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Experiencing the Soul’s Signature with Bea Rubli
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In this heart-opening episode of The Choice to Grow, Scott Schwenk is joined by mystic and transformational guide Bea Rubli for an unforgettable conversation that bridges the seen and unseen realms. Bea shares her lifelong journey from resisting her gifts as a medium to embracing a life of deep energetic service and soul remembrance. Together, Scott and Bea explore the collapse of the old matrix of fear and separation, the return of mystical knowing, and how each of us can reconnect with our own unique soul signature—our fractal of the divine.
Bea Rubli – Mystic, Medium, Transformational Guide
For three decades, Bea Rubli has dedicated her life to the extraordinary practice of channeling beings and streams of consciousness. As a world-class medium, she shares these powerful energies with individuals seeking deeper connection and transformation. Her gift allows her to guide people through profound transformational processes that reconnect them with their unique potentials and soul signatures.
Bea expresses deep gratitude for the opportunity to support others through channelings, workshops, and specialized training programs. Her work focuses on helping individuals rediscover their innate gifts and allowing their uniqueness to shine with full power and magic. She considers it a privilege to witness the transformation, radiance, and mystical brilliance that awakens within her clients—describing each journey as a wondrous and magical experience.
Her thirty years of experience have established her as a respected voice in spiritual channeling and transformational guidance, touching countless lives through her compassionate and insightful approach to spiritual development.
Scott Schwenk - Master Coach, Spiritual Teacher, Culture Architect
Scott’s teachings, courses and private mentoring guide leaders, seekers and creatives to explore their deepest selves in service of thriving on all levels of being, both individually and relationally.
Host and creator of the podcast The Choice To Grow, Scott is known for his hugely popular courses and workshops with OneCommune.com, Younity.com, Wanderlust Festivals, and Unplug Meditation, Scott has been catalyzing the inner evolution of others for decades: helping them to grow, transform obstacles into opportunities, and find Love within.
Scott spent several years living and studying in a meditation monastery which introduced him to the core body of Tantric meditation traditions which continue to flow through each of his teachings. Scott continues to study and teach from two key Tantric lineage streams.
Apprenticeships in leadership development, meditation and philosophy training, shadow work/shadow resolution and spiritual awakening are all part of Scott’s development into the thought-leader that he is today. He continues to refine his offerings studying and practicing with key innovators at the leading edges of human development.
Scott’s teachings support the entire person to not only progressively recognize, stabilize and embody our inextricable oneness with the source of creation (Waking Up), but also to resolve the wounds of the past (Cleaning Up), continually expand our capacities for wider and more inclusive perspectives on any moment (Growing Up) and creatively and joyfully participate and collaborate with all of life as a loving thriving human being (Showing Up).
You can receive a free guided meditation and explore Scott’s courses, workshops, retreats, training and master coaching at https://scottschwenk.com and can find him on Instagram @thescottschwenk.
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Transcript
Introduction to 'The Choice to Grow' Podcast
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Welcome to The Choice to Grow. I'm Scott Schwenk. Through these dialogues, we'll explore fresh perspectives and discover practical tools for navigating a thriving life that adds value wherever we are.
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I'll introduce you to innovators and creators from across our world who embody what it means to cultivate growing as a way of life. Let's prepare together.
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Take a deep breath in.
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Hold the breath briefly as you soften your shoulders and soften the soles of your feet and palms of your hands. Then exhale like you're releasing tension and setting down a heavy burden from every cell.
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Ah. Now let's dive in.
Bea Hruble's Spiritual Awakening
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Welcome back everybody to The Choice to Grow. I am delighted to share a dialogue with you, with my next guest, our next guest, Bea Hruble.
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Bea Hruble is German by birth, Swiss German, and she lives in France. And I'm just going to share a little bit about this extraordinary being because the title that the world gives to Bea is not inclusive enough of what all is here It's so much more, but she's been called a medium.
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She grew up in Ara'al with two sisters and in the early years, she didn't even notice how different she was. But at home, there was space for it. And she shares that it wasn't until later as she got older that she painfully realized, how many of us can relate, that the worlds and dimensions she carried within her, her deep connection to the spiritual realms, the beings, the visions in her dreams, and her love for animals didn't seem to have relevance in this world.
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It was a harsh shock. And so she decided she wanted nothing more to do with these dimensions as they had led her into a deep crisis during her youth. So at this point, her inner guidance seems to step aside.
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She focuses entirely on the physical world. ah Completes education, worked in interior design, managed an art gallery. Art and form had always been a passion of beya's.
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And during years, she still, though, as happened for many of us, encountered people, often mediums and healers, who told her that she had a gift that she could channel. So she let their words just kind of pass by, not paying them much attention.
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And even in the magical moments that deeply touched Bea, the recurring visions, she just kept ignoring them. I'm thinking of so many of the saints I've read their lives where this was the case in different times.
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I had firmly decided i did not want to be medium. For me, this was the end of the matter. So that led her, her fate led her to London, where she was supposed to furnish an apartment for a business partner, for her father, and even had the opportunity to work for a company there.
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Wow, she thought, this is my chance. I can finally live a normal life. But when she arrived at the beautiful house on Belsize Park Gardens with its three apartments, she was greeted by a friendly man who asked her what she brought what had brought her to London.
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So she explained her tasks, but then it happened again. This is not your task. That simple sentence changed everything. Her stay in London turned out completely different from what she'd planned.
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and she owes infinite gratitude to Eckhart Tolle because his guidance that day, this is the man she shared the apartment with, steered her back onto her true path. Still, it took a while before she truly was ready to follow her in her calling.
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So she started attending evening gatherings in Basel, Switzerland, immersed herself in spiritual and mediumistic training, and even traveled to England to further develop her abilities. Another pivotal moment in her life was her encounter with Lucius Werthmuller.
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Unfortunately, he left this world far too soon, but through him, her path became clearer than ever before.
Channeling and Personal Connection with Bea
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So for the past 30 years, Bea has been channeling beings and streams of consciousness, sharing these powerful energies with people and guiding them through profound transformational processes.
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So this is where I'll share a little bit about my experience with Bea. I met Bea in Basel, Switzerland myself. I was there filming a course for unity.com and teaching at a live festival that we were both at.
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The second I took a look at Bea, it was like familiar, like family. There wasn't much to say because I didn't know what to say. I just wanted to hang out with her and eat cookies.
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And that's what we did most of the weekend when we weren't speaking. on this stage was eat cookies, drink tea and share space together. But in that sharing, so much was going on.
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So much is going on. I've had a session with Bea. I've chatted privately as friends with Bea and she's the same off stage as she is on stage.
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A wonderful, very simple person with a huge heart, profound intellect, through whom incredible consciousness flows for the benefit of beings.
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She's funny. She doesn't tolerate bullshit. She's an extraordinary woman, mother, and friend.
Ego, Heart Wisdom, and Human Collaboration
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So with that, with great honor, great joy, I'm so happy to invite you to listen together as we dialogue together and we see what wants to emerge in this dialogue about how human beings might collaborate how we might open more to the heart's wisdom, how we might let go of some of these habitual tendencies to grasp and over effort in life and shut down the magic and the joy and the freedom.
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So be a welcome. Hi, wow, you said almost everything just by the three sentences at last. The thing you spoke, this is really what makes me so happy.
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These words, you know, you just shared like the heart and, you know, that we really need to let go of these structures and like we are all so fixed in this,
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ego space, you know, we've been put in and it's like a matrix. We're actually still in and now we should really, you know, go beyond all these limitations. So thank you for these words.
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So happy, so happy. oh You see, we're on the same, like, we are aligned as families. Yes. And it's big, yep, energies we share.
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And I want to make a note to you listeners. Um, they, made a mention to me in the beginning that sometimes the words may not flow so effortlessly through her mouth in English. She speaks many languages and yet sometimes it's just, this is the way it is.
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And I want to say this again and again in each episode, regardless of the language of the speaker, the real meal, the real opportunity is behind in between the words.
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So I'm inviting you to elongate your spine, deepen your breath, and listen like you're spending time with a sunset or a sunrise. You're feeling it rather than trying to think it.
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And you can re-listen because there's an energetic flow here that's much stronger than anything Bea or I could create, but it is here.
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So you can listen in such a way playfully and just imagine you're sensing sensing this energy flow, sensing the words rather than trying to figure out anything.
Understanding Mediumship and Consciousness
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Yes. You're very welcome, yes, to share the flow of energy, the power, the wisdom, because as you said, it's not the words, they just carry the energy.
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So, and if I'm not channeling, sometimes languages are a little bit slow, so I try to be half channeling half just here with you.
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Tell us a little bit for those who might not be familiar or not be properly educated where it goes well, your understanding of what a medium is in the way that it moves through you.
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And some of us who might not even understand that we might have some of those capacities ourselves. What would you would you help us to understand that? Yes, I mean medium is just also another like word to um for me. It's like, you know, that I've been always open. Like I had all the portals and the beings talking and communicating with me.
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So there was a conscious flow, and know, of information. And it's actually the transmission of information, energy, healing.
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So to bring in these dimensions you know into the material world because we are here so to incorporate the energy is the most important and to me this is the space I am all the time you know that the feeling of being a conscious being into a material embodied world so I think we shouldn't even use this word anymore because you are the most multidimensional being, you know, everybody is.
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It's just all the limitations that we think this is away or far away or outside of your possibility, you know, to communicate because we are so in our brain and mind and all the things, we're stucked, if you want.
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And and Being a medium is it's nothing to me, it's like a natural stage of consciousness. Everybody is in it. If he opens to it and is not feared and scared, then things happen beyond.
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It seems to be beyond, but it's not beyond, it's just there as well. In the world, in the dreams, in the dreams everywhere in the nature, you know, you wake up in nature, this is the most amazing experience you can have, you know, to just see the living bird, not only the name of the bird, but the energy of a tree, a plant, an animal, a human being, you know, in its light, in its pureness.
Experiencing Energy Beyond Words
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So, to me I'm imagining looking at the hand, like each listener maybe to look at your hand and drop the words about your hand and the descriptions of your hand. What is it like to just, as Bea is pointing at, actually be with the experience of the hand?
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Or the house plant or the sun outside the window. What is it to just be without a reference point?
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and you would just um if you have put your hands on your knees and you just breathe and after a while you feel the energy not the hand even if you don't move the hand you feel the movement you know of the energy and then you you just step into this space of energy and of awareness ah it's all about awareness if you want it's all about Are you aware?
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Do you want to be aware? Because you are you are always a conscious you know being. It's not that you actually step into something. you It's like an awakening. or you know it's it's so People always think they have an aim to to grow in their conscious whatever awareness.
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But actually it's there. you know It's not that you have to go all this pathway. Of course you have because you don't know the language, you don't know the energy because you don't learn it any you know in normal society at the moment.
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I hope this will change, of course. I've heard and I'm wondering what you what your experience is. I've heard that like approximately around every 6,000 years on this planet there's a great forgetting and that that we the majority of people knew that there was energy everywhere and that we were multidimensional and how to use this energy without misusing these energies. Is this something that you're familiar with? Does this seem like accurate?
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What else can you share about this? Yes, I'm very familiar with this because also work with this frequency maybe you heard all about. We actually were in other frequencies lifetimes, incarnations, whatever, timelines, whatever you want to call it.
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So there were were a lot of like times where it wasn't really the forgetting, it was also the the power, you know? There was a power so suppressing like the mystical energies, you know? So they withdraw, so that seemed like you would forget it.
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But actually, it was not forgetting, but covered with with all the power systems. um They didn't want, you know, to have the mystical, the magic anymore, and also the power of people on themselves.
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Because then you can't navigate anybody. To navigate, you need separation, you need fear, you need all this stuff. Then people get very, you know, like this, you know, they're bent, they...
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They are in fear or or whatever, struggling, but they don't have the tools. and And now I think we are really, really, to me, it's so important to know that I think this timeline is going to collapse.
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And I'm all happy about this. What does that mean, a collapse of a timeline? What is that? What would we see or feel or experience in the collapse of a timeline?
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I do feel that it's like a timeline which was mostly there first, that people would actually really step into a material world. You know, it was a long timeline where we actually really came down to earth and body and being very material.
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So then it was a little bit overdone with the ego stuff, you know, chaham and and in this space there was like created they created the matrix with structures and um limitations and we started to think the science, everything which is wonderful, it's not that, it's not wonderful but the aim was only on the material side then, you know, how you can earn money, being rich, status, being beautiful, it was everything in the outside, you know,
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It wasn't anymore connected with your insights. It was all it all aimed and know to expand the material world in yourself. and and so you And this is going to crash because we see what we did to the earth, what we did to ourself. um People are longing you know to to read to be reconnected.
Shifting Towards a Spiritually Evolved State
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but they they feel like um they have to struggle because at the very moment, lots of people feel kind of lost because the orientation is actually changing while and the timeline is collapsing.
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And so we shift into another timeline. And the other thing is that all the timelines will merge together. So I think people are really like now,
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There is a lot of synchronicity, is it the word? Synchronicity, yeah. Synchronicity.
00:17:02
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Yes. Yes, that's the word. And there is a lot of... um So let's just continue. to but i want to ask another question about these timelines, Beta. The timelines, there's so there's multiple timelines.
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We have more multiple timelines. Yeah. What is this multiple, like we, most of us weren't brought up in under, in the West, at least we think, oh, it's, it's, you know, it's 9am and then that's going to become 930am and then 10am is going to happen. And it's always going to be like this and time moves in one direction.
00:17:40
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Help us to, to connect, help us to see what you see. about multiple timelines? How do we begin to experience or recognize it beyond just thinking thoughts about multiple timelines?
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Yes. You see, I do think that every like timeline um actually is like continuous, you know but not as we see it in in a line, but it's like a vortex as well.
00:18:10
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And so there is many timelines, even timelines you experience, they don't break down, you know, they're still somewhere. And to me, it's like these old timelines and especially what has been suppressed by, by as I said, the power.
00:18:29
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It's like you could see that like, um what what it's like strings, you know, and they come together and they pull themselves together in in the right way.
00:18:40
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It's not right and false, but like that everything comes together and then the separation, you know, you start to merge. No, it's not merging. It's like, you know, dissolving.
00:18:56
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So you would actually feel that the the matrix now is collapsing. While it is collapsing, it's like you would could be reconnected to all the timelines.
00:19:11
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every timeline. Would you understand this? I begin to understand this and then I find myself wondering if I'm connected to all the timelines, yes do I experience them all at the same time or is something more one timeline is in the foreground of my experience while others are in the background, but I can sense them all?
00:19:32
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Is it like this? Yes. And it's so interesting because you are evolving, you know, and so at certain times certain timelines become relevant and others step back.
00:19:47
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So it's not like in a line, it's just that they're all like together and and then they they would actually come up. Then it's time for you to have this information or to remember other energy fields you carry with you so that you actually not overwhelmed.
00:20:11
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You know, it's kind of very clever that things are popping up just on time. You know, you're so conscious that it just happens the way it should happen for you.
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So don't worry. It's just fine.
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Hmm.
00:20:35
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Of course, we have to actually. um It's not a thing you can, by your mind or or intellectual possibilities, it's not there. It's the experience. You have to to let go of what you think about time.
00:20:52
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When you step into this kind of timelines, it's timelines, but at the same time, it's like No beginning, no end.
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You know, it's like endless.
Unique Spiritual Expressions of Consciousness
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In the East, there's all these years, decades, you know centuries of teachings. ah Particularly if we look at like the Zen program and some of the Buddhist programs, the end of the path is emptiness and no self.
00:21:29
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If we look at the Sufi path, it's It's a unity and and its and love is the end of the path. And so we're seeing as we learn more about so many paths that different paths don't all lead to the same location or the same experience, that there are different realizations.
00:21:49
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Yes. What would you help us to understand about that? To me, it's like, you know, like consciousness itself actually needs a form, needs expression, needs truth, if you want.
00:22:06
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So because this is infinite, so also the creation of forms in all these wonderful concepts in pathways are just like coming out of the source consciousness and this needs to become a form.
00:22:25
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so that we can see a past and go a pathway and then you you feel yourself, oh, I feel so connected to Buddhism or but whatever, i don't want to prefer one of these wonderful you know concepts and and the writings and the books and the meditations. And so you just feel presence actually at the very moment which pathway you go and what wants to be shared you know through you with the world so isn't it wonderful that we can share all these different kinds of pathway and where it could go you know there is now we can't actually come to the point if you would talk about emptiness emptiness we can feel that
00:23:23
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Emptiness then is a stage of consciousness which of course is just amazing. And then it looks to express itself. you know Because in emptiness the consciousness itself awakes.
00:23:39
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As soon it awakes, in our dimension it needs to be expressed, it needs a form. And the form can go and be reconstructed, but it needs a form.
00:23:57
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It needs a voice, it needs an art, you know, whatever. You can sing, you can dance, you it's in movements, it's everywhere.
00:24:08
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But it needs a form, it needs expression, you know. When I look at myself, air quotes myself, I see two things at this stage in my own journey. I see and taste that there's a historical sense of self, which is based on memory, many of which I'll say i think are distorted for most of us. bringing that sense that most people consider what they call me. This is my me. This is who I am. I like these things. I don't like these things.
00:24:47
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I vote this way. I don't vote that way. I like boats. Maybe I don't like airplanes like this. So I'm very more and more aware as the, as the years go by of that as it's arising.
00:25:00
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And then also of what seems to be unbroken, unbroken, Awareness that is timeless and boundless. Yes. And impersonal.
00:25:13
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And what's come to my attention recently is the the the importance of recognizing what some people might call soul, that there is something individuated that's not just the absolute whole prior to any forms. And it's not the conditioned historical sense of self.
00:25:36
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What could you tell us about your experience of recognizing what is individual but is not the historical conditioned sense of self?
00:25:47
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Yes. I think we that's so um interesting because I think that's just what's going on. You know, we we would ah talk about in individuality, but this has been so much identity.
00:26:03
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you You would identify identify yourself and then it goes to the ego. You know, it's like there more. And now it's like the individuality which becomes free, you know.
00:26:17
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and And to me, I had this experience when I was five, no, I was four, four and a half, and it was winter. So I walked into the kindergarten and it was snowing, these wonderful snowflakes, you know.
00:26:32
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And I saw them on my hand. that just came on my hand. And it was this very moment I i knew so deeply without my, you know, I didn't think about it, kind of consciously thinking.
00:26:48
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But it was this deep knowing, I need to remember my signature. I need, you know, I need to know the fractal I am in this lifetime so to go down to the snow, to Every, to the old snow, you know, like the cover, the cover of snow or what's the name of it?
00:27:11
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The snowflake falls down and then you don't see the snowflake anymore, you know? It melts, when it melts. It melts with all the other snowflakes and that's community.
00:27:22
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So I knew, oh, I want to go to this community, but I have to remember, you know, my fractal. because otherwise i I'm not reconnected, I don't know what to do here or to share, even though I didn't want it, as you said, then later on I thought nobody's interested in what I feel, because this was so important, this remembering that you actually bring something very, very unique to this world, to share for you, to heal, to evolve, to whatever, and then
00:28:01
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this fractal goes back to your soul if you want because it's part of the soul it's like a fractal you actually decided you know from your higher dimensions that this form is like with this potential and everything which you want to bring into this world so and and so you you are like many many dimensions And then finally you could say we are all one, but that's like a very long, long, long way.
00:28:38
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So for those who are new to the term fractal, like the fractal is like, to me, it's like the true self or, you know, it's connected to the higher self and it's reconnected to like the soul and it's reconnected to all the dimensions and finally to the source.
00:28:59
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You know, where everything flows in and and creates all this magic
Individual Uniqueness and Universal Potential
00:29:06
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here. So fractal, if I remember, is is a part that also contains all the possibilities of the whole. Is that right?
00:29:15
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Yes. So even though we are i have I have something that's individuated and very unique, that's not my historical Scott self, It includes that, but it's so much more. Even though I have this uniqueness, I also have all the possible blueprints of all of creation in my uniqueness.
00:29:33
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Yes. So does this mean that I have all the powers that creation has in my beingness? Yes, you have. Yes. And can anyone access these the complete fullness of these powers or there protections as we're learning how to be appropriate with them?
00:29:52
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There are some like protections and i always, um the name like like guardians, you know, of portals, we really, and before we always call it in initiations, you know, initiations, and I still think there are initiations.
00:30:14
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So some of the power is protected. But as it has always been, sometimes we call it like magic and there is the white and the other one a little bit darker so I mean there is still like energies as we know it here like light and shadow and and so this is also in other dimensions so finally it's also i mean I think there are people they have access and then it's like what you're doing with it it's so important
00:30:55
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What do you feel? And therefore, it's so important that we go to this heart intelligence, you know, because by heart, you wouldn't be cruel. You wouldn't want have wars and um all these things, all these conflicts.
00:31:11
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You would see the beauty and you would be so, i you know, i'm I'm so happy and and grateful to to be here on this wonderful planet.
00:31:24
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So I'd love if people would really just, you know, feel it, not only think it and disciplined and and and put it into a power and then using it for themselves.
00:31:40
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It's not about you to use it. It's about to share, you know? it's It's about sharing, finally. yeah Some of the teachers talk about that awakening seems to happen in their observation in three distinct kind of locations, if you will, ah at the level of head, at the level of heart and at the level of gut.
00:32:05
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And some of them are suggesting like teachers like Adi Shanti or Locke Kelly or Almas that many people's ah and stronger initial awakenings tend to be at the level of mind And so there's not yet this feeling come online, this ability to connect to love that's not about my preferences, but about its inclusive love.
00:32:31
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what What could you say about the awakening process and really more quickly activating or becoming in contact with the the the love that moves through the heart that's bigger than my preferences?
00:32:44
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Yeah. Yes. Of course, you're right. I mean, it's the guts. So to to me, that's also like the sun, the solar system. So you have to reconnect also to the solar system, you know, like to the sun we know.
00:33:00
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I mean, this is so important. You have to know your sun, you know. You have to find out there. And there in the guts, you have a lot of um things going on, conditions, you know, like patterns,
00:33:17
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and they they form your thoughts then, you know, you you put yourself into a grid of whatever happens to yourself in your personal life, and and then, you know, the guilt and the fear or or the self selfish stuff or whatever, you know, and this is still important because you're also working through the collectives, so the um ancestors, you know, this is also a big grid because we're all also ancestors,
00:33:47
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ancestors, you know, you're going to be one in a couple of years maybe and and you so you are already, you know, and you are some in the future as well. So this is like um a healing process.
00:34:02
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You have to really clear this space, you know, and then you have to clear the space here, you know, because the third eye is so important for your vision, to clear the vision, to have the inspiration and to see it clear, you know, and to, it's not connected to, it's really the mind, you know, it's not your thinking, it's thinking through you, you know, it's building forms, visions, and and beings, whatever, and you remember the vision, you also remember the vision for your whatever in the next 4,000 years, you know, you you already create everything.
00:34:44
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And then to me also what's so important is like here, the throat. Throat is so important because this is like the sharing your truth connected to your voice.
00:34:57
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Your voice is connected to all the other incarnations. To me, it's like to remember you have to to sound and you have to sing your sound.
00:35:09
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Your sound then. connects you to your signature and your signature connects to all. remember You remember by singing, you know? do Do we each have a sound that I could actually like play on a piano? Like maybe mine is high C and yours is middle D. Is it like this or is it something different?
00:35:29
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It is. it's The difference is that you have to do it yourself because you would find the frequency.
00:35:40
Speaker
You know, your frequency, whatever. Maybe then you can play it on a piano, on a guitar, on a trumpet, drum, whatever. But it's in yourself, so you have to create it yourself.
00:35:53
Speaker
Maybe by listening you hear, oh, this feels so close to my frequency. and But you have your own frequencies.
00:36:04
Speaker
You have your own... I never saw... energy field which is similar to another one. Really? No, never. Never.
00:36:16
Speaker
They're all different. Different in shapes, colors, structures. They're all different. You could never find one which is the same. Never.
00:36:29
Speaker
Wow.
Sharing Spiritual Gifts for Collective Potential
00:36:31
Speaker
Yes. This is really about after 30 years of, you know, ah watching or yeah being part of ah helping um a little bit, it's really amazing.
00:36:44
Speaker
No, you wouldn't find any similar. Which is the thing which we could learn is if we share our potentials, you know, we increase our own potential and it's like big sound.
00:37:00
Speaker
it's like a big sound because you ah we all carry all these portals, if we share them, so I could actually share my clairvoyance with you, and if if you're there, you are clever and you you will be clairvoyant.
00:37:18
Speaker
This is to come, that we share also, like the gifts, we share them so we can, ah like, Otherwise you have all every lifetime, you know, you learn this, this and and isn't that, but this will actually end, you know, we can invite this and we can share it.
00:37:41
Speaker
It sounds like you're suggesting that we are, we have no limits on what we can learn that we can somehow, uh, like, like download yeah from the universe yeah about anything.
00:37:56
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Yes. About anything. How does a person begin who's listening? How do they how does somebody go, you know, had mystical experience as a child. um Maybe I've done a little meditation. Maybe I've read some books. Maybe I've read the new earth, you know, and like this or the untethered soul. But like, what do I do next to open to these capacities in ah in a way that I can handle that doesn't, you know, take me out of my life situation?
00:38:26
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too quickly. Yes, of course, it's important. And of course, also, it's important that you know your personality, you need to work, you can't, if I say this, I say yes, that's to come.
00:38:38
Speaker
But we have still to go like step by step, if you want, you know, we have to, the process, you cannot just jump over it, it wouldn't. Right.
00:38:51
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So, right. yeah Do know your body. you you know You have to know your system, you have to know your personality, you know have to know where you have your leaks of whatever leaks, you know.
00:39:06
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You have to know your pain body, for example. Actually, you have to know who, you know, you come here and you're like connected.
00:39:21
Speaker
And after a while, You know, you have this patent influences everything and then you're somebody um by influences, you know?
00:39:33
Speaker
So you have to know all about but did what to you but you can learn, what is processing in you in this lifetime because you also make a decision to pop up in in a family, you know?
00:39:51
Speaker
Even sometimes it's very very sad what happens to people really i mean when i i say this i don't wanna miss to say that some people really have a such ah ah a life story which makes me all sad and and i could really cry it's it's really you know there are things human do to each other which is so not understandable if
00:40:22
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you we will be connected. so the The teacher i work with ah more recently, Donny Epstein, who founded Network Chiropractic that's now called Network Spinal and other energetic disciplines around the world, talks about what he calls first-tier energetics and next-tier energetics. In the in the the first tier, we require pain to crack us open and that the people he says he sees who have the most ability to help others have the most intense experiences as children that crack this open, but that when we actually learn how to open to second tier energetics, we don't require pain in order to open further.
00:41:08
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What might you say from what you've observed with people about all this? Yes, think also this is happening now and still happening because like a crisis or pain opens, you know,
00:41:20
Speaker
it it just opens because that's, you feel pain, you know? So a crisis or a separation, a death, an illness is really like a portal.
00:41:33
Speaker
It opens you. I had this experience. I was very, very ill when I was 11 years old. So I had a near-death experience by this time.
00:41:44
Speaker
And after this, everything expanded even more, you know? I was already yes communicating with all the beings and and the nature and the beings there.
00:41:58
Speaker
But after this near-death experience, it was like even more like energy. i embodied even more of this, which I didn't want.
00:42:10
Speaker
But this was a major crisis. It was a major crisis. you know I was 11 and I wasn't happy to die, but I knew I'm going to die. You know, I woke up in the morning and I knew this is my last day, so I'm going to die.
00:42:25
Speaker
And I wasn't so happy, you know. I thought, I'm here 11 years, so I want to stay. But still, it happened, but they brought me back. And so I was like in the other world for for, you know, this is no time because the experience you have and you're really out of body and your body is really gone for a while.
00:42:48
Speaker
This is amazing and expanding and you bring it back and it's a crisis. But I think this is not needed now in future, that we only can actually evolve by pain and crisis.
00:43:04
Speaker
But yes, that's how it used to be, because otherwise we are very comfortable. Everything is fine. We go into a deep sleep, 80 years and then we die.
00:43:16
Speaker
yeah It's a little bit like this with people. Because we are being separated and then we are in this, I'd call it like ego matrix, you know.
00:43:31
Speaker
And then you you settle, well, you have the money, you're good looking, you're healthy. So this is fine. And it should be like this, of course, you know, it shouldn't be.
00:43:45
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different But i I think because we created so and material world, it could be only the crisis and the pain. You know, that you would rethink or start to reflect or start to just be alive.
00:44:07
Speaker
One of the things I'm feeling in our dialogue is over and over, even though we're not saying the word over and over, it got said early on. The importance of connecting with the energetic, the essential energetic of love.
00:44:21
Speaker
Yes. And i I feel from having coached people for a long time that many people don't know what love is still. They know what it feels like to be wanted or hugged or given physical gifts, but to actually sense the energetic signature of love it seems really like maybe the most important thing we could actually learn to do that will expedite our spiritual awakening, our ability to collaborate, our ability to recognize everything.
00:44:57
Speaker
Yes, of course, because then you are also beyond like comparison, like, you know, separate, like thinking, this is mine, this is my house, this is my, this is my, whatever, you know.
00:45:12
Speaker
and But I think we are far away from this stage of really what love is. We are processing towards this love, we would call love.
00:45:25
Speaker
A lot of people talk about love and life and it's not there. It's just the words and the energy is just not there. you know I think it's sometimes it's, we process as I say, it's,
00:45:41
Speaker
I think love at this state we are in will burn you down in three minutes. Or maybe sooner. I don't think you could actually embody the body we have now.
00:45:56
Speaker
You can really go very close, but this is such a strong energy. When I came out on this near-death experience, I was kind of there.
00:46:09
Speaker
for my feeling for a moment. But that burned for days, you know. Burned, it was like, oh I can't take this one.
00:46:21
Speaker
Did it physically feel like burning? Physically? I think it's physically not possible at the very moment to really bring this energy. We have, the body needs to change a little bit.
00:46:37
Speaker
Are there things that we can do on our own in our daily habits that help to change the body to be able to be with more of this love? Or is it something that has to happen in the collective field that we're not and able to really i do something?
Daily Practice of Inviting Love and Light
00:46:52
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I think we have to do something. We just thought, I think we have to invite um this energy every day. Really, it's also like to invite, you know, the the light into our cells slowly, slowly, slowly.
00:47:11
Speaker
So also like DNA, everything is going to change. You know, it's like also there we have like grits on the DNA, which covers the remembering to this stage of love.
00:47:24
Speaker
And then this is actually also not connected then to the cells. So we are also like by meditating, walking in the nature, you know,
00:47:37
Speaker
opening ah for delightful energies. Actually, we can invite, you know, if I say slowly, it doesn't mean like by time, it's gentle more maybe, you know.
00:47:52
Speaker
Be gentle with it. Don't force it, you know, because it's not like an energy you can force, nor that love wants to be forced.
00:48:04
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be We know this maybe in this... what some people understand in a relationship, they want to force love on somebody. And we all know we don't like that.
00:48:16
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You know, we want to be free and share love and, and, but not being imposed, you know, like I love you. So you have to love me back, you know?
00:48:27
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yeah so And is that even love? Is that kind of thing even love or is that more preferences? I think that's what people understand still, but I think in a larger sight, it's the same. Love is just everything and nothing we can imagine.
00:48:49
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But I think it's important to go this pathway, to long for, longing for this energy, you know. Every day, every day, in invite, invite this energy.
00:49:04
Speaker
Talk about the power of longing that just stood out. The power of longing. Tell us your experience of the working with the power of longing. Longing is really like the path to reconnect.
00:49:18
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Longing is also like a possibility to remember because in the longing, you're connected. In the longing, you're in you participate on this love, you know, part of this great, great energy, which is everywhere.
00:49:38
Speaker
It's the only energy which is everywhere and is shared with everybody in every form who has appeared here and in all dimensions.
00:49:53
Speaker
It's the only nourishment, you know. It's the only energy which actually brings life. you know We can talk this is this and cell and DNA, but it's all created by this only one energy source and this is love.
00:50:10
Speaker
But I think what we call love is far away from the energy, which maybe carries the same name, but it's not the same energy.
00:50:23
Speaker
Yeah, like when I say... It's downgraded love. you know That's why I said love and light. It's sometimes so downgraded. you know It's such a power and the longing. You can feel it in the longing also sometimes like the distance.
00:50:38
Speaker
You know it's it's not... It's like a distance between you and where you are at the same time that it needs another breath, a deep breath to...
00:50:52
Speaker
in Hail the energy, you know, bring it into your body. Breathe this love into your body and in every cell, even if you don't understand it. And the best is just experience it.
00:51:06
Speaker
Don't think too much about it, you know. This is it, though. i As I observed myself even here sitting together with you and all of the listeners, and we are, I just want to say this to the listeners,
00:51:23
Speaker
You know, when you're listening to these podcasts, it may seem like you're listening at what I call a later now moment, but it's still always and ever now. So the way you listen actually is drawing out wisdom, clarity, and love through whomever we're dialoguing with.
00:51:42
Speaker
So your listening is actually actively shaping this podcast, even though you think it's at a later timeline. um And what I'm really present to is The quieter my ordinary mind becomes, the more obvious this more of this love is like it as Bay is saying, it's not a thought. If I go to thought words about my experience, it starts to close down fullness of the experience. Whereas if I'm just here and my front of my body is soft.
00:52:21
Speaker
as I face Bea on the screen and my breath just flowing and and there's nowhere to get to, there's this sense of a vibration through the body that doesn't end at the body. It ripples out through the plants and the trees and the house and the floorboards and the earth.
00:52:41
Speaker
And it's not possible to tell where it begins or ends. Yes. Yes. It's like, Sometimes we call it maybe like a flow.
00:52:53
Speaker
To me, sometimes it's like a melting and like everything is just melting and there is in every form, you know, you, as you said, you would find this energy, feel it.
00:53:08
Speaker
And it's like you would melt, you become like an ocean, you know, yourself like this, no beginning, no end. And you lose yourself Like, you just know you are in this form and through this form and in this form and in this expression is this great, great, great energy.
00:53:33
Speaker
but I'm remembering something that Ram Dass was visiting. He was new to his guru, Niam Kauroli Baba Maharaji, Indian guru, powerful Indian guru.
00:53:44
Speaker
And At one point, Maharaji turns to Ram Dass and he says, Ram Dass, you should meditate the way Jesus meditated. And Ram Dass says, well, how did Jesus meditate? And Maharaji says, and chokes me up every time I say he said, he lost himself in love.
00:54:03
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Yes. He lost himself in love. Yes. I think that's the same for me. I would then say, I melt into it, you know, so that's a bit the same, you know, it's just,
00:54:16
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You become the energy and you don't put a frame on it because this energy doesn't have a frame.
00:54:29
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Never had. when i When I do this, do, when this happens, this melting, this dissolving into love, it's There's also a simultaneous feeling of an upsurge, like an energy that moves up the body at the same time as there's an expansion and a softening of the edges.
00:54:49
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And in this experience, there's not a sense of anything's missing or wrong. There's not a sense that some, I have to go get a lover or call anybody. The love is complete.
00:55:05
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Yes, it's complete and it's, you would not put a value or it's nothing like that. It's beyond all this what we know or we sometimes start to think over or um as you say, it's to me it's also beyond words, you know, yeah it's like you we have this word or this expression love and it's it beyond every expression you could actually find for this wonderful energy, we approach.
00:55:42
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To me, it's still like an approaching because you melt in if it comes back or you go come back also a little bit into, because you're here also, you have your senses and this is great, you know.
00:55:57
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So you are also part of this material world, the nature, the earth. Then, sometimes it e
00:56:09
Speaker
it it loosens its power you could say because you're in your story you're in your process and then it starts again that you maybe start to put the value or you know that you see you but this is not no going or this is not happening like this and I think that's why we should invite, so this energy is the most amazing guide, you know, it guides you out of this emptiness, and and as you say, you lose yourself, means also, you're not in your whatever matrix, I always call it like this, because I like this bubble thing, that
00:57:00
Speaker
then you go back into your bubble and and and then you are in your bubble again you know and then you it's not the forgetting but then you have your emotions thought forms you have your body energy calling you back and and uh it's it's by meditation to dive in and then try to bring us much back into like your daily life and then because we are in a life in a time structure where people look for themselves you know we actually also forgot how the sharing you know the sharing should be
00:57:47
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oh money sharing, you know, house sharing, form sharing, everything, you know, but we are still there, this is my, my house, my partner, my, my dog, my garden, whatever, you know, but this is just not possible because this is a form and form will actually end or change its form and, but we're still like in this timeline and that's my wish that it can,
00:58:19
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collaborate, we collapse so we can collaborate in another way of being together on this world.
Collaborative Sharing of Talents
00:58:28
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With your talents. You see, somebody is a musician, but he doesn't know how to earn money.
00:58:34
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But why he shouldn't have money? Because he's just a musician and and he does this wonderful music. But somebody else is very good in making money. You know, he has a talent and he knows it.
00:58:47
Speaker
So he should do it. And then we share everything, you know. So then to me, it could also then be that this hierarchy, you know, can actually break down as well because we have all these hierarchies and who is best and who is this and, you know, everything is like this.
00:59:08
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And to my experience, and I have this since childhood that this will like become like another movement but we are only at the beginning because, okay, you share everything, maybe tomorrow you have nothing because nobody else will would share something with you, you know?
00:59:31
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We are still in this stage of we would like to share, but then we fear, okay, if I give now all the money to this person, and and but then how I can survive myself, you know, at the end of the month.
00:59:48
Speaker
We don't trust now but we start i think we are at the beginning as we see people communities it starts but it's still like the old matrix you have to look after yourself and how you will survive and and stuff like this and this is not not in this space of the love we just talked about you know this is nothing to do with this love what i'm hearing is i'm listening uh having this sense that more and more of us, especially those of you who are who are listening still and really interested in what's happening here, are having experiences of love, are having experience of greater awareness and energy bigger than our memory.
01:00:37
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and And then what happens is that energy comes into the body, into the subtle energy structures of our individuality,
01:00:48
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And it helps to reveal where we still have tension patterns that distort what we see and experience. So I experienced all this love and then i don't realize what's happening.
01:01:00
Speaker
And I get stimulated hour later to um worry that my boyfriend is not interested in me any longer or that my money is going to go away and I have to put extra effort in.
01:01:13
Speaker
And I think it's valuable to point out like, that what's happening isn't that love has failed or that creative energy has failed or we've lost access. But what's happened is I've just re-identified with the matrix. I've re-identified with my personal memory of my history.
01:01:34
Speaker
And so then I'm only limited because I'm identified yeah in that way, not because I'm actually held into a limitation by life. I'm only limited by the ways in which I'm focusing my attention.
01:01:51
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Yeah. And ah this happens so quickly. It's like so quickly, you know, that people are back. I sometimes see it when they are in great energies, we share meditation, and then they go to the restaurant.
01:02:08
Speaker
and then the waitress is not coming or they have to wait a little bit or maybe the food is not as perfect and or they forgot something and they're back complaining and shouting at somebody and oh this is my place and just a moment before the energy was so open everybody was sharing and um being in this deep stage of consciousness and then they come out and everything breaks into this old system of themselves.
01:02:45
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You know? She didn't see me. i was first by this table has been served before me. i was waiting already 10 minutes.
01:02:55
Speaker
You know? There's a little thing but to me it's of importance as you say you just fall back in what you and also in your you know, leaks or um what you think you should have, you know, there is always like a wanting in it, you know, and then you you fall back into this stage and then you don't connect it because you still think, yeah, but this is good, I want to have it, you know, it's for me.
01:03:27
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and Right. And also then you think, and also some of the spiritual pathways and the coachings, they go very much to this side, you know, like, Yes, you should have and every wish has to be fulfilled.
01:03:40
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But if it's not the highest harmony, you know, sometimes you think this is my harmony. But no, this is your matrix harmony. It doesn't work with love, you know?
01:03:53
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Yeah, it's it's an illusion. serve It's the illusion. And the illusion is then the separation ah also. You know, the illusion of this ego field and what you think you could have and should have and deserve.
01:04:09
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This is the separation. and This is the old timeline, because actually this has been like constructed, if you want, you know.
01:04:20
Speaker
Yeah. Now we're sitting in this one and it's then you have to do meditation and it's like something which is still, what's the work if you... Divided? Yes, you know it's it's like divided.
01:04:38
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you know Here you have your life and your desires and whatever you want, and then you go to the spiritual, to the other world and the meditation, and then it's still not really connected.
01:04:52
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it's It's still like two worlds for a lot of people. They really go into this deep experience then they wake up in this other life. You know, it's like, or the dream, great dreams, lucid dreams.
01:05:09
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Nothing is manifesting in this world and from these dreams. You know, it's like we could not carry the energy as I feel the multidimensional being in yourself is able, like,
01:05:26
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to carry you know the energy just into the stage you needed to have it even comes if you cut your carrots you know but you have to cut your carrots and you can't be far away because you don't have a you have one of it is gone then you know right right it's about shifting shifting everything into the highest harmony and it's the highest harmonies very often not what you think about your harmony you know it's it's like your harmony is off as you said in this limitation and it's still longing because then you have all everything and still there is no harmony as all you do another thing and still
01:06:19
Speaker
You have another wish and it doesn't it's still not there, still not there. Because you're not in this highest harmony of yourself and um and then it's still the longing and separation and all this.
Balancing Love and Firmness in Challenges
01:06:36
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This is the impulse behind the title of the podcast, The Choice to Grow. no matter whom I'm dialoguing with and what the subject matter seems to be, the interest, the the calling that that I'm saying yes to is to help people to to have a different context for life.
01:06:59
Speaker
I don't know when it happened, but the context for my life is the choice to grow, to use as and do I forget sometimes? Yes, but to use all the moments to grow. And I recently had the experience of after a car accident of massive fraud from the people who were fixing the car, billing the insurance company thousands of dollars for things they did not do that ended up my car is still not fixed.
01:07:25
Speaker
And it got found out and I had to be very ferocious without closing my heart with the owner of the shop to make him send a bank check of every penny back to the insurance company. I was terrified.
01:07:38
Speaker
And what was different for me in this experience of previous experiences of difficulty was I honestly never lost my experience of love for this person, but I didn't let that stop me from doing the right thing and being very fierce and saying, if you don't do this, I'm going to go to the Bureau of Automotive Repair, which is terrifying in this country to them because they lose their license.
01:08:05
Speaker
I say this because I get questions when I'm teaching about, oh, well, does love mean no boundaries and people are going to harm me? Does love mean I don't ever speak up? No, actually, love tells me how to speak up.
01:08:19
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Love tells me what to say and where to go.
01:08:24
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So important. the words you just shared. Very important because it's also very often people say, yeah, but I am selfless.
01:08:36
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And they say, you shouldn't be, you know. It's important that you express and sometimes it's been needed to, as you said, put the limitation to say, no, it's not working.
01:08:52
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And it's still not like hatred, you know, it's not nothing to do with that. But sometimes you have to speak out very clearly and and and say what you have to say. This is important because we're talking, I think, in part about the difference between bound energy and unbound energy.
01:09:13
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Yes. Like unbound energy is the creative power that creates worlds. And in bound energy, we have, you know, examples we don't love, like i have I have some insecurity about myself. That's a form of bound energy.
01:09:27
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But also having a garden that I promise to take care of is another form of bound energy that's healthy. So what could you say about knowing when it's appropriate to bind energy? Because a lot of spiritual teachings out there seem to mislead people into believing I lose my identity, nothing belonged to me, like I don't bind anything, there's no there's no boundaries anywhere, which I don't find is healthy or helpful or skillful.
Setting Boundaries in Spiritual Practice
01:09:58
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No, I think as you said, deep in yourself you know that there is no limitation, no boundaries, but we are in a material world, so we evolve also by the boundaries, you know, and you have ah if you have your garden, it's about you, you know, to look for the plants and watering and whatever.
01:10:25
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and um And also that actually to speak your truth, to bring it into the world also is like, as you said, we we need the boundaries also to evolve or to to bring something in the process, you know,
01:10:46
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it's like it's in a way no limitations and in a way it's an illusion of boundaries but it's needed you know so that we can proceed and um I ah also felt very often with people then who want themselves to have no boundaries um they have the most because then they they fall into subconscious, and actually they have a lot of boundaries, and so it's nice if you know about, and you're even happy about this, you can say, no, this is good for me, and so you stay out, or you have to change this, because I don't want to be in this energy, whatever, you know, um to me it feels deeply right when you do it,
01:11:41
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it's still for the community, it's still for you and everybody. you know If the boundaries becomes like you, I have to write to say this tree has to go because I don't want the shadow. you know Then you have to think, is it really this or but well what is missing here?
01:12:05
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you know so if you think about if you actually ah to do this kind, you you want to be right, you want to be the one who is right.
01:12:16
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And it's nothing to do with what is actually for everybody now a good thing. And of course, this fraud you taught, this you put in the balance, you know.
01:12:27
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So it's also about balancing the boundary. You know, it's still about you and the us and the community, the world, the universe, the boundaries also for this, to balance, to evolve, to learn, to be in a process, you find out.
01:12:48
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But you you to me, it's like such a strong energy when it's really be needed to do it. it's It's very deep in myself.
01:13:01
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Still, it's not.
01:13:04
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it's It's something deeper. You just know you have to do it even if you don't like it. For example, I don't like to do this, what you said. To me, it's if I have to do a thing like this, I don't like it.
01:13:19
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you know yeah Because I don't understand why somebody could do this at the first. I think, how a person can can do this? How can he sleep, this person? I couldn't sleep.
01:13:33
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I couldn't, I don't know, i couldn't stay one minute. With doing a thing like that, it would blow me. away or I don't know you know it would be so painful so yeah yeah I think ah people who are sensitive or sensible at least or they would actually really feel if they want to impose something because of themselves really like the ego and not the bounded energy this is different to me or if this is important to learn and to share and some some sometimes to
01:14:11
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put a limit to say no. Say that's fine, but this is not how it works. As you have with your car, you know, this is not going to work.
01:14:24
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And then you have to stand for it and say, this is not going to work. And I've had to stand firm because things are not happening in my timeframe. You know, the accident in itself was six months ago.
01:14:39
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The check arrived at the insurance place in Washington, D.C. two weeks ago today, but it still hasn't been posted. So I've had to stay connected to the knowing.
01:14:50
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i don't know how, but things are working out and stay available to any part I need to play, whether it's a phone call, a text, or simply to sit down and breathe and relax. So we're coming towards the end of our time, and there's two questions I'd love to ask One I ask every guest and one I will ask you. So I'm going to ask the one that I ask every guest first.
01:15:10
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So there's a famous quote, at least to me it's famous, that I i share over the years with my students from Shinryo Suzuki Roshi, the Japanese Zen master who opened the Zen Center of San Francisco in the 1960s.
01:15:24
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And he would say, death is certain, the time is not. What is the most important thing? So to you, Béa Hublé,
01:15:35
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what is the most important thing?
01:15:39
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I think everything we talk already talked about at the very moment. I think there is never like the most important thing because I think it's like every moment you can invite the next important thing.
01:15:55
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So the most important thing maybe is to really um be connected within yourself and um share it and and and then there's another most important thing to me is nature and animals so that we really really look after our beautiful earth and the living beings and not only the human beings we are part of a living earth a living planet
01:16:30
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So to respect every living being. b I have a feeling you've just answered a question that our listeners are thinking about love. How do I develop more love? I feel like you've just said it in an indirect way that spending time in nature with real care and compassion for the animal and the nature experience to really be generous with nature and protective of nature will actually open the feeling tone of love and make it more recognizable.
01:17:03
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Yes. Yes. Because sometimes to me, like the human beings, they think themselves really very intelligent.
01:17:15
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But then I feel is like very stupid intelligence. You know, there is an intelligence, an universal intelligence. But what we do, this is not.
01:17:27
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It's mostly stupid at the very moment. So yeah to really go into another intelligence and share and go into nature, you know, look at these beautiful forms.
Embracing Sensitivity and Personal Truth
01:17:41
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Now, as we speak, we're going... here in France, so it's springtime, so the first leaves comes out, like the first flowers colors, the animals shows up, the birds start to sing.
01:17:57
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Isn't that like, you know, love in its best version?
01:18:05
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Yes. So as you as you sense into all the those who are listening, who are hungry to grow and the space we are sharing, you and I, is there anything that you sense wants to be articulated?
01:18:25
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i do feel that the sensitivity and I think if you're listening or the listeners here, they are because otherwise they wouldn't listen that long to this talk or dialogue.
01:18:40
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Also to invite this and sensitivity first not to think that they are not part of this world as I did experience it of course as well and most of the people still do because you always have to change world in society you can't just talk about energies and how you feel and because nobody ah sometimes they don't respond you feel the energy the atmosphere and and they would still say I'm fine I'm super everything is fine I'm nice
01:19:12
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And you feel, oh no, this is not even there. So to trust also your impulses, you know to start trust what you feel, what you see.
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Even people would say, I don't see it, I don't feel it. Don't put it away. Just start to listen to your body, to your voice, to your feelings, to whatever comes into your thoughts, is either what is inspiring you,
01:19:42
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Maybe you do a movement, you sing, you write it down, you talk with somebody. Start to invite this truth. And don't think you because you need it. Really, it's kind of an emergent call now, you know, because it's it's not, it's really like now, it has to brought in, you know.
01:20:09
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to in in the body, in the material. well So as you said, that we can actually rise, you know? and And so yes, it's wonderful to be sensitive. It's wonderful wonderful to have all these intense sensations, you know?
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Don't put it away. Don't feel bad about it. Don't feel like overwhelming or people or... overwhelming or people or Just be yourself and be happy that you have this gift and that you you feel that you're a consciousness in this wonderful body for a little while.
01:20:52
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So, yes. And for those, our podcast is in English and not translated. For those who are English speaking, what are our opportunities to work with you?
01:21:06
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Oh, I do like... I do workshops also in English. Of course, I do the channelings in English. So if I really can't really go deeper, my English is much better normally because I can go into the English flow. um Yes, so yes, I do share workshops and and channelings.
01:21:33
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And mean we'll put all that in the show notes for you guys to to check out all of Bea's links and whatnot and explore and trust the right timing.
01:21:44
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Trust the right timing. Bea, it is always a joy to spend time with you. i love spending time with you. always feel like I could go longer and longer.
01:21:56
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i never get bored or tired. meet and hang out a little bit and maybe and I would really love that we can at some point and sometime also do a workshop or you know some work together and invite people to join and yeah that'd be well I would love that I'm a yes to that and I can feel the energy is already moving so listeners stay tuned for when and where that will happen because it will and
01:22:28
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Possibly more than once, most likely. So with great joy, with great love and a big hug to you, Bea, thank you for your time, your love, for all the things you've lived through, things that nobody will ever know about that allowed you to be the person through whom so much love and clarity can come through for the willing.
01:22:50
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And thank you for sharing time together here in this way.
01:22:56
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Thank you so much. I don't have any words. It was wonderful. And thank you for your love and you your wonderful words you share and your wonderful energy.
01:23:10
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I have to say, it's just, yeah, I'm grateful too. I'm very happy. Wonderful. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And with great love, everybody, may this material help you in ways that you can't even imagine.
01:23:26
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and ways that you can. And we'll get together again and again in these dialogues. Thank you for choosing to listen to The Choice to Grow. Please like, share widely with all of your friends.
01:23:38
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Bye for now.
01:23:41
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Thanks for listening. Can't wait to join you in the next episode.