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The Power of Presence: Kristen Such on Self-Mastery and Spiritual Evolution
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In this episode of Bigger Talks, Eric and Kristen Such delve into the principles of self-mastery and spiritual evolution. They explore the transformative power of meditation, the pursuit of wholeness, and the journey of finding one's soul purpose beyond corporate confines. Kristen shares the depths of her rock bottom experiences and her subsequent rise by embracing the teachings of Dr. Joe Dispenza. She imparts wisdom on building self-trust, the essence of surrendering to the present moment, and the significance of mastering discomfort for personal and spiritual evolution. Through her candid sharing, Kristen and Eric inspire listeners with actionable strategies to fortify their self-mastery and pursue their true path with confidence and trust.
Also in this episode:
- Wholeness and abundance are states of being that come from within, and one cultivates them through meditation and introspection.
- Mastery of discomfort is a key strategy for personal development and achieving one's goals, as it fosters resilience and self-trust.
- True relationships and divine union emerge from two individuals meeting from places of individual wholeness rather than seeking completion in the other.
- Acceptance is a transformative tool for personal growth; accepting the worst-case scenario releases resistance and fosters a greater receptivity to life's flow.
Kristen Such
Kristen is a spiritual mentor, channel, and mindset coach. Her spiritual journey started when she was 17 years old and had her spiritual awakening. Kristen is passionate about helping humans believe in themselves, heal anything holding them back, overcome their fear of being seen, & guide them to discover and embrace their soul's true calling. She has spent the last eight years learning from world-renowned healers, intuitives, energy experts, and therapists. She's mastered a plethora of tools and healing techniques along the way. These have been instrumental in elevating her mindset, bolstering her confidence, and transforming her life.
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Transcript
Introduction to 'Bigger Talks'
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Welcome to Bigger Talks with Eric Bigger, a podcast dedicated to delving into unexpected conversations with a diverse range of guests.
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I'm your host, Eric Bigger, and I'm joining you each week to create an authentic space of dialogue about the subcultures of American life.
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Through engaging discussions with writers, actors, experts, and influencers, we will explore the strength of diversity and the transformational power of vulnerability.
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So let's dive in and discover the unexpected together on Bigger Talks.
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Bigger Talks, Bigger Talks.
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We back again with another episode.
Meet Kristen Seek: From Corporate to Spiritual
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And I got the lovely Kristen Seek on the podcast, Bigger Talk.
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I thought it was such.
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She just corrected me.
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Thank you, Kristen.
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Thank you for being here.
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She's a spiritual mentor.
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She's a confidence coach.
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She's a mindset coach.
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She's all the thing.
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This woman is powerful.
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By the way, I ran into her on YouTube talking about her Joe Dispenza experience and heart coherence and retreats and quitting the corporate world to get into the spiritual world.
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Chris, welcome to Bigger Talks.
The Transformative Power of Meditation
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How are you?
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How you feeling?
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Thank you so much for that introduction.
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I feel like I have big shoes to fill now, but yeah, I'm doing so well.
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So happy that Joe Dispenza brought us together.
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How do you do Joe Dispenza, by the way?
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Well, I do.
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I love Joe.
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Joe's the man.
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Yeah, he is the man.
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I had a 15-minute morning meditation that I would listen to every morning, probably for like maybe 20 days just to kind of get in that.
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I was like, last year, I was having like a hard time, a lot of contrasts.
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But he was just keeping me elevated, keeping me neutralized.
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And Joe's the guy.
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He's been through a lot, but he has healed so many souls.
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And what has your experience been with Joe and his retreats?
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Can you kind of speak on that?
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Yeah, so I'll share with the audience like my path with Dr. Joe.
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So I too went through a very bad rock bottom last year.
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And I was at the lowest of the lows.
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You know, I couldn't get myself out of it.
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I entered a pretty deep depression.
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And then one day I was just on YouTube.
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And I remember listening to something of him talking about like, you know, how long are you going to stay in this emotion?
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And something in me was like my higher self came into my body and was like, it's time.
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It's time to heal.
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It's time to change.
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And so that moment I put on a Joe Dispenza meditation.
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It was like a 30-minute meditation.
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And for the first time in six months after I had a really bad, very traumatic breakup, that was what rock-bottomed me.
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And so for the first time after six months, after that meditation, I felt just a little bit of hope for the first time.
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And I was like, this little feeling is what I'm going to hold on to for as long as I can.
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And
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So I went on this journey and I meditated.
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I said, I'm going to do this for 60 days and see if it really works.
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Everyone's saying that you have to be consistent.
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You have to really dive in.
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So, okay, let's go.
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I'm an Aries.
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So it's like, I go all in or not at all.
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And I did it for 60 days.
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And during those 60 days, I would say my depression lifted about 65, 70%.
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I started making more money in my business.
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things started falling into place.
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And I was like, okay, well, is this a coincidence or is it just because I'm getting better?
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Right?
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So I took a little break.
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I took 30 days off and I was doing it sometimes, but every single day is a lot.
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You have to wake up earlier.
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It's not a short meditation.
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I was doing 30 minutes to 40 minutes a day.
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And I was like, okay, so took 30 days off.
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Everything went back down.
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I was just like, huh.
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Okay, so was it the meditations or what?
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So then I took the next 30 days, right?
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It's month four.
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And I'm like, I'm going to go back all in again and see.
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That 30 days, everything went right back up.
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And I'm like, okay, I'm done testing.
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This is not a coincidence.
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I'm in.
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So almost every day since that time, which I guess was probably like eight, nine months ago now, I've done Joe Dispenza meditations.
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And I'm not going to say like Joe changed my life.
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The work that he teaches and how to do it has changed my life.
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And since I've been to two Joe Dispenza retreats, have gone like even deeper, I've manifested so much.
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I mean, I think you can tell when you really look at me now, like I'm happy, like genuinely happy.
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And I'm gonna say that the biggest part of that is that it's not because of anything, but because I just feel whole within.
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And that's really the root of all of his teachings is it teaches you how to feel wholeness without any conditions.
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And that is truly what we're here to experience.
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Like we're here to experience that reflection of what the source feels.
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We are part of the source and the source is wholeness.
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And so when you can feel that wholeness within you,
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you are now genuinely that creator that we're here to be.
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You can manifest, you can create anything that you want because you're creating it from wholeness and not from lack, right?
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We can create from lack, we do all the time.
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It's just not gonna give you the actual feeling that you think it's gonna give you.
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And it's powerful.
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So many downloads in that moment.
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So since we're on the topic of wholeness, I want to get into meditation because I think it's important.
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What is that feeling of wholeness that you feel today that makes you genuinely happy?
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What does that feel like in your body, in your nervous system?
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Can you express or give us the visual of what that might look like for someone who wants to fulfill that in this lifetime?
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Yeah.
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You know, I'm going to try to be careful with my words because I know some people, it's hard to explain a feeling, right?
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It's like asking someone, try and explain like what a pineapple tastes like.
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You're like, you can try, but until you experience it yourself, you're not really going to know.
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For me, it feels like I have everything I need in that moment and I'm connected to everything.
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That's what wholeness feels like to me.
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It's this overarching feeling of oneness.
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And when you feel connected to everything and like you have everything you need, you're not searching for anything.
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You're not saying,
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I want money.
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I want love.
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I want
Abundance Beyond Material Wealth
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friends.
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You feel like you are that.
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There's no separation between it.
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And so for me, it just feels like my most natural state.
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But in this 3D realm, there's density.
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There's separation.
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I mean, it's not a bad thing.
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Nothing is good or bad, right?
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It's all the source.
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But it's just what we signed up for in this video game.
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We're here to experience that separation, to find that deeper level of wholeness.
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And the only way that the source could experience it itself, you know, it was one and it said, I'm bored.
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I want to experience more.
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So it created many.
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And now it's having the perspective of many.
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And that's exactly what we're here to do.
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We're not here to do anything but experience a new perspective and as many experiences as we can.
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Yeah, and it's beautiful because life is full.
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You always tell people, I don't need anything because I have everything and everything is within and I'm whole and I'm complete.
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I'm fulfilled, which makes me genuinely happy, right?
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I am meditation.
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I don't have to meditate.
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I am meditation when you feel that wholeness that you spoke on.
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What is your definition of meditation versus the perception of meditation?
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Cause I feel like you're so embodied and ingrated in meditation where.
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Yeah.
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Like once you get in it, you tap right into whatever that beta base and you become whatever you need to become to get where you need to go.
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I feel like unconsciously, you know, you just.
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How to get there.
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Yeah, I do.
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Yeah.
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But I will say I know and I'm very confident in that, but I've also sat with myself for dozens and dozens of hours.
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I've probably sat with myself for days and really sat with that feeling and understood what it was like and learned how to do it.
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So I think, no, I know what true meditation is, is pure presence.
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It's not looking for anything.
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It's not thinking about anything.
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When you learn how to find, you know, Joe Dispenza calls it the generous present moment.
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It's why is it generous?
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It's because in that moment, you have everything you need.
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Like if me and you can really be in this moment right now and everybody listening, this moment, listen, like listen to my words.
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Don't think about anything else.
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You actually have everything you need right now.
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You have food, right?
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You're clearly listening to a podcast.
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You have all your needs met in this moment.
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And if you actually just stay here instead of thinking about this and that and X, Y, Z and your worries and what you're going to do tomorrow and what you need to do after you listen to this podcast, that will take care of itself.
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But the true meditation, it doesn't need to be done with your eyes closed.
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It can just be, I'm purely present.
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I'm right here.
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And that is actually what enlightenment is.
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It's just being present.
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I think you said something I've never heard said like this before.
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Presence means that you have everything you need in the moment.
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Yep.
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That's what wholeness is.
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You have everything you need in the moment.
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We focus on what we don't have in every moment, so we can't be present.
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We can't meditate.
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You got to put that out somewhere.
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Is that in a book?
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Is that on another podcast?
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Because if people can just understand that,
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You point that terminology and that language, they can integrate the presence more of like, look around.
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You have a phone, you're listening to a podcast, you have your senses, you have everything.
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I mean, in any moment, you can drop into any dimension, right?
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You can drop into the dimension of lack.
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You can say, yeah, Kristen, but I have $50 in my bank account and I don't have the clothes that I want.
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Like you can drop into that dimension.
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There's times where I feel still lack, right?
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Like even though I am so abundant or I can say, I'm literally never going to run out of air.
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Like literally I'm never going to run out of air.
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I'm so abundant in air and I have 10 pairs of shoes right there.
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And my dog's love is never going to run out for me.
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Like there's so many ways that you can actually find abundance in every moment.
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This is what being the creator is.
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It's where do you want to direct your focus?
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You can be in lack or you can be in abundance.
Finding and Following Your Soul Purpose
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And when I learned, like during the rock bottom, I was really recoding my lack and my abundant mindset.
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I really want everyone to hear this because it might be the most important thing if you have a lack mindset.
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Abundance and money are different.
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Like really hear that.
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Oh, hey, whoa, say that again.
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Abundance and money are different.
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I can have $5 but still be the most abundant person in the room.
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And I can have $5 million and be the poorest person in the room.
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Yeah, I see.
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Some people so rich, all they have is their poorness.
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That's all.
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Their mind and their energy.
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That's all.
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When I quit my corporate job, you know, I was looking at all my friends who had their cushy, you know, and it was an eco death for me.
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I worked at Under Armour.
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I was so proud of it.
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I'm like, I manifested this, like I have this beautiful corporate job.
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And when I quit my job, you know, five years ago, and I decided to be an entrepreneur, I was teaching yoga full time.
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You know, I was like, I'm an entrepreneur.
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I'm teaching yoga full time.
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Like I was living more like less than paycheck to paycheck.
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I was using some of my savings to cover my costs.
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And I would see my friends getting off of work at 6 p.m.
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after going to the gym, going to take a shower, going to make dinner, going home, doing it all over five days a week.
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I felt richer than all my friends because I did whatever the fuck I wanted during the day.
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I taught a couple yoga classes.
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I went home.
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I made content.
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I felt so rich, even though I was the poorest one out of all my friends.
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Now, I like to think that I'm killing it, but it's a mindset.
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Abundance is a mindset.
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Yeah.
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And it's interesting because I think people want more of that, right?
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Because I tell people, I said, you know, at 22, I came to LA, I went for it, right?
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Like, but all is in, I'm going for my dreams and I hit a lot of those things, but I don't feel the way they look.
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So I always say success is getting what you want.
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Fulfillment is doing what you're made for.
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And I think what you're speaking to and what people need to take in is that what do you really love?
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What are you passionate about?
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And what makes your soul feel happy?
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Because if you can move more to that space, even if you still have the job, you'll probably have a little more sprinkle of happiness over here.
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Because it's about your soul purpose, not what you think your life purpose is.
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So I know you talk about purpose and finding your soul purpose.
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Can you speak on what you did to tap into the purpose of your soul to kind of be living abundant like you are now and being authentic and transparent about any and everything with no resistance or no fear?
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How did you get to that point?
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Like what, you know, you said Joe, the spend the meditation, but now you just send this, you're at bat and you hitting the ball every time you get up.
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It's like, well, we don't be winning every game and we might be hitting home runs.
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Yeah, you know, I think that I don't know if there's any other reason we're in human bodies other than to fulfill our soul's purpose.
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And I want to use these words lightly because it's not like, this is my purpose in this moment, but your purpose, everyone's purpose is an evolution, right?
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So at the time, my purpose was my corporate job.
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And that was teaching me so many soul lessons.
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And so if somebody is looking for their soul's purpose, my biggest and best advice for you is,
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Stop focusing on finding the one thing and focus on just the next step that your soul is telling you to do.
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So I like to tell my story because it's a really, really good reminder that things need to evolve into something bigger and they need time and change.
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there's steps to your purpose, right?
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So a good example.
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So let's like kind of just dial back to my first corporate job at Under Armour, which we, you know, me and you connected on because I was like, I lived in Baltimore too.
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And I have that four years in Baltimore that just kind of, I feel like maybe connects us a little bit.
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But I worked at Under Armour and while I was at Under Armour,
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I have a double major in supply chain and finance.
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That's what I went to school for because I thought that was going to make me successful.
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My dad told me, be in business.
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And I was like, okay.
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So I get this double major.
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I go get a supply chain job.
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I hate it.
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So I moved to finance.
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I hate it.
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I moved to another job in finance.
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I hate it.
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I was about to quit my job.
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And my mom was like, please just try one more thing before you leave it.
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And if you don't like it, then you can leave.
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And I won't say anything.
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So I tried a job in HR.
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Again, I hated it.
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At this point, I had been in the corporate world for four years, tried everything under the sun, and I was deeply, deeply, deeply depressed.
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So this is a really good moment where you can reflect if anybody's trying to find their purpose.
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If you're feeling depressed, if you're feeling sad, if you're feeling stuck, if you feel like you don't want to be at the next level of your job, it's probably not for you, right?
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You have to listen to your soul.
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Our soul speaks to us all the time.
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We just are so committed to the logical thing versus the intuitive, emotional thing, right?
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Our soul speaks to us through our emotions.
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And so finally, I hit that cracking point, that dark night of the soul where I can't be at this cube for any more days.
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I can't do it.
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I feel like my soul is dying.
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And I did.
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I felt like my soul was just shriveling up and becoming nothing.
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And so...
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Then I quit my corporate job and I decided to become a full-time yoga teacher.
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I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to figure it out.
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And I just trusted that I would know what to do when.
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And then I quickly got burned out at that.
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And then I scaled back my teaching and I started a freelance marketing business where I was doing social media for all the small businesses in Baltimore.
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I had like four or five businesses that I was doing their social medias.
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And so I was doing yoga and my freelance marketing business.
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But it felt weird to like...
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also build something for someone else that I didn't really care about.
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So I knew that that wasn't really my thing.
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And it wasn't also pulling in the amount of money to give me the comfortable life that I wanted.
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And so then COVID hit.
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And so all of the marketing dollars obviously go to the trash and the yoga studio closes down and I'm SOL, right?
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I'm shit out of luck.
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And I'm like, okay, what's next?
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So I go inward again and I'm like, what is my soul calling me to do?
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And at the time I had been taking like a life coaching course because everyone would come to me for advice, like no matter what, since I was younger, like everyone would just come to me and they'd be like,
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What should I do or tell me how to handle this?
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And so I was doing that, but I was never really thinking that I was going to do anything with it.
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I was just like, this is something that I'm interested in, but I'm kind of too scared.
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And then when COVID hit and I had no way to make money, my soul just pushed me off the cliff and was like, do or die.
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I had to.
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And that was four and a half years ago now, maybe four, yeah, four or four and a half years ago.
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And it worked.
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I'm now a spiritual mentor.
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I have a podcast.
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I host retreats around the world.
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Like it's evolved, right?
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My point of telling my story is if I had left Under Armour and said, what is my soul's purpose?
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I need to know.
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I have to know before I quit this job because I need that certainty.
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I would have never found this.
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It was a progression.
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It was all giving me skills that led to this.
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And so I try to shy people away from finding that one soul's purpose and more focusing on presence and saying, what is the next step?
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Because when you're living in pure presence, it's actually gonna end even better than you could ever imagine, even that you could plan out.
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Like what I'm doing now and how I'm doing it
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is so much bigger than I could have thought up for myself back then.
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Yeah, and the thing is, you said something in your story that stood out.
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You said the word trust.
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Trust what comes through, trust what you know.
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So you said trust.
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I'm like, hmm, I'm gonna ask a question like that.
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And then you said you were doing something that you love to do, but it wasn't for yourself.
Trusting the Unknown and Embracing Growth
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And it's a lot of us out there that are great at something that we're doing for others, but we don't know how to do it for ourselves with the same passion.
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So my question to you, how does a person,
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Get into a trustful state where they trust what's coming through.
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They trust the intuitive hits and the nudges.
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And how do they be passionate about doing something for themselves?
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Like, what does that look like?
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Because I think that's a challenge for most people.
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Lack of trust.
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And I can't give to myself the way I give to others.
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Yeah.
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Trust is a practice.
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Like anything else, it doesn't come overnight.
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It comes over consistent action.
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And I love to use this analogy to describe self-trust.
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So let's say me and you are new friends, right?
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Let's say we're hanging out and we just meet at some random event in LA.
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And I'm like, Eric, let's hang out.
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And you're like, yeah, yeah, totally.
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So I'm like, okay, let's get coffee 10 a.m.
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Sunday.
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And you're like, yes, for sure.
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So we go, we plan to get coffee Sunday.
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I'm sitting there at 9.55, ready to go.
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And you shoot me a text.
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I totally forgot.
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I'm so sorry.
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Can we do later this week?
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So I'm like, okay, annoying, but I'll just get my coffee, go home.
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Cool.
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Yeah.
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So cool.
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Later this week.
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We plan on Wednesday morning.
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Then Tuesday night, you send me a text 10 p.m.
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You're like, hey, I'm going to be out late tonight.
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I don't think I can get coffee in the morning.
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I'm so sorry.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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And then you're like, let's plan for this weekend.
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Then the weekend rolls around.
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I don't hear from you.
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Friend to friend, do you think I'm going to have any trust in you?
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Yeah, no.
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No, because you are not doing what you said you were going to do.
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Now, I love this analogy because we have to flip this back on ourselves.
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Self-trust is not built in big moments where you quit your job and you do all these big things.
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Self-trust is built in small moments.
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It's built in the moment you don't want to go to the gym, but you go anyway.
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It's built in the moment you say, I'm going to start that business and then you buy the domain.
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It's built in very small, seemingly irrelevant moments where
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where you show up for yourself and you say, when I say something, I'm going to do it.
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And when you feel a sense of trust in yourself, you no longer need certainty, right?
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I'm the kind of person where even if I fail, I failed millions of times on this entrepreneurial journey.
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I failed millions of times in my life in certain things.
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And I trust that I will figure it out.
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I don't need to know the certainty because I just trust I'll get through it.
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And when you have that deeper security within yourself, you no longer need to know every step, every move, everything, because you just know you're the type of person that just figures it out.
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Yeah, and it's so beautiful the way you gave that analogy because my entire life, people say, well, what about you?
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I was like, I'm gonna be good, trust me.
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I'm gonna be good no matter what, I'm gonna figure it out.
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But I didn't know that that was me telling myself I trust myself.
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I won't overshare, overgive, overdo because I'm like, I'm good.
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Trust me.
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I'm going to figure it out.
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But I don't know what I was saying.
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I just knew in my heart.
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I didn't believe it.
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There was a knowing.
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No, I'm good.
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Watch this.
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That's trust, right?
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So we got to get back to the place of how do I trust myself in those little moments?
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What is my intuition saying?
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Kristen is inviting me out.
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So I'm the guy who's, you invited me to get coffee, but I didn't trust what came through.
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I don't really want to get coffee.
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So I'm not being authentic and tell you, hey, this week won't work.
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I'm busy.
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Right?
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Instead, I say yes, and I really want to say no.
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So now I'm messing up your trust in me as a friend.
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That's another reason where we don't follow what we feel.
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Exactly.
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At the end of the day, you have to see who you are, right?
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Like, okay, you know, I say on the side, let's go, E. Come on, big dog.
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You say all this.
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Come on, Mr. Positively.
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Jump in.
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Jump in the deep end.
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You know, swim with the sharks.
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And then people are like, well, I'll wait when I do this and I...
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They say success likes speed because slow is complex.
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Let's do it now.
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You talk about so much in that moment.
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I think that's what people really need is trust.
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I mean, trust in everything.
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Trust in relationships, trust in partnerships, trust in themselves, trust in the business.
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And then the masculine thing of it, you will figure it out.
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Yeah, it doesn't matter what you need trust in.
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I think that it's all trusting the unknown.
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When you are not able to trust the unknown, you are constantly grasping for certainty in a literal world that is created for uncertainty.
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That is the easiest way to be fucking miserable on this earth plane, is needing to know what happens next.
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And if you can actually just...
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fucking surrender, like really just say, I don't know what's going to happen next, but I'm so freaking excited because everything just turns out always.
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Okay.
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Then you are in this vibrational space of the universe is going to actually serve you up
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the most magical moments, people's synchronicities, everything, because you're in flow.
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When you're forcing, when you're needing to know, you're not in flow, you're in freaking expectation.
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And that is not a magnetic frequency.
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I don't have the expectation.
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I have appreciation.
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I think that's another one, trust and then surrender.
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So from your paradigm, how does one trust one in their mind and how do two, they trust in their body?
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Because I know, not trust, I'm sorry, surrender in their mind and then surrender in their body, right?
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When it comes to like a relationship, quitting a job, leaving a job or making a big life decision, moving to the other side of the country, how do we surrender?
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Because I dealt with that and that's hard to surrender.
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Like last year, you spoke about your contrast and, you know, Dark Knight of the Soul.
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My fear was I was afraid I'm going to lose everything I created with this false identity that I thought I should be.
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It wasn't the illusion.
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It was fear that was controlling me.
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Once I didn't care anymore, I'm like, whatever happens, happens.
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My life changed.
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But I don't know what I did in my mind and my body.
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I just made a decision and things just changed.
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Yeah, I'll talk about it.
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I'm really good at making systems and processes for these types of things, so I'll talk about it from a few different angles.
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The first angle is there is really a trauma piece to this.
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If you were never taught to trust yourself or your brain is not wired to know that everything is going to be okay, this is where with my clients I use a lot of inner child and emotional regulation work.
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I have this meditation that I created for my clients called return to safety.
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And what you do is you practice the feelings of safety in your body because safety is actually a construct of the mind.
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Like, let's say you even feel safe at a corporate job.
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Well, you're not actually safe there.
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Like they could fire you tomorrow and tell you that they're not going to pay you.
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Like, that's just a construct you're creating that you're safe.
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Right.
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It's not real.
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It's just a construct.
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Right.
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And so you can actually create the construct of safety in your body without any conditions, which is what I'm trying to help my clients do.
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Like the reason that us as entrepreneurs can feel safe, even though we don't know how much money is going to come in this month is because we've created a higher baseline of safety in that unknown.
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So number one, I would say is like training your body and your brain through subconscious work, like inner child or safety work.
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And I have those meditations I can give to your audience as well, that like you can
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create safety, right?
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You create safety within.
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So I would say that's a really good way to start.
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And then what you were saying, you're like, I don't know what I did.
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Well, I do know what you did.
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And what you kind of said at the end is you were like, I thought my biggest fear was that I was going to lose everything from this fake perception that I created.
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But then when I accepted it, then everything fell into place.
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So this is actually a process I use with my clients called worst case scenario work.
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When you can accept the worst case scenario, you will actually no longer be in resistance to the flow of life.
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Oh, Christy, say that again.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Let me explain it a little bit better.
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So let's say that you are scared shitless to quit your corporate job.
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I don't know.
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And you want to start this business and you are having so much fear that
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The way that I would work with it with you is I would say, okay, what's the worst case scenario if you quit your corporate job and this business doesn't work?
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Maybe you're like, okay, I lose the money I invested in the business.
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I've invested $20,000 and then I fail and then I don't have a job.
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Okay, so what would you do after that?
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I don't know, probably get another corporate job.
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We're not saying that this is going to happen, but can you accept that that might happen?
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Can you fully get on board?
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Like, go feel those feelings, like really go there, go there and feel it because the reason you're not wanting to do it is because you think that those emotions are so uncomfortable that you won't be able to handle it.
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Pre kind of like prepare yourself, prepare yourself, go feel that, see what it would feel like, sit there for a second, realize you're still okay and say, okay, if that happens and that's the worst thing, I accept it, but I still want that thing and I don't think that's gonna happen, so I'm gonna keep going.
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Wow.
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And it's so true because it's like radical acceptance.
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Like no matter what, good, bad, or different, I accept all of life.
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Even the parts I don't like about others, myself, the work environment, where I live, how I'm living, unconditional acceptance for all of things.
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And then I don't have nothing controlling me because of fear or what ifs.
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I'm just like, and then you're working with me as a client and I get off a call and next thing you know, I get the biggest email in my life to change.
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Like, oh, we want to move you to the East coast and pay you all this money.
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And it's like, cause we just got through that moment.
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Cause healing happens in an instant.
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Once you shift the paradigm and you just got that, I like, wow, that's all I had to do in your life.
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Yeah.
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Just accept, like just be in that energy of like, I accept.
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And you know, when I was in my rock bottom, like really deep into it, I don't know if, you know, I'm sure so many people have gone through a very bad rock bottom.
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When you're really deep into it and you can't see a way out, like it's moment to moment.
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Like you have to just get by every single moment.
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And I remember in that rock bottom, I would say when I was feeling so much resistance in my body to my reality outside,
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I would say, I would just go close my eyes and I would get into my heart and I would just say, I accept this moment.
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I accept this moment.
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I accept this experience.
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I accept that we're not together anymore.
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I accept that this is my reality.
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I would just go into an acceptance rant.
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I would feel like 10% better.
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I'd be like, okay, if I accept it, then nothing needs to change when you're in true acceptance.
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When you accept something, you don't no longer need things to change.
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When you accept something, you no longer need things to change.
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That's the ultimate cylinder.
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I accept it.
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Like every time you don't like where you are, when you need something to change, you need the manifestation.
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You need something to be happier in resistance.
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If you just accept exactly where you are, you automatically bring yourself back into the present moment and release all the resistance.
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And then you believe that's why meditation is so great.
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I mean, you can kind of really embody it the way you should and be really present.
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Well, yeah, it neutralizes your vibration.
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It really just brings you back to neutrality.
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Like we can't manifest what we want from a place of resistance.
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We just can't.
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So, you know, you have so much that you give the world.
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You remind me myself in a different way, but it's like you have this information.
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So I was on your social media and you had a, I think it was a thread.
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And you said, if you feel cringe,
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It's okay.
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And you didn't moderate on that.
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Because I think we all feel the cringe.
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Like, I got to do this.
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I don't want to tell this person the truth.
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What is that cringe?
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And what were you saying?
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What is the context you were speaking from?
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I'm not going to lie.
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I don't remember that.
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No.
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I like make so much content every day.
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Like, I feel like I literally just channel shit and just like type it out.
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Like, I just put it somewhere, you know, because it's like, it's just flowing through me.
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And sometimes I'm like, I don't know.
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Somebody needs to hear this, whatever.
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But, you know, I mean, I'll say what's coming through right now is like,
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I think so many people are just scared of emotions.
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They're scared of feeling cringe.
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And it's like, what if you decided that you were okay for one week, one year, feeling uncomfortable emotions?
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How much further would you get in your goals?
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Think about that.
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Like everyone just doesn't do things because they're scared of feeling uncomfortable emotions.
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I tell my clients all the time, the biggest hack to get what you want is to master discomfort.
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That's it.
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Master discomfort.
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If you can be okay feeling cringe, feeling like a failure, feeling like a loser, feeling like no one likes you for a second, if you can be like, these are uncomfortable emotions and I will get through it, now nothing's stopping you.
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You're just going to kill it in life.
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You're not attached to anything.
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I was talking to myself.
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That doesn't matter.
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Yeah, because you feel wholeness within.
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They're going to think and say anyway.
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And it's like so great because you're teaching them how to detach once they embody the uncomfortability of those feelings.
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Like, oh, this is what embarrassing feels like.
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Oh, this is what fears feel like.
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Oh, heartbreak.
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Oh, I felt that before.
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And then you can relate.
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So now, you know, it's not even as deep as you made it in your mind because you have the actual experience of feeling.
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Like, you know, I want to share something with you.
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Like, I feel like everybody went through this dark night of the soul last year for some reason.
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You know, seven, 2023 is a seven is number of truth and psychic.
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And I had a lot of people contemplate suicide last year that was in my life that were coming to me.
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And it would scare me because it's like people I love, they care about.
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I'm like, oh, what?
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Oh God, what's going on?
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I'm trying to find myself.
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I'm having an ego death.
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And now when that thing comes on my doorstep, I'm like, oh, this is easy work.
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What are we doing?
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Because I'm not attached to it because I have information and experience to know, like, I don't have to fear this.
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I can face this with love and like accept why, okay, that's how they're feeling.
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I know what's going on internally, but I don't have to become it to help it.
00:31:47
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I can kind of just hold space and let people be however they are in that moment of feeling uncomfortable.
00:31:53
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But now I'm so confident when I get those calls now, I'm not tripping.
00:31:57
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I'm not out of my body.
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I'm totally present.
00:31:59
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Okay, talk to me.
00:32:01
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Right.
00:32:01
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And they don't know.
00:32:02
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I'm doing a sense of doing Reiki on them and sending them energy and love.
00:32:06
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And I'm just like, yeah, three more.
00:32:08
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And I'm just holding space.
00:32:10
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And then they start crying.
00:32:11
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I'm like, damn, you see, you feel better, right?
00:32:14
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No one's judging.
00:32:16
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And then you're like, but I had to go through that uncomfortable part to what you were saying to feel competent in that moment again in a different way.
00:32:24
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Totally.
00:32:25
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And I think that we had very similar experiences.
00:32:28
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I don't know what your rock bottom was, but I know for me, it's like the level of trust I feel in myself before that rock bottom and after, it's like I had that basic level of self-trust.
00:32:38
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But when you go through something really fucking hard and you realize no one can pull me out of this but me, and then you pick up the pieces off the floor and you glue yourself back together piece by piece, shard by shard, there is a
00:32:52
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whole new level of self-trust that you get.
00:32:54
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Like for me, I'm like, try me.
00:32:57
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I'm like, try me life because you know what?
00:33:00
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Nothing can fucking scare me now because I just went through the hardest year of my life and look at me now.
00:33:06
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I'm thriving.
00:33:07
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Like nothing scares you anymore because you go through it and you learn, I got me.
00:33:13
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I got me.
00:33:14
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Nobody else needs to get me because I got me.
00:33:16
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I'll make it through no matter what.
00:33:18
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And that's amazing.
00:33:19
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And, you know, I got to a point last year, my mom was like, listen, the end of the day is between you and God.
00:33:25
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You can give me all and I can give you my advice from my experience.
00:33:29
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There's no need to tell anyone what I'm going through.
00:33:31
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I just need to trust and know and let go.
00:33:34
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But let's talk about, I want to get into like the plant medicine.
00:33:38
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So I did a cacao in March for my birthday and it really opened up my mind, right?
00:33:44
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I already tapped in, but I was now to tune me into a different way.
00:33:47
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And what happened for me, fear like left my body.
00:33:52
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Mama Cacao was talking to me and like fear just left.
00:33:54
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And I'm like, oh, everything is fear to keep us from remembering who we are.
00:33:59
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And then now within a few days, I'm going to go to Peru to do St.
00:34:04
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Pedro.
00:34:04
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But I want to know what's your journey on plant medicine?
00:34:08
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How has it helped your life?
00:34:09
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And do you think most people should do it?
00:34:12
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Like, what is your experience?
00:34:14
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Yeah.
00:34:14
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So I love that you did, that cacao broke you open because cacao is such a gentle medicine.
00:34:20
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So anyone who's like wanting to maybe even just dip their toes, I think cacao is like a beautiful place to start.
00:34:25
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It's not a psychedelic, it's just a heart opener and it really just cracks you open.
00:34:29
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And so I've worked with cacao for years.
00:34:31
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That's probably like where my journey started.
00:34:33
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I never really realized it.
00:34:35
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And then, you know, in the last couple, I really created a beautiful relationship with magic mushroom psilocybin.
00:34:43
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And I've done several heroic doses now.
00:34:47
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And I will say that, you know, I've been on my spiritual journey.
00:34:49
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I had my spiritual awakening when I was 17.
00:34:51
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So I think that's where the depth of me comes from.
00:34:54
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You know, most people awaken in their 20s or even late 20s, like 17.
00:34:58
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I was in freaking high school, you know, it's been a long time.
00:35:01
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And so the reason I'm bringing that up is because...
Psilocybin and Profound Spiritual Experiences
00:35:04
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Mushrooms have been the most profound teacher I've ever had.
00:35:07
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It's my biggest spiritual teacher.
00:35:09
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I learned more on a six-hour mushroom trip than I did 10 years on my spiritual journey, reading books, doing work on myself.
00:35:16
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Like truly, it is such a powerful medicine.
00:35:21
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I mean, there's so much we could talk about.
00:35:23
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I'll kind of wrap it with mushrooms give you what you need, not what you want.
00:35:27
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And it's like you could go in and you could want to have this experience and blah, blah, blah.
00:35:33
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And like you could have all these expectations and mushrooms might make you look at the one thing that you've been avoiding for 10 years.
00:35:38
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You know what I mean?
00:35:39
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And that's exactly what you needed.
00:35:41
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They're so intelligent and so...
00:35:44
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Right now, I am big in microdosing.
00:35:46
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I have a microdosing practice right now, and I've taken a little bit of time off of like the big doses because I did quite a few last year and early this year that I do think that I just need to integrate because it can take a year to integrate all the lessons that you learn in that six-hour trip.
00:36:01
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I can't speak highly enough of them.
00:36:04
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As for, you know, you said, should everyone do them?
00:36:06
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Absolutely not.
00:36:07
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Like if you're not feeling called to them, then the medicine calls to you.
00:36:11
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It's such an intuitive thing.
00:36:14
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And I think that it actually could be very harmful for people to like do it when they're not ready or when they haven't done their inner work.
00:36:20
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Because, you know, you think about when people say like, I had a bad trip.
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My genuine feelings about that are,
00:36:28
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One, if you're disrespecting the medicine, like doing it a large dose in a setting that it shouldn't be done, that can happen.
00:36:34
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But number two, like bad trips for me are things came up that I wasn't ready to deal with.
00:36:40
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That's what a bad trip for me feels like is like, it's not a bad trip is you just haven't, you can't find the awareness where you're able to close the loop and understand why it happened.
00:36:50
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And so I like to, yeah, I don't know.
00:36:53
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Do you have any other questions about it?
00:36:55
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That's
00:36:55
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No, I mean, it's beautiful.
00:36:56
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I think you said, like you said, you should do it when you're called to.
00:36:59
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Like I'm always against it.
00:37:01
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I mean, I got friends in Tulum and all these places in the world.
00:37:03
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And I'm like, hold on.
00:37:04
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So you're doing ayahuasca, but your life's not changing.
00:37:06
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I don't get it, bro.
00:37:07
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I'm doing something in my life not changing.
00:37:09
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I like to execute and apply and integrate and embody.
00:37:12
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How's your life not changing?
00:37:14
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Oh, man, it's just crazy, but your life is still the same.
00:37:16
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So tell me why does it benefit?
00:37:19
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So my thing is, we're going through the dark night of the soul and experience all this loss and rebirth.
00:37:26
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I met someone where we're in the lines like, oh, you should do cacao.
00:37:29
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I'm thinking like, oh, cacao is chocolate, like dark chocolate, right?
00:37:32
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And then from there, it just really opened me up.
00:37:35
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And I'm like...
00:37:37
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Okay, and then my spirit was like in Joshua Tree and I did my cacao ceremony.
00:37:41
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Before I did the cacao, I had this heart in around my heart.
00:37:45
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It was from my relationship and friendships that I had to let go and it was just hard.
00:37:50
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I never told him I was afraid, I wanted to go to the hospital, but it was really hard.
00:37:54
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I'm like, this is kind of odd.
00:37:56
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I said, maybe I'm just broken and I just need to heal.
00:37:59
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And, you know, probably like 30 minutes in or maybe 15, I started really like, it's like something started to like remove itself.
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Like it's not hard.
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And then, you know, I looked at, you know, my friend was, you know, guiding it for me.
00:38:11
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And I just like, you really sold me for who I was.
00:38:13
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And I can trust people getting out to start crying.
00:38:16
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Yeah.
00:38:16
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Your heart opened.
00:38:17
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The heart is the portal.
00:38:18
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Yeah.
00:38:19
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And I was just like.
00:38:21
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And then from there, while I was in the hospital retreat, I was like, correct, I got to get to Peru.
00:38:25
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But I didn't know why.
00:38:27
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A day later, she was saying, like, I just got the offer from the ancestors.
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I can offer you this.
00:38:32
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You should come to my retreat.
00:38:33
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Just come.
00:38:34
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We have a space for you.
00:38:35
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Get your flight.
00:38:36
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It's something to cure.
00:38:38
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And I'm like, wow.
00:38:39
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I got to go on calls, right?
00:38:41
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And so now I'm just in a space of like, okay, this medicine I know is not only going to help me, but help my soul family and the people that's connected to who I am in this lifetime.
00:38:51
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And like you said, it's all information, right?
00:38:53
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And download from the cosmos and your ancestors.
00:38:56
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And I believe I'm here to raise the frequency of humanity.
00:38:59
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And I just want to continue to connect with the medicine in an authentic way that I'm called to do it.
00:39:05
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But everything is not for everybody.
00:39:07
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And I think what you do and what you offer to the world is what people need to hear because I like how you break things down.
00:39:14
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You make things make sense.
00:39:17
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And I think there's a lot of people who have knowledge, but they don't know how to articulate the knowledge, nor do they know how to integrate the knowledge.
00:39:24
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So they'll throw that always on this hamster wheel of reading the books, meditating, going to retreat with nothing.
00:39:29
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It's changing.
00:39:30
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So can you share with the audience from your world, how do you get someone to really embody the medicine of whatever you're teaching so they can get it and you're not always coming back to recondition or reprogram them with information?
00:39:47
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What's the best way to embody something?
00:39:49
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I've really been thinking about this lately, this idea of what mastery is.
00:39:53
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Because I think that in this day and age when there's so much information, there's so many books to read, there's so many courses to take, it's like we just want the information and we want to go to the next thing.
00:40:03
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And for me, what I really try to do is I'm like, how do I master this information?
00:40:09
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I don't want new information until I master this information.
00:40:12
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Like, I want to sit with this.
00:40:15
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I want to master it.
00:40:16
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And I think that there's not one right way for anything to change.
00:40:21
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But I think that, you know, back to, I think we were talking about this before we started recording.
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It's like, we have to have integrated masculine and feminine energy.
00:40:29
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That feminine energy is that more
00:40:32
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intuitive flow receiving the downloads like the getting the information right that can be more of like the feminine energy but the masculine energy is the taking action on it and i think that truly the reason i am where i am and i have
00:40:47
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so many things that I have thought or got downloaded into my mind is because I have a very strong masculine.
00:40:53
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And I think people shy away from masculine these days because they sometimes think, you know, it's all about feeling good and receiving and just get downloads and just like follow the path of least resistance.
00:41:05
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But it's not always that.
00:41:06
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Like sometimes your highest timeline is actually the path of most resistance.
00:41:11
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And I really want people to hear that.
00:41:12
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Like
00:41:13
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Sometimes your highest timeline is going to be the hardest in the moment, but the most fulfilling at the end.
00:41:18
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And so I think that whatever you're going through, whatever you're trying to master, ask yourself, like, what would it look like to master this?
00:41:27
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Let's say you're building self-trust.
00:41:29
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What would it look like to master self-trust?
00:41:32
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Maybe for three freaking months, you need to be hyper-disciplined.
00:41:37
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And then it will, you know, the pendulum will swing back in the middle.
00:41:39
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But like,
00:41:40
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Mastery is a, I don't know, it's like a forgotten art.
00:41:45
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Why did we forget to really sit with things and master them?
00:41:48
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That's the ultimate thing that all relationships are missing.
00:41:51
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It's mastery.
00:41:52
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We don't master ourselves, therefore we can't master the relationship that we want to be in.
00:41:56
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So if I don't love myself the way I need to, I cannot expect you to do it if we're in an partnership.
00:42:02
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Exactly.
00:42:04
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I think when people get into bondage or get into buying in a relationship, they're having all these expectations, but no one knows who they are.
00:42:11
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They don't have the divine master and the divine feminine to be a divine union is even distorted, wounded, or toxic, right?
00:42:18
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Because we have forgotten mastery.
00:42:21
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How do we master oneself?
00:42:23
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How do we master this thing that's sitting in front of?
00:42:25
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These patterns keep coming up.
00:42:27
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And I think the truth is that most of us are afraid of our power.
00:42:32
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Right?
00:42:32
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Yeah.
00:42:33
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That's all the time.
00:42:34
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What are you afraid to tell the truth?
00:42:36
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You're afraid you're going to hurt someone's feelings?
00:42:38
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Maybe their feelings need to hurt you.
00:42:40
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Maybe they need to be healed from your truth because you've been a people pleaser all your life.
00:42:45
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You have feelings.
00:42:46
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Or maybe you need to be calm because you're always angry and abrasive.
00:42:49
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Maybe that's how you're going to heal.
00:42:51
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Yeah, right?
00:42:51
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Yeah.
00:42:52
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But it's like we shy away from the thing we need the most.
00:42:55
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It's tough, but it don't have to be.
00:42:57
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Yeah.
00:42:58
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And I think that's like, you know, where, thank God we're going is like these, what I call 5D relationships.
00:43:03
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It is these two people that come together from a place of wholeness.
00:43:07
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It's not needing, it's like not needing to be in a relationship so that you complete me, so that I feel whole, that I feel worthy, that I feel good enough, that I feel chosen.
00:43:16
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It's like, I need to learn how to do that on my own.
00:43:19
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And
00:43:20
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then I'm going to see the reflection of someone being in their wholeness too.
New Paradigms in Relationships and Emotional Openness
00:43:25
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And that's actually what divine union is, right?
00:43:27
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So I think it's beautiful that there are men like you that are leading with their heart.
00:43:33
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When I went to Joe Dispenza, I don't know if you listened to that podcast episode, I said, for the first time in my entire life, I saw what a man with an open heart looks like.
00:43:44
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The first time, you know, I thought I knew I saw all these Instagram and no offense, you know, like it just like when you see it online, it's not the same.
00:43:50
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But meeting all of these tapped in entrepreneurial men that are sitting there with themselves for seven days, hands on their heart, tears in their eyes, happy because of no one but them.
00:44:02
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I'm like,
00:44:03
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That's it.
00:44:04
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You know, I didn't know it existed, but it did.
00:44:06
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And so I think that there's a new paradigm of relationship and everybody wants it, but nobody wants to sit with themselves and all their shit and feel that wholeness without like, I
00:44:18
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I'm just going to be straight.
00:44:19
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This path to wholeness, it's not easy, right?
00:44:22
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I'm telling all the highlights and I'm just sharing as a teacher.
00:44:24
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But there's moments where I'm lonely as fuck and I'm sitting on my couch and you know what I have to do is I don't want to go inward.
00:44:33
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I don't want to go sit with my heart, but I go sit my butt down on my couch and I put my headphones in and I say, Kristen, open your freaking heart and don't get up until you feel like the most hole you've ever fell in your life.
00:44:45
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And it's those moments that I build the deepest self-trust with myself because you think that's what I want to be doing on a Tuesday night.
00:44:53
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I want to binge Netflix.
00:44:54
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I don't want to sit with my heart for an hour, but I have such a deep relationship with myself.
00:44:59
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I'm like, you will not get up until you feel whole.
00:45:04
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And I get up and I am just in bliss.
00:45:06
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I'm like, I feel happy and it's because of nothing.
00:45:09
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Nothing changed outside, but I changed.
00:45:12
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Yeah, and it's the best feeling because I realize in my awakening and my awareness and my growth, I've noticed my language with women if I'm dating someone, if I'm saying I want to see them.
00:45:22
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The person who's not whole and complete and authentic, who don't want to show his feminine side of what he wants, he says, oh,
00:45:30
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What you doing?
00:45:31
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What you doing tomorrow?
00:45:32
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You know, like beat around a bush instead of saying, hey, I would love to see you tomorrow.
00:45:36
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I miss hugging you.
00:45:37
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Can we set time to get together?
00:45:39
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You see, it's a different energy.
00:45:41
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I'm only like, look, I want some affection from your energy.
00:45:44
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I want to hold you.
00:45:45
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Can we meet up instead of, hey, I think we should hang out.
00:45:48
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You think you're free?
00:45:49
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Like, what are you saying, bro?
00:45:50
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When men can kind of fall more into the, you know, divine feminine trust with their feeling,
00:45:56
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And like, listen, Kristen, I don't really know how to receive or ask for help.
00:46:00
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So that's why I don't never ask because I'm afraid I'm going to get hurt.
00:46:03
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Oh, really?
00:46:04
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I didn't know that.
00:46:04
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Instead of me acting like I don't need anything where I need everything.
00:46:08
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Sure.
00:46:09
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And what I loved about what you said in your example is when you're beating around the bush, it's coming from a place of lack.
00:46:15
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You're like, I want to see you, but I don't want to feel rejected if you don't want to see me too.
00:46:20
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That's the underlying message, right?
00:46:22
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Whereas if you just ask for what you want, it's coming from this place of sovereignty where you're like, hey,
00:46:28
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You're what I want.
00:46:29
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And if you don't feel like this is in alignment for you, I'm still going to be okay.
00:46:34
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I'm not scared of the rejection because I feel whole already, like nothing outside.
00:46:38
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Right?
00:46:38
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You might, we're human.
00:46:39
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We might feel a little bit rejection or sad that it didn't work out, but you keep going.
00:46:43
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Like everyone is just going to keep going and we move on.
00:46:47
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Yeah.
00:46:47
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And I tell people all the time, I say, you can't change my feelings about you with me because of what you did.
00:46:52
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Your behavior don't change my feelings.
00:46:54
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I'm going to still love you regardless because I see where you at.
00:46:56
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Now, I might not tolerate that, but I still love you.
00:46:59
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It wasn't bad in the moment.
00:47:01
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We can't go to the next phase, but guess what?
00:47:03
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Thank you for holding space in the time you did.
00:47:04
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Because I feel like when people have separation or breakup, it's always the bad stuff.
00:47:10
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But I can't remember the good things.
00:47:11
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Yeah.
00:47:12
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And be honest about it.
00:47:13
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Like that contrast or that challenge, challenge you to change so you can be where you are today.
00:47:18
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But it's all love.
00:47:20
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And I think that's what we all want and that's what we all need.
00:47:22
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But we got to be truly authentic about how we feel, especially as men.
00:47:26
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We'd never say how we feel.
00:47:27
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Oh, you can never cry.
00:47:29
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Never just like, bro, like babies cry every day.
00:47:32
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They authentic.
00:47:33
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They're not holding their tears in.
00:47:35
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Yeah.
00:47:35
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And if you have a divine feminine woman, like who's done her work, they don't want this like shell of a man.
00:47:41
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Like we're all human.
00:47:42
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We all have emotions, right?
00:47:44
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That's how we feel connected is sharing emotions.
00:47:46
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And so I think it's beautiful that you're opening your heart and you're going deeper on your journey.
00:47:51
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Like, seriously, I'm so proud of you.
00:47:53
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I'm so proud of your soul.
00:47:54
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And
00:47:55
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I'm so happy that you have such a beautiful platform because I hope that it becomes the norm that men look at you and they're like, that's the cool thing, right?
00:48:04
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Like that's cool to have an open heart because it's not fucking cool to walk around as a shell of yourself.
00:48:10
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It's just not.
00:48:11
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Yeah, it's not.
00:48:12
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You can't really feel love and you can't really have deep, real combos with women because they want to feel, they want to heal, they want to know, they want to grow.
00:48:21
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But if you're acting like you're good, they can be like, oh, he's fine.
00:48:23
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He doesn't need anything.
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Because that was always the story with me.
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I don't know what you want.
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You didn't ask for anything.
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Because I didn't know how to ask for help.
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Something as small as not knowing how to ask for help.
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I couldn't receive love from a woman.
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Right.
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So I blocked everything where I could have been.
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Right.
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So guess who I have as clients?
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Women.
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Guess who will help me?
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Their energy helps me help them.
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It's crazy, but it makes sense because it's all divine.
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It's all aligned.
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I love that you said that.
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And like, Eve, there's so many reflections that I'm looking at in my past relationships where it's like the guys that I was with, they had no needs.
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You think that they really had no needs?
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Like they never asked me for anything.
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And it's like, no, they just had a closed heart and didn't know how to tap into that.
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And so it's...
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so important for us to be having these dialogues, man to woman, you know, divine feminine to divine masculine, because it really, we need each other to grow, not like me and you, but we need relationships.
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Like we all grow through relationships.
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We didn't come on this incarnation to just be alone.
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We came to learn through mirrors.
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And unfortunately, relationships are the hardest mirrors, but they're also the place where your soul gains the most wisdom and depth and texture.
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Kristen, this was beautiful.
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Thank you so much for your authenticity, your wisdom, substance.
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Oh, it's nothing like saying a woman with substance.
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Yes.
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Universe, show me more women with substance.
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We love having these deep dive and conversations.
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However, how can we get connected to you?
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How can somebody wants to work with you?
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Do you have meditation?
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Do you have a league magic?
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We want to be a part of your world because you got it, you give it, you are it.
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I just love what you do because you show up so raw.
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And I'm like, I love that.
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You're so you that it's easy to be in your energy because you don't got no BS with what you're bringing.
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You're coming clear, direct, and like, this is who I am.
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Yeah.
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Thank you so much.
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It was a practice.
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So I'm really excited.
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And I'm going to reflect that right back to you.
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Like I've said, I know I just met you, but I'm just so proud of you for being your full authentic self on your path.
Kristen's Offerings and Invitation
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And it's not easy to be
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so open with all your emotions when you have a big platform and
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Yeah, just keep doing it.
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So thank you.
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You can find me on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, all at Kristen.such, whatever you want to say.
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I get both.
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So he'll link it below.
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I also have plenty of meditations you can find on my website, kristinsuch.com.
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And then you can also listen to my podcast, Alignment Academy podcast.
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You'll have to come on, Eric, when we both get back from our trips.
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When you need it.
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I have a Costa Rica retreat called Cosmic CEO for Spiritual Entrepreneurs in like a week and a half.
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So I leave next week.
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Yeah.
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So my podcast and then yes, you can work with me.
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You can find all the ways that you can work with me.
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There's so many.
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I have masterclasses.
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I have courses.
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You can work with me one-on-one.
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Just go to my website, kristinsuch.com and you'll find all the info.
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You can book a call if you're interested and I can help you find what's right for you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Guys, again, follow her.
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Tap in with her energy and her frequency.
00:51:43
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This was a phenomenal episode.
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We went in and we went up.
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We went wide.
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We pulled deep.
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All into the cosmos.
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Still in the mask and then everything in between.
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Just thankful for you.
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Bigger Talks podcast.
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Another episode.
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Shout out to Simplify Impact, who does all my marketing.
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Experts in that field.
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Click the link in this show notes for their expertise.
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And it'smiracleseason.com.
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CEO, get you some merch and always follow Kristen and listen to her on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram.
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And there's another talk, Bigger Talks episode.
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Peace and love.
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We're out.
00:52:18
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