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Episode 98: Do I Have To Respect An Astronaut?
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This week Garrett and Derrick are chatting about the Royal Rumble, GCW's Just Being Honest, respect for astronauts, theme park war stories and more!
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Episode Introduction & Blooper
00:00:35
Speaker
Hey everybody and welcome to episode 98 of Predetermined, your favorite weekly pro wrestling hangout. I'm your host, Garret Callender. And I'm your other host, Derek Halpin. Just so you guys know, when I tried to record this intro in one try, the number that came out of my mouth was 69. I don't know. Didn't feel good about it. I should have just left that blooper in.
00:00:59
Speaker
You went to Florida over the weekend and your mind is apparently sleeping in the gutter the whole time. Is that what happens in Florida? I guess so.
Garret's Florida Trip & NASA Adventures
00:01:08
Speaker
No, I went there for my mom's birthday and as a family I went and looked at some spaceships. How was that? You're never too old to look at some spaceships with your family, I'll tell you that right now. I've never been to Florida before, Garrett, but I will tell you I'm really into space shit.
00:01:28
Speaker
meaning all sorts of space related things, not shit from space. Oh no, they talked about shit in space. We went to an astronaut encounter at NASA, got to listen to an old man. I say old man, that's disrespectful.
00:01:45
Speaker
I'm trying to understand why on this particular subject you have decided to correct yourself and rein yourself in because you don't want to be disrespectful to an astronaut that for certain is not listening to this podcast. You never know. I don't even remember his name. This is also very disrespectful because I think we're supposed to really like appreciate a spaceman.
00:02:08
Speaker
Are we supposed to look at people who go to space in the exact same way you look at somebody who went overseas and served in the military? I think so. I think they want me to think that. Nobody ever has these kinds of discussions. I know that you're supposed to respect astronauts. And I know that most astronauts are former Air Force pilots, right? Is that how that works? I don't think anyone can make you go to space, though.
00:02:39
Speaker
No, I don't think so. I understand respecting servicemen, but a spaceman is like, I respect it, but do I have to be respectful?
00:02:51
Speaker
I will say, as much as I love space topics, I would never willingly go into outer space, would you? No, not even, no. Not too scary. Yeah, absolutely. No one can hear you scream. There's no pro wrestling. What is even upside down?
00:03:11
Speaker
Tony Khan has a lot of money. We might be able to have the first wrestling match on the moon. Who would you book for the first ever space match? Well, you fucking know Moxley would be down for that. Oh, it'd just be Moxley versus Darby Allen again. We got a space death match.
00:03:27
Speaker
That skateboard would be useless in space. He would just ollie forever. You try to do a spot off a ladder and you just float off into the distance.
Astronauts & Space Humor
00:03:37
Speaker
Well, the reason, sorry, the reason I disrespected the astronaut a little bit is there was a Q&A with an astronaut and everybody was asking questions. And at the end of the Q&A, they said, this astronaut's going to be outside and you can take a picture with this astronaut, but no autographs.
00:03:55
Speaker
They specified this astronaut will not give you an autograph. But he will take a picture. He'll take a picture. That's fine. But as he's walking by, I watched the most adorable little kid in like a space helmet. Like this seemed like a thing out of a movie. It felt like a sketch. Goes up to this astronaut with a pen and a paper. Mr. Angry astronaut looks down and just goes, no. What?
00:04:24
Speaker
I don't think that's how that scene's supposed to play out. No, it looked like it was gonna be from a heartwarming movie, but it ended up being from a pretty good comedy. Hank, the angry astronaut. That's what I'm naming this. He, this astronaut in your story, is Hank. He showed us a picture of a space toilet and how you strap your legs in so that the poos don't sneak up under you and come up to your face. It seems like that's something that you would put in your household.
00:04:55
Speaker
You. Me personally, like that's a problem. After having dairy, yeah. So the situations in which you have consumed dairy, you need a space toilet.
00:05:06
Speaker
You know, I went to Wendy's, had a frosty dairy dessert, and then that happened.
Universal Studios & The Rock
00:05:14
Speaker
Well, what else did you get out of the year weekend in Florida for your mother's birthday? It wasn't all without wrestling. We went to Universal Studios, and I got to ride the Fast and Furious ride starring Dwayne The Rock Johnson.
00:05:29
Speaker
Like he introduces the ride? Oh, he's in the ride. He's part of the ride. He's in the video in the ride, hanging off a shit. He's yelling at you. Does he do any rock mannerisms? I don't know, Derek. I was very disappointed in this ride. Have you ever just been too excited for something? Garrett, I think that's a you problem. You think that it's a well, my problem was going into that ride. I was the most excited I had ever been to go on a ride in my entire life.
00:06:00
Speaker
And it was a video ride and I ended up sitting next to like a pillar so I couldn't really see a lot of the video. So that's how you tied your fucking universal studios experience into wrestling as you saw Dwayne The Rock Johnson for a couple of seconds. Yeah. I also, uh, went on the Transformers ride. I don't know if a lot of people know this. My first job when I moved to LA was I was a army man on the Transformers ride.
00:06:30
Speaker
Are there pictures of you in your army costume? There is a picture of me standing behind Michael Bay in an army man costume. Why haven't I seen this? I don't advertise this much. This was a time in my life that
00:06:46
Speaker
I was, uh, I was an army man fighting with robots every day and goddamn- Well, you've come a long way since then, so send me the picture and we'll get that up on our fucking social media because the people need to see this. I had a mustache soul patch at this time. Um, God, that was actually the first job that I ever- this was the first time I ever had anxiety was at that job.
00:07:06
Speaker
It's just an endless stream of cattle, Derek. An endless stream. An endless stream of cattle anxiety? Of people. Your hand in 3D glasses to people and they never stop coming all day. It's just endless. It's like being a mailman. The mail never stops.
00:07:25
Speaker
I'm sorry to bring up things from your past that apparently haunt you, but going back, you're not getting out of this. I want to see the picture. I know our listeners want to see the picture. Oh, I'll find a picture. I'll definitely find it. It's on my Facebook for sure. We want to see what it would look like if Garrett was an army main gimmick in pro wrestling.
00:07:42
Speaker
I think there is also a picture of me having to clean a pot of cheese while wearing an army man outfit. But can I tell you the most horrific thing that happened while I was on army duty? At nest? What happened on army duty? So while I was at army...
00:08:02
Speaker
I had to pass out the 3D glasses and like this is not funny like this was like I felt very bad about this but I was passing out 3D glasses and I turned to hand this man 3D glasses and he was about a quarter of an inch away from my face and Derek his face was blank he had nothing it was a blank face like no features nothing smooth like Voldemort
00:08:29
Speaker
Go into more detail. You're not painting the whole picture. I know this story, Garrett. No ears. No eyes. There were eyes. There were eyes. But I was holding a handful of 3D glasses and when he turned and was right in my face, all of the 3D glasses go flying everywhere. You can call that dramatic if you like, but he really snuck up on me.
00:08:56
Speaker
So he had eyes, but was he blind? No, I don't think so. So why the fuck was he so close to your face? If his eyesight wasn't gone, then he clearly had like an idea of how close he should be to somebody. He had clearly had a very, very bad accident that I feel very bad about and that it happened. But please don't sneak up on people.
00:09:21
Speaker
You wouldn't enjoy that if it was somebody who had like a non-damaged face. No, I don't like being snuck up on. Just in general. Garrett doesn't like when you reach for him. I've seen him fucking duck and dive and dodge.
00:09:36
Speaker
just from me reaching out to put my hand on his shoulder. He assumes I'm going to hit him. Can I tie this back into wrestling real quick? Yeah, let's go. Another day having a real bad day. I got to yell at people, though, as an army man because they could consider it to be in character. And I turned to yell at the next person having a terrible day. It was Fred Durst.
00:09:57
Speaker
I immediately. I'm just now hearing this story. I immediately stopped like being mad. I think like I stopped yelling and just started laughing and was like, get on the ride, Fred Durs. Did you say that? I didn't. But like there was a definite me turning to scream at him and him making eye contact with me and realizing like this guy knows who I am. Does it make you laugh knowing that Fred Durs for a moment was probably thinking, wow, this guy takes his job really seriously.
00:10:29
Speaker
God, I hope not. You've had one interaction with Fred Durst and that was it. You were in character as an army man, which you are nothing like in real life. Don't tell me how many interactions I've had with Fred Durst. It's been
Podcast Milestone Celebration
00:10:41
Speaker
two. As it? Yeah. Once he was eating brunch with a fuckwad. For those who don't know, Fred Durst is the lead singer of Limp Biscuit. I'm sure most people know that.
00:10:53
Speaker
for those listening to the pro wrestling podcast that don't know who Fred Durst is. You never know. We could have some new listeners. We could have some people who used to watch some older wrestling who have no idea who that is. I don't know why anyone listens at this point. This podcast is nonsense, Derek. We're coming up on... First of all, let's be clear. We're coming up on episode 100. And this week, Garrett,
00:11:21
Speaker
We are celebrating our second birthday. Two years, baby. Two years of this podcast being around and entertaining the masses. Welcome to the terrible twos. You thought we were bad at one. We're gonna be saying all the bad words in year two. Is your dad still listening? Oh yeah, he listens. Oh goodness.
00:11:50
Speaker
We made it Bruce. We're on our second year anniversary. Baby boy is turned two years old today again. I'm proud of the work that we've done Garrett. No need to be negative. No need to say the terrible twos. What about the terrific twos?
00:12:11
Speaker
Is that a thing? It is now. So we're going for the terrific twos. Yeah, we're doing the terrific twos right now as we approach episode 100. There may be some more surprises along the way. David Arquette's replacing me. If I just got a text
00:12:31
Speaker
Who would I get a text for? Who would be the liaison to inform me? Garrett's no longer doing the podcast with you, but hey, it's David Arquette. Would it be Courtney Cox? No, of course not. It's ridiculous that you would ask that. Would it be a family member? Yeah, of course, yeah. It would probably be like Jungle Boy or something.
00:12:54
Speaker
Jungle Boys a family member? Well, I think they were good buddies. His dad helped carry David Arquette to the car to take him to the hospital. Oh, I thought you met a family member of yours. I was talking about a family member of yours. Oh, no, I thought you met a family member. I was like, Jungle Boys related to you? How well do you think the transition would be with you and David Arquette? Do you think it could be just seamless? I think it would be fantastic.
00:13:21
Speaker
I can tell you're a little upset with that answer. You wanted me to say, Garrett, it just wouldn't be the same without you and it wouldn't. But, you know, we're going for the terrific twos and David, our cat was a never been kissed. So get that motherfucker in
Royal Rumble Highlights
00:13:38
Speaker
here. He was also in like your favorite horror film series as a kid, which was Scream. Loved those movies still do. Do you really? I do. I have a soft spot for Scream. I'll watch those movies every once in a while.
00:13:53
Speaker
During the 90s, that was like the last stand for the Slasher flick. Yeah, I really liked the Slasher flick, but you know what else I love? What? Whatever you're about to tell me, because we're going back into that segment called Say Something Nice and the Drizzle in Chits. Hey! Week two of this new segment. And I get to be Captain Positive this week and you get to be a Negative Nancy.
00:14:20
Speaker
hit me with it. What do you got? What, what makes you happy this week? Oh, as far as fucking positivity. Um, well, obviously here later in the episode, we will address the Royal rumble because a lot of people talking about it. So we'll, we'll, we'll dive into the details of the Royal rumble this past weekend. But I do want to comment on Monday night raw.
00:14:44
Speaker
I watched, over the span of a few days, I watched Friday Night SmackDown last week, I watched The Royal Rumble on Sunday, and I watched Monday Night Raw. Wrap your mind around that. I've done a full fucking week of WWE programming for the first time in a long time. You did something that we normally just did every week on the first year of this podcast.
00:15:10
Speaker
Um, and it's been so long since I've stayed up until like 10 PM to see the end of raw. Usually I can get like an hour and a half, two hours in. I'm like, I think I've got my fill. This is good. I'm done. But because edge was about to do his segment where he announces that he was back and everything, I decided this was worth staying up for. And I'm interested to see what the ratings were because I think a lot of people will have probably said the same thing. The ending segment for Monday night. Raw this week was fucking fantastic.
00:15:40
Speaker
And if you haven't, go back and watch this because this is WWE programming at its finest. Maybe one of the best segments they have produced in years. No joke. We remember how emotional the Daniel Bryan comeback was a couple of years ago. This was
00:16:01
Speaker
They didn't give him as much time to do that, but they gave him time to address the fact that he was back and that... Here's the thing, we all know that the neck injury and all of that's real. So that plays a huge part into kind of... Do you remember how like when Brian came back for a while, every time he took a bump, it was scary? Oh yeah, it's honestly still like that sometimes with him.
00:16:27
Speaker
Well, it's going to be that same way for Edge. And even like the Rumble comeback, spoiler alert, if you didn't know, Edge came back during the Royal Rumble. And that was scary, watching him take bumps in that match. But this segment with Edge where he announces that he couldn't live thinking what if for the rest of his life and after being away from wrestling for nine years, he went and got another neck surgery, started working out, getting back in shape, best shape of his life.
00:16:55
Speaker
And the doctors have cleared him. And he's back to wrestle. He listed off a bunch of names of guys on the roster. But he, in particular, pointed out Randy Orton, who he had a moment with in the Rumble. Orton comes out, and this heartfelt emotional thing about their past and all the times they've spent together. And Orton brings up, bringing back rated RKO as a team. Gets a huge pop from the crowd. Boom. Orton RKO's him turns heel.
00:17:25
Speaker
gets a steel chair, whacks him across the back, and then does the one-man concerto with the chair under his head and slams the other chair across his neck and his head. And Edge's hand is like twitching. And the thing is, you go back and you watch the segment, everyone in the crowd is fucking horrified. The thing is, they know they're watching pro wrestling, but again, because the neck injury is real,
00:17:53
Speaker
Because he's made it clear over the last several years that spinal stenosis is no injury to fuck with. It just feels so real and it's so scary and the audience is sucked in and the segment felt so... There was such that bad vibes. It was such good heal heat.
00:18:15
Speaker
The segment was so well done, and everyone is just certain that Orton has just killed Edge. And I gotta tip my hat to WWE. The cliche is that the Royal Rumble is the road to WrestleMania, it's where it starts. And this definitely, I will echo the sentiments of a lot of other people. This felt like a WrestleMania building moment.
00:18:41
Speaker
fantastic main event segment. If you haven't, like I said, go back, watch it. Fucking well done. My mind was blown. I'm excited. I'm excited for more WWE shows in the next week. That's how well it was done. So that's my say something nice. Good job, WWE. You have me hooked back in. Honestly, that makes me happy to hear you say that it doesn't feel right when you're down on WWE. Cause you know,
00:19:09
Speaker
Or either of us, really, because it's a show we grew up watching, we grew up loving in the last couple of years. Maybe you didn't love it as much. There's been ups and downs with WWE since we started this podcast and a lot of downs recently.
GCW Critiques & Praise
00:19:26
Speaker
Pro wrestling's like a rollercoaster. There's a lot of ups and a lot of downs. Yeah. Strikes and gutters. I don't think Mrs. Ideas said that. No, but the big Lebowski did.
00:19:40
Speaker
Garrett, I hate to put this burden on you, but what is, in your opinion, the drizzling shits this week? The drizzling shits. The drizzling shits. Oh man, that would be such a good band name. Ooh. Did you already say that last week? I feel like you might have. I think I made that joke. I think Derek and the drizzling shits. I, for one, would love to be a drizzling shit.
00:20:10
Speaker
No, Garrett, what sucks this week? What's the drizzling shits? There's something that bugs me. It's bugged me for weeks. I've brought it up on here before, but like, what the fuck, guys? And believe it or not, this is gonna come from something that GCW's doing.
00:20:26
Speaker
Really? Yeah. Why is Matthew Justice taking so many fucking unprotected headshots with a chair? Every show. Every, every show. It's like one of his moves. One of his moves is just no selling headshots. Stop it. What's your fucking endgame? This is like the whole crowd chant CTE at this point. It's like, oh, Matthew Justice is really going to get whacked in the head on this one. Why?
00:20:55
Speaker
The drizzling shits to you because you don't think that a guy's brains legitimately getting scrambled as good entertainment? Like I can watch a guy get cut up all day. He can heal from that. But the damage that this dude is doing to his brain and like I heard that this is a guy that had a WWE tryout or like maybe was signed for a minute and it didn't work. So he's trying to reinvent himself on the end. He's this mad man.
00:21:24
Speaker
But where is that gonna get him besides just super fucked up? I hate watching it happen. He's a fine wrestler, but I just hate watching the chair shots to the head. It makes me cringe.
00:21:38
Speaker
I think it's wild because I know how much you love a lot of the hardcore product that GCW puts out. And I think you're right to a large extent that, you know, cuts and scratches and stuff like that, you know, glass can be dug out of flesh. You know, you can be sewn up and stitched up. But brain damage is for life, bro. Like, I'm glad that you were a concern.
00:22:05
Speaker
I'm like, yeah, I like you Matthew justice. There's times that I think I don't, but that's also because you're just getting fucking smashed in the head. Stop it. What do you need? I'm gonna give you a goddamn spanking. It's just wild because when we went to two cups stuffed, you definitely sat front row for a guy taking a light tube up under the armpit and cutting an artery and damn near dying.
00:22:34
Speaker
You also, before that show, got to have a moment with Marcus Crane, who just got back from Japan and was doing a bunch of brutal shit over there, and now he's in a rough situation too. Should we plug helping out Marcus Crane again?
00:22:52
Speaker
Yeah, we should find his GoFundMe page. And once again, still throw Marcus Crane a few bucks. He also has that show coming up. He was going to hit the Marcus Crane's Bondage-a-Go-Go WrestleMania weekend. I'm just saying, what I was getting at was you have sat through some brutal wrestling. A lot of light tubes, a lot of other foreign objects. But like you said, that's different than getting your brain scrambled.
00:23:23
Speaker
And Garrett, Garrett, that's, I guess legitimate brain injury is enough to make your drizzling shits list. Yeah, I see. I thought maybe that was questionable. Like maybe I'm supposed to find something that's a botch and be like, well, that was just a terrible match. But I want to let, I want to let Matthew justice. No, I think that's the drizzling shit. Stop getting smashed in the face, my man. You sound a little like Jim Cornette in here.
00:23:48
Speaker
Well, goddamn! I don't even know how Jim Cornette sounds. I just, I'm in my head. That seems like something he would also be upset about, but we agree. You're basically getting head trauma for no money.
00:24:04
Speaker
I don't know what amount of money would make it worth it, but yeah, I'm sorry, that I feel like I, that's all I've got to say about that, Derek. It's a fair thing to be, that's fine. I'm guessing what you got this from is did you watch the most recent GCW pay-per-view? I did. At this point, I don't even know if you call it a pay-per-view or like they're almost weekly at this point.
00:24:26
Speaker
I was going to ask, it feels like they're happening all the time from my end. They've gotten so big now that they're somewhere different almost every single weekend. I mean, so the last weekend they were in LA this coming weekend, they're spending the next, what is it like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, they're doing death matches in Japan. Like they are all over the place all the time now.
00:24:49
Speaker
You a proud Papa Bear? Yes. Why would you ask me that? I wanted to hear it. But no, this was another great show. There was a six man tag in this where I didn't know most of the guys in it. It was a Gringo Loco, Adrian Quest, Eli Everfly, Matt Vandegriff, Slice Boogie, and Starboy Charlie, which looks like a child, but not like in a marker. Starboy Charlie. Starboy Charlie.
00:25:19
Speaker
Like Derek in the creative room heard that name in his ears perked up Well, who is this star boy Charlie he looks like he's 13 but not bring him to me Come on Charlie sit up on Papa's knee Charlie
00:25:49
Speaker
I'm pretty sure part of these guys were coming from the wrestling school in LA. I think it's the Santino brothers wrestling school and this six man match
00:26:00
Speaker
these guys went so fucking hard that i was cringing at so many things like clearly they knew they were at gcw and wanted to make a name for themselves and i really wanted to message you and tell you to watch this match and i forgot to but
00:26:16
Speaker
I recommend it to everyone else. Just watch six guys, most of which you haven't heard of. Just walking past me right to our listeners now. I actually looked past my imaginary you that I stare at, which is currently a Funko Pop of Kevin Owens. That works. I'm not even joking. I 100% believe you. Sending you a picture of my current view.
00:26:51
Speaker
So go back to your GCW pay-per-view. Okay, let's see. Jimmy Lloyd had a match against Joey Ryan, which it was fun seeing Joey Ryan show up at another GCW show. And he started it out by saying who he was trained. He's like, I was trained by Daniel Bryan. You were trained by, I don't remember who Jimmy Lloyd was trained by. But he goes, everybody thinks that I'm just the dick guy. Everybody thinks you're just a garbage wrestler.
00:27:18
Speaker
Which I thought, or what did he say, hardcore garbage wrestler? He's like, why don't we prove to these people that we can do something, something, you know, good. And they had a really good grappling match for quite a while until it, you know, eventually the dick came into play and then it just became the match that you wanted it to be.
00:27:38
Speaker
We know what you paid for the other like we just wanted to show you that this could be a memorable match without us leaving the ring But now we're gonna leave the ring I'm gonna ask a question and maybe it's a dumb question to ask at this point Maybe the answer is already out there. Maybe I should have already known Garrett, but has Joey Ryan dick tossed somebody into light tubes and
00:28:04
Speaker
I know he's done it and I want to say Legos. I don't think light tubes. And nobody has mentioned this spot to him as a possibility. I have been upset for years because my dream Joey Ryan spot is him dick tossing a guy so hard that when he rolls over he's just gushing blood.
00:28:28
Speaker
of the blade spot. I just want him to blade and just be just drenched from a big toss. How do you prevent the blood from coming out until that moment? I don't know. Maybe he's thought about it and the mechanics don't work. He's like, that would be brilliant, Garrett.
00:28:47
Speaker
Joey, if you're listening, work on it. We'll help you. What else did we have? We had Tony Deppin versus Mance Warner, Blake Christian versus Erez. I wasn't familiar with him. Blake Christian did a flip out of the goddamn ring and landed on a chair in the audience on accident.
00:29:05
Speaker
Like how did he land on it? Like he landed standing on a folding chair. Like he shot over the guy, ran into him, and when he flipped, he just landed standing upright in a chair. Thought that was incredible. That's pretty lucky. Ricky Shane Page versus Effie. And you know what's really, Ricky Shane Page being a piece of shit still, but there is something that only, this could not have worked with anybody, but a piece of shit he'll like him. At one point he went to Kip up and missed.
00:29:37
Speaker
And it was just funny. Well, like, and then everybody's like, oh, it makes fun of him. But that would only work for a piece of shit. He'll think if like Drew McIntyre went to kip up and fucked up, he would look like, oh, there goes your push. There's no returning from that. Yeah, you can't fuck up a kip up. Like if you can't do it consistently every fucking time, don't do it. You need to know that your body is capable.
00:30:03
Speaker
Can you kip up, Garrett? Hell no. And you'll never see me try. Really? So how much money would I have to pay you to get you to attempt, like an honest attempt at kipping up? A Subway sandwich. The price is low. Oh, but you didn't let me finish. And sun chips, motherfucker.
00:30:28
Speaker
Do you want to drink too? Nah, just the sun chips. I'm not getting greedy with this one. Well you're gonna be here in a month so I might make this happen. Hell yeah. Yeah actually that subway that's right by you, I feel like weird stuff is always happening there. I feel like either the employees are being weird at us or there's cops making me look like, make me feel like I look like a piece of shit.
00:30:51
Speaker
So the subway near my home here in Chicago, Illinois is 24 hours and it's in a parking lot across the street from a Jewel grocery store and the parking lot is fucking huge.
00:31:05
Speaker
And you are right, either the employees have nothing to do and they've clearly been sitting there for hours, like completely bored out of their minds on their phones, or there's a weird person hanging out near the door, not necessarily like a homeless person or anything, but just somebody who's a little off and doing weird things. And the other option is that there's police hanging out in there. And every time you've come, it's been one of those things.
00:31:31
Speaker
Some weird interaction has happened. I remember I had to tell the police where we had been, but not because I was being like interrogated, but I feel like I had to tell them that we were at the death matches. You just tell the truth, you were proud and you wanted to tell someone, you were excited. Why do you smell like mercury? I don't know, officer, I don't know. The number of light tubes I've seen shattered tonight would blow your mind, officer. And I'm not gonna tell you the location because I'm not a narc.
00:32:01
Speaker
The back of the Foreman Mills. Derek, shut the fuck up. Lake Villa or whatever the fuck it is. I don't even remember what suburb it was. Is that disrespectful? Not remembering the name of the town that the event was in? No, of course not. We've been up and down these roads, Garrett. We've been through a lot of towns. We've seen a lot of shit. Nothing will ever be as funny as that car ride home after that show. Oh.
00:32:30
Speaker
I, yeah, that is like, if I could have seen like a taxicab confessions, that was just our faces looking mortified of the horrific shit we had just witnessed where we're like, we're different people now, Derek. This is, nothing's ever gonna be the same. You wanna go to Subway? Like it's gotta be, like the reaction we had after our first death match show had to be right in line with a lot of people's reactions the first time they see childbirth.
Childhood Memories & GCW Antics
00:32:59
Speaker
like we're just mouth agape a lot of silence and processing of feelings that you didn't know you could have we have terrible friends lovely lovely terrible friends but the first time i ever saw childbirth would have probably been grade school in kyle's house oh i was there for that oh my god we had the miracle of life on vhs and he showed it to us in reverse
00:33:26
Speaker
Yes. When you rewind a VHS tape of, of childbirth, it's really them pushing a baby back in. And that is even more terrible, but impressive. You're listening to predetermined your favorite weekly pro wrestling hangout. Just wanted to plug the name of the podcast again. So when you repeat this story about what you were listening to your coworkers or your friends or whoever you're listening to this around publicly,
00:33:55
Speaker
as we describe childbirth and how it relates to pro-wrestling reactions. Yeah, where are you right now? Make eye contact with your coworker. I know you're listening to this while you're working. Maybe you're at the gym. Yeah, peek over at the guy next to you and just picture a baby going back in. Smile. I'll give you a minute. And then point to your earbuds or your speaker and say, yep, pro-wrestling podcast predetermined. Pro-wrestling. You should be watching.
00:34:23
Speaker
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00:34:45
Speaker
Speaking of which, our listener, once again, I still don't know his first name, but I know his name on the social media is Teagums. He still needs to send us a match. I think he sent me a message saying that he was going to get us one this week to do next week. All right. Well, if we get that match, then we will have that lined up for next week's show.
00:35:08
Speaker
Was there anything else from GCW you wanted to bring up? Oh, I'm so excited about the end, though. Nick Gage finally called out Ricky Shane Page, and he's going for another title shot in Atlantic City on the show that Joey Janela is coming back on. I think the show is actually called Run Ricky Run. And Nick Gage, Ricky Shane Page in a deathmatch for the title.
00:35:35
Speaker
Shit. Dave, there's a chance Nick gets it back. Or are we gonna continue this shitty Ricky-Shane page title run? It seems like it would be weird to just give it back to him so quickly after all the awesome build that this has had. But that being said, I don't know. He's got his crew. Maybe Nick Gage has to get a crew. Oh my God. I forgot they, um, fuck. I wish I could remember the wrestler's name, but a wrestler had died this week and Nick Gage was in the ring basically eulogizing him.
00:36:05
Speaker
Is that the right word? Yeah, that works. Is that a pretend word I made up? A eulogy? Yeah, I think that's good. I think I did it right. It's a eulogy, but when you do it, I think it's eulogizing. I think that works. I'm accepting it. Sounds like an exercise. But Ricky Shane Page came and sideswiped him while he was saying something nice about his buddy that had just died. So he was a real piece of shit this week. Wow.
00:36:34
Speaker
Wow. Oh my God. You can't even do that on a major promotion. You do understand that, right?
00:36:44
Speaker
What, you mean like, do I understand that that's not a nice thing to do? And like, if they did that on TV this week, on AEW, everybody would be outraged? Yes. Yeah, I understand. I'm just saying, let's make it clear, that only works at that level. Well, I think it, cause, you know, Janelle is coming back and on commentary a couple of shows ago, they even said, he's still going to be an AEW, but on the weekends, he gets to come hang out with his bad friends.
00:37:13
Speaker
Did you see Janela's spot on AEW tonight? I loved it so much. Kip Sabian and Penelope Cruz, right? Penelope Ford. Why am I saying Penelope Cruz? Because Penelope Cruz was in Vanilla Sky. That's right. Penelope Ford. Star of Banditas, Penelope Cruz.
00:37:36
Speaker
He got a double smooch, eats cheek. And then as he disappeared back into the crowd, he flipped a middle finger. I loved him disappearing with his middle finger up. And he, like, the funny thing is he never came back. That was his spot this week. He flew to Cleveland to get kissed on both cheeks, flip people off and then disappear. Her wrestling is wacky.
00:38:01
Speaker
That was somebody's job this week. Think about what you did for money. Look at your coworker right now. Think about a baby getting pushed into him. Now think about them. Think about that. Think about it. Tony Khan wrote a paycheck to Joey Janela this week for getting kissed and throwing a middle finger up.
AEW Dynamics & Royal Rumble Reflections
00:38:22
Speaker
Well, he also threw a paycheck at Britt Baker for what does she have a match coming up against the commentary team? I don't know. I hope so. Because it seems like she's really just calling out Shivani and Jim Ross. She didn't have anything to say to Excalibur. Well, we don't know that Excalibur is not next. That's true. Next week, it could be Excalibur's turn to get roasted. Yeah, it should be. And I like that they re-show the clip from last week and they're like, oh, we're going to show her saying shit twice.
00:38:51
Speaker
Can we talk about how good MJF was on commentary tonight? Oh my God. Yes. Swimming is for poor people. That was a sentence that was. The young bucks tried to kill him last week because believe it or not, MJF doesn't know how to swim.
00:39:10
Speaker
I'm pretty sure this is inconsistent with storylines because I'm pretty certain that there have been references to MJF going over to Cody's house just months ago and swimming with him. Wasn't that a thing? You know what, that may have been on BTE, but keep it kayfabe. Oh, my point comes to life that BTE should have no impact on AEW storylines on TNT. Gagoosh.
00:39:39
Speaker
Stop that. Don't gloat. I don't like that side of Derek. It's called being a sore winner is what it is. No, MJF is just fantastic. And next week in a pro wrestling ring and a prime time slot on TNT, we're going to see a man get whipped 10 times.
00:40:03
Speaker
Does that really hold as much steam as it should after what we just watched Daniel Bryan and Bray Wyatt do with the strap? That's a fair question to ask and I hadn't even thought about that. We just saw those perfectly fair question to ask. Tear the fucking house down. Daniel Bryan took like a hundred lashes and I'm gonna watch Cody Rhodes take 10. Let's talk about that for a minute because
00:40:30
Speaker
You were in Florida. When did you get back from Florida, by the way? I got back Monday afternoon and then went to work, right? Basically landed and went straight to work. Ouch. Yeah. My apologies. No, it's okay. I mean, I went and looked at spaceships. You can't win them all.
00:40:49
Speaker
I was just gonna say, I had so little contact with you over the last few days, I was wondering if you were okay. And I didn't know if you were gonna have time to watch anything from the Rumble. And if you did, I was for certain that you were gonna, at the very least, watch both Rumble matches, which you certainly did. But when I was talking with you earlier, I made sure to say, hey, you need to check out that Daniel Bryan versus the Fiend match because that shit was fire.
00:41:15
Speaker
Dude, I watched that right before AEW tonight and holy shit, that was a good wrestling match. We have some questions about the end. West Coast correspondent John did have a few questions about it. About the Fiend versus Daniel Bryan? About the finale of the match, how it just kind of ended.
00:41:43
Speaker
Oh, with the mandible claw thing? Yeah, I guess it's kind of, he just pops up no cells and then wins, kind of. But yeah, that felt like, you know, something a horror villain would do. Well, yeah, I mean, he's essentially Michael Myers for all intents and purposes. Like he'll sell for you a little bit more than Michael Myers will, I guess. Yeah, Michael Myers, no cells like a motherfucker. He is, it sucks wrestling him. But let's talk about the match before we go to the end.
00:42:11
Speaker
It felt like, and I don't know if it's just the nature of how the fans feel about the fiend so far, because they're really into the character and they're really into the segments. But I think when the matches start, and again, there's only been a few so far, so take it with a grain of salt. There's kind of this feeling of, oh, what kind of shenanigans are they going to do to make this work? How can this character, um, sell for the opponent? Like why is it going to be dramatic?
00:42:41
Speaker
And I thought the crowd when this match started was pretty quiet. Did you notice that as well? You mean quiet while Daniel Bryan was just getting whipped or when they were just kind of still feeling each other out? Yeah, like, like, well, I guess both. I don't know the way the match started was a feel out process because it really was just Daniel Bryan getting whipped to start the match.
00:43:04
Speaker
But the crowd, I don't even, I don't even know if it was a bad quiet, but like there was a moment where during the match, all of a sudden it was like, holy shit, this is awesome. I think it was a lot of people were shocked by how much they were really watching a man get whipped and watching the red marks go across him and watch him gradually start to bleed in places. And it just went on for so long.
00:43:29
Speaker
I think this is also a perfect example, once again, of why pro wrestling is so great to watch live. Because when I was watching this pay-per-view, during this match, I started to wonder if Daniel Bryan was going to win the title back. Like, they did the comeback for him so brilliantly.
00:43:49
Speaker
and they made go for it sorry oh no no no i i was going to say like i i agree with you there that there was a moment where i thought holy shit maybe he is actually going to do it but when i went into that match the only thing i thought is there's no way the fiend's dropping the title tonight
00:44:07
Speaker
Well, I thought the same thing, too. And the fact that they did get me to get there, but also I was just excited they were giving me a match. I was excited to see how many times have you had to watch a title match that you knew they weren't going to drop the title and you just it made you not give a shit. But this was this was such a good matchup and they did such a good job in the middle of the show on a title match.
00:44:32
Speaker
Well, I think the moment where things got really exciting is when he locked in the yes lock, but he was using the strap instead of his hands, much in the way that Gargano was using the Champa's knee brace on him during their beginning of their feud in NXT. But there was something visually about having that leather strap in the fiend's mouth and Brian cranking back on that and pulling his head back.
00:44:58
Speaker
Like where I was like, holy fuck, I mean, this is brutal enough where if the fiend like passes out or something, like I think it works. And obviously he fucking like powered out of that. And I just thought it was really, really well done. And I've, and I meant to say this to you, it does, they don't happen anymore. I know that strap matches are kind of brutal in nature, obviously. And so I get why they don't happen as frequently, but I really love a good strap match.
00:45:25
Speaker
No, that was WWE giving us a match that I genuinely cannot remember the last time I watched one. I know Rock and Triple H did one back during the Attitude Era. And I know that Eddie Guerrero and JBL had a bull rope match, not a strap match. But the thing is, this was pinfall and submission. And a lot of strap matches, there's usually another stipulation, but the bull rope match, you have to touch all four corners of the ring.
00:45:53
Speaker
with your opponent and capacitated to win? You just answered my question then. I know when the last one was. It would have been Rusev versus John Cena in that four corners match. That chain match? Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Absolutely fucking right. Not as good as a strap match. Another tearing away flesh works well. This had a good like old school feel to it while still feeling fresh.
00:46:21
Speaker
This was, it felt like I was getting a rebooted strap match, Derek. We haven't had a chance to talk about this. How does, does it make you feel weird seeing how Daniel Bryan looks without, without all the head hair and facial hair? So I hit, you know, I had not been watching WWE very regularly or even really keeping up with it. So when I'm jumping back in, it was kind of nice like jumping back into a new Japan with Wrestle Kingdom.
00:46:47
Speaker
This was just a fun show to come back and it was nice to come back to, okay Garrett, this is the Fiend. We know you're not like super into him quite yet, but what if we have good guy Daniel Bryan? I'm like, oh, I love good guy Daniel Bryan. American dragon, Daniel Bryan. I love that guy. All right, so let's see them do this. And it made me finally enjoy the Fiend, I think the way I was supposed to.
00:47:13
Speaker
They got him off of Rawlin away from Seth Rollins. That's what made the difference. What did you think of the women's rumble?
00:47:22
Speaker
Oh my god, I popped so many times in that. When Mercedes Martinez showed up, when Bianca Belair showed up, when fuck. Shotzi? Shotzi, I lost my mind. Candice. Candice, yeah. Yeah, just getting to see them in it at all, and just getting to see them have spots throughout it, I love the shit out of it. And to me, it makes sense that Charlotte won. She's a flare.
00:47:50
Speaker
I think it makes sense that she won. I think there were a lot of people who were upset about it because they felt like it was predictable. I get that side of it too. But I also feel like that's the right, she was the runner up last year. And she probably would have won the thing last year if Becky hadn't caught fire when she did. So this feels like a makeup move maybe. But I don't know. I mean, I think that the women's rumble this year was,
00:48:16
Speaker
Here's the issue they're going to have. When they were going into this match on the card, they had such a limited number of names officially announced for being in the match, which maybe that's the way you should do it. Maybe they shouldn't have everybody in the match made known. So everything's a surprise. But they have the women's roster, while very sizable and the women's division being done so well in WWE, it's still smaller.
00:48:46
Speaker
So by the very nature of a 30 man or woman competition, they're gonna have to call up a shit ton of people from NXT to fill those spots. They're gonna have to call in legends and veterans, like the mighty Molly, Molly Holly spot in the match. It was pretty awesome. And then Beth Phoenix exploded. Beth Phoenix's head was gushing blood. We cannot leave that out.
00:49:17
Speaker
So much blood. Well, the thing is, I didn't notice it initially. What I noticed was I saw that Charlotte had a shitload of blood on her face and on her nose. And I thought, oh man, Charlotte broke her nose. But then it like never came back and it didn't really look like anything was wrong. And then the next thing I saw was like, oh, she had locked up or done something with Beth Phoenix. And that's where the blood came from. Cause it was just gushing out of the back of her head.
00:49:46
Speaker
Yeah. What did we ever find out? What happened? Where did she hit? No idea. I have no idea what happened.
00:49:55
Speaker
I mean, overall, were you happy with the entire women's match? What were some of your favorite moments, or who were you excited to see? It was awesome to see Naomi come back. And again, the cliche Royal Rumble spot where they have the miraculous way to stay in, she'd had that where she clung to the wall like Spider-Man, and then used the little tabletop on the announce table to build a bridge back to the ring. I thought all of that was cool.
00:50:25
Speaker
Shayna Baszler. There was a moment where I thought Shayna Baszler was going to end up winning the whole thing. Oh, yeah. It would have made sense. Like that would have been a nice time to kind of jumpstart her. But it also I could see them keeping her down at NXT for a lot longer if they're just trying to keep that going. Yeah, we'll see. No, like I agree with you. I'm fine with Charlotte winning it. I thought the women's Rumble was really nice.
00:50:51
Speaker
So yeah, again, I mentioned this on social media, and we'll get to this here in a second to kind of come full circle on this. I wonder how the Fox executives feel knowing that both Royal Rumble winners and the returning Edge are all on Raw. Smackdown did not get a bone thrown its way at this pay-per-view. That means they'll probably get a huge WrestleMania.
00:51:19
Speaker
maybe that's very possible um men's rumble so much to talk about in this match i'm yeah number one thing i'm pretty sure we fantasy booked this rumble two years ago i think we did we'd have to go back into the archives and find it but you and i had talked about the possibility of just putting brock lezner in the rumble and just having him
00:51:41
Speaker
destroy everybody who comes to the ring. The way you used to do if you played a Royal Rumble match for one of the PlayStation SmackDown games where you would start at number one and you would just let people come out and you would chuck them out one by one all the way. Looking dominant as ever.
00:52:00
Speaker
I think everybody kind of has the same... Oh, not everybody. How do you feel about Brock Lesnar? He's always in this spot every year. I was pretty damn excited to see him in the Royal Rumble at number one. I think just because... With the title? With the title. Because I was just like, oh, he's gonna beat the shit out of everybody. What are they gonna do? Have him just win? I didn't think Brock was just gonna win.
00:52:25
Speaker
but I was very excited to see where it went and then just kind of getting to see Brock Lesnar go one on one with everybody. It was like getting to see 17 many Brock Lesnar matches. That's very, very, very true. And by many, I mean just 17 regular length Brock Lesnar matches. It was funny because when Elias was announced as the number two, it looked like for real Brock wasn't having it.
00:52:53
Speaker
Oh, like I understand that's part of his character is to just kind of be no nonsense. But as the match went on, he got a little bit more relaxed and was doing some comedy. But that first one, Elias came out and was playing that song and trying to, and Brock ran, like it looked like Brock was like amped up to be wrestling. And it was just like, I'm done. Let's, let's start this thing. I want to go home. And didn't he, did he smash Elias with the guitar? He did. But he hit him with the strings part and it didn't even break a little bit.
00:53:21
Speaker
Yeah, needless to say Elias didn't last long, but none of them really lasted very long. When Keith Lee went toe to toe with Brock Lesnar and they were, I didn't realize how tall Keith Lee was. They were so close in height. Yeah, it was awesome because his reaction, Lesnar's reaction in the ring when Keith Lee came out, the camera cut over to him and he had that surprised face and he went, ooh, big boy.
00:53:50
Speaker
Like, I like to think that Brock legitimately doesn't know 90% of the roster, and when somebody shows up that actually is big and can stand toe to toe with him, he's legitimately shocked. Oh my god, I wish he could have seen Die Jack. Wait, so... The Keith Lee spot was a moment.
00:54:13
Speaker
Like it was definitely a moment. And the thing is, no matter how much you may not like hearing this, I know I certainly don't like saying it. When you get to have those moments with Brock, where it looks like you measure up to however they want to book him, it does get you over to a different level.
00:54:33
Speaker
Oh no, I completely get that. It made me happy to see that, oh my god, Keith Lee is standing there with Brock Lesnar. This is a big deal for him. Yeah, and he took Brock Lesnar off his feet. Oh, that was sweet. Would you be excited for a Brock Lesnar Keith Lee match? Keith Lee match? I think so. If they actually let them have a regular match and let Keith Lee be competitive with them, I think that could be a hell of a lot of fun.
00:55:00
Speaker
I also think I would love to see him versus Matt Riddle. Are we going to get that anytime soon, Derek? Well, the hot story out of the rumble is that there was a backstage confrontation between Brock Lesnar and Matt Riddle. Why am I not surprised? So he checked Goldberg off of his off of his list of encounters. And now Brock Lesnar was clearly the next. I wish I hope what happened this. What's up? So allegedly what happened here?
00:55:32
Speaker
Oh, you want me to tell the story? Yeah, I don't know if I know the story. I know you texted to me earlier, but like, what, what is being said that happened? I really don't know the details. I do know that what was relayed to me was that supposedly Matt Riddle and Lesnar had an interaction and Riddle was basically pushing for them to have a match together. And Brock was like, yeah, that's not happening. And Matt Riddle,
00:55:57
Speaker
And what I'm assuming in the most Matt Riddle voice ever said, well, I'm going to make it happen, bro. And I'm sure he hates being called bro. Just as much as Goldberg did, I'm sure.
00:56:16
Speaker
I just want, I want a WWE network series that's Matt Riddle going up to like veteran wrestlers and just harassing them and picking fights and demanding matches with them. Like Matt Riddle starts shit with legends. I would watch that show weekly. It's like, what is this? This is just, it's Matt Riddle fucking with Pat Patterson. Why? I don't know.
00:56:39
Speaker
And it's funny because it's like Matt, Matt Riddle's in a different position than many of the people on that roster. Cause not everybody on that roster has an MMA background. Like they might be tough, but Matt Riddle can kind of fuck with you and most likely live with the consequences of how upset you get. Like Lesnar may be the only exception to that rule, which it makes it even funnier. Cause it's the old, yeah, it just, it feels like the only guy who can kind of fuck with Brock Lesnar if he wants to.
00:57:08
Speaker
Right. I love it. I absolutely love that. And I why would Brock not want that match? Maybe he saw how he treated Bill and he's offended. Like maybe he's feeling defensive of Bill Goldberg. That's my fucking colleague over there. Colleague, you broke the accent back out for the show. Yes. That's my fucking coworker. I don't know if you've seen that over at WrestleMania. We had six or seven minutes of fights.
00:57:36
Speaker
I've gone to WrestleMania twice with that man. Disrespect him. Sometimes it goes better than you think it will. But either way, you don't fuck with Bill Goldberg on my watch, you son of a bitch.
00:57:50
Speaker
Let's talk about how this, this is the thing I, I, I oversaw an exchange by a loyal listener of the show, Joey. And I think Joey for the rest of his life and justifiably so will probably hate Brock Lesnar to death because of what he did to Kofi Kingston.
00:58:11
Speaker
Fair to say? I think, yeah, he's definitely earned that hatred. For sure. Yeah. Joey, no worries there. No one will judge you for hating Brock Lesnar for that. I totally understand where that hatred comes from. I share that same hatred for Bill Goldberg. I get it.
00:58:30
Speaker
Don't you fucking talk about Bill Goldberg around me. If Brock came through my window right now, to be like, did you not get the memo from what I said to Riddle? Hey, Mr. Tough Guy, what you think you're doing in there? Do you remember that one time I told you that I could take suplexes from Brock Lesnar like it was no big deal? And you believed it. I could hear it in your voice. I think I'd be fine. Anyways, what I was going to say is,
00:59:00
Speaker
You have to give him credit. They know that the fans hate Lesnar being there. They know that they hate him being a bully to the whole roster. They know that they hate him holding a title and getting pushed. So the best way to get him heat is to put him and make him the star of the show.
00:59:18
Speaker
it's the thing that the fans want the least so when he's the number one entrant in the rumble and every time somebody comes out they just immediately get dispatched and brushed away like they're nothing the heat just builds and builds and builds and what it does is it makes everybody in the arena wants to have somebody come down to the ring and shut him up and after last week where Lesnar kicked Ricochet in the dick
00:59:42
Speaker
and as badly as so many people wanted to see Drew McIntyre win the Royal Rumble. The spot with Ricochet low blowing Lesnar and then getting the Claymore on Lesnar to knock him over the top rope, that spot got such a hot pop and was so fucking well executed. And Lesnar laid out on the floor for a couple of minutes out of it and shocked.
01:00:09
Speaker
Like I very easily could have done my positivity spin on Brock Lesnar this week. Cause I thought he was fantastic. He played his role so well.
01:00:20
Speaker
even down to, let's talk about this. Every time he would violently eliminate somebody, he would ask Haman for the title and he would walk around the ring holding up the title for a moment to remind everybody, this is mine and there's nothing you can do about it. And then when he would give it back, he wouldn't even give it back in a way that respected the title. He threw it back like he didn't even give a shit.
01:00:41
Speaker
It's like the bully who doesn't like the toy that you have, but he's taking it anyway and it's gonna fucking break it because he knows how much it means to you. I think he just didn't know what to do with his hands for the rest of the time that he had to wait for somebody to come down to the ring. He's like, hand me that. I don't know what to do. I don't, I can't, I don't have pockets. Whose entrance music was he dancing to? Oh my god. It was a... Was it MVPs?
01:01:07
Speaker
Was it? I'm trying. He got really, really in. Oh, he got into Shelton Benjamin's or something didn't he? Well, he was excited to see Shelton Benjamin because they used to train together. But there was somebody whose music hit and it was a hip hop song of some sort and he started dancing to it in the, what is it? What the enigma that is Brock Lesnar.
01:01:29
Speaker
But the fucking elimination spot with Ricochet and Drew McIntyre taking him out got such a nice response and it was so well executed. And it set up Drew eventually winning the Rumble so well. Yeah, really well done. Let's talk about the elephant in the room because this is the big story in wrestling this week. Edge is back.
01:01:49
Speaker
Yeah, did you see it coming? Was this rumored? Was this a thing that we were all expecting? So, we're gonna call this the Jericho from now on. There have been rumors for a while. The Edge was signing a new deal with WWE.
01:02:07
Speaker
But it didn't add up because of the history with the spinal stenosis and the neck injuries. And there hasn't been any solid confirmation that he's just good to go. All you've heard is that Edge is gonna be signing a new deal with WWE. And anytime he was asked about it, and this is where the Jericho part comes in, Edge would deny it adamantly and treat you like you're a fucking idiot for asking.
01:02:31
Speaker
That is the Jericho. Lie your ass off and just be as big a dick about it as you can. Because the payoff is that when you do show up, it gets a genuine reaction. I did not see this coming.
01:02:46
Speaker
There were a lot of things in my mind about who could or would show. I really thought a surprise entrant was going to win the Rumble this year. I thought maybe Cena. I thought maybe Distantly Punk. Had no idea.
01:03:03
Speaker
I don't know, I'm fine with McIntyre winning it, I think that was the correct move. But Edge coming out shocked the hell out of me. And then when you see, the thing is, his music hits, the place goes absolutely fucking bonkers.
01:03:18
Speaker
I mean, was it difficult? Did that get spoiled for you before you watched the Rumble, I'm sure? Unfortunately, I tried to watch it actually the night of the Rumble. It had just ended and I have no idea when they actually put it up, but I had to wait till the next day and I fucked myself and ended up looking at Facebook and seeing that Edge came back. I wish you could have watched it live, man, because it was pretty electric. I'm sure it was still electric to watch on replay, but
01:03:45
Speaker
when you don't know what's coming. Just his face when he came out, like you just, you felt so happy for him.
01:03:54
Speaker
Edge was the star during like the end of the ruthless aggression era and into the next era of WWE, what a lot of people call like the PG era. So that's an era that you didn't really watch much of, right? Yeah, to me, Edge was the brood. Edge was the TLC guy. Those were the times I really remembered Edge. So you didn't get to see Edge's singles run? No, not really. And he's got more than 10 World Championship reigns during that time that you missed.
01:04:24
Speaker
Well don't make me feel bad about it. I'm just saying if you want we should go back and watch some edge matches for an episode someday. Honestly after I popped so hard when he speared every guy in that ring I think I would go back and watch some edge.
01:04:42
Speaker
Well, let's keep that we've talked about several guys that we want to do a whole episode on edge is probably to spin out into that list. You're just going to give me some edge homework. I'll give you some edge homework. Here's the thing. I have been very vocal in the past. I was more of a fan of Christian when they went their separate singles career careers. WWE was fully behind edge from the moment they split those guys up as a tag team.
01:05:07
Speaker
And it was pretty apparent. And I don't know if I resented Edge a little bit because of that, but he also had several injuries along the way after they split them up that kind of derailed his momentum. And I kind of got behind Christian. Christian didn't ascend to the same level that Edge did, but he still had a really damn good career. But there was a lot of Edge that I missed because he took off and became the face of the SmackDown brand from basically, God, I want to say like 2007 on.
01:05:38
Speaker
And I missed a lot of that. So there's homework I need to give myself on edge. Yeah, you hear that? You do your fucking homework too and you quit talking about Bill Goldberg. But I will put a bow on this and I thought the Royal men's rumble was awesome. I'm glad that good for Drew McIntyre after coming back a couple of years ago. I mean, he was fired by WWE and now he's going to get a title match at WrestleMania against Brock Lesnar.
01:06:09
Speaker
saw that guy put on some crazy matches at PWG and it was just he was one of those guys that when he was in the ring you could always tell like yeah you probably should still be on WWE like you're just you look the part you're doing like you could just tell that he wasn't gonna last long on the indies that he was gonna be reinvented himself there
01:06:30
Speaker
Oh, I know. I mean, like when I say last long, I mean like somebody was going to take him. He was going to end up somewhere. He was just too fucking good. And, you know, according to my wife, he's very sexy. That's what I hear from the Internet that the ladies love Drew McIntyre. He looks like a romance novel cover. He really, really does.
01:06:50
Speaker
with a move that's named after what I assume is the claymore mines from Metal Gear Solid. You can only assume. You can only assume, yeah. Can we talk about something else really quick? It's off topic, but I want to get your take on it as we wrap this episode up.
Remembering Kobe Bryant
01:07:06
Speaker
Did the untimely death of Kobe Bryant affect your realm?
01:07:14
Speaker
I was in a hot air balloon when I found out. Really? I'm sure that was unnerving. I believe what happened as my sister said, Kobe Bryant just died in a helicopter crash. And I said, why the fuck would you tell me that at this moment? Oh, no. I wasn't a huge NBA guy, but obviously that, you know, he is
01:07:43
Speaker
a sports star that you hear a lot about. He was probably one of the most famous athletes on the planet. It's hard to not know who he is. My brother-in-law was a huge fan. He ended up, you know, leaving where we were to go, because I was like his hero.
01:07:59
Speaker
So I mean, it affected me in that way. But like, I feel very, very bad for his family. I don't know what you want me to say about Kobe Bryant right now. I'm just I was asking because what's been crazy is I wasn't a I'm not a big NBA guy either. I know that you and I were growing up during like the tail end of the Jordan years. Right. And Kobe kind of took over at the end of Jordan's career. He became like the next face of the NBA during that time. And like I said, I didn't watch a lot. But you said there was
01:08:29
Speaker
His name came up a lot. He was a significant figure that apparently impacted people across a huge spectrum. And the outpouring of emotions and attributes to him across every media that you can think of in the last few days has been wild. I was in my room tinkering around with my PlayStation Classic. And when I emerged from my room, my roommate Chris said, Kobe Bryant just died.
01:08:55
Speaker
and I thought that there was like a second part to it where it was like some guy named Kobe Bryant that just shared the name had passed away like so I had to wait for the no like the actual Kobe Bryant it didn't it still doesn't feel real I know right like he almost I think he was so famous that he felt like immortal
01:09:20
Speaker
I think that is a thing. When you achieve a certain level of fame, there's a sense of like, oh, everything's built so that you're protected. There won't be tragedy for you. But yeah, this is a fucking reminder, man. Life is short. And you don't know when you're gonna go.
01:09:42
Speaker
There's no way we're ending this on that. No, take us out of here on a positive note. I just wanted to get your feelings and say, rest in peace, Kobe. Oh, no, absolutely. And to everyone else who was in the helicopter, that's equally as unfortunate. Well, there's something I guess we'll put off till next week. I kind of want to go over some of the Mania weekend schedule. I'm actually going to, I decided I'm going to do WrestleMania weekend and go hard again this year.
01:10:09
Speaker
You're gonna do fucking everything you did in New Orleans? I'm not gonna do it like that, but I did get a general admission pass to all the GCW shows, so I'll have access to those. But I wanna go through the line and see if I want people to chime in and tell me what shows I should be going to that weekend.
01:10:27
Speaker
not just the GCW stuff. But we'll get into that next week and I'm very excited because I'll get to hang out with Kelly, Matt and Mike again. Matt being the one that yelled at Meltzer. Maybe he'll get another chance in Florida. They were very, oh, I'm sure he said that he'll yell at Uncle Dave again. He actually, I believe he said he'll yell at Uncle Dave again at triple or nothing.
01:10:53
Speaker
I will say, we need to bring this up because it's a significant moment for us. By the time you're listening to this podcast, we're releasing it tomorrow. But we will be seeing each other, Garrett, in a month for AEW Revolution here in Chicago.
01:11:12
Speaker
That's very exciting. It's super exciting, because I'm excited about this card coming together. Oh my god. By that time, do you think we're going to have Hangman Page versus... Who are we going to see Hangman fight, Derek? That guy's so fucking cool right now. I think we could very well see the implosion happen at revolution. Oh, I think you're right.
01:11:33
Speaker
I think you're right. Right now, I think they're going to be able to keep Kenny and him as a team up till revolution. We'll see what happens. But obviously, we're getting Moxley and Jericho for the title. We're going to get MJF and Cody. I mean, I'm so excited for the show and the fact that we're officially like a month away, this is going to be a good time. And plus, I'm excited to hang out with you for a few days and probably record some more content.
01:12:01
Speaker
Oh, always, always be recording content. Garrett, plug our shit and get us out of here. Can I do one thing before we go? It'll only take a minute and four seconds. Okay. Okay. Um, I have not watched the new Fast and Furious trailer yet. And that movie is coming out pretty soon. And I'm going to watch this trailer right now live on the air and give you a, you get to do a watch along with me.
01:12:32
Speaker
The audience does. All right, so it's at the beginning of the trailer. I am hitting play. Looks like an old farmhouse. I see Vin Diesel in the distance. Oh, he's teaching a little baby how to work on a car. Just let me know when John Cena shows up. Does he show up in the trailer? Have you seen this trailer? Oh, he's a dad. He's got a kid. He doesn't live his life a quarter mile at a time anymore.
01:13:06
Speaker
Oh, this one's going to be real about family. This is a moment on this podcast. Letty Letty's giving him the little kid his necklace. Oh, shit. He's gripping a little baby hand, gripping a necklace. F9, the fast saga trailer. What the fuck? Derek, nothing happened.
01:13:36
Speaker
It's just, that was a teaser that just showed me family time with the Fast and Furious crew. You seem upset, Garrett. What went wrong? Well, I didn't see any cars going. I didn't see John Cena. I didn't see anything explode. I didn't see anything turn upside down. John Cena is going to be in the next Fast and Furious movie. I'm sorry that the trailer wasn't what you wanted it to be. What do you want me to say? It was just the teaser. It says the actual trailer comes out on Friday.
01:14:06
Speaker
Well, we can try this again next week if you would like. Yeah, let's do this again. Same time, same place.
01:14:17
Speaker
All right, everybody, thanks so much for listening. Be sure to follow us on social media at predetermined podcast on Instagram at Wrestle Hangout on Facebook and Twitter. I am at Gartet. Derek is at Halloween helping. Our email address is predetermined podcast at gmail.com. If you're the son of a bitch that tried to hack into our Instagram account from Alabama, stop it.
01:14:42
Speaker
And if you can think of anything fun you would like Garrett to say in the Brock Lesnar voice, let us know. Email us at predetermined podcast at gmail.com. And we're always open to more erotic fan fiction too. Honestly, at this point I'm going to open it up to any erotic fiction.
01:15:02
Speaker
Doesn't even have to be about us. It doesn't even have to be about us. You want to send me your Doctor Who fanfic. You want to send me something from NYPD Blue. I don't care. We'll see. He's got Dennis Franz. I'll read it. Good night, everybody. Hit our goddamn music.