team, and then you know we see what happens on the pitch. and
00:25:39
Zak
I think if it's anyone we can take results from, it will be Spurs.
00:25:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
even Even when it starts to turn negative, there's still were some self-degrading humor involved as a Saints fan.
00:25:50
Zak
Oh, it's always, that's always fun.
00:25:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
So here's what is.
00:25:52
Zak
We have the ball was, uh, again, the, the kind of chance that, that my wife hasn't had. She didn't really pay arch attention to our relegation season, but obviously I'm far more football involved in football focus nowadays.
00:26:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:26:04
Zak
Cause once we do this, we do a daily podcast about it. So, so she kind of listens a lot more and sort of and watching her be like, but, but surely everything's miserable. I'm like, well, yeah, exactly. And you don't want it to be miserable.
00:26:15
Zak
So you just start making fun and then it's great.
00:26:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:19
Zak
And it was.
00:26:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Johnston's paint trophy. You'll never win that. There we go.
00:26:22
Zak
yeah
00:26:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:26:23
Zak
So there you go, with a with a ah ah bright blaze of optimism we go into tomorrow with our hopefully crossover episode with the Tottenham guys and we'll be able to be even more optimistic about how we're somehow going to win 3-0.
00:26:39
Zak
It's baby maybe, maybe enough for El Sacchio who actually knows.
00:26:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe our second clue too.
00:26:44
Zak
Maybe.
00:26:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
but Maybe this time someone will actually get sacked, who knows?
00:26:45
Zak
but El Sakio to Electric Boogaloo. By the way, it's been ah ah it's been a pleasure, Greg. Thanks for this little sort of random chat about football in general and some of the news stories that have cropped up. We hope you have enjoyed listening to us today. Like us and follow us on all of the social medias if you fancy doing so. We're we're still a growing podcast. We're growing every day and we're just really, really enjoying the ride and we appreciate all of your support and all of you listening to us. We saw some of the Spotify wraps and sword some of us saw us quite up the top and it kind of reminds us all we actually do have people to listen to us so shout out to all of those people we we we we love you very much so have a wonderful rest of your Wednesday and we will see you tomorrow