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S2:E2 - The Princess Bride by William Goldman (1987 Film)
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Join us for a trip to Florin as we continue our Month of Love with a fairytale that’s equal parts comedy, romance, and inconceivable adventure! We dive into William Goldman’s timeless classic The Princess Bride—both the novel and the beloved film adaptation. From sword-fighting Spaniards to R.O.U.S.s, we break down the moments that made us swoon, laugh, and maybe even exclaim “As you wish!”
Hosted by Crystal with co-hosts Keri and Lindsey.
Books & Adaptations Mentioned:
- The Princess Bride by William Goldman
- The Princess Bride (1987 Film)
- As You Wish: Inconceivable Tales from the Making of The Princess Bride by Cary Elwes
- Home Movie: The Princess Bride (2020 Mini Series)
Question of the Episode:
- “If they remade The Princess Bride, who would be in your dream cast?”
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Chapters:
(00:00) Introductions
(2:03) Let’s talk book ratings
(9:43) The Princess Bride Book vs. Movie Breakdown (SPOILERS)
(1:30:16) Final Verdicts
(1:30:59) Question of the Episode
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Transcript
Introduction to 'Based on a Book'
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to this chapter of Based on a Book.
Exploring 'The Princess Bride' Themes
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This episode we're going to cover fencing, fighting, torture, poison, true love, hate, revenge, giants, hunters, bad men, good men, beautiful ladies, snakes, spiders, beasts of all natures and descriptions, pain, death, brave men, coward men, strongest men, chases, escapes, lies,
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Truth, passion, miracles. I'm your host, Crystal, and I am not left-handed. As you wish, Carrie's here, and I brought plenty of R-O-U-S rants of unusual scenes. Ho there, I'm Lindsay, Fezzik at heart, rhyming on cue. Anybody want a peanut? Because I sure do.
Crystal's Connection to 'The Princess Bride'
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Oh that's right folks this week we are covering The Princess Bride the book by William Goldman and the movie adaptation screenplay also written by William Goldman and directed by Rob Reiner. This is one of my all-time favorite books.
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ever. Go ahead. Carrie Lindsay let it out. That was f freaking hilarious. I'm sorry gary so glad you worked peanut into that. That's my favorite probably line and that's just it. How many lines from this movie are just lines you've heard a thousand times in your life, right? Like most of the movie. yeah Because this is just a classic movie and I am so excited to cover this.
Book vs. Movie Differences
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Most people my age because that's when it came out was in the mid 80s.
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like we all have grown up with this movie but as I talked to my friends to tell them like hey we're doing the Princess Bride we're doing the Princess Bride no one had read the book so in fact even though it says very clearly in the very beginning of the movie based on the book written by William Goldman nobody even seemed to like a handful people were like I didn't know there was a book you know so I'm really excited to do this one and I can't wait to talk about it with you guys I want to know what you think and how you rated it. I want us to talk about how we rated the book first. I think we can all agree that with or without the any ratings on anything, the movie's worth watching. so we're just gonna Everybody knows that already. We're just going to let that be what it is. Shut up, Lindsay. I see that face. You didn't like the movie? What? No, I love the movie. Oh, okay. Just making sure. I was like, what is she making that face? That's just my face. That's fair. that's
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All three of us kind of have that that face going on now on that. Okay. So and while we're talking about your face,
Personal Ratings and Opinions
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Lindsay, let's hear what you have to say about the book. Okay. Well, I mean, it's kind of hard. When I did my rating, I really had both in mind because while the writing style is very different from anything that I've read before, I have to say my rating
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pretty much matches the movie. So Domingo Montoya crafted the perfect blade, the six fingered sword. So with my rating, I'm going to give it the one and only six fingered sword, which is the equivalent of five stars.
Carrie's Book Perspective
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Wow. um Okay. well That's so neat. Okay. Okay. Carrie, what did you think?
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okay okay so i have to say that i only like i really try to think back i probably saw the movie I want to say maybe like once or twice. And whenever I was reading the book, I was really trying to remember the movie. So reading the book was an interesting experience because I couldn't remember anything. So I this was like a genuine reaction to the story and kind of not knowing what was going to happen next a little bit. That's cool. Except like some scenes I was like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, I kind of remember that. But the book
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the format, writing style and stuff. And I'm keeping it very separate from the movie. Like I'm doing it's different than Lindsay, keeping it very separate from the movie. This is not how I feel about the movie, but the book itself because of the writing style, giving it three quotable kidnappers.
Nostalgia for the Movie
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Oh, all right. All right.
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i I really struggled to separate the book from the movie. and When I tell you I know this movie by heart, I know this movie by heart. I've seen it every day when I was sick as a kid. It was always showing on cable or satellite television forever, even when I was a teenager. like it I don't want to say it came to me. and bad parts of my life, but there were definitely some sad lonely parts of my life that that it would pop up and it would just be like, okay, I'm home again, you know, it would bring me back to that comforting, you know, soup and on the couch and pillows and grandma's telling me to get, but you know, it just, it there's so much nostalgia with it, that it was really hard for me to separate the movie from this book.
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And then there are so many parts in the book that are word for word in the movie. So every time I would kind of find myself falling out of the book, just being like, and it would snatch me back in again. So I i will say,
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all of my favorite parts from the movie are straight out of the book. And I love that. But also, it was really cool. And obviously, William Goldman, having written the book, and the screenplay kind of helped. He got to keep his favorite parts, you know? Yeah.
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but Also, there were so many parts in it that I just found kind of boring. And I don't know, like, I don't want to say they were unnecessary, but I feel like they didn't add much to the story. So I'm going to say overall, I give the book 3.75 Andre the Giant hugs.
Satirical Style of the Book
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Yeah. And that's how I feel about that.
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Yeah, I totally i totally get why. That's why I think with my rating, it was easy to separate the two because right it was really hard for me to remember what happened in the movie. But I imagine it's really hard to separate it when you've seen the movie so many times.
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A thousand times. Yeah. And honestly, even recently, I think I probably watched it like 30 days ago, just because it was I saw it and I was like, Oh, that's a good one. And just go, you know. Yeah. I watched it with my sister and I will say my sister watched it for the very first time. Oh, that's yeah. what did it so get So what does she think? Oh, good. Oh, good.
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Yeah, she loved it. She better. I was gonna say, I don't know if I could, like, she's no longer in the fan club but if she didn't like out. So let's, I kind of want to talk about the book for a minute and the style of the book before we jump into going through the the plot. The book is satire. And like all good satire, sometimes it's hard to, to believe that it's fiction because it's it's so,
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the the way it's written kind of takes you back to like well well that sounds like it really could be real that sounds like a place that could exist like you know when he talks about his grandfather being from florin you know he talks about like oh the bakery down the street and the authors from there and the college that's there and you know so it kind of like really sets the scene and there were definitely times within the book that I had to ask myself, wait, is this part real and then the other parts fake or is it all? It's all
Confusion and Intrigue in the Book
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fake. It's all fake. When he talks about, you know, his kid and his wife, like none of that is real, but it's still like, it it was a little trippy for the first couple of chapters trying to remind myself
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So I just want to put that out there for anybody who decides to read the book. There's not a single part of this book that is true. It is all fiction. It's it's like a book within a book. About a book. Yeah, about a book, but it's like a fictional book within a book. Right. But then we're supposed to believe that the the fictional book within the fictional book is a history. Yeah.
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so So a history of an know history of a true story. like so it's Yeah. it's very one pride yeah it really There were a few times that I was like, that sounds like it could be real. That sounds like it could be true. like it No, none of it's none of it's true. Not
Love and Frustration with the Book
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a single bit. Even the parts that you're going, oh, well, this part is him telling the truth before he sets up this. No. yeah I will say that there were times where I was like, oh my gosh, I literally love this book. And there were times that I was like, this is boring, three pages. Screw this book. yeah Screw it. I hate it. You pretend just little book. I hate this book. And I wanted to throw it. And then I was like, oh my God, come back. I love this book. I will say
00:09:47
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Basically, the list at the beginning of the story that or the beginning of our episode is the trigger warning list. there' There's a bit of gore, a little bit, and there's some fat shaming that will happen, so if that's so we'll be talking about that. But other than that, I don't have a crap ton of tick trigger warnings. I already mentioned them, unless you guys can think of any.
Trigger Warnings and Plot Setup
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No, I think you. I think that list was pretty exhaustive. Yeah.
00:10:16
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Well, without further ado, we're going to move ahead with the full spoiler plot and our thoughts moving through the book and the movie. And so we have so much to talk about about this movie because there's a lot of material, so much material. But let's start with the book. The opening
Fictional Narrative Introduction
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chapter of the book is the author William Goldman talking about how he came to know the story of the Princess Bride through his father, who is from Florin. Again, none of this is true, folks. There's no real place called Florin. But anyways, in in the in the story, he talks about the narrator. We're just going to call him the narrator. Let's not call him the author, the narrator. The narrator is telling us the story of his father, who is from Florin and doesn't speak very good English, and how he told him, read him this story,
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when he was homesick with pneumonia, and then moves in how much he loved the story. We move through a section of him, then fat shaming his son, bitching about his wife, but somehow wants a connection with his son. So he goes to buy a copy of this book for his son's 10th birthday, thinking, this can be the way I can connect to my son.
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Lo and behold, he gets the book and the son says, i I read the first chapter, but then I stopped at the second and he's all upset because he's like, why didn't you keep reading? It's such a great story. I don't understand you. We're never going to get around. But then he picks it up and he realizes the story that his dad told him is grossly different. His dad had cut out all the boring parts and only read him the exciting stuff.
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so then The narrator decides he is going to write the abridged version, the actual
Movie's Narrative Setup
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exciting fun part, because there was a whole bunch of stuff in there originally that was like begets and begots and the, you know, the stuff that nobody really wants to read and always skips over anyways. So he decided he's going to write this story, the abridged version, and he's already an established author. He already has a publishing house. So he reaches out to them. They say, okay, go ahead, do it. The movie.
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opens with Fred Savage in bed, playing video games, homesick. And his mom comes in and says, your grandfather's here. His grandfather comes in and says, I'm going to read you this story that my father read to me and his father read to him. And Fred Savage is all like, uh, no, like a book. I don't think so. And he's all like, no, it's a great book. It's got fencing. It's got, you know, giants, it's you know, so they kind of start a little differently.
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You guys are both really quiet. I'm waiting for you to jump in and be like, I hated that part or that was really confusing or something. but I feel like you're telling me the story and I enjoy it. i savage
Buttercup and Wesley's Relationship
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Wait a minute. Like we cannot add another layer to this inception. It's too much.
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but Yeah. Well, I was trying to explain it to the people I was watching it with and I was like, this is actually how it is in the book and explaining the layers of it. And there's layers. Yeah, there's a bunch of layers to it. And I'm like, yeah, they can't be putting this in the movie because and honestly, your attention would be gone. So attention's gone. I'm not watching this movie anymore because I don't understand what's going on.
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So then in the movie and in the book, we jump to Buttercup. Buttercup is basically a farm girl. She's like the daughter of farmers. She's a peasant, but she is one of the most beautiful women in the world at the
Character Portrayal Differences
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time, right? She doesn't really realize it. She's kind of like whatever. She doesn't like to bathe. She doesn't want to brush her hair. She's just living on this farm. And Wesley is the like,
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I don't know if he's like a hired hand, but he's just a farm boy. In fact, that's all she calls him is farm boy. She hardly speaks to him. She doesn't want to deal with him. She delights in just making him do more work. Like that's her favorite thing in the world is to just give him something to do. And because she is like the daughter of the landowner or whatever, she gets to boss him around and she just loves that.
00:14:39
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big difference between the movie and the book right off the bat is we are in the movie, it never really comes up. that buttercup might be kind of stupid, but in the book, it's pretty well spelled out that she's dumb. She just, she she doesn't understand, like she can't read very well, she doesn't understand directions that are given to her, she doesn't pronounce words correctly, like she's just kind of dumb. um But one day she she kind of realizes
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that, well, the the her beauty has kind of gotten around, right? People have started talking about how pretty she is. And so this guy, this Count, who we find out later is Count Rugen, but this Count and his wife come to the farm to see her and the Countess notices Wesley and is all like, hey, farm boy.
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so i love this part like Show me how you feed those cows to get such good milk. but And she just like traips through the mud and the muck following
Wesley's Quest for Fortune
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after farm boy and the count doesn't even, he's just like, whatever. And Buttercup is so mad. And Buttercup is like, excuse me, what? That's my farm boy. like Yeah. Yeah. And so she goes to bed and she has this like whole night of can't sleep because she's finally realizing I i love Wesley.
00:16:07
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Yeah, because she saw him with another woman basically like walking around with another woman and right immediately someone else is giving him attention. And then that's when your feelings start i like classic like, Oh, no. And the line where she wakes up the next day and she runs to his little like hut because he like stays in the barn or whatever and she runs out there and she is telling him how much she loves him and she's like it's immeasurable because every moment i feel like i couldn't possibly love you anymore and then two minutes later i i don't understand that i knew that two minutes ago that wasn't even love what i'm feeling now is love and it keeps growing and
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It is written so beautifully for such a um ah a dumb girl. It's the most romantic like declaration of love. It is so beautiful and then he slams the door in her face. and i I closed the book and cackled at this part.
00:17:13
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In the movie, that is not how this goes. In the movie, she's like, every time she tells him to do something, he's like, as you wish. And then one day she realizes that what he's really saying is, I love you. In fact, I'm pretty sure that I just quoted the movie and I didn't mean to.
Buttercup's Despair
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you like i just like this I know this movie. Everyone knows this movie at this point. way Everyone my age is was raised on it.
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But even more beautiful was the day that she realized that she loved him, too. And that was that was kind of it. Like there was no scene of of a declaration. There was no whatever. And there was no count like coming in to see. Yeah, there was no count or countess or anything like that. So in the book, she runs off to her bedroom and is just beside herself and is sobbing. But then she's like, no, get it together.
00:18:10
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You can't be like this. Get over it. And she even realizes inside that there is really no getting over it, but she's going to have to fake it. And then he like shows up that night and is all like, I want to talk to you. And she opens up. She's like, Oh, I'm sorry. I, you must've taken my joke wrong. And I was, I was kidding. And he's like, I'm leaving. And she was like, what? No, like I wasn't kidding. I do love you. You can't leave or whatever. And he's like, I'm going to go to but the Americas. I'm going to sail away and make my fortune and
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and create a life for us so that you can come to me and we'll have a life together, a good life. In the movie, he like straight up is like, I'm going to go seek my fortune on the high seas.
Prince Humperdinck and the Zoo of Death
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wait And then in the book and in the movie, we kind of just instantly like she finds out that His ship was intercepted by the Dread Pirate Roberts, and he takes no prisoners. In the book, like she just crumbles, I will never love again. and in In the movie that's in the book, she like mourns. she Pulls a Bella from Twilight. Pretty much. I'm going to- It's a possibility.
00:19:32
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but she know you know just sitting here and his money going by it's a ah bo yu And that's exactly what's happening. She has like locked herself in her room. She's just going through the motion. She is dead inside. And one day she just comes down. She's in her room for like a week or so. And then one day she comes downstairs and everybody like goes to help her. And she's like, nope.
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I will just go about my life." and And then the prince shows up because the count was like, I know a girl who's pretty hot. So the prince shows up and he's like, oh damn. And he says, I'm going to marry you. And she says, I i can't love anybody. And he's like, I never say anything about love. Can we talk about something real quick? Yes, please.
00:20:21
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Can we talk about how, okay, so whenever I was reading the book, like I said, I honestly was really struggling trying to remember anything about the movie, which was a really fun experience to be honest. And this whole thing of like going back to Prince Humperdink, I keep wanting to say the other thing that I said earlier. Say it, please say it. I keep wanting to call him Prince Humperdink.
Buttercup's Engagement and Training
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anyway Anyways, but this whole Zoo of Death thing, oh my gosh, whenever we whenever I was reading it, I was like, I can't remember this in the movie to save my life. Well, that's because, Carrie, it's not in the movie. It's not in the movie. Okay. And this whole background of this Zoo of Death situation,
00:21:15
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Yeah, that was insane. Yeah, yeah, I will say getting to know the prince better in the book because he is definitely a Much more major character in the book than he is in the movie. Yeah, you get like a whole background of him in the book And I didn't enjoy any of it and I'm not mad that it wasn't in the movie Yeah, like we didn't really need it and he's yeah, he's even like more evil like in the movie He's like a funny evil, you know, i right? Like he's a funny Like stupid evil. Yep in the book. He's like
00:21:53
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He's just straight evil. Yeah, he's like straight evil, like hunter. He's like killing animals for fun. What's the word for someone who has like no emotions? None. What's that? What's that word? I don't know. Like no humanity or something? Like no humanity, no, because he doesn't even really feel joy or sadness. He doesn't really care. He makes a point of like in the book of saying that he fakes looking like he's falling in love with Buttercup because he wants people to believe that he's in love with Buttercup so that he can kill Buttercup. But he doesn't actually feel any of that. He's not he's just completely bad. Yeah. In this like whole like zoo of death thing, I'm like, was this in the movie? like I literally can't remember any of this. and It wasn't at all. No. I was like surprised. so That's where we find out. okay so
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Like the prince has like, I'm gonna i'm gonna marry you. She's like, i'm not I can't love anybody else. And he was all like, I never said anything about love. And she was like, bet. So they run off to the castle and she ends up in like princess school, basically. They make her a princess of some random tiny little hamlet somewhere so that he can officially marry her and they train her up to be a princess for years. This goes on for years. Now
Narrative Style and Distractions
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in the movie,
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We're told that like years go by and then the prince announces he's gonna marry Buttercup. We don't really and Then they they're like, although the prince has the right to marry anyone in the land She did not love him and then ways all they really say The way it's written in the book is really funny because like like we said before, it it's like the abridged version, like he's writing this fake author narrator is writing the abridged version. And in the book, it's like it pauses the story, the main like princess bride story, pauses it to do ex fake explanations on why things were cut out of the fake original story.
00:24:02
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And this drives you insane. Like it literally, it drives you bonkers. It was too much for me. Honestly, that was the part that I was like, I don't like this. i I like anytime he would interject his own thoughts, I was like, ah yeah i's like Oh, he's back. He's back. Oh my gosh, he's back. I want to get back to like, the story. Yeah, not your thoughts on the story. Thank you very much. The fake thoughts. Right. eight ones You're not even your real on the fake story. Like, i I'm gonna I want to discuss the thoughts with my with my ladies, not not with you, dude. yeah Like, yeah, wait, wait. So
00:24:41
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so then we find out like the three years while the you know buttercup is taking princess school prince humper dank is like really getting into his zoo of death right which is like this five
Humperdinck's Hunting Obsession
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layered zoo underground like five levels of underground zoo of death different animals from all over the world that are super deadly that he can hunt in controlled conditions, so it's not really hunting, you dick. You humper dick. Right? So he he's all about hunting. That's his thing. He can hunt anything. He has strategies for and whether it's ah as small as a hummingbird, as big as an alligator. He can hunt it. He can kill it. like He knows its weaknesses, whatever.
00:25:31
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And each level is like, one level is like all the the types of critters that have to live in the dark or all the types of critters that are fast or all the types of critters that are stealthy or whatever. But sub level five is empty because he's saving that for like the the worst predator of predators or whatever. He's saving that for a super special, which corresponds to in what is in the movie, the pit of despair. Yeah.
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I like when I read Zoo of Death, I was like,
Buttercup's Public Interactions
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what the hell? Yeah. This is what I know. What? And then there there was no pit of despair. And then I was like, so I guess the Zoo of Death is the sub level five or whatever. And it was just kind of I. The the pit of despair is just just the the words alone, the title alone is so much more poetic than Zoo of Death.
00:26:29
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wait So thank you for changing that, William Goldman. You did this better this time. However, later in the book when Fezzik and Inigo are running through the Zoo of Death, that was actually really kind of cool. and I really liked that. I really liked that scene. Anyways, back to we just found out in the movie that Buttercup is going to marry the prince.
00:26:50
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she is looking all depressed and she is being presented to her public now and she's looking all sad sack, even though she's supposed to be the most beautiful woman in the world so in the book. A commoner just like you. Right, yeah.
00:27:05
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In the book, she's presented to her people now, and she smiles and walks among them. And she's like, she wants to go walk down there with them. She wants to go walk with them. She wants them to have the opportunity to see her in all of her beauty. And it's an experience for them. She is gifting the experience of seeing her to the people, which again, Buttercup in the book ain't that bright.
00:27:35
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If I'm a starving, what are they, what are they called? Florians. If I'm a starving Florian, I don't care how beautiful you are. I want food. Like, yeah, just saying. So yeah, she's just out there happy to, you know, be beautiful.
Buttercup's Kidnapping
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And at least she gets to live in the palace, but she does get to ride her horse. And this is in the movie and the book. She gets to ride her horse once a day. She takes a lot of.
00:28:04
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joy and being alone that alone time she has going out for a ride. So she does that. And along come three humble circus performers. Well, isn't her horse's name horse? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, wow, that's so creative. Good job. Real bright, that one. I'm telling you. Anyway, so she's out riding horse on horse.
00:28:30
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And she runs across three humble circus performers who turn out to surprise, surprise, be bad guys. Surprise, surprise. And um so she is kidnapped by these three guys. It is Fezik and Nigo and Vizzini. Vizzini's a Sicilian hunchback in the book. Fezik is a giant, from a Turkish giant.
00:28:55
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And Inigo is a fencing Spaniard, but he's not just any fencing Spaniard. He is a wizard, which is higher than a master. And sometimes there are no wizards in the world, but once in a great while, there will be one, maybe two at the same time.
Iconic Boat Scene
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It's almost unheard of.
00:29:15
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it's It's just, I will say, okay, so I have a friend who is a fencer, actually, for the Society of Creative Anachronism, Anachronists, I don't know, the SCA. They dress up and they sword fight. Well, they do a lot of stuff, but he sword fights. And he, they him and his little, like,
00:29:37
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chapter that he's a part of. They watch this movie a lot. A lot of other fencers do. They think this is an excellent movie. The names that they bring up in the sword fights and stuff are actual like master, fencing masters. It's it's really, really cool. Anyways, he was telling me that like So I'm sitting here, like I've watched it with him a couple of times in my life and I'm like, you know, he always talks about the sword fighting part, but one time he was like, actually, everybody's favorite part is when Andre the Giant is rhyming on the boat.
Perfect Casting for the Film
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And I was like, my two. So even though- Anybody want a peanut?
00:30:17
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It is probably one of my all time favorite sections of the movie is just them on the boat as they're sailing away with Buttercup, and and Vincini's like, no more rhyming, I mean it. And then Andre the Giant says, anybody want a peanut? And he just, and then Vincini, ah like,
00:30:40
Speaker
So I want to talk about the casting in this movie, in this moment, because the casting is top notch, but specifically these three are so perfectly cast to me. Wallace Shawn as Vincini, Wallace Shawn, who is the Grand Negus in Star Trek Deep Space Nine, just in case anybody wondered. um And Andre the Giant, who rose to fame with wrestling, but also showed up in a lot of, like,
00:31:08
Speaker
one-off like would cameo on different sitcoms throughout the 80s and Mandy Patinkin who if y'all don't know he does have social media accounts with him and his wife and they are the most wholesome couple in the world and sometimes their son shows up and he has dogs and he goes road tripping and it is like I cry all the time because he's just like the most wholesome man in the world, the whole most wholesome couple, like relationship goals. It's just beautiful. But the three of them, the chemistry there is just...
Cliffs of Insanity Sequence
00:31:48
Speaker
i like They are so well matched in in that casting and they're the white the way the script is written, they play off each other so well that, you know, obviously it's hard for me to picture anybody else as these characters while I'm reading the book.
00:32:08
Speaker
but there were definitely some moments with Wesley or with Buttercup or with Prince Humperdink where the the character didn't match in the book, the you know the movie character quite the way I expected them to. But these three, Inigo and Fezzik and Vincini, are so well cast. They fit so well with the character in the book. It was just perfect. It was just perfect.
00:32:36
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Definitely. Those part all those parts are like my humor exactly. it does Have me cackling even and all their parts in the book are like exact. Yeah.
00:32:54
Speaker
Yeah. In the book. it is It is all your favorite lines from them yeah over this next scene are straight out of the book. They're the like kidnapping and then chasing from the sword fight to the fight with Fezzik to the the battle of wits. Like it is all word for word in the book and it is Like I read through that so fast because I was just excited and like this and you know because this is everybody's favorite parts, you know And it was it was really really awesome The clips of insanity it's basically the exact same scene in the book You know, they climb up the they get to the clips and well first we have to do the shrieking eels The shrieking eels are not in the book. They are sharks.
00:33:45
Speaker
Which I'm glad that got changed because the shrieking eels are one of my all time favorite things in the world. I do, I'm going to bring up the World Kitchen adaptation that was done in 2020 during the, when everybody was shut down because of coronavirus at the time and everybody was, you know, kind of like locked up and quarantining.
00:34:06
Speaker
in place and a whole bunch of movie stars. I'm not even going to list them because there's so many. Recorded different bits while they were at home, different sections while they were at home, but the section with the shrieking heels, somebody had hooked up a ah a garbage bag to a stick in a pool. It was just dragging it through the pool and up. I mean, legit, I can't watch that scene in the actual movie without thinking of the trash bag in the swimming pool. that That was brilliant special effects. if you were it was accurate It was pretty If you're locked in the house and i mean you only have so much to work with, like that was that was brilliant. The entire project was giving like, you were assigned this project at school. Yeah. And they put it all together for this YouTube video. That's what it literally looked like. And it originally it all together yep and originally it was released in little sections, but you can go on YouTube and we will link it in the show notes.
00:35:07
Speaker
and see the whole thing all
Swordfight Training and Execution
00:35:09
Speaker
at once if you want to. It's about an hour long and it's really enjoyable if you haven't seen it yet. It's worth a watch. It's literally hilarious. So they get through their shrieking eels. They're climbing up the cliffs of insanity and this is all straight from the book and the movie are exactly the same through this. They climb up the rope to the top of the cliffs. the man in black is still climbing behind them. Vincini says, cut the rope. They cut the rope. The man in black is clinging to the side of the cliff and working his way up and yet he climbs. And Vincini says, inconceivable for like the 19th time. And then he goes. I wanna say like some background of the, whenever I read that As You Wish, the memoir by Carrie,
00:35:53
Speaker
They were talking about filming that whole section of The Cliffs of Insanity, right? Right. And they were talking about how Andre the Giant, he couldn't have anybody like on his back or attached to him because he had really bad back issues, neck issues, things like that. And they were talking about the guy who plays Wallace Shawn being scared of heights. Wallace Shawn being so scared of heights that they were just getting inches off the ground because they were on bicycle seats like attached to Andre the Giant and they were on bicycle seats around him and they were just getting inches off the ground and he was already about to pass out. And Andre the Giant was petting his head being like, it's okay, you're fine. I know. Because he was such a sweet soul. He was like a sweet guy. He he is a huge man.
00:36:43
Speaker
he he was i Y'all, I warned you, I'm gonna cry through this whole episode. Don't cry. I'm good, I'm good. um Wallace Sean was so terrified. ah A, he found out that he was not the first choice for the role, and so he was constantly terrified that they were going to let him go or that he wasn't gonna be good enough or he wasn't gonna be quite what Rob Reiner had in mind.
00:37:08
Speaker
and then He found out that they were going to like, no, they're not actually going to have to climb. And he was like, okay, so I took the role. But he was like, if I had known what they were going to do, I would not have taken the role because like they were going to have them on a forklift and lift them up a little bit for like camera angles and stuff. And he was panicking and there was Andre the giant. Like I got you, dude. It's okay. And his cognac that he had. And his cognac.
00:37:34
Speaker
andrewre the was Okay, so Andre the Giant, I remember from when he was a wrestler. so like i I remember seeing him do cameos and shows and stuff and him being instantly recognizable and he was in the news now and then and I remember when he died, it was just really sad because he was this gentle giant. every but He was just one of the nicest guys and So yeah, that's sad. Yeah. So they climb the clips of insanity, they get to the top, they're going to have the sword fight. And the sword fight between Mandy Patinkin and Carrie Elwes, they trained for months, eight and 10 hours a day, every single day for months to learn how to fence left-handed and right-handed.
00:38:27
Speaker
to learn the choreographed moves of the fighting and to learn it so well. that they were the ones fencing in every single scene. There was not a stunt double. There was not you know a stand-in. It was them through every single clip, every single time.
Wesley's Clever Escape
00:38:48
Speaker
The only time they used a stunt double was for when he flips over the swoopy-woop bar to do the double flip and land. That was the only one, but any of the actual sword fighting was all them.
00:38:59
Speaker
That was such a fun thing to discover. Like after watching the movie, I listened to like the memoir and stuff and I was like, oh my gosh, that's crazy because I was actually wondering if it was like some type of like stunt double thing or something. And I was like, oh my gosh, that's so cool. I was shocked to find out. I thought that Mandy Patinkin had known fencing before that. Like, I don't know why I thought that, but somewhere in my head, I must have heard that and thought that.
00:39:29
Speaker
And to find out that neither one of them, that like Carrie Elwes had taken some like stage fencing courses, but that was, that was it. And same with Mandy Patinkin, but none of them, neither of them had actually studied yeah fencing. But even Christopher Guest, who's Count Rugin and has a sword fight at the end, he also had not fenced before and had to learn fencing, but of course he didn't have the big giant huge fight at the top of the Cliffs of Insanity. yeah so And that that sword fight to me, like I've seen Zorro, I've seen the old Zorro movies, I've seen a lot of old like fencing movies and stuff, but like even the newer Zorro movies with Antonio Banderas, like nothing holds up to the Cliffs of Insanity.
00:40:20
Speaker
I'm just imagining like this anticipation after all this training and all this stuff, this anticipation to this moment where everyone's watching you to this scene that you rehearsed and worked on for so
Humperdinck's Discovery and Reaction
00:40:33
Speaker
long. And they did it, they did it once and they did it like a million times after that. Yep, over and over and over and over again from different camera angles and yeah.
00:40:42
Speaker
I just think that's so cool. like now I could see it like that different clips and angles that they did yeah and like people watching them do it. There are absolute tons of outtakes and bloopers on YouTube. It's yeah it's worth looking them up. They're hilarious. But what what we what Carrie and I keep referencing is the, as you wish, the inconceivable tales from the making of The Princess Bride by Carrie Elwes.
00:41:08
Speaker
um It was really good. I think all three of us listened to the audio book, right? I have the physical copy and I had been kind of thumbing through it. It felt a little dry. Carrie was like, the audio is amazing. You should listen. So I did. And the audio is amazing. It's got lots of cameos in there. It's got tons of cameos in there. it is It's well done. It's about seven hours.
00:41:34
Speaker
If you are a huge fan of The Princess Bride, I highly recommend like it's really, really freaking good. And it was available on the Libby app from my library, so I didn't have to like pay anything for it. Use your libraries, folks. So they saved the fencing scene for shooting to the very end so they could get that much more training in. So they shot that scene almost the very last scene of shooting. And I found that really interesting, too, because like at that point in the in the movie, this is the first time, and even in the book, this is the first time that Inigo and the Man in Black, who we find out is Wesley, meet, right? But in reality, they had been shooting. They had already built a rapport. They were you know had been in a ton of scenes together, and this was one of the last ones.
Escape into the Fire Swamp
00:42:26
Speaker
So I thought that was kind of funny too. that like there
00:42:28
Speaker
pretending to meet for the first time, but they already have that screen chemistry because they've been working on it for so long. It was just such a good scene. It also gave Kerry Elway's time to break his toe. Yes, he was goofing around with Andre the Giant and Andre the Giant had an ATV because it was one of the only vehicles that could support him in his size and weight and he had convinced Carrie to try out the ATV and he ended up breaking his toe. So there are a lot of scenes that you will see
00:42:59
Speaker
um like the scene where he gets Buttercup just before the, um but he's already got reunited kind of with Buttercup, but she doesn't know it's him yet. And he like sits down, he kicks his leg out. In reality, he was doing that to, you know, relieve the pressure on his foot. Yeah, couldn't put any weight on it. Yeah. So ah he wins the sword fight. The Man in Black wins the sword fight.
00:43:24
Speaker
But he doesn't kill an ego because he's like he recognized like game recognizes game, right? Like you're a master. I'm not going to just kill you. And so he knocks him out and he runs off. And of course, at this point, Vincini is like, hey, Fezzik, like.
00:43:41
Speaker
finish him and he's like, how how do I finish him, boss? And he's like, hit him in the head with the rock. And he's like, that's not very sportsman-like. And so, Vincini runs off, and Fessit gets it in his head that like, no, I'm not, I'm not a jerk.
Fire Swamp Challenges
00:43:56
Speaker
I'm like, we're gonna fight. I'm gonna win. But he's gonna have a shot. And of course, they fight. And he loses, in large part because, and it's explained in the movie and in the book,
00:44:10
Speaker
that Fezzik has gotten used to fighting like groups of men because one man was too easy and so in order to make his way through the fighting circuit, he had been fighting groups of people and he just kind of forgot how to fight one dude. It's different types of moves when you're fighting a group.
00:44:31
Speaker
And the Man in Black took advantage of that and strangles him, knocks him out, but releases him just in time to make sure he doesn't fully die, right? And then he says, like, I envy you, the headache you're going to have in the morning, the dream of large women. And then he runs off. Yeah. And so he he runs off after Visini and he catches up with Visini and the Sicilian, this hunchback Sicilian who Wallace Shawn plays so stinking perfectly.
00:45:01
Speaker
And like, Vancini is like, come any closer, I'm gonna stab her in the neck. He's got his little, it's not really a sword, it's a like a dagger. Like a dagger, yeah. And he's like, got it up against her neck. He's like, come any closer, I'll get her. And the man in black is like, whoa, buddy, I think we can figure something out here. And Vancini's like, you bested my Spaniard and my giant.
00:45:25
Speaker
Like, I don't know. Like, you're obviously strong. You're obviously smart, but are you as smart as me? And then the battle of wits starts and he's like, and the man in black is like, I got this iocane powder. I'm gonna poison one of these drinks. And so he goes to poison the drinks like behind his back, like sneaky, sneak.
Capture and Betrayal Realization
00:45:43
Speaker
And then Vancini goes through this, this dizzying intellect. Like, you know, you, you've studied, so you're, you know, fencing. So you're very smart.
00:45:52
Speaker
and yeah in studying you would have learned that man is is delicate or whatever he says like you so i clearly cannot choose the glass in front of me and like he goes through the whole like which one is he gonna pick which one is he gonna pick and i cracked up again because this is in the book when he was like what in the world is that over there
00:46:15
Speaker
That part cracks me up. ah because like i i don't Again, it's one of those, that like I feel like this is such an ad, in real life, that would have been an ad-libbed moment. so It yeah probably isn't in the book. No, it was in the book.
00:46:29
Speaker
yeah so he he just He switches the glasses while the Man in Black's head is turned the other way. And then they drink and the man in black is like, you lose. And Vincent is like, you only think that you've won. And he laughs and then he dies. And oh well, the way this is my humor right here. He's like literally cracking up laughing and he's like, and then passed out dies. Yep. And it's freaking hilarious. And then Buttercup is like,
00:47:05
Speaker
You really put the poison in your own class? And he was like, they were both poisoned. I've been spending the last three years building an immunity to iocane powder. Of course. And she's like, yes. And again, in the book, dumb Buttercup is like, gasp. But in the movie, Buttercup is like, oh, well, that was smart. And they move on. But he's dragging her. In the book, he drags her forever.
00:47:35
Speaker
I don't know, it is, this is the part in the book where I was like, oh wait, this this part's boring. It's just like, yeah they run until and then he lets her catch her breath and then they run and then he lets her catch the breath and then they run and they and they do that for like 37 times. Yeah. I think at this point in the book is when it started to go a little downhill for me.
00:47:57
Speaker
Like I was really starting to be like losing my attention drastically. Almost like the man in black went down the hill. Literally. The man in black is going down the hill and that's where my mind is going because it's almost like I felt like there were more like um notes from this the fake narration the yeah narration notes there were even more and then it's like and then they turn into like four and five pages of his yes like break-in thoughts and notes rather than just like a couple of paragraphs yeah so it felt like it was just getting worse and worse and i was just like okay but yeah i just want to read the main the main plot here exactly
00:48:40
Speaker
So then, like basically, that we find out, cutscene to the prince, he's trying to like track her down, and we find out that like he's probably the one that hired the the murderers to kill her, but now that it's obviously not working, because he did not consider this man-in-black person, like he's an unknown variable, so now he's just tracking her down, and he thinks that he's gonna, like this is kind of a fun game, I'll track her down, whatever.
00:49:08
Speaker
And so he's tracking her down and he realizes that, you know, there was a sword fight. He realizes that someone's bested a giant. He finds Vincini's dead body and yet he like in the distance Wesley or the man in black can kind of see what's going on But buttercup still doesn't realize that this is Wesley and she is like, where are you taking me? What are you doing? My fiance is gonna find me. He will find you he'll kill you like I can promise you'll be treated fairly if you just give me back like whatever and the man in black is like
00:49:43
Speaker
So you love him, huh? And she's like, I never said I love him. And again, in the movie, this is really dramatic, and I got it. I was like, Buttercup's my girl. Like, she's just doing what she has to do. I don't love him, but he's the prince. I don't have a choice, right?
00:50:02
Speaker
but in the in in so like I got that in the book she's just like uh no I don't love him but like at least I get a nice dress and a nice house and like you know so like it was very again she's just kind of dumb or whatever but in the movie she is very like You know, I, you know, I've, I've loved once and it was a poor farm boy and the Dread Pirate Roberts killed him. And, you know, when he was like, well, I kill lots of people, you know, whatever. And she was like, you know, whatever. He was like, you don't, you've never loved, you don't know what love is. Don't lie to me. And she was like, you know.
00:50:43
Speaker
What were the words, the exact words? I love them. like I have loved more deeply than a man like you could ever know. And he slaps her, goes to slap her or whatever. And then she and like he turns his back because he sees the prince coming. And she shoves him and says, you can die too, for all I care. And like this is when he, the even more like famous moment, he's like, as you wish." as He's like, downhill. Whenever they were doing going back to the YouTube video where they're doing like this reenactment and all this stuff, whenever that scene, when they were trying to reenact this scene, they were throwing clothes down the stairs, clothes with a wig glued to it down the steps.
00:51:37
Speaker
Yup. Rolling down the steps to show like to indicate somebody rolling down on the hill. Yup. I grew up someplace where we had like big sand dunes and like We used to like run down them or shove each other down them when I was a kid. And I remember very specific specifically telling my cousin, you can die too for all I care or just shove it like, so, you know, cause we can.
Wesley's Torture and Stakes Revealed
00:52:06
Speaker
Um, but then like buttercup, like, Oh my sweet Leslie, what have I done? And she tumbles down the hill too. She just like flings herself down the hill. I feel like you could have walked.
00:52:23
Speaker
It was a little dramatic. like You could have scooted on your butt now. Scooted. I mean, anything. She's like, head first, dove. Damn, girl. Slow down. um So they have their like romantic like moment where she recognizes him. And he you know she's like, I thought you were dead. And he was like, you know death cannot stop the love of ours. And it's romantic or sweet or whatever. In the book, this is when the narrator cuts in to give his notes for 36 years. And I don't remember any of them because honestly, they weren't important. Oh wait, no, I remember them. Okay. All right, Kerry, go for it. Your turn. He was saying that he was like, my wife was upset with me because I didn't write in a reunion scene between Wesley and Buttercup at this moment because it immediately skipped to them walking walking away to the- Fire swamp. The fire swamp.
00:53:25
Speaker
and he's like, I didn't write in a reunion scene because the original author, the original fake author, didn't have a reunion scene. S. Morgenstern. Yeah, S. Morgenstern, the fake author. He's like, so send in an email or a letter at this publishing company uh linked here and there's literally a link in the Kindle for some reason in the Kindle book send it to this publishing company at this link here if you want the reunion scene and we'll like email it or mail it out or something like that and it was like but it's fake it's not real it's not real it's not like i don't understand somebody help me someone sedate me i can't take it
00:54:06
Speaker
And it was, it it was like an an actual address to an actual place as the full street address, the city, state, zip code, the whole shebang. If you want the reunion bonus. And they were like, send in a self-addressed stamped envelope. And yeah, so it was. And he keeps bringing it up later. He's like at the very end, he's like, I still haven't written the reunion scene. And I was like, you're not real. Shut up. You're not real.
00:54:35
Speaker
Are you okay, Gary? No! I was so upsetting me! Oh, lord. So, uh, they run to the fire swamp, and Prince operating is all like, oh, look, they're running into the fire swamp. They'll never make it. We'll just catch them on the other side. They'll either die in the fire swamp or we'll catch them when and they come out. And so we don't really hear from him for a hot minute.
00:54:56
Speaker
But we go through the fire swamp. And of course, there's the lightning quicksand. There's the ROUS, Rodents of Unusual Size. And we see, it's the same. The book and the movie is the same.
Inigo and Fezzik's Rescue Plan
00:55:15
Speaker
It's, you know, they they the fire, it's a fire swamp. So there's the fire spurts, her dress catches at one point, he puts it out.
00:55:26
Speaker
She falls into the the lightning quicksand. He dives in after her and saves her. And R.O.U.S., he's all like, ah, they don't exist. And then, of course, like two minutes later, he gets attacked. I remember this is one of the only scenes that I remember from the movie, from watching it when I was younger. And I remember the scaring me, like giving me nightmares when I was younger, like the rats and stuff. The rats are scary. Yeah.
00:55:51
Speaker
and Honestly, Buttercup was pissing me off in the movie during the rush. I'm like, can you help your man? like You're upsetting me. it was She was just standing there. She was just like standing there looking at him, getting his shoulder bit into. like you Can you do something, lady? No. No. Now that you know Buttercup from the book, are you shocked? No. See? um so you know They have their they're face their trials and tribulations. like you would expect in the fire swamp. But then they do come out the other side. And while he, Wesley explains how the Dread Pirate Roberts works while they're walking through the fire swamp. He's basically like, obviously, I'm not the Dread Pirate Roberts, but I am. Because the name is what matters. And every time the Dread Pirate Roberts decides he has made enough money and he wants to retire, he kicks off his crew, takes on a whole new crew and his like,
00:56:46
Speaker
Apprentice or whatever and they he calls the apprentice The Dread Pirate Roberts and pretends to be the first mate until the crew starts to buy it and then he retires and It's been going through that a few times at this point. The real Dread Pirate Roberts has been retired for 15 years and living like a king of Patagonia So now he is the Dread Pirate Roberts because nobody would respect the Dread Pirate Wesley um so Buttercup seems to understand that he's like, now that I found you, I will train the next one and and then you and I can retire to wherever you want. And she's like, okay, whatevs. And they come out of the fire swamp and the prince and the counter there with their jerks. And they're all like, okay, we're gonna kill you now. And she's like, well, you promised not to hurt him. And they're all like, what? And she's like, well, you promised not to hurt him. He's a sailor on the pirate ship revenge.
00:57:42
Speaker
like, so she basically convinces the prince to like, I'll come with you, but you have to let him live. And Wesley's like, are you like what? And so I think everyone can agree that that was dumb. And this is this is the one moment in the movie where every like buttercup is dumb. we We all knew that that's not gonna happen. That's not like everybody knows that's not gonna work.
00:58:09
Speaker
So and Prince Humper Dick is like, yeah, ah sure. or and Yeah. He's like, sure. but Whatever. Whatever. that What if it makes you happy? Sure. And so he sends like he he puts her up on the horse with him and they're going to ride off and he turns to the count and he's like, send him to the pit. And it's same in the book, basically like take him to the zoo of death.
00:58:37
Speaker
And then we move on. Where are we now? yeah we He finds out that he sees the count. The count has six fingers on his right hand. yeah And then there's a weird like guitar riff. And then he knocks him out. um In real life. We find out that that scene in Carriella's book, he says that he they were having a hard time making it look really real. So he told Christopher Gasly, go ahead and hit me with the sword. like Just tap me a little bit so that I can react more appropriately.
Miracle Max's Revival Scene
00:59:13
Speaker
And Christopher Gasly knocks his ass out.
00:59:15
Speaker
funk out of the actually And that is the clip that they use. That is the take that they use in the movie. So he, what you see him passing out, he for real was passed out. He woke up in the hospital getting stitches with his costume still on with the same doctor that fixed his toe.
00:59:36
Speaker
and So now, mind you, they did film all in England and like in smaller areas in England. So like running into the same doctor at the local hospital is not that uncommon, I wouldn't think. But that's still freaking funny because the doctor was like, OK, Zorro, what's going on? but Yeah.
00:59:56
Speaker
So then we like we move forward. Buttercup is like has agreed to marry Prince Humperdinck again because she's like, at this point, I just want to make sure that Wesley lives. you know And she truly genuinely believes that the prince has allowed Prince Humperdinck who he believes is just a sailor but as we know is Wesley to go back to his ship which we know is not true and so she's feeling all this like regret for having like told him to go and she's decided that like I'm not gonna be able to make it so she's having these nightmares right and
01:00:43
Speaker
We cut to like she's in a, she's in a nightmare, but we don't really know it yet. And then we cut to in the book and in the movie, the the grandfather pops out and he's like, or the Fred Savage wakes up. He's like, no, that's not how that happened. She doesn't marry Prince Humperdink.
01:01:02
Speaker
And the grandfather is like, do you actually want me to read this or do you want me to stop? In the book, what happens is he says the kid who the narrator is recounting his youth. And he is saying that when my dad read this to me, I stopped him and told him that's not right.
01:01:22
Speaker
There's no way she marries Prince Humperdink. Who kills Humperdink? There's no way he wins. And his dad's like, I'm going to stop. You're obviously upset. And he does stop and leaves him to stew on this all night long. And this kid is going through this, like, why would she do that? Why would she, you know, how does the, how does he live? How is there, there's no way that that's, that's fair. That's not right. And like.
01:01:51
Speaker
has a really hard time all night long and has like existential crisis about... It's actually, I will say that that's kind of a part in the book that I did enjoy of the narrator's cutting in because he brings up, I haven't marked but I have like 19,000 tabs and I'm not gonna try to find which one it is. But he talks about how the lesson that he learned from this is that life isn't fair.
01:02:20
Speaker
yeah And sometimes the good people die. Sometimes the bad guys win. Yeah. and
Plan to Storm the Castle
01:02:30
Speaker
And he kind of goes into depth about how like it sucks, but that's just how life is sometimes. And in the movie, Fred Savage says, you know, who kills Humperdink?
01:02:45
Speaker
And the grandfather says, nobody, he lives. And he yells, that's not fair. Fred Savage yells, that's not fair. And the grandfather says, who said life was fair? And so i I like, it was different in the movie in the book, but I love that they brought that in. Because honestly, like we all kind of know that this movie does end as a happily ever after.
01:03:09
Speaker
But the fact that they have some of these, like we they had to go through some shit to get there because life isn't fair. I kind of i kind of like that part. Yeah. So we flash into Wesley's in the pit.
01:03:28
Speaker
and we're in the fifth level of the Zoo of Death, whichever, and they're healing him up. The albino is trying to heal him up, heal his wounds, get him in good condition, make sure he's fed, make sure he's, you know, his shoulder is fixed up from the ROUS and all that jazz. And Wesley's trying to determine, like, where am I? Obviously, this is not good right now. Like,
01:03:53
Speaker
but I am being cared for so there must be something really bad coming. And in the book, we kind of get in the mind of Wesley and he's decided he's going to like like meditate into himself in order to get through whatever torture they might have. And sure enough, the prince comes down and in the book, the prince tortures him a few times. Just regular torture, like setting his hands on fire and just typical what you would consider torturous type situations, lots of pain. And Wesley pretends to be in pain, but in reality he has
01:04:31
Speaker
like meditated and centered himself so fully that he's not feeling it. And Count Rugen kind of sees that. He's kind of caught on to this. So Count Rugen has devised this machine, this torture machine to suck life away from you. And the prince is like, yeah, go ahead, do it, whatever, I don't care. I'm busy trying to convince everyone that I love my wife So that when she's kidnapped on our wedding or killed on our wedding night, everybody will have a ton of sympathy for me and we can go to the war with, with Gilder and Florin and Gilder, by the way, not real countries. Again, this story is fake.
01:05:18
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But he tries to talk in the book, he talks about like the history of the countries and the the rich heritage and all this jazz. So it like builds it up like it could be. No, they are not. Yeah. Forms of currency. They're not real. They're not countries. So in the book, Count Rugen is torturing Wesley, Buttercup and the Prince are going through like a bajillion and a half wedding prep things for like 30 days of parties, basically, like having dignitaries come from around and having hosting dinners and banquets and all this jazz. And so he keeps playing doting fiance. She has told him, I don't wanna marry you, I want Wesley back. yeah And he was like, okay, I'll tell you what, we don't even know if he still loves you because you were kind of cold about leaving him in the fire swamp.
01:06:14
Speaker
So why don't you write a letter and we'll send it out my four fashion fastest ships. And, and if he wants to come back, he can't. And she was all like, okay, but you're going to have to help me write the letter.
01:06:31
Speaker
So he helps her write the letter. Oh, gosh. And he says, now in the movie, he's just like, write a letter. I'll send it out if he comes back. But please consider me an alternative to death. Because she's like, I will kill myself if I can't hear him. And he was like, hold up. Honestly, she's threatening to kill herself like left and right. She really is. She really is. There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world.
01:07:02
Speaker
like Honestly, I love that part. It's a really good line. But she is, she's constantly threatening to kill herself and he's like, please consider me an alternative to death, which I think is... hilarious. So in the book, though, he's all like, I'll help you write the letter, but I don't know, you were kind of a bitch. You were kind of a bitch. He's, he's like really kind of like, neat, manipulating her into thinking that like, you're the problem here. you know Um,
01:07:34
Speaker
So anyways he tells her he's gonna do that we all know the truth but she's dumb buttercup and so they keep doing their banquets and in the meantime Humberdink has told his head of security dude that like Hey, I've heard a rumor that Gilder's going to try and kidnap my wife on our wedding night. He's creating gossip. He is. And the head of security is like, I haven't heard that. None of my spies have heard any of that. And the prince is like- Oh, my God, should I quit? I haven't heard that yet. Yeah. He's starting to doubt himself. So now he's like, maybe I'm not as good at my job as I thought I was. And the prince is like, yeah, maybe you're not.
01:08:16
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and so like my you you think you're the best like my spies are better than your spies kind of crap it's hilarious and then at one point in the book he's like okay i've got everything secure but i'm going to turn in my resignation and the prince is like crap i can't have this guy quit i actually need him yeah so he like confesses his plan very quickly very rushed he's like there are no spies there are no kidnappers i'm gonna kill her i need you to help me settle in gilder when we win the war and the head of security is like oh Well, all right. but yeah Oh, that was the whole plan. God, I gotta go. Yeah. Like, Oh, okay. Okay, cool. So in the meantime, he's like, before he, he spills the beans, he's telling that the chief of security, like, I want you to form a brute squad. I want you to empty the thieves for us. There can't be nobody out there. We like, we're going to arrest everybody. They're going to have to be under lock and key and, and, you know, until I know my, my bride is secure, right?
01:09:11
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And the chief of security is all like, uh, that's going to be hard to do. And he's like, figure it out. So he does, he forms a brute squad, right? And he hires all these people to whatever. And this is when we find an ego is in the thieves forest drunk as a skunk. And they're trying to send like the brute squad to go get him, but like,
01:09:38
Speaker
even drunk, he's better swordsman than any of the brute squad. And so they like get the biggest brute to go get him. And the biggest brute turns out to be Fezzik. So Fezzik reunited and it feels so good. And let me tell you in the ok in the book, it's cute. In the movie, when he like pulls out Fezzik's giant hand and puts his hand in it and is like looking like little hand big hand and then looks up at Andre the Giant and his face just lights up and he says, it's you. And as it goes, true. I was like, oh.
01:10:20
Speaker
Like, girl, don't cry. Don't cry. The whole part of Fezzik trying to get him sober was hilarious. He's like dunking his head in the water. And in the again, this is in the book. He puts him in the bathtub of hot water until he starts to sweat out the brandy or whatever he was drinking. And then he's like, and then he fills it with ice water and he dunks it with the ice. So he does that in the book, not the head, so much as just his whole body. But yeah it's still there.
01:10:50
Speaker
And he, they, he kind of like catches up, fed an ego on what's going on. Like the Count Rugen is the six-figure in man. The Prince is marrying Buttercup tonight. And. Vinceni is dead. Vinceni is dead. And then he goes like, wait, the six-finger man. Like, like everything else, laser focus. And.
01:11:14
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and He's like, okay, so we're gonna have to do something. I got a plan. We're gonna find the man in black, because if he could best Vinceni, then he can help us make a plan. And we have to find the man in black, because he's obviously really frickin smart. And neither of us are smart enough to go up with a plan. So I do love in the book, we kind of hear that like we get the whole thought process as to how they realize they're not smart enough to make a plan.
01:11:41
Speaker
But they're making an excellent plan to find a guy to make a plan. like And it's it's it's beautiful. It's not as well played out in the movie, but it's still pretty cool that he's like, we're going to find the man in black. And then, of course, this is when Buttercup figures out that like he never sent the letter.
01:12:03
Speaker
And so she's like, she ah confronts him and she's like, you never sent the letter. You know, like, I'm not going to marry you. I'll be dead by morning. And like he, you know, Prince Humperdinck is finally like, you know what, you're just a bitch and like shots and then runs down to the Prince and or runs down to Wesleyan is like, you know, she truly loves you. And in another world, you might've had a chance, but this is my world. So die now. And yeah, things you're done.
01:12:29
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and And Count Rugen yells, not 20! And the and and like the prince is like, yeah. And Wesley's like body off of the machine is screaming this sound like nobody's ever heard before. it's this three He's got suction cups like on his head and on his nipples. And in the book, he has suction cups everywhere on his eyelids, in his nose, on his tongue, in his armpits. like Very descriptive. In the movie, it's just ears and nipples. Yeah. and Chin. I think he had one on his chin. I don't know. like and But anyways, he's screaming. And the sound is going it's like this weird death scream, right? And it's going through everywhere. And everyone like outside the castle, in the grounds, out in the forest, hears this scream. And they all kind of stop and look around like,
01:13:23
Speaker
That's fucked. What is that? like And an ego right away is like, that is the sound of ultimate suffering. And he knows that that's the man in black because the man in black is the only person who would have any reason to be feeling ultimate suffering because he knows that Buttercup is his one true love and he's marrying Humberding. So he's like, follow that sound. So he gets Fezzig to part the crowd and they run towards the castle to try and find him and they find they try to find the pit of despair in the book this is when we end up going through the death suit uh murder zoo uh whatever even worse i mean that's what it is yeah so anyways and they go in
01:14:15
Speaker
They find the albino looking for a wheelbarrow because he's all like, I'm going to carry out this dead guy with a wheel the wheelbarrow. And they accidentally knock out the albino instead. And in the book, the entrance is obvious. There's a door.
01:14:29
Speaker
In the movie, there's like a secret knot in a tree and he has to find it and he prays to his father over the sword. This part's hilarious to me. And he's just like waving back and forth with a sword. And then he slams into a tree and nothing happens and he just like fuck and he like leans onto the tree and he leans his head right onto the spot and the door opens.
01:14:48
Speaker
In the book, there's there's a door, an obvious door, and it's unlocked and he's like, let's go in here. And that was a mistake because they're now in level one of Zoo of Death. And I don't remember which things came first, but there were snakes and there were bats. And what was the the third thing? And then there was the spider. Yeah, I think I remember. Yeah, that was it, I think.
01:15:17
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It wasn't really excellent, um, scene in the book. It's worth reading if you want to go look up that scene. It's really, I really enjoyed it. That was a good one. But they go through the different levels of the, the death, death, the zoo, zoo, zoo of death. the harder zo fire Pretty much.
01:15:38
Speaker
And so they, they like. they They take advantage of each other's friendship to get through this. This is really what what gets them through it. Not even so much their strengths as their friendship. And they get through it and they find Wesley and he's dead and Inigo right away is like, I'm not giving up. Let's go see Miracle Max. And this is where I like a schoolgirl's wheel every time because this is my favorite part. Miracle Max is great. So they show up at the door.
01:16:11
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They're like, you know, we need a miracle. And he was like, come back later. The king's stinking son fired me like, you know, then it's Billy Crystal, who is like, again, perfectly cast. And there are again, a crap ton of bloopers. He was told to basically you can ad lib do whatever you got to do. And there's so many bloopers on YouTube.
01:16:32
Speaker
of things that could not go in the movie because they were not necessarily PG. um They're freaking hilarious. And I've heard many, many not not just in the as you wish memoir, but the lots of other interviews and stuff where everybody talks about how like they had to they They were cracking up so much with Billy Crystal that there were a few times that people had to leave the set, leave the scene, like because it was they they couldn't control their laughter and they were ruining take after take that way. So they get to Miracle Max. mayor you know We need a miracle. He's like, I don't i don't do that anymore. like I might kill the guy you're trying to save. And they were like, he's already dead. And he was like, well, I'll check him out. So they bring him in. And it turns out he's only mostly dead.
01:17:24
Speaker
and they use the the bellows to try to figure out like what's going on in there. And they pumped some air into his lungs. And what have you, you know, Miracle Max says, what have you got worth living for? And he says, true love. And everybody's like, true love, true love. And Max is like, yeah, what he said was to believe. And this is Carol Kane when she comes running around the corner. And she goes, liar, liar.
01:17:55
Speaker
And Miracle Max yells, get back, witch. She goes, I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch from your wife. It's my favorite lie of any movie probably ever. I have said that so many times to so many people that I'm not even married to, but I think it's funny. So it's my favorite. But Miracle Max makes a pill and they coat it in chocolate. In the book, it's supposed to bring him back to life, but not forever.
01:18:25
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in at least that's kind of how I read it. it was I had to go back and kind of reread that section a couple of times like, wait, because I don't think that he was supposed to live forever. I think he was supposed that was supposed to bring him back to life for a certain amount of time, 40 minutes to an hour. and It was an hour and they messed up the recipe, so it ended up being in like 45 minutes instead. Right. In the movie, we just know he's going to come back to life. there's no There doesn't seem to be any time limit on it. so
01:18:55
Speaker
But they they give him the pill when they're on like back at the castle wall. And I knew this was gonna be the longest episode ever. Sorry, guys. ah
01:19:05
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But they're back at the castle wall. ah Wesley starts to wake up. I'm storming the castle. I love that part. That is such a good one. There's so many good lines, and i I know that we could get stuck in the lines, if that's all we talked about. Because we could make an episode of just the the great lines from this movie. Yeah, really. So they go to storm the castle. They get to the castle wall. ah Wesley's waking up, but he can't stand
Fezzik's Fiery Distraction
01:19:31
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up or anything. He can just move his head, and he's like,
01:19:34
Speaker
what what the hell's going on so they kind of recap him and he was like you've been you want me to do it all day but and and seriously what do you want me to do like what are our assets and he was like his strength might steal your brains and he's like nah it's nothing we can't do it and if i had a holocross cloak and then of course under the giant pulls out this giant cloak and he's like like this one he's like why didn't you list that with the assets if only i had a wheelbarrow he's like where did you put that albino like So, so they formulate a plan and they decide they're going to like put Fezzik in the wheelbarrow with the Holocaust cloak and set him on fire. And he comes and they do that. And
Castle Gate Chaos
01:20:16
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they're, and he goes like pushing. Yeah, like barely because I mean, you know, it's Andre the Giant, you're trying to lift in this wheelbarrow and you've got ah
01:20:28
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carry Elwis on your back like you're not going to move very fast. And there's Andre the Giant, Fessig. I am the Dwendt Pywent Wabats. There will be no survivors. Oh my god, I love that part.
01:20:48
Speaker
oh i will not be dead but soon you will be dead like it is such a good part and all of the brute squad that are at the castle gate are like split i'm out yeah like for their lives they're done and then the one like chief of security dude is like Uh, you can't go in there and they're like, give me the key. And he's like, what key? I don't have a key. And they're like, that one right there that you're holding. Oh, this key. Yeah, it's like, oh, this one. Break his arm. Oh, I mean, this key. So they let it, they,
Hurried Marriage Ceremony
01:21:24
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he they get into the castle and
01:21:27
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Like, they can hear the commotion in the chapel where Buttercup is marrying Humfording. They can hear the commotion. And we, I don't remember the name of the bishop, that actor, but he is like, Maui. Maui. And this is in the book. It's in the book. Maui is what wings us together today.
01:21:51
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marriage, ah we said arrangementman a a dweem within a dweem. And all like we're hearing the like, you know, stand your ground from the outside, like we can hear the commotion. And so Prince Helpernig is like, speed it up, speed it up, let's go. And this is in the book and he's like, okay, Bishop, sir, could you, can you get to the end, please? And of course, he's in
Inigo's Revenge on Count Rugen
01:22:14
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the book, he's like deaf and has a speech impediment. So he's like,
01:22:18
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the one love um he's like no come on can we speed it like let's go man and man man and wife so they man and wife they run and count rugen runs to figure out what's going on and uh an ego like catch his eyes with him and is like, hello. And the Count Rugen is like, nah, get him and sends like the goons to like, and he just like knocks out the goons like boom, boom, boom, one, two, three, four, it like done. And Count Rugen is like, oh, and then turns around and bolts. We like not today, Satan like out. So wait, this next part is one of my favorite parts.
01:22:59
Speaker
Whenever he chases after the count, and he's trying to get in the door, because the count like runs to a door and like locks it, right? Right. And he goes trying to get into the door, and he's like, Fessig, Fessig, I can't get in. I can't get in. And then Fessig's like, well, I can't leave like Wesley here, because like Wesley can't even stand, because he's still half dead. Mostly dead. Yeah.
01:23:21
Speaker
And so he's like, I can't get it. I can't get it. And he's like, keep trying to bang in the door. He's like, Lily like hopping up in the air to bang into the door. So Fezzik Lily puts his arms puts Wesley's arms into one of like the suit armor. Yeah, the suit of armor and like hangs in there and then runs.
01:23:40
Speaker
you go so but And this is in the book. i Oh my gosh, I love that part. I just felt the stress of an ego, him trying to get into the door and him yelling at his friend who can barge through. and It was just so funny. It was hilarious.
01:24:00
Speaker
And this is, again, the best parts of the book are in the are the movie. and like If the book is the abridged version of S. Morgenstern's tale, then the movie is the abridged version of this book, and it is perfect.
01:24:18
Speaker
so Inigo runs after Count Rugan and he's gonna, you know, hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father, prepared to die. And he's like chasing and he's kind of start to fight. But then we cut to like Fezzik looking around the hallway, like where did Wesley go? Where did the man in black go? Because he's disappeared. And then we cut back to Count Rugan. And this is where like everything just like cuts to all these scenes. So I'm gonna try to basically Inigo fights with Count Rugan. Hold on, I want to need this. Inigo
Buttercup and Wesley's Reunion
01:24:52
Speaker
fights with the Count Rugan and keeps saying, you know, like Count Rugan stabs him in the gut and Inigo thinks he's like, this might be over, but then like all the training, all of the masters that he learned from are in his head telling him like, no, you need to stop the wound, but you don't get to give up now.
01:25:11
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and so he like stuffs his hand into his shirt to like stop the bleeding into the wound and continues to fight and Count Rugen is like shocked that this dude just got up and is still fighting and he's starting to like fall backwards and Inigo is doing his you know, hello, my name is Inigo Montoya you killed my father prepare to die and count and like stabs Count Rugen in the shoulder and And then stabs him in the other shoulder and then like says, you know, promise me money, you know, anything that you want. Promise me all my dreams. Like anything that you i could ask for. get You know, promise me anything that I want. Use anything that you want. he goes I want my father back, you son of a bitch. And this is the part where I'm going to cry. I love this talk that in real life, Mandy Patinkin's father had died about 10 years before.
01:26:04
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and he was very very close to his father and somewhere in his head he thought and he tells the story that somewhere in his head he kind of felt like if he could take this part if he could win if he could get Count Rugen he could get a piece of his father back and anytime I hear anybody talk about that story I just like because it's a moving part of the movie anyways it anybody who's lost someone that they're super close to like that knows that deep pain, that deep hurt and that desire to like, I would do anything, anything. And to know that in that moment, Mandy Patinkin was thinking about his father when he said those words. It just breaks me every time. So Count Rugen is dead. Inigo is badly injured, but he runs out of the room to go and try to regroup with everybody. We find
Happy Ending Escape
01:27:02
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Wesley,
01:27:03
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lying in bed it while Buttercup is trying to kill herself. Well, right before Buttercup walks in, she is talking to like, the king or you know, like, the king and queen. Yeah, yeah Prince Humperdix father, senile king. And so like, she gives him a kiss on the cheek. And she's like, I'm gonna go kill myself now. Last time I'll see you. And then he's like, okay. And then yeah you and then he's like, she just kissed me on the cheek. Yeah.
01:27:34
Speaker
And she's just like, oh, he like she's like devastated. He's like, oh, he doesn't even care. Okay, cool. Cool. So she goes into the bedroom into the prince's suite. She finds a dagger. She's gonna kill herself. But there's Wesley on the bed. And he says, there's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world would be a pity to destroy those.
01:27:54
Speaker
And she, Wesley, as she jumps on him, and he's like, gently. And she's like, why would I have to be gentle? And he's like, gently. like ah And then she's like, I got married, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. And he's like, but did you say I do? And she's like, no. And he's like, no, no, don't go. Wouldn't you agree, your highness. And there's the prince at the door. And he's all like, I'm going to kill you. And he's like, no, to the pain. And they're like, what? And so he basically like says like,
01:28:23
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I'm going to stand up and I'm going to destroy you, but in a way that leaves you mutilated, but still alive. So you have to live with your shame for the rest of your life. And Prince Humperdink is basically like, I don't like that idea. And Wes is like, sit down and she's going to tie you up. And so she goes to tie him up and an ego comes to the door, like finds them and And Wesley starts to like stand up and get up and he's all like, oh, help him. He he needs help. And Buttercup's like, why does he need help? Well, he's been mostly dead all day. And you know, so like, but Prince Edwarding is tied up at this point. They're all together and now they need to leave and they go to the window because Fezzik's out there yelling, hey lady. hey And so they all come to the window and there's Fezzik out there with four beautiful white horses and they jump out the window. Fezzik catches them. They get on the horses. They ride away.
01:29:19
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happily ever after. And
Grandfather's Story Conclusion
01:29:21
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then we flash to the grandpa reading to Fred Savage and, and Fred Savage is like, well, if they're, you know, that, that was it. That just ends. And he was like, well, it's a kissing part. You don't want to hear that. And he was like, no, it's okay. You can do it. And so he says, you know, if all the kisses in all the world are five greatest, this one blew them all the way. And then that was beautiful, whatever. But then,
01:29:47
Speaker
Grandpa gets up to go and says, you need to rest, you're sick or whatever. And says you know Fred Savage says, you can come back tomorrow if you want. And the grandpa says, as you wish. And then the end. That's that's my favorite part because like that was perfect. So yeah, thoughts, ladies? Love it.
01:30:10
Speaker
Love it all. Love it. Love it. Love it. Legit, if we hadn't got the narrator breaking in every other freaking moment in the book, it definitely would have been a five for me. The movie is a five. Oh, totally. Totally. It really would have. It killed it for me. There were quite a few times where the story was building, building, building. Why are you trying to ruin the vibe? You're ruining the vibe. Yeah.
01:30:37
Speaker
Like you're bringing the vibe down here. But the movie's a straight five. The book is, I think, worth it. Yeah, totally
Casting a Remake
01:30:45
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agree. But yeah, that brings us to a question of the episode, which isn't really a question. It's just something fun that I wanted to do after watching The World Kitchen again on YouTube last night. I call it the the quote-unquote remake, the air quotes remake. I thought to myself, if they remade the Princess Bride, what would it be now, right? Like how would we cast it? So let's talk about our Dreamcast. I want to start because I have one that I don't know if you guys thought I said i the bishop or the clergyman, whoever he was, I thought I wanted earlier today. And I think that he's just obvious. My Dreamcast for the clergyman would be Adam Sandler.
01:31:35
Speaker
That'd be good. That would be good. I have for him, I put because I saw someone say this and I can't get this out of my head, but someone said Will Ferrell. Oh, okay. And I thought that was a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one.
01:31:53
Speaker
I picked Matt Barry. He plays Laszlo in what we do in the shadows and he does the funniest accents. Okay. Okay. Yep. I get that. I don't have these written down in any particular order, but like I don't have anybody for Count Rugen. I don't have anybody written down for that. Okay. So for him, I did Adam Driver.
01:32:20
Speaker
Oh, okay, I like that. So for Count Rugen, I have Adam Driver. And for Humper Dick, I have Daniel Radcliffe, because I think that would be a really funny combination. Because I don't know if you've seen The Lost City.
01:32:39
Speaker
which is has Sandra Bullock, Channing Tatum, and it's about like a romance author and all this stuff. And it has
Casting Suggestions for Leads
01:32:47
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Daniel Radcliffe as like an evil or like a bad guy. And he's really funny in it. And I see him as that character being Humperdink in this. And if you see that movie, you'll see that as his character. But also yeah for the count,
01:33:07
Speaker
This is going to sound really weird, but I was thinking of Evil Anne Hathaway from The Witches, too. Like if you did like something really weird with it. Yes. I made Anne Hathaway like how she's like had this like evil type character. like Absolutely. least to her That's what I was thinking too. Who do you guys have for?
01:33:32
Speaker
for Buttercup and Wesley. Because I didn't, I didn't, I couldn't think of anybody for Wesley really, because like, I don't watch a lot of newer stuff. And I feel like you would need a fresher face. So I don't know a lot of fresher faces. Lindsey, you go. I chose Timothee Chalamet. Okay, I have him, but I have him from somebody else. Oh, that's funny.
01:33:59
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have
Casting for Miracle Max and Valerie
01:34:00
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for Wesley for Wesley okay I have right if I butcher this sorry about that reggae John Page Uh, he plays Simon in Bridgerton because you've ever seen Dungeons and Dragons movie. Yes. Yeah. He plays this one character and he has the dry humor for this movie. That's perfect for it. And he has like the swordsmanship, everything. He's good. He would be perfect Wesley. And I will die on that Hill for my buttercup. I have.
01:34:36
Speaker
It was really hard to pick a buttercup. Honestly, I just picked somebody random. I said Elle Fanning. That would actually be cute. Yeah, that's not bad. That would be cute. I picked Megan Fox. Okay. Interesting. Because I think that she could pull off the dumb. Right. Robin Wright could not pull off dumb buttercup. She just couldn't. She's not there. But I think Megan Fox could.
01:35:06
Speaker
OK. Florence Pugh. I almost Florence I almost picked Florence Pugh. She's so good. I like her. Oh, who is? I can't. Oh, I'm not going to be able to think of her name. She played.
01:35:22
Speaker
Enola Holmes and and Seven in yeah and Seven in what's it called? Stranger Things. um Millie Bobby Brown. Millie Bobby Brown would make a good buttercup.
01:35:37
Speaker
Yeah, I can see that. So for Miracle Max and Valerie, I just have those at the top. First of all, we could just go with Billy Crystal and Carol Kane again. Yeah, true, true. They were great. But I have two other options for Miracle Max, both of which I think would be excellent. Okay. Jack Black. Okay. And Wallace Shawn, who played Vincini.
01:36:05
Speaker
would make an
Casting for Humperdinck and Rugen
01:36:06
Speaker
excellent miracle max yeah okay okay what do you guys have i went with i have two as well martin short o or bill hater yeah i see it okay okay I don't have anybody for for Valerie other than Carole Kane, because honestly, she just did it so good. All right, what you got? What you got? Yeah, you got Lindsay. Catherine O'Hara. Or Maya Rudolph. Okay, Maya Rudolph would be excellent. That's a good one. All right, what you got, Carrie? Okay, so I only have one for each of them.
01:36:50
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So but for Miracle Maxx and Valerie, I did Melissa McCarthy and her husband. Oh, yes. That would be so good. Oh, ah what's his face and what's her face? Oh, what a crap.
01:37:06
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the guy Nick Offerman and his wife. Yes. Yes. How I said what's her face and what's his face? and you I love you guys so much. I was thinking of them in Umbrella Academy. Oh, they would be so perfect. They would they would be good too. Lindsay, did you have a Humperdink and rugen I did, yeah. Okay, wait, what is yours for those? Because I didn't... My Count Rugen, I went with Tom Hiddleston. Okay, okay. And then for my... I just, I love him. Who doesn't? For my Prince Humperdink, I went with Nicholas Holt. Okay, I was trying to fit him somewhere. I was trying to. I feel like, I feel like he's too cute to be him.
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youth That's fair. Like I would like him too much. That's fair. Yeah. So I didn't have anybody for Rugen, but for Prince Humperdink, I have what is, I don't, I don't, it could go either way. I have him for two different ones. I would like to see Fred Savage in the remake as an adult. Yeah. Yeah. So I think he could either be Prince Humperdink and have a ah larger part, or he could be the grandpa, but not our grandpa, just the dad reading to his son. Yeah, I have for the grandfather, I had Mandy. Yeah. Oh, that would be so perfect. That would be so cute. I would cry. I'm gonna cry. shit you you You guys have to know I love Mandy Patinkin so much because he's such a wholesome human being. like
Casting for Inigo and Fezzik
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Okay, what did you have for the grandfather? I went with Tom Hanks.
01:38:51
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Okay, that would be good too. Yeah, that would be a good one. what Oh, okay. So three of the three, Inigo, Fezzik, Sini. So Inigo, I have Chris Pine. For Fezzik, I have Dave Batista.
01:39:10
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I did that too. It's so obvious. He's so perfect. And he did play Fezzik in the world's kitchen. And you know what? I made this list before I watched that. Really? That was so funny. I made this list before I watched that. I watched that right before we recorded this. So well, and then my Vizzini is Patton Oswalt.
01:39:42
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is i just I think that's so perfect. Yeah. Okay, Lindsay. For my Inigo, I chose Diego Luna, who was also in the World Kitchen thing. He did play Inigo in there. I had a backup, but he's also in the World Kitchen thing. Was that right? Pedro Pascal. That was mine. That was mine.
01:40:05
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I considered Pedro Pascal, but i was like that's just I felt like you guys were going to pick that. I'm going to pick anybody else. and I ah love him. Well, I only picked Chris Pine as an ego because I have seen him in fencing type positions before in like different movies and stuff. Not that he was particularly amazing, but he is a hot.
01:40:30
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and B, Star Trek, and C, I just love him, so why not? All right, who does that leave? From my physique though, I had two because I looked at heights and I saw that Dave Bautista is only like six foot four. so i Only six foot four. So I went with Winston Duke, who's six foot five. He is in Black Panther.
01:40:58
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Okay, so I feel like he would be like a really good giant because he's just there you go. There you go. I have for
Finishing Casting Suggestions
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Vasini. I have this one's gonna be weird. I have Timothy Chalamet for that because if you see him on his SNL skits, he's so funny. He is hilarious. And I feel like he would be good. It would be like a young one. But still, I think it could be good. It could work.
01:41:26
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yeah It could definitely work. Who do you have, Crystal? That's all I have, I think. Patton Oswalt was my vicinity. I think that's all I've got. Yeah. I didn't i didn't cast the the grandson because legit, like, anything. Any kid. Yeah. Any kid. So I think that wraps us up. Say, my vicinity. Oh, you didn't know what it was about? Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I went with John Mulaney. Ooh, that would be good.
01:41:52
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Okay. Okay. I get it. And I did pick a grandson. I picked the guy or the kid from Young Sheldon, Ian Armand. That would be good. Yeah, that would be good. Yeah. Okay. Now, are you sure you're done now? I'm done. Wrap it up. We're done. Okay. well All right. I think that wraps us up, folks. I do want to give a big shout out to Liz in Arizona and her book club. Thank you so much for following along with us on Blue Sky.
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