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Crossover Special: Chelsea (Ending the 45 year wait!)
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Gavin joins Jake and Yashar from the Daily Chelsea podcast to look back at a momentous win for the Cottagers.
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Crossover Podcast with Daily Fulham
00:00:06
Speaker
podcast network Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Daily Chelsea podcast. But today it is not just the Daily Chelsea podcast. Unfortunately for the Daily Chelsea team, um we are joined, of course, by the Daily Fulham team as well.
00:00:23
Speaker
and therefore was that of our introductions. We are joining firstly from Daily Film. Gavin, how are you doing, mate? I'm coping at the minute. A little bit worse for where after, Chris. I've been feeling great over the last couple of days, but looking forward to talking to all things of Chelsea in full. I'm probably looking forward to this podcast a bit more than you guys.
00:00:40
Speaker
Yeah, this is a bit of a sore one, isn't it? A bit of a tough one. and But I'd also like to welcome ah to the Daily Chelsea team for the first time. um Yasha, how are you doing, mate? Welcome to the Daily Chelsea team. Not the best podcast to start off on, but hey, ho. Yes, wish was my body better under circumstances, but yeah, yeah.
00:01:00
Speaker
I'm very happy to be here and finally wipe my tears from yesterday. So yeah, and so of course, so usually we obviously do a forecast with the opposite team across over Thursday with obviously all the fixtures, you know, obviously there's quite a lot coming at the moment. So we've decided to do a review with the daily film team this week. um And probably, ah I wish we had done it preview as a preview, but honestly, but, you know, but the results happened.
Fulham's Tactical Approach Against Chelsea
00:01:29
Speaker
Fulham finished the game at 2-1 leaders, despite Chelsea going 1-0 up. um Gavin, we'll throw over to you first. and i so I sort of noticed that, you know, not it maybe not in terms of personnel, but it looked like that Fulham had lined up a little bit differently, maybe to counter a bit of um what ends up at risk, as your typical game plan is, you know, the you know the possession of football and having one of these fallbacks come into midfield.
00:01:52
Speaker
and How did you feel sort of heading into the game? did you Was you sort of confident in picking up a point? Yeah it's it's a funny one really with Fulham this season because they've shown in the games against the bigger clubs they can go away from home and put in a performance and even the result we saw that two weeks ago whenever it was against Liverpool and Anfield recently they went to Spurs and outplayed them recently and even at home against Arsenal manage to take points off them. So you're talking about free the three main title contenders, they've taken points off all of them in the space of the last three weeks. So I was actually quietly confident going into this game and I'm not just saying that because I'm on the daily Fulham podcast, it's just because i I've seen what Fulham can do in these games and the way they set up and there's a belief about them these days that they probably didn't have in the past where there's not that inferiority complex going into these games and that they can impose their style onto the game and
00:02:38
Speaker
Yeah, i I didn't think they'd win, I'll be honest. I thought they could get a point out of the game, um but there's no games I go into now watching Fulham where i'm I'm like, they have no chance at all. Interesting. I mean, I was i was definitely a bit worried as a Chelsea fan heading into this. like Obviously, we ah when it comes to Christmas, I think everyone's form sort of goes a bit wonky anyway, just because of the pile up of fixtures, you know the amount of pressure that has on your squads. But again, you know sort of ah ah home a home derby against Fulham on Boxing Day, I sort of smell a little bit of, I wasn't too confident in us picking up a result.
Chelsea's Lineup and Confidence
00:03:15
Speaker
Yashar, how did you feel sort of when the lineups came out? And you know I think we it looks like we had a pretty strong lineup considering past couple of games and the injury issues we had. and Did you feel confident heading into this?
00:03:27
Speaker
Yeah, I think firstly, like I think the biggest thing of was, i I think personally, I was like quite the opposite for me. I was really confident going into this game. um I think coming from the draw against Everton, um it was a game that I felt the players were up for, and they needed three points just to keep that pressure on Liverpool. I know we keep saying we're not title contenders, and we're going to keep that merry-go-round going. But um yeah, I think going into this game, we really I think me and my pals were really confident. But I think the line-up was, it was a strong line-up and it was the first question I had of Maresco in yesterday's game, which was, like I think, leaving Nonny Madueke out of the team completely, which I think shocked me, firstly, but I think at the same time, my first thought was, it was one of two things, as either he fell out with the manager beforehand,
00:04:24
Speaker
or he didn't train well. but but We've seen Mareska. um He's done this before. um If you don't train what you don't train ah competitively, he does drop the player. Which I do agree with. I think, however, going into this game, we needed something different. And I thought Mareska missed the mark there with Nonny.
00:04:44
Speaker
Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I did find it quite surprising to see Nonny dropped. And I think the worrying thing for us Chelsea fans, you know, was this is not the first situation we've had with. I agree. and this in in In this sort of place. And it's definitely a bit worrying in terms of, you know, this is the time, you know, where you need to be at least have your attitude correct. You know, you can maybe sometimes not perform on the pitch, but even then, you know, you've got more attacking players ready to take those those positions. If your attitude is not there either, then you you can basically sort of say goodbye to the squad and it's you know by the way they need to be careful at this time because Sancho and Neto seems to be solidifying themselves a bit. I did think they performed decently attacking wise yesterday despite the result. Gavin we'll come we'll come back over
Cole Palmer's Impact and Fulham's Resilience
00:05:27
Speaker
to you. What what did you
00:05:29
Speaker
You know, so in that sort of first half, I think Chelsea obviously performed pretty well. We had that, you know, I don't think we're doing absolutely brilliantly ah until that point of that Cole Palmer goal, but Cole Palmer is Cole Palmer. He'll mo make a goal like that out of nowhere. That's what he can do. and After that sort of first half came and went, did you sort of still feel like you were still going to maybe get a result out of this or did you maybe feel that Chelsea were starting to pile on?
00:05:50
Speaker
I think it was important that they went into half time no worse than a goal behind. I don't know if you remember there was an important Calvin Bassi challenge on a stroke of half time. It looked like Cole Palm was one-on-one with the keeper. If they had gone in 2-0 at a half time then it would have been a completely different ballgame. But as you said up until the first goal, I thought it was quite an even-ish game. um Cole Palm's superb play is a brilliant piece of individual play. and it seemed to hurtful them a little bit then the confidence they were misplacing passes weren't quite making the right decisions and what we also got to remember is we talk about selection and personnel and this is the first time really I've ever seen on the mark of silver that they've played three centre halves operating with that back five they have sort of up-tinkered with a back five but normally it's sort of a woebe's dropping back there but this was the first time they've generally gone to a game with three centre halves, east of the op, jockem Anderson
00:06:36
Speaker
and Calvert Bassey and I thought for maybe the first half an hour of the game there might have been some teething problems and just players getting used to their roles and maybe I thought there was a bit of nervousness at the back but yeah as I said I think Bernd Leno made a crucial save as well from Kookarela so after that goal I thought Chelsea we were starting to get on top so Fulham probably they did need that 15 minutes to get in and Marco Silva to give that team talk um to boy them for a second half and see how they could get back into the game.
00:07:05
Speaker
And just from from ah from a sort of tactical standpoint Gavin, and I know you sort of asked this at the start, do you do you think the sort of three centre backs was maybe to sort of push to try and keep Chelsea much wider or do you think it was just to sort of take us more head on in the midfield which was sort of where, which is sort of Palmer's occupied space? Do you think you were more scared of sort of stopping Karl Palmer or stopping our wingers?
00:07:27
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, if they will intend on something called Palm, it certainly wasn't evident for the first half an hour fourth on this. That's when I come back to the nervousness of people not being so sure of their position. Certainly different for a lot of the players. I know Calvin Bassi playing in a different role we saw in Maraud in four year run. Really good run, didn't he, in the first half?
00:07:43
Speaker
um But yeah, well it was a surprise to most fun fans, because we were wondering, at coming into the game, how they would like it. Would it shape up as a back five? Because there was an injuries, injury doubts over Sasalukic, and Sandeberg was missing this game, injured injured, he came off in the Southampton game. So we were wondering, what are they going to do? and Are they going to play um one of the centre halves as a DM? But no, it was that back five. And I think it was just,
00:08:04
Speaker
because they've had so much success on that left side this season with Uobi and Robinson dovetailing well, so I just think they wanted to push Robinson forward as much as they can, so, you know, Neto was playing on that side, so give him some work to do defensively. Yeah, I mean, I think there's definitely one name you, I mean, I don't know if for them saw it as the same sort of thing, but I think that one name you mentioned there, Uobi, I think that was one player who maybe was a bit, felt it was quite squashed in the first half, but certainly started to make a difference in the second half, and he started to get a bit more freedom.
00:08:34
Speaker
and well Just before we head to a break, Yashar, we'll quickly talk about the goal that did send us in 1-1 at half-time and you know was looking like it was possibly going to be the winning goal for quite a while. What did you think? Just just give us a quick shout on just Karl Palmer in general and taking that goal. and and And the sort of response to obviously his form because he's obviously not done too well the previous two or three games and then just yeah shut off and pull something like that off. I think
Comparisons to Ed Hazard
00:09:00
Speaker
we called, that is the excellence he had. and That goal reminded me a lot about Ed and Hazard against West Ham.
00:09:04
Speaker
um He passed two or three players and just taking it on himself. I think with Carl, I think he lacks that confidence in it like a striker like Nicholas Jackson. And I think with someone like him, he took the ball himself and he said, you know what, I'm going to make something happen. And it was a great goal and great goal. I think seeing from a different angle, I think Leno could have done better there. um The speed of the ball.
00:09:32
Speaker
I think the venom he puts in it, it wasn't as fast as I thought. So like, I think Leno made the most of it. um yeah yeah That's what I feel. But like, nevertheless, needed that goal, especially in the first half, just to set that dominance, set the set that trend going on.
00:09:52
Speaker
That's what I thought. I was like, listen, my confidence stays. I reckon. Yeah. So like my thought was we're going to score two or three more. And obviously evident that we didn't. But like, you know, Cole Palmer goal was brilliant. Like, Ed and Hazard esque, as I like to say, that was a great finish. A great intelligent player who 18 goals in 18 games. like I think 18 goal contributions in 18 games is something that now is a standard for Cole Palmer. And like when he has a ghost game,
00:10:19
Speaker
as there's moments where you're thinking, what can he do? And we look for him back, you know, for some, some answers in which he did give us yesterday for the first off. 100%, yeah. And it's it's funny you mentioned one player there, um obviously Bernd Leno, who I agree probably could have done better for that goal, but I would say definitely ah made up for himself in the second half. Unbelievable goalkeeper. Yeah. and Well, which we will of course come to. We're going to take a very quick break and then we will discuss the second half and the unfortunate capitulation of Chelsea. We'll be back in just a second. Do you have a story to tell that the world needs to hear?
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00:11:33
Speaker
And we are back on the crossover between daily Chelsea and daily Fulham. ah We are covering the 2-1 wins of Fulham at Stamford Bridge.
Bernd Leno's Crucial Saves
00:11:42
Speaker
ah We've just discussed, of course, the first half and the Cole Palmer goal. But then, of course, guys, we moved into the second half of the game and this was where, I mean, the second half is ah a bit in my eyes, a story of two halves, not necessarily split, you know, down the middle, 23 and a half minutes to each, whatever it is, sorry. and But,
00:12:02
Speaker
Yesha, you know, we was just talking, ah you know, before the break about Karl Palmer's quality and, you know, how Leno maybe could have done slightly better for that goal. and Leno made one save in the first half and then six in the second. And my God, every single save was incredible. and When those first couple of chances, you know, the big chance we had, you know, Jackson, I think Neto had one as well, um that Leno saved really well.
00:12:27
Speaker
and when that when Leno was sort of starting to pull off these sort of saves were you starting to think this is maybe not going to be a win for us? It's funny because it does seem like every goalkeeper we face has an absolute blinder of a match like Jordan Pickford for example like it just it's just so funny how every goalkeeper we face there's no mistakes nothing he's just straight unbelievable shot stopping and playing out from the back but yes I think with those With the Cucarella chance, it needed to go in and he should have scored. I think for a defender three yards out, you need to score that. um You go against the ball of the direction, you need to score that. but
00:13:05
Speaker
I think Valeno is a huge, confident booster for himself, especially for the first goal he let in, um saving the crew Cruechella's chance. like I think boosting him back up. So that's how I feel. it's I think as the game went on more and more, and there's a lot of things I could say, but but we did lack that energy. And it's surprising for me that Maresca didn't see that.
00:13:29
Speaker
to make the subs quicker, which he didn't. He made one sub. yeah So like i think I felt that during the game, it's as the game went on, my confidence dropped and dropped and dropped. Especially with Fulham, they score early goals. like could They score late goals. They know how to score late goals. They know how to bring the game back, which they did. And evidently, we paid the price. and I think I felt the game was lost due to Mareska. From the beginning of the season, i was a like I'm a huge advocate of Mareska. Between him and Thomas Frank, I won in Mareska. His points per game are less star. And even for Manchester City as well, um's a huge I think it would bring something different to Chelsea. and i think
00:14:18
Speaker
it I think yesterday's game did show his inexperience with not seeing the game of their team lacking in energy, lacking in fight that they usually give and not, first not bringing Nonny Amanda away, okay? And I think he has his own reasons. I'm not going to say he should have brung him even though he doesn't train well. He should have, I think he has given his reason, which is really good. I feel we have to keep that Chelsea standard like we did ah under Mourinho, under Conte, under Tuca, which we did. So, but,
00:14:48
Speaker
The game was lost due to mismanagement of subbing on players. Mark Gui, Mark Gui, just again brimming with confidence, 18 years old, scoring a hat check. I get it in the conference league. However, I think bringing someone like a target man, number nine, who can hold up the play and actually give Chelsea the time to actually get some energy under their belt, and which we did unfortunately. and I think Sancho and Neto did really well. And Neto did superbly coming up from the back. I think him supporting the right back, it who like he's a really, really good um winger to actually help out the defence. However, there was moments where he was too far deep that he couldn't get forward. Yeah. but As much as how fast he is, those moments where he should, you know, stay up there and like, probably due to mismanagement of the defence as well. so
00:15:44
Speaker
But yes, to answer your question, during the game, as the time went on, our feeling were on top. like as to Every 10 minutes, they're on top even more, and then like like I think eventually like the straw would have snapped. so Fair enough. Yeah, yeah, I sort of agree with you there. Gavin, what from your point of view, what what was sort of the turning point for Fulham? Because I know, because obviously, Leno was pulling off these saves sort of continuously maybe every five or 10 minutes for these really good chances. and But you had a couple of substitutions. I think it was, was it Kearney for Pereira, I think, and also
00:16:15
Speaker
I think Muniz came on for Jimenez and obviously we know what Muniz did in the game. and But what do you think was the turning point, maybe even just in terms of confidence or just what switched it for Fulham in terms of making them think they could go on and win this? Yeah, I'm not sure I can pinpoint one exact moment, but I think staying in the game was crucial and Ben Leno made some big saves. Didn't need to keep it a 1-0.
00:16:35
Speaker
And whilst it's a 1-0 in the Premier League, no matter what a position you're playing, there's always going to be that anxiety, that nervousness in the ground if you don't kill a game off, especially being a London Derby, local Derby as well. And Fulham, they've always been good for a goal this season. it was ah you know The game against Southampton before this was the first time they've failed to score in a game since the opening day. um So they go into every game with as a goal threat, posing a threat.
00:16:58
Speaker
And if if you can keep it at one nil, then they do have options off the bench so that can come on and make a difference. And I think there's a stat that Fulham have actually scored the most goals, from had substitutes that have scored the most goals this season, which you wouldn't expect really, you would expect that stat to come from ah a Liverpool or ah or a Man City maybe, and obviously Man City having their problems at the minute, but one of those one of those clubs that have the biggest squads.
00:17:20
Speaker
um So yeah, going into the last 10 games, Fulham, their confidence did grow. And I think Marco Silva said in his post-match press conference, what they did well is they were, Chelsea weren't able to press as high in the second half. That's one thing they were able to do better than they weren't quite equipped to do in the first half. And, you know, it's it's important, isn't it? As I said, there's a mention there to have players off the bench that have got an eye for goal, because you've got, you've got players off the bench that are almost better than when they start, which is is is a strange, strange dichotomy, really, because Moniz started the game against Southampton and he was awful, to be honest, and people were writing him off. But he comes off the bench, ah obviously pops up with the golden 95th minute. um Yeah, he just comes down to what I said, staying in the game and you've always got a chance.
00:18:08
Speaker
Yeah, I completely agree with you there. And I think that that's probably the issue from the Chelsea side is is we allowed you to to stay in the game for so long, which I mean, it not completely our fault. We were taking the job. We were trying to create as many chances as possible. It was just Leno turned into Superman. and it It was definitely it was such an interesting
Chelsea's Growing Anxiety
00:18:26
Speaker
point. I think just I think you could also start to feel the anxiety in the fans as well as Stanford Bridge. I think the fact it was a home game, so I think also massively changed it for Chelsea because we had come back home from this sort of Everton draw and we had had such massive momentum. And I think probably the issue for Chelsea fans at the moment is we don't really know where we should be. Should we be thinking what we're challenging for the title? Should we be sort of acting as if we're second or third place or
00:18:51
Speaker
should we be just happy to be here because top four is what we want or it's a very weird scenario at the moment and I think the anxiety of the Chelsea fans as well also gave Fulham a bit of just that little extra bit of confidence which might have just drove him on.
00:19:05
Speaker
um Guys, we will take another quick break and then of course we will discuss Fulham's almighty comeback with those two goals and then we'll discuss a little bit of but a friendly between between local rivals how we expect our season to go over the next couple of games as well. ah We'll be back very, very shortly. This podcast is part of the Global Sports Podcast Network, the only network bringing you exclusive daily news and views on your Premier League team, the Premier League, women's football and fantasy football.
00:19:36
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00:19:55
Speaker
And we are back on the crossover between Daily Chelsea and Daily Fulham. It is myself, Gavin and Yashar with me. um And now, Gavin, this is this is the time you can rub it in, do what you want. ah ah Chelsea, obviously we get to you know this sort of game state of about 80 minutes and Chelsea are we you know if We're still leading, you know we're nervous, but
Harry Wilson's Goal Boosts Fulham
00:20:19
Speaker
we're still leading. And then Harry Wilson comes in and finds that equalizer. and What did you make of the goal? do you Did you see that goal as more of Fulham really pushing on and then getting that final bit of quality to get the goal? Or do you think it was a lapse in sort of Chelsea's defense and concentration?
00:20:35
Speaker
It's probably always going to be a bit of both, isn't it? But I think we've got to pay tribute to the work again that Alex Alobi does for the goal. And Anthony Robinson put a lot of crosses into the box for the game. A lot of them over hit or not quite on the money. This was on the money because Stania's rising high.
00:20:50
Speaker
And Harry Wilson, he's alive. As I said, he's a player that comes off the bench and he sniffs the goal out. And being Welsh myself, i mean ah watching him for Wales, a lot of ah the surprise comes from Wales fans is how he doesn't start for full and week in, week out. And just had an injury to Rhys Nelson in the last few weeks. So he has seen... he has had a bit more game time but um yeah and that just gives Fulham the impetus then and and then for a lot of clubs you would take a draw at Stamford Bridge and just sit on that and then just put 10 men behind the ball for the last 10 minutes um but Marco Silva was insistent that he wanted to get players in the box and I think just on the winning goal I think
00:21:27
Speaker
ah part of that that's probably got got missed is Castaneda's role because it's a poor kit from Robert Sanchez and then Castaneda intercepts, Wilson plays the ball and Castaneda follows his interception, he runs into the box and if he doesn't make that run I don't think Fulham score that So there's your right wing back in the 95th minute of Stamford Bridge in the box trying to get a winner and um Yeah, you know as a fan watching your club that that's what you want to see isn't it and maybe for Chelsea I Guess three points is what they were after three points is what a lot of people would have expected I know you guys said you had different views heading into the game, but um You know if you can't win the game then maybe Set set for a point they had the two players maybe maybe too far up and just just switched off for for a second there and Ultimately, that's costing the game, isn't it?
00:22:20
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. It's quite sad from a sort of Chelsea point of view but I think i think most Chelsea fans are maybe expecting something like this coming. I think, you know, it's... It's just hard against the local rival at home after the festive period. Yes, I'll come to you in a second just on on Chelsea fans' thoughts on the capitulation just there.
Alex Iwobi's Versatility
00:22:43
Speaker
But Gavin, I wanted to ask a quick question on Alex Awobi because it's is someone you know who just just looking from stats in terms of the amount of shots on targets he has, the amount of passes he has in the game, tackles, everything, he he seems to be sort of a bit everywhere for you.
00:22:57
Speaker
and how much how How big of an impact has it been for Fulham this season? Because he seems to just be getting better and better and better. Yeah, he's been a massive, massive player for them, along with Anthony Robertson. He has been the player of the season and he is a manager's dream. Marco Silva knows him extremely well because they they work together at Everton. And he's 28 years old now and he played a lot of games for Arsenal, let's not forget, over 100 Premier League games, well over 100 Premier League games for Everton. And the jury was out. His stats were, you know, bit hit and miss. you look at But you look since he's come to full and his goals per game ratio was a lot better than it was at both of those clubs. and
00:23:33
Speaker
He's very versatile as well. That's what you say about a manager's dream. He can play on the left. He can play on the right. He can play in a deeper position in midfield. He can play behind the striker. He can drop into the back five if needed. And at the minute, he's one of the first names on the team sheet. And has it been a surprise? I think we've always known his his talent, but as I think you said, the consistent level, um that's what surprised people, the fact that he's doing it game in, game out now.
00:24:01
Speaker
Yeah, i've ah that's and that's a surprise for me, I think. is it's he was Even though he did he looked a good player at Arsenal whenever it seemed he was sort of inconsistent, I think at at the least it it was it was inconsistency. And I think Marco Silva, it seems, has found his position or at least found the way to talk to him and motivate him and get him to you know get do what he needs because he is an absolute... Not only has he got sort of good technical ability. It's also just a bit of a powerhouse around the pitch. like There was a couple quite a few times each of the couple of stronger Chelsea players off the ball. like He took it off gusto a couple of times as well as someone who I'd say most Chelsea fans trust with the ball dribble down the pitch and not lose it. and
00:24:38
Speaker
You're sure this was, you know, I'll i'll give my a little bit of pain in a second, but how was this
Chelsea's Defensive Lapses
00:24:46
Speaker
as a Chelsea fan? I mean, how did you feel on that sort of 80 second minute goal? And then how did you feel after we conceded in the 95th minute of this game, one minute from full time? I think with the Harry Wilsons goal, I think like the perfect example of chelsea's game was when netto fell on the floor crying his eyes out because of a world view was running straight in a straight line and he just ran into a world view i think that that just that little two second clip just showed the fight chelsea out which was none i felt that's pathetic by netto with someone who is
00:25:20
Speaker
i I understand with a yellow card, he couldn't do much because like he would have got a second yellow off. However, I think not even doing that, just trying to slow him down. You didn't have to commit yourself. Just slow him down. And so like I think what the world he was, um his his criticism at Arsenal was his end product. And I think with this just showed that his his experience in the Premier League really showed there, which is strength running the line. And he wasn't going to let anyone go through him. but like I felt with that Neto challenge that that him on the floor and him again like even the aftermath him just lying down there he's like they're not gonna disallow that goal they weren't gonna disallow that goal just get up and you didn't know what I tried it just get up and get on with which he didn't and I felt that was the turning point where I think Enzo should have done something there and I said earlier I said the reason we lost this game is there's a bold statement and
00:26:18
Speaker
like it was due to Enzo Mareska and I think that game showed his I think managerial inexperience which was because he had a cohort of players who of ah like offensively and defensively, which he didn't use to his ability. He used one sub, which in Kunku, which I felt was only because to keep him in the, like keep him in the club. That sub, that sub, that substitution wasn't a direct trying to impact the game. Yes. Cause I thought in Kunku and Nicholas Jackson are very similar strikers. They're tall. They're not very strong. but So like they're very, a nine, but also a 10 type player. And I felt,
00:27:01
Speaker
by And I felt bringing on someone like Gui ah with someone who's, again, it's not about like looking at him for goals, it's about looking at him to hold the ball and expanding the play which again in kunku did in kunku was a ghost like like miles i had 10 players on the pitch i didn't even see him touch the ball once and i felt it was it was a capitulation which i felt was coming and from a chelsea standpoint i wasn't very disappointed as i was boxing down and like i don't let like let everyone in my boxing there however it was a
00:27:34
Speaker
it was a shock to my system seeing the lack of fight that Chelsea had and especially seeing this league so far were second and we're most likely you're going to win the conference. league I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to jinx it. However, yeah we are probably 10 times the richest club and the players are coming out of it is how good they are. So I think, but going from that Arsenal win tonight, time recording this Arsenal playing Ipsage and if Arsenal win tonight, they're going to go above Arsenal and we go third.
00:28:02
Speaker
but I felt from a Chelsea fan standpoint is we lacked fight and we lacked ambition from the players and also the manager. So that would be my tears wiping on why we lost and why we lack so much empathy on the game.
00:28:22
Speaker
Yeah, i there's not there's not too much I can disagree with you there on your side. It was, it just, that I think for me, I think, what as this might sound really dramatic to be honest, but when that second goal went in, it was sort of like, if if we had taken the draw from the Everton game away and the draw from this game after how many chances was saved by Leno, and it was like, it felt a bit unlucky. I would be like, yeah, maybe we are still sort of the team some people are thinking we are.
00:28:52
Speaker
But that second goal going in for Fulham just felt a bit like, also because of the points it was taking from us, it just felt a bit like, yeah, this is the summary of we're not there yet. I agree.
Fulham's Second Goal and Chelsea's Struggles
00:29:04
Speaker
I completely agree. And like, and it just it just it just showed lack of experience and lack of actually so like common knowledge. Like you see Kukarela bombing up the field, which left the whole left side open and like
00:29:18
Speaker
I can't completely understand, like you want to win the game, I understand that. But when you're in that situation, you yeah have 45 seconds left, Fulham are like thinking, right, let's go win it here. Chelsea should have said a proper, secure team. You know what? Kukula should not be bombing up the field. I don't know if that said like instruction from the manager. I don't know if that was his own instinct. However, that was showed lack of common knowledge, lack of any knowledge at point. Kukula bombing up the field. Sancho was nowhere to be seen last second half.
00:29:48
Speaker
like he was nowhere to be seen anyway. But yeah, I think Kukriela leaving that left side open for that two players to run through. And it's so inexperienced because like, I think every player sensed, like every Chelsea player sensed, we were getting overrun. Let's just keep it secure. Let's get a point. And Kukriela didn't, and he just ran up the field and he lost like all to do is so like Sanchez's kicks and then let's go, unfortunately.
00:30:12
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. It's it' is's so tough, so tough to take. and But guys, we are sort of nearing the end of the podcast. um There's been a fair bit of Chelsea Payne, fair bit of Fulham Blee. I thought one very quick question that we could do both. Yeah, we could all do as a quick fire before we go.
00:30:27
Speaker
um Chelsea did not meet Fulham again until the 19th of April, quite close to the end of the season.
League Standings Speculation
00:30:32
Speaker
and Gavin, if you were to predict when that next picture comes around, when Chelsea play Fulham at Craven Cottage, where do you think Fulham will be and where do you think Chelsea will be in the league?
00:30:43
Speaker
who and I don't get all this talk about Chelsea where they're trying to play things down as about being titled challenges because they're trying to play the underdog role. When you spend over a billion quid in the last three or four years, it doesn't really add up, does it? And look, so they're ahead of expectations. No one would have expected them to be second um at this stage of the season. We'll see what they can do for the second half of the season. I'm sure the top four is still the aim and they do have a very good chance in Europe to win that competition.
00:31:12
Speaker
as well for Fulham. Fulham again ah are ahead ahead of schedule, it's very congested in that sort of middle part of the league and then we've seen this season that the likes of Notton Forest, Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, Fulham, they're all capable on the day of taking points off the the more established, though the the top six so to speak. um so it's It's hard to say, I'd like to think Fulham can finish in the top half of the season and they've got a great chance now 28 points after 18 games to get the highest points all in the Premier League which is 53.
00:31:42
Speaker
um So there's every chance they can do that. So it's it's April, did you say? That fixture is. 19 April, yeah. I'm going to say Chelsea will be third and I'm going to say Fulham eighth.
00:31:54
Speaker
fair enough. that's That's near enough. So it's a mine was we'll got you show youha in a second but mine was Chelsea 4th and Fulham 7th, I was going to say. i think ah To be honest, he really impressed me
Episode Conclusion and Reflections
00:32:05
Speaker
in that game. I think it may depend a little bit on January transfer window, possibly, depending on the size of squad. But yeah, I think you'll you'll be doing well this season. Yashar, quickly, where do you think Chelsea and Fulham will be on the 19th of April when we meet again?
00:32:17
Speaker
It'd be a quick one, Chelsea would be third, Fulham would be ninth. I think Fulham will fall off and I think Forest don't have it capable of sustaining a third place. So I think Chelsea third, Fulham ninth.
00:32:29
Speaker
Nice, fair enough. Okay. and Well, guys, it's been a fantastic crossover episode, a bit different from the usual, where we, obviously, we usually do our crossover Thursdays. But make sure both of you, obviously, guys, if you subscribe to Daily Chelsea and Daily Fulham, we are here every single weekday um with a podcast to fill your boots. and We have been joined by the Daily Fulham team, and that was Gavin today. Gavin, thank you so much for joining us, mate. Fantastic.
00:32:55
Speaker
And Yashar as well, making a fantastic day of your podcast and welcome to the Daily Chelsea team, mate. Thank you. I'm looking forward to speaking for you all soon. Thank you very much. And of course, guys, make sure you tune into GSPN, whatever club you follow, we'll have a podcast for you. We'll see you soon. Every club, every day. The Global Sports Podcast Network. work