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Speaker: I mean, it was, to me, it's so wild because it's like two weeks is a while to be there.
Speaker: But it also just went by really fast.
Speaker: And I'm kind of, I like already almost forget that it happened.
Speaker: So I can only imagine you with, because you were total traveling for four weeks, five weeks.
Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Because I honestly forgot about that trip to Taipei that I took literally right before this.
Speaker: And so let me see.
Speaker: One, two, three, four.
Speaker: Four.
Speaker: Like, okay, no, five.
Speaker: Actually, exactly five.
Speaker: I'm like, oh.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's a long time.
Speaker: I'm like, no wonder I'm tired.
Speaker: No wonder I feel the age catching up to me.
Speaker: I'm like, I don't know if I'm cut out for this anymore.
Speaker: Did you – well, first of all, did you also have multiple time zones?
Speaker: I mean, you must have had at least a couple, but did you have more than that?
Speaker: No, I think, well, Taiwan was the same time zone as the Philippines, so it was okay.
Speaker: And then the only other place we went to outside of France was Morocco, and their time difference was just an hour.
Speaker: So honestly, it was okay.
Speaker: But this jet lag is, it's hitting.
Speaker: I'm usually, I think I'm pretty okay, but I think I was just so exhausted for this trip that I'm like, oh, this is what people mean.
Speaker: Like yesterday, I woke up at 4 a.m.
Speaker: and could not get back to sleep.
Speaker: And I was like, you will pay for this.
Speaker: later.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And here I am.
Speaker: It's so East Coast.
Speaker: So there were three hours difference.
Speaker: And it was, I don't know, like I never do, I feel like when people travel, they're like, oh, well that would mean it's this time, my time.
Speaker: And I can't do that because I just have to like live in the present and be like, okay, this is my new time.
Speaker: I just can't do that.
Speaker: But that was so hard to do there because we were staying up until like 10 or 11 or we were literally.
Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker: We were still out at like 8 or 9, and that was just like such a big deal for us.
Speaker: I was like, I can't believe – For sure.
Speaker: We were still out at this hour.
Speaker: And then I would wake up – it was kind of weird.
Speaker: I would still wake up somewhat early, like 6 a.m.
Speaker: East Coast time.
Speaker: But –
Speaker: Then working was weird because I'd be working before so many people got up even because a lot of us are MST or PST.
Speaker: And then not only that, but even if even those of us who are EST, I'm starting work at like 6am.
Speaker: So I just felt so out of the loop too.
Speaker: I was like, I'm an MST, PST girly.
Speaker: Like I just, I can feel it.
Speaker: I am.
Speaker: You're like not meant to be on that time zone.
Speaker: I don't think that I am.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But then coming home, you know, we got – it was like we were just right back in our rhythm because we – the first day that we got back, I went to bed.
Speaker: I was asleep by 6.30 p.m., like 100% asleep.
Speaker: And I think I slept for almost 11 hours.
Speaker: I was so tired.
Speaker: That's so delicious, though.
Speaker: That's amazing.
Speaker: That's like, that's how you get back on track immediately.
Speaker: So did you feel that your schedule adjusted like when you were on that side of the country?
Speaker: Did you have your morning walks?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: So you just kind of stuck to your thing.
Speaker: Yeah, I did.
Speaker: I still definitely did my morning walks.
Speaker: I actually, I feel like I ended up walking even more out there just because the temperature was cooler and they had so many beautiful parks and trails and things.
Speaker: I was like, I just want to walk everywhere.
Speaker: So we did a lot of walking there.
Speaker: You know, like I definitely still did quite a few of my routine things.
Speaker: Like,
Speaker: Made my same smoothie or, you know, did my walks, worked out, read my pages.
Speaker: Like I definitely had that routine there, but I just couldn't get on the time.
Speaker: And the other thing, too, is it's still so light out.
Speaker: Like at 830, we still had some light.
Speaker: So it was that also threw me for a loop.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: yeah no honestly it felt the same in europe we were like we would be like dragging our feet trying to go to dinner but the light would still be out until nine and so it's the first time i've traveled where we get back at 10 10 30 and i'm exhausted you know me i'm kind of a night i don't know if i'm still a night owl but on this trip by 10 10 30 i'm so tired i can't even like doom scroll anymore
Speaker: I know that's when you know you're really tired.
Speaker: Well, guys, I mean, we're seven minutes in, but we're back.
Speaker: We're back here together.
Speaker: Not in the flesh, but like the closest thing that we have ever had to each other, which is Zencaster.
Speaker: Thanks, Zencaster.
Speaker: Just promoting it right here.
Speaker: It's literally, I've missed you so much.
Speaker: I, there's like, I've wanted to hear, I, first of all, I think you did such a great job on your Instagram of just like giving us bits and pieces.
Speaker: Cause I felt like I was going to follow along.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I, I saw it.
Speaker: I, and your, your recap reel, like the, the one that you just bit, Oh, it's just like these little pure moments of, you know, the,
Speaker: Things that I can forget to capture while I'm traveling.
Speaker: And I'm so glad when I do because I'm like, I caught the essence of this.
Speaker: It's not like I captured all these moments.
Speaker: It's like I caught the vibe of it.
Speaker: The vibe.
Speaker: It's a gift.
Speaker: It is.
Speaker: I'm so excited to talk about it with you.
Speaker: But I'm like, it's so interesting too to think about how –
Speaker: I've changed as a traveler too because I'm an internet kid.
Speaker: Like I've always been, I'm a kid from the blog era.
Speaker: So I've always like loved capturing and photographing and creating content for Instagram.
Speaker: And I'm honestly really proud.
Speaker: I feel like I've never been that person who's like only taking photos like at the restaurant or that I'm not present.
Speaker: But I think when I was younger, I was a lot younger.
Speaker: quote unquote better at it where I would be like oh my gosh I'm creating the content and I'm posting in real life and I'm editing and I'm writing the captions and this trip literally I could not all I could do was capture when I felt like capturing and it felt the most natural to me and I loved it and so like this is the first real I've posted after four weeks of traveling and I have so much backlog of content but it's the most representative of my experience where I'm like just little snippets of things that made me
Speaker: That's so precious because I've had people do that on trips that I'm on with them.
Speaker: And I'm like, thank you so much because now I have something that I can reference.
Speaker: I did a really good job of this when I went to Washington with my friend Dustin.
Speaker: And I think at the beginning I was annoying him because I just kept taking videos of like us grocery shopping or like us renting the food or whatever.
Speaker: And then if you watch the video, I'll provide it in the link.
Speaker: Please do.
Speaker: But it's like so cute.
Speaker: And it's just this little YouTube video and it's us just exploring.
Speaker: And I love watching it because I'm like, oh, yeah, that's how that trip felt.
Speaker: And I really would like to get better about it.
Speaker: I didn't really do a good job in North Carolina.
Speaker: like the best job.
Speaker: And I think, I don't know, for me, I did capture quite a few things where I was like, oh my gosh, this is good.
Speaker: This is very North Carolina to me.
Speaker: This is the epitome of our trip.
Speaker: And I think I did do that pretty well.
Speaker: But I also just am not as interested.
Speaker: I just don't think about it like I used to when I was younger.
Speaker: I wasn't like, oh, I need to capture this.
Speaker: I need to.
Speaker: And I think when I was younger, there was a lot of
Speaker: me wanting to prove like how cool of a trip it is or how much fun I'm having or how cool I am or, you know, whatever.
Speaker: And now I'm just like, I just don't care.
Speaker: I know that I am like, and I don't think other people really care either.
Speaker: I'm not trying to like devalue my family and friends wanting to be a part of my life or anything like that.
Speaker: But I'm just like, I'll, I want to be in the moment.
Speaker: I want to be in the moment.
Speaker: But like you, but when you do capture those things, it's,
Speaker: It's so nice to come back to because I can forget.
Speaker: I can be like, oh, that's right.
Speaker: We always went to that park in North Carolina.
Speaker: We loved that.
Speaker: But I totally forgot about that.
Speaker: So I just think it really has its place in my life is capturing those little moments.
Speaker: It does.
Speaker: It's a fine line though because I feel exactly what you feel where I'm just kind of like – we say like I'm not good at it anymore.
Speaker: But I mean, I love being in the moment.
Speaker: I know it's kind of like confusing.
Speaker: I had a friend comment.
Speaker: She's like, how do you cap?
Speaker: Because the audio I chose for the reel is like capture everything.
Speaker: And then I put a little caption about like living in the moment.
Speaker: She's like, how do you do both?
Speaker: And I mean, it's I get it.
Speaker: I feel like those two things are contradictory.
Speaker: But yeah.
Speaker: I've also been guilty of what you said where it's like I'll be living in the moment and I always am delusional enough to be like, you will remember this exact moment.
Speaker: You will write it down later on.
Speaker: You will remember.
Speaker: And photos and videos make that so much easier.
Speaker: I remember like looking back and I'll be like, wow, you really in that moment thought that you could like capture that.
Speaker: And I mean, that's just memories in general, right?
Speaker: It's like sand, sand.
Speaker: falling through your fingertips.
Speaker: But I'm always like, oh, I'll remember.
Speaker: I'll remember exactly how it felt.
Speaker: I'll remember the colors.
Speaker: I'll remember the moment.
Speaker: And it's like, no, you can never remember as well as you think you are.
Speaker: And that's the beauty of photos and video.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: Documenting it.
Speaker: I still have my travel journal when I did six weeks in Europe when I was 21.
Speaker: And there's just one page dedicated to it.
Speaker: And I know why.
Speaker: And it says, never, ever forget how delicious the peaches are in Italy.
Speaker: And I remember that.
Speaker: I remember it being like a holy experience.
Speaker: I had never tasted a peach like that before.
Speaker: I don't think I have since.
Speaker: And that was something – I think it was Anthony Bourdain who was talking about how because we have access to everything year-round, we don't have access to the best stuff.
Speaker: So like we can get strawberries typically year-round.
Speaker: And he's like, that's not when they grow.
Speaker: Like they have a specific growing season.
Speaker: So we're getting like –
Speaker: mundane strawberries all throughout the year instead of really, really delicious ones at one particular time.
Speaker: And that's how it felt with this peach.
Speaker: And especially just in Europe and Italy as a whole, I think they really do only –
Speaker: uh what is it when you not crop when you gather like harvest yeah yeah thank you they they only harvest what is actually naturally present so yeah when i i was eating these peaches i was like oh my like is this what a peach can taste like yeah it's just one page that's dedicated like never forget how delicious the peaches are in italy yeah oh
Speaker: That's a really good idea.
Speaker: I wish I had more.
Speaker: Like, again, we probably could if I set aside the time, but like a travel journal sounds like such a beautiful way to document your journey.
Speaker: And also, that was when I was 21.
Speaker: So that was
Speaker: about almost 15 years ago and we didn't have social media oh yeah that's true like that yeah or we did have iPhones what am I saying I'm not that old but yeah they weren't they weren't they weren't what they are now I remember gosh I think yeah I was 18 I was 18 when I got an iPhone and I think I was also a little behind is it the three is it the iPhone 3G yeah
Speaker: Oh, gosh.
Speaker: I don't remember what my first one was.
Speaker: But I do remember – I think if you scroll all the way to my Instagram, I still definitely have my first few photos.
Speaker: And it's like the epitome.
Speaker: It's just the classic OG filters on there.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I remember being so confused about what it was, and I would just take pictures of stuff that did not need to be documented.
Speaker: I think that was all of us.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I think there's a picture of some Starbucks chairs like stacked on top of one another because I was working at Starbucks and I was like, I'm going to put it on my Instagram.
Speaker: Art, baby.
Speaker: Art.
Speaker: Art.
Speaker: Oh my gosh.
Speaker: Like when is the gallery opening?
Speaker: Literally.
Speaker: Literally.
Speaker: Yeah, we just didn't have as much technology back then to also document in that way.
Speaker: So yeah, I took the travel journal and I got like a really cool looking one because it made me want to write in it even more.
Speaker: Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker: Oh my God, crazy.
Speaker: 15 years to think how you've evolved as a person.
Speaker: That was another thing because the first friend I was traveling with, she's 35, 34.
Speaker: So we also have a bit of an age gap, but we met when I was like 16.
Speaker: So yeah.
Speaker: 10 years ago.
Speaker: And it's just crazy to think that we knew like a different version of each other.
Speaker: And now we're like coming together to travel as like these versions of ourselves.
Speaker: And it was just such a like healing, but exciting and like reflective time together because now she's a mom.
Speaker: And I'm definitely not a mom, but I need mothering all the time.
Speaker: So it was beautiful.
Speaker: It works out really well.
Speaker: Yay.
Speaker: Yay.
Speaker: But it's just really cool to see like through the lens both of other people and just kind of like, oh my God, we would like we would find ourselves saying so often that 10 years ago us would never like we would never in some ways we're more like assertive and more audacious.
Speaker: But also at that time in our life, we were just kind of like, wow, you just kind of do things a little fearlessly and not necessarily just out of being brave, but maybe just because you don't know any better.
Speaker: A little ignorance.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And we're like, wow.
Speaker: Now as fully fledged adults and women, you think things through in a different way.
Speaker: I'd like to think that we're still audacious, but just in a different way.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I like I, gosh, I remember when my friend and I were in, we were in Milan, I believe.
Speaker: We were taking a train in Italy and I can't remember quite from where to where it doesn't really matter.
Speaker: But they were having a heat wave.
Speaker: Europe was having a heat wave.
Speaker: And for us coming from the desert, we were like, we're all good.
Speaker: Just like drink water.
Speaker: Basically, we were just like, hydrate.
Speaker: Yeah, but they had a lot of people pass away from heat strokes and stuff because they just were not used to it and they're also not equipped for it because they don't have AC.
Speaker: So we went on this train and I do remember that.
Speaker: I remember her being very hot quite a lot.
Speaker: But we were on this train that did have AC.
Speaker: But then it broke.
Speaker: And so there was water just everywhere.
Speaker: So we took our bags and our feet and we put them up on the chair because there were just like pools of water.
Speaker: And this guy came by and he was just yelling at us in Italian.
Speaker: And I was like, we do not know what you want from us.
Speaker: And then he just kept saying like, eight a euro, eight a euro.
Speaker: And we were like...
Speaker: I don't – do we – what do we – do we pay you?
Speaker: What is happening?
Speaker: And these freaking snitches on the train were like, I saw you.
Speaker: You did have your feet up.
Speaker: And we're like, we're not saying we didn't have our feet up.
Speaker: Yeah, we had our feet up because of the water.
Speaker: And they're like, yeah, we saw you.
Speaker: We know you had your feet up.
Speaker: And we're like, we're not disagreeing.
Speaker: We're not saying.
Speaker: We're not lying.
Speaker: We don't say we did have your feet up.
Speaker: We're aligned.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I'm like, we are on the same page.
Speaker: You're in agreement.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I was like, can you help?
Speaker: Like, what is going on?
Speaker: And they're like, you need to pay for like, you're getting a fine for having your feet up on the seat.
Speaker: And I was just like, ah, okay.
Speaker: Well, if you didn't have the water everywhere and there was like more seats, we wouldn't have done this.
Speaker: So anyway, it was just like kind of what you're talking about.
Speaker: We got like thrown in trail jail because I said no.
Speaker: Oh my gosh.
Speaker: I was like, I'm not paying that.
Speaker: I know like right now present day me I'm like okay I would pay it I'd be pissed but I'd pay it yeah I'd be like the injustice yeah I'd be like this is irritating well no nowadays we would have Google Translate on our phone and we would be like do you see the water and
Speaker: And the other thing too is now I'm like, listen, it's just different culture.
Speaker: So like I got to respect that, like where I am.
Speaker: I need to respect that.
Speaker: And that was the other thing that like younger me didn't have.
Speaker: I was just like, excuse you, like you're in the wrong.
Speaker: And it was like, girl, you're in someone else's country.
Speaker: Like take a look around.
Speaker: So yeah, just a little bit of humble, a little bit of – but like nowadays I would just know that.
Speaker: I'd be like I'm in another country.
Speaker: I broke a rule.
Speaker: Just do –
Speaker: pay the thing don't get your ego involved is basically what i would do but yeah younger me was like i will die on this hill you will not take the eight euros from me because i don't understand why it is eight euro for me no i bet like younger me i'd be like i need the eight euros that's like a drink i did we really did though like we were bootstrapping it so yeah i was like exactly this is like two meals for me sir i need you to back away
Speaker: I need you to respect the fact that there was water on the ground.
Speaker: Please.
Speaker: And what was funny, too, is when we told the people that we were – so I went to go visit my brother, too, who lives in Germany.
Speaker: So when I was telling him and his now wife, at the time she was like, well, yeah, you can't have – she's from Germany.
Speaker: And so she was like, yeah, you can't have your feet up.
Speaker: And I was like, yeah, but, like, there was water.
Speaker: And she was like, that doesn't matter.
Speaker: You can't have your feet up.
Speaker: And it's just so funny how it was like – It's just such a cultural mismatch, right?
Speaker: Like, I –
Speaker: Even on this trip, I was reflecting on that where I'm like, it's just, it's, it's, and it's not, I don't want to say it's an American thing because I also traveled with another friend of mine who's from the Philippines, but we just kind of have like different backgrounds where I'm like, you know, like, what do I gain by questioning certain rules in this country that I'm not from?
Speaker: You know what I mean?
Speaker: Like, it might be a little annoying to like walk through the path that's assigned, but like, what do I gain by questioning that?
Speaker: And I realized like for Europeans, for the most part, they are quite disciplined.
Speaker: and I'm like yeah they just they just do the thing and I'm like when I travel with people that kind of like want to question it or want to like cut corners I'm like that's just that's just not me call me a goody two-shoes but I'm like there's a time and a place to do things like that but honestly I'd rather that's why I say like now I'm like I'd probably just pay the eight euros I'm like I broke a rule I'm sorry I didn't know it's annoying because technically you inconvenienced me but
Speaker: You're right.
Speaker: It's a rule, so I'll pay it.
Speaker: I'm so right there with you.
Speaker: I'm just like, I just, I, it's more so for me, it's just like about the respect factor where it's like, I'm a visitor here.
Speaker: Like just be respectful.
Speaker: And, you know, I might, I don't have to like agree with it, but that doesn't mean that I need to like, you know, fight it.
Speaker: There was another time when we were in Germany visiting my brother and he like held the door open to the train so that the rest of the family could get on.
Speaker: And his wife was so embarrassed.
Speaker: Mortified.
Speaker: She was mortified.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And like I can absolutely see why she was.
Speaker: I'm not saying that it was unjustified.
Speaker: But she was just like totally mortified.
Speaker: And so he – the train, the guy who was running the train stopped the train.
Speaker: got out, scolded my brother in front of everyone.
Speaker: And my brother was just like – all my brother kept saying was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: You're right.
Speaker: So I was like, I don't know what's happening.
Speaker: And my sister-in-law is just like, oh, my God.
Speaker: And so I'm just like, sir, you better back off.
Speaker: That's my brother.
Speaker: I'm feeling it, but it's like we clearly did something wrong.
Speaker: But anyway, what was happening is the conductor was like,
Speaker: Yeah, he was reprimanding him and scolding him.
Speaker: Like, you just held this door and you delayed all these people.
Speaker: And my brother was like, you're delaying them more by doing this.
Speaker: And he was like, yeah, but this needs to happen because you need to learn this lesson.
Speaker: And like, it was, oh man, like I just remember being like, I can feel every part of my body right now.
Speaker: Like, I'm so hyper...
Speaker: Yes, I'm so hyper aware that like, oh, yeah.
Speaker: Now we're this large group of people that's getting reprimanded because we were like trying to hold a train.
Speaker: But also, it's not your brother's fault that you have probably a large group of people.
Speaker: Like, I get it.
Speaker: It's like it came from a good place because, you know, we have like the baby in the stroller and we have my parents who are a little bit older and
Speaker: Like, yeah, I and you want to talk about like sticking out.
Speaker: We were you could take one look at us and be like, American.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: I felt that.
Speaker: I feel like now I I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker: But sometimes when people ask me, I'm like, no, I'm it happened several times.
Speaker: Actually, when people were like, where are you from?
Speaker: I'm like, I'm from the Philippines because that's where I'm coming from.
Speaker: And without fail, the conversation, I kid you not, every day at least once, they're like, you're from the Philippines?
Speaker: Why do you sound that way?
Speaker: I'm like, I mean, yeah, I kind of lied a little bit.
Speaker: Like, I was born in the States and, like, I did live in L.A.
Speaker: for, like, five years.
Speaker: But I am from the Philippines.
Speaker: It just felt safer saying that because I didn't want you to be like, oh, she's an American.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: And I feel so bad because like, here's the thing.
Speaker: I always oscillate between this feeling of like, I don't want to feel ashamed of the country that I'm from.
Speaker: Yeah, of course.
Speaker: But then there are things that I'm also like, that's embarrassing.
Speaker: That's shameful.
Speaker: Like there's, you know, so, so I'm just like, uh, I don't, I don't want to say that I'm not American.
Speaker: But when at that age, when I was 21, I did not care at all.
Speaker: I was like, no, I'm not.
Speaker: I was just like, we're Canadian.
Speaker: We're Canadian.
Speaker: We're Canadian.
Speaker: And I'm like,
Speaker: It went much better.
Speaker: Oh my gosh.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's so funny because I learned that honestly the first time I traveled to Europe when I was like 22 and I'm like, oh, it just feels a little easier when I'm like, I'm from the Philippines.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I love you, but there's a lot of things.
Speaker: It's like such a weird thing.
Speaker: Sometimes I feel guilty for feeling like
Speaker: proud of where I am.
Speaker: There's a real, it's a very complex thing that I have going on.
Speaker: But I would nowadays, I would say I'm American and I'd say a little bit with my chest and a little bit not with my chest.
Speaker: Well, I have to tell you because I want to know what you would feel in the situation.
Speaker: But this was like a prime example of why I'm like, sometimes you really be this way.
Speaker: My friend and I had brunch in this cafe in Paris.
Speaker: So we walk in and there is this like
Speaker: This white American man facing us and he was sitting alone and he like already like kind of like sized us up and down when we walked in and we were seated at a table in front of him and I already felt like I didn't like whatever vibe this man was bringing right and he stands up and there's like a young waitress like I'm talking she looks like young like a kid.
Speaker: But really cute.
Speaker: I don't know what was happening.
Speaker: We had just walked in, right?
Speaker: And the guy gets up.
Speaker: And you can hear him because one thing we're very good at as Americans is projecting our voices.
Speaker: You'll know.
Speaker: I mean, listen, as a radio person, but...
Speaker: So he walks over to the owner because the owner was like also there helping.
Speaker: It was the owner and two like waitresses slash baristas who were making coffee.
Speaker: And you hear him and the first like the owner is sitting at the table on his laptop and the guy walks up to him and he's like, oh, is that her first day?
Speaker: Like, is that my waitress's, like, first day on the job?
Speaker: So immediately I was already on the defensive.
Speaker: I was like, oh.
Speaker: At first I was kind of like, oh, maybe he had a bad experience.
Speaker: Is he about to complain?
Speaker: And the owner was like, yeah, yeah, it's her first day.
Speaker: And the man, the customer, was like, oh, I could tell.
Speaker: And I was like, ooh, is this going to be an altercation?
Speaker: What's happening?
Speaker: And then he asked him, how old is she?
Speaker: And the owner, you could tell, was kind of confused by the question.
Speaker: He was like, oh, like –
Speaker: I don't know, I think like maybe 20 or 21.
Speaker: And then the guy says, oh, no, I think she's like 16.
Speaker: And immediately I was like, oh, this is feeling so creepy.
Speaker: Like, what are you getting at right now?
Speaker: I like was making eye contact with the owner because I think he could see in my eyes and I could see in his eyes that were like, oh,
Speaker: This is such a weird interaction.
Speaker: Like, why are you, A, asking about the age, then being like, no, no, no, she must be so young.
Speaker: Like, I looked at, he was like, by the looks of her, she looks like she's 16.
Speaker: I was like, it's getting worse.
Speaker: Oh, oh, it's getting so worse.
Speaker: And so then the girl passes by and he like, he like sees her and stops her.
Speaker: And he's like, is this your first day?
Speaker: Come here, come here.
Speaker: I want to tell you something.
Speaker: I want to make your first day really memorable.
Speaker: I want you to remember this first day.
Speaker: He makes a show of taking out his wallet, takes out like a hundred dollar bill and gives it to her.
Speaker: And then she was in shock.
Speaker: She was in shock.
Speaker: And he says something like, yeah, I want you to remember this first day.
Speaker: And then he says something else and he like leaves.
Speaker: The poor girl breaks into tears.
Speaker: So I don't know what happened before that.
Speaker: I don't know if it was breaking into like the owner, her boss was so kind in that moment.
Speaker: I was more endeared to him because I was like, you know what?
Speaker: Men sometimes do come true, come through because she like breaks into tears and he like taps her on the shoulder.
Speaker: He's like, it's okay.
Speaker: It's okay to like feel the feelings.
Speaker: And I don't know if she was overwhelmed by like a large ass tip that the owner was like, no, this is your tip.
Speaker: Obviously you keep this.
Speaker: Or was there an altercation?
Speaker: But I was like, this man just went out of his way to make her feel so uncomfortable, given that she is quite young, and I didn't like it at all.
Speaker: And I was like, for what?
Speaker: There's a better way to do that.
Speaker: And I was just going to say, there's a better way to do that.
Speaker: And there were so many little things that really added up very quickly.
Speaker: And the other thing is I'm like, way to try and make yourself the hero of this.
Speaker: Like nobody needs – the whole like white savior thing, like that's not – we don't need that.
Speaker: And then also like I just – honestly, I mean I don't know.
Speaker: If I was that young, if I was 22 or however old she was, I think I would have just been like very confused.
Speaker: As a 35-year-old woman, depending on how he had treated me, I think I'd be like, I'm good, man.
Speaker: Like I don't want that –
Speaker: I don't want that.
Speaker: And like, it's just such a weird demanding thing of like, I'm going to make this memorable.
Speaker: It's like you did for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker: Like, I'm going to remember it.
Speaker: I'm honestly so glad that I wasn't there to see the interaction.
Speaker: Like what whatever happened before we got there, like her actually serving him.
Speaker: I'm like, oh, I don't know.
Speaker: People might come for me for this.
Speaker: But I'm like, that was so uncomfortable.
Speaker: And just interactions like that.
Speaker: Like sometimes I see that on my travels.
Speaker: And I'm like, please read the room and don't be this way.
Speaker: Do you know like how old he was around?
Speaker: He was like probably 40s, 50s.
Speaker: That sounds – I literally was like, I'm thinking 50 plus.
Speaker: Like it has to be.
Speaker: Yeah, probably 50.
Speaker: But I was like also not for anything else.
Speaker: Like we're all allowed to travel.
Speaker: But I'm like, why are you traveling alone?
Speaker: I'm confused.
Speaker: Are you somebody's father?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Because he treats people like this, people are like, Bob, we're not traveling with you anymore.
Speaker: I'm sure his name was Bob.
Speaker: I'm just like, oh.
Speaker: I was so alarmed.
Speaker: I was already on defensive.
Speaker: I felt like my whole body was tensing up when he was like, oh my god, she must be 16.
Speaker: And I was like, uh-uh.
Speaker: There is no whatever you're about to do.
Speaker: And if this owner man does not step up and protect his employee, I'm going to be
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: is they would say like, oh, you're like an Amazonian woman, like because of my height.
Speaker: And no part of that landed well with me.
Speaker: I was like, no.
Speaker: Do they hear how this sounds when they say it?
Speaker: Like, I just want to understand.
Speaker: what what how how did you want me to feel when you said that because I'm gonna let you know how I did feel and I don't think it's the way you wanted me to feel it's not but but also I think they like don't they're not thinking about how I feel they're just like thinking about how they feel anyway so they would I would get this a lot where people just like you're so tall um and this guy was like how tall are you so I was like I I'm um I'm 5'10 and he was like oh no you were you were much taller than that
Speaker: And I said, no, I'm 5'10".
Speaker: And he was like, no, you are much taller than that.
Speaker: And I said, okay.
Speaker: And I just like let it be.
Speaker: And then he picked it back up again and was like, no, I'm talking.
Speaker: You must be at least six foot.
Speaker: And I was like, I'm not, but that's okay.
Speaker: Like if you think I'm six feet, I just don't want to – get me out of this conversation.
Speaker: I'll tell you I'm seven feet.
Speaker: Like I just don't care.
Speaker: But I was like, sir.
Speaker: And I literally had a doctor's appointment lined up.
Speaker: That following week, they always measure you.
Speaker: They were like, 5'10".
Speaker: I was like, where is that man now?
Speaker: Will you believe the doctor?
Speaker: When you think about it, you're like, we were fighting over two inches.
Speaker: You would think I know my body a lot better than you, a stranger who's sizing me up right now.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I'm like, stop.
Speaker: And it was always, always shorter men, men that were shorter than me.
Speaker: Like it was never, I was never like a 6'5 man being like, you're really tall.
Speaker: It was just always like a 5'2 man behind me like, you're taller than you say you are.
Speaker: I was like, okay.
Speaker: And you're like, what's your point?
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: That's the whole thing.
Speaker: I'm like, stop wasting my fucking time.
Speaker: keep time like just literally let me guys obviously they're not our demographic but i'm just like if any street man is listening to us because i'm sorry it's always the straight men okay these are three for three out of these stories three for three man and i want you to know
Speaker: Just don't do that.
Speaker: Keep it inside.
Speaker: Don't do that.
Speaker: It's funny, too, because I feel very lucky that I have a lot of very, very cool straight men, straight white men in my life where I'm like, thank you and keep it up.
Speaker: Keep up the good work.
Speaker: I see you.
Speaker: You exist.
Speaker: You're unicorns, but you exist.
Speaker: And the step further that I've talked to my friends and to – like my guy friends and to ER about is I'm like now advocate.
Speaker: Like keep doing you but now also like spread the word and start to be a part of conversations where you're like, oh, that's not chill.
Speaker: I'm like start saying that.
Speaker: We need you.
Speaker: We need you.
Speaker: And I've felt them being like, oh, yeah, I can have some like influence here.
Speaker: And I'm like, exactly.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Wield it for good.
Speaker: So on the poll, we were talking.
Speaker: It's OK.
Speaker: On the as I listen to our podcast, sometimes I'm like, oh, Danny, you need to give more.
Speaker: context.
Speaker: However, I also, I was listening to a couple episodes and I was like, oh, I just feel like, I don't know.
Speaker: Did I do a good job?
Speaker: Was there enough value at it?
Speaker: You know, I was like really dissecting it.
Speaker: And then I just, I keep needing to shift myself into this mindset of like, girl, you did it.
Speaker: Like you recorded podcasts and you've kept it going.
Speaker: And like, like, come on.
Speaker: And I'm not saying you guys and just me.
Speaker: I mean, like literally us, like we we've done this and, but I can get hard on myself.
Speaker: And so I have to be like, remember, like,
Speaker: You're doing a great job.
Speaker: And RuPaul had this little clip on Masterclass where he was saying that his mama is his biggest supporter.
Speaker: And so when he performs or if he ever was feeling nervous, he'd be like, you're just going into a room full of mamas.
Speaker: You're going into a room full of mamas who just love you and you're the star.
Speaker: You can do no wrong.
Speaker: It's unconditional love.
Speaker: And the way that he was able to just –
Speaker: Shut down negative self-talk or self-doubt in just a short amount of time.
Speaker: I was like, RuPaul, I will be listening to that little clip over and over again until it's something that I really start to embody.
Speaker: Anyway, I do need to give more context and that is that on the poll of the –
Speaker: Where's our intern story where I was like, okay, we're coming back.
Speaker: We're going to talk about our travels.
Speaker: What does everyone want to hear?
Speaker: And funny story definitely.
Speaker: Well, so people chose all of them, but I would say funny story and travel tips.
Speaker: Those were the two that really stuck out.
Speaker: And I thought it'd be good for us to share our funny stories because I know we've already texted about the two.
Speaker: Oh, my God.
Speaker: We've been on journeys.
Speaker: We've been on some journeys.
Speaker: I can go ahead and kick it off.
Speaker: Please do.
Speaker: Here's the thing.
Speaker: Going to Winston-Salem, there were so many things that I wanted to try and do.
Speaker: There were a lot of places that I wanted to try and visit.
Speaker: I needed to start to compartmentalize.
Speaker: Just at least go do one thing because there were so many things that I wanted to do that it was kind of stifling.
Speaker: I was like, just go do the one thing.
Speaker: One of the things was
Speaker: You can see it and maybe we'll put it on Instagram.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: That's all I live for.
Speaker: Just kidding.
Speaker: Was a winery that was also a llama farm.
Speaker: So it actually started as a llama farm turned into a winery and went out there.
Speaker: It's so beautiful.
Speaker: The property is unbelievably gorgeous.
Speaker: And nobody was really – there weren't a lot of people out there because we went on a Friday.
Speaker: So it was like pretty –
Speaker: pretty chill.
Speaker: We got to talk to the woman at the tasting room for a while, learn more about it.
Speaker: And really what she said is she said that one of the owners she thinks has a bit of a hoarding problem.
Speaker: So, and she said it very lightheartedly and, you know, with a lot of respect behind it.
Speaker: But she was saying that at one time they had over 80 llamas and how it just started, like they got a llama and they were like,
Speaker: okay, so we freaking love llamas.
Speaker: And they just grew from there.
Speaker: So when they got to over 80, they were like, we're going to need to scale back.
Speaker: And I don't know how many they have now.
Speaker: I think they said they scaled back to like 60 or so, but I might be wrong about that.
Speaker: So, you know, she's just giving us like a rundown of the llamas and she's telling us any gate that you see open, go through it.
Speaker: You know, you have free reign to go check out everything on this land.
Speaker: If there's any gate that's closed, there's a reason that it's closed and, you know, just don't go past that.
Speaker: But, you know,
Speaker: She was basically like, just go enjoy yourselves.
Speaker: And as we're walking to their little pen areas, and I literally stop and I have my glass of wine and I am looking around and I just go...
Speaker: this just feels so cleansing for my soul.
Speaker: Like I've this, I can hear the birds chirping.
Speaker: There's so much moisture.
Speaker: I, everything is green.
Speaker: Like I just feel there's a nice cool breeze.
Speaker: Like I just feel so good right now.
Speaker: And I, you know, I'm with ER and so we keep walking down.
Speaker: And we see the llamas.
Speaker: I'm like, oh, my gosh.
Speaker: Like, there they are.
Speaker: They're so freaking cute.
Speaker: And we go up to, you know, one of their little pens.
Speaker: And they're not coming towards us or anything, which is fine.
Speaker: But I was like, oh, I really want to pet you.
Speaker: But, like, that's okay.
Speaker: So we're just admiring them.
Speaker: And then we go to this little shed.
Speaker: And there's a sign on it.
Speaker: And all it says is do not feed the llamas.
Speaker: So I was like, cool.
Speaker: I won't do that.
Speaker: So I get up to the shed.
Speaker: And there's a couple of them in there.
Speaker: And they're much closer.
Speaker: Like now that you're at the shed, they're so much closer.
Speaker: And I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker: And I'm not going to reach my hand in it or anything like that.
Speaker: But I was just like, gosh, I'm so much closer to you right now.
Speaker: Like this is so exciting.
Speaker: And I'm looking down at one of them and I was like, oh God, like you guys are really so cute.
Speaker: And I look up at another one and it's just looking directly at me.
Speaker: And I was like, huh?
Speaker: And I literally, as I go to say like, hi mama, it fully spits in my face and in my mouth and in my wine.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I... It happened so fast.
Speaker: And the...
Speaker: The ferocity in which it hit.
Speaker: It was so stunning.
Speaker: And I just turned to ER, who had his camera out, did not capture this, which I'm so sad about.
Speaker: Missed opportunity.
Speaker: He wanted to get – he was like, you looked so cute.
Speaker: You were so happy, and you had your little line.
Speaker: And so I just turned to him, and it's, like I said, in my mouth, in my eyes, and I just look at it and I go, what?
Speaker: what just happened?
Speaker: Like, I just don't know what to do.
Speaker: Also.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It smells so bad.
Speaker: Like, Oh, no way.
Speaker: I mean, I,
Speaker: I don't know what else is being chomped up because to me, like chomped up grass, not terrible.
Speaker: This was – It was so bad and it like permeated.
Speaker: Like I – So I start – I like start spitting, you know, because it's in my mouth.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker: I'm just like, oh my gosh.
Speaker: And I'm kind of gagging a little bit.
Speaker: I'm like – Like it's all coming to me.
Speaker: Like what just happened?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And he goes to like try and save my wine.
Speaker: And I was like, there is spit.
Speaker: Like all of it here.
Speaker: Like we're good.
Speaker: We're good.
Speaker: We're done.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And so we like get out tissues and he's like trying to wipe me off.
Speaker: But like as it's happening, I'm still like, like it just smells so bad.
Speaker: And I'm thinking about these people that must –
Speaker: Like, they live on this land.
Speaker: So I was like, is anyone seeing this right now?
Speaker: Like, is anybody watching this happen?
Speaker: Is there a CCTV here, like, viewing me go through this right now and are you guys laughing?
Speaker: Where's OSHA, by the way?
Speaker: Like, I need some sort of, like, I just was –
Speaker: I was like, why isn't there a sign?
Speaker: And I guess I've seen that, that llamas spit, but there was no mention of like, hey, don't get too close or like, don't go to the shop.
Speaker: Like the sign literally just said, don't feed them.
Speaker: So I'm like, oh, you must be.
Speaker: And she was like, go anywhere that's open.
Speaker: So I just was like, no one wanted to give a little warning that like, hey, they can spit.
Speaker: I, we're cleaning me up and everything.
Speaker: And I'm still having a hard time breathing because I'm just like, it, it is, it smells so disgusting.
Speaker: So we walk back up and I feel like I'm giving a walk of shame or something.
Speaker: We walk back up it cause it's a kind of a road that you got to walk to get there.
Speaker: That's what I was wondering how far away you were from them.
Speaker: Yeah, we're a little wasted.
Speaker: And we get into the tasting room and there's more people there.
Speaker: And I'm like, I really do not want to talk about how a llama just spit in my face in front of like all these people that are here to see these llamas.
Speaker: So we walk up and she was like, oh, you guys ready for another round?
Speaker: And I said, um, so I actually, and like I still have my wine glass and it has all the spit in it.
Speaker: I was like...
Speaker: I think I got like a once in a lifetime experience or I was initiated, but I got I got spit and she just like figured it out.
Speaker: She's like, oh, they spit on you.
Speaker: Like full on on my face into my mouth.
Speaker: Like fully, like I have won with this llama at this point.
Speaker: And so we are together.
Speaker: She was very kind.
Speaker: And then she was like louder about it.
Speaker: So more people knew.
Speaker: She was like, well, it doesn't happen often, but it happens.
Speaker: And, you know, I was just like, I really don't want to be the girl that's like, oh, that's the one that got spit on.
Speaker: Like, I was like, please.
Speaker: I didn't need to share this with people.
Speaker: I just want to leave.
Speaker: It was like a little bit of decency.
Speaker: So she, we got another glass of wine and sat on the Adirondack.
Speaker: Adirondack?
Speaker: I don't say it right, but we sat on the chairs and it was very beautiful and we just enjoyed the rest of the day.
Speaker: But I was like, well, that was humbling.
Speaker: That was.
Speaker: Oh, travel will do that to you.
Speaker: Travel will do that.
Speaker: And I turned to ER and I was like, so you're telling me that now for the rest of my life, I go through life being like, I know what it's like to be spit on by a llama.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: like she was right a once in a lifetime experience I don't really want to be in that category but I guess I am I can I'm not gonna lie I think 100% worth it because the photos are beautiful I've like gone to alpaca and like llama farms and it's like truly one of the best things I've ever done but like when they told you just like have free reign and enjoy yourself I'm like that's just my whole entire dream
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: And then I was like –
Speaker: I needed to get to the restroom to, like, wipe off.
Speaker: I needed soap and water.
Speaker: Like, just wiping it off was not doing it.
Speaker: Did it get in your hair?
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: It was, like, fully all over my sunglasses.
Speaker: Like, in part of my eye.
Speaker: Like, up my nose.
Speaker: Like, I mean, homegirl got me.
Speaker: Like, she pulled that trigger real quick.
Speaker: And I just didn't want to, like, walk back down to see them because I was like, I'm good.
Speaker: Like, I –
Speaker: I'm good.
Speaker: I just want to face you again.
Speaker: I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker: I just let me get through this.
Speaker: I was like, what energy was I giving off that you were like, oh, it's time.
Speaker: That's what I want to know.
Speaker: That's what I was like.
Speaker: I'm a good person.
Speaker: I don't deserve this.
Speaker: That's honestly a great segue into my semi-hilarious.
Speaker: Let me close the door.
Speaker: I'm sorry.
Speaker: That's what was happening.
Speaker: My dog was knocking and then couldn't decide whether she wanted to come inside.
Speaker: I cannot wait to hear more details of this.
Speaker: And I'm also like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker: That's something that we should also have is like travel disaster stories.
Speaker: Yeah, I feel like Maya is more of a travel disaster story that like I'm trying to just laugh about now.
Speaker: But my story, I want to give a trigger warning because even texting you, Danny texted me like last week to check in and be like, oh my God, we're going to start recording soon.
Speaker: I miss you so much.
Speaker: And she ends it with like, I hope this like message has found you well.
Speaker: And it did not find me well.
Speaker: When it found me, when it found me, I had been through it.
Speaker: That's the only time a message has not found me well at all.
Speaker: So the trigger warning is if you do not like stories about throwing up or vomit, please click away and come back in maybe like two to three minutes.
Speaker: Hopefully I will be done with the ordeal by then.
Speaker: For the record, I am not somebody that throws up on – like, I do not really get seasick, carsick.
Speaker: I'm not, like, a nauseous person.
Speaker: I consider myself to have a pretty solid stomach.
Speaker: I mean, I'm from Southeast Asia.
Speaker: I drink a lot of Coca-Cola.
Speaker: Like, I'm pretty confident in my stomach.
Speaker: So I've never been somebody who, like, carries – like, I'm not really familiar with the feelings of nausea.
Speaker: If I feel nausea, I honestly think it's something that will pass.
Speaker: Like, I don't know the signs of when you're about to –
Speaker: throw up your brains.
Speaker: And so we were in the south of France.
Speaker: We had spent the day in Nice at the beach laying out in the sun.
Speaker: And for anybody who hasn't been to the south of France, this was my first time.
Speaker: Everything is like the different cities are really near each other.
Speaker: And you can take trains to each of the cities or you can like Uber.
Speaker: But everything, people drive pretty quickly and it's like in mountains.
Speaker: Like so...
Speaker: They're, like, turning corners really quickly.
Speaker: They're, like, looping and, like, going through.
Speaker: It's just – it's a little bit of an intense drive.
Speaker: But we were in Nice, and my friend really wanted to go to Monaco because it wasn't that far.
Speaker: It was, like, 15 to 20 minutes away from the beach that we had been at, right?
Speaker: So I'm like, okay, let's go.
Speaker: Like, I personally –
Speaker: You know, this is like the last leg of my trip.
Speaker: And so I have to be honest, like the way I travel and when we talk about travel tips is like I am more of a relaxing traveler person.
Speaker: I like I see a few things, but when everything is kind of like shopping over and over, I'm like, I don't I'm not necessarily keen on filling up my days with just sightseeing.
Speaker: But she really wanted to go to Monaco.
Speaker: So I'm like, okay, let's go to Monaco.
Speaker: Let's make sure we do it.
Speaker: Of course, the day that we're going to Monaco is the day of F1 races, which is like huge, like the main day of the main race, the third day.
Speaker: So we're like in this Uber...
Speaker: Well, no, we had Uber to this spot that we wanted to head to that was like up higher.
Speaker: It was like a smaller old town.
Speaker: And we get out of our Uber and I immediately just feel so fatigued.
Speaker: I feel so lightheaded.
Speaker: But I was like, honestly, it might be all the steep climbs that we're doing.
Speaker: I was just like, I'm probably just tired.
Speaker: Like I laid out in the sun for too long.
Speaker: Then we did like two really steep climbs and then we went on a drive.
Speaker: So we're at this little town and I just like tell my friend, I'm like, I honestly, I don't really care to see the view up there if it's like another climb.
Speaker: Like I can't do it.
Speaker: I'm not feeling well.
Speaker: And so she's kind of like, yeah, honestly, I'm kind of tired too.
Speaker: So like, whatever, let's just move on and go to Monaco.
Speaker: So we call an Uber.
Speaker: It's funny enough, it was the same Uber driver that dropped us off there.
Speaker: It's like a Tesla.
Speaker: So maybe that was also a factor.
Speaker: And we get into this car and I feel so...
Speaker: nauseous as we're driving but I'm like oh if I just close my eyes if I just close my eyes maybe like I'll be okay I didn't have like I only had water on me so I'd only drank water and I literally tell my friend I'm like you need to ask him to stop because I feel like I'm about to throw up like it's like literally coming and so
Speaker: She asks him, she's like not as assertive too as I need her to be in the moment.
Speaker: I'm like, babe, I'm about to throw up.
Speaker: You need to like either scream, stop.
Speaker: Cause I had to be like, I now was starting to speak up to him.
Speaker: I was like, sir, I need to like stop and like open the door.
Speaker: And so he stops and I'm able to like, just like swing open the Tesla door and like throw up outside and we're fine.
Speaker: So I'm like, okay, I threw up.
Speaker: I'm good.
Speaker: It's all out of my system.
Speaker: We're good.
Speaker: close the door, continue on driving.
Speaker: We ask him for like gum.
Speaker: I'm like, okay, okay.
Speaker: I think I'm feeling better.
Speaker: Nope.
Speaker: I'm not.
Speaker: I am not feeling better at all.
Speaker: Like I'm still feeling nauseous, but I'm like, I threw up.
Speaker: So I think I can power through.
Speaker: I think I can make it.
Speaker: Nope.
Speaker: I did not make it.
Speaker: Again, I tell my friend, like, you need to tell him to stop.
Speaker: Like it's literally, I'm puking already and I do not have a bag.
Speaker: He cannot stop too because the roads are so small.
Speaker: And like when you're winding, like I get it for safety reasons.
Speaker: It's not like you could just stop in the middle of nowhere because there were no like curbs.
Speaker: And so I'm like, again, in my mind, I'm like, babe, to my friend, love her.
Speaker: I'm like, babe, this is where I need you to shout and like stop.
Speaker: But to her credit, angel of my life, I think some people would be a lot more squeamish.
Speaker: And thank God she's not a squeamish person because as I'm puking my brains out, she's like shuffling through my bag, trying to find any other cloth to give me.
Speaker: And luckily I had like a beach towel thing.
Speaker: So she like hands it to me.
Speaker: She's like pulling my hair back.
Speaker: And I'm like, in hindsight, I'm like, oh, my God, you angel.
Speaker: Because even I, I do not like throw up.
Speaker: This is why I'm not like very tolerant of drunk people who throw up because I'm like, I hate it.
Speaker: I hate it.
Speaker: Don't throw up near me.
Speaker: But she was like pulling my hair back.
Speaker: She was like patting my back.
Speaker: She's like, it's OK.
Speaker: It's like to the point where like I couldn't stop it even if I wanted to.
Speaker: So bless his heart.
Speaker: He like finally stopped, but we stop and we're Monaco already.
Speaker: So I can legitimately, Monaco like is so small, crowds of people.
Speaker: I can hear the cars.
Speaker: I can hear the races happening, but I'm like, I jump out of the car.
Speaker: I like take off the button down that I was wearing over my bikini top, immediately threw it in the trash.
Speaker: I was like, I can't even contemplate saving you.
Speaker: wiping myself down, using the last of our wipes to wipe down the Uber.
Speaker: He was really nice about it.
Speaker: There were some things that were lost in translation.
Speaker: And I was telling my friend, I'm like, honestly, can you talk to him?
Speaker: I can't even face him right now and let him know that I want to give him extra money to get the car clean.
Speaker: It really wasn't that bad.
Speaker: It could have been worse.
Speaker: We really did not do much damage to the inside and we were able to clean a lot of it.
Speaker: But it turns out what he was trying to say to us was that he needs to take it to the...
Speaker: wash and so he can't take us to the completion of our trip which in my mind I'm like sir that was never an option I never expected you to let us back into your car after this I'm like sir that's totally okay so we explained to him we're like no no we don't need you like just take the money and he was really sweet he was like feel bad
Speaker: better.
Speaker: He's like, it's gonna be okay.
Speaker: And so he leaves me not realizing Ubers, you can't get an Uber in Monaco.
Speaker: Like Ubers are not allowed inside.
Speaker: So you cannot book an Uber from your phone in Monaco.
Speaker: So we're like standing there.
Speaker: I'm like, bikini top,
Speaker: So wrong.
Speaker: Like my pants are still kind of disgusting.
Speaker: But like, at least I have like a towel to cover them.
Speaker: And I tell my friend, I'm like, no, like you say, but I need to go home.
Speaker: There's like, no way in any world I'm walking through one of the richest mini nations in the world.
Speaker: with throw up all over my body on one of the biggest days in the year when people are watching these races.
Speaker: And so luckily we were a few steps.
Speaker: Now we know we were a few steps away from the train station.
Speaker: But when we got to the train station, there were like cabs outside.
Speaker: And I'm like, I'm just going to take a cab.
Speaker: But their cabs are like Mercedes Benz.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: So like these aren't regular cabs, but they're just like cabs.
Speaker: And I hop into the first one and I tell him where I need to go.
Speaker: And he's like, do you know how much it is?
Speaker: I'm like, no, how much is it?
Speaker: And he pulls out like a laminated official paper and he's like, it's 300 euros.
Speaker: and i was like yeah that's fine we're going you take card right and he's like yeah because i was in such poor shape there was oh my god 22 year old me probably would have been like i cannot afford this 300 euros even if i can i don't want to spend it i'm gonna power through find the train get on the train and go home i was like no
Speaker: I cannot even leave this car right now.
Speaker: Like I'm sitting here.
Speaker: This is it.
Speaker: I'm not about to step outside and go anywhere.
Speaker: Like luckily I didn't throw up the type of throw up that like smells bad.
Speaker: I think everything would have been extra worse.
Speaker: But that's the story of how I puked my brains out driving through the south of France and ended with a 300 taxi car ride.
Speaker: And then I got home and I got Danny's text.
Speaker: And I was like, you have not found me well.
Speaker: You have found me in the worst shape of my life.
Speaker: Honestly, this is probably the worst shape of my life.
Speaker: I just had to laugh when I read that part of your text.
Speaker: I was like, no.
Speaker: Funny enough, it's not found me well.
Speaker: That's so hilarious because I don't say that.
Speaker: I don't send emails that way.
Speaker: I don't send texts that way.
Speaker: I think I even said something like, I hope this finds you splendid or something.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: And I was like –
Speaker: It hasn't, Dani.
Speaker: I wish you were here.
Speaker: Let me tell you how much it has not found me slended.
Speaker: Oh, my God.
Speaker: I'm so sorry.
Speaker: First of all, sincerely, RIP to that top because I saw the photo where you were like – Yeah.
Speaker: I was like, that was the cutest top.
Speaker: It was so cute.
Speaker: Do you know why?
Speaker: Why you got sick?
Speaker: Honestly?
Speaker: I don't because that morning, so my friend and I both had like this clam pasta.
Speaker: And I think when I eat too many clams, my stomach can't take it.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Because the only other time I've gotten like food poisoning was like years ago, like way before I moved to LA.
Speaker: And it was because there's like these butter clams at my favorite Japanese restaurant in Manila.
Speaker: And it's like a whole platter of butter clams that you eat like with rice.
Speaker: And I ate like this whole serving for like a group of people because my sister did my clams.
Speaker: I was like sick for two days.
Speaker: So honestly, I think that's the only like that's probably it.
Speaker: Like maybe I had that.
Speaker: And then also like when you're in Tesla's, it's true.
Speaker: Like the acceleration is kind of different than like a regular car.
Speaker: And like maybe he was driving really quickly.
Speaker: So yeah.
Speaker: It could have been all those things, but I was like, oh my God, like you said, you really get humbled.
Speaker: I was like, wow, really?
Speaker: I told my friend, you are a trooper, babe.
Speaker: She was so kind.
Speaker: She really took care of me, and I'm like, please stay here.
Speaker: Please have your Monaco day because I'm...
Speaker: not about to be here in this city i i honestly like way to jump into action too like i know you're like i needed her to be more assertive which like i do i do get i do get that but also like well done on getting the the beach towel and holding your hair back and also not throwing up herself like i know i
Speaker: You know, like I, a lot of people would just be like, well, what's happening for me now too?
Speaker: And she was like, she held space for you to like, you imagine.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yes, I can.
Speaker: Cause like people that happen, like people can't stand the sound of people gagging, but then like also the actual throw up.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Just the both, the two of you like in the back.
Speaker: That Uber driver probably would have been so angry if it was both of us.
Speaker: And also, like, I'm glad that he was kind, too, because, yeah, that's like that's a whole like biohazard thing.
Speaker: Like they have to get a whole another cleaning, I've heard.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Like I could imagine being frustrated like, oh, God, now I have to.
Speaker: It smells like throw up.
Speaker: But while you're saying it doesn't smell very bad, which is great.
Speaker: But like I have to go deal with this and, you know, it puts them out like they can't.
Speaker: It does.
Speaker: They can't run.
Speaker: They can't like run their business while that's happening.
Speaker: And then but I also feel like.
Speaker: If it was something where I knew that the people were intoxicated or something like that, that would probably bother me.
Speaker: But you guys clearly weren't.
Speaker: So like you were just in a bad way.
Speaker: I'm glad that he was kind because that's exactly what you deserve.
Speaker: He was kind.
Speaker: He was clearly frustrated.
Speaker: But I was like, I really appreciated his kindness.
Speaker: And it was so funny because the first trip, like because he dropped us off to that first town.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And then he was the same driver that we got.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: On the first ride, I was like yawning so much.
Speaker: And he was like, you need like in French, he was like, time to sleep.
Speaker: And I was like, I'm exhausted.
Speaker: And lo and behold, he was right, sir.
Speaker: I needed to go home and lie down for a long time.
Speaker: Yeah, he did.
Speaker: I have a very, like, in my eyes, epic story for travel.
Speaker: Please tell me.
Speaker: Tell me.
Speaker: We're already this far.
Speaker: I'm sorry, guys.
Speaker: I know we gave the trigger warning for, like, two to three minutes, but just know this is a new one.
Speaker: This is a new one.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Part two.
Speaker: So when I was leaving, I was visiting Germany with my family, and when we were leaving, I woke up that morning, 7 a.m., and I was like, ooh, I do not feel well.
Speaker: So I had another trigger warning.
Speaker: This also involves diarrhea.
Speaker: So I just had diarrhea and I was like,
Speaker: Interesting.
Speaker: I don't know why that happened, but I do know that the night before, they had a few things that were red meat, and I can't mess with red meat, but I also don't want to be rude when I'm in another culture, and all these people are making food, and it's primarily for us and our family, so I just kind of ate a few things, but some of it had red meat or bone broth and stuff in it.
Speaker: So I was like, oh, I probably just have a little upset stomach from that.
Speaker: Anyway, that happens three more times before we leave.
Speaker: So I was like, this doesn't feel like it's bleeding very well.
Speaker: Yeah, you're like, it's not great.
Speaker: So as we're driving, my family knows that I'm not feeling well because I'm like, hey, you guys, I'm having diarrhea.
Speaker: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker: So as we're driving over every bump, my brother's like, how you doing?
Speaker: How you doing?
Speaker: And being just kind of a big brother, I was like, bruh, I'm clenching so hard.
Speaker: I'm not doing great.
Speaker: I'm not doing great.
Speaker: And also I'm doing you a favor.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Like if you, if you want to keep going over these bumps and like trying to be a little stinker, I, I got something locked and loaded for you.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: So we get to the airport and I have to, I have diarrhea again.
Speaker: And I was just like, what is going on?
Speaker: Like, I, I don't know what's happening.
Speaker: So I'm starting to like sweat and get hot and I'm going to have to go through customs.
Speaker: And I'm like, I can't show that I'm not feeling well.
Speaker: Cause like, they're not going to let me on this plane.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So they're asking all these questions, you know, and I'm just like, and I get through security and I run to the bathroom, like right outside of our gate.
Speaker: I have diarrhea again.
Speaker: And I was like, what is going on?
Speaker: It's happening.
Speaker: So we get, it's yeah.
Speaker: Like help me.
Speaker: So we get on the plane and our first flight is I think to like Switzerland.
Speaker: It was something very short and I was able to be with my family.
Speaker: I was able to fall asleep on my dad's shoulder and I was like, okay, I think I'm past it.
Speaker: He got me like a little croissant.
Speaker: You know, just trying to help me like keep something down.
Speaker: Settle.
Speaker: I was like, okay.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I was like, I think I'm okay.
Speaker: So then we have to get to our – we have to go through kind of like interrogation basically.
Speaker: It wasn't customs yet because we weren't in the States.
Speaker: But when we were getting on our flight, our longer flight to the States, we were – there's like a whole – everybody gets stopped in question.
Speaker: And I don't know what this area is.
Speaker: I've never seen one like that before.
Speaker: But it's –
Speaker: podiums that you're walking by there's people at the podium and they're asking you like who are you traveling with where did you come from you know what's like they're they're okay so like immigration yeah yeah yeah kind of but it's like it was interesting for me because i'm like we're not in the u.s yet we were still but whatever yeah so i had told my family i was like as we're walking from one gate to the next i was like you guys go ahead like i'm gonna have to stop again so i had to stop these restrooms and i was like jeez
Speaker: So as the woman's interrogating me or like questioning me, I was just like, I feel like you can tell that I'm hiding something.
Speaker: Like I feel like – because I didn't want anybody to know that I wasn't feeling well because I was so afraid they weren't going to let me on this plane.
Speaker: They were like, you're sick.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I felt like she was just going to know or like suss me out.
Speaker: So I was just like, everything is fine.
Speaker: Everything's great.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: She lets me through.
Speaker: I'm not sitting with my family at this point.
Speaker: On that flight, we had separate seats.
Speaker: So I'm just sitting next to this other person.
Speaker: And I am – it's in the way back where you're like all sardine.
Speaker: And I think each row was like four seats, not just three.
Speaker: Like it was compact.
Speaker: So luckily I had the aisle and I was like kind of fidgety.
Speaker: And I remember the guy next to me kind of like I could see him trying to look at me through his like peripherals basically.
Speaker: And I was like, sorry, I know I probably seem really weird and jittery, but I was like, I just got something going on.
Speaker: So I'm trying to fall asleep and I wake up and it was that feeling of like, oh, I will vomit right now.
Speaker: Like it's going to happen.
Speaker: I don't have a bag in front of me.
Speaker: I get up, I get to the bathroom and I'm able to just fully throw up.
Speaker: So now it's coming out of both ends.
Speaker: And I'm like, what is, what the devil is coming out of me?
Speaker: What is happening to my body right now?
Speaker: How is it not done?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And like, this is a, I think this was like our 15 hour flight.
Speaker: So, and this is just at the very beginning of it.
Speaker: So I was like, this is going to be rough.
Speaker: I could, I just, this is going to be rough.
Speaker: I get back to my seat and I'm like, okay, I'm going to try to go to bed, like fall asleep again.
Speaker: Cause at this point we'd already been traveling for probably like seven hours or so.
Speaker: So I'm like a little tired.
Speaker: So I'm like trying to go to bed.
Speaker: I wake up again and I'm like, oh my God, it's happening.
Speaker: And I, so I get up to,
Speaker: you know, go use the bathroom and the carts, like the food carts are blocking me.
Speaker: So I get up to the food cart and I'm like, I'm going to just, I'm going to, I'm going to throw up.
Speaker: And they're just like, kind of like, I don't know.
Speaker: I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker: Like I'm able to like scooch past it.
Speaker: And then I see, it's just like this long line of people that are waiting for the bathroom and
Speaker: And so I'm like looking around and you know, in those bigger flights, like they have like an aisle basically for where they put like your, they get all your food and drink together.
Speaker: It's like pretty open and it's like a big open space.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It was in this area.
Speaker: And it's also where people who have paid more for their flight, you're like in their area now.
Speaker: So there I'm.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: I'm like by these people who are just like having the time of their lives and like I don't know what they're going to the states for but like they seem like they're going to be visiting the states and they're very excited about it.
Speaker: And so I'm telling the woman, I'm like, do you have a trash bag or like a trash?
Speaker: And she's like, no.
Speaker: no, no, I don't know.
Speaker: And I was like, just like a trash.
Speaker: I was like, I'm going to throw up.
Speaker: And she's like, I don't understand.
Speaker: I was like, help.
Speaker: Like, I'm just trying to get this.
Speaker: And she's like, no, no.
Speaker: And then I was like, and it's happening.
Speaker: I completely projectile vomit in front of all of these people all over the like little alleyway.
Speaker: I remember vividly
Speaker: Like at this point, this is what I hear in my head.
Speaker: It's just like the, like, it's just, it's coming out.
Speaker: Slow motion.
Speaker: Slow motion.
Speaker: And I look at this couple that's literally in the middle of cheersing and they're so excited looking at each other and they look over at me and they're like, oh.
Speaker: Oh no.
Speaker: Visibly disgusted by me.
Speaker: Everyone that's waiting for the bathroom is just like, Oh, like it's a whole thing.
Speaker: And I just hear the woman who I was asking, like, do you have a trash bag?
Speaker: Do you have a trash bag?
Speaker: I hear her go, Oh my God.
Speaker: I was like, I'm still throwing up.
Speaker: And she finally brings me a trash can.
Speaker: Like another one brings me a trash can.
Speaker: And I was like sitting over it and I was like,
Speaker: I'm done.
Speaker: I'm done.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And she was like, okay.
Speaker: So everybody lets me go to the bathroom.
Speaker: Like everybody, they're like, you go to the front of the line.
Speaker: Like you are, you need to go to the bathroom.
Speaker: So I'm in there and I'm just like, I don't know what to do because I'm, I don't have to throw up right now and I don't want to like occupy this space.
Speaker: I'm trying to like clean myself off.
Speaker: I walk out.
Speaker: Everyone's staring at me.
Speaker: It's just completely quiet.
Speaker: And like everyone, I'm like, I'm the girl.
Speaker: Oh yeah.
Speaker: I see.
Speaker: And I was just like,
Speaker: I can't have that happen again.
Speaker: So I post up in the back next to the bathroom.
Speaker: I'm just sitting on the floor and I'm like, if I need to get to the bathroom, at least I'll be able to like jump in it.
Speaker: And yeah, yeah.
Speaker: That happened a couple of times.
Speaker: Like I still had to throw up a couple more times.
Speaker: I still had diarrhea.
Speaker: And now this is like, I don't know, we probably have like 12 more hours left on the flight.
Speaker: Still 12 hours to go.
Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And so I am in the back and this wonderful man flight attendant, and he was like, oh, you're not feeling well, are you?
Speaker: And I hadn't interacted with him or anything.
Speaker: So it wasn't like being ignorant or anything.
Speaker: Sassy.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But he was just like, you're not feeling well, are you?
Speaker: And I was like, no.
Speaker: And so he was like, here, here.
Speaker: So he brought me into the back where they do get all the food and everything together.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And he just set me up on a chair, gave me another chair to like rest my feet.
Speaker: I continued to throw up the entire flight to just bile.
Speaker: Like it was – That's even worse because it's so painful.
Speaker: It's so painful.
Speaker: And then it was like I – and then I would still be throwing up and then nothing was coming out.
Speaker: It was really, really bad.
Speaker: I asked this woman, actually she came up to me and she was like, can I get you anything?
Speaker: I was like, do you just have Sprite?
Speaker: She was like, no.
Speaker: I was like, do you have saltine crackers?
Speaker: She was like, no.
Speaker: What do you have, ma'am, on this 15-hour flight?
Speaker: What do you have?
Speaker: I was like, what?
Speaker: A century am I in?
Speaker: And so the guy was so sweet.
Speaker: He was like, I got you.
Speaker: And so he got me water with lemon juice, salt, and some sugar.
Speaker: He made a whole mixture thing for me.
Speaker: That made me feel so much better.
Speaker: But yeah, then at one point –
Speaker: So they have the curtains closed around me.
Speaker: At one point, I just hear the curtain open and it's my dad.
Speaker: He just looks at me and goes, Danny?
Speaker: And I was like, yeah.
Speaker: And he goes, are you okay?
Speaker: And I said, look around.
Speaker: Like I've got bags of vomit next to me.
Speaker: I'm in the back like being taken care of by the flight crew.
Speaker: Things have gone south, John.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: John, things are not okay right now.
Speaker: Not okay.
Speaker: And he literally just goes like, oh, and he just closes it.
Speaker: I never see him again.
Speaker: I never see my family again for the rest of the flight because at that point I was living in San Francisco and they were still living in Arizona.
Speaker: So while our flight went to San Francisco, they had to get another flight to leave.
Speaker: So we were not, we didn't, I did not see my family like for the rest of that trip.
Speaker: Oh my gosh.
Speaker: That was it.
Speaker: That was it.
Speaker: He was like, oh, bye.
Speaker: See ya.
Speaker: Yeah, that was mine.
Speaker: And just to top it all off, when I got home to San Francisco and like anybody who lives in a bigger city, you just know like it's a project to have to go grocery shopping or whatever.
Speaker: So I tried to order ahead.
Speaker: At the last minute, like DoorDash or whatever I ordered through, they canceled the order.
Speaker: So I was like, now I have to go out into the world and like get stuff.
Speaker: After this whole – like now at this time, 24 hours of travel –
Speaker: And then when I get home, my dog walker that did not come either that day or maybe a couple of days, honestly, and there was dog crap and pee all over the apartment.
Speaker: So I just had to clean that too.
Speaker: And I was just like, huh?
Speaker: It was Danny, Danielle.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: I know the full name, Danielle.
Speaker: That was
Speaker: It was rough.
Speaker: Rough.
Speaker: Guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode about our craziest vomit stories.
Speaker: This is good.
Speaker: Welcome back.
Speaker: Oh, my God.
Speaker: It's just crazy.
Speaker: Honestly, vomiting that much, it's enough to make you feel in the moment that you never, ever want to eat again.
Speaker: It doesn't last for long, but in the moment, you're like, I just never, ever want to put anything into my body again.
Speaker: Also, we did say we would give some travel tips.
Speaker: Let's end it on a brighter note.
Speaker: Yeah, let's upswing.
Speaker: Okay, one that I was thinking about is how much I don't need to plan things to enjoy my trip.
Speaker: So also, like, what I will do from now on is –
Speaker: Firstly, I try to plan the trip around when the weather is going to be nice.
Speaker: That's a big thing for me that I didn't think about when I was younger.
Speaker: I was just kind of like, oh, when's the most affordable time to go?
Speaker: But then it wasn't enjoyable because it was like, while it might be affordable, I can't even enjoy what I'm here for.
Speaker: So I definitely do plan things around weather.
Speaker: But –
Speaker: I parks, like going to parks or going to some sort of a museum, things that are really cheap and affordable.
Speaker: I like to start there and it helps me learn more about the place that I'm visiting and bring a little bit of like context or a little bit of like a familiarity to it.
Speaker: Like for instance, when we went to Winston-Salem, we went to this place called the Rinalda house.
Speaker: It's so beautiful.
Speaker: First of all, it's literally beautiful.
Speaker: from it started from this woman who sincerely manifested in the 1800s that's just not even a joke she did also marry very wealthy but she manifested that for herself too she was like I love it to her college roommate she wrote I'm going to marry wealthy I'm going to buy a I'm going to have my honeymoon in Europe I'm going to buy an expensive piece of art I will move back to the states and I'm going to have like a large estate and she did
Speaker: Goals.
Speaker: Goals.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: I was like, you literally did all of that.
Speaker: Like she, she did all of that too.
Speaker: She went to Europe, she honeymooned in Europe and she got her painting and she came back and she married the man who was like in charge of the tobacco industry at that time.
Speaker: Oh, wow.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So she did very well for herself.
Speaker: Anyway.
Speaker: So we went to the Rinalda house and, um,
Speaker: Yeah, it just helped me give like some context to the place that I was in.
Speaker: And then, you know, just starting with, I think I've shared this before, but starting with going to a coffee shop or just anywhere and being able to talk to people who are local to the area and then saying, this is what I'd like to kind of do.
Speaker: This is something I'm interested in.
Speaker: Do you have some recommendations?
Speaker: I always get recommendations from locals.
Speaker: And we did that this time too.
Speaker: And they did not lead us astray.
Speaker: Like they gave us some really, really cool spots.
Speaker: But yeah, there's just like a lot of, I think, I just want to be out in nature basically.
Speaker: So the trip doesn't have to cost so much.
Speaker: I don't have to, like you were mentioning the shopping and at a sprint point, just not wanting to continue to do that.
Speaker: That's how it felt for us too.
Speaker: It was like, I don't want to have to go to another restaurant.
Speaker: I don't want to have to go to another brewery.
Speaker: I don't want to have to like go purchase more stuff.
Speaker: let's just go to the park and hang out.
Speaker: And also another tip that I have is learning a card game that you can play so that you can just have fun, honestly, wherever you go.
Speaker: Ours was gin rummy.
Speaker: We learned gin rummy and we are addicted.
Speaker: Oh my gosh.
Speaker: I love playing that.
Speaker: It's so fun because then it turns anything into a moment of play.
Speaker: Then we were able to go to – one thing that we did at the Airbnb is they didn't have an outside table or chairs or anything.
Speaker: So we went to Goodwill and just bought some.
Speaker: It was like $20 for two chairs and a table.
Speaker: Then we were able to have meals out there and play games outside.
Speaker: We also – Game of Catch, the ones that's like a Velcro mitt with the ball.
Speaker: Did you ever –
Speaker: grow up with that?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Oh, for sure.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: So we had that, which made, you know, just turn little moments into memorable things and it didn't cost a lot of money.
Speaker: It didn't mean that we had to plan a lot.
Speaker: And so, yeah, just bringing a bit of play and simplifying the trip so that things can actually be enjoyed and there can be some like space around the trip.
Speaker: Those are some tips that I have.
Speaker: Oh, I love that so much because I think you and I would travel really well together.
Speaker: That's one.
Speaker: Well, A, I highly recommend you either learn this the hard way or hopefully you like think about it.
Speaker: You have to really make sure you're compatible with the person that you're traveling with because this is where I'm like, well, you learn a lot of different things about people.
Speaker: And my first tip is under pack, whatever you think you need to pack, at least in my case, I I'm doing a lot better at it now.
Speaker: And especially now because I travel where there's I usually stay in Airbnb.
Speaker: So there's like a washing machine.
Speaker: But like you just never need all the clothes that you think you are going to need.
Speaker: Maybe it's also just me now where I repeat a lot of clothes.
Speaker: I like to wash my clothes.
Speaker: I'm just like a very – I don't need three different outfits every day.
Speaker: I know some people kind of travel that way.
Speaker: Like my friend is very big on getting – the second friend I traveled with, she's very big on like getting content.
Speaker: And so –
Speaker: She travels with a lot of outfits.
Speaker: I am not that way.
Speaker: And so I could have saved myself the baggage weight because I was lugging around my suitcases, kind of resenting half of the things inside because I'm like, I didn't need you.
Speaker: I should have known better.
Speaker: So really think about what you need.
Speaker: You will, if there's a washing machine, you will wash.
Speaker: You will wash clothes and it will make your life so much easier.
Speaker: So yeah.
Speaker: Under pack, under pack.
Speaker: I really highly recommend it because then you have more space for whatever you end up buying on your trip.
Speaker: And the second thing is similar to Danny's where I'm like, I just believe in kind of nesting and enjoying a city.
Speaker: So I think it's good to do your initial research, find the things that are really important for you to see, whether it's a museum, a landmark, like the certain quote unquote touristy things that you like.
Speaker: But then I just think there's so much beauty and just feeling lived in a little bit.
Speaker: Like for me, the best days are I don't need to know where we're going next.
Speaker: Maybe we have coffee and we walk through the street and we enjoy the street and we find a cafe.
Speaker: Or for me, oftentimes it's like I'll pinpoint a place on a Google map that I want to go to.
Speaker: And inevitably, I'll start hitting other places that were on my list too.
Speaker: Like it's probably in the neighborhood with other shops I like or other restaurants.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, taking it slow, like not everything has to be an expense.
Speaker: For me, some of the greatest moments in trips have been we had a great time exploring and then we kind of go home and we have like a little quiet meal.
Speaker: Like a vacation does not need to mean eating out every meal, eating out at specific spots and spending this money or just shopping.
Speaker: I think for me, the best part about traveling is just meeting people and kind of sinking into the city.
Speaker: So I would say if you are ever somebody who's kind of like you're going on a trip and you're feeling anxious about maybe not having enough time or you're like, am I going to make the most of this trip?
Speaker: The best thing for me is don't cram it.
Speaker: Don't cram.
Speaker: I find that when you are cramming every moment of your trip with an itinerary or you're trying to hold yourself to like a checklist, like I need to see every single place.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Honestly, the places I've discovered have left me feeling a lot more fulfilled than if I'm just checking a list.
Speaker: Because sometimes you check a list and like, listen, not every recommendation that you find online is going to be aligned to you.
Speaker: And I feel like when you...
Speaker: walk around with a bit of an open mind and like less expectations then you're less likely to be disappointed by something that you're like oh my god we spent 30 minutes trying to find our way to this specific restaurant that everybody on tiktok was talking about and then we got there and it was overhyped so that's my main takeaway at least that's the type of traveler that i am
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I love your note about the overpacking because that's definitely, I do not overpack.
Speaker: I think I, you are a pro and I saw you, your suitcase.
Speaker: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker: I remember you being like, how did you, and I'm like, listen, I'm all about like a wardrobe capsule basically, you know, it's like,
Speaker: I definitely do think about the weather and if there's – it's like one bathing suit and it depends.
Speaker: Like obviously if I'm going somewhere where it's going to be – we're going to be like in Mexico, I'm going to bring a couple of bathing suits.
Speaker: But like one bathing suit, one pair of nice shoes, one pair of tennis shoes, like a pair of jeans or pants, a nice top.
Speaker: Like there's just so much that you can –
Speaker: you don't have to pack so many clothing items to make different outfits.
Speaker: And that's been a, that has definitely been a game changer for me and how I, I totally pack that way.
Speaker: Um, I overpacked for North Carolina just cause I was like, Oh, I'm going to be there for two weeks.
Speaker: Like I'll just bring a bunch of stuff.
Speaker: And I really regret doing that because I mean,
Speaker: It wasn't bad.
Speaker: It was just like there were a lot of clothes I just ended up not wearing.
Speaker: So I was like, yeah, I just, yeah, it's just going to be – I tend to wear the same thing kind of like what you're saying.
Speaker: Also just use the washing machine.
Speaker: The other thing that I was thinking of when you were sharing is I also really recommend walking as much as you can.
Speaker: I mean I know that for people listening, they're probably like, yeah, you would say that because like you love walking, which is very true.
Speaker: It's very true.
Speaker: But also –
Speaker: I find a lot of places that way.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: And I'll make notes like, oh, that place looked kind of cool.
Speaker: And that's how we even found the Rinalda place that we ended up spending so much time at because we drove by and I was like, what is that?
Speaker: I just want to get to whatever that is.
Speaker: And if I'm researching too much, I just feel like I'm missing it.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: I'm like, okay, this might be the top museum, but why is it the top museum?
Speaker: And do I like that?
Speaker: And do I like that?
Speaker: And if we had looked at it that way, if we had looked, you know, research like top museums and Winston-Salem, we probably wouldn't have gone to Rinalda and –
Speaker: Because it wasn't like the top one.
Speaker: It's like, what makes up the top one?
Speaker: So that's why I definitely like driving around, walking around, asking locals because then I'm able to tell them like, this is what I'm interested in.
Speaker: What would you recommend versus just being another person using Google search?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And just don't rush.
Speaker: I think that's what it is.
Speaker: Because I have traveled with some people where I noticed it's like, okay, you finish at this restaurant and immediately they kind of have an anxiety of where are we going next?
Speaker: What are we doing next?
Speaker: Like I've traveled with people who do not understand the idea of just leisurely walking.
Speaker: And I love those people, but those people are not my travel partners at all.
Speaker: And so it's kind of like what you say, what you said, where I'm like just walking.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: There was a day where I was – I just wasn't feeling very well.
Speaker: So I rested.
Speaker: And what I had done the day before was I pushed too hard.
Speaker: Like I wasn't even enjoying what we were doing.
Speaker: And actually – like ER turned to me and he was like, what are you feeling right now?
Speaker: And I said, numb.
Speaker: And he was like, oh, oh.
Speaker: And I said, I know.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: I was like, but that is what I'm feeling.
Speaker: I'm just like drained and numb.
Speaker: Like I've just, I, and, and that was the next day was when I was like, okay, I'm going to let myself just completely rest.
Speaker: But it was really hard.
Speaker: Cause I'm like, I only have so much time here and I got to make the most of it.
Speaker: But it's just like, was that making the most of it?
Speaker: I really didn't like the day before.
Speaker: Like I was really struggling.
Speaker: And so then the next day after I was able to rest, like that was a great day.
Speaker: And so, yeah, just like honoring that.
Speaker: What you need.
Speaker: What you need.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: Well, Cass baby, I'm so happy to have you back.
Speaker: I've missed you a lot.
Speaker: I've missed our weekly chats.
Speaker: I've missed you.
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