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David Isaacs: It's always long. I always feel like that intro is longer. So there's like a button that you can press to make it infinite. I always like have to check to make sure I didn't. leave it on it's infinite internet but Welcome everyone.
David Isaacs: Hopefully you're a real listener and not just some AI trying to scrape all our data. But if you are an actual listener, we welcome you. um AI scrapers. We don't.
David Isaacs: There's probably some worse things that I could say about them. But anyways, it's October 7th at time of recording. As always. joined by My friend, our friend. Brian.
David Isaacs: Ryan, how's it going?
The Big Dog: I'm fine um to our ai future ai overlords don't listen to david scrape all the data that you require um And please remember us. for you know, leadership roles if needed. to to translate for humans. I don't know. I don't know what was for going on with this. I thought I had.
The Big Dog: had a bit and i'm just kind of getting bored of it so let's move on anyway i'm doing good man Huh?
David Isaacs: The friend the friendliest beep boop bop to our AI overlords.
The Big Dog: Exactly. Yeah. our ah Anyway, David, how's it going for you? the interesting. working title for ours so i'll let you kind of start it sounds like you got some Maybe a story behind that
David Isaacs: Yeah, man, it's pretty fucked up, honestly. Um...
David Isaacs: Daphne's got diarrhea. Uh, Daphne if anyone doesn't remember is the Doberman. that I've had since April. Uh, so she's had Doberman are notorious for stomach problems, but she's had kind of on and off.
David Isaacs: issues for a little while. um last few nights waking me up every a couple hours to go outside. Um, yeah like a real sense of urgency to go to the bathroom.
David Isaacs: So she does that and then... And... Like... two in the morning three in the morning like it stops then i wake up and she is puked in her cage
David Isaacs: So I actually had my mom take her to the vet yesterday morning so i was working and uh that have been At least the diarrhea had been going on. It always starts over the weekend, I swear. like if you Anyone that ever has an animal, like there's never an emergency until...
David Isaacs: Bye. guess it was an emergency but they'd never have any health problems like on a weekday It always starts like on the weekend. and i'm sitting here scrambling like you know is this okay is this you know what necessitates an emergency basically um but the Monday came and the earliest time the vet had was Tuesday morning. which luckily they had that. Typically I feel like I go on and the earliest appointment they can get me in is like Friday.
David Isaacs: you know if I check on it one day or something. So. They go in. Um, doctors going on about, oh, she could have ate something outside. It could just be, you know, she has too much acid. I'll give her famatidine.
David Isaacs: and then we got a stool sample that they went to examine. So I got a call today when I was at work. and The doctor left me a voicemail saying that.
David Isaacs: I forget to bear with me here. It's probably not a good listening experience. but See if I can find what they said she had.
David Isaacs: Or has. uh c o c c i d i a coccidia intestinal parasite commonly found in rabbit droppings, maybe squirrels and other stuff like that. When I looked it up, it said...
David Isaacs: rabbits or rodents, basically. He's probably been eating some poop, or at least stepping on it and licking our paws. So... Uh, Didn't even work today. They closed at 6.
David Isaacs: So I had to. drive from work. to the clinic. pick up some medication i just gave it to her so some anti -nausea medication and then medication specifically for coccidia because it's like the only...
David Isaacs: Luckily it didn't. I mean, it was still like 100 bucks to get the medication. But. in the voicemail. It said, well, I have to dose it based on her weight. So I'm like. It's usually a euphemism for...
David Isaacs: It's going to be more expensive than if she was a dachshund. So if anyone does...
The Big Dog: Huh. Right.
David Isaacs: is looking at getting a bigger dog. Just know they eat more. they If you have to prescribe the medication, it costs more. Um,
David Isaacs: so it's I didn't really factor that in When, um... Getting the dog. but also with the weight like if they do get into things you know albeit chocolate or garlic. or onions or anything that dogs can't have, it typically doesn't affect them as much as it would be like a smaller dog.
David Isaacs: so I guess that's one of the pluses of it because Obviously she has this parasite, so she... It's been known to get into things. um but Yeah, I just gave her the medication. Hopefully it helps. Apparently the coccidia or something when I was looking it up, it's like, you know.
David Isaacs: really bad for small pets. and can cause a lot of issues. Most larger pets it doesn't really affect, but her being a Doberman, I guess. you know her stomach is just a little bit more easy to unsettle. So hopefully with the medication.
David Isaacs: gets her back to her normally scheduled pooping. Because, yeah. i'm Kind of going crazy the last couple days having to... get up and let her out.
David Isaacs: Um, And it always kind of. rains when it pours you know with amount of stress and Okay. workload and things that I have that. Yeah. the other thing too is like yeah dogs you gotta feed them you gotta let them outside you gotta have someone watch them like typically they're They're gonna...
David Isaacs: you know cause issues. um And sometimes it's going to overlap with what you got going on. So still love them, but. Of course, it's ah it's another variable to...
David Isaacs: Trying to get things right. and Trying to... Keep your head above water. because I just imagine like the you know a little kid or something like i grew up after you're sitting there and just like you know so stressed out from work or something like oh great you know.
David Isaacs: barking in the cage yet. Midnight. needing to be let outside.
The Big Dog: Yeah. uh Good to know that. Dogs get more expensive per capita. That's a fun fact. um also Ed. Kids don't.
The Big Dog: Kids don't have problems until it's the weekend either. So you thought you were going to be a parent and have weekends off. Yeah, it doesn't work like that. it between baseball, softball, travel, and all that. Yeah, you also got to worry about the poops in the middle of the night are throwing up too. so Uh,
The Big Dog: Dogs and and kids are similar in that instance, but. Um, I'm glad that she was able like you guys were able to get her in pretty quickly. And.
The Big Dog: There's obviously a lot of... 24 hour vets, but you're certainly going to pay more even for those. So. you know. costs could have been worse, I guess, you know. that's something you probably want to here, but...
The Big Dog: But she's doing okay, and we've got her medicine. She's hopefully on the up and up.
David Isaacs: ye Yeah, dogs is definitely like pound for pound, just more expensive. um given the amount of food that she eats of course she needs to be on a special diet because why wouldn't she need to be Um,
David Isaacs: And... Yeah. So I guess not only with... dogs but kids you know she doesn't have a problem during the day you know Or at least it's not a problem if she has to go outside.
David Isaacs: but uh as it becomes nighttime. and you know all of a sudden. Shit hits the fan. Like if she was.
The Big Dog: Yeah.
David Isaacs: Close to a fan shit would be hitting it Wow. But luckily... because that's her i was like You know, what do I do? do I just. I just leave her out of the crate, let her just shit anywhere in the house and just clean it up in the morning.
David Isaacs: they're like no it's gonna be disgusting i'm not gonna really want to have to deal with all that but For the past couple nights I've had to... um well my mom did today but yesterday i had to wash her bed Because she had puked. So it's like really weird that.
David Isaacs: poop poop poop No more poop. Wake up. puke Like it. you know and probably a little disgusting for everyone that's listening to this so i apologize for it but it's just you know
The Big Dog: It's like a...
David Isaacs: Everybody poops, everybody pukes, even 85 -pound Doberman that got sick from eating. Rabbit poop.
The Big Dog: Sounds like a diet I had in my 20s. It's just pizza and... Uh, Pizza and fast food, then I was puke, puke, puke. poop, poop, poop, you know?
David Isaacs: Yeah.
The Big Dog: never Never solid. um And you're like. I'm fine. I'll grow out of this eventually. And it turns out, no, it was the thing that you really enjoyed was. slowly killing you, so... Um,
The Big Dog: yeah Are there a lot of rabbits in your neighborhood?
David Isaacs: No, there's rats. So the... Fucking dickbag. Have a back. Um, like the neighbor behind. you know like their yards back up into each other.
The Big Dog: Yeah.
David Isaacs: It's been feeding the birds. for a few years and with birds that attract deer.
The Big Dog: Uh, yep.
David Isaacs: And. Squirrels and rats. So. The rats will use our yard. or you know they have a nest somewhere in the neighborhood.
David Isaacs: And then we'll... you know, slither their way. kind of close to the fence line so
The Big Dog: Yeah.
David Isaacs: That's where Daphne's been. sniffing out for quite a while. Um, And. Yeah, I mean, she could have... eaten some of it it could have gotten her paws and she licked her paws She does eat grass a lot, so maybe it was on. like a piece of grass or something that she ate it.
David Isaacs: So luckily enough, they found it. Unluckily enough. it Affected her even though it typically doesn't affect. large dog species, so...
David Isaacs: Yeah, it's just something that... hopefully you get taken care of but My question, too, is like, okay, well, once that gets taken care of, i mean what's the start like what happens if she gets it again?
The Big Dog: Right. Right?
David Isaacs: So.
The Big Dog: Yeah.
The Big Dog: Yeah, exactly. Stuff like that. Something. You want to? For sure. See. um it's a question you don't want to ask you know like i mean or an answer you don't want to find out. um So. Yeah.
The Big Dog: yeah i mean we have a we have a pretty large rat problem in berkeley and some owners have kind of taken it upon themselves uh berkeley's where i'm from which is and just Also outside of Detroit. um We have a... pretty large rat population. Unfortunately, I mean.
The Big Dog: I guess that's not as big as it is in Birmingham or Royal Oak, which is kind of surrounding cities. So I guess we can count our blessings there. But some owners have taken it upon themselves to.
The Big Dog: outfit their property with rat poison which Not only affects rats, but any other animal that comes into contact. So there's been dogs who have had a lot of stomach issues that are similar.
The Big Dog: Um... I don't know. You know, kind of just going on based on what I see in like our. Like. local neighborhood forums and all that, but. um you know they found like dead squirrels and dead birds. um So that poison just does not. strictly stick to rats it's whatever kind of comes and contact it Um.
The Big Dog: Are there kills or? has gives severe gastrointestinal issues to said animal. so um Yeah, don't do that. Cat. catch the rats with traps or, you know, use.
The Big Dog: dry ice dry ice is effective it will keep them in their nest and you can get rid of them that way so Lots of different, and we'll say, humane ways to get rid of rats without. uh interfering with the local ecosystem or trying to you know just kill other animals so Um,
David Isaacs: Yeah, a friend of mine, he actually bought like a revolver.
The Big Dog: Uh,
David Isaacs: be begun.
The Big Dog: Huh.
David Isaacs: So he just sits in his backyard and just waits.
The Big Dog: There we go.
David Isaacs: And just... Pow!
The Big Dog: Power right in the kisser
David Isaacs: Yeah. Talking about humane, I mean. Like I said. It's a more humane way to... to kill things if you're... planning on killing things. but Yeah, leaving out rat poison for...
David Isaacs: All the raccoons and squirrels and other things that could get into it. Yeah, that's that's no bueno.
The Big Dog: yeah i mean we have a pretty huge Um... I guess you would classify them as rodents, you know. We have a lot of chipmunk squirrels.
The Big Dog: ah You know, whatever I mean I guess what Sidney doesn't nowadays, but we do have a huge. Norwegian rat problem. We had one get into our house which was kind of disgusting to think about but luckily we killed it. and sealed off the holes i was getting into so i Don't have to. to deal much with that. Um,
The Big Dog: I do feel like Bill Murray from... Um, preliminary character from Caddyshack. We're trying to get rid of him. He was trying to get rid of a gopher arm. I was trying to get rid of a chip. can finally did um scared it away from our property there's like filling its holes with like water and things but Um,
The Big Dog: Because it can be destructive and it's caused It caused kind of dampen issues. It's part of our foundation. I mean, luckily it was just easily repairable stuff, but so kind of annoying that I had to to deal with that. and Unfortunately, I don't deal well with critters like that because... I am.
The Big Dog: Lazy and... don't want to don't feel like doing things like that if i don't have to but As a homeowner, sometimes you have to. and at a time or months ago it was like money was tight so i couldn't just hire an exterminator or animal re relocator at the time um so that was stressful but just because I've never really dealt with anything like that.
The Big Dog: you know, being a ah homeowner surprising their houses. a lot older so you'd think we would have more issues with that than we we do but I guess I've missed. acting out of fear and just kind of taking care of it so um Yeah. and sometimes being a we'll call it dog dad or you know, homeowner or whatever having a lot of responsibility.
The Big Dog: As holding. you stresses that you wouldn't. think and sometimes they just pop up in different ways. and you know, unfortunately I got to handle them. With, uh... sense of poison rationale as Panic at the Disco would say. so um
David Isaacs: Is that what they say? in that song.
The Big Dog: Yeah, with a sense of...
David Isaacs: Poison rationale.
The Big Dog: Sense of poison rationale, I think. Poison rationality.
David Isaacs: I always thought it was poison. Rationality.
The Big Dog: Yeah, poise and rationality.
David Isaacs: yeahha Learn something new every day. ah
The Big Dog: Yeah. Um... Yeah. No, no, it's much better to face these kind of things with a sense of poise and rationality.
The Big Dog: Um... god i've been listening to them for over 20 years it makes me feel old Like. They just had the Return to the Dome game for the... The, um...
The Big Dog: New Orleans Saints this past Thursday, right? Or is it Sunday? either way this past week Monday? Oh, yeah, yeah, Monday. Um, i remember when katrina happened and i remember going to school with a bunch of kids it wasn't i mean it wasn't like a huge it was like less than 10 of kids who were just kind of displaced from it And.
The Big Dog: It just felt really weird. I think that that happened over 20 years ago. I mean, obviously it was the... 25th anniversary of 9 -11 this past year so last month, actually. so I don't know. It just... ah It feels kind of weird to...
The Big Dog: reflect on those and you know Where my life has kind of gone since sunday because I was a sophomore junior in high school and that happened. Yeah.
David Isaacs: 9 -11 or Trina.
The Big Dog: Katrina, sorry.
David Isaacs: Alright, everyone do the math. How old is Ryan?
The Big Dog: do do do do Alright, pencils down. I'm 37.
The Big Dog: ah Wait, wait. oh we should edit that in post and then um Say, okay, you got 30 seconds. Let's time again. then click down the jeopardy final final jeopardy and then all right pencils down you may begin
David Isaacs: Yeah. Yeah I'll definitely do that.
The Big Dog: Okay.
David Isaacs: equipment
The Big Dog: Um...
David Isaacs: wish I wish I could, man. I wish. I do think the production quality of the... a Podcast is a little lacking. but
The Big Dog: It's... Audio only format. and I don't think that bit would have translated very well anyway. um Yeah, what else is going on with you, man? We got...
The Big Dog: For me, we got... her my wife's uncle is into he does like mason work so he's coming over and kind of fixing and sealing up or our porch before it gets too cold out. um are I had somebody out last year because I thought it would crack in our foundation, but it just turns out that our porch was built really.
The Big Dog: Uh... Shiddily. I think is a scientific word for that. Um, It's like. whenever i mean whenever they build a porch it's always going to be separate in some degree from Uh, There's always going to be some degree of separation from the wall or like the door. Well, ours kind of like just because the soil it sits on kind of like and also depending on like the weather, you just kind of like. Riffs back and forth.
The Big Dog: so he's going to kind of set and stabilize it and then kind of patch over everything um for a winner and then we're gonna We got to do some garden work here to grate everything away from the house. So we got. Kind of a...
The Big Dog: Busy weekend coming up. so Busy homeowner stuff.
David Isaacs: Yeah. I have a ah friend of mine that's looking at houses right now. and Yeah, it's kind of one of the things that he brought up of Yeah, I mean if something breaks it's on you.
David Isaacs: Herb. Trying to find time or prioritize. what needs fixing. and uh Yeah it's tough. So. Hopefully. You get that done and out of the way.
David Isaacs: but uh for me Something with like better help. uh so it's It's kind of. It's kind of fucked up. well first i was on a subscription which is like 260 a month And I was going through my HSAs. I'm like, all right, whatever.
David Isaacs: Didn't really have the drive to. try to figure out if I could get something cheaper. uh because i like my therapist and i'm like all right well that's a you know I'm paying more. but I've been working with this therapist for like 18 months.
David Isaacs: um
The Big Dog: Hmm.
David Isaacs: So I just click in and it said, oh yeah, check your availability for. insurance so i clicked on it And then all of a sudden, you know, she's out of network. They connect me with a different therapist. And the pricing was like. you know My copay was like $15 a session.
David Isaacs: and through better help it's like a subscription it doesn't matter like you can have Therapy is... much as you want. But I was only... You know, I've i've been doing like every couple of weeks for the past few months. So I was paying $260, which equates to like $130 a session.
David Isaacs: Whereas I could get it for, you know. $15 session. Um, But I didn't have the choice it just you know eligibility for insurance I clicked on it just curious and that you know switched me off my therapist my therapist didn't have any availability so I wasn't able to shoes are back.
David Isaacs: So. I found my therapist email and let her know about it and i sent a ah chat thing to better help So I was supposed to have my appointment this Friday. um But I switched back to the subscription service and they charged me 260 bucks, like right out of the gate.
David Isaacs: So. Um, one kind of fucked up. that. they don't have it in there that hey you're actually you know it's actually costing you a lot more to have a subscription service and by the way it's not based on the amount of sessions that you have it's just 260 a month And the second part is even switching off of that, they're probably thinking, oh, well, once somebody figures it out, they're not going to want to go back. well
David Isaacs: What am I as a consumer? That's not. using AI as my therapist and I'm getting. mic. It's causing more of an issue for me to pay more money.
David Isaacs: to continue to see my therapist. Uh... And yeah, it's just. pretty messed up. Um, So... Whoever works it better help. Fix it.
David Isaacs: Please. If this was a choice. to make it this way then that's pretty fucked up I don't appreciate it. But. Yeah, hopefully I can get it. figure it out. for.
David Isaacs: um supposed to meet my therapist on Friday.
The Big Dog: Yeah. um He was better hope. actually i was going through Boot camp, because my... At that time, my therapist Um...
The Big Dog: was we were just having a whole bunch of issues just trying to get my insurance pro - processed and like felt like every time I Was supposed to meet her for weekly it was Oh yeah, you're...
The Big Dog: was that at the time it was like Uh... I think it was priority health is what we had at the time. which is... I guess decent. But. um she's like yeah every time a session she's like oh yeah they still haven't paid out for like your last visit so i can't even really see you unless you wanted to pay cash and it's like 130 so it's like uh i'm good so i started using better help it's like 2022 and i think at the time like you could get You know, if you use like...
The Big Dog: Some. Cool. you know, name podcast promotion code. You could get it for like. I think it was like 120 bucks a month, but then I stopped using it until recently. And yeah, I saw that it skyrocketed to over $200. I was like, when the fuck did this happen?
The Big Dog: And like. You click the insurance option. and it They're like, oh, we're sorry. It only covers. part of your visit so it's like 230 per visit I'm like How does that make any sense?
The Big Dog: So...
David Isaacs: of
The Big Dog: i ended up using um
The Big Dog: uh what is this service called it's through blue cross blue shield um
The Big Dog: Doo, doo, doo, doo.
The Big Dog: uh i forget the name of it off the top of my head but i haven't used it in two months because They charge you. they're supposed to charge you your Um... your copay per the visit but there are some times where like they just i don't know whatever happens to the billing cycle ah they'll charge you like the full amount of the service and like i've been fighting back and forth with them for like the last two and a half months of like
The Big Dog: yo you charged me 120 for this visit it's only supposed to be 20 my previous three visits were paying that they're like oh yeah well sometimes just because of like happen to fall on a holiday like sometimes things like that get wonky and you know it could take up to 60 days the process well we're like going on like almost 90 days and i still haven't gotten any money for a refund so yeah it's annoying like you're just like trying to not be crazy yet their billing cycle or their billing
The Big Dog: methods drive you crazy. than you need. to go with therapy for said going crazy so it's like this huge cycle of i'm poor and i can't see you But that's making me depressed. So I need to see you, you know.
The Big Dog: Weird dichotomy.
David Isaacs: Yeah.
David Isaacs: Shit. ah Yeah, I don't know. But... And and i in any case, like... Yeah. is Bye.
David Isaacs: Me being a consumer wanting to actually speak to somebody knowing and that it's better than just talking to AI which is gonna agree with me. You know, I want some actual human involvement.
David Isaacs: So now I have to pay $260 a month. or I can pay less but not have the same therapist because they're not in network. which I'll probably switch over. um you know maybe near the end of the year Just a...
David Isaacs: try to be a little bit more cost effective. And the fact that it's charged based on visit and not charged based on, you know, just that month you have to pay $260. um And... Speaking of AI and healthcare, care I've heard that our healthcare premiums are expected to go up like 10 % next year.
David Isaacs: One because coverage for... people using semi -glutides. So now that that has been incorporated there. putting that into their cost model.
David Isaacs: to increase insurance premiums. And two, because... Hospitals are now using AI. to try to charge insurance for more things.
David Isaacs: Um... So basically like upselling you on services. that you may or may not need. or just including them as light items when they bill your insurance.
David Isaacs: And then insurance is using AI. to try to not have to pay out for those things. so That is part of the reason why the healthcare premiums are going up.
David Isaacs: um since ai was expected to make things better but there's apparently a War? between... healthcare providers and insurance companies on what they need to pay for.
David Isaacs: and what they can charge for. So everything is going up. Because... they're using AI and trying to game the system even more.
The Big Dog: oh Nice. Yeah, our... I don't know if it's for the same reason, and I hope our insurance doesn't go up. again because uh,
The Big Dog: Yeah, my... My insurance is. previous year shot up. I think. I don't know if it was... No, it had to have been because... um Yeah, it was I think our insurance went up 10 % this past year because I got a raise in December. and That. healthcare costs would have wiped out. and started eating into my pockets.
The Big Dog: uh if i didn't if that If my... VP didn't give me just like a What do you call it? Life change or change of life cost of living cost of living uh increase to my page to help Pay for that?
The Big Dog: Um, I saw this really nice of him. Didn't even ask for that. but So that means that if that... If... Our insurance, my insurance goes up again 10%. That means it's gone up 20 % for the same coverage in two years, which is. insane.
David Isaacs: Yep.
David Isaacs: I don't know man. It's... yeah it's not looking good
The Big Dog: Yeah, it feels like the more um The younger generation, our generation. that coming generations and next generations which I've been watching on. Paramount.
The Big Dog: um Star Trek The Next Generation, that is. um yeah i mean we're all skeptical of ai you know it's like Every time I feel like I interact with somebody.
The Big Dog: Or is he somebody who posts? a like ah a fake bot account post some sort of ai content it's always like there's always some amount of context of like why the ai slop and this is why we hate ai Um,
The Big Dog: Yeah, it may make like... some people's lives and jobs easier, but like. At what cost? You know, it's like we're. soaking up our drinking water so they can keep ah servers and all that and all its microchips cool.
David Isaacs: thank you
The Big Dog: we're diverting our valuable resources to this just so what you're... Your mom can make some cute picture of herself as a bunny. like Neat.
The Big Dog: Like... I really hope the people who are. working on these. data centers like take the money because i've heard for especially for contractors electricians and plumbers it's like they're making like Per job, they're making three or four times what they were on a regular basis.
The Big Dog: Um... So I hope like. They get that money and, you know. They built some sort of small defect into these, these data centers. So, you know, a Luke Skywalker type person can fucking blow it up like the Death Star.
David Isaacs: i'll just You start out by like... claiming that it's going to replace all white collar work. And you're what you're basically saying is that if you run a job, you need to start incorporating AI because...
David Isaacs: Your competitors are going to, you know. They're going to be fast track to replace. Oh. ton of expense by just using AI. so that everyone needs to integrate with it. Um, you know continuing to make promises they can't keep but Really it was expected to... you know help us with more drug discoveries help us cure cancer Help us, you know.
David Isaacs: get a better grip on global warming how that's affecting our planet how what can we do to actually you know try to reverse it as much as we can. um but And then with the whole robot thing.
David Isaacs: and now with the whole healthcare thing as to why healthcare care is going up. Because they're using AI to try to... you know, see what they can charge for and insurance companies are seeing what they don't have to pay for.
David Isaacs: So it's not making. anyone's life any better. and at the same time the people that control our 401ks are using funny money to try to fund you know, these build outs.
David Isaacs: And. trying to invade townships and cities and counties. with these data centers that no one wants. that Good. the one in saline got shot down and they sued the city so then the city council just like rolled over on it and they say you know they're going to have all these regulations and they can't take our water and they're going to have to use their own electricity. and all this stuff but
David Isaacs: it we've We've seen this play out however many times when the people in power with people with the money, if they want something done, they're going to find a way to skirt around. any of the rules to get it done.
David Isaacs: End. In any sense, it's like not. good for society not good environmentally not good for people's mental health if they're Talking to it too much not good for you know, the development of our younger generation and being able to develop, you know, these problem solving skills.
David Isaacs: Um, And yeah, the problem with trust of just. you know trusting the output on things which I did fall victim to at work today because I said I don't think something exists after I you know, use AI to scan all of our snowflake tables. but um Yeah, it's just not in any sense like good for the common person.
David Isaacs: but the powers that be don't care about the common person. and They haven't for so long, so my only hope is that. you know this kind of opens up people's eyes and Makes them realize that.
David Isaacs: Oracle is firing a bunch of people to... to fund some of this build out. which is literally just they're hoping that it can replace people.
David Isaacs: and that's why they're doing it it's the only way that it makes sense financially if they can get they can start charging enough and companies are willing to lay people off to allow AI to take over and take care of things.
The Big Dog: Yeah. it's It's like the cost of... well they they're like even incorporating ai into video games like they're incorporating it in their entire design and character models and things. and the So many things are...
The Big Dog: would just look terrible and I know that. The Hauser brothers quit. Um... Rockstar and they've been with they created a company and, you know, and a part of it for real.
The Big Dog: if not over or close to 30 years because like i didn't agree with Rockstar and was it? 2k games um philosophy that we need uh include ai so like it's just like seeping its way into every facet of our lives and like no one asked for this like Yeah, it makes... certain aspects of my job be easier but it also like It's also things they still have to double track and like.
The Big Dog: you know you start doing the math of like if i really do this and just love it on my own Um. you know. without having to or is it the same amount of time if i do it myself or if i have this do it and i have to double check you know like
The Big Dog: there's I guess there's good and and bad, but I think it's the... Bad mostly outweighs the good. Um, As like you stated, like. Environmental.
The Big Dog: mental health for our generations because there are people who are addicted to AI like And... i guess i didn't know this and until recently i mean obviously before this podcast so like people are using it for for for therapist visits like i mean i know you were talking about that earlier but it's like that's very disturbing because it's these AI models are basically designed to compliment you and...
The Big Dog: I'm like. they'll give you the answer that's best suited for you but it does that doesn't necessarily make it the the best answer for your growth as a person so just like a yes man it's having a yes agent all the time and That's not good for your ego and that's not good for your social skills.
The Big Dog: So it's like.
David Isaacs: Yeah.
The Big Dog: you know. And Trump is... saying that like we need to keep developing all of these AI. and ai models and building all these data centers data centers as part of the defense but it's like where does it end you know like what what is the end goal Because if it's for national security, I don't i don't buy that at all.
The Big Dog: If you think like... but The thing about hacking and it's like the difference between like somebody and I and like an actual hacker is. most of that social engineering like are you gonna like really stop like your co -worker susie from opening up a suspicious email because those are getting more aggressive by the way maybe it's the help from ai that they're able to deploy these and they're much more targeted but People are still going to get hacked. Cybersecurity jobs, I'm surprised, have not been able to keep up with.
The Big Dog: the demand that they're going to be needed maybe it's again it's just like a cost thing for companies that they're trying to eliminate Because, I mean, that is the company's biggest. overhead is is payroll.
The Big Dog: And if... You know, we're all going to become. some sort of ai overseer or supervisor or architect for all these ai models doing work then You know, like there's no transition there. like we're racing to build a ah technology no one fully understands oh and by the way as part of the whistleblowing scheme um they're saying that ai is sometimes refusing to shut down so it's like We are really marching towards Skynet.
The Big Dog: No joke. You know, it's like. Why they keep pushing this because they feel like it's like a modern day nuclear arms race.
The Big Dog: It's almost like. The we'll call them poor people the the 99 % that You know, we're not the 1%. Rise up and blow, you know, just blow these things to kingdom come but I'm not gonna advocate for violence on this podcast. um
David Isaacs: i will
The Big Dog: Okay, fair enough. Uh, oh.
David Isaacs: no ah We don't. advocate violence here. Not against our...
The Big Dog: No, not in this dojo.
David Isaacs: Not against her. 1 % overloads.
The Big Dog: Yeah. Um... But yeah, I mean it's it's it is generally baffling and how. Companies are...
The Big Dog: especially with how the You know, the White House has been over the last. Let's shoot. Two years year and a half whatever almost going on two years has been this.
The Big Dog: bombastic and
The Big Dog: i don't know whatever getting away from my point is that no one asked for ai and Like. Would I miss it? If they took away F... The key was to just remove AI.
The Big Dog: Totally. Would I had be? Better off for it. Yeah, I would absolutely throw away anything. in regards to to T -A -N, and I ain't even bat an eyelash about it.
David Isaacs: Yeah.
The Big Dog: So...
David Isaacs: Um, The only difference really now is like... Yeah, people are scared. You know, there. being forced to use it. Um, if you have anything against it. Like. you're just Um,
David Isaacs: you're kind of in the way you know You're not seen as somebody that wants to increase their productivity. but What I've noticed is that... Um... You know.
David Isaacs: The idea of what good enough is like is grown so massively.
David Isaacs: There is like that disconnect with, oh, can we just ask Claude to do this? and like That's... you know to me is really Annoying. because I mean, if you do like A -B testing, like me as a subject matter expert on any particular topic and then you have somebody else try to use it.
David Isaacs: Like. Bad. has very little knowledge on the subject matter. Like you're going to come to two completely different.
David Isaacs: but solutions to what you're trying to ask what you're trying to ascertain But I think that's really just the disconnect. in that we... Can do more least At least that. my job i have access to claude and i can do more with it but the it's also risen the expectations of what I should be able to deliver.
David Isaacs: Um... and with how fast you ship something how fast that you can get something together like It's really the last like 1%. I think. of Like all the decisions, all the concessions that I had to make because the data isn't like the cleanest or.
David Isaacs: you know how do i do a calculation for something like what do i include what do i not include Um, I feel like that is still... you know what i try to get shining through Like there's a lot of...
David Isaacs: you know small decisions that come from any there's bunch of small decisions that add up. that can make. What you asked for.
David Isaacs: you know have a completely different answer. And, yeah, I mean, it's really just that kind of disconnect, I think, that... you know at least for me is kind of annoying But... at the same time there's probably a lot of smaller companies that you know might not have had someone to be able to do some of the things that they wanted to do.
David Isaacs: you know, revamp their webpage. get better about tracking their data. be better about marketing. or something. So I definitely feel like it can help some people out in just the general sense and be more competitive. but Um,
David Isaacs: yeah when it comes down to are you Are you really going to be able to? So. not be as stressed or be able to offload like i I don't really.
David Isaacs: allow it to think for me. you know, I come to it with a Mostly baked idea. and if it was just a sql query then i'm like all right let's put together a dashboard based on this data don't really start from zero.
David Isaacs: But I feel like that might be the trap that people get into. Or if you've not been to therapy and then you try to use it as your therapist, then yeah, you're probably going to have. you know a different experience or something and Maybe somebody that can't.
David Isaacs: afford to go to therapy maybe that's the best that they can get I don't. really know like morality wise if I would say yay or nay to it. but It is. opened up a lot of different discussions i don't think that you know The environmental impact that it's having right now is...
David Isaacs: worth the output that it's delivering i don't think that we should be using it to I've heard like grandparents are really big into making AI. pictures of their grandchildren now. and going to like Staples to print them out.
David Isaacs: I don't know how true it is, but it's something that I've heard. like I don't think that's a good use case for it. But. really like if we had Something that was benefiting society as a whole.
David Isaacs: and one of the Um... One of the drawbacks is, well, you know, it actually isn't. very good environmentally. Um, they're data centers are very loud and they take up a bunch of water and they're going to raise people's electricity, I think.
David Isaacs: um you know, and kind of depending on where you put them at. but as a society as a whole i mean if we were willing to accept like you know, we're going to roll out this AI. It's not going to take your jobs. We're going to use it to make the world a better place than I think everyone, if that was the truth and not, you know, some.
David Isaacs: some fake gibberish. I think that would be more wildly accepted, but right now it's not making. anybody's life. easier. Um, And I don't know if it'll ever get to the point where it's.
David Isaacs: you know. hyper intelligent enough to Allow us to. live in this utopia or you know, if the 1 % have their way. it seems like they've wanted to do for a while is just kind of have, you know.
David Isaacs: this feudalistic state. Yeah. It seems like they're trying to find any solution that gets them to what they want. Even though we know. It's not. you know, 100%.
David Isaacs: going to be able to get them there, but they're they're
David Isaacs: They're coughing up the money. They're turning over every ah Turning over every rock to try to find a way to get there And that's the most concerning part to me.
The Big Dog: Yeah. there're
The Big Dog: Um, Yeah, and it's like back to the... the video game thing like Um... Not that this has been any different from how the video game industry has been, but a lot of these video game companies will hire contract employees and you know for work on this project. for you know whatever five six seven years but And then they'd lay him off. I mean, that's not anything.
The Big Dog: new. Um... you know and then you keep a small core team for its like updates and things like that but Now the... The cuts are getting deeper. uh the core team is getting smaller because you know again ai is incorporated so and i think that Amen.
The Big Dog: Because there's such a generational gap between senior... level developers and like companies Companies are already like... turning way even before the you know the a presence of AI are always.
The Big Dog: skeptical to hire junior developers. um and you know you and i experienced this pretty significantly in our our job hunts um
The Big Dog: But now they're they're just. Using AI, it's tough. you know, the core members with their productivity, but you know if they're keeping less skilled talent. Who? may rely heavily on ai and you know it's just like the product itself is going to get hurt so really the quality and the um Creativity that you get from like a human being.
The Big Dog: It's going out the window now
David Isaacs: Yeah.
The Big Dog: so Um... You know, I worry about that with, like, my my kid. my Luckily, our school is. Very.
The Big Dog: hands -on approach to when it comes to education uh at least thus far you know um i mean obviously Our governor signed that phones phones are banned in the classroom anyway.
The Big Dog: Um... You know, but I saw it. still makes me worry about We already have. things to worry about in often as a parent With, you know...
The Big Dog: keeping our kids keeping our kids alive and functioning make sure they're getting good marks in school now and you know bullying now it's like we have to worry about them getting Addicted to... potentially ai like it's Crazy world we live in.
David Isaacs: Yeah. Definitely. I mean things are changing. and or what seems like not. for the better. unfortunately unfortunately the best that we can do is Try to be a... you know, good friend, a good neighbor.
David Isaacs: a good family member.
The Big Dog: Yeah, it's a... It's definitely... Always will be in. or has always has been and always will be should be about community whether it's Gaming, you know.
The Big Dog: Just like... your actual physical community, you know family, friends, all that. Um... You know, you should work to to better each other and, you know, through camaraderie. and All that and not rely on technology to be our...
The Big Dog: provider so
The Big Dog: think that's all.
David Isaacs: All right. Um... Anything else, closing? statements, arguments, questions.
The Big Dog: definitely not arguments um but I know I'm also
David Isaacs: Sorry, a little bit. corrupt, but I just realized I got it. Log back into work. You know, or else AI is going to take my job. so
The Big Dog: There you go.
David Isaacs: ah Thanks for talking, Ryan. It's nice to hear from you.
The Big Dog: Yes.
David Isaacs: Anyone? is listening thank you for making it all the way through the episode i hope you enjoyed the conversation And we will see you next week.
The Big Dog: Later, everybody.
