In the fourth installment of our new podcast, we sit down with Professor Rory Cormac to discuss coups, subversion, and covert influence. Professor Cormac teaches International Relations at the University of Nottingham, and specialises in secret intelligence and covert action. Rory is the author of "Disrupt and Deny: Spies, Special Forces, and the Secret Pursuit of British Foreign Policy", and the co-author of "The Black Door" and "The Secret Royals". Recently, Rory has published "How to Stage a Coup", which examines covert action and influence.